THE RETURN OF DINARS, AFFIX CHANGES, CLASS TUNING, NEW TIER + MORE! | Patch 11.1 Undermine(d) News

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @eaberrydc
    @eaberrydc 2 дня назад +5

    No key depletion is great if you are literally top 2%. The other 98% can pound sand

    • @michelmorin2894
      @michelmorin2894 12 часов назад

      Exactly... seriously 2850 is massive in PUG... where the Key depletion hit the most...

  • @Peacemoon-ToH
    @Peacemoon-ToH 2 дня назад +12

    Key depletion should be gradual with each Feat of Strength rather than just 2850 rating. So Conquerer it won't deplete bellow 4, Master it won't deplete below 7, Hero it won't deplete below 10. Etc.
    That would mean when you get a Feat you're now 'qualified' for that key level range and don't have to do it again. Would be quite fun as a ladder to build yourself up.

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +3

      I am 100% on board with this, great idea!

    • @bashiel
      @bashiel 2 дня назад

      This would be much much better yeah

  • @solemvow6281
    @solemvow6281 2 дня назад +8

    These tank changes really are underwhelming. Next season dungs have big pulls (minus ToP) and tanks still have white issues. However, prot pala as an outlier got hella buff while at the same time nerfing BDK and brew by lack of action and directly nerfing prot war due to spending rage also decreasing avatar's CD

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +1

      Yeah I'm hoping these are just the first round of changes and that we also see a rework to the tank 2p bonus, but we'll have to see how everything feels once the PTR is actually available.

    • @Katassu86
      @Katassu86 2 дня назад

      As a prot warrior main, the changes look they'll significantly reduce the fun of playing the spec

    • @Loki19810310
      @Loki19810310 2 дня назад

      The Guardian 4p looks fire..... like a dumpster fire..... i think someone at the office was late with his work, and just threw something in there when the boss screamed at him.

  • @banditkeith96
    @banditkeith96 2 дня назад +2

    Augmentation Evoker:
    (2) Set Bonus: Your damaging spells have a chance to hit a Jackpot!, causing an Upheaval at 100% effectiveness that does not knock enemies up. Casting Breath of Eons always hits a Jackpot!
    (4) Set Bonus: Your Upheavals have a 100% chance to grant Essence Burst. Eruptions cast with Essence Burst deal 25% increased damage.
    Elemental Shaman:
    (2) Set Bonus: Your spells and abilities have a chance to hit a Jackpot! that summons a Fire Elemental for 8.0 seconds. Casting Ascendance always hits a Jackpot!
    (4) Set Bonus: When you summon or extend your Fire Elemental, your Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, and Lava Burst deal 10% increased damage for 8 seconds.
    Augmentation Evoker:
    (2) Set Bonus: Your damaging spells have a chance to cause an Upheaval at 100% effectiveness that does not knock enemies up. Casting Breath of Eons always triggers this.
    (4) Set Bonus: Your Upheavals have a 100% chance to grant Essence Burst. Eruptions cast with Essence Burst deal 25% increased damage.
    Elemental Shaman:
    (2) Set Bonus: Your spells and abilities have a chance to summon a Fire Elemental for 8.0 seconds. Casting Ascendance always summons a Fire Elemental.
    (4) Set Bonus: When you summon or extend your Fire Elemental, your Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, and Lava Burst deal 10% increased damage for 8 seconds.
    Is this Jackpot! stuff really necessary? Seems like just some extra wording to do the same thing tier sets generally do.

  • @sknoppsi4413
    @sknoppsi4413 2 дня назад +3

    Ok if i remeber right, 2850 is the rating you have when you timed every dungeon on a +12. Now, when i push to 13 it still depleeds. Ok my key can't go below 12 but if I play another key from a team mate or pug then my +12 it will still depleed even if I am in that group right? For me this means this doesn't help anyone right?
    I mean if someone it progressing below +12 it still depleeds. If someone id progressing at +19 I don't think this people have the fear to ever depleed from 19 down to something lower then +12. So who does this change help? Even if I progress from 11 to 12 I don't have the rating and the key depleeds. When reaching the achievement you are progressing +13 and this key depleeds. To be honest when my key depleeds from 13 to 12 we progress the key of a team mate so no need to upgrade a +12 except for crests or vault runs.

