Butler's such a smart, perceptive defender that studies his opponent's tendencies/habits. Not to mention that he moves his feet (stays in front of his man) exceptionally well. Really blossoming into a terrific player.
What makes J. Butler a great defender is how he uses his body to it's full potential. He has great length and size so he always can get close and stop his opponent from moving easily. If his offense was more consistent, I think he could be a All-Star.
they are both free agents after this year. i was thinking the bulls sign butler and kawhi imagine their defense? it would be great!( and with noah) i think they gotta do it and screw drose he cant stay healthy even tho hes my favorite player
Ok so LeBron averaged like 24 points in this series. Do you realize that he shot 45% against the bulls? Jimmy was really playing great defense on him. LeBron is usually shooting around the 60% range so you can say that the Bulls defense really gave him trouble.
Now butler a better perimeter defender. He is going to guard LeBron, he wants it and he more mature! Good match up 2020. If he could guard prime LeBron, cant imagine now.
That's pretty good compared to other "LeBron Stoppers" such as Paul George who held him to something like 26.8. Butler also held LeBron to like 45% shooting while PG only held him to 55%.
Kobe and jordan could make these shots all day, funny how the greatest player couldn't shoot jumpshots when someone d's him up really good while kobe and jordan can make it rain with a much more complicated turn around fade away shots.
If I was LeBron's coach, I would've been upset with him over that first play. You don't stop playing and complain about being fouled to the Ref! You keep on playing through, regardless of whether the foul is called or not. On that pick in the corner, he could've trapped him and maybe gotten a steal...
his defense and athleticism is outstanding. If he develops a consistent jumper, there is nothing wrong with assuming he can be an all-star or the 2nd option the Bulls have long desired. There have been games where his defense and hustle single handedly gave us the momentum to win the game, like the game against Miami (their 27 game streak) where he made 2 consistent steals and that brought us back into the game.
It's not a matter of being lazy or not being lazy, Jimmy is just better at defending LeBron than anyone else in the world. Jimmy promised to defend LeBron and Kobe better than anybody in the NBA when he came in the league, and he wasn't lying.
The way Thibs runs the defense is called no middle which is forcing the opponent towards the sidelines and forcing them to shoot midranges and threes which are less efficient than the postgame. If they do go towards the middle there is help defense already set aka Booz and Jo. If you watch Jimmy's foot placement you see that its placed to try to keep the no middle rule running.
Butler probably bothers Lebron more because of his quickness and overall length..rather than deng, deng would just give lebron as much space as possible and dare him to shoot over him..this worked in his cleveland days but not now..lebron is a POINT FORWARD...a combo between point guard and a forward. The best way to defend is to give him as little space as possible,yet doing so while preventing him from driving past you.Butler does this the best. Lebron had his FG % increased from fast breaks
i am not lebron's hater(i think he is the best the last 4 years) but i watch bulter keep lebron in 23p and 44fg% and then i watch a video of old,injured and not prime larry bird dominating scottie pippen!i am sorry but bird was much better than lebron....larry avg 26p-8-7 and 51fg% against one of the best perimeter defender ever from 1988-1992 in 15 games!
+Andreas GR Lebron is amazing.But most of that is his size.He has an advantage every.single.night.Just stronger,faster and bigger than anyone that guards him.Statisticallt yes Lebron is better than Bird but when its time to show up Larry performed better.
Sahil Pawar well i think that even statistically Bird in his prime avg 27-10-7 and Lebron avg 28-7-7 or something but he is still in his prime while Bird play until 36-37 and his stats dropped...the same would happen with Lebron as he get older!
Andreas GR I think its 24-6-10 and Lebron is 27-7-7,pretty much even but Bird did it on skills and Lebron as smart as he is has an enormous physical advantage.
I think it goes back to what an NBA TV Analyst named Jalen Rose said: you are what your skill set is. That's why jordan, pippen, kobe, etc. bring the ball up and make plays instead of the point guard because they are good or better ball handlers. Or in the case of Jordan, kobe and lebron, they bring the ball up, then they get doubled and kick it to an open teammate. Also, paxson and armstrong were shooters more than the primary ball handler
Butler and Gibson are the 2 that bulls fans need to keep their eyes on. Butler is constantly AND consistently getting better and we know Gibson is very good defensively and offensively but he kinda feel off (a little) but I think he will be focused and ready this season. We want that championship and we know what rose can do and we know Noah will work hard.
You also have to consider how depleted the entire Chicago roster was as a result of injuries. Also, Butler played 48 minute games back to back to back.
you can never stop greatness, you can only make them work harder. I hoping to see a rematch of the bulls-heat on the ECF, one of the best rivals there is now!
