Sometimes you watch deleted scenes and think "aw man, that wouldve been cool to add, oh that makes sense!" Rarely do you see a bunch of deleted scenes and think "oh so theres the movie"
I think we can infer who won the "Corporate cynicism not wanting to take any risks vs the creative drive of a team of talented, non-unionized artists" battle here
They could have had their cake and ate it too with Starboy. Make him have his human form at night when he shines brightest or whatever, and then have the chibi marketable plushie version during the day when he is conserving power. Then you could keep a lot of the chemistry and humor with their interactions and have the design that kids will love and buy merch of.
That's the thing. Being a corrupted capitalist is one thing and being a STUPID corrupted capitalist is another. NOBODY would've been dissatisfied with this choice, people wouldn't even see the marketable plushie as Disney being greedy and buy more of them to have their own starboy
It's really sad when you think Suzume did a verrry similar thing just a few months prior with Souta and the chair. It had been PROVEN to work as a formula!
Starboy could have been Disney's ROTG Jack Frost but they decided to throw that away for ROTG Sandman and I don't really know why. It's so disappointing.
Asha and Starboy’s romance could have been a PERFECT callback to Disney’s classic true love’s kiss trope. But no we had have a plushie with Mickey’s face…
@@CarrieTooTired i honestly wanted and expected magnifico to be freed from the curse with a true love's kiss by the queen, like in the beauty and the beast 😭
It's crazy that they had a problem with star boy being do much like genie yet they didn't have a problem of ripping off Nintendo with the Lumas especially the fact it's literally released the same year as the Mario Movie
How Disney see the problem in DISNEY CHARACTER being similiar to ANOTHER DISNEY CHARACTER? Like I could understand if they worried Star Boy is to similiar to Jack Frost because he is from another rival studio, but Genie? Wth Disney?
Disney has developed an allergy to romance. They haven't made a proper love story since Tangled 14 years ago. Not every movie needs a romance, but goddamn, i am starving for a warm fuzzy Disney love story.
@@b1_1nnies sure, it can be great without it, but it also can be great *with* it. If the time duration between now and the last time we had a fuzzy Disney romance is twice the age of the intended audience, there's something wrong. OP didn't say "all Disney movies have to be classic romances from now on", they literally just said they wish to have even just one.
@@jessip8654 Of all the terrible things of recent Disney movies, obnoxiously overdone and widespread romance is what you yearn for more of? How about no.
Tbh i think they should've made ashas arc like a reversal of tianas, where tiana had to learn that she could rely on other people, asha has to learn to rely on herself. Instead of relying on magnifico to make her and her loved ones' wishes come true, she learns that she can strive to make them come true on her own
I can definitely see that as an arc 💕 It’s a pretty good lesson and plays into Magnifico’s reliance on magic!! As James would say “…that old star can only take you part of the way. You got to help him with some hard work of your own. And then... Yeah, you can do anything you set you mind to.”
@@CarrieTooTired Imagine having such a good message in that film, only to completely miss it so badly here. I feel like Disney is offensively trying to pander to Gen Alpha, who they assume are lazy, entitled, spoiled, whiny brats who have never seen a single day of strife, want everything handed to them, and don't understand the meaning of earning something. Just like Asha. Asha is literally how Disney sees its target audience, and that really makes me angry.
Disney taking away a love story because woman can't rely on man while making a young girl rely on a much older man to get her grampa's wish 😐 A man who could you know? Take full advantage of her because she trust him so much
If only they kept star's ability to shape shift, they could have squeezed in so much more easter eggs from previous disney films like animal characters, etc.
It's crazy that they had a problem with star boy being do much like genie yet they didn't have a problem of ripping off Nintendo with the Lumas especially the fact it's literally released the same year as the Mario Movie
"What can we ever do to repay you, Star?" (Star turns directly to the camera and speaks for the first time in the movie) "Purchase Disney products!" (everyone cheers and claps)
@@PlatinumAltaria honestly the answer feels like a slap in the face to Disney’s audience “Just keep wishing” Kinda like a dream on response to what their audience actually wants. Its pretty hilarious yet sad how large Starboy’s fanbase is comparison to Wish itself
His reason is also logical, do you really want to grant every wish? Do the writers know not every wish is good? What if somebody wish for a genocide/war? 🤔
yeah, there was nothing about his system that was a cover for his selfish desires. maybe wishes can be done by others but he gatekeeps it to get all the attention? maybe he made a sacrifice or thinks he did and believes everyone should be grateful without asking. maybe he keeps the star captured and pretends it's his magic. so many possibilities
It should've been so simple making him a "true old school Disney villain". Just make him grant wishes that make his status and kingdom better. Planning an invasion of his original home, being the thief that destroyed it but was stopped. How hard is it to be Jack Horner or Jafar?! Jafar has no motivation, no backstory, nothing. He just wants power and yet he's one of the most memorable and enjoyable villains despite being very one note.
Wish is the PERFECT example of creative people trying to make something genuinely amazing, but then the business people in suits who's thoughts only consist of money and narcicism come in and ruin the whole thing 'cause they're the ones with all the decision-power
You know you f*ucked up when you could’ve had a love interest AND a marketable plushie, they’re not mutually exclusive all Disney renaissance movies have both- but instead we got a corporate mute sidekick and an annoying useless sidekick 💀, With them being non-human and her friends and family being as shallow as a puddle it seems Asha has no relationships going on WHATSOEVER 😂
Also, if they were so afraid to give their strong female protagonist a love interest again, then why not have them be the best of friends. We need more platonic relationships between boys and girls expressed in animated movies. They can be soulmates, like people with twin souls, that are meant to be. I mean, especially if he is supposed to represent her wish, he's like a part of her soul.
@@brendathevehicon because the city IS empty in many of the scenes where the main characters aren’t at the center of, giving this feeling that the world of Wish revolves around a small group of people. If Asha sings a song about herself instead of Rosas, there’s no need for villagers to hang around doing daily chores as they’re just visual flare, compared to the city life in Rapunzel yes, Rosas is like a “cuckoo clock kingdom” where life is seen only at certain times. You’re not alone 😭😭
The power of friendship saved the day, and rapunzel magic tears healed Flynn, and-and all the pokemon's crying saved Ash Ketchum (I don't like that trope)
@@monoduck I love the magic of friendship trope, but only when it's done RIGHT. In MLP it's kinda the point for obvious reasons, but in other shows it often gets corny and cheesy, not to mention an ass pull.
@@nervousbreakdown711 I kept hearing that play between sections and thought it was from some SNL sketch making fun of the movie 😭 Not actual lyrics from the movie!
it baffles me that they cut starboy because he was "too close to genie" like you'd think that wouldn't be a bad thing in a movie that's literally filled with references to other disney movies
So you’re telling me that this movie has 7 shoehorned-in best friends to directly reference the 7 dwarves and countless other deliberate references to established Disney characters, and Starboy being too much like Genie was just unacceptable for some reason?
@@DmitriDish for real though. It makes me so upset and it feels like something was stolen from me. We need a petition for Disney to remake it AS IT SHOULDVE BEEN MADE
Man, seeing the deleted scenes made me straight up sad because how good and much potential they showed. I wanted THAT movie! I wanted Starboy, a main lead who isn't another 'uwu quirky girl', a villain couple, a final act with the villain turning into a monster! Seriously, I wanna slap the person who stepped in and was like, "Nah, let's strip all that away and instead make it generic as hell.'
Dude, same! The idea of a love story with a shapeshifting Jack Frost looking starboy would’ve been such a huge hit among the young crowd, but noooo! Hell, they would’ve been able to sell those dumb plushies better had they still have starboy! This could’ve been a love story that was on the same level as Tangled. Corporate meddling had to ruin everything! 🙃
YEAH!! To be honest, I think it's valid of Disney to be moving away from romance being the main focus of their films. But since Wish is meant to be a homage to the classic Disney movies then THEY SHOULD'VE ADDED THE ROMANCE!!! Starboy seemed like he would've been a pretty fun character and I would've loved to see his dynamic with the more timid Asha. THEIR RELATIONSHIP COULD'VE BEEN SO CUTE DISNEY WHY 😭😭😭
Asha says “if the wishes are bad we can stop them” but there’s never a moment where the wishes aren’t portrayed as the best and most magical thing in the world, and there’s never a moment where she gets challenged on her beliefs, where someone says that they got their wish granted, but realized that they didn’t need it to be happy
Fr nobody in this movie learned anything during the course of this. There was an amazing setup for Cynicism and laziness ruining the pure idealism Magnifico once had. Instead we got 'I love magic because it gives me stuff then I can give you stuff too!' which is literally how Magnifico got where he was in the first place!
They should've used that to teach her a lesson tbh. At first she thinks everyone deserves their wish and turns against Magnifico thinking he's in the wrong by being selective but then realizes after granting all the wishes that he was right, the kingdom is a mess because most of the wishes are rubbish or even harmful, people are unhappy, etc. At that point she has to ask for Magnifico's help to fix what she caused and learns that you have to be careful what you wish for or someting like that
@lunalluna9401 That would have made a lot more sense. Magnifico is shown to be cautious about the types of wishes he grants and concerned about unintended consequences. There is probably a reason for that. Magnifico is a powerful sorcerer who earned his magic through rigorous study and who has been granting wishes for generations while ruling over a utopian kingdom he built from the ground up. Asha, the 17 year old girl who grew up in the kingdom Magnifico built, doesn't even consider the possibility that he might know what he's talking about. It should have been a lesson in humility. Something similar to the sorcerer's apprentice.
@@lunalluna9401 A good film would have taught both of them something. She is clearly not being selective enough but perhaps Magnifico is being a little too selective. Perhaps paranoia, or just time cause he's also the king. Her mistake makes things better for 5 seconds before spiraling down. She changes her mind and agrees with his idea in being selective, but perhaps pulls one thing out of her attempt that she did right, which Magnifico acknowledges. Maybe he should get multiple apprentices so there is enough time to parse wishes and give people a second chance in a few years or smtn. Hell they could go for fan service and make one of those new apprentices a little girl who resembles the godmother from Cinderella.
Modern Disney movies don/'t have room to be subtle. They just throw in a bunch of characters. Character Soup. Which by the way just occurred to me. It worked in Encanto but for some reason people dont like Raya and the Last Dragon, then Wish and Moana 2 also does it, there is another movie in there but I will not mention it and considering I have never seen it cannot say it qualifies.
When my teacher was talking about climax and story telling I asked "what about wish? I don't really understand its plot" my teacher REPLIED WITH "I watched it, it's a disgrace to my lesson" END QUOTE.
A friend and I were like what if Asha and Magnifico sang it while looking at the city. With Magnificos part later you notice its more when its himself focused areas of the city, and Asha is more on the people of Rosas and how much she cares for them and their dreams too. If you wanted to keep it a magnifico and asha duet ofc and then reprise with starboy damit. But gosh a lullaby wouldve been so precious ❤
Plus, ASHA WAS NEVER TOLD NO. She wasn't- like it happened once and she's acting like it's been her whole life. THIS is why changing her backstory to not being the Kings daughter makes everything really bad. Like, it's like if you took a bunch of pages of a book and remixed them.
Ya know, Disney could have kept star boy while still having him be a ‘mime’ character. Think of how much more impactful his transformations would have been if they were his primary way of communicating. It could also combine Peter Pan with tinker bell slightly by having this silly boyish character with exaggerated movements and facial expressions to convey what he’s thinking.
And it would've been an easy way to satisfy their narcistic needs of squeezing in useless references, by having him shapeshift into some of the characters.
48:07 I've been hearing that this guy right here might be the original base for Star Boy. Not only did they reduce our boy to a marketable plushie, but a flipping REFERENCE to Peter Pan! They did him so dirty...
Honestly looking at the concept art… yeah that’s definitely him recolored 🫠 which is diabolical considering starboy was initially inspired by Peter Pan-
Im still mad that they messed up the King and Queen. We could have had a villian power couple with the mannerisms of Morticia and Gomez Addams and Disney took it away from us.
Asha should have been the princess. Where the villains actually do care about their daughter and are prepping her as a powerful evil sorceress but she learns to use magic for good. It should have been Asha and Starboy vs the king and queen. Imagine the inner conflicts between them. Parents vs child, power or family bonds, true love vs family love. It would have been glorious!