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +3

      Currently this seems to mainly be targeted at helping alts since the bonus is account wide, but I do agree that I wouldn't be unhappy if this was just baseline how keys worked, just to make pugging in the 2-12 bracket (which is the vast majority of M+ keys) a bit less toxic and intimidating.

  • @Lehmkuhl.
    @Lehmkuhl. 2 дня назад +6

    I don't mind when sets don't change my play style. However, random chance for DR is always lame.

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +2

      Yeah I feel like my reaction would be a bit different if it wasn't exactly an effect that tanks notoriously don't value much hahaha

  • @martinkf
    @martinkf 2 дня назад +2

    Lately, I’ve been feeling pretty uninterested in WoW for the past couple of weeks, so it’s great to have updates broken down like this. Even though I play Brewmaster, so I guess “news” isn’t exactly the right term, lol. Thanks, Tank Guy!

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +1

      No problem at all! Surely they just forgot the brewmaster notes and they'll be included in the next PTR update :P

  • @afox6088
    @afox6088 2 дня назад

    pretty worried about the prot warrior changes. I understand and agree with their intentions regarding dumping rage for more effective avatar use, but the problem with how they've addressed it is that we're likely going to see a big reduction in avatar uptime which is horrible for our damage. also way harder to generate on demand rage at the start of a pull. speaking as an exclusively M+ tank this whole set of changes seems like has been done exclusively with raid in mind.

  • @serryx1944
    @serryx1944 День назад +1

    For Raze replacing Maul. The talent tree on the 11.1 ptr calculator states that Raze does 59.63% ( of Attack Power ) dmg to all enemies in front of you, is increased by 100% when striking a single target and is reduced beyond 5 targets. I'd still rather have the option of pressing one or the other but can't say I'm completely against it either.

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  День назад

      Yeah this is fine imo, but it does have the funny side effect of making Raze better than Maul in ST (at least with current tuning) so you'd actually want to take it in pure ST situations.

  • @Infernius
    @Infernius 2 дня назад

    Keys not depleting is massive. It will promote an entirely new mentality towards doing M+, a wipe that would usually end a whole run should just be a "okay guys what have we learned, let's go again" mentality because you get to face the same challenge and learn from it.

  • @SammyBammy813
    @SammyBammy813 2 дня назад +1

    the 11.1 PTR datamine class change for Blood DK I read on WoWHead also stated bDK aura value is buffing 165 - do you see that being significant benefit for bDK? Unfortunately does not look like any physical DR benefit but damage/healing & DS buff could help, if value buff is significant

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +1

      Will have to wait and see until PTR servers are actually up and I get to play all the specs with the changes. Definitely gonna make a video reviewing the 6 tank specs in January and discuss things more indepth there!

    • @SammyBammy813
      @SammyBammy813 2 дня назад +1

      @@Tactyks I will (more than normal) be obsessivley and compulsively refreshing your page after the PTR is live...

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад

      @@SammyBammy813 Hahaha will try not to keep you waiting too long!

  • @JBX5677JB
    @JBX5677JB 2 дня назад +2

    Love your content, but I am kind of surprised the analysis was so light on the Prot Warrior nerfs. I understand it was a long video and maybe this will be addressed in a separate video later, or you are waiting to get a feel after testing it, but there is going to be many unintended consequences that aren't aligning with the stated goal of reducing rage overflow and spam that we don't need to test to understand. Like less damage from many different sources (shield slam procs/less Avatar uptime/less rage for executes, etc) and harder to start packs with shield block uptime with removing rage from shield charge/demo shout not being enough rage on it's own to cast shield block. I know you have a very in-depth understanding of the class, which is why I was expecting a little more.

