You have no idea how bummed I was that Giselle never got a song where she went back and forth between her Giselle princess voice and the wicked stepmother voice... because my girl Amy would have ATE the music number up! 😤
End of the original - stops singing and dancing spontaneously in less than a week 10 years later - starts singing and dancing spontaneously in the middle of a dangerous construction zone 🥴
@@Anthony-fu6clwell the thing is they explain that she is still a character from Andalasia and she still has some magic from there which makes her still the lovable Giselle we got to watch. But I digress, yeah I just wished we saw her get a little more realistic. The whole point of the first movie was it is ok to have a little fantasy and realism on your life. It makes it more unpredictable and exiting.
@@roxanne_ So you're saying she simply didn't want to duet with Edward in the first movie when he arrived to save her? And why didn't the construction workers join in the song if her magic had that effect in the first movie? I just watched the director of the first film's commentary and he said Giselle explicitly sings less throughout the movie as she becomes more real. So 10 years later she's still not real...?
I get what you mean, I thought maybe Giselle was feeling depressed and homesick so she was trying to make herself feel happy by singing. (I hope that makes sense).
I do have one question though, during the first song “Even more Enchanted”, I feel that only Morgan and Robert noticed that she was singing, and only a few background characters noticed she was singing too. •I guess Morgan and Robert are just used to Giselle singing, but I was surprised to see that no one in Monroeville was confused in the first song of the movie on why she was singing in the real world.
I would've loved it if the conflict between Giselle and Morgan was about Giselle being obsessed with fitting in in the real world and Morgan being obsessed with living the fairy tale life her mother always talked about. that way, if Morgan made the wish, that would make her the main character. I would've also liked it if they made Robert evil along with Giselle.
imo the whole "wicked stepmother" plot falls apart when in the original movie, Giselle already told Morgan that not all stepmothers were evil and that she knew plenty in Andalasia who were kind and loving just like biological mothers when Morgan was worried about Nancy becoming her stepmother, throughout the whole movie I kept thinking about that plot hole
But don't forget Prince Edward had a evil stepmother himself, so Andalasia rules play to whatever trope fits the fairy tale. Giselle was clearly a nice stepmother, but when she wished for a fairy tale life, it gave her the role as the evil stepmother in the fairy tale. This is a case of magic gone mad.
@@welcometothemetaverse2523 Was Queen Narissa an evil stepmother tho? Edward is dressed well, fed well, at least enough for Giselle to heard of her being good. Sure he is himbo, but that's less on him being sheltered and more of him being a fairytale character. And she does prefer to avoid tension between her and her stepson when she did poisoned Giselle. At best she's an evil soon-to-be mother-in-law.
To me, it would be WAY funnier if Robert was aware of the change. Imagine his annoyance and frustration at the fact that now HE is the one stranded in a world he doesn't understand or like, at least initially. All the fairytale naiveté concentrated in Giselle now surrounding him, and his arc could mirror Giselle's in the first movie, learning to find happiness in an alien environment. This and, of course, the manny comic situations I can think of.
That would have been way funnier! Could have also involved some physical comedy.....like he keeps trying to resist what's happening to him, but the wish/spell keeps forcing him (physically) to play the hero.
"Wait, why am I suddenly carrying this sword around?" "Can we *please* travel 5 yards without a musical number??" "How on earth am I still okay, after being lit on fire by a freaking dragon???" Robert's cynical commentary was such a funny contrast to the whimsical atmosphere of That's How You Know, and I honestly would've loved to see it revisited in the sequel.
Honestly when I was hearing there was going to be a Enchanted sequel, I was expecting this kind of running gag/humor to show up throughout the movie. That’s would be so great to see Robert’s reaction to be a now fairytale character.
I hated so much that they took the “You are not my real mom” route. One of the biggest subversions in the original movie was that Giselle would become a stepmother, just not an evil one. I found this so refreshing back in the day 😢
I could maybe see a scenario for conflicts sake where Morgan gets upset because Giselle doesn't treat her like a daughter but rather like a friend or sister. Where there's a contrast in how she treats the baby compared to her where she can tell her I need to to be my mom and take this seriously right now. It would have been a small tweak but been a more understandable progression of their relationship. Instead what we got was Giselle basically a perfect mom does noting wrong and Morgan gets annoyed because teenager the motivation isn't there.
Morgan’s “real mom” left her behind so for them to make her character act as if she is not grateful for the mother role Giselle plays in her life is so unfitting for her character.
@@Phia525 It would have been amazing to see Morgan’s bio mom trying to reconnect with her by putting down Giselle parental skills. Like, “how do you expect to mother a teen when you act like a child?”
I think a major question that I was asking right from the beginning was, what exactly happened to Giselle's "Andalasian Fashions" business? Because it is NEVER mentioned in Disenchanted once!
Omg that is literally what I said. Like why didn't they just move to a bigger apartment? Their entire life was in New York. It even showed that in disenchanted with the commute the dad had to make.
It was so strange that they didn’t choose to make the child older to explore the stepsister dynamic. The wand thing could still be explained as a birthday gift for a certain age or something.
That’s a good idea, that can make Morgan feel more jealous of her sister Sophia since when Morgan was little she liked fairytales. And now her little sister is receiving something from the fairytale world. (I hope that makes sense.)
@@kyokugo6460 That’s a good idea, that can make Morgan feel more jealous of her sister Sophia since when Morgan was little she liked fairytales. And now her little sister is receiving something from the fairytale world. (I hope that makes sense).. •I really like your idea of referencing The Disney Junior show of Sofia the First.
Mm....I feel it's too easy to make the teen a brat thing, it's been done millions of times in these stories, I'm glad Morgan was conflicted but still a good person before and after the wish, it shows that Robert and Giselle raised her with good natured, even if she's a teenager, she never came off as bratty cuz that would've made her annoying to truly care about Going the Belle/Cinderella route was the better way since she didn't totally see Giselle as a mom yet, it's part of why Giselle turned into a stepmom in the first place None of this works if you don't understand each of their sides leading to their roles after the wish
It was obvious the writers didn't know what to do with Robert and it was painful to watch. Edward had a similar problem, but since he's a secondary character it wasn't as distracting.
The town STARTING as so cartoony was my number one issue with why the whole thing felt off. Thanks for being one of the few who pointed it out. It tied into my issue with giselle being unreasonably selfish and regressive in this movie.
Also robert wasn’t even a character and my other main issue was how both him and morgan weren’t themselves for 80% of the movie. Their personalities and agency were erased with the spell, which made their journeys uninteresting. I’m also naturally sad that my second Disney OTP had no meaningful interactions.
@@jill9978 Morgan and Robert having their memories erased for most of the film was my biggest gripe. Sure, Morgan gets hers back when she gets to Andalasia, but by then we're well on our way to the climax. There's no emotional stakes to Giselle progressively turning evil, barely anyone noticed or cared in the new world besides Pip. So now you have Amy Adams carrying the emotional weight of the movie on her back because everyone else involved are Disney caricatures. It would have been much better if Morgan and Robert stayed the same, or at least be conscious of their new reality.
@@jill9978 I felt that both Morgan and Robert did have some elements of their original personality in there, with Morgan still feeling like an outsider and Robert trying to prove himself as somebody extraordinary during his midlife crisis. But just like with Morgan we only see doses of her life in high school, that her life in the fairy tale is also just as vague with her desires, her enemies, etc.. It would have been better if we got more detail with her school life, maybe if Morgan went back and forth from having her normal mind and her fairy tale mind like Giselle was with the stepmother role, getting sucked into the fairy tale world but also questioning it when things aren't working out. Heck, Robert trying to be heroic and then halfway questioning himself like his original more cynical self in the first movie, it'd be hilarious having him realize he's getting an over his head with things like dragon is an ogres and stuff, like "Am I really doing this?" It would have followed up on the commentary of a midlife crisis, giving his scenes more depth and the part where he saves the girl from the collapsing stand and she goes with her family, that would have been the moment he realized that his life does have meaning when he's with his family. You can see the look on his face that's what they were going for. But the way they executed, it looks like he's just imitating Prince Edward in just a bunch of random scenes that tie into nothing.
@@Anthony-fu6cl What I find incredibly weird is that when Morgan gets her memory back in Andalasia, she still behaves like her fantasy self. If you look at Love Power, Morgan is still moving her arms like a typical disney princess. That confused me so much while watching it!
Also fairytale/cottage core is so in right now. Like this a niche fashion but I promise there would be some kids as Morgan's school who would think she was cool for what she was wearing, or thought she looked cute.
I liked the base dress, the mini little jacket thing tho clashed, if it had a different pattern it would work just fine, that was the only odd thing about the outfit
I think it would be more interesting that after Giselle became a business women and being from an actual fairy tale, she’d reject the idea. You know instead of having Giselle dress Morgan maybe have the I don’t want you wearing those clothes.
This isn't uncommon, but it was kind of embarrassing how out of touch the writing was with actual teenagers. Like, who actually would realistically say, "haha, she has flowers on her dress" or whatever the line was? I get the other girls were supposed to be the "bullies" and highlight how Morgan didn't fit in, but it's weird how removed the teenage characters were from what teenagers actually do and say, considering the audience for the film would have likely included a significant amount of teenagers and young adults who grew up with the first one.
As someone who graduated hs years ago and is completely out of touch...is this really true? Like I honestly can't wrap my head around that. I've always wanted to wear cottagecore but was afraid of getting bullied for it. It seems kids are less judgemental nowadays.
There's literally a handful of kids in the background who wear cottage core and yet Morgan's supposedly ostracized for wearing a really good looking strawberry dress?
I actually find it weird how, for all the magic the film had (half the film was literally set in a fantastic variation of Monroeville), the first film felt more magical (yet somehow, it was rooted to reality.) I did like the film well enough though.
While that’s probably due to rushed and poorly executed storytelling, I’d like to think it is another illustration of how Giselles regular life is fulfilling and meaningful if she continues to work through the hard times. Reality can be magical if you manage to maintain a healthy mindset like Giselle had in the first movie. She had just forgotten that in the hustle and bustle of the regular responsibilities of “normal” life - most people do and it takes more than hopeful wishing to get back to a happy place.
I feel like some of it is the setting. New York has a magical feeling to it, the city has that vibe that made it perfect for the first movie. New York already feels like a place where anything weird and wonderful can happen, so it was perfect for the setting of people finding out fairytale lands are real. A small town could serve the same purpose of "things turned into a fairytale" but they made the town generic small town. If it was more shrouded in woods, or Morgan learns about local myths like the local "witch" or people disappear on the lake, etc. Something to give the town a "magical" feel to better immerse the change caused by the wish, but they didn't so it's all just like...bland....like the magic is just there
@@Starburst514 very true. Also disenchanted looks so cheap. there is this awful soft filter over everything and the costume design is so boring. the costumes in enchanted feel much more thought out and really add to the magical feel. not to mention the 2D animation is also awful, it’s embarrassing that the 2D animation from 2007 was so much better than what they used over a decade later
I think the first film felt more magical because it was rooted in realty. It's like that saying "if everyone is special then no one is." If everything is magical, then nothing is. We're just bombarded with magic in the sequel to ad nauseam while the first film gave us glimpses.
@@lanadelclown7706 YESSSS! That tooo! It's like they tried to make disenchanted more cartoony or something and that translated into just cheap. I hate the 2D animation so much too 😫
Only thing I liked was seeing 2D animation come back (I love 2D) But TBH I don't think Enchanted needed a sequel. I also feel like it missed the point of the first one with the whole not all step mothers being evil thing
it's not that bad if you throw your braincells out of the window, but ahhh, I just... the missed potential you know! we would've had two great enchanted movies. the sequel is so unforgivably forgetful.
For me, this movie felt like it had no awareness of the first movie, almost like it didn't watch the first movie. It shows itself in little ways. Like why wouldn't giselle, who owned a dress shop in NYC just make morgan new clothes, make her a dress for the ball instead of shopping one. You could still have her destroy it, but it would mean more because giselle made it for her. Why would Robert want to be a dragon slayer, even under the curse. He was kidnapped by a dragon in the first film, I would think he would be terrified of them. My hottest take is I think the "villain" should have been Morgan's birth mother. Maybe she tries to come back into the picture, it would make more sense for giselle to feel self conscious as a "step mother" and they could have shown that your mother figure or family isn't blood.
Also Disenchanted Can Also Count As TERRIBLY Outdated! (And I Don't Mean By Having Old Pop Culture References) This Is A Movie With 2 Villains That DOESN'T Use Or Mention The Villain Team-Up Trope. Heck! There's Even A Scene Where Giselle Says "There Can Only EVER be One Villain! Not Counting Minions, or Pets, or Villains You Don't Know Until It's Too Late." And The "Badder" Sequence & The Duel Scene Don't Hide It At All! Period!
One thing I would say as a fashion stylist is that the costuming in both films have been fairly constant in terms of showing the personality and evolution of the characters. Though I do agree that it was weird that Giselle didn’t just make an outfit for Morgan seeing as how she could make an outfit out of curtains
Well, _let's put it this way:_ _Maybe,for the next little while,Giselle was probably gonna be happily taking over the domestic duties of being a mother for the next little while,and MAYBE since they moved/have a new baby in the house,maybe Giselle was planning to return to the fashion business,but to a smaller scale when her youngest got older AND PROBABLY the old curtains were still unpacked/Giselle was probably waiting for a special occasion to make her step-daughter Morgan a new dress afterwards,if the occasion/time suits it so,of course really..?_ _I mean,THEY JUST moved there,honestly-Still they haven't got time to settle just yet..and again,new baby in the family here,so..?_
Here’s one part of the story I would have done: - made Sophia born as soon as reasonably possible after the first movie - introduce some conflict between Morgan and Sophia - make Sophia make the wish after Giselle tells her a story of Andalasia - Giselle becomes a wicked stepmom - Morgan and Sophia actually maintain their personalities and autonomy - Robert still becomes a sort of bumbling hero though not an exact copy of Edward - Giselle tries to kill Robert because the dad always dies after the stepmom comes in - and the sisters have to solve the problem together. Save their dad. Morgan still has to make the saving wish. Good message about stepsiblings Keeps it to the core cast and gets to a new message that still reflects the message of the first movie
such a clever idea!! it's always frustrating when these big-budget movies can't get tight storytelling down. When there is potential, and it's missed, I almost hate it more than if this movie was 100% awful. So many interesting places this could have gone to talk about the dynamics of a family. (like Encanto, Brave - or honestly most Disney movie style)
it doesn’t make sense to me that Giselle starts to “assimilate” to reality towards the end of the first movie, but 10 years later shes still “andalasian”… if that makes sense lol I think if disenchanted focused more on giselle *losing* her spirit and becoming “newyorky” would have been interesting
I agree! After she had 10 years of life in New York, I'd expect that an ideal version of her would still keep her whimsical personality but also be very grounded and experienced. Yet in this one, she seemed very disconnected from reality and less grounded than in the first. I found myself feeling like her character was obnoxious, while I didn't feel that way in the first. Perhaps old habits die hard, but it felt like shallow character development for her and felt confusing.
