The Peugeot 405, even the basic 70bhp 1.9D 405 GLD versions, had a ride/handling balance that was pretty much optimal. Very few cars before or since it have been able to strike that compromise. It rode really well and had the sort of wheel-travel that made mid-corner bumps not an issue, but still turned in keenly and cornered well. Pity so many Mi16s and Citroen BX GTI 16Vs got butchered to put their engines in 205 GTis...
Love these cars, and I'm American! Too bad this model couldn't save Peugeot in the United States. I really liked the styling of the 505 and 405, and they had a geat ride/handling balance and excellent brakes. If only more Americans took notice, Peugeot's fate in this country could have been different. These days, most Americans wouldn't have a clue about these cars, no memory of their existence, and that is sad.
Always thought this was Peugeot's best, though the 406 after it came close, when they really had their stuff together, to a certain extent they still do in certain models, moreso than any other make. Very Handsome Pinninfarina style with it's Alfa 164 inspired style. one of the tidiest 4 door saloon shapes then, and now, even the estate version was trim lookin.
If you want an even more Alfa 164 inspired Peugeot that'd be the Peugeot 605 (near identical side profile), which is essentially the replacement for the 604 and the 505, sadly they never sold it in the States even though production started in 1989 and Peugeot stayed in the US till 1991... Then again might have been better since the 605 suffered from poor electrics until 1992-93, i own a 1997 Model which has not had the best of lives and has started to decompose. And oh yeah the Peugeot 406 is to me the most beautiful affordable sedan out there, here in Finland you can get one that is still serviceable between the 1000€ and 5000€ mark for the more powerful V6 models.
I saw one of these late last month. I was walking through the visitors parking lot at the hospital that I work at . It looked like it had lead a rough life but had current Maryland tags and I work in Madison WI. Apparently someone had enough faith it it's reliability to drive it halfway cross country.
What ... you`re surprised that Peugeot can be reliable? (I know because my cousin has the 407 and previousla he had the 406 etc.). Although I do realise that Peugeot regretably isn`t available on US & Canada markets since 1991 so finding spare parts and proper maintenance is tricky. I`m so happy that I live in Europe where Peugeot never left. The new one in this class in case you`re wondering: ruclips.net/video/BgBxDNDgiy4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/f0bDf7E8TBg/видео.html And ofcourse the SW version: ruclips.net/video/lF-c9sDPbno/видео.html The concept car the 508 is based on: ruclips.net/video/X1lqWsEScF8/видео.html
@@tyraela115 saw peugeot in Washington DC with European plate on it. It was a newer one and tried to follow but lost it when it took a right turn. If I lived in Europe I would love to own a 2001 Peugeot 406 coupe. That is a gorgeous looking car. Do you own one and what model?
@@ubiased23 Sorry but I don`t own one. My cousin did but a normal one - 4-door saloon 2.0 Hdi (110 BHP). But yeah a 406 Coupé would be nice to own so would be the 407 Coupé. Both 3.0 V6 ofcourse... Anyway I think you`ll be interested in these: ruclips.net/video/T9gzX6lSFao/видео.html ruclips.net/video/GSDtF3UEkVg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/IJ3Y7dn8J4g/видео.html ruclips.net/video/pgUlX23gObM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Sckg4nCBEmE/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Y5K3e4IGQOQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/k_TFzeQDaks/видео.html ruclips.net/video/eSMidqe2HXo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/9zQtM4nTLmM/видео.html
@@ubiased23 Pretty reliable. Once on the 406 they had to change the clutch because my uncle who had previously owned the 406 repeatedly towed too heavy (beyond factory prescribed limits) burden on a triler. I think he was towing rocks for making a small wall on a backyard or something like that. And a sensor (parking sensor I think) was acting up if I recall and had to be replaced. Otherwise pretty standard maintenance. They sold the 406 back in 2016 which had about 200 000 km on the clock. It wasn`t necessary to sell it`s just that they`ve replaced it with the 407 (made in 2009) in very good condition and few kilometers (don`t remember how many). Today it has around 189 000 km on the clock and unlike many many Passats for example is rust free. I`ve seen the Citroen Xantia (406 cousin) 1.9 Td (turbodiesel) with 750 000 kilometers and still going strong. My uncle told me of Xm with 3.0 V6 (not the 24 valve with 170 BHP) with 700 000km etc. It`s like Jay said here: ruclips.net/video/CuZCmQtZE60/видео.html www.carscoops.com/2019/05/peugeot-tops-uk-dependability-study-bmw-finishes-dead-last/
It is funny you said its look like a 1996 car, because in France the 405 was discontinued... in 1996. This car was cutting edge when he came in 1987, and nowdays still have some fans in France !