PG Rose SG Butler SF Deng PF Boozer C Noah 6th Man Hinrich To Either sub in for rose Or Butler And When Deng needs Rest Jimmy Can Play the 3 The amount of defense in the bulls is just crazy
Thats exactly what im talking about he played good for a portion of the season and now bulls fan are acting like he's a top 10 sg. He hasn't even started over 20 games
The best game that Lebron had against the Bulls was after the Heat lost game 1. He came out killing Butler in game 2. He could have dropped 50 if it wasn't such a blow out. I need to see Lebron get shut down for an entire series, with the other team winning the series. Then I'll qualify it as a "shut down." He plays his best when you push him against a wall.
Even if u dont like the bulls u gotta give butler credit hes been in the league for like 2, or 3 yrs and has already shut down kobe and lebron this kid is definetly gonna be some help for rose
thibs has been saying all summer that butler is the starting SG. hinrich is way more useful as the backup PG (over marquis) than at starting PG. they may use the rotation occasionally in games with rose as SG, but it will NOT be the starting lineup
Switching Butler on LeBron and outting Deng on Wade is a good idea. Deng will bother wade with his length and he could sag off of him and butler seems to have the lateral quickness to keep lebron getting to the rim over and over
Butler did a good job at stopping Lebron from penetrating to the hoop. Lebron doesnt usually crossover or he cant really break you down off of the dribble. Best and most effective way to guard Lebron is to give him the Rajon Rondo treatment and dare him to shoot. Some days he's on some days he's off but I'd rather that then him being more efficient under the basket.
what did you want him to hold lebron to only 14? no one can completely stop lebron, but butler did a good job making lebron work for the points and making him tired. If butler didn't play good defense lebron could have scored 30+
im coming back in 2 1/2 months (actually a little bit more) when the regular season starts & Bulls have kirk & rose in the back court...thibs said he loves how hinrich runs the offense so im guessing he'll keep him as a starter & then obviously rose being who he is will be a starter.
lebron shot 45% in the finals and they still won. The heat can brace lebron shooting a low % as long as he is aggressive from what i have witnessed. Although... Jimmy did the best job on lebron easily. However, the bulls scheme was also the best guarding lebron. People need to give jimmy credit regardless... jimmy defended some of the best this yr at a very high level.
Could you make highlights from his defense against LeBron from the 2015 series? Butler is a great defender. Problem is, LeBron is much smarter than he was when the Spurs and Celtics first exploited his lack of a reliable jump shot. Now he'll find the open man or go to the rim when his jumper isn't falling. Butler did the best he could against a player like LeBron in both series, but you can only keep a guy off his game for so long.
the way to shut james down is to have him disappear from parts of the game meaning deny him opportunities to get the ball and to make him an shooter spurs had the best formula on james i believe bulls should use that methods because they have way more athletic players than spurs do and they really get under the heat skin
yeah...everyone here already let me know that thibs wants butler @ the 2...but like i said rose can play the 2 & still bring the ball up, like you pointed out jordan, kobe, lebron bring the ball up & set up their teammates when they get doubled, rose can do the same..& also rose & hinrich can take turns bringing the ball up after all thibs like the way kirk runs the offense.
Bulls were playing with their 3rd string point guard as a starter... obviously they couldn't win without Rose, Hinrich, or Deng. It's hard to beat a great team without key players. Bulls put up a fight :) it's why I love the bulls.. always putting up a fight no matter how many star players are missing. :D
If there is a guy in the NBA to contain Lebron James, it would be Jimmy Butler. Not only does he cause Lebron to miss shots, but he's one of the few people that are willing to body up Lebron and pressure him.
It's funny that you say no one can prove you wrong about both Captain Kirk and D-Rose being in the starting lineup, yet you can't prove it will happen. Nut up.
That's just good defense. Jimmy was exaggerating contact. If he hadn't, the foul wouldn't have been called. There was a foul, though. A flop is when you draw a foul for something that wasn't really a foul.
So just because he didn't score as much means he was no where to be found? I mean haters are so quick to say what he did bad but just ignore everything good he did.
The Bulls did a great job on Lebron as a team. But the only time he felt threatened by the Bulls was after losing game 1. Then he came out killing in game 2. He could have scored 50 if it wasn't for the blow out. When it's winning time, Lebron plays his best. The evidence is clear after his back to back titles. So when you can check Lebron for an entire series and beat his team, then you can say you shut him down.
its not every day you see a late first round pick play up to this level and play great defense against the best player in the NBA especially when he is undersized against Bron.
