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@@philipzanoni maybe if she's trying to make a point the producers should have done a bit of research and reported accurately instead of just pushing out an obvious segment of fear porn.
I had to learn how to replace the old steal lines with copper ones in my entire home because I could not find a plumber that would do the job without using CPVC. I'm glad I just did it myself.
@@CotronixcoI was relocating a bathroom and decided to just replace all the lines. I just wanted copper throughout the entire home, and was unsure if any of the steel lines had any lead, plus during replacing them I noticed a lot of buildup that was causing some restriction in the old lines.
@@Cotronixco Enough that if someone was doing the dishs or flushed the toilet at the same time as someone taking a shower they could fell the pressure difference.
I have the same thought, why is it legal. I'm a tile guy and have broken several cpvc pipes over the years doing demos. I just snapped one by simply unscrewing the shower head stem.
Im a licensed home inspector and former plumber. I've used cpvc in many many jobs including my own home. It's rated for the same lifespan as copper. Yes, you can't hit it hard after it's been installed for a decade, as it can be brittle, but left undisturbed it's great material if installed correctly.
I suspect the biggest problem with CPVC is improper installations. Every joint should be thoroughly primed, cemented, then twisted in place. I did a 1/2 bath and kitchen in my house in CPVC over 40 years ago and it's still fine. However, about 12 years back, I changed over to using copper or PEX exclusively. PS. I'm a licensed plumber
Stress on the pipes we can bend it that extra inch when its NEW giving its in the wall 30 years and the weather going from 110 to 60 over night it is cracking . I have seen it Missouri no Code area .Truck Stop the plumbing went from the well to the building 1-1/4 PVC once in the Building it went to CPVC stretching 200 foot they ran it along the wall over the door ways back down to the floor around corners buck up drilled holes ran a T into the Restrooms and Kitchen and its been busting no reason other then its old . If someone wanted to kick it they could in a few area no shelving . The Pipe has turned Dark in color not the light tan but more brown and its cracking , if you cut it its shatters like glass . I was Licensed in Michigan Where I live they have no Code and Laugh if you say your Licensed . It don't mater when the Live in a Chicken coop with Garden hose for water call it home , They sell it as a Home .
This is very true I've wondered about these pipes for many years just lately working on a system that had to be re-fixed I noticed the pipes are very fragile in the old days guys are using schedule 40 they just lightly sanded the joints with some sandpaper and never had any problems personally I've use schedule 40 on air lines going up to 120 lb of pressure in my shop. And I've seen many shops with schedule 40 for air lines.
Here in NC, our town has the best quality water supply. My 22 years old house has white PVC for cold water and yellow striped CPVC for hot water. A few days ago, the CPVC line in the basement broke at a long stretch part without any trigger event. My neighbors CPVC lines started breaking in recent years. That we need a whole house repipe work is just a matter of when not if.
@@SixTwoHemi PVC is only for drain lines... it doesn't even come in the right diameter to be used as a fresh water line, like i don't think you even could hook it up to your sink as a water supply bc they aren't compatible.
@@kevincampbell7276 and be sure to not get the brass fittings with lead in them. And btw, depending on what your water has in it, the brass fittings will start to deteriorate and leak/ snap. So, generally speaking, one shouldn’t give generic advice on global platforms, such as RUclips because everybody’s water is different depending on your municipality.
Our house was built 2008, and just last month about 2am I noticed a small puddle of water on the floor in the section of our unfinished basement. I looked up and notice in the middle of a 10ft section of CPVC pipe water droplet was forming, about ever 30 second it would drop to the floor. Turn the water main off, and noticed a pin size hole in the CPVC pipe, lucking I was able to use some plastic epoxy I had to fix the pipe. After 4 hr later epoxy fully cured and I was able to turn the main back on. I was lucky that night because that section of CPVC was in an open area of the house, we have 3 floor house with CPVC running all through the walls. So be very careful when turning on or off the water valves behind your toilet or under your sink, you could just crack the CPVC not meaning to.
I'm a plumber. I have numerous times put just a slight twisting pressure on the pipe in an attempt to change angle stop valves and the pipe simply snaps off. I will not do repairs on homes that have this pipe.
Pretty much every house in my area has cpvc. It's been in use for years it is fine it is used for hot water applications where regular pvc won't work. No matter what your pipes are made of eventually they will need replacing.
To an extent yeah they’ll all fail, but cpvc is sketchy, it works but it’s sketchy. If there’s a freeze up it’ll fuck up a lot more pipe than if it were copper. I don’t work with pex here outside Chicago but it’s also safer than cpvc imo
That’s not a good way to compare it that’s like building your whole house with styrofoam and then saying eventually any material would need to be replaced
@@nolantanaka565 If you've seen the fire videos out there look how fast any newer home are gone. Foam insulation that is flammable, same for spray foam, Plastic pipes flammable, not putting in fire stops anymore it seems. Copper will last a long time so long as you don't have hard water eventually clogging them up from deposits just like the steel pipes. Well water filtered with no chemicals will seem them last much longer.
I have more problems with the fittings. The inside of the elbows and tees get these pin holes that spray a light mist and it takes a long time to show up on the drywall so keep looking up ever so often and catch it right away.