So for America, they have to homologate bumpers. The slick mi16 body kit wasn’t homologated. If you look closely, you’ll see that these bumpers, which are supposedly S bumpers are different than the non mi 16 European bumpers as well. They stick out much further, not to mention the lights.
I saw a Peugeot 405 in my neighborhood as I grew up. I always thought it was driven by a Moroccan ambassador because I didn't know these were also sold in the US.
Funny I never saw this model on the road. I do remember 403, 404, 504 and 505. A dealer had some 304 on the display floor; again, never actually saw this model on the road. I sometimes wonder if the Columbo 403 is preserved somewhere..
@@peugeot505man it was a smaller one. I think 404? It was a diesel. That car gave me the introduction to the glow plug. It really was a fun and peppy car. I chose that over the company Mercedes SEL550.
Heck, even my old 98' Honda accord 4 cylinder only maybe made 150HP on a 2.3L engine. This was a 1.9L making 158HP. Most of the other cars of this era you would see on Motor Week would be happy to see 120HP.. Exampling being a Cadillac Brougham 5.0L V8 making a paltry 140HP in 88'..
This car was rather expensive in Europe. I owned its "nephew" the Citroën Xantia, underneath the same platform/engines. Japanese reliability from France, with hydropneumatic suspension. I loved it! And it came with an "intelligent" automatic gearbox (that was the only part I did not really like).
Rather 405 and BX share platform (the four-wheel-drive 405T16 even has rear hydropneumatic BX suspension assembly). Thereafter 406 and Xantia share platform.
That is really sad. My family had one until 2012, when finally the timing belt broke and it wasn't worth saving. I still regret the day I had to say goodbye. The 405 lives on in the form of Iran Khodro's 'Samand' model, but for obvious reasons, neither you nor I will see one in the foreseeable future.
Love these and they're known as excellent cars here in France. Too bad americans didnt get the diesel and turbo diesel versions, those had incredible economy and the usual pug reliability. The 106 is also a car I think would have had a good deal of success overseas...
106 ? i don't think so. american love big car. the 405 was medium size but the 106 is too small for us market. Also the 106 does not have the premium feeling of the 405
Yeah too advanced for them. I don`t know if you`ve seen this: ruclips.net/video/__iAG4CJ0Hc/видео.html Just pay attention to the guy from 7:30 to 7:40 for example. Let alone for him to grasp the high tech of the car as nice shown here for example: ruclips.net/video/LMh1AlIbbs4/видео.html
■■■ MEJOR VIVO EN BUENOS AIRES A SI NO ME GRITAN Y NO ME TIENEN DE PERKIN 150MIL EN CHICLES MAS 150 MIL EN OTRAS COSAS ME PASAN 400 DOLARES AL MES TENGO TECHO
VENDER TODO EL SABADO Y DOMINGO TU NO ME QUIERES SE QUEDO CALLADA LA QUE CALLA OTORGA ■■VIL ENEMIGA ■ Y VIL ENEMIGO CRITICON■■■ JUSTIN BIEBER■ INCENDIOS DPTO■ TE HACES FAMOSO■■ ME GRITAN CON FUERZA COCHO CALLATE ■ YO ME RESPETO ■
The Peugeot 405, even the basic 70bhp 1.9D 405 GLD versions, had a ride/handling balance that was pretty much optimal. Very few cars before or since it have been able to strike that compromise. It rode really well and had the sort of wheel-travel that made mid-corner bumps not an issue, but still turned in keenly and cornered well.