I just wish they'd had Giselle become the "wicked stepmother" as a result of her own actions and life wearing her down rather than a clock chiming. Would have been a much more powerful statement about how there's a villain in all of us.
I can’t believe I’m saying this about a movie, but it may have been better with less Maya Rudolph. That way we can focus more on Giselle’s descent into villainy and her attempts to resist her new archetype.
Yep, completely agree. Maya was entertaining with the evil versus evil plot, but the development of Morgan and Giselle's relationship, along with screen time for the other characters suffered.
@@foxroxy86 Yeah, when I think of an actress who can pull off an evil queen, Maya Rudolph is one of my last picks. Don't get me wrong, she's great, but she has too much "mom" energy to make a character like Malvina look convincing in any way. (Nevermind that the "Real World" Malvina didn't even do anything wrong...)
Also, her character, like many others, was really too cartoony, especially for real life. I get it, but... Really? Almost more cartoony than Giselle just landed from Andalasia in the first film 😳
i did theater with the girl who played morgan a few years ago (i was a freshman and she was a senior when we were both in sweet charity and the wedding singer) and its absolutely crazy but so exciting to see someone that i know be a leading role in a disney movie. and she so deserves it! one of the sweetest and most talented people i have met
They probably decreased James Marsden's screentime because he was busy with other projects, such as the Sonic sequel or Dead to Me. Still, it would have be nice to give Edward more to do.
I thought he just stayed behind because we needed Morgan to be "A true Andalusian" for the final wish. And like if he was there he could have just done it.
My first thought when Edward remained in Andalasia was, "Oh, I bet James Marsden was too busy with other gigs." 😂 It didn't feel natural to the plot or the character. It also felt like a reason to include Idina Menzel more and have her sing the generic brand version of Let It Go.
I really wish the movie focused on Morgan and Giselle’s relationship. In the first film, we see Robert show her the real world and Giselle learns to love it. It would’ve been hilarious to see Giselle and Morgan both be the only“conscious” ones after Giselle’s wish. This way the movie could expand on the issues with their relationship and perhaps we could see both of them grow as individuals as they try to get the wand back.
From the trailer it made it seem like Morgan was conscious through the whole thing but I guess they didn’t wanna follow through with that for the fairytale references
I think it would have been funny if Morgan and Robert were both sucked into their fairy tale roles while still being conscious like Giselle when she switches between herself and the evil stepmother role. You can see what they were going for. Like Morgan tries find acceptance in her new environment so her fairytale side sings a song about finding her own happiness and Robert deals with his midlife crisis by being the fairytale hero who slays dragons and ogres. Both would have been a good commentary on their individual problems and would have been funny when they switch back to their more cynical selves when things don't go well.
Also it would have been a very good source of jokes, bc Morgan is hating everything fairytale related Imagine her trying not to sing or follow a dance but having to bc the magic has her do it
LOUDER!! it would be an easy fix to just have Morgan sneak back out and head back to New York when Giselle makes the wish on Monroeville so Morgan wouldn't be affected!
Seems like Disenchanted has a lot of potential. We can see here how the character of Giselle has drastically evolved. Seems like Enchanted will always remain as one Disney's greatest live action movies.
the way they took every speck of ambition from giselle…what feels like her whole personality….like why didn’t she made a single dress? we didn’t see the dress shop she made…we only see her buy her dresses idk it was such a big part of the original movie
Yeah, it was really strange that they didn't say a word about her fashion business or what happened to it. Her character lacked depth. Like, what had she been doing for the last 10 years?
Even though they recast the actress playing Morgan, I like that they had Rachel Covey, AKA the original Morgan, cameo as a girl from Monrolasia who reminds Giselle of the festival. At least there's no hard feelings about the recasting.
@@Kyosumari Rachel Covey played Morgan in the original movie, when she was about nine. Gabriella Baldacchino plays her in the sequel, and she's three years younger than Covey.
Wait, what? Is it not the same girl? I was so excited thinking it was the same little girl grown up after all this time. Regardless of who it is, I think she played Morgan wonderfully and really stood her ground sharing the screen with no less than Amy Adams!!!
My issue is the town already looked too cartoony, instead of more grounded and realistic. Also it would have been a good dynamic for Giselle and Morgan to show how the Disney personality can be out grown for teenagers, and how Giselle needs to adapt her Disney life not suiting children as they age, feeling much more realistic.
I thought it was cute for what it was but ultimately I didn’t truly care for it. However I will say I loved Giselle’s peacock dress and I’ve been singing “Badder” (the only memorable song in my opinion) for the past few days.
they should have made Morgan the one wanting everything to be perfect and make a wish coz she grew up with stories of this actual place that exists that’s magical…also how Morgan was as a kid was very girly and whimsical and then they took that all away…I hate the way they told us what happened in the beginning instead of showing us their life which would have been more interesting
They should have used Cinderella a twist in time as inspiration. Like they didn’t change much of the plot or scenario they stuck to the formula without straying too far from the path
I feel like they could've made it more modern by first not making Morgan a spoiled brat, i get moving isn't the best but her room was so cool and she doesn't have to share with her sister. since she's technically gen z i feel like the other girls would've liked her outfit and become friends with her like that.
I think she was justified in being a little pissed about having to move from a big city to the suburbs during high school years. Specially since the movie didn't give a good reason for that besides "Giselle wanted to". Also, teenagers aren't known for being super racional and understanding. She was giving her best in accepting the situation. For example, she could have hidden that she liked her room just to make Giselle feel bad, but she didn't.
As someone who used to move a lot as a child, I fully understand where she's coming from. Especially if her first move is at that age. Being dragged away from your friends and everything you know is extremely difficult. Her reaction makes sense to me. My most difficult move was when I was 12 too.
Okay so I did watch this movie and immediately after I went into my notes and wrote what could have been a better plot: What if Morgan decided to go to Andelasia instead? Here me out. Keep the baby, have them move to Monroeville, but make it seem like she feels like the black sheep in the family, so she goes back to new york to find the pothole and have her go to Andelasia to live the fairytale life she had always heard Giselle talk about. Giselle and Robert realize what happens and so they try to find her. That way we could see more of the animated world Giselle came from and explore the world she left behind.
Interesting! Though, very similar to The Little Mermaid 2. I also didn’t like the new animation in the sequel. Disney fired most of their original 2D animators.
After being in New York and in business I think I’d be more interesting if Giselle lost her fairy tale touch. Focusing on more practical and being more cynical about fairy tales. Maybe refusing to tell Morgan any fairy tales or consume any type of fairy tale merchandise because your world doesn’t work that way. I mean I’ve known a lot of younger kids who are teenagers still into the Disney fairy tale stuff. I think it would have worked if they went in the opposite direction with Giselle and Morgan.
A much smaller point is that Giselle still breaks into song. When at the end of the first movie she stops singing which is a pointed out by Edward as she's integrated into real life. Disenchanted lacks the overall atmosphere, character quirks/growth, and quality that the first movie has. A nostalgia ride.
Hi! I get what you mean. I thought Giselle was breaking into song was because she was feeling depressed and homesick, so she was trying to cheer herself up. But Morgan said something in the movie like she does it often. So I am a little confused.
I would've preferred it if the Mother/Daughter strain wasn't between Giselle and Morgan, but instead Giselle and Sofia. The time between Enchanted and Disenchanted is actually 15 years, so realistically, Morgan would be in college, and Sofia would be late middle school/early high school. Sofia wasn't in the original, so her having a jaded personality would make FAR more sense than Morgan being one, since she's a new character and can be whatever they want her to be. Maybe instead of Giselle becoming an evil stepmother, she finds out that at the last stroke of 12, when her wish becomes permanent, she's going to die, because she's the mother of a beautiful young girl in a fairy tale land, and what are mothers of beautiful young girls in fairy tales? Dead.
One thing I didn't understand was why she still feels a need to sing. The first film made a point of her not joining in with Edward when he comes for her as she becomes more accustomed to life in the real world. Why after so long away from her world is she not less excitable and just acting like more if a normal human being? I think it would have been better if Morgan had made the wish and what ever it was brought back the old excitable Giselle. Your so right in it being a huge mish mash of ideas, so annoying because I was really looking forward to this movie 😭
Hi! I get what you mean. •I thought Giselle was breaking into song was because she was feeling depressed and homesick, so she was trying to cheer herself up. But Morgan said something in the movie like she does it often. So I am a little confused. •Also, I like your idea of Morgan making the wish and the spell making Giselle acting like her old self. •Honestly can someone please write a fanfic about this.
What I really loved from the Disenchanted movie was the fact that the soundtrack really made you feel that you were in a fairy tale. Also, the beautiful moral of the movie which was that even though a woman didn't give you birth, if she raised you, she is your mom. I loved it.
I actually enjoyed Giselle switching from good and evil because it shows that she is fighting this new version of herself that was caught in a curse, her true personality tries to preserver.
I think it would’ve been more interesting if Malvina was the true villain all along and not someone made out to be a villain by circumstance due to Giselle’s wish. When I first watched the trailer and teasers, I thought Malvina was always evil to begin with, seeking after the Wand’s magic. I even theorised that she could’ve been Narissa’s sister, out for Giselle’s blood for killing her. I do love Disenchanted, but there were weak moments in the pacing, character progression and story.
I didn't hate it, I really liked the concept but the execution could have been better. Also the music was kind of a let-down for me, cause the songs from the first movie were so instantly catchy and iconic and are some of my favorite Disney songs in general. In this one, I thought the villain song stood out as quite fun but everything else was kinda... eh. Which is surprising considering they were written by the same people.
I had the same feeling watching the film! I felt there were too many songs back to back when the original had three numbers and with some spacing between them that let them breathe nicely
@@DanielaMartinez-wt6ir I don't mind that it had too many songs, I like movie musicals that have a lot of singing. I just think the songs themselves were underwhelming and could've been better/more unique. Most of them blended together
totally agree! it was a very cool concept and i had some fun watching it but it's not something i want to rewatch over and over again like the first movie. the villain song was very fun :)
I didn’t think the sequel was that bad imo. But yeah I still see its flaws. The problems I had with the movie though was how some characters like Robert, Edward, and Tyson didn’t really do much. They were just there. I also felt like Malvina was kinda pointless. Like she was just evil for the sake of being evil. I was legit hoping there would be a plot twist that she would be from Andalasia or something. Come to think of it, what if Malvina actually tempted Morgan to make the wish, and ends up tricking her to help with her ulterior motives? I also feel like it could’ve been better if we learned more about Andalasia as well. But yeah that’s just my opinion.
The fact that they turned Monroeville into a fairy tale making everyone a trope made me think "Do people in Andalasia even have free will, or are they just forced to live out tropes?"
Another reference was Gisele almost copying verbatim what the wicked step mother in Cinderella when she can’t go to the ball. She says: “Do them again! And don't forget the garden. Then scrub the terrace, sweep the halls and the stairs, clean the chimneys. And of course there's the mending and the sewing and the laundry.”
My family and I had the hardest time actually getting through this sequel. The loss of the character growth and relationship dynamics of the first one, which should have been the basis or spring board for this continuation, completely killed it for me. It genuinely felt like someone at the conception of this either knew only the basics of the first movie or went "you remember where they ended up? Toss it out".
Tbh I normally have a lot of problems with the Disney sequels and remakes, but this one was just so camp and fun to watch that I didn’t mind the plot problems. My three biggest problems were Pip (ugh), the overblown use of Idina Menzel (I mean, I get that you need to use her voice, but the whole “Love, Power” song felt so forced I was rolling my eyes the whole time), and Giselle’s first outfit (I cannot even describe the rage at using the exact same fabric for the dress and cardigan but having the cardigan be light pink instead of white. It was so odd and I couldn’t stop trying to find any difference between the patterns to justify the clothes). But honestly I feel like Amy Adams was born to be an over the top, fabulous villain. She completely killed the role and even if the writing was lacking at points, her performance brought me so much delight I didn’t even care!!
I think they noticed how popular her song from frozen became they tried to recreate it with another belting song hoping to reignite that same hype flame
I don’t know if this is a reference but when Giselle said “I wish.” Reminded me of the Into The Woods Musical where Cinderella along with the rest of the fairytale characters say “I wish.”
It's such a shame Giselle is not marketed in the princess line, because she was always one of my favorites growing up 😪 she seems very forgotten by the majority of disney princess fans
Does she even count as a princess since she never married a prince. (Mulan counts since Disney needed her dress design for something years ago…read it somewhere)
@@aylin7716 yeah disney is just to cheap to pay for using her likeness so no merch or giselle 😭 (so put up with Disney's trashy films lately just give us a new animated movie omg)
I also really appreciated how the first film only had a few musical numbers which really added to the story and were used to make a commentary on the plot, serving as a comparison of the real and fairytale worlds. The sequel had waaaay too many songs, It made the good ones less impactful, the run time way too long, and were kinda just annoying. The first film had musical numbers but I wouldn't have considered it a musical. This was a full fledged musical and most of the songs were boring. I think it would have made more sense and been more impactful if the first musical number came when Giselle's wish came true, signifying how Monroeville had now transformed into a fairytale.
@@maryam.m In many places it was very scandalous tho, Disney Buys Marvel and then Fox 😱😱... Although I didn't mean it in a bad way, I mean is still recent. 2019 was just some years ago. Yet, Disney has been in discussions for an Anastasia sequel. I am probably more into showbiz lol. Sorry if you felt offended tho😖😓
@darkshadowlynn Only because I haven't been socializing enough since the pandemic for news about Disney's acquisitions (whether new or old) to come up in casual conversation with friends - hence my continued ignorance for the past few years after missing the initial buzz.
