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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Town Hall: A Black Queer Podcast is back from hiatus, diving into the complexities of colorism. Join Peppermint and Bob the Drag Queen as they explore this crucial topic. This episode features interviews with Lashawn (@love.lashaaawn), a drag queen, comedian, epic fantasy writer, and community builder proudly belonging to the Afro-Caribbean, queer, and gaming communities; Amryn (@peppermintpattytypegalpal), a visual artist, creative, and musician from New Mexico, who shares their journey of overcoming harmful colorist beliefs and embracing blackness in all shades; and Alexia (@alexia.is.that.gurl), an Afro-Latina singer, actor, dancer, and director from Jersey City, who discusses her unique experiences as a light-skinned, mixed-race person of Latin descent. Tune in for an insightful discussion on colorism's impact and the journey to self-acceptance.
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    Special thanks to our Production Team: Executive Producer, Tracy Marquez. Senior Producer, Charlene Westbrook. Producer, Cory Nixon, and Post Producer, Amelia Ritthaler. Music by Lafemmebear.

Комментарии • 115

  • @JataviousX
    @JataviousX 3 месяца назад +184

    I'm telling my kids this is Obama and Kamala Harris.

  • @jmouay
    @jmouay 3 месяца назад +35

    it’s 6am, i’ve never been so early to an episode.

  • @ChristianStran
    @ChristianStran 3 месяца назад +10

    Peppermint gets more and more beautiful. Aging SO gracefully ❤

  • @nikki80368
    @nikki80368 3 месяца назад +6

    First off, thank you so much to Bob, Peppermint, all the speakers, and the production team for bringing this wonderful discussion to your platform!! I dont think I'm exaggerating when I say listening to this helped me out of a mid-afternoon spiral. Theres just something so calming about hearing the thoughts you've had haunting your mind for yearssssss, just be spoken and discussed out loud, with no judgement attached. I love the variety of experiences yall share. Even if there are points I dont personally relate to, hearing another perspective really helps put some of my personal worries at ease. Where I live, having these kinds of talks is difficult, even with the best of intentions. Listening to yall speak help me feel not so crazy in my corner of the world. Love and light ❤

  • @Jacob42086
    @Jacob42086 3 месяца назад +52

    Peppermint voice: rAcE?!😂❤ But in all seriousness Happy pride y'all!! I also fucked with Mavis beacon Bob!!! She was the first black lady as a little Black kid to teach me how to type and do groceries ❤😂😂😂

  • @migmikko
    @migmikko 3 месяца назад +8

    How does BOB have time for all these gigs? He was with Madonna, now hes on the Traitors, hes going on a solo comedy tour and lets not forget that he is in mourning ! Kuddos to a hardworking individual !

  • @bunnylaroux
    @bunnylaroux 3 месяца назад +12

    Thank you for shouting out C Maddox! Biiiiiittttccchhh! RIP to a queen. Great conversation, signed a black girl with kinky hair owning her beautiful

  • @Jacob42086
    @Jacob42086 3 месяца назад +22

    A gay 80s gay corn star had to lie and say he was white even though he was Hispanic so it's wild what you have to do to TRY and even AVOID colorism

    • @ericdwhitmorec
      @ericdwhitmorec 3 месяца назад

      Was he a white Hispanic?

    • @QuadElementals
      @QuadElementals 3 месяца назад

      I've never heard of that, what's his name? Was he fair skinned? How did he hide that for so long?

  • @Jacob42086
    @Jacob42086 3 месяца назад +42

    🎉This is from Wikipedia bob on Mavis beacon: ""The model chosen to be the face of Mavis was Haitian-born Renée L'Espérance, who was discovered working behind the perfume counter at Saks Fifth Avenue Beverly Hills by former talk-show host and partner at The Software Toolworks Les Crane in 1985,"

  • @h3zANDRU
    @h3zANDRU 3 месяца назад +3

    The model chosen to be the face of Mavis was Haitian-born Renée L'Espérance, who was discovered working behind the perfume counter at Saks Fifth Avenue Beverly Hills by former talk-show host and partner at The Software Toolworks Les Crane in 1985. Mavis's name comes from a combination of Mavis Staples (one of the software developer's favorite singers) and the word beacon (an allusion to her role as a guide to typing)

  • @jamiesssssssss
    @jamiesssssssss 3 месяца назад +2

    Grateful to hear light shined on Sinterklaus, a terrible racist holiday tradition. In Rhinebeck & Kingston in NY's Hudson Valley region, there are still yearly Sinterklaus parades despite public outcry which is really tragic.