Pity so many Mi16s and Citroen BX GTI 16Vs got butchered to put their engines in 205 GTis...
Love these cars, and I'm American! Too bad this model couldn't save Peugeot in the United States. I really liked the styling of the 505 and 405, and they had a geat ride/handling balance and excellent brakes. If only more Americans took notice, Peugeot's fate in this country could have been different. These days, most Americans wouldn't have a clue about these cars, no memory of their existence, and that is sad.
I’m American as well I completely agree with you. I think they could’ve succeeded if they had better marketing and more dealers.
Yes I had a gr and a Sri great cars big trunk ie 4 sets of golf clubs
Always thought this was Peugeot's best, though the 406 after it came close, when they really had their stuff together, to a certain extent they still do in certain models, moreso than any other make.
Very Handsome Pinninfarina style with it's Alfa 164 inspired style. one of the tidiest 4 door saloon shapes then, and now, even the estate version was trim lookin.
If you want an even more Alfa 164 inspired Peugeot that'd be the Peugeot 605 (near identical side profile), which is essentially the replacement for the 604 and the 505, sadly they never sold it in the States even though production started in 1989 and Peugeot stayed in the US till 1991... Then again might have been better since the 605 suffered from poor electrics until 1992-93, i own a 1997 Model which has not had the best of lives and has started to decompose. And oh yeah the Peugeot 406 is to me the most beautiful affordable sedan out there, here in Finland you can get one that is still serviceable between the 1000€ and 5000€ mark for the more powerful V6 models.
I saw one of these late last month.
I was walking through the visitors parking lot at the hospital that I work at .
It looked like it had lead a rough life but had current Maryland tags and I work in Madison WI.
Apparently someone had enough faith it it's reliability to drive it halfway cross country.
What ... you`re surprised that Peugeot can be reliable? (I know because my cousin has the 407 and previousla he had the 406 etc.).
Although I do realise that Peugeot regretably isn`t available on US & Canada markets since 1991 so finding spare parts and proper maintenance is tricky.
I`m so happy that I live in Europe where Peugeot never left.
The new one in this class in case you`re wondering:
ruclips.net/video/BgBxDNDgiy4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/f0bDf7E8TBg/видео.html
And ofcourse the SW version:
ruclips.net/video/lF-c9sDPbno/видео.html
The concept car the 508 is based on:
ruclips.net/video/X1lqWsEScF8/видео.html
@@tyraela115 saw peugeot in Washington DC with European plate on it. It was a newer one and tried to follow but lost it when it took a right turn.
If I lived in Europe I would love to own a 2001 Peugeot 406 coupe. That is a gorgeous looking car.
Do you own one and what model?
@@ubiased23 Sorry but I don`t own one. My cousin did but a normal one - 4-door saloon 2.0 Hdi (110 BHP). But yeah a 406 Coupé would be nice to own so would be the 407 Coupé. Both 3.0 V6 ofcourse...
Anyway I think you`ll be interested in these:
ruclips.net/video/T9gzX6lSFao/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/GSDtF3UEkVg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/IJ3Y7dn8J4g/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/pgUlX23gObM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Sckg4nCBEmE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Y5K3e4IGQOQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/k_TFzeQDaks/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/eSMidqe2HXo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/9zQtM4nTLmM/видео.html
@@tyraela115 thanks for the links my friend. So how reliable were they since your cousin owned one?