My question is. Why couldn't Starboy been a human, shapeshifter, AND mute. Humans don't have to talk. It would've separated him from genie, if that's what they were worried about. It could even be a callback to the little mermaid, SINCE THEY LOVE THEIR CALLBACKS, THEY COULD'VE LEANED INTO THAT. Imagine the potential of a mute magical character speaking through so many magical means. A call back to kiss the girl, maybe??? (like Asha falls first and wants to express it to him but can't for whatever reason, and he wants to tell her he likes her too but doesn't really know what to do about love because he's not use to being a human, etc etc) What if Magnifico captured Starboy and locked him down?? what if they inverted the damsel in distress trope with that?? The lack of human Star, as well as "this song can be applied to any situation so it can be played on the radio" songs, shows that the "heart" of this movie is just a money bag.
just imagine how adorable it would’ve been if asha sang to him and then at the end of it he started humming the melody under his breath with a cute lil smile and then they kissed WAAAHHHHHH
Starboy couldn't be a starboy because Disney hates romance. They spent a decade mocking all their old romantic movies and acting like women hate romance. It started pretty early, but I give Frozen the blame for being the first movie where Disney's only takeaway was: okay people hate romance. Let's never have that ever again.
He would have been Amaya's Starman, to Asha's Starboy. The synergy was even stronger than we ever thought possible... Amaya and Asha's names being so similar, Magnifico was Amaya's corrupted wish, it's... aah, they could have had a renaissance era quality Disney movie in their hands here. They had it and let it go to waste...
When I watched Wish in theatres, there was a toddler in the row in front of me, who was moving around, waving at me. THE TODDLER WAS BORED BY A DISNEY MOVIE. What has the world come to?
oh gosh, it’s really *that* bad! i watched the trailers and every time i saw a trailer for it on tv i said “this is gonna suck.” apparently i was right!! i’m not even gonna try to watch it.
@@MichaelBurkhalterToddlers can stare for hours at Cocomelon if you raise them on that though. I’ve seen that first hand. My kid doesn’t get a lot of screen time though and isn’t a toddler. She is 7, loves Encanto and many older Disney movies. She begged me not to show her Wish. She said the talking goat is creepy.
WHY did Disney have to cut out all the great concepts for Wish?! You know what? I'm GLAD that they weren't nominated for anything this year! Maybe this is the wake-up call they need to start actually giving a shit about the movies and shows they make!
@@viviennemorgan7217 the classic disney renaissance movies were made for kids AND successful and still had good ideas! heck, they even had darker ones in some of them, like the death of mufasa, the war and fallen soldiers in mulan, racism to gypsies in hunchback, an abusive parental figure in tangled etc. that’s not the reason. disney is just not being creative and ambitious here. they’re not daring to try hard anymore.
@@ohshanic yeah i know, i know that there are some dark moments in disney movies like the death scene of pedro and how he was killed by soldiers, rapunzel being kidnapped by mother gothel and being forced to stay up in the tower and other stuff. But here's wish, there's nothing dark about this movie except for the deleted scenes.
@@ohshanic What made Disney so great in the 90's is that they were unstoppable, the only non Disney animated film was able to come close to them was Anastasia. Now a days there is so much competition that Disney lost the will to take risks. What's the point in making a film for kids and adults if it's not going to be a guarantee hit in the box office???? Princess and the Frog was so charming, but it was overshadowed by Avatar, so P&tF didn't live up to Disney's expectations.
Well, Disney should hire you BECAUSE of this video! You didn't just say "I don't like it!" You gave a detailed and intelligent critique! Walt would hire you, but Bob just wants yes-men, so here we are! Great video! I enjoyed it!
Disney would probably just hire an assassin if they wanted to. They have enough money to get away with murder with a slap on the wrist. If Fazbear Entertainment could do it, then so can Disney.
When the scene with the book saying that once you use dark magic you are corrupted forever I halved expeted that there was going to be a twist where Amaya's true love for Magnifico was going to be able to "break the curse". I didn't have too much hope, seeing how the movie was going, but I thought it would be fun to have the villain be the one that's save by true love.
yeah amaya should’ve saved magnifico from the magic in the end 🤧 that would’ve been so cute!! disney has this weird meta since frozen that the concept of “true love” is… not good??? or at the very least “unrealistic” but it never feels like that sentiment came from a genuine place
I wish (no pun intended) that had been the case, it would have been a nice thing to see. But no, Disney had to go woke with the usual man evil bad, woman powar for evar. 😢 😑
@@CarrieTooTired Well, at least it was interesting in Frozen, as something new and unusual. But kind of... God, they really should Google the word "balance"
This is such a good idea 😭 Why Disneeeeyyyyyy? I’ve always been obsessed with villain lovers who are actually in a healthy relationship. If this movie had done that well, I really would’ve given Disney their W, but NO 😭
@@joypink5599 Haven't you watched Lego Monkey Kid? It’s just that there are such relationships there, so I’ll just give you a note if you’re interested, maybe
My friend said he had to take his kids to Stone Cold Creamery to cheer them up, his daughter was close to tears by sheer boredom. If you can disappoint kids who adore Disney, you done goofed on your film.
I normally can’t stand shoehorned romantic plots and “soul mates” but star boy just seems so FUN! Like, Genie or Jack Frost or NIMONA! The worst part? Disney could’ve given us Starboy and Star so we could’ve had a fun character AND a plushie because he’s literally a SHAPESHIFTER!
I seriously have never seen a movie with people preferring literally ALL the concepts over the finished product Sure,some movies you kinda wish (hah) one or two scenes weren't deleted,or that they had gone with a different design. But this movie? The romance,Jack Frost wishing star flavor,villain couple,LITERALLY EVERYTHING FROM THE CONCEPT STAGE WAS GREAT,your brainstorming/concept stage shouldn't outshine the FINISHED product!! What the hell Disney!!
Forreal though, what where they thinking? It's like they made a perfect dish and decided to make it again without any of the spice, such a bland and uninspired final product.
people clown on the caution line from asha's song or the rent line from magnifico's pathetic attempt at a villain song, but the worst one for me is 'when it comes to the universe we're all shareholders in the system solar' CHRIST my ears
@@gbs5009 a tumblr joke where taylor swift is said to have written a song called “fuck like a mountain rat”. basically, a joke that sounds so obvious you know it’s fake, but in this instance it was not 💀
Honestly my biggest biggest problem with wish was that I didn’t care about any of the characters, like half the cast was so wishy-washy in their personality and the other half didn’t seem to have any?? Also this was a great video! You deserve so much more views
thank you sm 🙈💖 also totally agree on the characters, they really just shove archetypes in your faces and called it a day 🫠 w/ sabino it’s “hey here’s the old grandpa who’s 100 years old, feel bad for him bc his dreams aren’t coming true on his birthday” …but it’s not like sabino *literally* waited since he turned 18??? Magnifico is not *that* old and the kingdom is young, most of its ppl are immigrants- srry abt the tangent, but tldr: the characters are very one dimensional
A lot of the characters were nothing but cut in background characters only thrown in when needed to fill empty spots in the story or characters shoehorned to fit easter eggs like Asha's friends being the seven dwarves
Ikr? Like I cannot describe anything about any characters in the movie besides their appearence... Oh and Ashs is "quirkyyy" I guess but like i dunno, I don't feel characters contrasting with one another because not only they're all the same there's literally nothing about them... Idk if I explained it properly but yeah, i agree.
Funnily enough the annoying goat feels more like a failed homage to Shreks Donkey than a classic Disney sidekick. Are you roosting yourself and failing at it, Disney?
It really speaks volumes when their significantly smaller side production, "Once Upon A Disney" which is basically a glorified tour guide of the entire Disney history with all of their animated characters both 2D and 3D appearing in it, served as an infinitely better 100 year anniversary celebrating their legacy than "Wish" ever was. It's genuinely baffling how hard they fumbled the bag with this one
@@rattyeely the so-called "love letter" served as a cheap distraction to prepare us for the godawful abomination that was Wish. It was meant showcase all the fake good things that happened to Disney, which are all irrelevant considering the kind of people they chose to be. The short film was too chipper in its future, one that I hope and pray day after day after day after day will be its worst because of how badly they failed to redeem themselves in everyone's eyes. These films, all the hard work, none of it truly mattered in the grand scheme of things because they were never meant to tell a story. They were meant to make money. Money that the actual talented creators will never receive because the higher ups have leverage against them.
Somethings I'd Change: 1. Asha is Magnifico & Amaya's daughter 2. Star Boy. 3. King Magnifico is a fallen star. 4. At all costs was the lullaby they sang to Asha. 5. Asha WAS her parents Wish. 6. The story is a love story, both romantic and familia. 7. An external threat causes Amaya and Magnifico to be evil but it as spawned from wanting to protect people. 8. Asha using At all costs to remind her corrupted parents of their love for their daughter. 9. Star boy plays a major role and works to fix things with Asha. At All costs lyric Change can be a transformation of the song from a lullaby of her parents to a love ballad. 10. Amaya and Magnifico return to normal and they work together to save Rosas.
Ironically, Puss in Boots:The Last Wish actually had way more references to fairytales and Disney callbacks without being too annoying about it. Magic nanny bag, poison apples, walking broom, Jiminy Cricket, heck even a cameo of Cinderella’s glass slipper, all present and were fun Easter Eggs to find. Bonus for Perrito being the ‘animal sidekick’ that is actually developed well and doesn’t detract from the scene like Valentino the goat did. Plus, MAGIC WISHING STAR being front and focus and shows off its immense power even without granting a single wish. So failure on Wish right there. And I do love the shoutout to Trolls 3 😂 That movie played with nostalgia (early American boy bands) much better and had a banger soundtrack that still lives for free in my brain (and I don’t even charge it rent 😉). While I’m more into the protagonists than Velvet and Veneer, I do love how ‘extra’ they are as villains and their spaghetti body designs allows a lot of room for creativity and expression. The viewer can also see how much more impactful their actions have on the characters. Along with the obvious height difference, there’s such a coldness with Velvet whenever she steals Floyd’s and the other’s essence and displays such a blatant disregard for them every time she interacts with them. Excess shaking, overusing the spray, amused when they attempt to bargain for their release, she’s really a despicable character and is soooo vain and selfish 😂 That’s the level of horridness King Magnifico needed to be! Honestly, if one were to pit Velvet and King Magnifico together, she would totally wipe the floor with him verbally and he probably wouldn’t be a able to get a spell in cause she would steal whatever is available and easy to grab and take him by surprise. 😂
@@nairocamilo not surprising. There’s quite a few films I passed on the first time around that ended up being great to watch. I blame bad trailers mainly for that. If one is not into the ‘Trolls’ franchise, yeah it can be difficult to muster up the desire to watch the movies/shows, especially when it’s been (unfavorably) memed out as something that’s “too silly and childish” to take seriously. Fortunately for me, I was so mad at DreamWorks marketing and myself for not seeing movies like Megamind, How to Train Your Dragon, and Rise of the Guardians in theaters that from “The Croods” onwards I vowed to see every DW movie in theaters. And yes, I have stuck to that rule and that’s how my friend and I ended up seeing “Trolls” while in college and surrounded by families with kids everywhere 😂 we have since watched the next two movies together and she indulges in my crazy theories and world building head cannons 😅
"he was too much like genie" ah cool so the already heavily self-referential centennial movie could have had a character inspired by one who is very possibly disneys biggest icon ever after mickey while still keeping him faily distinguishable by making his role in the story different... and we thought this was a _bad_ idea
If they truly didn’t want a love story, just don’t have them kiss. They can have their song, which could technically fit as friends, and everybody and their grandmother would fight online about if they were romantic or not, which is a brilliant ploy for engagement. Like Bruno.
they didn't want starboy to be too powerful compared to asha by being able to transform into anything--and yet a movie like nemona doesn't seem to have this problem, despite her literally turning into a kaiju in the end. Anyway what I'm saying is nemona is just good wish
To be honest, I don’t share everyone’s enthusiasm abt Nimona (I think this cartoon is, well... just normal, I think?), but it was 100 times more interesting.