@@kyokugo6460 No offense taken! I was probably occupied with other things at the time, and I appreciated your clarification. I love Anastasia and don't think it requires a sequel, and knowing Disney's track record with sequels and remakes, I'm not very optimistic haha 😅
I wanted the character to be aware that they are in a fairytale and be confused about it. Involuntary singing and all. In this movie they just became completely different characters. There is a penguins of Madagascar episode that does it better.
wow I so agree with you on many points! I also like the movie. Your idea about making baby daughter of Giselle a closer age to Morgan can be soo cool. Because in that case Sofia made a wish using a magic wand because she wants to be in a fantasy land where everything is perfect since she's never experience that and she is young and naive to understand the consequences. So Giselle (who actually got used to living in a normal world) suddenly is turned into evil stepmother and she is not in control over the situation at all. At the end is Morgan who saves the day by believing that she is a true Andalasian and has magic because she believes in it, regardless her being born in real world of Nyc.
Fun fact: the screening test for Disenchanted is so bad they ended up reshooting a lot for the movie.. ppl said it's even worse than Marvel movies' reshoots.. it's bc the audience hate it so much since it's not what they're expecting after years & years waiting for the sequel... can u imagine if they didn't do the screening test? even after reshoots and changes it's still quite bad/cliche.. it really doesn't live up to the first movie tbh.. The only good/interesting part of the movie is when Giselle turning bad & Idina Menzel's "Love Power" song lol
While the movie has flaws, it's clear that there might have been a movie version of when "Spore" was released. FYI, Spore was hyped up for a while too and when it finally released people were disappointed.
I think there are a few references to Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella, too. The village dance portion of "Fairy Tale Life" resembles the "Prince Is Giving A Ball" sequence from the 90s version. Morgan and Tyson meeting at the market is also similar to Cinderella's meet-cute with the prince in the '90s version. Ann Harada's casting also seems to be a joke on her being one of the stepsisters in the Broadway version. Disney's apparently making a fourth Descendants movie with Brandy reprising Cinderella, so clearly someone's got that on the brain.
I really liked the idea that Giselle was turning into a wicked stepmother, but I thought that, instead of wishing their problems away they were going to subvert the idea that all stepmother’s are evil, and by having her break free of the curse because of her love for both of her daughters including her step daughter The idea that in a fairytale stepmothers are evil is bad messaging lol
I thought the sequel is going to about Giselle being homesick. Wanting Andalasia combine together in the real world. In this sequel, it got a lot of unnecessary filler, Teenage cliches, Morgan being a edgy teenager (which not all teenagers are edgy or gloomy) being cartoony in human world, and the story was rushed. In that scene, where Morgan was being bullied for wearing her mother clothes is not true. Me and some girl wear that style and no one said anything about it.
my biggest gripe with some hollywood writers is that they seem to never have actually interacted with today's teens... like i promise you teenagers nowadays dont even care about what someone is wearing at school
i personally really liked the sequel as i enjoyed the twist of giselle being an evil-stepmother which she would be due to fairytales portraying them like that, however the two downsides of the sequel are the songs (not as boppy or as good in my opinion) and the original actress of morgan didn’t reprise her role
@@Lizzybaby3000 They are two different actresses. The original Morgan played by Rachel Covey she has a cameo in Disenchanted. She is the Monroloasian girl who reminds of Giselle about the festival. The new Morgan played by Gabriella Baldacchino. She has a beautiful and amazing voice. These two actresses looks very similar to each other. So you can’t tell the difference.
The original Morgan not reprising her role wasn't a factor for me. The new one was fantastic in her role, looks a lot like the old one, and had chemistry with the original cast. And the original has a cameo! As you said, the songs lacked the classic Disney earworm, which was a big one for me. And the script felt weak imo. I LOVED the premise, but the execution fell flat
Fan fact: Robert's coworkers played by Broadway actors involved in fairytale-musicals. Michael McCorry Rose from Wicked and Anastasia, James Monroe Iglehart from Aladdin, Ann Harada from Cinderella
1 more thing. In the original Giselle becomes more 'real' than a disney character, but in the beginning of this film you can see she's back to the same disney character, its like she's gone backwards than forward. i mean let's be real, 10 years in a city really changes you, so how is Giselle literally the same as she was 10 years ago?
Hi! I get what you mean. I thought Giselle was breaking into song was because she was feeling depressed and homesick, so she was trying to cheer herself up. But Morgan said something in the movie like she does it often. So I am a little confused.
kevin lima, the director of enchanted (and a director, animator and contributor to countless other disney classics as seen in his filmography), did not come back to direct disenchanted (he's never explicitly stated why other than internal affairs that got him kicked from the project, which was going to be incredibly different to what we end up getting), and it shows. disenchanted is fun - but's all it is. it lacks the charm, the subversive humour, the intricacies of characters' relationships with each other, and the underlying complexities enchanted had. man, i was so excited for this sequel. i'll still give it a rewatch sometime - but it makes me appreciate just how amazing enchanted was in comparison.
I rewatched Enchanted recently and it really holds up. I was excited to see Disenchanted but it's glaring how modern Disney film making is so...messy. Giselle's wickedness should've been developed by Giselle's real selfish and deluded desires that the magic makes her act on and descend into. When she wants everything to fall in line because she doesn't know how to handle a rebellious daughter, it could've made a realistic connection. When it's just the magic that makes her evil, it portrays it as totally out of character which doesn't give her depth or growth. Just because she made the wish isn't enough of a flaw for me.
I really liked it! Was it perfect? Nope. Could it have been executed better? Hell yeah! But it was still fun and enjoyable and a pretty decent sequel. Also the acting from everyone was great!
The other thing to consider was the time the original film came out; by late 2007 the cinema landscape was flooded with cynical, self-aware and "hip" fractured fairy tale movies that "Shrek" popularized. Disney wasn't even doing classic Princess films, playing third fiddle to Pixar's avantgarde storytelling and DreamWorks 's "cool with the youths" movies. "Enchanted" came at the right time and the correct place as by that point people were legit missing a classic Disney fairy tale musical but the audience was still jaded by the formula. "Enchanted"! perfectly balanced that with story and characters that were a reflection of the audience's desires. It was a sincere story that mocked the tropes but also celebrated them. The characters felt genuine and even when the real world was being "real" it added to the story. I loved "Disenchanted", but to me it was too campy and legit felt more of a parody of a Disney movie than a tribute to one. Like it's mentioned in the video, the characters prior to the curse felt like parodies of real people and before we even meet them we know EXACTLY what role they will play. And everyone when they get affected by the spell are caricatures of themselves to the point some moments were cringe. It's not a bad movie per say as it has enough perk and charm for me to watch it as comfort viewing for when I need a break from the real world. But it does showcase why the original was such a great film, one that we legit took got granted and slept on when it first came out. I know I rambled a lot, but am I the only one that thinks Disenchanted is Disney's "Wandavision"? You have two red-heads wishing for an ideal life based on a relic of their past so they used their powers to town a sleep suburban town into their ideal fantasy Worlds in which everyone plays a trope, and the more they are in that fantasy the more wicked they become and the more unstable the power gets. Then you have a rival that is also looking to gain that power for herself...and they even use red and purple magic. Bug difference though? Giselle's family Is VERY real and didn't have to go across the multiverse and kill people to try to find them :)
Imo the love magic spell song sounded like they asked Idina Menzel to belt her heart out in a studio for 10 minutes and added the score after. It was visually quite pretty though, I really loved the og Cinderella moment
It’s such a shame, during the whole synopsis of the plot of the sequel there was a lot there that I was saying “oh that actually sounds fun” “oh that’s a fun idea” but then the execution turned out so poorly…
The plot, good, unique and furthered the methos of the first movie, the acting was good especially with Amy Adams having to switch between roles of her regular self and the Evil Stepmother side, the production design was incredible and really gave you the feel for an old school Disney fairy tale, and the songs were great, well composed, super catchy and beautifully sung. What the movie lacked was proper character development and pacing. Other than Giselle trying start a new chapter to recapture the idealistic life of Andalasia that she is homesick for, while also trying to be a good stepmother, everybody else has a little purpose. I get Morgan being a moody teen and not wanting to move, but we don't get to see enough of her school life to justify her resentment of Giselle. I also kinda get Robert is going through a midlife crisis, but they don't expand on it enough to have me care. Even the way the film just kind of throws stuff at you without letting the mood set in, like when Morgan blows up and Giselle and it sends Giselle into her next song about what she wishes for. If they would have given us a a moment to absorb the emotion, I wouldn't have growned when she started singing, like "Are we doing another song?!" And I hated feeling that way because this is a legitimate good song and it is what kicks the main plot into high gear. Then everything's a fairy tale and as cute as it is, Robert Morgan and Robert are now not themselves, but fairy tale representations of themselves for most of the movie. Giselle becoming an evil stepmother from the trope of her fairy tale life she wished for is the only interesting plot thread with once again Amy Adams flawlessly playing both sides. But with little stakes to help the story go anywhere. I felt that both Morgan and Robert did have some elements of their original personality in there, with Morgan still feeling like an outsider and Robert trying to prove himself as somebody extraordinary during his midlife crisis. But just like with Morgan we only see doses of her life in high school, that her life in the fairy tale is also just as vague with her desires, her enemies, etc.. It would have been better if we got more detail with her school life, maybe if Morgan went back and forth from having her normal mind and her fairy tale mind like Giselle was with the stepmother role, getting sucked into the fairy tale world but also questioning it when things aren't working out. Heck, Robert trying to be heroic and then halfway questioning himself like his original more cynical self in the first movie, it'd be hilarious having him realize he's getting an over his head with things like dragon is an ogres and stuff, like "Am I really doing this?" It would have followed up on the commentary of a midlife crisis, giving his scenes more depth and the part where he saves the girl from the collapsing stand and she goes with her family, that would have been the moment he realized that his life does have meaning when he's with his family. You can see the look on his face that's what they were going for. But the way they executed, it looks like he's just imitating Prince Edward in just a bunch of random scenes that tie into nothing. Heck, having world-building for the whole town of Monroeville before it turned into a fairy tale would have strengthened the plot all together, showing us the imperfect real world affecting the main characters and how everything is either changed for the better or worse with all the residents in it. Overall, I think it was a fair attempt. I imagine this was hard to conceive but they gave us something that I do find legitimately entertaining and even memorable; heck, I still can't get these songs out of my head. But with the elements I've mentioned, it would have earned Disenchanted to worthy successor sequel to the original as opposed to just a mediocre attempt with a few good results.
I kinda wished Morgan was the one who wished for a fairytale life like Giselle, which ties in to the cottagecore life that had a hold on gen z. However, she did not know that Giselle stepmother was evil and that fairytales aren’t great for everyone. Perhaps she gets chased by a troll and cursed by a witch. At the end, she is in the same position as Giselle in the first movie where her stepmother turns into a monster but Morgan is unable to kill her as she knows her stepmother is actually kind and she has to find a way to solve it. It could have the message of people romanticising certain things (like the 50s, regency, renaissance) without understanding what its actually like. The sentiment of “I want to go back to that time”. I think this one is decent but the previous is superior 🤭
i wonder if they could've done an escapism theme by going into the fairytale world. like Morgan is overwhelmed at school or something, and going to Andelasia or using a wish to escape reality. idk i'm not a writer
I’m so confused. Giselle has lived with Morgan and Robert for a significant amount of time and it was implied in the first movie that she had gotten her “fairy tale ending”. In the sequel it appears that Giselle never adjusted to life beyond Andalasia. She also displays attributes that were never there in the first place. Why is she all of a sudden selfish? She was nothing but kind in the first movie. Granted she was delusional, but she should have mellowed out and learned how to function by now, right? Disney really should learn themselves not to touch old films if they are completely fine being standalones. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! I think the story is better just ending where the first movie did and leaving the audience to imagine themselves what life was like after.
I also think this movie was a victim of restructuring and refilming. They originally showed the movie and it got extremely poor reactions. So that’s why they probably decided to focus more on the nostalgia factors.
Disenchanted had glimpses of good ideas, but just fell short for me. The fantastical Monroeville felt lackluster. But I will say the costume designers still slayed, and the villain showdown song was such a bop!
25:49 ohhhh, so THATS the reason why i felt like the fashion choices of disenchanted doesn't feel related or similiar from the original film. Tbh, everyones costume in the fairytale setting looks like what people would wear in the masquerade ball from the original film.
If the first movie was about the animated characters becoming live action, why couldn’t they have done the opposite in this movie and returned to animated world? Maybe Giselle becomes upset at her life and her relationship with Morgan, like in disenchantment and instead of moving into another town maybe they take a vacation into Andalasian or straight up move there temporarily. Instead of Giselle being a fish out of water, this could be Morgan fish out of water story. And her trying to subvert the fairy tale. We could also have the wicked step mother trope, and we could also see how Nancy and Edward relationship works. Maybe have Giselle missing the normal world or a “my home was different from how I remembered?” Trope. She could be disappointed in her fairy tale life, that she wanted? And blames Morgan since she would technically be the protagonist. And not her. But instead of realizing she’s conformed to the real world, and has different or high expectations assume Morgan is the girl to blame.
I thought they were going that route at first. Especially since Giselle kept thinking about her kingdom. But, they probably didn't want to do too much animation.
the setting of monroeville was so strange already that i had assumed that malvina WAS a villain from andalasia or something but, nope, that apparently was "the real world"
The only two live-action Disney movies that worked for me were _Cinderella_ (2015) and _Enchanted,_ and Disney seems to refuse to do the things that made them so wonderful. I love that you pulled the clip of Narissa saying that she sent Giselle to a place where "there are no happily-ever-afters." Giselle facing the 'real' world, adjusting while never letting it fundamentally change her nurturing and hopeful spirit, then finding that happily-ever-after in a place they supposedly don't exist, is the magic of that movie. Similarly, in _Cinderella,_ the magic was found not in focusing on making Cinderella a watered-down version of a strong man, but highlighting the gifts of a strong woman that lead to _her_ own happy ending. The best of Disney Princesses was always in showing the _unique_ gifts and strengths of women *as* women. Animated Mulan doesn't brute-strength her way up the post carrying the weights, she shows mental flexibility and succeeds by approaching the challenge differently. Contrary to popular belief, _Beauty and the Beast_ isn't an 'I can change him' story. It's a story of the way a woman embodying archetypal feminine virtues (being kind, loving, patient, understanding, and family-oriented; without being unintelligent, uninteresting, a doormat, or accepting of bad behavior) is powerful enough to _inspire_ even the most hard-hearted beast to _want_ to be a better version of himself -- to rise up to be worthy of a woman like her. Nowadays, it seems like 'girl power' just means being a girl who's more like a man.