If Thibodeau loves the way Hinrich runs the offense so much why isn't he starting? I think Thibodeau knows what he's doing more than you do. Yeah Kirk is a good defender but Rose has improved a lot defensively under the coaching of Thibodeau. And I doubt that Hinrich did that much effect on Rose like you are overstating. The only player I've seen Hinrich shut down is Deron Williams in this years playoffs. And I prefer having Butler defend SG like Kobe Bryant and D Wade and have Rose defend PG
continuing: lebron isn't a PG & look how many assist he gets...rose can play SG & still be the play maker...i just think there is so much talent at PG now that i think hinrich should guard them so rose can save his energy for offense...& hinrich can keep fast players like rose (when they weren't teammates),rondo, westbrook, parker in front of him.
ok so maybe im wrong about rose playing SG, but since when do teams or players play their position? isn't it the pg that brings the ball up & sets up plays? then why would jordan or pippen bring it up & not paxson or armstrong...kobe, odom bring up the ball not fisher, lebron brings up the ball not chalmers..rose can play SG & still bring the ball up & set up plays while hinrich guards the SG or they can switch, kirk brings the ball up & call out plays (cuz thibs likes how he runs the offense)
you actually saw a 12 yr old use that rotation?....people are complaining "why would I want rose @ SG when he's so good as a PG"...if he played SG his stats would be EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME!..he can start @ SG & still be a play maker like a PG. like I said i think there is a lot of talent @ PG now so I rather have kirk guard them than rose so rose doesn't get in foul trouble, plus kirk does a great job of keeping players in front of him.
the one thing that LeBron is missing in his game is that crossover pullup jumper. iv never actually seen him hit that shot consistently. he needs more handles, cant just expect to predetermine his drive and let his athleticsm beat everyone
of course. LeBron's the best player in the game right now but that great ball handling skills is the only considerable aspect that would really take his game to an even greater level. Durant is nearly 7 ft tall and look at his handles, but yeah I know that LeBron is human
Nope. Help defense helped buter a lot. Deng is a much better defender on lebron as he doesn't force the help defense to bail him out as much or play more aggressive causing the bulls defense to rotate out of position.
This is the reason the BULLS will shock the world and beat the HEAT. Drose has never played with a athletic wing like BUTLER and the addition of rose alone will have the BULLS win there 7th title.
Lebron shot 12% less and 4 TO in that series than he did in the regular season???! If 12% less doesnt qaulify as "shut down", what does? the heat rely on lebron shooting such a high %, 44% isnt terrible for other teams but it is for the heat.
top10 in the history? 'Greatest' players should not be eaily defensed by very young defenders like bulter and leonard. Mj, kobe, shaq, td never have troubles when they meet young defenders. And some guys tell us lbj can compare with those four 'greatest' players? Ridiculous!
Best way to guard Lebron is if you have quick feet play as close to him as possible without fouling as jimmy Butler was doing or play him like Rajon Rondo and backup anticipating the drive and make Lebron a jumpshooter .. (of course you dont back up as much farther Lebron as you do Rondo lol)
This is hardly any defense from Butler, LeBron just missed open jumpers, got bad passes from teammates, and the bulls interior defense deflected his passes. But of course lets hype this guys up.
A good defender does not necessary need steals, blocks and rebound to defend. Sometimes wearing out a opponent's stamina and force tough shot are also part of defence. He could be the best right after Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen and Gary Payton. He could play 48min game, with such stamina, and defense skills, Jimmy Butler has huge potential. However I wish to see more on his offence skill.
How many shots were contested and how many times did he cut off lebron from going to the rim. Defense is about making the attacker take the toughest shots and almost 90% were off contested shots where lebron had to work for them yet still misses.
The title is so misleading. You can see the defense is all thibs. Look at the extra defensive help on lebron james. Quite sad that bulls fans don't even realize how great of a coach they have. The guy is revolutionizing basketball and they attribute it to butler. How sad.
jimmy is a great defender no doubt but look at the rest of the bulls and the attention given to lebron its team defense that is the strength of bulls you must be crazy if you think butler and guard lebron 1 on 1
your so wrong every article and interview I've read has said that jimmy WILL be the starting SG, id delete that comment if i were you because everyone knows hinrich will be coming off the bench and we might have to laugh at you sir
#1 you must not watch the Bulls play, hinrich is an excellent defender ( was better than rose when he 1st started & probably still a better defender) coach thibodeau likes how kirk runs the offense. #2 when do players play their position? rose can play SG but bring the ball up like a PG...lebron is a SF & he plays like a PG..rose & hinrich can take turns bringing the ball up.
well speaking of kobe & wade, kirk also does a great job on them so if Bulls play a team like miami kirk can defend wade & rose can take chalmers..did you see that play where wade stole the ball from kirk & kirk didn't let him score? wade tried to take kirk & kirk forced him into a tough shot..he's held kobe to 43% or less shooting several times. I do agree that rose has improved as a defender, I remember i hated him as a rookie cuz he looked confused as to who he was guarding.
Well when you have subpar, inconsistent play makers point guards like a Kirk Hinrich or a Mario Chalmers then of course you have to give the ball to your best decision maker. But in the case you have a Derrick Rose running the show, you let him make whatever decision he wants. My point is I would rather have Rose running my team than Hinrich any day. Oh and the Jordan and Pippen thing, of course they had to handle the ball themselves. Or do you think John Paxson or Bj Armstrong were better?