@@justzombie7594it was actually good not as big as everyone made it sound but probably they hype it cause they have what they consider "a good representation"
@@billykaplan9915 It was GREAT representation, and I loved it, even as a boring, basic cishet girl. Yes, it has pacing issues, but so do highly lauded films, like Into the Spiderverse (for real, why did that scene with Miles webbed to an unconscious Peter take so long). Nimona was fun, and heartfelt, a great message, and genuinely good jokes that made me laugh so hard I couldn't breathe. The jokes in Wish just made me cringe.
I think the real reason they cut Starboy was because as usual, Disney rushed the film, and they didn't have enough time to animate such a complex character. It's really hard to rig all those puppets, since he's changing form all the time.
@@WobblesandBean Not to mention the suits were all over the production, and kept changing things for the sake of marketing, and other factors the movie shouldn't have to worry about DURING IT. Jennifer Lee's leadership has been nothing short of piss poor given how often the suits have gotten involved on the studio. She has to draw a line in the sand, and tell them to stay out of their way.
yeah its really bizarre. Most disney concept art pales in comparison to the final product, like with Frozen. But with Wish, the concept art looks like they had the potential for something good, it just needed more polish. But the movie ends up looking poorly developed, like they pulled every trope from the disney guide and didn’t do anything new or interesting with it. Also, the movie just reeks of corporate. Aisha being the rapunzel-esque adorkable get-getter heroine, the “follow your dreams” and “believe in yourself” mantra, the pop songs, and the villain being reduced to a cackling mustache curling baddie because the writers couldn’t think of a way to prove him wrong so they just made him go crazy.
I honestly feel bad for king magnifico. He was Literally the hero of the story until he just randomly got possessed. Also, when he got sucked into the staff in the end, doesn't that mean he got out of being possessed? Yet the queen didn't try to figure out if he was still possessed or not and just locked him up? The person she loved for years??? This movie Gave me almost as much of a headache as the end of "orion and the dark" on Netflix 😑
About to be so for real, wouldn’t the wife be able to tell he wasn’t possessed anymore. When the wife saw him in the mirror, wouldn’t see notice that he didn’t have that green glow in his eyes anymore? He literally wasn’t evil enough, he had to be possessed to be considered a villain.
His eyes reverted when the wishes were taken away so I’m assuming that means they broke the spell, but I think the queen’s intentions got lost somewhere in the finale so disney basically uncooked their relationship altogether 😭 I think Magnifico using dark magic bc of his paranoia is an interesting direction, but I think the 0 - 100 jump to evil was too simplistic for a villain that’s “not a twist villain” 🫠
@@CarrieTooTired it's such a shame, because they were such a cute couple 😭 Exactly! It was way too forced! What would have been better if the deity in the book was the actual villain, using magnifico like a puppet.
@@wooperfan584 my guess is that the book’s magic is just dark fairy magic since the book itself is a reference to Maleficent 🙃 they literally made the same reference for Descendants, but if the green dragon was an anti-life force that feeds on wish magic, we could’ve gotten a cool finale instead of just Green Magnifico 😞
Disney is sooooo obsessed with the “adorkable independent girl’s girl who don’t need no man” and it’s kinda sad because we need a good romance every once in a while, we can have a character who is independent and confident and also have a romance!!!!
You know, they could've had star boy shape shift into little star from time to time. That way, they could've had a great character and a marketable plushie. Like, when Star boy needs to lie low, he could've shapeshifted to little star.
They don't want the boy. They wanted Asha to girlboss her way through the movie and she can't do that if there is a man in her life. Same reason they got rid of the villain power couple because they can't have the woman in power having faults.
FR like at daytime he may need to recharge or dosent shine as bright so he's in the star form, and at night, when he shines brightest he's in his human form
I want my disney love story back! Give female characters a love intrest again, they can be strong independent characters AND have a love interest, look at Mulan and Tiana. Screw you Dis Knee.
The concept art of Asha and Starboy really looks unique and fantastical. Like he is a protector who just wants to fullfill her wish. Like real soulmates. Wow that art
Aurora and Tiana have less screen time but more dresses 🫠 even from a non-merchandise perspective wouldn’t it just be fun to have pretty dresses and transformations???
They did the same thing with the live action Ariel. They actually improved Jasmine’s wardrobe when they did the remake, but Ariel gets one just okay dress. Removed a lot of the magic.
I really hope they fire Jennifer Lee as the creative head. She's clearly not as talented as they thought and the fact that she insulted traditional animation is so bad.
Jennifer Lee got too much credit for writing Frozen, she didn’t even create Elsa-which by the way is the reason why Frozen is so successful. Her writing is subpar and full of plotholes at best and when they give her too much creative control, thats when things go bad. She’s responsible for the atrocious writing of Wish, Frozen 2, and Wreck it ralph 2
@@Nopeasaurussame! I legit have never understood why Frozen became so popular, especially when you read into the original concept of Elsa as a full blown villain, and I’m pretty sure she wasn’t even related to Anna either. One song alone is NOT nearly enough to completely change a story to revolve around a single character. The movie isn’t even close to the actual novel of the Snow Queen, who only appears in like two chapters of the entire book. Frozen 2 was so much worse imo, considering the “fifth spirit” plot originally had a very interesting concept with a mysterious deer spirit, similar to the deer spirit in Princess Mononoke.
@@notapplicable6985 that doesn’t change Frozen was still an adaptation of said book, even the villain is named after the author. And to be fair, Elsa was fully intended to be the villain when the story was being written, but when Let it Go was composed, Disney got greedy and thought they could make a lot more money by making Elsa a protagonist instead, and changing the story of having sisterly love instead, giving us two Disney Princesses instead of one. For both Frozen movies they had heavy alternative stories, especially the second one where we actually got to explore Iduna and Agnar’s relationship, and who exactly the fifth spirit was (not Elsa btw) but also the second movie originally planned to have Arendelle destroyed by the dam collapsing as a consequence of their grandfather’s prejudice against the Northoldra people and trying to force them to bow to his rule in Arendelle
I honestly was on Magnifico’s side for the entire movie and he didn’t even get super evil to me? He like actually did a lot for the town and also Asha was dead wrong for immediately trying to get something from him. Also he is hot.
Like, yeah, he was bad and all. But the worst thing he did was use wishes for power- he never even tried to kill anyone. Disney has lost their balls when it comes to dark content. (and I agree that he's hot)
he had a really good reason to be that protective and the punishment he got was really unproportional. they are so used to making twist villains that they kind of... forgot how to make a classic evil for evils sake villain? then tried to apply the rules of a traditional villain on a character who was easily redeemable
I love the fanmade rewrites, animatics and songs so much. I'm proud of what art thrives when an entire community agrees that the original/old drafts of Wish have so much potential and they go and make it for fun, and FOR FREE. Take that, evil corporate execs!
I think we need to get a bunch of talented artists to created a 2d-animated "fan" re-creation of Wish to give audiences the version that the audience was robbed of.
What’s disappointing is Disney has PROVEN the can mix mediums before. I think they just got lazy and rushed the whole thing just so they can CALL it a 100th Anniversary movie and rake in those nostalgia dollars.
@@therealopaartist Disney was very diligent in playing it as safe as possible, and in doing so they created their magnum opus in mediocrity. The creative team really should've stuck to their guns and made the movie they originally wanted to create, even if it would've taken longer. As an old man once said, "You can't rush art."
IGHHHHH WE WERE ROBBED. Fellas, we gotta storm the castle and DEMAND Disney do a full retcon of wish and rewrite it with the original storyboard! Just from the deleted scenes alone the story and dialogue was so much better than the final product
Three things 1. Your avatar is just adorable 2. I really like how chill and mellow you are. It feels really comfortable and authentic. Was perfect to listen to while winding down after a long day. 3. I had a blast watching and look forward to watching from you!
The fact that we could have had a renaissance of a Jack Frost type character through the Starboy in the 2020s is Disney’s most egregious crime right next to its first villain couple. Wish had all the makings to be an amazing film but corporate meddling, keeping up with trends, and trying to copy and paste Encanto’s success killed it.
The more I learn about Wish, the more I refuse to believe the movie wasn't made specifically to spit on the legacy of Walt. There's so many things that went wrong that it's actually impossible NOBODY thought something was wrong. Like they genuinely thought that for their 100th anniversary, they should spit on the legacy of their founder.
A lot of people say that from the basic concepts utilized for the story this could have never worked but I've MLP projects (both official & fan made) make these ideas work in less than 1h.
Yeah it definitely felt like a story that was rewritten a lot and needed more time to be workshopped 🫠 in a world where wish didn’t have the burden of being “the big d100 project,” wish could’ve taken some risks that would’ve paid off given the general conversation surrounding it
Disney: oh no no, we can't have Star boy. He's too similar to the Genie from Aladdin Also Disney: "proceeds to slap Mickey's face into a Luma from Super Mario Galaxy"
Okay, hear me out: If Evil Magnifico wanted to mess with Asha, hurt her in the finale in front of everyone, instead of dragging HER up onto the stage, drag her *Sabino* up there (instead of her or with her) like a perversion of the Wish-granting ceremony Asha wanted for his 100th birthday the whole time. Really rub salt in the wound that Magnifico will NEVER grant Sabino's Wish. And Asha looks at Sabino and says something like "Saba, I never should have tried to get your wish granted... (gasp, whaaat?) I wanted to become Magnifico's apprentice to help you because... *you are my greatest inspiration!* But you don't need *me* to grant your wish. You don't need _HIM_ (Magnifico) to grant your wish either. *_You,_** Only YOU, can make **_YOUR_** wish come true! ... and you've already showed me you can."*_ And Asha's gentle peptalk is what prompts SABINO to sing the reprise to the people and INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION CROWD TO TAKE THEIR WISHES BACK, demonstrating that everyone has the power in them to try and make their wish come true, and the best way to help guide someone to their dream is with understanding and support, (not just handwavy cheat magic.)
This is literally so good!!!! This gives the characters more depth and shows a continuity that was missed with Sabino. It’s like they have no relationship with each other so this would have actually made his wish come true and show her love and connection with her family/friends as they fight for Sabino.
The cut scene you missed is on RUclips. It shows how much of an ACTUAL villain Magnifico could have been! And how much chemistry him and Amaya had, not only as a couple but also as a villain. AND HE TRIES TO STEAL A FREACKING STAR ON THAT SCENE AND TRIES TO EACH A COUPLE OF WISHES LIKE IT WAS NOTHING!!! I'm..... so disappointed at Disney...
I actually saw it a few days ago, their evil villain dynamic was delicious!! also stealing a star is definitely more creative than using a magic green book for sure
@CarrieTooTired definitely! It also makes Magnifico a bigger threat and links him and Amaya to the main characters in a natural way. It gives the story higher stakes, especially for starboy, making the end of the movie much more believable. There's an animatic made by Ariel Samuel about the end, where they put star boy in. It fixed the whole scene and complimented the song in a much better way!
@@luizaraposo2320 Stealing a star also doesn’t take away Magnifico’s agency as a character like an evil book possessing him does. The first one is an active choice he made to gain unimaginable power, but the second one seems to happen to him like he’s Gollum drawn to his “precious,” which could still be really interesting but the devil’s in the details and there was virtually no progression getting him from “well-meaning leader who wants to do right by his kingdom” to “power-hungry, mustache-twirling supervillain.” In the end I kind of felt bad for him getting locked up in the mirror when as far as I was aware, he was a good king made the victim of a magical curse. The same could be said for Gollum and getting possessed by the ring but at least he actually did truly heinous things to justify being a villain but all Magnifico did was make a few people sad, I guess? Honestly, King Triton acted more villainous than him when he trashed Ariel’s grotto (and he’s not supposed to be a villain).
@colbystearns5066 That's a really good point! It felt to me that they put the book part cause they didn't have a good excuse to make him a villain, and there wasn't enough time in the movie. Idk. It just felt lazy and unfair. For me, it actually makes the queen look like a twist villain who took the opportunity to get the throne just for her.