I can't help but wish they made Morgan aromantic coded kinda like Elsa and subvert old formula of princesses finding their love and having happily ever after tied to romance. It's nothing new at this point with Elsa and Merida but it would be cool to see how Giselle (born hopeless romantic who already had her happily ever after) reacts to her daughter in her eyes "rejecting" what she once thought was most important in life. It doesn't have to be main drama in the movie but it would work well as one of many things that drives them apart, she already calls herself "fake daughter of Andalasia” so why not make that actually visible by who she is? In the movie she's stereotypical princess really straight, skinny, girly with long hair and pastel gown at the end she just have an attitude but so have Diana or Jasmine it's not subverting anything. It would be cool if she was this aromantic gothic girl who still loves fairytales but as a teen prefers villains over princesses idk.
You know, I'm really surprised that Giselle had a child before Nancy. Nancy and Edward got married at the end of the first movie. While I know coming from the serious world, Nancy wouldn't just jump into making babies (she was a career woman after all), as King and Queen isn't it their duty to provide heirs? Giselle and Edward was only dating at the end of the first movie...has 10 years not passed in Andalasia too? Edit: lol, Just realised I said Giselle and Edward instead of Giselle and...and...McDreamy guy
Ok i totally agree with making the child older not only could they have played into the relationship between the two sisters. But they could also play into the step-mother step-sister vibes like in Cinderella. Where it plays into Morgan's view as Giselle liking her daughter more than Morgan.
i really loved the movie, as a fan of the original, but i can see why it might not be others cup of tea. it can’t compare to the original, but i still loved it.
I see many comments talking about how Morgan being the main character would have saved the movie and I frankly don't understand it. I'm tired of daughters stealing the original female protagonists roles in bad Disney sequels, in the Melody and Jane Darling fashion. Morgan was very bland and harmless in the end as a character in this and still she was so annoying to me, I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if she was stealing the main role. Giselle is the truly heart of the original movie and the only character that was kinda present in the collective memory until now (I would mention maybe Edward but generally nobody knows who he is, let's be honest). Giselle and Amy Adams are the soul of Enchanted. So no, if a sequel for Enchanted was meant to be of course it had to focus on Giselle, absolutely nobody would have cared for a sequel with Morgan leaving her stepmother with 15 min of screentime.
Morgan is main caracter. The movie is about Morgan's reaction to the baby. After visit from Nancy and Edvard bringing magic wand to the baby, "that can only be used by real dauther of farytale land", Morgan stops reffering to Giselle as mother and angrily calls her hers step mother. Giselle is sadenned by it and makes a wish. Which causes her to become evil step-mother (as Morgan started to see the situation irl.) The ending is about Giselle adressing Morgan's hurt, claiming her as the real dauther so Morgan can save everyone with magic wand. And she's back to calling her mum again. Underneat all that glitter, It was just about teenager adopting to changes of having new sibling and moving to new town.
@@DodirAnelaIntuitivnoOtvaranje Morgan is not technically the main character. She's the narrative excuse to make Giselle commit mistakes and take decisions. Morgan is a very basic teen character without a lot of agency since she doesn't even keep her real personality in the fairytale town, and it's a prompt to show us disney character traits that Giselle can't cover anymore (young, falling in love, attending a ball, dancing and singing around, getting a gown, animated segment) because she's a motherly figure now. In the end Morgan little agency is about... maybe escaping from her tower? Aside that everything she does is following instructions and being in danger. Giselle is the main character because she's the one whose actions make the plot move. We start the movie with her and we end the movie with her. I would even say Nancy is more of a main character in a way than Morgan because her actions are more important in providing the necessary magic and guiding Morgan. In summary the plot is not about Morgan reaching good terms with Giselle but the opposite, Giselle fixing her relationship with her daughter.
I agree that daughters don't have to take the main role in sequels! Although I was confused by how unadjusted Giselle seemed after 10 years and thought her character was more shallow in this one, I found it refreshing that they still kept her as the main person. I agree that she is the heart of Enchanted. Storylines can be about young women but don't always need to be - life goes on 10 years later and there should still be stories to tell in that complexity.
Something so unique about Enchanted is that Giselle brought the fairytale magic to New York (in scenes like That’s How You Know and the cleaning montage) while also becoming more human herself. She transformed the world around her and made it more optimistic/magical while the world gave her more depth. So why would she have to wish for a fairytale life when she makes her setting fairytale like wherever she goes? Overall not explained well and a major plot hole that makes the whole sequel pointless.
I prefer the original one, a lot of y'all says it was rush it's because it is. I watched one of their interviews saying the first preview wasn't a huge success, resulting in them to reshoot real quick because they have to follow the release schedule.
They should've made Sofia maybe 12? and Morgan 18, or even 10 and 16, it would've made a lot more sense, and it would've given them more creative freedom with the plot.
As always, you gave an insightful analysis and offer solid suggestions. Do you think subversions of tropes have now been overused? I am starting to think that way. It feels like this new generation is more familiar with the subversions than the original. I would love them to go back to the classics to show modern audiences WHY they are classics.
I liked the idea of what Disenchanted was going for but I would have liked it even better if it was still set in New York. Giselle is trying to find her way and fit in with everyone else, while running her fashion store. Morgan sees Giselle stuggling and realizes she isn't too happy with her life either and remembers all those fairy tale stories Giselle told her growing up and so she makes the wish with the wand for a fairytale life. (I liked the idea of Nancy and Edward giving Giselle the wand but only have them give it to her like on her birthday or something) . Anyway, on the FIRST day, Morgan is the main character of a fairytale life and Robert and Giselle are now evil parents and rulers of New York City. But Morgan doesn't really notice yet (since she's too busy having fun and is was what she dreamed about) until the SECOND day. Morgan begins to notice her parents are now evil and want to expand their power all over the globe besides New York. Also Nerissa returns and wanted to kill Giselle and Robert but doesn't because she likes the new evil them and gives them the idea of expanding their power. (So basically not ONLY did the wand give Morgan her wish but it also brought back Nerissa.) Anyway, Morgan is freaking out and goes to Andalusia to find Edward and Nancy for help. The two then remind Morgan that the wish can ONLY being undone by the one who made the wish but ONLY after the stroke of midnight on the THIRD day. After the third day the spell will be permanent. So, together the five of them ( pip included) go to the Real World and try to find the wand. Only to figure out that Nerissa had the wand the whole time after she was revived. But, Nancy comes up with a plan to start a rebellion with the citizens as a distraction for her and Morgan and Pip to get the wand and break the curse. Anyway on the THIRD day/night the rebellion attacks. Robert and his evil forces retaliat. (Robot and Edward kind of have this funny show down or battle together lol). Nerissa and evil Giselle are watching the fight but notice that Nancy and Morgan and Pip are going in a different direction then the rebels. So, Nerissa gets suspicious. When Morgan and Nancy finally reach where the wand is being held, Giselle is already there. Protecting it. Giselle starts attacking Nancy and Morgan with the wands powers, all the while, Morgan tries to reach her mother. Telling her that she did this for her to be happy. For them to be happy and a family. Morgan's words almost work because Giselle kind of "glitches" between being her old self and new evil self. Meanwhile, during their fight, Edward is able to remind Robert of his good self and the two stop fighting and go help Morgan and Nancy. On the way there, Edward fills in Robert on everything that's happened far. While Giselle is physically and emotionally fighting this new evil side of herself, she tries to hand Morgan the wand but Nerissa comes in at the last second and manipulats Giselle to embrace the darkness and if no one is going to allow her to fit in or " have a seat at the table" then she has to take it by force. So Giselle embrace the darkness and gives Nerissa the wand. But Edward and Robert come in and tackle Nerissa and the wand goes flying to Nancy (and at this point it kind of like hot potato or "keep away.") Morgan is then able to get her hands on the wand and tries to make the wish but Nerissa blast her with magic and uses her magic to freeze Nancy and Edward and Pip and Robert in time while, she takes the wand and breaks it. With this being done Robert snaps back to becoming evil. And the time freezeing spell stops. Nancy and Edward and Pip then come up with a plan to stop the Clock tower from reaching midnight (bc I liked the whole idea of a clock tower). But while Nancy and Edward and Pip are trying to stop the tower Robert follows them and tries to stop their plan. Meanwhile, evil Giselle glance out the window at the battle and smiles because she's happy about what is being done. Nerissa goes on to have villan monologue about how all she wanted was power and she never really fit in and wasn't happy with her life like Giselle and Morgan until she got that power and the crown. But, Morgan thinking all hope is lost suddenly realizes why the clock is not striking midnight and that Nancy and Edward are buying her some time to undo the curse. So, Morgan takes the pieces of the wand while dodging magic blast from Nerissa and glances at her mother and wishes for everything to go back to the way it was. Then, everything is as it was before. Robert doesn't remember anything and thinks it was all a dream. Nerissa dies, again. Morgan and Giselle and the others all remember everything so clearly because they are true daughters and son of Andalusia. Morgan talks to Giselle telling her, she just wanted giselle and their family to be happy and be like a everyone else. But Giselle tells her no. She's fine right where she is and the two realize they don't need to be like everybody else. That life is too short and too complicated to be worried about being liked by everyone else or "getting a seat at the table". And they two should have realized it all along and they have each other and that should be the only thing that makes them happy. (I know it sounds cheesie or cringe but I like that idea). Nancy and Edward and Pip come to visit and try to explain to Robert, with Giselle and Morgan, what the happened in his dream, ACTUALLY happened. THE END.....
You have no idea how bummed I was that Giselle never got a song where she went back and forth between her Giselle princess voice and the wicked stepmother voice... because my girl Amy would have ATE the music number up! 😤
OMG. MISSED OPPORTUNITY
Damn, that would be good
OMG BYE you ruined the film we got for me 😭😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺
oh this would have been goooooood!
oh that would have been amazing
I don’t understand, Giselle appear to understand the real world better at the end of the original than 10 years later
End of the original - stops singing and dancing spontaneously in less than a week
10 years later - starts singing and dancing spontaneously in the middle of a dangerous construction zone 🥴
@@Anthony-fu6clwell the thing is they explain that she is still a character from Andalasia and she still has some magic from there which makes her still the lovable Giselle we got to watch. But I digress, yeah I just wished we saw her get a little more realistic. The whole point of the first movie was it is ok to have a little fantasy and realism on your life. It makes it more unpredictable and exiting.
@@roxanne_ So you're saying she simply didn't want to duet with Edward in the first movie when he arrived to save her? And why didn't the construction workers join in the song if her magic had that effect in the first movie? I just watched the director of the first film's commentary and he said Giselle explicitly sings less throughout the movie as she becomes more real. So 10 years later she's still not real...?
I get what you mean, I thought maybe Giselle was feeling depressed and homesick so she was trying to make herself feel happy by singing. (I hope that makes sense).
I do have one question though, during the first song “Even more Enchanted”, I feel that only Morgan and Robert noticed that she was singing, and only a few background characters noticed she was singing too.
•I guess Morgan and Robert are just used to Giselle singing, but I was surprised to see that no one in Monroeville was confused in the first song of the movie on why she was singing in the real world.
I would've loved it if the conflict between Giselle and Morgan was about Giselle being obsessed with fitting in in the real world and Morgan being obsessed with living the fairy tale life her mother always talked about. that way, if Morgan made the wish, that would make her the main character. I would've also liked it if they made Robert evil along with Giselle.
Oh that would have been good
That actually would have been a better plot.
I really like your idea too! I wonder if anyone would make a fanfic about this.
That would've made a lot more sense. Ugh! I'm so mad that they didn't do this. Such a missed opportunity.
Robert was just a himbo in this movie but I loved it
imo the whole "wicked stepmother" plot falls apart when in the original movie, Giselle already told Morgan that not all stepmothers were evil and that she knew plenty in Andalasia who were kind and loving just like biological mothers when Morgan was worried about Nancy becoming her stepmother, throughout the whole movie I kept thinking about that plot hole
I think that wand was the wicked one! Just like one Hogwarts diary slipped into innocent hands!
Yes, and Giselle was technically Morgan's stepmom, but loved her unconditionally
But don't forget Prince Edward had a evil stepmother himself, so Andalasia rules play to whatever trope fits the fairy tale. Giselle was clearly a nice stepmother, but when she wished for a fairy tale life, it gave her the role as the evil stepmother in the fairy tale. This is a case of magic gone mad.
yeah but she was dumb as shit she thought the villain was a good person
@@welcometothemetaverse2523 Was Queen Narissa an evil stepmother tho? Edward is dressed well, fed well, at least enough for Giselle to heard of her being good. Sure he is himbo, but that's less on him being sheltered and more of him being a fairytale character. And she does prefer to avoid tension between her and her stepson when she did poisoned Giselle. At best she's an evil soon-to-be mother-in-law.
To me, it would be WAY funnier if Robert was aware of the change. Imagine his annoyance and frustration at the fact that now HE is the one stranded in a world he doesn't understand or like, at least initially. All the fairytale naiveté concentrated in Giselle now surrounding him, and his arc could mirror Giselle's in the first movie, learning to find happiness in an alien environment. This and, of course, the manny comic situations I can think of.
That would have been great!
That would have been way funnier! Could have also involved some physical comedy.....like he keeps trying to resist what's happening to him, but the wish/spell keeps forcing him (physically) to play the hero.
Ohmaigod, this would have been goooooood.
"Wait, why am I suddenly carrying this sword around?"
"Can we *please* travel 5 yards without a musical number??"
"How on earth am I still okay, after being lit on fire by a freaking dragon???"
Robert's cynical commentary was such a funny contrast to the whimsical atmosphere of That's How You Know, and I honestly would've loved to see it revisited in the sequel.