He needs the ball in his hands to be effective, he is becoming a better decision maker, already is a good distributer and after 5 to 6 years of playing PG you think he can adapt to just shooting the ball at SG while having a subpar PG like Hinrich at starter? Go smoke a joint somewhere else bro.
MrKing8050 And remember it wasn't just Rose; Deng was out that whole series. Chicago didn't have their two best players -- every game should have been a blowout
trunkatedpig the Bulls team were way better overall in 2011 than they have been the last 2 yrs...like taj gibson said recently this team now with pau is starting to look deep like the 2011 team was.
Wow and people compare him to jordan? Smh in jordans era he was being doubled, tripled and sometimes 4 defenders are stopping him because he is that great! And he still manages to finish at the rim! 90's are a much more physical era than today, if the present chicago bulls and jimmy buttler can lock down lebron, then the old bulls would shut him down completely! if lebron plays sg, he'll be guarded by the greatest ever mj who is a very defensive player, can steal the ball if lebrons slacking off, he could block his shots especially with that hangtime, and intercept the ball in the passing lane, if he plays sf he'll be guarded by pippen who is a star stopper he can steal, lock you down, block your shots, and intimidate you with his long arms, and can guard all 4 positions easily sometimes 5, if he tries to play pf, we all know rodman would shut him down completely, he'd be so physical lebron would cry, he would out rebound him in the post! the best position for james if he played in the 90's era would be point guard lol.
put jimmy butler on his ass too and the same result will happen. Note: Jordan wasn't matched up with people physically capable of guarding him jimmy butler, kwahi leonard, and LeBron are all physically capable of guarding Jordan.
Jjay i think you should watch who guards jordan, they are all formidable than the guys you've mentioned, and much more physical, its just that jordan was so good he made them look like a scrub.
thanks I know people tell me I'm funny, but jimmy butler is a very physical player and so is joe dumars but he is not stronger than jimmy butler you can even see in this video. Look at it again
Sorry but the title is miseading no one has ever been able to guard/shut down LeBron 1-1 this is called TEAM DEFENCE and chicago are the best at it because Tom Thibodeau is the best defensive coach in the NBA.
Butler's such a smart, perceptive defender that studies his opponent's tendencies/habits. Not to mention that he moves his feet (stays in front of his man) exceptionally well. Really blossoming into a terrific player.
And now hes in the finals! Playing against bron
as a heat fan, if jimmy butler can do this, then who said pippen can't guard lebron?
especially with the defensive changes that are made today.
kingike25319 who cares about hypothetical match ups smh
kingike25319 now we got jimmy lol heat nation
Jaleel Dean y’all in the finals baby!
What makes J. Butler a great defender is how he uses his body to it's full potential. He has great length and size so he always can get close and stop his opponent from moving easily. If his offense was more consistent, I think he could be a All-Star.
I think he read your comment lol
Lmao if he read my comment then he owes me!
lol
u right
This comment aged well.
Ok
Butler and Leonard on one team under Tibs as coach. Shiiiiiet, I reckon they could mimic MJ/Pip type of defense.
Hell yeah! You got Kwahi with the big hands like Jordan, and Butler with the defense of Pippen. That'd be deadly!
How about under pop
I like that too
they are both free agents after this year. i was thinking the bulls sign butler and kawhi imagine their defense? it would be great!( and with noah) i think they gotta do it and screw drose he cant stay healthy even tho hes my favorite player
broly saiyan but they cant work together without a good pg
Ok so LeBron averaged like 24 points in this series. Do you realize that he shot 45% against the bulls? Jimmy was really playing great defense on him. LeBron is usually shooting around the 60% range so you can say that the Bulls defense really gave him trouble.
Now butler a better perimeter defender. He is going to guard LeBron, he wants it and he more mature! Good match up 2020. If he could guard prime LeBron, cant imagine now.
2020 Bron still own the league 💛💜🏆🐐
That Lebron was still not as dangerous as the current lebron (2020). He now manages to move better under pressure and it lethal from outside.
whose hear after they both in the finals
Jimmy is about to do this in the Finals 2020
hey hey🤟🏼
not really
My god Jimmy butler has hella improved since then !
Jimmy Butler plays solid defence also the bulls have very good defence
That's pretty good compared to other "LeBron Stoppers" such as Paul George who held him to something like 26.8. Butler also held LeBron to like 45% shooting while PG only held him to 55%.
Jimmy Butler is quickly becoming my favorite player.
He has got to be in the starting lineup next year, he is such a beast and a rapidly growing player in the nba
Kobe and jordan could make these shots all day, funny how the greatest player couldn't shoot jumpshots when someone d's him up really good while kobe and jordan can make it rain with a much more complicated turn around fade away shots.