@@luizaraposo2320It’s fascinating how Queen Amaya was originally meant to be a villain, then was turned into a hero but they forgot to take out the parts where she’s scheming like a villain with the frickin’ magic hand oil(!!!). I’m amazed hardly anyone brings that up in all of the reviews I’ve seen because it’s so infuriating and contrived. Like did Magnifico ever know about that stuff but just chose not to use it because he’s an idiot who wanted to turn evil or merely forgot to apply it or did he really not know anything about it and Amaya hid it from behind his back knowing he’d fall victim to the book’s curse and she’d be there to take over the kingdom from him? This feels like the movie that keeps on giving with how much wrong there is with it.
About the scene you missed: it was a scene where Amalia prepared a "potion" for Magnifico. He used it (along with some chants in Latin) to create a sort of "rope of light" to drag down the star from the sky. It was quite dramatic. In the scene, he fails and has an outburst of rage and frustration where he attempts to eat wishes out of spite. There was a really cool interaction between him and Amalia, who was trying to calm him down and stop him from devouring three wishes: A: "this is your favourite cook's wish!" KM: "There are other cooks". A: "This is your best guard's...and please, this is my mother's!" KM: "Well, in that case..."(Magnifico tries to sneak it) A:"Please, be serious!" It was really a good moment where they established the villain power couple. I think you can still find it on other reaction vids
I didn't realize until I thought about the star boy that could've been, but it just struck me how long it's been since we had a chipper upbeat ingenue boy as our romantic lead in a Disney movie. Think about it- we've had Rapunzel and Anna and other bright-eyed optimists, but the dudes are always cynical and dour in comparison because they fulfill the role of rolling their eyes at sincerity and fairy tale stuff. Eugene, Kristoff, and in the non-romantic category we have Maui, Ralph, Nick from Zootopia. Naveen is carefree but he's also spoiled and entitled and spends a lot of time arguing with Tiana. Eric, Simba, Hercules and Milo from Atlantis are closer but they're also from a long time ago. Quasimodo has the sweetness and gentleness but he's also anxious and withdrawn. Aladdin is energetic and fun but too wily to be a naive ingenue. I'm not saying I dislike those characters, but it would've been really refreshing to have a male lead who's really innocent, earnest and energetic in the way you might imagine a personified wishing star could be. The girlies would've loved it.
it’s crazy to me that they had an idea for a romance and scrapped it. if this was truly a love letter to disney fantasy princess movies, why would they not have a romance like all the classic fantasy princess movies? ((also there hasn’t been a main disney romance in forever))
☝🏻🤓 because women should not rely on men for success I feel like it says more about them than the movie that romance cannot exist without some sort of power dynamic. 💀
Ok heres my hot take: I see people being glad they got rid of starboy because the romance would've been "too cliché". Ok then! In that case, why couldn't they have kept starboy but just make their bond _platonic??_ It could've been just as powerful, and been _even more_ subversive. Like guy and girl with a deep meningful bond thats not romantic? Wouldn't that be cool! But no, apparently its sooo much more unique to have star be uh... A fucking plushy? 🙄
I am internally sobbing as I daydream about an alternate timeline where I'm at the theater, tearing up at a Wish that pays a beautiful homage to classic Disney movies and the inspiring messages Walt has made about following your dreams (and has mute star boy)
I love how the villain of Wish looks VERY similar to the guy who cut out all the good parts of what could have been an amazing movie. It feels satisfying
It’s crazy how this was supposed to be such a great movie that would be memorable for years to come but instead became something people will find forgettable and ignore for years to come. 😭
The Wish was so bad that many suspected that the movie was written and generated by AI. However, this is apparently not the case, instead the film was re-written and re-edited many times before it took its final shape. For example, Asha's romance with the star boy and the queen's villainess were unfortunately elements that didn't pass the approval of Disney's jury of sensitivity readers. And while in some cases sensitivity readers can be useful, such as in consulting, in this case its use ate away a lot from the film. However, I would still be interested to know what the jury's reasons for these changes were, because it is important data and part of the film's development history.
They missed a HUGE opportunity to wow us with gorgeous constellation visuals, you know...Actually using the theme of stars and space? Wish is so visually boring it hurts; everyone knows how stunningly beautiful the night sky is with no pollution, there's no love, no flavor, everything is so flat.
God, I would love a Villain Couple. I would kill for a really good evil duo who are also in love. I want them to have a healthy relationship with one another but be utterly toxic to everyone else. Somebody else write me that story, because Disney ain't gonna do it.
srry for the audio mute at around 28:25, someone manually claimed it 😔 it was fun while it lasted
5 months later lmao
mourning over the loss of audio 😔
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What did markiplier say
@@marijacvetko8638 smash
Sometimes you watch deleted scenes and think "aw man, that wouldve been cool to add, oh that makes sense!" Rarely do you see a bunch of deleted scenes and think "oh so theres the movie"
THIS, oh my god you put to words exactly how i feel rn lmao
I think we can infer who won the "Corporate cynicism not wanting to take any risks vs the creative drive of a team of talented, non-unionized artists" battle here
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I wish we got encanto's deleted scenes
The evil power couple would have been amazing!!!!
They could have had their cake and ate it too with Starboy. Make him have his human form at night when he shines brightest or whatever, and then have the chibi marketable plushie version during the day when he is conserving power. Then you could keep a lot of the chemistry and humor with their interactions and have the design that kids will love and buy merch of.
This is what the movie could have been!!
Literally!
That's the thing. Being a corrupted capitalist is one thing and being a STUPID corrupted capitalist is another. NOBODY would've been dissatisfied with this choice, people wouldn't even see the marketable plushie as Disney being greedy and buy more of them to have their own starboy
It's really sad when you think Suzume did a verrry similar thing just a few months prior with Souta and the chair. It had been PROVEN to work as a formula!
Starboy could have been Disney's ROTG Jack Frost but they decided to throw that away for ROTG Sandman and I don't really know why. It's so disappointing.
"He's too close to looking like a genie."
*Literally makes Asha's friend similar to the seven dwarves.*
Pretty much, I’d prefer the genie version of starboy, still cute as a plushie tho
I don't know why they didn't go all in and use the 7 dwarves directly XD
I don't understand why that could've been a problem, isn't it an homage to the past movies? Wouldn't that fit?
Asha and Starboy’s romance could have been a PERFECT callback to Disney’s classic true love’s kiss trope. But no we had have a plushie with Mickey’s face…
true love’s kiss literally kicked off the theatrical disney films 😭 you can’t just do a classic disney movie w/o one
@@CarrieTooTired i honestly wanted and expected magnifico to be freed from the curse with a true love's kiss by the queen, like in the beauty and the beast 😭
...?
how can they claim they've returned to the disney formula when they decided to cut the true loves kiss AND the princess main character smh!!
@@Random.Lobster?
"Star was too close to the Genie so we changed him, also have 200+ Disney easter eggs from other movies"
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*Easter eggs that don't feel natural and are very forced.
It's crazy that they had a problem with star boy being do much like genie yet they didn't have a problem of ripping off Nintendo with the Lumas especially the fact it's literally released the same year as the Mario Movie
How Disney see the problem in DISNEY CHARACTER being similiar to ANOTHER DISNEY CHARACTER? Like I could understand if they worried Star Boy is to similiar to Jack Frost because he is from another rival studio, but Genie? Wth Disney?
"We want Wish to have a little bit of that nostalgia from old animated movies." (removes everything so that its a flavourless slop)
Copyrighting themselves so much they cant even refer to themselves in their own content
Disney has developed an allergy to romance. They haven't made a proper love story since Tangled 14 years ago. Not every movie needs a romance, but goddamn, i am starving for a warm fuzzy Disney love story.
@@b1_1nnies sure, it can be great without it, but it also can be great *with* it. If the time duration between now and the last time we had a fuzzy Disney romance is twice the age of the intended audience, there's something wrong. OP didn't say "all Disney movies have to be classic romances from now on", they literally just said they wish to have even just one.
Im not even into love stories but a Disney romance would sound good rn
@@jessip8654 But romantic stuff is the whole reason why people loved Disney fairy tales
@@jessip8654 Of all the terrible things of recent Disney movies, obnoxiously overdone and widespread romance is what you yearn for more of? How about no.
last Star Wars movie, maybe? lol
Tbh i think they should've made ashas arc like a reversal of tianas, where tiana had to learn that she could rely on other people, asha has to learn to rely on herself. Instead of relying on magnifico to make her and her loved ones' wishes come true, she learns that she can strive to make them come true on her own
I can definitely see that as an arc 💕 It’s a pretty good lesson and plays into Magnifico’s reliance on magic!!
As James would say “…that old star can only take you part of the way. You got to help him with some hard work of your own. And then... Yeah, you can do anything you set you mind to.”
@@CarrieTooTiredhi this is the first video of yours I ever seen
It’s very good
@@CarrieTooTired Imagine having such a good message in that film, only to completely miss it so badly here. I feel like Disney is offensively trying to pander to Gen Alpha, who they assume are lazy, entitled, spoiled, whiny brats who have never seen a single day of strife, want everything handed to them, and don't understand the meaning of earning something. Just like Asha.
Asha is literally how Disney sees its target audience, and that really makes me angry.
YEA! Like the message being "You can wish on a star but it's YOU who makes the wish come true" That would feel so classic Disney
Disney taking away a love story because woman can't rely on man while making a young girl rely on a much older man to get her grampa's wish 😐 A man who could you know? Take full advantage of her because she trust him so much
If only they kept star's ability to shape shift, they could have squeezed in so much more easter eggs from previous disney films like animal characters, etc.
It could have been a kind of genie reference. 😔
Yes!!!
It's crazy that they had a problem with star boy being do much like genie yet they didn't have a problem of ripping off Nintendo with the Lumas especially the fact it's literally released the same year as the Mario Movie
@@astralminstrelor even peter pan references
@@AmericaFuckYeah4 hii hetalia pfp
"What can we ever do to repay you, Star?"
(Star turns directly to the camera and speaks for the first time in the movie) "Purchase Disney products!"
(everyone cheers and claps)
At least he's being real with us!
@@PlatinumAltaria honestly the answer feels like a slap in the face to Disney’s audience “Just keep wishing” Kinda like a dream on response to what their audience actually wants. Its pretty hilarious yet sad how large Starboy’s fanbase is comparison to Wish itself
@@PlatinumAltaria and he says it in a deep, deep voice
And who knew it would be that deep!
The cut scene of Asha telling Star-boy to turn down his brightness is so fun and cute!! I would've preferred those scenes to the actual movie
that exchange alone has more chemistry than any of asha’s relationships in wish 😭 I would say the entire movie but I really liked magnifico x amaya
@@ceram1cs I like Star, but the Starboy would have been better. He gives me Super Mario Galaxy vibes.
Magnifico is not even a villain in the final product.
He's just A GUY trying to protect his system. He's the KING after all.
Fr, they just forced him into the villain role despite being set up to be a sympathic character
His reason is also logical, do you really want to grant every wish?
Do the writers know not every wish is good?
What if somebody wish for a genocide/war?
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@@TheDFaiz Exactly XD It takes somneones wish to be "I want everyone dead" for the whole worls to dissapear XD
yeah, there was nothing about his system that was a cover for his selfish desires. maybe wishes can be done by others but he gatekeeps it to get all the attention? maybe he made a sacrifice or thinks he did and believes everyone should be grateful without asking. maybe he keeps the star captured and pretends it's his magic.
so many possibilities
It should've been so simple making him a "true old school Disney villain".
Just make him grant wishes that make his status and kingdom better. Planning an invasion of his original home, being the thief that destroyed it but was stopped.
How hard is it to be Jack Horner or Jafar?! Jafar has no motivation, no backstory, nothing. He just wants power and yet he's one of the most memorable and enjoyable villains despite being very one note.
Wish is the PERFECT example of creative people trying to make something genuinely amazing,
but then the business people in suits who's thoughts only consist of money and narcicism come in and ruin the whole thing 'cause they're the ones with all the decision-power
That's a Perfect summuary
Disney stopped being about creativity a long time ago - now it’s about politics, money and bending the knee to the wokies 😂😂😂
I honestly don’t even believe it’s about money anymore, they’ve made the same mistake way too many times to the point where it’s just plain stupid
Yknow this Kind of reminds me of a movie I just saw.. oh wait this is just wish.