  • @jmouay
    @jmouay 3 месяца назад +17

    ms peppermint is beyond gorgeous ♡

  • @thedivinebrycelamore
    @thedivinebrycelamore 3 месяца назад +4

    Bishhh . The way I just screamed learning that Bob will be on Traitors 3 . He is literally my favorite drag queen personality . So clever so witty . It’ll be worth watching just cuz Bob is there ( I am praying he is a traitor )

  • @ChristianStran
    @ChristianStran 3 месяца назад +5

    I thought Peppermint was light-skinned, but it’s interesting to learn that she is not actually. Speaking of, they both have very youthful skin, black really don’t crack!

  • @bobtdqvideos
    @bobtdqvideos 3 месяца назад +3

    missing bob over at sibling rivalry ❤

  • @tyannokay
    @tyannokay 3 месяца назад +6

    Yes, Morris Day!!! Bob, you gotta see Purple Rain.

  • @ErinandtheCity
    @ErinandtheCity 2 месяца назад

    First saw Peppermint on Traitors and they did not do her justice - love the brilliance!

  • @torihuerta7039
    @torihuerta7039 3 месяца назад +9

    when are we getting peppermint back in playing video games !!! pleaseeee

  • @AlexKimTO
    @AlexKimTO 3 месяца назад +3

    I havn't seen Peppermint in a while. She looks so different.

  • @vitov3914
    @vitov3914 3 месяца назад +1

    Aww CMaddox! I miss CMaddox so much! That was amazing surprise to hear on here.

  • @glooperscooper
    @glooperscooper 3 месяца назад +5

    We gotta work on the lag. The talking over one another is too overstimulating for me lmao

  • @myfriendisaac
    @myfriendisaac 3 месяца назад +2

    4:35 Love the Madonna praise 💐💯🎉

  • @Diseiye
    @Diseiye 3 месяца назад +3

    Peppermint looks so good!!! ❤

  • @nandikmusic
    @nandikmusic 3 месяца назад +3

    Mavis Beacon was that gworl. Typing classes were that!

  • @ChristianStran
    @ChristianStran 3 месяца назад +3

    I FORGOT ABOUT MAVIS BEACON 😅

  • @jrome9825
    @jrome9825 3 месяца назад +2

    Love you Bob & Peppermint ❤

  • @myriamtouil3347
    @myriamtouil3347 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for your work ❤

  • @interstellartraveler8956
    @interstellartraveler8956 3 месяца назад

    Loved this episode! Very insightful to hear the impact of the blm movement outside of just the U.S, and I truly believe open dialogue like this will minimize diaspora wars going forward

  • @ericdwhitmorec
    @ericdwhitmorec 3 месяца назад +1

    A few of us actually got to the end of mavis beacon...we were shocked.

  • @nobonemarrow
    @nobonemarrow 3 месяца назад +1

    i was literally starting to think mavis beacon was a mandela effect bc no one remembers her
    i was so gagged when bob brought that shit up💀💀

  • @paedreau1
    @paedreau1 3 месяца назад

    Yes, Peppermint does look stunning in every color! ❤

  • @nanoupunkie
    @nanoupunkie 3 месяца назад +3

    Peppermint is serving a Senegalese woman going to a wedding

  • @Mariposa-11-2007
    @Mariposa-11-2007 3 месяца назад

    Loved all these guests. I neeeeeeeed to hear Alexia's story at least once a week. She is so right about all the things! THANK YOU, Alexia 🖤🤎

  • @jushuji
    @jushuji 3 месяца назад +4

    Cute when is part two coming out with darkskin people who speak about their experiences

  • @justinsaraguard5130
    @justinsaraguard5130 3 месяца назад

    Not Bob bringing up two tone lips! I thought I was the only one that loved it!

  • @FocalPointElisa
    @FocalPointElisa 3 месяца назад

    My Mother experienced colorism in her family and outside, and I'm thankful she didn't internalize it to the extent that she expressed the same negative sentiments to me. A darker skin black woman.
    The Fetishization of the dark black man and the light black woman... HISTORY!

  • @pauliboyx
    @pauliboyx 3 месяца назад +4

    peppermint is so beautiful

  • @siscoramos5315
    @siscoramos5315 3 месяца назад +1

    Ok so my very first thought when this shit opened up was
    OoOoZEMPIC!

  • @randomfurby9013
    @randomfurby9013 3 месяца назад +1

    MAVIS BEACON!!! Bob that was deep reference thank you

  • @codyputman5651
    @codyputman5651 3 месяца назад

    Oh my goshhh Mavis Beacon taught me to type!!!!!!!