@@ubiased23 Pretty reliable. Once on the 406 they had to change the clutch because my uncle who had previously owned the 406 repeatedly towed too heavy (beyond factory prescribed limits) burden on a triler. I think he was towing rocks for making a small wall on a backyard or something like that.
And a sensor (parking sensor I think) was acting up if I recall and had to be replaced.
Otherwise pretty standard maintenance. They sold the 406 back in 2016 which had about 200 000 km on the clock. It wasn`t necessary to sell it`s just that they`ve replaced it with the 407 (made in 2009) in very good condition and few kilometers (don`t remember how many). Today it has around 189 000 km on the clock and unlike many many Passats for example is rust free. I`ve seen the Citroen Xantia (406 cousin) 1.9 Td (turbodiesel) with 750 000 kilometers and still going strong. My uncle told me of Xm with 3.0 V6 (not the 24 valve with 170 BHP) with 700 000km etc.
It`s like Jay said here:
ruclips.net/video/CuZCmQtZE60/видео.html
www.carscoops.com/2019/05/peugeot-tops-uk-dependability-study-bmw-finishes-dead-last/
I always loved this car since I saw it in 1990
owned and Mi16 was a great car. The interior had a wonderful leather scent and the engine loved to rev. Got a lot of thumbs up from Europeans
Damn shame we never got the 205, particularly the GTi, the Rallye...maybe even the t16 in limited numbers.
Yous didn't miss much really, the 405 was a far superior car. A 205 gti 1.9 would struggle to keep with a turbo diesel 405
@@lostwill86 Seriously?
@@htimsid yup, 405 is a far better chassis and not actually much heavier
I miss my 405 so much. One day I will
Import a eurospec mi16
Had a 405S, and it never failed to leave me stranded.
Same with the one my dad had.
Mine was excellent.
Never broke
I wish we still got Peugeot here in the US
This was an 80s car that looks like a 1996 lol. I hope I run across one for sale one day
No you don't. My dad had one & it was the worst car he ever had. Junk.
It is funny you said its look like a 1996 car, because in France the 405 was discontinued... in 1996. This car was cutting edge when he came in 1987, and nowdays still have some fans in France !
Porque desaparecido Peugeot Citroen y Renault de los USA ?
Here in the UK the Mi16 came with bigger side mouldings ,side skirts and different bumpers than the normal versions.
So for America, they have to homologate bumpers. The slick mi16 body kit wasn’t homologated.
If you look closely, you’ll see that these bumpers, which are supposedly S bumpers are different than the non mi 16 European bumpers as well. They stick out much further, not to mention the lights.
Those intros go on forever.
Owned this car great memories
I saw a Peugeot 405 in my neighborhood as I grew up. I always thought it was driven by a Moroccan ambassador because I didn't know these were also sold in the US.
Funny I never saw this model on the road. I do remember 403, 404, 504 and 505. A dealer had some 304 on the display floor; again, never actually saw this model on the road. I sometimes wonder if the Columbo 403 is preserved somewhere..
Everytime he pronounces the "Peu" like "Poo", a part of me dies.
I drove for a company that had expensive cars back then but the best car i enjoyed was a Puegeot diesel.
What model Peugeot?
@@peugeot505man it was a smaller one. I think 404? It was a diesel. That car gave me the introduction to the glow plug. It really was a fun and peppy car. I chose that over the company Mercedes SEL550.
No, these were rich men. They had businesses in New York, New Jersey, California and in the middle east.
Most of the mi16's in the UK got thier engine ripped out and stuck in 205 gti's. Now thats a weapon.
150 hp in 1988 was almost Camaro Z28 territory back then - out of a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder!!
Heck, even my old 98' Honda accord 4 cylinder only maybe made 150HP on a 2.3L engine. This was a 1.9L making 158HP. Most of the other cars of this era you would see on Motor Week would be happy to see 120HP.. Exampling being a Cadillac Brougham 5.0L V8 making a paltry 140HP in 88'..