You know you f*ucked up when you could’ve had a love interest AND a marketable plushie, they’re not mutually exclusive all Disney renaissance movies have both- but instead we got a corporate mute sidekick and an annoying useless sidekick 💀,
With them being non-human and her friends and family being as shallow as a puddle it seems Asha has no relationships going on WHATSOEVER 😂
fr like??? such a big cast of characters and for what???
Ykw that never even occurred to me lol. 😭
Also, if they were so afraid to give their strong female protagonist a love interest again, then why not have them be the best of friends. We need more platonic relationships between boys and girls expressed in animated movies. They can be soulmates, like people with twin souls, that are meant to be. I mean, especially if he is supposed to represent her wish, he's like a part of her soul.
Is it just me or do a lot of the scenes in the city feel.. Vacant? Empty? Unfinished? Idk. Maybe its just me
@@brendathevehicon because the city IS empty in many of the scenes where the main characters aren’t at the center of, giving this feeling that the world of Wish revolves around a small group of people. If Asha sings a song about herself instead of Rosas, there’s no need for villagers to hang around doing daily chores as they’re just visual flare, compared to the city life in Rapunzel yes, Rosas is like a “cuckoo clock kingdom” where life is seen only at certain times. You’re not alone 😭😭
They wrote themselves into a corner when it came to the finale. So they had everyone sing to stop the king.
I feel like they wrote the finale and didn’t know how to get there 🙃
My little pony type ending💀
The power of friendship saved the day, and rapunzel magic tears healed Flynn, and-and all the pokemon's crying saved Ash Ketchum (I don't like that trope)
@@monoduck I love the magic of friendship trope, but only when it's done RIGHT. In MLP it's kinda the point for obvious reasons, but in other shows it often gets corny and cheesy, not to mention an ass pull.
@@imthebossmermaid3648the thing with mlp is that friendship is LITERALY Magic like making besties apparently shoots a giant rainbow Lazer
“When it comes to the universe we’re all shareholders” I CANNOT GET OVER THAT LINE CHILDREN DO NOT KNOW WHAT SHAREHOLDERS ARE DISNEY
@@nervousbreakdown711 I kept hearing that play between sections and thought it was from some SNL sketch making fun of the movie 😭 Not actual lyrics from the movie!
@@nervousbreakdown711 i get that they were going for an “adult joke in a kids movie” thing but its not even funny to adults 💀💀
it baffles me that they cut starboy because he was "too close to genie" like you'd think that wouldn't be a bad thing in a movie that's literally filled with references to other disney movies
They were ashamed because of their Genie+ app maybe?
So you’re telling me that this movie has 7 shoehorned-in best friends to directly reference the 7 dwarves and countless other deliberate references to established Disney characters, and Starboy being too much like Genie was just unacceptable for some reason?
I guess it would have worked if it was Seven Star Boys.
yesss we can never have enough starboys
@@thibautisserant💀😭
7 starboys that's cute. It's like 12 swan princess.
@@Vor567tez *12 star boys.*
Apparently Magnifico was originally meant to also be a fallen star, ie, Amaya's Starman... which further contrasts with Asha and Starboy.
Jfc, that is such a cute idea! Why did they have to scrap nearly every good thing about this movie?
@@DmitriDish for real though. It makes me so upset and it feels like something was stolen from me. We need a petition for Disney to remake it AS IT SHOULDVE BEEN MADE
@@BandKidBambi Да!
@@Krystalmyth bruh that would've been so cool WHY DISNEY WHY
i'm so sad
Man, seeing the deleted scenes made me straight up sad because how good and much potential they showed. I wanted THAT movie! I wanted Starboy, a main lead who isn't another 'uwu quirky girl', a villain couple, a final act with the villain turning into a monster!
Seriously, I wanna slap the person who stepped in and was like, "Nah, let's strip all that away and instead make it generic as hell.'
Dude, same! The idea of a love story with a shapeshifting Jack Frost looking starboy would’ve been such a huge hit among the young crowd, but noooo! Hell, they would’ve been able to sell those dumb plushies better had they still have starboy! This could’ve been a love story that was on the same level as Tangled. Corporate meddling had to ruin everything! 🙃
Same!!!!!!
YEAH!! To be honest, I think it's valid of Disney to be moving away from romance being the main focus of their films. But since Wish is meant to be a homage to the classic Disney movies then THEY SHOULD'VE ADDED THE ROMANCE!!! Starboy seemed like he would've been a pretty fun character and I would've loved to see his dynamic with the more timid Asha. THEIR RELATIONSHIP COULD'VE BEEN SO CUTE DISNEY WHY 😭😭😭
The villain couple is supposedly a concept in a MIraculous Ladybug movie that came out last year that I still need to watch.
Asha says “if the wishes are bad we can stop them” but there’s never a moment where the wishes aren’t portrayed as the best and most magical thing in the world, and there’s never a moment where she gets challenged on her beliefs, where someone says that they got their wish granted, but realized that they didn’t need it to be happy
Fr nobody in this movie learned anything during the course of this. There was an amazing setup for Cynicism and laziness ruining the pure idealism Magnifico once had. Instead we got 'I love magic because it gives me stuff then I can give you stuff too!' which is literally how Magnifico got where he was in the first place!
They should've used that to teach her a lesson tbh. At first she thinks everyone deserves their wish and turns against Magnifico thinking he's in the wrong by being selective but then realizes after granting all the wishes that he was right, the kingdom is a mess because most of the wishes are rubbish or even harmful, people are unhappy, etc. At that point she has to ask for Magnifico's help to fix what she caused and learns that you have to be careful what you wish for or someting like that
@lunalluna9401 That would have made a lot more sense. Magnifico is shown to be cautious about the types of wishes he grants and concerned about unintended consequences. There is probably a reason for that.
Magnifico is a powerful sorcerer who earned his magic through rigorous study and who has been granting wishes for generations while ruling over a utopian kingdom he built from the ground up. Asha, the 17 year old girl who grew up in the kingdom Magnifico built, doesn't even consider the possibility that he might know what he's talking about.
It should have been a lesson in humility. Something similar to the sorcerer's apprentice.
@@lunalluna9401 A good film would have taught both of them something. She is clearly not being selective enough but perhaps Magnifico is being a little too selective. Perhaps paranoia, or just time cause he's also the king. Her mistake makes things better for 5 seconds before spiraling down. She changes her mind and agrees with his idea in being selective, but perhaps pulls one thing out of her attempt that she did right, which Magnifico acknowledges. Maybe he should get multiple apprentices so there is enough time to parse wishes and give people a second chance in a few years or smtn. Hell they could go for fan service and make one of those new apprentices a little girl who resembles the godmother from Cinderella.
Modern Disney movies don/'t have room to be subtle. They just throw in a bunch of characters. Character Soup. Which by the way just occurred to me. It worked in Encanto but for some reason people dont like Raya and the Last Dragon, then Wish and Moana 2 also does it, there is another movie in there but I will not mention it and considering I have never seen it cannot say it qualifies.
When my teacher was talking about climax and story telling I asked "what about wish? I don't really understand its plot" my teacher REPLIED WITH "I watched it, it's a disgrace to my lesson" END QUOTE.
@@Aster_Stars 👏👏👏👏👏
Best words ever spoken 🙏
Tell your teacher she’s a smart woman
Wish can't even do fanservice properly, they needed to study up on how Fairy Tail did it.
You're teacher is truly one of a kind. I have seen such connection between a student and a teacher only during pre school
At all cost could’ve been Asha parents singing to her if they didn’t want romance.
I can see it be workshopped into a lullaby
A friend and I were like what if Asha and Magnifico sang it while looking at the city. With Magnificos part later you notice its more when its himself focused areas of the city, and Asha is more on the people of Rosas and how much she cares for them and their dreams too.
If you wanted to keep it a magnifico and asha duet ofc and then reprise with starboy damit.
But gosh a lullaby wouldve been so precious ❤
Could've made her parents feel more important. They feel like the least fleshed-out parents in a modern Disney film.
@@CarrieTooTired. As is, the songs are so Bad, that even the hungarian dub can do better. Wich says a Lot coming from me(:🇭🇺)!
@@CarrieTooTired that sounds absolutely lovely!!
Plus, ASHA WAS NEVER TOLD NO. She wasn't- like it happened once and she's acting like it's been her whole life. THIS is why changing her backstory to not being the Kings daughter makes everything really bad.
Like, it's like if you took a bunch of pages of a book and remixed them.
I know right?
And her not being his daughter turns "i let you live here for free" from a subtle red flag into *suddenly tax free utopia*
Honestly asha being the king's daughter is a pretty good story rather than the ultimate shit presented towards us.
Ya know, Disney could have kept star boy while still having him be a ‘mime’ character. Think of how much more impactful his transformations would have been if they were his primary way of communicating. It could also combine Peter Pan with tinker bell slightly by having this silly boyish character with exaggerated movements and facial expressions to convey what he’s thinking.
Like Sandman from Rise of the Guardians
And it would've been an easy way to satisfy their narcistic needs of squeezing in useless references, by having him shapeshift into some of the characters.
@@andre_601 heck.. If they want him to be a plushie.. Shows Starboy as a human, while his actual form is that star plushie..
48:07 I've been hearing that this guy right here might be the original base for Star Boy. Not only did they reduce our boy to a marketable plushie, but a flipping REFERENCE to Peter Pan! They did him so dirty...
Honestly looking at the concept art… yeah that’s definitely him recolored 🫠 which is diabolical considering starboy was initially inspired by Peter Pan-
1:56 starboy would have been better all together 48:07 looked uncanny valley levels of creepy.
That has to be him, there’s no other way.
yeah that was definitely him...
@@moaPro...???
Im still mad that they messed up the King and Queen. We could have had a villian power couple with the mannerisms of Morticia and Gomez Addams and Disney took it away from us.
Remember Women can't be evil now, they are always justified, or misunderstood.
Or Zedd and Rita. T_T
@@peteynutt4104exactly, if you make a female a villain THATS SEXIST now 😂😂😂 it MUST be an evil white man that’s what’s in to hate today 😂😂😂
And there deleted scene together was so cute DISNEY WHY 😭
Asha should have been the princess. Where the villains actually do care about their daughter and are prepping her as a powerful evil sorceress but she learns to use magic for good. It should have been Asha and Starboy vs the king and queen. Imagine the inner conflicts between them. Parents vs child, power or family bonds, true love vs family love. It would have been glorious!
My question is. Why couldn't Starboy been a human, shapeshifter, AND mute. Humans don't have to talk. It would've separated him from genie, if that's what they were worried about. It could even be a callback to the little mermaid, SINCE THEY LOVE THEIR CALLBACKS, THEY COULD'VE LEANED INTO THAT. Imagine the potential of a mute magical character speaking through so many magical means. A call back to kiss the girl, maybe??? (like Asha falls first and wants to express it to him but can't for whatever reason, and he wants to tell her he likes her too but doesn't really know what to do about love because he's not use to being a human, etc etc) What if Magnifico captured Starboy and locked him down?? what if they inverted the damsel in distress trope with that??
The lack of human Star, as well as "this song can be applied to any situation so it can be played on the radio" songs, shows that the "heart" of this movie is just a money bag.
even then, it could be a parallel to tinkerbell!! a flying, mute magical creature!
Why does literally every comment on a youtube video have better ideas then disney?
just imagine how adorable it would’ve been if asha sang to him and then at the end of it he started humming the melody under his breath with a cute lil smile and then they kissed WAAAHHHHHH
OMFGGGG, THIS IS A MUCH BETTER CONCEPT AND IDEA THAN WAHT WE GOT!! Goddamn do I want to write a fic about this.. AHHH
Starboy couldn't be a starboy because Disney hates romance. They spent a decade mocking all their old romantic movies and acting like women hate romance. It started pretty early, but I give Frozen the blame for being the first movie where Disney's only takeaway was: okay people hate romance. Let's never have that ever again.
I NEVER REALIZED how redundant Welcome to Rosas is
We were fooled by its catchiness 😔
@@CarrieTooTired we were also fooled for 100 years that magic wasn't even real to begin with.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 I wouldn't say that
It’s essentially ‘welcome to the family madrigal’ again but worse
@@taekinuru2 that’s exactly what I thought 😭
I love the color contrast with Asha purple and Starboy yellow. Starboy would've stood out so much against the grey and blue indigo backgrounds.