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +4

      As you guessed I plan to do a full video on tanks once I actually test things out on the PTR itself in the new year, just because I don't want to jump to any conclusions on how something may affect a playstyle when I haven't actually played it myself. Will definitely have something more indepth for you at some point in January hopefully!

    • @JBX5677JB
      @JBX5677JB 2 дня назад +1

      @@Tactyks Makes sense. Cheers!

    • @Katassu86
      @Katassu86 2 дня назад

      Overcapping rage is more prominent for Mountain Thane than it is for Colossus. But these changes impact both. I'm interested in seeing how these feel on the PTR but my first read is Colossus will remain unviable in m+ and may become difficult to manage in Raid.

  • @Peacemoon-ToH
    @Peacemoon-ToH 2 дня назад +1

    My guild has a Keystone Legend 'guild achievement' for reaching 3K rating. I've posted about it elsewhere and said repeatedly its a shame there are no achievements between 2.5K and the top 0.1%. Seems like they have listened! I should get comission :D

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад

      Blizzard's cheque is in the mail surely!

  • @samsorge27
    @samsorge27 День назад

    Since my mates have stopped playing relatively early this season I find it pretty hard to pug my way up to getting +10 done in all dingeons. 4/8 so far.
    Last week I didnt time a 10 so I got a 9 key. Noone plays +9 because there is no incentive, so I lowered tit to 8. Then my internet went out for a couple of minutes (thanks telecom) early into that key and when I got back my group was disbanding. Now I have a +7, which I don't need or want to play.
    Key depletion is not a fun mechanic for me at all. Just let me lower it if I want to or at least stop it from going lower at specific levels 7 down to 4, 10 down to 8 and so on, in conjunction with the level of crests that drop there.

  • @fury104
    @fury104 День назад

    People have requested the elimination of key depletion and they do it if you get a. 2850 rating. I’m a casual and likely will never see that rating. I likely won’t see a 12 key. This is another slap in the face for the casual Paying player cause the same toxic bs will continue if I’m running a 8 or 5 and the narrator is off base making it seem like it’s massive!! It’s not unless you’re an elite!!

  • @adamtatusko
    @adamtatusko 2 дня назад +1

    Any changes to DH?

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад

      Havoc is seeing some talent changes, Vengeance is getting some nice buffs to Demon Spikes and Sigil of Flame uptime

    • @adamtatusko
      @adamtatusko 2 дня назад +1

      @@Tactyks Thanks!

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад

      @@adamtatusko No problem!

    • @cindywagner49
      @cindywagner49 2 дня назад

      Havoc dh aoe nerfed to the fukin ground

  • @ic3t3ap3ach
    @ic3t3ap3ach 2 дня назад +1

    i with they would add similar achievments for +4 +8 and this +12. i read this achievment differently. for me below 12 means from 12 to 11. otherwise that would make no sense for "key pushers" which is this achievment for. adn the druid class tree changes are SICK!. they could have added convoke to the class tree because resto ist the only one considering this talent in spec tree atm.
    we still have usless talents but its much much better now. Next remove those 3 beserk talents an put it into incarn. no one plays only beserk :D.

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад

      Yeah pretty happy with the druid rework overall, definitely wish they moved convoke to where soothe is but I'll take it hahaha. Surely Guardian gets a spec tree rework soon....

  • @Loki19810310
    @Loki19810310 2 дня назад

    as a tank, i dont really feel any hype about 11.1. The tier bonuses look lazy and no excitement about them at all (Guardian). Its like they dont want us to tank at all.