  • @saraht1367
    @saraht1367 3 месяца назад

    I love my two tone lips as well!!!

  • @y2kjordi
    @y2kjordi 3 месяца назад +1

    a great morning smoke vid

  • @cereyza
    @cereyza 3 месяца назад +2

    the sync of this is really off :(

  • @josephm8628
    @josephm8628 3 месяца назад

    Good luck on The Traitors 3 diva ❤️❤️

  • @cheecha69
    @cheecha69 3 месяца назад +1

    is peppermint ok?

  • @Palehotdog
    @Palehotdog 3 месяца назад

    So glad Bobs gonna be on Traitors. Defend Miss Peppermints honor bcus the phobes were so bothered and sent her home first for NO reason at all.

  • @ericdwhitmorec
    @ericdwhitmorec 3 месяца назад

    Mavis Beacon and Ghostwriter have definitely met

  • @Xanadudancer
    @Xanadudancer 3 месяца назад +1

    Peppermint seems to be dis bumbled having hard time talking

  • @applejuice396
    @applejuice396 3 месяца назад +4

    Talk about palestine

  • @NayNaySayersX
    @NayNaySayersX 3 месяца назад +1

    💜✨💜

  • @laurios693
    @laurios693 3 месяца назад

    Stop saying "latin-ex". It's LATINE.

  • @emmaroid9460
    @emmaroid9460 3 месяца назад +1

    OMG Peppermint is looking like an actual GODDESS

  • @shongueesha7875
    @shongueesha7875 3 месяца назад +5

    Not Peppermint saying she isn't lightskin and literally looking whiter than any European who just went to Spain for 2 weeks. AND then she also says she should use sunscreen. Girl bye.

    • @GoGoFiasco
      @GoGoFiasco 3 месяца назад

      LMAOOOOOOO!!!! The way I’m cackling right now is so unmasculine, ROTFL!!!😩😩😩😆😆🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭 I’ve never seen a one-man draggin’ before! Hah!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @judysm95
      @judysm95 3 месяца назад +2

      Where I’m from when people say light skin they are really saying mixed, as in black and something else. Not saying that’s the correct or only way to use it, just common in my experience. That must also be the usage Pep is familiar with and why she, a child of two black people, doesn’t think of herself as light skin.

  • @Jacob42086
    @Jacob42086 3 месяца назад +15

    People that still say they have " jungle fever" nowadays irritate me

    • @ChristianStran
      @ChristianStran 3 месяца назад +2

      That is so so cringey. 😅

    • @beevonerd
      @beevonerd 3 месяца назад +2

      I still sing the theme from the movie sometimes, ngl Stevie Wonder ate that shit uuuupppppp 😂😂

  • @jessLaughBro
    @jessLaughBro 3 месяца назад +12

    The thumbnail alone got me excited, and I haven't even watched the video yet lol I love these two and I especially love hearing Bob speak on anything.

  • @hihihihi-k1h
    @hihihihi-k1h 3 месяца назад +6

    bob doing another video on colorism🤨 with PEPPERMINT 🥳

  • @gothgirlfriend713
    @gothgirlfriend713 3 месяца назад +5

    I remember Mavis Beacon!! Thanks for this podcast, I learned a lot. The guest speakers were great.

  • @Jacob42086
    @Jacob42086 3 месяца назад +6

    I am so SO HAPPY bob talked about the drag artist C Maddox!! I grew up watching her drag queen make-up videos so I'm happy someone else can talk about their greatness RIP C MADDOX 🎉❤❤

    • @Layneee323
      @Layneee323 3 месяца назад +1

      Loving seeing the love in the comments for C Maddox too ❤ I grew up watching her too and think about her so often I’m glad she’s still in people’s hearts and memories

  • @Rachel4momo
    @Rachel4momo 3 месяца назад +2

    I’ve been hearing a lot of bad things about Amsterdam. We should have known they were problematic aft rear they arrested Nicki

  • @indigocharles7445
    @indigocharles7445 3 месяца назад +2

    I love Mavis, Black Icon, she taught me typing!!

  • @cheapglass3068
    @cheapglass3068 3 месяца назад +3

    I haven't heard Mavis Beacon since college!