“D-Disney, don’t turn me into a marketable plushie-“
“DISNEY”
It's such a shame they didn’t go with the scrapped plot twist that Magnifico is a fallen star himself. That would've been awesome
Wait... that would explain why Magnifico is taking their wishes in the first place... oh god, it's so painful.
He would have been Amaya's Starman, to Asha's Starboy. The synergy was even stronger than we ever thought possible... Amaya and Asha's names being so similar, Magnifico was Amaya's corrupted wish, it's... aah, they could have had a renaissance era quality Disney movie in their hands here. They had it and let it go to waste...
Oh, so that's why his villain song has "I got these genes from outer space" as a lyric
OMG YES😭😭😔 I DIDNT KNOW THAT WAS SCRAPPED THIS MOVIE HAD SOO MUCH POTENTIAL, ALL SCRAPED FOR WHAT?? 😭💔😔✋
It would also explain why he says “I got these genes from outer space” in his song, too
When I watched Wish in theatres, there was a toddler in the row in front of me, who was moving around, waving at me. THE TODDLER WAS BORED BY A DISNEY MOVIE. What has the world come to?
That happened at my theater too, the kid was so excited in the beginning too- it made me sad
oh gosh, it’s really *that* bad!
i watched the trailers and every time i saw a trailer for it on tv i said “this is gonna suck.” apparently i was right!! i’m not even gonna try to watch it.
Toddlers have terrible attention spans. This movie may suck, but saying a toddler couldn’t sit still to watch it means nothing
@@MichaelBurkhalterToddlers can stare for hours at Cocomelon if you raise them on that though. I’ve seen that first hand.
My kid doesn’t get a lot of screen time though and isn’t a toddler. She is 7, loves Encanto and many older Disney movies. She begged me not to show her Wish. She said the talking goat is creepy.
WHY did Disney have to cut out all the great concepts for Wish?!
You know what? I'm GLAD that they weren't nominated for anything this year! Maybe this is the wake-up call they need to start actually giving a shit about the movies and shows they make!
serves them right 😤 they really thought they could just autopilot this thing, specifically in 2023??? they were clownin'
easy to make it for kids.
@@viviennemorgan7217 the classic disney renaissance movies were made for kids AND successful and still had good ideas! heck, they even had darker ones in some of them, like the death of mufasa, the war and fallen soldiers in mulan, racism to gypsies in hunchback, an abusive parental figure in tangled etc. that’s not the reason. disney is just not being creative and ambitious here. they’re not daring to try hard anymore.
@@ohshanic yeah i know, i know that there are some dark moments in disney movies like the death scene of pedro and how he was killed by soldiers, rapunzel being kidnapped by mother gothel and being forced to stay up in the tower and other stuff. But here's wish, there's nothing dark about this movie except for the deleted scenes.
@@ohshanic What made Disney so great in the 90's is that they were unstoppable, the only non Disney animated film was able to come close to them was Anastasia.
Now a days there is so much competition that Disney lost the will to take risks. What's the point in making a film for kids and adults if it's not going to be a guarantee hit in the box office???? Princess and the Frog was so charming, but it was overshadowed by Avatar, so P&tF didn't live up to Disney's expectations.
Well, Disney should hire you BECAUSE of this video! You didn't just say "I don't like it!" You gave a detailed and intelligent critique! Walt would hire you, but Bob just wants yes-men, so here we are!
Great video! I enjoyed it!
aww thank you sm 💖
I don’t think Disney would hire film critics
@@danshull1331 I don't think he would hire Bob, either.
Disney would probably just hire an assassin if they wanted to. They have enough money to get away with murder with a slap on the wrist. If Fazbear Entertainment could do it, then so can Disney.
@nevaehhamilton3493 with the way disney is going, I almost prefer fazbear entertainment. Maybe Freddie would kill me, but I'd be entertained.
This feels like what Shrek would’ve been if Shrek was a bad movie.
Rosas takes in generic medieval fantasy kingdom number 223345 or Duloc
The original book by William Steig was much different from the movie.
Shrek would never be bad. Atleast the first part
When the scene with the book saying that once you use dark magic you are corrupted forever I halved expeted that there was going to be a twist where Amaya's true love for Magnifico was going to be able to "break the curse". I didn't have too much hope, seeing how the movie was going, but I thought it would be fun to have the villain be the one that's save by true love.
yeah amaya should’ve saved magnifico from the magic in the end 🤧 that would’ve been so cute!!
disney has this weird meta since frozen that the concept of “true love” is… not good??? or at the very least “unrealistic” but it never feels like that sentiment came from a genuine place
I wish (no pun intended) that had been the case, it would have been a nice thing to see. But no, Disney had to go woke with the usual man evil bad, woman powar for evar. 😢 😑
@@CarrieTooTired Well, at least it was interesting in Frozen, as something new and unusual. But kind of... God, they really should Google the word "balance"
This is such a good idea 😭
Why Disneeeeyyyyyy?
I’ve always been obsessed with villain lovers who are actually in a healthy relationship. If this movie had done that well, I really would’ve given Disney their W, but NO 😭
@@joypink5599 Haven't you watched Lego Monkey Kid? It’s just that there are such relationships there, so I’ll just give you a note if you’re interested, maybe
My friend said he had to take his kids to Stone Cold Creamery to cheer them up, his daughter was close to tears by sheer boredom. If you can disappoint kids who adore Disney, you done goofed on your film.
that sounded rough, had a few little kids in my theater w/ a similar experience
I'm sure you meant Coldstone Creamery, but now I'm laughing at the idea of Stone Cold Steve Austin opening up an ice cream shop 😅😂
With how alot of kids love wrestlers, wouldn't put it past some
@@UninspiredArtemis Oh, I didn't notice that wasn't what it said. It autocorrected in my head lol
I read that as "My friend said he had to take his kids to the Stone Cold Cemetery to cheer them up" and I was like WHAT THE F-
I normally can’t stand shoehorned romantic plots and “soul mates” but star boy just seems so FUN! Like, Genie or Jack Frost or NIMONA! The worst part? Disney could’ve given us Starboy and Star so we could’ve had a fun character AND a plushie because he’s literally a SHAPESHIFTER!
Asha: ‘you shouldn’t arbitrarily decide who gets to make a wish come true’
Also Asha: ‘I’m the fairy godmother now’
Fr tho
Fr tho
@@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx Fr tho
@@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx Fr tho
@@janettemorales769Fr tho
I seriously have never seen a movie with people preferring literally ALL the concepts over the finished product
Sure,some movies you kinda wish (hah) one or two scenes weren't deleted,or that they had gone with a different design. But this movie? The romance,Jack Frost wishing star flavor,villain couple,LITERALLY EVERYTHING FROM THE CONCEPT STAGE WAS GREAT,your brainstorming/concept stage shouldn't outshine the FINISHED product!! What the hell Disney!!
pour one out for starboy 🤧
@@CarrieTooTired Never forget what they took from us
There is Illuminations Lorax....
Have you ever listened Biggering?
@@nguanimacoes9975I'VE BEEN SAYING BRO
FUCK, BIGGERING IS SO GOOD UGHH
Forreal though, what where they thinking? It's like they made a perfect dish and decided to make it again without any of the spice, such a bland and uninspired final product.
The goat pet having a baby voice and being emotional makes me emotional.
YOU DID THIS TO ME, TOBY FOX!
Ah, I see.
ztrueeeeee
Asriel..
people clown on the caution line from asha's song or the rent line from magnifico's pathetic attempt at a villain song, but the worst one for me is 'when it comes to the universe we're all shareholders in the system solar' CHRIST my ears
is that REAL ?????????? 😭😭😭 i thought it was a fuck like a mountain rat situation oh my g o d
@@jasminv8653 What's a "fuck like a mountain rat" situation?
@@gbs5009 a tumblr joke where taylor swift is said to have written a song called “fuck like a mountain rat”. basically, a joke that sounds so obvious you know it’s fake, but in this instance it was not 💀
Same with the “I got these genes from outer space” 😭 at least it’s given me and my sister quite a bit of amusement from the stupidness of the line
Honestly my biggest biggest problem with wish was that I didn’t care about any of the characters, like half the cast was so wishy-washy in their personality and the other half didn’t seem to have any??
Also this was a great video! You deserve so much more views
thank you sm 🙈💖
also totally agree on the characters, they really just shove archetypes in your faces and called it a day 🫠 w/ sabino it’s “hey here’s the old grandpa who’s 100 years old, feel bad for him bc his dreams aren’t coming true on his birthday” …but it’s not like sabino *literally* waited since he turned 18??? Magnifico is not *that* old and the kingdom is young, most of its ppl are immigrants- srry abt the tangent, but tldr: the characters are very one dimensional
A lot of the characters were nothing but cut in background characters only thrown in when needed to fill empty spots in the story or characters shoehorned to fit easter eggs like Asha's friends being the seven dwarves
“Wish”y washy??😃
Ikr? Like I cannot describe anything about any characters in the movie besides their appearence... Oh and Ashs is "quirkyyy" I guess but like i dunno, I don't feel characters contrasting with one another because not only they're all the same there's literally nothing about them... Idk if I explained it properly but yeah, i agree.
@@batkittii bro-💀
Funnily enough the annoying goat feels more like a failed homage to Shreks Donkey than a classic Disney sidekick. Are you roosting yourself and failing at it, Disney?
It really speaks volumes when their significantly smaller side production, "Once Upon A Disney" which is basically a glorified tour guide of the entire Disney history with all of their animated characters both 2D and 3D appearing in it, served as an infinitely better 100 year anniversary celebrating their legacy than "Wish" ever was.
It's genuinely baffling how hard they fumbled the bag with this one
Once Upon A Studio was just a scam. A charade they held on to for so long that we were fooled by it. You too.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 Can you elaborate?
?? @@nevaehhamilton3493
@@nevaehhamilton3493???
@@rattyeely the so-called "love letter" served as a cheap distraction to prepare us for the godawful abomination that was Wish. It was meant showcase all the fake good things that happened to Disney, which are all irrelevant considering the kind of people they chose to be. The short film was too chipper in its future, one that I hope and pray day after day after day after day will be its worst because of how badly they failed to redeem themselves in everyone's eyes. These films, all the hard work, none of it truly mattered in the grand scheme of things because they were never meant to tell a story. They were meant to make money. Money that the actual talented creators will never receive because the higher ups have leverage against them.
I want Starboy too.
I want financial compensation for my loss disney 😔✌️
Same
Real honestly 😭
We all do.
We NEED star Boy😭
the whole "when you turn 18 you get a wish" idea sounds like a tiktok pov 😭
you know what that's p accurate
Bro, the “Watch out world, here I are” from You’re a Star almost gave me a seizure.
Edit: 1.3k likes?!?! BRO IM FAMOUS
Everyday I wake up thinking “when it comes to the universe we’re all shareholders” thanks to editing this review 😔
Bro, that was like the fastest reply I’ve ever seen.
@@Thee_Onionator small creator gang ✌️ don’t get much traffic haha
@@CarrieTooTiredbecause in this channel we are all shareholders!
@@CarrieTooTiredOMG I just realized how small of a following you have??? craaazyyy you have such nice production quality
concept art is good bcs you see the actual creativity from the artists without yet getting strangled by corporates and ceos
i literally gasped when i realized asha's dress transformation was such a NOTHING BURGER!!! i was like no way they fumbled that!??!!?
Star boy turning into a horse, then turning down the glow to a light on his chest could’ve been a Maximus reference
Somethings I'd Change:
1. Asha is Magnifico & Amaya's daughter
2. Star Boy.
3. King Magnifico is a fallen star.
4. At all costs was the lullaby they sang to Asha.
5. Asha WAS her parents Wish.
6. The story is a love story, both romantic and familia.
7. An external threat causes Amaya and Magnifico to be evil but it as spawned from wanting to protect people.
8. Asha using At all costs to remind her corrupted parents of their love for their daughter.
9. Star boy plays a major role and works to fix things with Asha. At All costs lyric Change can be a transformation of the song from a lullaby of her parents to a love ballad.