Honestly when I was hearing there was going to be a Enchanted sequel, I was expecting this kind of running gag/humor to show up throughout the movie.
That’s would be so great to see Robert’s reaction to be a now fairytale character.
I hated so much that they took the “You are not my real mom” route. One of the biggest subversions in the original movie was that Giselle would become a stepmother, just not an evil one. I found this so refreshing back in the day 😢
The worst thing is that Giselle and Morgan were sometimes acting like they met a week before the movie 😭 Their relationship was so all over the place.
That’s what I thought too! Morgan was so out of character for this… The younger Morgan you would of never thought to grow up like that…
I could maybe see a scenario for conflicts sake where Morgan gets upset because Giselle doesn't treat her like a daughter but rather like a friend or sister. Where there's a contrast in how she treats the baby compared to her where she can tell her I need to to be my mom and take this seriously right now. It would have been a small tweak but been a more understandable progression of their relationship. Instead what we got was Giselle basically a perfect mom does noting wrong and Morgan gets annoyed because teenager the motivation isn't there.
Morgan’s “real mom” left her behind so for them to make her character act as if she is not grateful for the mother role Giselle plays in her life is so unfitting for her character.
@@Phia525 It would have been amazing to see Morgan’s bio mom trying to reconnect with her by putting down Giselle parental skills. Like, “how do you expect to mother a teen when you act like a child?”
I think a major question that I was asking right from the beginning was, what exactly happened to Giselle's "Andalasian Fashions" business? Because it is NEVER mentioned in Disenchanted once!
omg yes! I'm also wondering about what happend to Nathaniel :")
Yeah, when she was at the dress store, I thought she was going to take over the shop owner's business, but she just bought alot of the dresses.
Omg that is literally what I said. Like why didn't they just move to a bigger apartment? Their entire life was in New York. It even showed that in disenchanted with the commute the dad had to make.
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING !!!! and they never even mentioned it in the 2nd one!
Apparently after having a baby she just became a stay at home mom?? Idk no wonder she was miserable
It was so strange that they didn’t choose to make the child older to explore the stepsister dynamic. The wand thing could still be explained as a birthday gift for a certain age or something.
Yeah, They could've played into a little "princess Sophia the first" song referencing Disney Junior princess stuff, Missed opportunity
That’s a good idea, that can make Morgan feel more jealous of her sister Sophia since when Morgan was little she liked fairytales. And now her little sister is receiving something from the fairytale world. (I hope that makes sense.)
@@kyokugo6460 That’s a good idea, that can make Morgan feel more jealous of her sister Sophia since when Morgan was little she liked fairytales. And now her little sister is receiving something from the fairytale world. (I hope that makes sense)..
•I really like your idea of referencing The Disney Junior show of Sofia the First.
Even making the younger sister like a young girl who got the gift of wishing on her 6th, 8th, or 10th birthday would be interesting
Mm....I feel it's too easy to make the teen a brat thing, it's been done millions of times in these stories, I'm glad Morgan was conflicted but still a good person before and after the wish, it shows that Robert and Giselle raised her with good natured, even if she's a teenager, she never came off as bratty cuz that would've made her annoying to truly care about
Going the Belle/Cinderella route was the better way since she didn't totally see Giselle as a mom yet, it's part of why Giselle turned into a stepmom in the first place
None of this works if you don't understand each of their sides leading to their roles after the wish
It was obvious the writers didn't know what to do with Robert and it was painful to watch. Edward had a similar problem, but since he's a secondary character it wasn't as distracting.
Robert was the filler of the movie, it was sad to see
I honestly forgot about Robert halfway through the movie. Until it showed him again. What a shame lol
And Nancy, she's only there to help Morgan in the 3rd act 😒
You can completely remove Robert from the movie and it won't make a difference ☹️
YES!
The town STARTING as so cartoony was my number one issue with why the whole thing felt off. Thanks for being one of the few who pointed it out. It tied into my issue with giselle being unreasonably selfish and regressive in this movie.
Also robert wasn’t even a character and my other main issue was how both him and morgan weren’t themselves for 80% of the movie. Their personalities and agency were erased with the spell, which made their journeys uninteresting. I’m also naturally sad that my second Disney OTP had no meaningful interactions.
@@jill9978 Morgan and Robert having their memories erased for most of the film was my biggest gripe. Sure, Morgan gets hers back when she gets to Andalasia, but by then we're well on our way to the climax. There's no emotional stakes to Giselle progressively turning evil, barely anyone noticed or cared in the new world besides Pip. So now you have Amy Adams carrying the emotional weight of the movie on her back because everyone else involved are Disney caricatures. It would have been much better if Morgan and Robert stayed the same, or at least be conscious of their new reality.
@@jill9978 I felt that both Morgan and Robert did have some elements of their original personality in there, with Morgan still feeling like an outsider and Robert trying to prove himself as somebody extraordinary during his midlife crisis. But just like with Morgan we only see doses of her life in high school, that her life in the fairy tale is also just as vague with her desires, her enemies, etc.. It would have been better if we got more detail with her school life, maybe if Morgan went back and forth from having her normal mind and her fairy tale mind like Giselle was with the stepmother role, getting sucked into the fairy tale world but also questioning it when things aren't working out. Heck, Robert trying to be heroic and then halfway questioning himself like his original more cynical self in the first movie, it'd be hilarious having him realize he's getting an over his head with things like dragon is an ogres and stuff, like "Am I really doing this?" It would have followed up on the commentary of a midlife crisis, giving his scenes more depth and the part where he saves the girl from the collapsing stand and she goes with her family, that would have been the moment he realized that his life does have meaning when he's with his family. You can see the look on his face that's what they were going for. But the way they executed, it looks like he's just imitating Prince Edward in just a bunch of random scenes that tie into nothing.
@@Anthony-fu6cl What I find incredibly weird is that when Morgan gets her memory back in Andalasia, she still behaves like her fantasy self. If you look at Love Power, Morgan is still moving her arms like a typical disney princess. That confused me so much while watching it!
Live action teen dramas have always been like that so really don't think "cartoony" is the right word. More like "hello fellow kids".
Also fairytale/cottage core is so in right now. Like this a niche fashion but I promise there would be some kids as Morgan's school who would think she was cool for what she was wearing, or thought she looked cute.
I liked the base dress, the mini little jacket thing tho clashed, if it had a different pattern it would work just fine, that was the only odd thing about the outfit
I think it would be more interesting that after Giselle became a business women and being from an actual fairy tale, she’d reject the idea.
You know instead of having Giselle dress Morgan maybe have the I don’t want you wearing those clothes.
This isn't uncommon, but it was kind of embarrassing how out of touch the writing was with actual teenagers. Like, who actually would realistically say, "haha, she has flowers on her dress" or whatever the line was? I get the other girls were supposed to be the "bullies" and highlight how Morgan didn't fit in, but it's weird how removed the teenage characters were from what teenagers actually do and say, considering the audience for the film would have likely included a significant amount of teenagers and young adults who grew up with the first one.
As someone who graduated hs years ago and is completely out of touch...is this really true?
Like I honestly can't wrap my head around that. I've always wanted to wear cottagecore but was afraid of getting bullied for it. It seems kids are less judgemental nowadays.
There's literally a handful of kids in the background who wear cottage core and yet Morgan's supposedly ostracized for wearing a really good looking strawberry dress?
I actually find it weird how, for all the magic the film had (half the film was literally set in a fantastic variation of Monroeville), the first film felt more magical (yet somehow, it was rooted to reality.) I did like the film well enough though.
While that’s probably due to rushed and poorly executed storytelling, I’d like to think it is another illustration of how Giselles regular life is fulfilling and meaningful if she continues to work through the hard times. Reality can be magical if you manage to maintain a healthy mindset like Giselle had in the first movie. She had just forgotten that in the hustle and bustle of the regular responsibilities of “normal” life - most people do and it takes more than hopeful wishing to get back to a happy place.
I feel like some of it is the setting. New York has a magical feeling to it, the city has that vibe that made it perfect for the first movie. New York already feels like a place where anything weird and wonderful can happen, so it was perfect for the setting of people finding out fairytale lands are real.
A small town could serve the same purpose of "things turned into a fairytale" but they made the town generic small town. If it was more shrouded in woods, or Morgan learns about local myths like the local "witch" or people disappear on the lake, etc. Something to give the town a "magical" feel to better immerse the change caused by the wish, but they didn't so it's all just like...bland....like the magic is just there
@@Starburst514 very true. Also disenchanted looks so cheap. there is this awful soft filter over everything and the costume design is so boring. the costumes in enchanted feel much more thought out and really add to the magical feel. not to mention the 2D animation is also awful, it’s embarrassing that the 2D animation from 2007 was so much better than what they used over a decade later
I think the first film felt more magical because it was rooted in realty. It's like that saying "if everyone is special then no one is." If everything is magical, then nothing is. We're just bombarded with magic in the sequel to ad nauseam while the first film gave us glimpses.
@@lanadelclown7706 YESSSS! That tooo! It's like they tried to make disenchanted more cartoony or something and that translated into just cheap. I hate the 2D animation so much too 😫
It’s not bad, it’s better than some other sequels, but enchanted was such a well executed and memorable movie that it’s so hard to top that
Not to mention, this movie has the same problem with sequels like Transformers 4 of having too many ideas with no coherence
Only thing I liked was seeing 2D animation come back (I love 2D)
But TBH I don't think Enchanted needed a sequel. I also feel like it missed the point of the first one with the whole not all step mothers being evil thing
it's not that bad if you throw your braincells out of the window, but ahhh, I just... the missed potential you know! we would've had two great enchanted movies. the sequel is so unforgivably forgetful.
For me, this movie felt like it had no awareness of the first movie, almost like it didn't watch the first movie. It shows itself in little ways. Like why wouldn't giselle, who owned a dress shop in NYC just make morgan new clothes, make her a dress for the ball instead of shopping one. You could still have her destroy it, but it would mean more because giselle made it for her.
Why would Robert want to be a dragon slayer, even under the curse. He was kidnapped by a dragon in the first film, I would think he would be terrified of them.
My hottest take is I think the "villain" should have been Morgan's birth mother. Maybe she tries to come back into the picture, it would make more sense for giselle to feel self conscious as a "step mother" and they could have shown that your mother figure or family isn't blood.
Wasn't Morgan's mother dead?
@@island_girl_shan she left them, which is why Robert was so anti fairy tale, he wanted morgan to be independent and not have to rely on anyone.
Wow I REALLY like that idea!
Also Disenchanted Can Also Count As TERRIBLY Outdated! (And I Don't Mean By Having Old Pop Culture References) This Is A Movie With 2 Villains That DOESN'T Use Or Mention The Villain Team-Up Trope. Heck! There's Even A Scene Where Giselle Says "There Can Only EVER be One Villain! Not Counting Minions, or Pets, or Villains You Don't Know Until It's Too Late." And The "Badder" Sequence & The Duel Scene Don't Hide It At All! Period!
Giselles main hobby was making dresses, she loved being inventive with those. When they went shopping I was shook, and not in a good way
One thing I would say as a fashion stylist is that the costuming in both films have been fairly constant in terms of showing the personality and evolution of the characters. Though I do agree that it was weird that Giselle didn’t just make an outfit for Morgan seeing as how she could make an outfit out of curtains
Yep, thought she was going to make her new clothes....she had a fashion business at the end of the first movie.
Well, _let's put it this way:_
_Maybe,for the next little while,Giselle was probably gonna be happily taking over the domestic duties of being a mother for the next little while,and MAYBE since they moved/have a new baby in the house,maybe Giselle was planning to return to the fashion business,but to a smaller scale when her youngest got older AND PROBABLY the old curtains were still unpacked/Giselle was probably waiting for a special occasion to make her step-daughter Morgan a new dress afterwards,if the occasion/time suits it so,of course really..?_
_I mean,THEY JUST moved there,honestly-Still they haven't got time to settle just yet..and again,new baby in the family here,so..?_
@@sharonspears-mandeville2369 that should've been addressed in the movie instead of being left up to speculation
Here’s one part of the story I would have done:
- made Sophia born as soon as reasonably possible after the first movie
- introduce some conflict between Morgan and Sophia
- make Sophia make the wish after Giselle tells her a story of Andalasia
- Giselle becomes a wicked stepmom
- Morgan and Sophia actually maintain their personalities and autonomy
- Robert still becomes a sort of bumbling hero though not an exact copy of Edward
- Giselle tries to kill Robert because the dad always dies after the stepmom comes in
- and the sisters have to solve the problem together. Save their dad. Morgan still has to make the saving wish. Good message about stepsiblings
Keeps it to the core cast and gets to a new message that still reflects the message of the first movie
such a clever idea!!
it's always frustrating when these big-budget movies can't get tight storytelling down. When there is potential, and it's missed, I almost hate it more than if this movie was 100% awful. So many interesting places this could have gone to talk about the dynamics of a family. (like Encanto, Brave - or honestly most Disney movie style)
Morgan and Sophia are half siblings not stepsiblings
I think your on to something
Will be 300% better imo
it doesn’t make sense to me that Giselle starts to “assimilate” to reality towards the end of the first movie, but 10 years later shes still “andalasian”… if that makes sense lol
I think if disenchanted focused more on giselle *losing* her spirit and becoming “newyorky” would have been interesting
I agree! After she had 10 years of life in New York, I'd expect that an ideal version of her would still keep her whimsical personality but also be very grounded and experienced. Yet in this one, she seemed very disconnected from reality and less grounded than in the first. I found myself feeling like her character was obnoxious, while I didn't feel that way in the first. Perhaps old habits die hard, but it felt like shallow character development for her and felt confusing.
Yeah,, and the child would be the one getting curious avout the cartoon world and made the wish
I just wish they'd had Giselle become the "wicked stepmother" as a result of her own actions and life wearing her down rather than a clock chiming. Would have been a much more powerful statement about how there's a villain in all of us.
I can’t believe I’m saying this about a movie, but it may have been better with less Maya Rudolph. That way we can focus more on Giselle’s descent into villainy and her attempts to resist her new archetype.
That archetype is something I’m resisting in real life which was relatable!
Yep, completely agree. Maya was entertaining with the evil versus evil plot, but the development of Morgan and Giselle's relationship, along with screen time for the other characters suffered.