I believe you've watched a little too many highlight videos, youngblood
***** lol yeah iv'e watched a lot of highlights, kobe and jordan's highlight s that is, grandpa, just say it lebron is nothing compared to those two.
boypula yeah highlight vids don't tell the whole story my friend
Jjay lol i actually watch the game dude.
boypula
since you like highlights go watch these 2: /watch?v=HLMZOVsyw1g & /watch?v=YswvPYW6L_Q
If I was LeBron's coach, I would've been upset with him over that first play. You don't stop playing and complain about being fouled to the Ref! You keep on playing through, regardless of whether the foul is called or not. On that pick in the corner, he could've trapped him and maybe gotten a steal...
#1 jimmy supporter...plz post one against joe johnson and melo
lebron james shooting stats vs bulls in the postseason;
47% from the field, 34% from beyond the arc. 2.7 to per game
this guy really can defend.
It was 45%, but still holding LeBron to that shooting was amazing
his defense and athleticism is outstanding. If he develops a consistent jumper, there is nothing wrong with assuming he can be an all-star or the 2nd option the Bulls have long desired.
There have been games where his defense and hustle single handedly gave us the momentum to win the game, like the game against Miami (their 27 game streak) where he made 2 consistent steals and that brought us back into the game.
It's not a matter of being lazy or not being lazy, Jimmy is just better at defending LeBron than anyone else in the world. Jimmy promised to defend LeBron and Kobe better than anybody in the NBA when he came in the league, and he wasn't lying.
The way Thibs runs the defense is called no middle which is forcing the opponent towards the sidelines and forcing them to shoot midranges and threes which are less efficient than the postgame. If they do go towards the middle there is help defense already set aka Booz and Jo. If you watch Jimmy's foot placement you see that its placed to try to keep the no middle rule running.
no one is saying that. They are just saying he has the potential this year to reach that. I could see him averaging 15 points this season tbh.
Butler probably bothers Lebron more because of his quickness and overall length..rather than deng, deng would just give lebron as much space as possible and dare him to shoot over him..this worked in his cleveland days but not now..lebron is a POINT FORWARD...a combo between point guard and a forward.
The best way to defend is to give him as little space as possible,yet doing so while preventing him from driving past you.Butler does this the best.
Lebron had his FG % increased from fast breaks
i am not lebron's hater(i think he is the best the last 4 years) but i watch bulter keep lebron in 23p and 44fg% and then i watch a video of old,injured and not prime larry bird dominating scottie pippen!i am sorry but bird was much better than lebron....larry avg 26p-8-7 and 51fg% against one of the best perimeter defender ever from 1988-1992 in 15 games!
i had bird as the best SF for a long time & felt no one would pass him...but lebron is definitely the best SF now.
Not "one of the best perimeter" defenders he is the best perimeter defender to play this game.
+Andreas GR Lebron is amazing.But most of that is his size.He has an advantage every.single.night.Just stronger,faster and bigger than anyone that guards him.Statisticallt yes Lebron is better than Bird but when its time to show up Larry performed better.
Sahil Pawar well i think that even statistically Bird in his prime avg 27-10-7 and Lebron avg 28-7-7 or something but he is still in his prime while Bird play until 36-37 and his stats dropped...the same would happen with Lebron as he get older!
Andreas GR I think its 24-6-10 and Lebron is 27-7-7,pretty much even but Bird did it on skills and Lebron as smart as he is has an enormous physical advantage.
No, its been all in local newspapers and Thibs has came out in interviews and stated that Jimmy would be the starting 2 guard
I think it goes back to what an NBA TV Analyst named Jalen Rose said: you are what your skill set is. That's why jordan, pippen, kobe, etc. bring the ball up and make plays instead of the point guard because they are good or better ball handlers. Or in the case of Jordan, kobe and lebron, they bring the ball up, then they get doubled and kick it to an open teammate. Also, paxson and armstrong were shooters more than the primary ball handler
Butler and Gibson are the 2 that bulls fans need to keep their eyes on. Butler is constantly AND consistently getting better and we know Gibson is very good defensively and offensively but he kinda feel off (a little) but I think he will be focused and ready this season. We want that championship and we know what rose can do and we know Noah will work hard.
You also have to consider how depleted the entire Chicago roster was as a result of injuries. Also, Butler played 48 minute games back to back to back.
you can never stop greatness, you can only make them work harder.
I hoping to see a rematch of the bulls-heat on the ECF, one of the best rivals there is now!
PG Rose SG Butler SF Deng PF Boozer C Noah 6th Man Hinrich To Either sub in for rose Or Butler And When Deng needs Rest Jimmy Can Play the 3 The amount of defense in the bulls is just crazy
Thats exactly what im talking about he played good for a portion of the season and now bulls fan are acting like he's a top 10 sg. He hasn't even started over 20 games
how do you get Bulls info? do you live in chicago?...i live in california, i haven't heard any of this...is this on the Bulls website?
The best game that Lebron had against the Bulls was after the Heat lost game 1. He came out killing Butler in game 2. He could have dropped 50 if it wasn't such a blow out.
