It was very common for kings to have mistresses in this period for a very strong reason. In an age when childbirth was so dangerous and infant mortality so high, having children with mistresses protected the King from accusations of being unable to produce healthy children and allowed him to blame his queen
Mary was one of the luckier women in Henry's orbit. I shudder to think what would have happened to her had she married Henry. After all, just because she had 5 children with another man doesn't mean that she'd have even one with Henry.
How many women was Henry involved with? Six wives and so many mistresses. He must have been a busy man. She was lucky to have not married Henry, otherwise Henry would have ruined seven wives.
@@charlottemunday7311 , true, but both Charles and Louis acknowledged all their bastards, were generous with their mistresses and didn't kill their wives, even though Charles' wife never had any children.
Thank you. Wouldn’t it be interesting to know what could have happened. She had 5 children with her husband , I wonder how it would have gone with Henry 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I wonder if he suffered from brain injury like a football player might. I think called CTE? He got knocked on his ass a lot and one time for over a week. I’m sure he had many concussions. Not that’s an excuse to be a royal prick. Just wondering.
@@boonswithbenedictions8468 he seemed fine as a young man. He was happy and loyal to Katherine. Then after a bad jousting match gone wrong, or right for the winner, and he was out for like 2 weeks. I may be getting my times off but after that he seemed different.
@@shelleysprouse5687 it's in the genetics they show their colors late in life. In the process when he was growing he must have had experienced many difficulties and frustration which later made him a complete despot.
I wonder if it were true that Norris wouldn't marry her. That is why he argued with Henry. After Henry cast her off, was Norris eyeing Jane Seymour or really eyeing Anne.
The Sheltons were actually very close to the Boleyns and in the church St Mary’s there is stained glass referencing the Boleyn bull. Ralph, 26th Lord Shelton was married to Anne Boleyn, the sister of Thomas Boleyn. It’s honestly amazing that they stayed in favor from Henry all the way to James
Were there ANY female names in Tudor England other than Mary, Anne, Katherine and Elizabeth? Oh and the odd Margaret? It's always surprised me that Amy Dudley was called Amy Dudley because that sounds totally 21st century 😋
I don't think so, thousands of people were executed in Yorkshire at Henry's orders. Men, women and children, because they were against the disillusion of the monasteries. Henry was crazy.
@@leonieromanes7265 it was known as the dissolution of the monasteries, Leonie. Also, over time, the Tudors basically eliminated all possible rival claimants to the throne. Sometimes deserved (treasonous plots), sometimes not. The Courtenays & the Poles were potentially the threat to the Tudor dynasty.
Do also notice when seeing past history pictures, how the image may be the same person under aka's; and very much look a likes, such as John Smith, Walter Releigh and others, like George Washington and Horatio Gates very similar looking in paintings and places among others people, places and things. Many of them had dealings with a lot of the same people .
Probably, because I think I seen her name elsewhere and she was married to someone else or relation through family while I was looking at surname lists; just don't remember which one and could be a different person all together.
Imagine the culture fighting against nature. Your husband is allowed to sleep with whoever and will mostly like get with whoever he wants because he’s the king. I couldn’t handle it, at any given moment he could be with someone else and he doesn’t feel bad about it.
No one cares, but I just found out that this woman's mother is my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother.
Was probably lucky for her that she was only a mistress!
She was merely the Boleyn family's place-holder in the King's bed while Anne was pregnant. e.g. not from a rival family like the Seymour clan.
It was very common for kings to have mistresses in this period for a very strong reason. In an age when childbirth was so dangerous and infant mortality so high, having children with mistresses protected the King from accusations of being unable to produce healthy children and allowed him to blame his queen
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Mary was one of the luckier women in Henry's orbit. I shudder to think what would have happened to her had she married Henry. After all, just because she had 5 children with another man doesn't mean that she'd have even one with Henry.
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How many women was Henry involved with? Six wives and so many mistresses. He must have been a busy man. She was lucky to have not married Henry, otherwise Henry would have ruined seven wives.
In fairness go check out King Charles the 2nd or Louis the 14ths mistress list, its staggering (and many illegitimate children too).