  • @DemonQueen1975
    @DemonQueen1975 3 месяца назад +2

    Colorism is a disgusting and unfortunately part of everyday life, especially for people of color. Growing up as a light skinned Black girl, I was seen as White, even though I have NEVER identified as White. I've always thought of myself as Black. It was to the point where I have been called White to my face by darker skinned Black people, especially in Haiti, where my family's from. And my family is a broad spectrum of skin tones, from the lightest of the light to the darkest of the dark. I've even been told that I need some sun in some instances. And in Haiti, there's been a long and complex history regarding 'pure' Black Haitians and mulattos (those with French ancestry). I'm glad that colorism was the topic of discussion because people of color, regardless of skin tone, light skinned or dark skinned, go through it in many ways.

    • @naiynes
      @naiynes 3 месяца назад

      Lightskinned people do not experience colourism. That's like saying white people experience racism.

  • @nandikmusic
    @nandikmusic 3 месяца назад +1

    1:39 Peppermint, you're flawless 😍

  • @Layneee323
    @Layneee323 3 месяца назад +1

    Shout out CMaddox biitch thought of her immediately and gasped when you said her name. Love and miss that amazing queen.

  • @MochaSmokaLatte
    @MochaSmokaLatte 3 месяца назад +1

    I wonder if Bob finds dark skin guys attractive enough to date? alien conspiracy theorist say no🎉

  • @Long_May_They_Raine
    @Long_May_They_Raine 3 месяца назад +1

    That’s so funny I just rewatched the Babadook yesterday

  • @PsychicMedium4747
    @PsychicMedium4747 3 месяца назад

    black does not come in all shades...mixed race comes in all shades

  • @amylou22snowhite
    @amylou22snowhite 3 месяца назад +1

    Ooohey ooohey oh!

  • @nandikmusic
    @nandikmusic 3 месяца назад +1

    53:06 your lips are beautiful Bob 🥰

  • @Billiewil
    @Billiewil 2 месяца назад

    Colorism is sooo Mean Girls and so tired. .RACE IS NOT A CHOICE.

  • @dayday3439
    @dayday3439 3 месяца назад

    32 years... and never knew Mavis Beacon was black 🫣

  • @BrittanyElenaRemo
    @BrittanyElenaRemo 3 месяца назад +1

    It’s crazy how true this is. I’m half Filipino and can get pretty tan and used to swim and play water polo. My Lola always would say how dark I was and my friend even asked if I’m wearing sunscreen like getting tan was bad?.

    • @ianjohnson1249
      @ianjohnson1249 3 месяца назад

      Getting tan is bad for your skin. Tanning is a stress response to protect the skin. Everyone should including brown and black people wear sunblock if they wanna protect their skin from UV damage.

  • @Aurian_Luna_Lou
    @Aurian_Luna_Lou 3 месяца назад

    Éire sure look.... 🇨🇮

  • @softbabymagick5614
    @softbabymagick5614 3 месяца назад +3

    peppermint looks tf good, as always, but is also aging in reverse!

    • @softbabymagick5614
      @softbabymagick5614 3 месяца назад

      thank y'all so much for doing this podcast episode, it brought up a lot of emotions for me and i feel like a LOT of people need to hear these points of views. thank u thank u thank u !

  • @311Dominique
    @311Dominique 3 месяца назад

    I remember using Mavis beacon to learn how to type. It didn't work, I still can't type. I believe it's my ADHD and dyslexia. It's the worst

  • @beevonerd
    @beevonerd 3 месяца назад

    Bob!! I homeschooled myself using Mavis Beacon products when I was 12-14 lmaooooo literally no one ever knows wtf that is.
    But also htf do you know that but not who MORRIS DAY is!?? My God 😮

  • @jackl8025
    @jackl8025 3 месяца назад

    cant wait to watch but home come y'all post at 6, 5 central? what does the algorithm know that we dont?

  • @aaronnauer2398
    @aaronnauer2398 3 месяца назад

    Hi

  • @byhookorcrookp
    @byhookorcrookp 3 месяца назад

    Please do a part II with dark skinned guests.

  • @TheeChristopherEsley
    @TheeChristopherEsley 3 месяца назад

    Shoutout to the Morris Day reference

  • @thedarthflagger
    @thedarthflagger 3 месяца назад

    Yall forget about Roshumba

  • @ericdwhitmorec
    @ericdwhitmorec 3 месяца назад

    ...And The Time!

  • @kelseymathis544
    @kelseymathis544 3 месяца назад

  • @cheapglass3068
    @cheapglass3068 3 месяца назад +2

    But Aunt Jemima's grandon said his grandmother loved being Aunt Jemima and being her got her out of poverty.

  • @selalewis9189
    @selalewis9189 3 месяца назад +1

    I love the international perspective brought to this discussion. Kudos to To Black Queer Town Hall for sticking around 🤗🤗🤗