10. Amaya and Magnifico return to normal and they work together to save Rosas.
11. Queen Amaya is Black.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 Yup!
@imthebossmermaid3648 She probably already is she just has Vitaligo, maybe
@@AmericaFuckYeah4 Vitiligo isn't a race it's a skin condition that anyone could have. Also are you talking about Asha or Amaya, or both?
@imthebossmermaid3648 I never said it was a race, and I'm referring to Queen Amaya
Ironically, Puss in Boots:The Last Wish actually had way more references to fairytales and Disney callbacks without being too annoying about it. Magic nanny bag, poison apples, walking broom, Jiminy Cricket, heck even a cameo of Cinderella’s glass slipper, all present and were fun Easter Eggs to find.
Bonus for Perrito being the ‘animal sidekick’ that is actually developed well and doesn’t detract from the scene like Valentino the goat did. Plus, MAGIC WISHING STAR being front and focus and shows off its immense power even without granting a single wish. So failure on Wish right there.
And I do love the shoutout to Trolls 3 😂 That movie played with nostalgia (early American boy bands) much better and had a banger soundtrack that still lives for free in my brain (and I don’t even charge it rent 😉). While I’m more into the protagonists than Velvet and Veneer, I do love how ‘extra’ they are as villains and their spaghetti body designs allows a lot of room for creativity and expression.
The viewer can also see how much more impactful their actions have on the characters. Along with the obvious height difference, there’s such a coldness with Velvet whenever she steals Floyd’s and the other’s essence and displays such a blatant disregard for them every time she interacts with them. Excess shaking, overusing the spray, amused when they attempt to bargain for their release, she’s really a despicable character and is soooo vain and selfish 😂
That’s the level of horridness King Magnifico needed to be! Honestly, if one were to pit Velvet and King Magnifico together, she would totally wipe the floor with him verbally and he probably wouldn’t be a able to get a spell in cause she would steal whatever is available and easy to grab and take him by surprise. 😂
I shall forever be embarrassed that I slept on Trolls 3.
When I finally watched it, God... What a great film
@@nairocamilo not surprising. There’s quite a few films I passed on the first time around that ended up being great to watch. I blame bad trailers mainly for that.
If one is not into the ‘Trolls’ franchise, yeah it can be difficult to muster up the desire to watch the movies/shows, especially when it’s been (unfavorably) memed out as something that’s “too silly and childish” to take seriously. Fortunately for me, I was so mad at DreamWorks marketing and myself for not seeing movies like Megamind, How to Train Your Dragon, and Rise of the Guardians in theaters that from “The Croods” onwards I vowed to see every DW movie in theaters. And yes, I have stuck to that rule and that’s how my friend and I ended up seeing “Trolls” while in college and surrounded by families with kids everywhere 😂 we have since watched the next two movies together and she indulges in my crazy theories and world building head cannons 😅
"he was too much like genie" ah cool so the already heavily self-referential centennial movie could have had a character inspired by one who is very possibly disneys biggest icon ever after mickey while still keeping him faily distinguishable by making his role in the story different... and we thought this was a _bad_ idea
If they truly didn’t want a love story, just don’t have them kiss. They can have their song, which could technically fit as friends, and everybody and their grandmother would fight online about if they were romantic or not, which is a brilliant ploy for engagement. Like Bruno.
they didn't want starboy to be too powerful compared to asha by being able to transform into anything--and yet a movie like nemona doesn't seem to have this problem, despite her literally turning into a kaiju in the end. Anyway what I'm saying is nemona is just good wish
To be honest, I don’t share everyone’s enthusiasm abt Nimona (I think this cartoon is, well... just normal, I think?), but it was 100 times more interesting.
@@justzombie7594it was actually good not as big as everyone made it sound but probably they hype it cause they have what they consider "a good representation"
@@billykaplan9915 It was GREAT representation, and I loved it, even as a boring, basic cishet girl. Yes, it has pacing issues, but so do highly lauded films, like Into the Spiderverse (for real, why did that scene with Miles webbed to an unconscious Peter take so long).
Nimona was fun, and heartfelt, a great message, and genuinely good jokes that made me laugh so hard I couldn't breathe. The jokes in Wish just made me cringe.
I think the real reason they cut Starboy was because as usual, Disney rushed the film, and they didn't have enough time to animate such a complex character. It's really hard to rig all those puppets, since he's changing form all the time.
@@WobblesandBean Not to mention the suits were all over the production, and kept changing things for the sake of marketing, and other factors the movie shouldn't have to worry about DURING IT. Jennifer Lee's leadership has been nothing short of piss poor given how often the suits have gotten involved on the studio. She has to draw a line in the sand, and tell them to stay out of their way.
Literally every single concept Wish had is so much better than what we got. What the heck happened
yeah its really bizarre. Most disney concept art pales in comparison to the final product, like with Frozen. But with Wish, the concept art looks like they had the potential for something good, it just needed more polish. But the movie ends up looking poorly developed, like they pulled every trope from the disney guide and didn’t do anything new or interesting with it. Also, the movie just reeks of corporate. Aisha being the rapunzel-esque adorkable get-getter heroine, the “follow your dreams” and “believe in yourself” mantra, the pop songs, and the villain being reduced to a cackling mustache curling baddie because the writers couldn’t think of a way to prove him wrong so they just made him go crazy.
It makes me miss old Disney even more!
I would have LOVED to see a Macbeth insanity arc in King whats-his-name. The queen winds him up for her own purposes and suffers the backlash.
Like, for fun? Or for wicked, *twisted, EVIL* purposes?
I honestly feel bad for king magnifico. He was Literally the hero of the story until he just randomly got possessed.
Also, when he got sucked into the staff in the end, doesn't that mean he got out of being possessed? Yet the queen didn't try to figure out if he was still possessed or not and just locked him up? The person she loved for years???
This movie Gave me almost as much of a headache as the end of "orion and the dark" on Netflix 😑
About to be so for real, wouldn’t the wife be able to tell he wasn’t possessed anymore. When the wife saw him in the mirror, wouldn’t see notice that he didn’t have that green glow in his eyes anymore? He literally wasn’t evil enough, he had to be possessed to be considered a villain.
@@random_person54 exactly! Yet she just left him there!
The book was the real villain and we didn't even get to know more about it?
His eyes reverted when the wishes were taken away so I’m assuming that means they broke the spell, but I think the queen’s intentions got lost somewhere in the finale so disney basically uncooked their relationship altogether 😭
I think Magnifico using dark magic bc of his paranoia is an interesting direction, but I think the 0 - 100 jump to evil was too simplistic for a villain that’s “not a twist villain” 🫠
@@CarrieTooTired it's such a shame, because they were such a cute couple 😭
Exactly! It was way too forced!
What would have been better if the deity in the book was the actual villain, using magnifico like a puppet.
@@wooperfan584 my guess is that the book’s magic is just dark fairy magic since the book itself is a reference to Maleficent 🙃 they literally made the same reference for Descendants, but if the green dragon was an anti-life force that feeds on wish magic, we could’ve gotten a cool finale instead of just Green Magnifico 😞
Wish is the RUclips rewind of Disney
sad and true
but without the Will Smith
Disney is sooooo obsessed with the “adorkable independent girl’s girl who don’t need no man” and it’s kinda sad because we need a good romance every once in a while, we can have a character who is independent and confident and also have a romance!!!!
You know, they could've had star boy shape shift into little star from time to time. That way, they could've had a great character and a marketable plushie. Like, when Star boy needs to lie low, he could've shapeshifted to little star.
They don't want the boy. They wanted Asha to girlboss her way through the movie and she can't do that if there is a man in her life. Same reason they got rid of the villain power couple because they can't have the woman in power having faults.
FR like at daytime he may need to recharge or dosent shine as bright so he's in the star form, and at night, when he shines brightest he's in his human form
I’m still bitter about Starboy being replaced with some Great Value Luma. We were severely robbed
I want my disney love story back! Give female characters a love intrest again, they can be strong independent characters AND have a love interest, look at Mulan and Tiana. Screw you Dis Knee.
When I saw that knock off Luma, I knew it was wraps for Wish XD
great value luma LOL
luma? LUMAAAAA😊
The concept art of Asha and Starboy really looks unique and fantastical. Like he is a protector who just wants to fullfill her wish. Like real soulmates.
Wow that art
They didn't give her THE dress T_T Didn't Disney want her in the princess lineup?
Aurora and Tiana have less screen time but more dresses 🫠 even from a non-merchandise perspective wouldn’t it just be fun to have pretty dresses and transformations???
@CarrieTooTired I really wish Asha kept the red in her concept art we dont have any red dress disney princesses
No really, where's the razzle dazzle?! Where's the pretty sparkling gown?!
It was so funny, cuz she seemed like she'd transform when the Star swirled around her at the end... And then... Nothing happened LOL
They did the same thing with the live action Ariel. They actually improved Jasmine’s wardrobe when they did the remake, but Ariel gets one just okay dress. Removed a lot of the magic.
I really hope they fire Jennifer Lee as the creative head. She's clearly not as talented as they thought and the fact that she insulted traditional animation is so bad.
Jennifer Lee got too much credit for writing Frozen, she didn’t even create Elsa-which by the way is the reason why Frozen is so successful. Her writing is subpar and full of plotholes at best and when they give her too much creative control, thats when things go bad. She’s responsible for the atrocious writing of Wish, Frozen 2, and Wreck it ralph 2
IDK. It seems more like a corporate decision to make it this bland.
@@Nopeasaurussame! I legit have never understood why Frozen became so popular, especially when you read into the original concept of Elsa as a full blown villain, and I’m pretty sure she wasn’t even related to Anna either. One song alone is NOT nearly enough to completely change a story to revolve around a single character. The movie isn’t even close to the actual novel of the Snow Queen, who only appears in like two chapters of the entire book.
Frozen 2 was so much worse imo, considering the “fifth spirit” plot originally had a very interesting concept with a mysterious deer spirit, similar to the deer spirit in Princess Mononoke.
@@kristinahuchison2511To be fair, they didn't call Frozen the Snow Queen. It's like how the lion king is based on Hamlet
@@notapplicable6985 that doesn’t change Frozen was still an adaptation of said book, even the villain is named after the author. And to be fair, Elsa was fully intended to be the villain when the story was being written, but when Let it Go was composed, Disney got greedy and thought they could make a lot more money by making Elsa a protagonist instead, and changing the story of having sisterly love instead, giving us two Disney Princesses instead of one. For both Frozen movies they had heavy alternative stories, especially the second one where we actually got to explore Iduna and Agnar’s relationship, and who exactly the fifth spirit was (not Elsa btw) but also the second movie originally planned to have Arendelle destroyed by the dam collapsing as a consequence of their grandfather’s prejudice against the Northoldra people and trying to force them to bow to his rule in Arendelle
26:23 the way you keep making me listen to this part 😭
I honestly was on Magnifico’s side for the entire movie and he didn’t even get super evil to me? He like actually did a lot for the town and also Asha was dead wrong for immediately trying to get something from him. Also he is hot.
Idk what they were thinking by making Asha’s dumb-ass move the kick-off to the main conflict???
But yes Magnifico is so hot holy-
"He is hot"
I had concerns that we had a new tumblr crush on our hands......😆😆
Like, yeah, he was bad and all. But the worst thing he did was use wishes for power- he never even tried to kill anyone. Disney has lost their balls when it comes to dark content. (and I agree that he's hot)
he had a really good reason to be that protective and the punishment he got was really unproportional. they are so used to making twist villains that they kind of... forgot how to make a classic evil for evils sake villain? then tried to apply the rules of a traditional villain on a character who was easily redeemable
@@mariae931 Yesss. So true
Please disney its OKAY to make another tragic love story...
I love the fanmade rewrites, animatics and songs so much. I'm proud of what art thrives when an entire community agrees that the original/old drafts of Wish have so much potential and they go and make it for fun, and FOR FREE. Take that, evil corporate execs!
“get that through your system, solar!” Is now stuck in my head. Thanks
when it come to the suffering we’re all shareholders-
Get that through your system, bipolar!
Wait its solar? I thought they were just randomly saying "SODAAA!!!!" for no reason lol.
How would the Wish characters even KNOW what soda is??? XDDD
@@imlluciddreamer*Joe Biden appears* SODA!!!