  • @thundercracker3547
    @thundercracker3547 2 дня назад +1

    Thanks for the rundown brother 👍🏻🇺🇸🇮🇱

  • @mcova14
    @mcova14 День назад

    I think this new tier set bonus is great BECAUSE they simply cannot keep inventing a new amazing way to play every spec for every class every season on top of the massive spec trees AND hero talents its just not realistic.
    This seasons tier bonus for every class was the most underwhelming the game has ever seen. Which at this point i think it would be much more interesting if they focus more on unique pieces of gear or like have items with tertiary stats on them. The randomness of tertiary stats is really annoying too. But they really bit off more than they can chew with hero talents why would they add 11 more talents when they are always struggling to balance the existing 100 talents

  • @MasonC2K
    @MasonC2K 2 дня назад +6

    The key depleting shouldn't have the high of a gate. Should be a 2500 reward.

    • @misaelvergara
      @misaelvergara 2 дня назад

      I agree lol major disappointment
      I never reached anything beyond 2400

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +2

      Yeah it definitely feels a bit high initially, almost seems like they're making it a reward once you "graduate" out of needing those key levels for score, though at least its account wide so the current iteration helps alts.

    • @bearhorn1755
      @bearhorn1755 2 дня назад +4

      Hot take: I think keys shouldn’t deplete at all. Not timing a key should result in less loot and no key upgrade. As of right now it’s a double-whammy with key depletion as well. I think making it not deplete at all would help “smooth” out the toxic ass parts of the M+ community

    • @PoliticalyOK
      @PoliticalyOK 2 дня назад

      @@bearhorn1755less loot? How do you get less than zero loot from m+?

    • @MasonC2K
      @MasonC2K 2 дня назад

      @bearhorn1755 honestly I feel the same. But at least this is a start.

  • @snakebyteOne
    @snakebyteOne 2 дня назад

    Blizz's obsession with class balancing just leads to meh tier set bonuses like this. Unless they're saving fun bonuses for future patches that don't have much content

  • @Thorkou
    @Thorkou 2 дня назад

    dinars at 17-19 is to late to matter also it only being for the raid and raid loot >_>. nothing for M+ in terms of targeting gear with dinars missed again blizzard. the depletion being only for 12 and below is pointless if you need to basically hit 3000 most 1%er players wont care about this and the average player base wont even get to 2850 for it to matter plus if there already doing the 14's and 15 why go bother going lower? also next seasons tiers are just poorly designed. another massive miss by blizzard. 2/10 patch notes.

  • @MasonC2K
    @MasonC2K 2 дня назад

    Only the neckbeards are getting AOTC or KSM before their 4 set. So a catalyst charge is more usable for most people.

    • @RegiDD
      @RegiDD 2 дня назад

      or unlucky fuckers like me

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад

      Yeah especially if it does actually let you get a catalyst charge for EACH achievement, would be a very nice improvement.

  • @murrloc1859
    @murrloc1859 2 дня назад

    Tanks seem very disappointing, I skipped S1 , I was looking forward for this season but I guess maybe s3

  • @deseanroot75
    @deseanroot75 2 дня назад +1

    Imagine still playing Brewmaster. Couldnt be me (its me)

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад +1

      Praying for you in these trying times

  • @Pawheal
    @Pawheal 2 дня назад

    Your wrong and putting out bad information. Once 2850 your key cannot deplete lower than a 12, read it again and think about it. Your thumbnail is wrong, you are mostly a good creator but this is everything that is wrong with this community.

    • @corbynaltman1020
      @corbynaltman1020 2 дня назад

      98% of thumbnails on RUclips are technically wrong. Just read the wowhead article if you think his info is wrong

    • @Tactyks
      @Tactyks  2 дня назад

      Wouldn't not depleting lower than a 12 also mean that keys below 12 don't deplete since they're already lower than a 12? I could definitely be misunderstanding here since the text isn't exactly clear, but I'm seeing a lot of people interpret it in the same way I am.

    • @Tr0ng0089
      @Tr0ng0089 2 дня назад

      Lol you feeling OK buddy?
      Putting out passive aggressive comments like this without actually explaining your point of view like an adult is what's wrong with this community.
      Check yourself bud.