This car was rather expensive in Europe. I owned its "nephew" the Citroën Xantia, underneath the same platform/engines. Japanese reliability from France, with hydropneumatic suspension. I loved it! And it came with an "intelligent" automatic gearbox (that was the only part I did not really like).
Rather 405 and BX share platform (the four-wheel-drive 405T16 even has rear hydropneumatic BX suspension assembly). Thereafter 406 and Xantia share platform.
Sadly, the 405 wasn’t the car to turn around Peugeot’s fortunes in the US. They’d be gone from our shores by 1992.
That is really sad.
My family had one until 2012, when finally the timing belt broke and it wasn't worth saving.
I still regret the day I had to say goodbye.
The 405 lives on in the form of Iran Khodro's 'Samand' model, but for obvious reasons, neither you nor I will see one in the foreseeable future.
Love these and they're known as excellent cars here in France. Too bad americans didnt get the diesel and turbo diesel versions, those had incredible economy and the usual pug reliability. The 106 is also a car I think would have had a good deal of success overseas...
106 ? i don't think so. american love big car. the 405 was medium size but the 106 is too small for us market. Also the 106 does not have the premium feeling of the 405
The 505 diesel had a cult following in the US
Cool car, very sought after today 👍
I had Peugeot 405 1.6GR 93K & 405 1.9TD GLX 95N. 406 2.1TD x2 406 2.0HDI I Loved my 405s&406s. Best Ride&handling.
My dad had a 1990 1.6 GR. Rear electric windows/head restraints/courtesy light. First car we had with such luxuries.
Omg i have no idea motorweek reviewed my ex car (Peugeot 405)
My dad owns that car.
Thank you so much for your love.
Increible que ese auto fuese de cuando yo nacia
They still make those in Iran
Came here to watch this video because I just saw one for sale for 7k with additional parts car
A LA GENTE ODIA HABLAR Y ODIA EL AMOR Y ODIA LA AMISTAD QUE EMPIECE LA DESTRUCCION
Amazing car😍😍😍
It's a shame the states got the neutured version of the mi16. And didn't get the diesel
Poojoe... :D
160 HP from 1.9 liters pushed the mi16 to over 140mph this was a serious car but the US never warmed up to French cars.
Yeah too advanced for them.
I don`t know if you`ve seen this:
ruclips.net/video/__iAG4CJ0Hc/видео.html
Just pay attention to the guy from 7:30 to 7:40 for example. Let alone for him to grasp the high tech of the car as nice shown here for example:
ruclips.net/video/LMh1AlIbbs4/видео.html
DPTO EN VUENOS AIRES
MINIMO 100 UNIDADES VENTA A ALNACEN EFECTIVO 50%DE GANANCIA
MERCADO DE CHILLAN IR A COMPRAR AJO Y CEBOLLA Y OTROS
I owned a 405 mi16
COMERCIANTE SER NO EMPRESARIO
COMERCIANTE NO ES EMPRESARIO
AJO MERCADO DE CHILLAN■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■♤
Poo zho
■■■ MEJOR VIVO EN BUENOS AIRES A SI NO ME GRITAN Y NO ME TIENEN DE PERKIN 150MIL EN CHICLES MAS 150 MIL EN OTRAS COSAS ME PASAN 400 DOLARES AL MES TENGO TECHO
VENDER TODO EL SABADO Y DOMINGO TU NO ME QUIERES SE QUEDO CALLADA LA QUE CALLA OTORGA ■■VIL ENEMIGA ■ Y VIL ENEMIGO CRITICON■■■ JUSTIN BIEBER■ INCENDIOS DPTO■ TE HACES FAMOSO■■ ME GRITAN CON FUERZA COCHO CALLATE ■ YO ME RESPETO ■
$20k in 1988. That’s why it failed.
Nothing says "luxury" like all that hideous plastic.
The first dashboard was awful
@@julienbee3467 They all are.