Maya could’ve been a fairy godmother to Morgan. We could’ve used that as a foil to the new evil stepmother.
@@foxroxy86 Yeah, when I think of an actress who can pull off an evil queen, Maya Rudolph is one of my last picks.
Don't get me wrong, she's great, but she has too much "mom" energy to make a character like Malvina look convincing in any way. (Nevermind that the "Real World" Malvina didn't even do anything wrong...)
Also, her character, like many others, was really too cartoony, especially for real life.
I get it, but... Really? Almost more cartoony than Giselle just landed from Andalasia in the first film 😳
i did theater with the girl who played morgan a few years ago (i was a freshman and she was a senior when we were both in sweet charity and the wedding singer) and its absolutely crazy but so exciting to see someone that i know be a leading role in a disney movie. and she so deserves it! one of the sweetest and most talented people i have met
Aww that's really cool. She seems like a lovely young woman.
Amy Adam's back must be broken from carrying the movie
well, she is the lead after all...
LMAO!
Indeed.
Yes as Amy Adams should!
Patrick Demsmy's character truly carried the movie for me(despite him barely being in it) him as a knight and shining armor is just iconic 😍
They probably decreased James Marsden's screentime because he was busy with other projects, such as the Sonic sequel or Dead to Me. Still, it would have be nice to give Edward more to do.
Nancy: Edward..?
Edward: I have to stay behind and protect the blue hedgehog
I thought he just stayed behind because we needed Morgan to be "A true Andalusian" for the final wish. And like if he was there he could have just done it.
My first thought when Edward remained in Andalasia was, "Oh, I bet James Marsden was too busy with other gigs." 😂 It didn't feel natural to the plot or the character. It also felt like a reason to include Idina Menzel more and have her sing the generic brand version of Let It Go.
I really wish the movie focused on Morgan and Giselle’s relationship. In the first film, we see Robert show her the real world and Giselle learns to love it. It would’ve been hilarious to see Giselle and Morgan both be the only“conscious” ones after Giselle’s wish. This way the movie could expand on the issues with their relationship and perhaps we could see both of them grow as individuals as they try to get the wand back.
From the trailer it made it seem like Morgan was conscious through the whole thing but I guess they didn’t wanna follow through with that for the fairytale references
I think it would have been funny if Morgan and Robert were both sucked into their fairy tale roles while still being conscious like Giselle when she switches between herself and the evil stepmother role.
You can see what they were going for. Like Morgan tries find acceptance in her new environment so her fairytale side sings a song about finding her own happiness and Robert deals with his midlife crisis by being the fairytale hero who slays dragons and ogres. Both would have been a good commentary on their individual problems and would have been funny when they switch back to their more cynical selves when things don't go well.
Also it would have been a very good source of jokes, bc Morgan is hating everything fairytale related
Imagine her trying not to sing or follow a dance but having to bc the magic has her do it
LOUDER!! it would be an easy fix to just have Morgan sneak back out and head back to New York when Giselle makes the wish on Monroeville so Morgan wouldn't be affected!
@@welcometothemetaverse2523 AGREED. It felt kinda off for me and i didn't know why. Now i now
Seems like Disenchanted has a lot of potential. We can see here how the character of Giselle has drastically evolved. Seems like Enchanted will always remain as one Disney's greatest live action movies.
the way they took every speck of ambition from giselle…what feels like her whole personality….like why didn’t she made a single dress? we didn’t see the dress shop she made…we only see her buy her dresses idk it was such a big part of the original movie
Yeah, it was really strange that they didn't say a word about her fashion business or what happened to it. Her character lacked depth. Like, what had she been doing for the last 10 years?
Even though they recast the actress playing Morgan, I like that they had Rachel Covey, AKA the original Morgan, cameo as a girl from Monrolasia who reminds Giselle of the festival. At least there's no hard feelings about the recasting.
It's the same Morgan, though? Who was recast?
@@Kyosumari Rachel Covey played Morgan in the original movie, when she was about nine. Gabriella Baldacchino plays her in the sequel, and she's three years younger than Covey.
@@trinaq Oh, cause I was liked they lucked out on her being able to sing since she wasn't needed to in the original.
There were definitely probably hard feelings lmao
Wait, what? Is it not the same girl? I was so excited thinking it was the same little girl grown up after all this time. Regardless of who it is, I think she played Morgan wonderfully and really stood her ground sharing the screen with no less than Amy Adams!!!
My issue is the town already looked too cartoony, instead of more grounded and realistic. Also it would have been a good dynamic for Giselle and Morgan to show how the Disney personality can be out grown for teenagers, and how Giselle needs to adapt her Disney life not suiting children as they age, feeling much more realistic.
Hi- it was filmed in a real town in Ireland (Enniskerry). The only artificial piece added was Giselle’s pink house
I thought it was cute for what it was but ultimately I didn’t truly care for it. However I will say I loved Giselle’s peacock dress and I’ve been singing “Badder” (the only memorable song in my opinion) for the past few days.
badder was definitely the only memorable/enjoyable song in the movie
I agree, the other songs are just very unmemorable! Badder is good and is the only song that I can remember!
@@gdaym8y "Love Power" was okay because Idina Menzel was literally giving all she had.
It would've been terrible otherwise.
they premise of giselle turning into the evil stepmother was perfect, but the execution and overall movie left us wanting more.
they should have made Morgan the one wanting everything to be perfect and make a wish coz she grew up with stories of this actual place that exists that’s magical…also how Morgan was as a kid was very girly and whimsical and then they took that all away…I hate the way they told us what happened in the beginning instead of showing us their life which would have been more interesting
Yeah, I get the storybook opening but the beginning felt off because we never actually saw their life.
They should have used Cinderella a twist in time as inspiration. Like they didn’t change much of the plot or scenario they stuck to the formula without straying too far from the path
That was the first thing I thought of when the plot was revealed for this movie
I feel like they could've made it more modern by first not making Morgan a spoiled brat, i get moving isn't the best but her room was so cool and she doesn't have to share with her sister. since she's technically gen z i feel like the other girls would've liked her outfit and become friends with her like that.
That’s what I was saying the whole time 😭 like it’s very cottagecore they woulda ate that dress up
as gen z i can confirm
I was thinking this while watching the movie too😭
I think she was justified in being a little pissed about having to move from a big city to the suburbs during high school years. Specially since the movie didn't give a good reason for that besides "Giselle wanted to". Also, teenagers aren't known for being super racional and understanding. She was giving her best in accepting the situation. For example, she could have hidden that she liked her room just to make Giselle feel bad, but she didn't.
As someone who used to move a lot as a child, I fully understand where she's coming from. Especially if her first move is at that age. Being dragged away from your friends and everything you know is extremely difficult. Her reaction makes sense to me. My most difficult move was when I was 12 too.
Okay so I did watch this movie and immediately after I went into my notes and wrote what could have been a better plot:
What if Morgan decided to go to Andelasia instead? Here me out. Keep the baby, have them move to Monroeville, but make it seem like she feels like the black sheep in the family, so she goes back to new york to find the pothole and have her go to Andelasia to live the fairytale life she had always heard Giselle talk about. Giselle and Robert realize what happens and so they try to find her. That way we could see more of the animated world Giselle came from and explore the world she left behind.
love this!
Interesting! Though, very similar to The Little Mermaid 2. I also didn’t like the new animation in the sequel. Disney fired most of their original 2D animators.
@@itsQUINNderful bastards. 2d made them. Though the little mermaid 2 was pretty bad from what I remember.
@@itsQUINNderful yeah the new animation is just so stiff and wonky. The old one had so much life to it.
After being in New York and in business I think I’d be more interesting if Giselle lost her fairy tale touch.
Focusing on more practical and being more cynical about fairy tales.
Maybe refusing to tell Morgan any fairy tales or consume any type of fairy tale merchandise because your world doesn’t work that way. I mean I’ve known a lot of younger kids who are teenagers still into the Disney fairy tale stuff.
I think it would have worked if they went in the opposite direction with Giselle and Morgan.
A much smaller point is that Giselle still breaks into song. When at the end of the first movie she stops singing which is a pointed out by Edward as she's integrated into real life. Disenchanted lacks the overall atmosphere, character quirks/growth, and quality that the first movie has. A nostalgia ride.
Hi! I get what you mean.
I thought Giselle was breaking into song was because she was feeling depressed and homesick, so she was trying to cheer herself up. But Morgan said something in the movie like she does it often. So I am a little confused.
I thought Morgan’s scene when she was walking through town singing her ‘I want’ song was very belle - like, especially with the baker etc
Yes. They made a lot of other Disney cameos in this movie
Yep, probably one of my favorite parts of the movie. Especially with the Little Mermaid Easter egg in the song's climax
Actually I think even Giselle and Pip's death scenes were pretty much a BATB reference too
My son said “why did they make Cinderella mean?” 😂 they borrowed from a bunch of fairytales.
“Part of the problem is that is feels like a bunch of ideas mashed together.” EXACTLY.
I would've preferred it if the Mother/Daughter strain wasn't between Giselle and Morgan, but instead Giselle and Sofia. The time between Enchanted and Disenchanted is actually 15 years, so realistically, Morgan would be in college, and Sofia would be late middle school/early high school. Sofia wasn't in the original, so her having a jaded personality would make FAR more sense than Morgan being one, since she's a new character and can be whatever they want her to be. Maybe instead of Giselle becoming an evil stepmother, she finds out that at the last stroke of 12, when her wish becomes permanent, she's going to die, because she's the mother of a beautiful young girl in a fairy tale land, and what are mothers of beautiful young girls in fairy tales? Dead.
Omg that’s so much more interesting !!!!
One thing I didn't understand was why she still feels a need to sing. The first film made a point of her not joining in with Edward when he comes for her as she becomes more accustomed to life in the real world. Why after so long away from her world is she not less excitable and just acting like more if a normal human being? I think it would have been better if Morgan had made the wish and what ever it was brought back the old excitable Giselle.
Your so right in it being a huge mish mash of ideas, so annoying because I was really looking forward to this movie 😭
Hi! I get what you mean.
•I thought Giselle was breaking into song was because she was feeling depressed and homesick, so she was trying to cheer herself up. But Morgan said something in the movie like she does it often. So I am a little confused.
•Also, I like your idea of Morgan making the wish and the spell making Giselle acting like her old self.
•Honestly can someone please write a fanfic about this.
I love that the Art Nouveau Influences which is what the inspiration of The First Movie was still very prominent love seeing it!💘
What I really loved from the Disenchanted movie was the fact that the soundtrack really made you feel that you were in a fairy tale. Also, the beautiful moral of the movie which was that even though a woman didn't give you birth, if she raised you, she is your mom. I loved it.
I actually enjoyed Giselle switching from good and evil because it shows that she is fighting this new version of herself that was caught in a curse, her true personality tries to preserver.
I think it would’ve been more interesting if Malvina was the true villain all along and not someone made out to be a villain by circumstance due to Giselle’s wish. When I first watched the trailer and teasers, I thought Malvina was always evil to begin with, seeking after the Wand’s magic. I even theorised that she could’ve been Narissa’s sister, out for Giselle’s blood for killing her. I do love Disenchanted, but there were weak moments in the pacing, character progression and story.
Yeah, from the trailer, I actually though Malvina gave Giselle the wand and tricked her into making her wish so Andalasia would be destroyed
Ok but Malvina being Narissas sister or cousin would have be an EPIC plot twist
@@warriorKatsK Same
I didn't hate it, I really liked the concept but the execution could have been better. Also the music was kind of a let-down for me, cause the songs from the first movie were so instantly catchy and iconic and are some of my favorite Disney songs in general. In this one, I thought the villain song stood out as quite fun but everything else was kinda... eh. Which is surprising considering they were written by the same people.
I had the same feeling watching the film! I felt there were too many songs back to back when the original had three numbers and with some spacing between them that let them breathe nicely
@@DanielaMartinez-wt6ir I don't mind that it had too many songs, I like movie musicals that have a lot of singing. I just think the songs themselves were underwhelming and could've been better/more unique. Most of them blended together
totally agree! it was a very cool concept and i had some fun watching it but it's not something i want to rewatch over and over again like the first movie. the villain song was very fun :)
I didn’t think the sequel was that bad imo. But yeah I still see its flaws. The problems I had with the movie though was how some characters like Robert, Edward, and Tyson didn’t really do much. They were just there. I also felt like Malvina was kinda pointless. Like she was just evil for the sake of being evil. I was legit hoping there would be a plot twist that she would be from Andalasia or something. Come to think of it, what if Malvina actually tempted Morgan to make the wish, and ends up tricking her to help with her ulterior motives? I also feel like it could’ve been better if we learned more about Andalasia as well. But yeah that’s just my opinion.
If you ask me, they should’ve shortened the runtime to 90 minutes cutting out some boring songs and Robert’s subplot entirely cuz it ruins the pacing
The fact that they turned Monroeville into a fairy tale making everyone a trope made me think "Do people in Andalasia even have free will, or are they just forced to live out tropes?"
Another reference was Gisele almost copying verbatim what the wicked step mother in Cinderella when she can’t go to the ball. She says: “Do them again! And don't forget the garden. Then scrub the terrace, sweep the halls and the stairs, clean the chimneys. And of course there's the mending and the sewing and the laundry.”
My family and I had the hardest time actually getting through this sequel. The loss of the character growth and relationship dynamics of the first one, which should have been the basis or spring board for this continuation, completely killed it for me. It genuinely felt like someone at the conception of this either knew only the basics of the first movie or went "you remember where they ended up? Toss it out".
That basically sums up Disenchanted
Tbh I normally have a lot of problems with the Disney sequels and remakes, but this one was just so camp and fun to watch that I didn’t mind the plot problems. My three biggest problems were Pip (ugh), the overblown use of Idina Menzel (I mean, I get that you need to use her voice, but the whole “Love, Power” song felt so forced I was rolling my eyes the whole time), and Giselle’s first outfit (I cannot even describe the rage at using the exact same fabric for the dress and cardigan but having the cardigan be light pink instead of white. It was so odd and I couldn’t stop trying to find any difference between the patterns to justify the clothes). But honestly I feel like Amy Adams was born to be an over the top, fabulous villain. She completely killed the role and even if the writing was lacking at points, her performance brought me so much delight I didn’t even care!!