I need to see Lebron get shut down for an entire series, with the other team winning the series. Then I'll qualify it as a "shut down." He plays his best when you push him against a wall.
On 43% shooting. Butler did his job.
Jimmy gets low and bends his knees in just like MJ on D!!!
whos been here after the game 6 of celtics heat
Right here bro 🤣
Even if u dont like the bulls u gotta give butler credit hes been in the league for like 2, or 3 yrs and has already shut down kobe and lebron this kid is definetly gonna be some help for rose
Great defense
Jimmy ain't even in his prime yet... If The Bulls stay healthy it's curtains for the Heat....Rose & jimmy in the back court that's a scary sight !
thibs has been saying all summer that butler is the starting SG. hinrich is way more useful as the backup PG (over marquis) than at starting PG. they may use the rotation occasionally in games with rose as SG, but it will NOT be the starting lineup
Give Jimmy his props. He's a top-notch defender, but this is largely team defense by the Chicago Bulls. Nobody can contain LeBron one-on-one.
The title says nothing about shutting him down tho. This (along with the Spurs series) just shows he can be slowed
Switching Butler on LeBron and outting Deng on Wade is a good idea. Deng will bother wade with his length and he could sag off of him and butler seems to have the lateral quickness to keep lebron getting to the rim over and over
ive seen this kid score 28 points like its nothing. he can do it
Well done from Butler!
Butler did a good job at stopping Lebron from penetrating to the hoop. Lebron doesnt usually crossover or he cant really break you down off of the dribble. Best and most effective way to guard Lebron is to give him the Rajon Rondo treatment and dare him to shoot. Some days he's on some days he's off but I'd rather that then him being more efficient under the basket.
If you're a Bulls fan or a Lebron hater, EVERY foul against his defender is a "ghost" foul.
He isn't being a troll. Putting Rose at SG is the dumbest thing you could do
what did you want him to hold lebron to only 14? no one can completely stop lebron, but butler did a good job making lebron work for the points and making him tired. If butler didn't play good defense lebron could have scored 30+
im coming back in 2 1/2 months (actually a little bit more) when the regular season starts & Bulls have kirk & rose in the back court...thibs said he loves how hinrich runs the offense so im guessing he'll keep him as a starter & then obviously rose being who he is will be a starter.
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Lebron travels. He moves his pivot foot.
lebron shot 45% in the finals and they still won. The heat can brace lebron shooting a low % as long as he is aggressive from what i have witnessed. Although... Jimmy did the best job on lebron easily. However, the bulls scheme was also the best guarding lebron. People need to give jimmy credit regardless... jimmy defended some of the best this yr at a very high level.
Could you make highlights from his defense against LeBron from the 2015 series? Butler is a great defender. Problem is, LeBron is much smarter than he was when the Spurs and Celtics first exploited his lack of a reliable jump shot. Now he'll find the open man or go to the rim when his jumper isn't falling. Butler did the best he could against a player like LeBron in both series, but you can only keep a guy off his game for so long.
the way to shut james down is to have him disappear from parts of the game meaning deny him opportunities to get the ball and to make him an shooter spurs had the best formula on james i believe bulls should use that methods because they have way more athletic players than spurs do and they really get under the heat skin
3:00 that drive on Lebron though, fearless!
yeah...everyone here already let me know that thibs wants butler @ the 2...but like i said rose can play the 2 & still bring the ball up, like you pointed out jordan, kobe, lebron bring the ball up & set up their teammates when they get doubled, rose can do the same..& also rose & hinrich can take turns bringing the ball up after all thibs like the way kirk runs the offense.
lbj would call it foul every time the ball is not into the bucket
24ppg on 43%, LeBron shot 27ppg on 57% in the regular season.
See the difference?
Bulls should have 2 or possibly three-4 first and second team defensive with jimmy butler. joakim noah, luol deng, and maybe rose
i know he's young, but i seriously felt sorry for him..they were playing him way way way too much cuz of kirk, rose, & luol being injured.
Bulls were playing with their 3rd string point guard as a starter... obviously they couldn't win without Rose, Hinrich, or Deng. It's hard to beat a great team without key players. Bulls put up a fight :) it's why I love the bulls.. always putting up a fight no matter how many star players are missing. :D
If there is a guy in the NBA to contain Lebron James, it would be Jimmy Butler. Not only does he cause Lebron to miss shots, but he's one of the few people that are willing to body up Lebron and pressure him.
It's funny that you say no one can prove you wrong about both Captain Kirk and D-Rose being in the starting lineup, yet you can't prove it will happen. Nut up.
That's just good defense. Jimmy was exaggerating contact. If he hadn't, the foul wouldn't have been called. There was a foul, though. A flop is when you draw a foul for something that wasn't really a foul.
So just because he didn't score as much means he was no where to be found? I mean haters are so quick to say what he did bad but just ignore everything good he did.