I think we need to get a bunch of talented artists to created a 2d-animated "fan" re-creation of Wish to give audiences the version that the audience was robbed of.
What’s disappointing is Disney has PROVEN the can mix mediums before.
I think they just got lazy and rushed the whole thing just so they can CALL it a 100th Anniversary movie and rake in those nostalgia dollars.
@@therealopaartist Disney was very diligent in playing it as safe as possible, and in doing so they created their magnum opus in mediocrity. The creative team really should've stuck to their guns and made the movie they originally wanted to create, even if it would've taken longer. As an old man once said, "You can't rush art."
@@BrendanDobbs-l7o this movie was a terminal disappointment and a waste of my bandwidth. That’s two hours I’ll never get back.
I actually know a RUclipsr whos making her own wish movie! Shes realeasing the storyboards on her channel :)
@@Brownie_ToastyWho?
IGHHHHH WE WERE ROBBED. Fellas, we gotta storm the castle and DEMAND Disney do a full retcon of wish and rewrite it with the original storyboard! Just from the deleted scenes alone the story and dialogue was so much better than the final product
Three things
1. Your avatar is just adorable
2. I really like how chill and mellow you are. It feels really comfortable and authentic. Was perfect to listen to while winding down after a long day.
3. I had a blast watching and look forward to watching from you!
ahhh thank you sm 😭💕
The fact that we could have had a renaissance of a Jack Frost type character through the Starboy in the 2020s is Disney’s most egregious crime right next to its first villain couple. Wish had all the makings to be an amazing film but corporate meddling, keeping up with trends, and trying to copy and paste Encanto’s success killed it.
I think we haven't got good couple vs bad couple for long time.
The more I learn about Wish, the more I refuse to believe the movie wasn't made specifically to spit on the legacy of Walt. There's so many things that went wrong that it's actually impossible NOBODY thought something was wrong. Like they genuinely thought that for their 100th anniversary, they should spit on the legacy of their founder.
15:23 In other words, when it comes to the song "At All Costs", the songwriters wanted to have their cake and eat it too
they pulled a miles morales and smushed both cakes there-
@@CarrieTooTired BAHAHHA A SPIDERVERSE REFERENCE
A lot of people say that from the basic concepts utilized for the story this could have never worked but I've MLP projects (both official & fan made) make these ideas work in less than 1h.
Yeah it definitely felt like a story that was rewritten a lot and needed more time to be workshopped 🫠 in a world where wish didn’t have the burden of being “the big d100 project,” wish could’ve taken some risks that would’ve paid off given the general conversation surrounding it
Disney: oh no no, we can't have Star boy. He's too similar to the Genie from Aladdin
Also Disney: "proceeds to slap Mickey's face into a Luma from Super Mario Galaxy"
Okay, hear me out: If Evil Magnifico wanted to mess with Asha, hurt her in the finale in front of everyone, instead of dragging HER up onto the stage, drag her *Sabino* up there (instead of her or with her) like a perversion of the Wish-granting ceremony Asha wanted for his 100th birthday the whole time. Really rub salt in the wound that Magnifico will NEVER grant Sabino's Wish.
And Asha looks at Sabino and says something like "Saba, I never should have tried to get your wish granted... (gasp, whaaat?) I wanted to become Magnifico's apprentice to help you because... *you are my greatest inspiration!* But you don't need *me* to grant your wish. You don't need _HIM_ (Magnifico) to grant your wish either. *_You,_** Only YOU, can make **_YOUR_** wish come true! ... and you've already showed me you can."*_ And Asha's gentle peptalk is what prompts SABINO to sing the reprise to the people and INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION CROWD TO TAKE THEIR WISHES BACK, demonstrating that everyone has the power in them to try and make their wish come true, and the best way to help guide someone to their dream is with understanding and support, (not just handwavy cheat magic.)
That's actually a lot better than what we got.
This is literally so good!!!! This gives the characters more depth and shows a continuity that was missed with Sabino. It’s like they have no relationship with each other so this would have actually made his wish come true and show her love and connection with her family/friends as they fight for Sabino.
The cut scene you missed is on RUclips. It shows how much of an ACTUAL villain Magnifico could have been! And how much chemistry him and Amaya had, not only as a couple but also as a villain. AND HE TRIES TO STEAL A FREACKING STAR ON THAT SCENE AND TRIES TO EACH A COUPLE OF WISHES LIKE IT WAS NOTHING!!! I'm..... so disappointed at Disney...
I actually saw it a few days ago, their evil villain dynamic was delicious!! also stealing a star is definitely more creative than using a magic green book for sure
@CarrieTooTired definitely! It also makes Magnifico a bigger threat and links him and Amaya to the main characters in a natural way. It gives the story higher stakes, especially for starboy, making the end of the movie much more believable. There's an animatic made by Ariel Samuel about the end, where they put star boy in. It fixed the whole scene and complimented the song in a much better way!
@@luizaraposo2320 Stealing a star also doesn’t take away Magnifico’s agency as a character like an evil book possessing him does. The first one is an active choice he made to gain unimaginable power, but the second one seems to happen to him like he’s Gollum drawn to his “precious,” which could still be really interesting but the devil’s in the details and there was virtually no progression getting him from “well-meaning leader who wants to do right by his kingdom” to “power-hungry, mustache-twirling supervillain.”
In the end I kind of felt bad for him getting locked up in the mirror when as far as I was aware, he was a good king made the victim of a magical curse. The same could be said for Gollum and getting possessed by the ring but at least he actually did truly heinous things to justify being a villain but all Magnifico did was make a few people sad, I guess? Honestly, King Triton acted more villainous than him when he trashed Ariel’s grotto (and he’s not supposed to be a villain).
@colbystearns5066 That's a really good point! It felt to me that they put the book part cause they didn't have a good excuse to make him a villain, and there wasn't enough time in the movie. Idk. It just felt lazy and unfair. For me, it actually makes the queen look like a twist villain who took the opportunity to get the throne just for her.
@@luizaraposo2320It’s fascinating how Queen Amaya was originally meant to be a villain, then was turned into a hero but they forgot to take out the parts where she’s scheming like a villain with the frickin’ magic hand oil(!!!). I’m amazed hardly anyone brings that up in all of the reviews I’ve seen because it’s so infuriating and contrived.
Like did Magnifico ever know about that stuff but just chose not to use it because he’s an idiot who wanted to turn evil or merely forgot to apply it or did he really not know anything about it and Amaya hid it from behind his back knowing he’d fall victim to the book’s curse and she’d be there to take over the kingdom from him? This feels like the movie that keeps on giving with how much wrong there is with it.
The yarn joke with the cat should’ve been enough to include that deleted scene in the final movie
About the scene you missed: it was a scene where Amalia prepared a "potion" for Magnifico. He used it (along with some chants in Latin) to create a sort of "rope of light" to drag down the star from the sky. It was quite dramatic.
In the scene, he fails and has an outburst of rage and frustration where he attempts to eat wishes out of spite. There was a really cool interaction between him and Amalia, who was trying to calm him down and stop him from devouring three wishes:
A: "this is your favourite cook's wish!"
KM: "There are other cooks".
A: "This is your best guard's...and please, this is my mother's!"
KM: "Well, in that case..."(Magnifico tries to sneak it)
A:"Please, be serious!"
It was really a good moment where they established the villain power couple. I think you can still find it on other reaction vids
I actually watched it the other day! loved the dramatic flair 👀 plus the mil joke is so fun
I didn't realize until I thought about the star boy that could've been, but it just struck me how long it's been since we had a chipper upbeat ingenue boy as our romantic lead in a Disney movie. Think about it- we've had Rapunzel and Anna and other bright-eyed optimists, but the dudes are always cynical and dour in comparison because they fulfill the role of rolling their eyes at sincerity and fairy tale stuff. Eugene, Kristoff, and in the non-romantic category we have Maui, Ralph, Nick from Zootopia. Naveen is carefree but he's also spoiled and entitled and spends a lot of time arguing with Tiana. Eric, Simba, Hercules and Milo from Atlantis are closer but they're also from a long time ago. Quasimodo has the sweetness and gentleness but he's also anxious and withdrawn. Aladdin is energetic and fun but too wily to be a naive ingenue. I'm not saying I dislike those characters, but it would've been really refreshing to have a male lead who's really innocent, earnest and energetic in the way you might imagine a personified wishing star could be. The girlies would've loved it.
you pinpointed exactly why mourning the loss of starboy hurts so much that i haven't seen anyone else identify :(
Honestly the only times I can think of the guy being the cheerful one is Simba and Naveen. It’s usually always the girl who’s cheerful
it’s crazy to me that they had an idea for a romance and scrapped it. if this was truly a love letter to disney fantasy princess movies, why would they not have a romance like all the classic fantasy princess movies? ((also there hasn’t been a main disney romance in forever))
☝🏻🤓 because women should not rely on men for success
I feel like it says more about them than the movie that romance cannot exist without some sort of power dynamic. 💀
Oddly enough, I actually want romance back in these movies.
Maybe it’s because women and men NEED each other.
Ok heres my hot take: I see people being glad they got rid of starboy because the romance would've been "too cliché". Ok then! In that case, why couldn't they have kept starboy but just make their bond _platonic??_ It could've been just as powerful, and been _even more_ subversive. Like guy and girl with a deep meningful bond thats not romantic? Wouldn't that be cool!
But no, apparently its sooo much more unique to have star be uh... A fucking plushy? 🙄
I'm one of people who would love them as a couple, but platonic soulmates also sounds beautiful 🥺❤️
Ikr
They Kinda did it In Moana so they can't say it won't work
@@crazycoder2434 Moana, Wreck-It-Ralph and Lilo & Stitch are great examples of platonic pals that I adored...
I'm guessing you mean "subversive" but yeah
It's called wish because you wish it was better :pensive:
Another person with a Hatsune Miku profile picture
Lolll
"Too close to Genie" in a movie that falls back on nostalgia and easter eggs to carry itself.
it reminds me of that one trend:
we could have had starboy?
WE COULD HAVE HAD STARBOY?!
I am internally sobbing as I daydream about an alternate timeline where I'm at the theater, tearing up at a Wish that pays a beautiful homage to classic Disney movies and the inspiring messages Walt has made about following your dreams (and has mute star boy)
9:38 "Asha's group of friends feel excessive"
Now personally, as one of the excessive people in my friend group, I really liked this representation!
I love how the villain of Wish looks VERY similar to the guy who cut out all the good parts of what could have been an amazing movie. It feels satisfying
42:33 Tbh, the energetic twink Starboy really works well with Asha being able to bring him down to earth
It’s crazy how this was supposed to be such a great movie that would be memorable for years to come but instead became something people will find forgettable and ignore for years to come. 😭
The Wish was so bad that many suspected that the movie was written and generated by AI. However, this is apparently not the case, instead the film was re-written and re-edited many times before it took its final shape. For example, Asha's romance with the star boy and the queen's villainess were unfortunately elements that didn't pass the approval of Disney's jury of sensitivity readers. And while in some cases sensitivity readers can be useful, such as in consulting, in this case its use ate away a lot from the film. However, I would still be interested to know what the jury's reasons for these changes were, because it is important data and part of the film's development history.
The only thing worse than AI writing: studio executive meddling.
sensitivity readers couldn’t handle a romance because romance makes us women weak.
I think love makes people strong, see sailor moon. Who's love is her greatest weapon
@@Nopeasaurushiiiiiiiiiii
Most people when they see S(he) Be(lie)ve(d): "He lied"
Me: "SBeve"
They missed a HUGE opportunity to wow us with gorgeous constellation visuals, you know...Actually using the theme of stars and space? Wish is so visually boring it hurts; everyone knows how stunningly beautiful the night sky is with no pollution, there's no love, no flavor, everything is so flat.
God, I would love a Villain Couple. I would kill for a really good evil duo who are also in love. I want them to have a healthy relationship with one another but be utterly toxic to everyone else.
Somebody else write me that story, because Disney ain't gonna do it.
I was wondering about the queen and how she was just okay with sealing away her husband, when it was the magic that was corrupting him...
I reccomend the Venture Bros, the Monarch and Dr. Mrs. The Monarch fill that