My feelings exactly. I loved the campy aspects of it but who thought the phrase “LOOOOOVE POWERRRRRRR” was a good idea 😖
I think they noticed how popular her song from frozen became they tried to recreate it with another belting song hoping to reignite that same hype flame
I don't think your opinion about "Love Power" is a popular one....
thank goodness, i thought i was the only one who thought "love power" was so cheesy
I don’t know if this is a reference but when Giselle said “I wish.”
Reminded me of the Into The Woods Musical where Cinderella along with the rest of the fairytale characters say “I wish.”
It's such a shame Giselle is not marketed in the princess line, because she was always one of my favorites growing up 😪 she seems very forgotten by the majority of disney princess fans
Does she even count as a princess since she never married a prince. (Mulan counts since Disney needed her dress design for something years ago…read it somewhere)
@@aylin7716 yeah disney is just to cheap to pay for using her likeness so no merch or giselle 😭 (so put up with Disney's trashy films lately just give us a new animated movie omg)
I thought her first dress in the fantasy was trying to mimic her blue dress in the original movie with the opening
I also really appreciated how the first film only had a few musical numbers which really added to the story and were used to make a commentary on the plot, serving as a comparison of the real and fairytale worlds. The sequel had waaaay too many songs, It made the good ones less impactful, the run time way too long, and were kinda just annoying. The first film had musical numbers but I wouldn't have considered it a musical. This was a full fledged musical and most of the songs were boring. I think it would have made more sense and been more impactful if the first musical number came when Giselle's wish came true, signifying how Monroeville had now transformed into a fairytale.
I audibly gasped when I heard Anastasia was recently acquired by Disney 😱
Yeah, "recently" as in March 2019, Along with all the 21st century fox stuff.
@@kyokugo6460 Can't be expected to keep up with all the news during a worldwide pandemic 🤷
But thanks for the info 😉
@@maryam.m In many places it was very scandalous tho, Disney Buys Marvel and then Fox 😱😱... Although I didn't mean it in a bad way, I mean is still recent. 2019 was just some years ago. Yet, Disney has been in discussions for an Anastasia sequel. I am probably more into showbiz lol. Sorry if you felt offended tho😖😓
@darkshadowlynn Only because I haven't been socializing enough since the pandemic for news about Disney's acquisitions (whether new or old) to come up in casual conversation with friends - hence my continued ignorance for the past few years after missing the initial buzz.
@@kyokugo6460 No offense taken! I was probably occupied with other things at the time, and I appreciated your clarification.
I love Anastasia and don't think it requires a sequel, and knowing Disney's track record with sequels and remakes, I'm not very optimistic haha 😅
I wanted the character to be aware that they are in a fairytale and be confused about it. Involuntary singing and all. In this movie they just became completely different characters. There is a penguins of Madagascar episode that does it better.
Like teen beach movie 😭
wow I so agree with you on many points! I also like the movie. Your idea about making baby daughter of Giselle a closer age to Morgan can be soo cool. Because in that case Sofia made a wish using a magic wand because she wants to be in a fantasy land where everything is perfect since she's never experience that and she is young and naive to understand the consequences. So Giselle (who actually got used to living in a normal world) suddenly is turned into evil stepmother and she is not in control over the situation at all. At the end is Morgan who saves the day by believing that she is a true Andalasian and has magic because she believes in it, regardless her being born in real world of Nyc.
Fun fact: the screening test for Disenchanted is so bad they ended up reshooting a lot for the movie.. ppl said it's even worse than Marvel movies' reshoots.. it's bc the audience hate it so much since it's not what they're expecting after years & years waiting for the sequel... can u imagine if they didn't do the screening test? even after reshoots and changes it's still quite bad/cliche.. it really doesn't live up to the first movie tbh.. The only good/interesting part of the movie is when Giselle turning bad & Idina Menzel's "Love Power" song lol
While the movie has flaws, it's clear that there might have been a movie version of when "Spore" was released.
FYI, Spore was hyped up for a while too and when it finally released people were disappointed.
I think there are a few references to Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella, too. The village dance portion of "Fairy Tale Life" resembles the "Prince Is Giving A Ball" sequence from the 90s version. Morgan and Tyson meeting at the market is also similar to Cinderella's meet-cute with the prince in the '90s version. Ann Harada's casting also seems to be a joke on her being one of the stepsisters in the Broadway version.
Disney's apparently making a fourth Descendants movie with Brandy reprising Cinderella, so clearly someone's got that on the brain.
I really liked the idea that Giselle was turning into a wicked stepmother, but I thought that, instead of wishing their problems away they were going to subvert the idea that all stepmother’s are evil, and by having her break free of the curse because of her love for both of her daughters including her step daughter
The idea that in a fairytale stepmothers are evil is bad messaging lol
I thought the sequel is going to about Giselle being homesick. Wanting Andalasia combine together in the real world.
In this sequel, it got a lot of unnecessary filler, Teenage cliches, Morgan being a edgy teenager (which not all teenagers are edgy or gloomy) being cartoony in human world, and the story was rushed. In that scene, where Morgan was being bullied for wearing her mother clothes is not true. Me and some girl wear that style and no one said anything about it.
my biggest gripe with some hollywood writers is that they seem to never have actually interacted with today's teens... like i promise you teenagers nowadays dont even care about what someone is wearing at school
You can make a character do the most outrageous things but if you slap the label "teen" on them suddenly it's totally something they'd do.
i personally really liked the sequel as i enjoyed the twist of giselle being an evil-stepmother which she would be due to fairytales portraying them like that, however the two downsides of the sequel are the songs (not as boppy or as good in my opinion) and the original actress of morgan didn’t reprise her role
The actress that played morgan is tge originl actress
@@Lizzybaby3000 They are two different actresses. The original Morgan played by Rachel Covey she has a cameo in Disenchanted. She is the Monroloasian girl who reminds of Giselle about the festival.
The new Morgan played by Gabriella Baldacchino. She has a beautiful and amazing voice.
These two actresses looks very similar to each other. So you can’t tell the difference.
The original Morgan not reprising her role wasn't a factor for me. The new one was fantastic in her role, looks a lot like the old one, and had chemistry with the original cast. And the original has a cameo! As you said, the songs lacked the classic Disney earworm, which was a big one for me. And the script felt weak imo. I LOVED the premise, but the execution fell flat
i'd agree except for the morgan part, the actress portraying her did great
Fan fact: Robert's coworkers played by Broadway actors involved in fairytale-musicals. Michael McCorry Rose from Wicked and Anastasia, James Monroe Iglehart from Aladdin, Ann Harada from Cinderella
1 more thing. In the original Giselle becomes more 'real' than a disney character, but in the beginning of this film you can see she's back to the same disney character, its like she's gone backwards than forward. i mean let's be real, 10 years in a city really changes you, so how is Giselle literally the same as she was 10 years ago?
Hi! I get what you mean.
I thought Giselle was breaking into song was because she was feeling depressed and homesick, so she was trying to cheer herself up. But Morgan said something in the movie like she does it often. So I am a little confused.
kevin lima, the director of enchanted (and a director, animator and contributor to countless other disney classics as seen in his filmography), did not come back to direct disenchanted (he's never explicitly stated why other than internal affairs that got him kicked from the project, which was going to be incredibly different to what we end up getting), and it shows. disenchanted is fun - but's all it is. it lacks the charm, the subversive humour, the intricacies of characters' relationships with each other, and the underlying complexities enchanted had. man, i was so excited for this sequel. i'll still give it a rewatch sometime - but it makes me appreciate just how amazing enchanted was in comparison.
I rewatched Enchanted recently and it really holds up. I was excited to see Disenchanted but it's glaring how modern Disney film making is so...messy.
Giselle's wickedness should've been developed by Giselle's real selfish and deluded desires that the magic makes her act on and descend into. When she wants everything to fall in line because she doesn't know how to handle a rebellious daughter, it could've made a realistic connection. When it's just the magic that makes her evil, it portrays it as totally out of character which doesn't give her depth or growth. Just because she made the wish isn't enough of a flaw for me.
I really liked it! Was it perfect? Nope. Could it have been executed better? Hell yeah! But it was still fun and enjoyable and a pretty decent sequel. Also the acting from everyone was great!
Hi! Your comment perfectly described how I feel about the movie.
not on topic at all but love the celty pfp
@@lenierka Ah thank you!! Love Celty and DRRR!!
The other thing to consider was the time the original film came out; by late 2007 the cinema landscape was flooded with cynical, self-aware and "hip" fractured fairy tale movies that "Shrek" popularized. Disney wasn't even doing classic Princess films, playing third fiddle to Pixar's avantgarde storytelling and DreamWorks 's "cool with the youths" movies. "Enchanted" came at the right time and the correct place as by that point people were legit missing a classic Disney fairy tale musical but the audience was still jaded by the formula. "Enchanted"! perfectly balanced that with story and characters that were a reflection of the audience's desires. It was a sincere story that mocked the tropes but also celebrated them. The characters felt genuine and even when the real world was being "real" it added to the story.
I loved "Disenchanted", but to me it was too campy and legit felt more of a parody of a Disney movie than a tribute to one. Like it's mentioned in the video, the characters prior to the curse felt like parodies of real people and before we even meet them we know EXACTLY what role they will play. And everyone when they get affected by the spell are caricatures of themselves to the point some moments were cringe.
It's not a bad movie per say as it has enough perk and charm for me to watch it as comfort viewing for when I need a break from the real world. But it does showcase why the original was such a great film, one that we legit took got granted and slept on when it first came out.
I know I rambled a lot, but am I the only one that thinks Disenchanted is Disney's "Wandavision"? You have two red-heads wishing for an ideal life based on a relic of their past so they used their powers to town a sleep suburban town into their ideal fantasy Worlds in which everyone plays a trope, and the more they are in that fantasy the more wicked they become and the more unstable the power gets. Then you have a rival that is also looking to gain that power for herself...and they even use red and purple magic. Bug difference though? Giselle's family Is VERY real and didn't have to go across the multiverse and kill people to try to find them
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What a good explanation of why Enchanted hit the mark when it was released. Mocked fairytale tropes while also celebrating them - yes!
Who caught this? When Giselle is in the market, looking good for an antidote potion to her wish, you can hear "Sugar dates, figs, and pistachios!"
Yes that line is a reference to Aladdin, where Jasmine is walking through the Marketplace
i feel like this film had so much potential and you can see glimpses of it in the writing that just get bulldozed over.
Imo the love magic spell song sounded like they asked Idina Menzel to belt her heart out in a studio for 10 minutes and added the score after. It was visually quite pretty though, I really loved the og Cinderella moment
It’s such a shame, during the whole synopsis of the plot of the sequel there was a lot there that I was saying “oh that actually sounds fun” “oh that’s a fun idea” but then the execution turned out so poorly…
The plot, good, unique and furthered the methos of the first movie, the acting was good especially with Amy Adams having to switch between roles of her regular self and the Evil Stepmother side, the production design was incredible and really gave you the feel for an old school Disney fairy tale, and the songs were great, well composed, super catchy and beautifully sung.
What the movie lacked was proper character development and pacing. Other than Giselle trying start a new chapter to recapture the idealistic life of Andalasia that she is homesick for, while also trying to be a good stepmother, everybody else has a little purpose. I get Morgan being a moody teen and not wanting to move, but we don't get to see enough of her school life to justify her resentment of Giselle. I also kinda get Robert is going through a midlife crisis, but they don't expand on it enough to have me care. Even the way the film just kind of throws stuff at you without letting the mood set in, like when Morgan blows up and Giselle and it sends Giselle into her next song about what she wishes for. If they would have given us a a moment to absorb the emotion, I wouldn't have growned when she started singing, like "Are we doing another song?!" And I hated feeling that way because this is a legitimate good song and it is what kicks the main plot into high gear.
Then everything's a fairy tale and as cute as it is, Robert Morgan and Robert are now not themselves, but fairy tale representations of themselves for most of the movie. Giselle becoming an evil stepmother from the trope of her fairy tale life she wished for is the only interesting plot thread with once again Amy Adams flawlessly playing both sides. But with little stakes to help the story go anywhere.
I felt that both Morgan and Robert did have some elements of their original personality in there, with Morgan still feeling like an outsider and Robert trying to prove himself as somebody extraordinary during his midlife crisis. But just like with Morgan we only see doses of her life in high school, that her life in the fairy tale is also just as vague with her desires, her enemies, etc.. It would have been better if we got more detail with her school life, maybe if Morgan went back and forth from having her normal mind and her fairy tale mind like Giselle was with the stepmother role, getting sucked into the fairy tale world but also questioning it when things aren't working out. Heck, Robert trying to be heroic and then halfway questioning himself like his original more cynical self in the first movie, it'd be hilarious having him realize he's getting an over his head with things like dragon is an ogres and stuff, like "Am I really doing this?" It would have followed up on the commentary of a midlife crisis, giving his scenes more depth and the part where he saves the girl from the collapsing stand and she goes with her family, that would have been the moment he realized that his life does have meaning when he's with his family. You can see the look on his face that's what they were going for. But the way they executed, it looks like he's just imitating Prince Edward in just a bunch of random scenes that tie into nothing.
Heck, having world-building for the whole town of Monroeville before it turned into a fairy tale would have strengthened the plot all together, showing us the imperfect real world affecting the main characters and how everything is either changed for the better or worse with all the residents in it.
Overall, I think it was a fair attempt. I imagine this was hard to conceive but they gave us something that I do find legitimately entertaining and even memorable; heck, I still can't get these songs out of my head. But with the elements I've mentioned, it would have earned Disenchanted to worthy successor sequel to the original as opposed to just a mediocre attempt with a few good results.