The Bulls did a great job on Lebron as a team. But the only time he felt threatened by the Bulls was after losing game 1. Then he came out killing in game 2. He could have scored 50 if it wasn't for the blow out.
When it's winning time, Lebron plays his best. The evidence is clear after his back to back titles. So when you can check Lebron for an entire series and beat his team, then you can say you shut him down.
it's funny how if someone puts a compilation of missed shots they think they played bad
its not every day you see a late first round pick play up to this level and play great defense against the best player in the NBA especially when he is undersized against Bron.
If Jimmy Butler strapped Lebron just imagine what Michael Jordan in his prime would do to Lebron
If Thibodeau loves the way Hinrich runs the offense so much why isn't he starting? I think Thibodeau knows what he's doing more than you do. Yeah Kirk is a good defender but Rose has improved a lot defensively under the coaching of Thibodeau. And I doubt that Hinrich did that much effect on Rose like you are overstating. The only player I've seen Hinrich shut down is Deron Williams in this years playoffs. And I prefer having Butler defend SG like Kobe Bryant and D Wade and have Rose defend PG
continuing: lebron isn't a PG & look how many assist he gets...rose can play SG & still be the play maker...i just think there is so much talent at PG now that i think hinrich should guard them so rose can save his energy for offense...& hinrich can keep fast players like rose (when they weren't teammates),rondo, westbrook, parker in front of him.
yea it it is, no one else bodies him up when its not that hard if your 6'5 or up. (unless hes going coast to coast)
ok so maybe im wrong about rose playing SG, but since when do teams or players play their position? isn't it the pg that brings the ball up & sets up plays? then why would jordan or pippen bring it up & not paxson or armstrong...kobe, odom bring up the ball not fisher, lebron brings up the ball not chalmers..rose can play SG & still bring the ball up & set up plays while hinrich guards the SG or they can switch, kirk brings the ball up & call out plays (cuz thibs likes how he runs the offense)
That's a 12 year old kid's 2K14 rotation.
you actually saw a 12 yr old use that rotation?....people are complaining "why would I want rose @ SG when he's so good as a PG"...if he played SG his stats would be EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME!..he can start @ SG & still be a play maker like a PG. like I said i think there is a lot of talent @ PG now so I rather have kirk guard them than rose so rose doesn't get in foul trouble, plus kirk does a great job of keeping players in front of him.
Thumbs up if wade is always there for the put back on lebron miss.
he's in the same boat as shumpert!
I'm watching this and I only think is there any people who doubt that for example Pippen would shut down James?
the one thing that LeBron is missing in his game is that crossover pullup jumper. iv never actually seen him hit that shot consistently. he needs more handles, cant just expect to predetermine his drive and let his athleticsm beat everyone
well,he is a SF,sometimes plays as PF..hv good handle like normal PG/SG is not an easy job with his 6'8' height
of course. LeBron's the best player in the game right now but that great ball handling skills is the only considerable aspect that would really take his game to an even greater level. Durant is nearly 7 ft tall and look at his handles, but yeah I know that LeBron is human
well these guys already told me that thibs wants butler as his starting SG.
Nope. Help defense helped buter a lot. Deng is a much better defender on lebron as he doesn't force the help defense to bail him out as much or play more aggressive causing the bulls defense to rotate out of position.
This is the reason the BULLS will shock the world and beat the HEAT. Drose has never played with a athletic wing like BUTLER and the addition of rose alone will have the BULLS win there 7th title.
Lebron shot 12% less and 4 TO in that series than he did in the regular season???! If 12% less doesnt qaulify as "shut down", what does?
the heat rely on lebron shooting such a high %, 44% isnt terrible for other teams but it is for the heat.
top10 in the history? 'Greatest' players should not be eaily defensed by very young defenders like bulter and leonard. Mj, kobe, shaq, td never have troubles when they meet young defenders. And some guys tell us lbj can compare with those four 'greatest' players? Ridiculous!
butler did the same to kobe dummy.
Best way to guard Lebron is if you have quick feet play as close to him as possible without fouling as jimmy Butler was doing or play him like Rajon Rondo and backup anticipating the drive and make Lebron a jumpshooter .. (of course you dont back up as much farther Lebron as you do Rondo lol)
we love thibadou (not going to look up how to spell his name) as our coach.
The sad part about it is that some if these shots we're wide open. Lebron just sucks at jump shots so bad he just missed them.
how the fuck do you expect the Bulls to win that series with no Rose, Hinrich or Deng like really?
This is hardly any defense from Butler, LeBron just missed open jumpers, got bad passes from teammates, and the bulls interior defense deflected his passes. But of course lets hype this guys up.
but he forced a bad jump shooter to take bad shots, didn't he?
A good defender does not necessary need steals, blocks and rebound to defend. Sometimes wearing out a opponent's stamina and force tough shot are also part of defence. He could be the best right after Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen and Gary Payton. He could play 48min game, with such stamina, and defense skills, Jimmy Butler has huge potential. However I wish to see more on his offence skill.