@@charlottemunday7311 , true, but both Charles and Louis acknowledged all their bastards, were generous with their mistresses and didn't kill their wives, even though Charles' wife never had any children.
Lol his P always up
Thank you. Wouldn’t it be interesting to know what could have happened. She had 5 children with her husband , I wonder how it would have gone with Henry 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Not well. He passed diseases onto his unborn children, such as golden staphylococcus.
Very little is good to be spoken of Henry the eighth.
I wonder if he suffered from brain injury like a football player might. I think called CTE? He got knocked on his ass a lot and one time for over a week. I’m sure he had many concussions. Not that’s an excuse to be a royal prick. Just wondering.
@@shelleysprouse5687 I think he was a psychopath
@@boonswithbenedictions8468 he seemed fine as a young man. He was happy and loyal to Katherine. Then after a bad jousting match gone wrong, or right for the winner, and he was out for like 2 weeks. I may be getting my times off but after that he seemed different.
@@shelleysprouse5687 it's in the genetics they show their colors late in life. In the process when he was growing he must have had experienced many difficulties and frustration which later made him a complete despot.
I wonder if it were true that Norris wouldn't marry her. That is why he argued with Henry. After Henry cast her off, was Norris eyeing Jane Seymour or really eyeing Anne.
Mary and her family are my distant relatives and it’s been so cool figuring out all of the Tudor history
The Sheltons were actually very close to the Boleyns and in the church St Mary’s there is stained glass referencing the Boleyn bull. Ralph, 26th Lord Shelton was married to Anne Boleyn, the sister of Thomas Boleyn. It’s honestly amazing that they stayed in favor from Henry all the way to James
Were there ANY female names in Tudor England other than Mary, Anne, Katherine and Elizabeth? Oh and the odd Margaret? It's always surprised me that Amy Dudley was called Amy Dudley because that sounds totally 21st century 😋
I’ve read of 1 Lucy too! Very bizaree
Cecily, Isobel, Eleanor and Jayne, can't forget Jane.
For goodness sake, start reading some books, then you won’t make such juvenile remarks.
@@AbbyGirl11 For goodness sakes, it's obvious I was just being a little jocular and tongue in cheek. I do read books.
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Very interesting! That 70,000 number is a contemporary exaggeration.
I don't think so, thousands of people were executed in Yorkshire at Henry's orders. Men, women and children, because they were against the disillusion of the monasteries. Henry was crazy.
@@leonieromanes7265 it was known as the dissolution of the monasteries, Leonie. Also, over time, the Tudors basically eliminated all possible rival claimants to the throne. Sometimes deserved (treasonous plots), sometimes not. The Courtenays & the Poles were potentially the threat to the Tudor dynasty.
@@bluerock4456 yes I've read about poor Margaret Pole and her brother and children.
What were they doing with the black bricks in the alley leading to the kitchen? These were supposed to be a Diamond pattern no?? Any ideas?
Do also notice when seeing past history pictures, how the image may be the same person under aka's; and very much look a likes, such as John Smith, Walter Releigh and others, like George Washington and Horatio Gates very similar looking in paintings and places among others people, places and things. Many of them had dealings with a lot of the same people .
I wonder what would have happened if she had married Henry - an interesting thought.
Probably, because I think I seen her name elsewhere and she was married to someone else or relation through family while I was looking at surname lists; just don't remember which one and could be a different person all together.
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Imagine the culture fighting against nature. Your husband is allowed to sleep with whoever and will mostly like get with whoever he wants because he’s the king. I couldn’t handle it, at any given moment he could be with someone else and he doesn’t feel bad about it.
I thought her name was Margaret, or Madge
Margaret (or Madge) was Mary's sister.
Through my Dad's side of the family I am a direct descendant of Sheltons.
I understand thatMadge was Henry's mistress not this Mary
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No one cares, but I just found out that this woman's mother is my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother.
I dislike henry 8th so much I cldnt carel less...however, no disrespect because you do awesome documentaries....
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Was probably lucky for her that she was only a mistress!