I kinda wished Morgan was the one who wished for a fairytale life like Giselle, which ties in to the cottagecore life that had a hold on gen z. However, she did not know that Giselle stepmother was evil and that fairytales aren’t great for everyone. Perhaps she gets chased by a troll and cursed by a witch. At the end, she is in the same position as Giselle in the first movie where her stepmother turns into a monster but Morgan is unable to kill her as she knows her stepmother is actually kind and she has to find a way to solve it. It could have the message of people romanticising certain things (like the 50s, regency, renaissance) without understanding what its actually like. The sentiment of “I want to go back to that time”. I think this one is decent but the previous is superior 🤭
i wonder if they could've done an escapism theme by going into the fairytale world. like Morgan is overwhelmed at school or something, and going to Andelasia or using a wish to escape reality. idk i'm not a writer
I’m so confused. Giselle has lived with Morgan and Robert for a significant amount of time and it was implied in the first movie that she had gotten her “fairy tale ending”. In the sequel it appears that Giselle never adjusted to life beyond Andalasia. She also displays attributes that were never there in the first place. Why is she all of a sudden selfish? She was nothing but kind in the first movie. Granted she was delusional, but she should have mellowed out and learned how to function by now, right? Disney really should learn themselves not to touch old films if they are completely fine being standalones. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! I think the story is better just ending where the first movie did and leaving the audience to imagine themselves what life was like after.
I also think this movie was a victim of restructuring and refilming. They originally showed the movie and it got extremely poor reactions. So that’s why they probably decided to focus more on the nostalgia factors.
Disenchanted had glimpses of good ideas, but just fell short for me. The fantastical Monroeville felt lackluster. But I will say the costume designers still slayed, and the villain showdown song was such a bop!
25:49 ohhhh, so THATS the reason why i felt like the fashion choices of disenchanted doesn't feel related or similiar from the original film.
Tbh, everyones costume in the fairytale setting looks like what people would wear in the masquerade ball from the original film.
What happened to Giselle's fashion company that was show during end credits of the first movie?
I wish you could make an outfit review of “school or good and evil”. I feel there is a lot to talk about.
If the first movie was about the animated characters becoming live action, why couldn’t they have done the opposite in this movie and returned to animated world?
Maybe Giselle becomes upset at her life and her relationship with Morgan, like in disenchantment and instead of moving into another town maybe they take a vacation into Andalasian or straight up move there temporarily.
Instead of Giselle being a fish out of water, this could be Morgan fish out of water story. And her trying to subvert the fairy tale.
We could also have the wicked step mother trope, and we could also see how Nancy and Edward relationship works.
Maybe have Giselle missing the normal world or a “my home was different from how I remembered?” Trope.
She could be disappointed in her fairy tale life, that she wanted? And blames Morgan since she would technically be the protagonist. And not her.
But instead of realizing she’s conformed to the real world, and has different or high expectations assume Morgan is the girl to blame.
I thought they were going that route at first.
Especially since Giselle kept thinking about her kingdom. But, they probably didn't want to do too much animation.
the setting of monroeville was so strange already that i had assumed that malvina WAS a villain from andalasia or something but, nope, that apparently was "the real world"
i don't know about y'all but i for one enjoyed Disenchanted. yeah it's not as good as enchanted but it was a fun movie none the less.
GIRL YES, I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO RELEASE A VIDEO REVIEWING THIS
The only two live-action Disney movies that worked for me were _Cinderella_ (2015) and _Enchanted,_ and Disney seems to refuse to do the things that made them so wonderful. I love that you pulled the clip of Narissa saying that she sent Giselle to a place where "there are no happily-ever-afters." Giselle facing the 'real' world, adjusting while never letting it fundamentally change her nurturing and hopeful spirit, then finding that happily-ever-after in a place they supposedly don't exist, is the magic of that movie. Similarly, in _Cinderella,_ the magic was found not in focusing on making Cinderella a watered-down version of a strong man, but highlighting the gifts of a strong woman that lead to _her_ own happy ending.
The best of Disney Princesses was always in showing the _unique_ gifts and strengths of women *as* women. Animated Mulan doesn't brute-strength her way up the post carrying the weights, she shows mental flexibility and succeeds by approaching the challenge differently. Contrary to popular belief, _Beauty and the Beast_ isn't an 'I can change him' story. It's a story of the way a woman embodying archetypal feminine virtues (being kind, loving, patient, understanding, and family-oriented; without being unintelligent, uninteresting, a doormat, or accepting of bad behavior) is powerful enough to _inspire_ even the most hard-hearted beast to _want_ to be a better version of himself -- to rise up to be worthy of a woman like her. Nowadays, it seems like 'girl power' just means being a girl who's more like a man.
I can't help but wish they made Morgan aromantic coded kinda like Elsa and subvert old formula of princesses finding their love and having happily ever after tied to romance. It's nothing new at this point with Elsa and Merida but it would be cool to see how Giselle (born hopeless romantic who already had her happily ever after) reacts to her daughter in her eyes "rejecting" what she once thought was most important in life. It doesn't have to be main drama in the movie but it would work well as one of many things that drives them apart, she already calls herself "fake daughter of Andalasia” so why not make that actually visible by who she is? In the movie she's stereotypical princess really straight, skinny, girly with long hair and pastel gown at the end she just have an attitude but so have Diana or Jasmine it's not subverting anything.
It would be cool if she was this aromantic gothic girl who still loves fairytales but as a teen prefers villains over princesses idk.
You know, I'm really surprised that Giselle had a child before Nancy. Nancy and Edward got married at the end of the first movie. While I know coming from the serious world, Nancy wouldn't just jump into making babies (she was a career woman after all), as King and Queen isn't it their duty to provide heirs? Giselle and Edward was only dating at the end of the first movie...has 10 years not passed in Andalasia too?
Edit: lol, Just realised I said Giselle and Edward instead of Giselle and...and...McDreamy guy
watching ur reviews before the actual movie/tv show so i know if it’s worth my time or not. thanks girlie ur a life saver
Ok i totally agree with making the child older not only could they have played into the relationship between the two sisters. But they could also play into the step-mother step-sister vibes like in Cinderella. Where it plays into Morgan's view as Giselle liking her daughter more than Morgan.
i really loved the movie, as a fan of the original, but i can see why it might not be others cup of tea. it can’t compare to the original, but i still loved it.
I see many comments talking about how Morgan being the main character would have saved the movie and I frankly don't understand it. I'm tired of daughters stealing the original female protagonists roles in bad Disney sequels, in the Melody and Jane Darling fashion. Morgan was very bland and harmless in the end as a character in this and still she was so annoying to me, I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if she was stealing the main role. Giselle is the truly heart of the original movie and the only character that was kinda present in the collective memory until now (I would mention maybe Edward but generally nobody knows who he is, let's be honest). Giselle and Amy Adams are the soul of Enchanted.
So no, if a sequel for Enchanted was meant to be of course it had to focus on Giselle, absolutely nobody would have cared for a sequel with Morgan leaving her stepmother with 15 min of screentime.
Morgan is main caracter.
The movie is about Morgan's reaction to the baby. After visit from Nancy and Edvard bringing magic wand to the baby, "that can only be used by real dauther of farytale land", Morgan stops reffering to Giselle as mother and angrily calls her hers step mother. Giselle is sadenned by it and makes a wish. Which causes her to become evil step-mother (as Morgan started to see the situation irl.) The ending is about Giselle adressing Morgan's hurt, claiming her as the real dauther so Morgan can save everyone with magic wand. And she's back to calling her mum again.
Underneat all that glitter,
It was just about teenager adopting to changes of having new sibling and moving to new town.
@@DodirAnelaIntuitivnoOtvaranje Morgan is not technically the main character. She's the narrative excuse to make Giselle commit mistakes and take decisions. Morgan is a very basic teen character without a lot of agency since she doesn't even keep her real personality in the fairytale town, and it's a prompt to show us disney character traits that Giselle can't cover anymore (young, falling in love, attending a ball, dancing and singing around, getting a gown, animated segment) because she's a motherly figure now. In the end Morgan little agency is about... maybe escaping from her tower? Aside that everything she does is following instructions and being in danger. Giselle is the main character because she's the one whose actions make the plot move. We start the movie with her and we end the movie with her. I would even say Nancy is more of a main character in a way than Morgan because her actions are more important in providing the necessary magic and guiding Morgan.
In summary the plot is not about Morgan reaching good terms with Giselle but the opposite, Giselle fixing her relationship with her daughter.
I agree that daughters don't have to take the main role in sequels! Although I was confused by how unadjusted Giselle seemed after 10 years and thought her character was more shallow in this one, I found it refreshing that they still kept her as the main person. I agree that she is the heart of Enchanted. Storylines can be about young women but don't always need to be - life goes on 10 years later and there should still be stories to tell in that complexity.
Something so unique about Enchanted is that Giselle brought the fairytale magic to New York (in scenes like That’s How You Know and the cleaning montage) while also becoming more human herself. She transformed the world around her and made it more optimistic/magical while the world gave her more depth. So why would she have to wish for a fairytale life when she makes her setting fairytale like wherever she goes? Overall not explained well and a major plot hole that makes the whole sequel pointless.
I prefer the original one, a lot of y'all says it was rush it's because it is. I watched one of their interviews saying the first preview wasn't a huge success, resulting in them to reshoot real quick because they have to follow the release schedule.
In The clothing Store there is even katherine howard's red dress from tudors, next to princesses' dresses.
They should've made Sofia maybe 12? and Morgan 18, or even 10 and 16, it would've made a lot more sense, and it would've given them more creative freedom with the plot.
I literally just finished watching this with my family and I just KNEW that you’d add your expertise into this. Thank you, your majesty 🙇
How did I not know enchanted had a sequel before this video??
It was just released last Friday via Disney Plus, so it's fairly recent.
My favorite costume has got to be the peacock dress
Yes I liked that dress too, the peacock dress Giselle wore reminded me of Barbie the Island Princess Movie peacock dress.
@@wonderlucky1912 i was thinking of the exact same thing!!
"I know Disney is busy with their 100th Marvel spin off" 🤣 💯
As always, you gave an insightful analysis and offer solid suggestions. Do you think subversions of tropes have now been overused? I am starting to think that way. It feels like this new generation is more familiar with the subversions than the original. I would love them to go back to the classics to show modern audiences WHY they are classics.
I liked the idea of what Disenchanted was going for but I would have liked it even better if it was still set in New York. Giselle is trying to find her way and fit in with everyone else, while running her fashion store. Morgan sees Giselle stuggling and realizes she isn't too happy with her life either and remembers all those fairy tale stories Giselle told her growing up and so she makes the wish with the wand for a fairytale life. (I liked the idea of Nancy and Edward giving Giselle the wand but only have them give it to her like on her birthday or something) .
Anyway, on the FIRST day, Morgan is the main character of a fairytale life and Robert and Giselle are now evil parents and rulers of New York City. But Morgan doesn't really notice yet (since she's too busy having fun and is was what she dreamed about) until the SECOND day. Morgan begins to notice her parents are now evil and want to expand their power all over the globe besides New York.
Also Nerissa returns and wanted to kill Giselle and Robert but doesn't because she likes the new evil them and gives them the idea of expanding their power. (So basically not ONLY did the wand give Morgan her wish but it also brought back Nerissa.)
Anyway, Morgan is freaking out and goes to Andalusia to find Edward and Nancy for help. The two then remind Morgan that the wish can ONLY being undone by the one who made the wish but ONLY after the stroke of midnight on the THIRD day. After the third day the spell will be permanent.
So, together the five of them ( pip included) go to the Real World and try to find the wand. Only to figure out that Nerissa had the wand the whole time after she was revived. But, Nancy comes up with a plan to start a rebellion with the citizens as a distraction for her and Morgan and Pip to get the wand and break the curse.
Anyway on the THIRD day/night the rebellion attacks. Robert and his evil forces retaliat. (Robot and Edward kind of have this funny show down or battle together lol).
Nerissa and evil Giselle are watching the fight but notice that Nancy and Morgan and Pip are going in a different direction then the rebels. So, Nerissa gets suspicious.
When Morgan and Nancy finally reach where the wand is being held, Giselle is already there. Protecting it.
Giselle starts attacking Nancy and Morgan with the wands powers, all the while, Morgan tries to reach her mother. Telling her that she did this for her to be happy. For them to be happy and a family.
Morgan's words almost work because Giselle kind of
"glitches" between being her old self and new evil self.
Meanwhile, during their fight, Edward is able to remind Robert of his good self and the two stop fighting and go help Morgan and Nancy. On the way there, Edward fills in Robert on everything that's happened far.
While Giselle is physically and emotionally fighting this new evil side of herself, she tries to hand Morgan the wand but Nerissa comes in at the last second and manipulats Giselle to embrace the darkness and if no one is going to allow her to fit in or " have a seat at the table" then she has to take it by force.
So Giselle embrace the darkness and gives Nerissa the wand. But Edward and Robert come in and tackle Nerissa and the wand goes flying to Nancy (and at this point it kind of like hot potato or "keep away.")
Morgan is then able to get her hands on the wand and tries to make the wish but Nerissa blast her with magic and uses her magic to freeze Nancy and Edward and Pip and Robert in time while, she takes the wand and breaks it.
With this being done Robert snaps back to becoming evil. And the time freezeing spell stops.
Nancy and Edward and Pip then come up with a plan to stop the Clock tower from reaching midnight (bc I liked the whole idea of a clock tower).
But while Nancy and Edward and Pip are trying to stop the tower Robert follows them and tries to stop their plan.
Meanwhile, evil Giselle glance out the window at the battle and smiles because she's happy about what is being done.
Nerissa goes on to have villan monologue about how all she wanted was power and she never really fit in and wasn't happy with her life like Giselle and Morgan until she got that power and the crown.
But, Morgan thinking all hope is lost suddenly realizes why the clock is not striking midnight and that Nancy and Edward are buying her some time to undo the curse.
So, Morgan takes the pieces of the wand while dodging magic blast from Nerissa and glances at her mother and wishes for everything to go back to the way it was.
Then, everything is as it was before. Robert doesn't remember anything and thinks it was all a dream. Nerissa dies, again. Morgan and Giselle and the others all remember everything so clearly because they are true daughters and son of Andalusia.
Morgan talks to Giselle telling her, she just wanted giselle and their family to be happy and be like a everyone else. But Giselle tells her no. She's fine right where she is and the two realize they don't need to be like everybody else. That life is too short and too complicated to be worried about being liked by everyone else or "getting a seat at the table". And they two should have realized it all along and they have each other and that should be the only thing that makes them happy. (I know it sounds cheesie or cringe but I like that idea).
Nancy and Edward and Pip come to visit and try to explain to Robert, with Giselle and Morgan, what the happened in his dream, ACTUALLY happened.
THE END.....