How many shots were contested and how many times did he cut off lebron from going to the rim. Defense is about making the attacker take the toughest shots and almost 90% were off contested shots where lebron had to work for them yet still misses.
The title is so misleading. You can see the defense is all thibs. Look at the extra defensive help on lebron james. Quite sad that bulls fans don't even realize how great of a coach they have. The guy is revolutionizing basketball and they attribute it to butler. How sad.
Nate Robinson did his thing but lets be real if we had a healthy D.Rose you already know they would have lost.
jimmy is a great defender no doubt but look at the rest of the bulls and the attention given to lebron its team defense that is the strength of bulls you must be crazy if you think butler and guard lebron 1 on 1
Same thing with Lebron gaurding Rose in 2011 playoffs, since Korver was cold and the Bulls had no 3 point shooters to space the floor.
your so wrong every article and interview I've read has said that jimmy WILL be the starting SG, id delete that comment if i were you because everyone knows hinrich will be coming off the bench and we might have to laugh at you sir
#1 you must not watch the Bulls play, hinrich is an excellent defender ( was better than rose when he 1st started & probably still a better defender) coach thibodeau likes how kirk runs the offense.
#2 when do players play their position? rose can play SG but bring the ball up like a PG...lebron is a SF & he plays like a PG..rose & hinrich can take turns bringing the ball up.
well speaking of kobe & wade, kirk also does a great job on them so if Bulls play a team like miami kirk can defend wade & rose can take chalmers..did you see that play where wade stole the ball from kirk & kirk didn't let him score? wade tried to take kirk & kirk forced him into a tough shot..he's held kobe to 43% or less shooting several times.
I do agree that rose has improved as a defender, I remember i hated him as a rookie cuz he looked confused as to who he was guarding.
Locked his ass up
Well when you have subpar, inconsistent play makers point guards like a Kirk Hinrich or a Mario Chalmers then of course you have to give the ball to your best decision maker. But in the case you have a Derrick Rose running the show, you let him make whatever decision he wants. My point is I would rather have Rose running my team than Hinrich any day. Oh and the Jordan and Pippen thing, of course they had to handle the ball themselves. Or do you think John Paxson or Bj Armstrong were better?
He needs the ball in his hands to be effective, he is becoming a better decision maker, already is a good distributer and after 5 to 6 years of playing PG you think he can adapt to just shooting the ball at SG while having a subpar PG like Hinrich at starter? Go smoke a joint somewhere else bro.
we should have had drose we could have won the serious because all the games was close except game 2
every game that HEAT won was decided by double digits except game 5, and you already had DRose back 2011 still couldnt get the job done
MrKing8050 The bulls weren't nearly as good a team overall in 2011 as they're becoming now.
MrKing8050 And remember it wasn't just Rose; Deng was out that whole series. Chicago didn't have their two best players -- every game should have been a blowout
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the Bulls team were way better overall in 2011 than they have been the last 2 yrs...like taj gibson said recently this team now with pau is starting to look deep like the 2011 team was.
Wow and people compare him to jordan? Smh in jordans era he was being doubled, tripled and sometimes 4 defenders are stopping him because he is that great! And he still manages to finish at the rim! 90's are a much more physical era than today, if the present chicago bulls and jimmy buttler can lock down lebron, then the old bulls would shut him down completely! if lebron plays sg, he'll be guarded by the greatest ever mj who is a very defensive player, can steal the ball if lebrons slacking off, he could block his shots especially with that hangtime, and intercept the ball in the passing lane, if he plays sf he'll be guarded by pippen who is a star stopper he can steal, lock you down, block your shots, and intimidate you with his long arms, and can guard all 4 positions easily sometimes 5, if he tries to play pf, we all know rodman would shut him down completely, he'd be so physical lebron would cry, he would out rebound him in the post! the best position for james if he played in the 90's era would be point guard lol.
put jimmy butler on his ass too and the same result will happen. Note: Jordan wasn't matched up with people physically capable of guarding him jimmy butler, kwahi leonard, and LeBron are all physically capable of guarding Jordan.
Jjay i think you should watch who guards jordan, they are all formidable than the guys you've mentioned, and much more physical, its just that jordan was so good he made them look like a scrub.
my friend I watched the only people I've actually seen who kinda match with Jordan is joe dumars and he isn't that strong either
Jjay lol dude you make me laugh, joe dumars is not built that big but he is stronger and more physical than kawhi or jimmy butler.
thanks I know people tell me I'm funny, but jimmy butler is a very physical player and so is joe dumars but he is not stronger than jimmy butler you can even see in this video. Look at it again
Sorry but the title is miseading no one has ever been able to guard/shut down LeBron 1-1 this is called TEAM DEFENCE and chicago are the best at it because Tom Thibodeau is the best defensive coach in the NBA.