CPVC was the "next best thing" just as PEX is now. Oh, and polybutylene was the "next-best-thing" at one time also.🙄 One thing to remember is that every element of a home has an expected life. Learn what to expect and replace the elements before they will naturally fail. 🤔
CPVC in my house, only had 2 leaks. Have a valve that I operate twice a year made out of CPVC, haven’t had it shatter like others said when they touch the pipe. Only 26 years old I guess time will tell.
Meanwhile, significant recalls are taking place for certain types of pex tubing and connectors due to significant leaks after 10-15 years. My son just passed on buying a house after the home inspector showed up and turned on the water and 4 separate leaks were identified within an hour. The inspector said he has seen dozens of pex homes that will need to be totally redone.
That's Zurn fittings for pex the pex tubing is fine the metal used in the fitting breaks down and also certain systems the rings will leak over time as the ring fights the pressure of the pipe trying to return to its original state. The best pex out there in my opinion would be the Uponor system. Its joints actually get stronger over time and it's been in use since the early 70s. Viega is a close second but to install these require specialty tools that a lot of people dont want to pay for or know how to use. It's easier to glue a joint :) hence cpvc
@@JacobLAChristenson It isn't just fittings. Recently, there's been a rising problem of Uponor pipe springing leaks. The problem has been identified and rectified, but the damage is done, and there's untold thousands of miles of it out in the wild now. I would personally still use it myself, I understand how it works, but it's taken a reputational hit.
@@SuperVeeZeedont know where you herd that Uponor has but I'm going to say that's false. I've been to Uponor factory and have used there product for years. No pipe last forever not even copper. Most leaks with pex that I have seen is install error. Except for the Zurn fittings and some of the copper rings. I would gladly use Uponor.
@@JacobLAChristenson i have not only heard it, but seen it. It isn't false. There is currently a class-action suit over it. What was happening was that, as part of applying the color coating, Uponor had a heat treatment. The running theory is that they overcooked it, leading to a premature pipe breakdown primarily on the hot side. I have seen it happen in as little as three years. Ive had sections of pipe cut out and brought to me where this has happened, and what you'll see is that the color coating is peeling off, and the pipe itself is orange through-and-through, rather than just a little bit of orange in the bore from some iron, which might be normal for some places. The blue is likely affected, too, but since it doesnt experience the same frequent temperature changes, it hasnt started popping. I believe the class-action is out of Colorado. Check it out. It isn't false. There's a reason Uponor went to a clear/white pipe with colored print a year or two ago instead of color-coated pipe like they had been doing.
True for these pipes and pretty much all pipes depending on age, even Uponor pipes are leaking. The amount of waste created from having to tear up walls, floors and ceilings is insane. We need young smart people innovating this antiquated technology.
It really makes you think when the INSURANCE COMPANY insists that PVC and CPVC be used over other piping systems. The last thing the insurance company wants is to get another claim on your house's piping. PVC and CPVC feature ease of use which means lower labor cost, and they are reliable. The insurance company does not want to choose a product that has a history of failing. The failure is in the way it was installed. Reliable joints are made when following the manufacturer's procedures. Prime your joints aggressively, use the correct cement, and let the product cure long enough before testing with pressurized water. Secure the piping but not so constrained that it can't expand/contract with temperature changes. Test your work to 150% of normal operating pressure, and you will have a long and happy existence with your PVC or CPVC piping. The pipe is not bad, it's the workmanship.
It's a great product and flows better than others. The Johnny-come-latelys talk about their longer life and they haven't been around long enough to know. CPVC doesn't get hard from the normal chlorine in the water like PEX does. CPVC has this problem over time if it is installed on a hot water line with a circulating pump.
@@KingSobieskiit’s much better than polyethylene pipe that they installed in the 80s. House was built in 89 and had poly. Previous homeowner had all the water lines replaced with CPVC now almost 25 years later and no issues. We had to replace a leaking expansion tank when we bought the place but other than that it’s all good. I would prefer copper but it’s more costly and labor intensive.
Never used that stuff on the west coast. I've always used copper, Just recently started using pex with crimp rings. I like it for cheap projects but will always prefer copper.
I'm using copper in my supply lines. I've never felt comfortable about CPVC or PVC over a period of time. I don't even entertain PEX. I stay with the technology that has been around for thousands of years.
I am a former plumber and home inspector. If any plastic pipe regardless of type is exposed to UV light, it will degrade that product overtime, which can lead to failure. CPVC is used for the hot water side of plumbing. FYI: There have been some brands of PEX that have been reported as being defective and all plumbing regardless of type has a service life. This is why its important to know how and where to turn off the water to your home. Its just a matter of time before you have a plumbing emergency. I have several videos on my channel about these issues. Great story and thanks for publishing it.
If CPVC is such a significant problem, as this news story states, then why is it still being installed? I suspect the problem is a result of either improper installation or manufacturer defects. This is the first I heard of CPVC have long running cracks.
Cpvc is great for any garden or exterior plumbing that allows easy maintenance but if inside a wall I only trust them for drains only not something that had to handle changing water pressure
I can’t believe cpvc is that common. The only time I use it is to repair existing or for T&P lines. I know a few in Texas who use it but I’d guess 90% of residential plumbing is pex. I know this was made two years ago but I can’t believe that the material cost difference between cpvc and pex would make up for the labor to install it. When I started in a small town in west Texas there were still lots of houses that had both pvc and cpvc for water lines. Pvc for cold and cpvc for hot. The way it was told to me is prior to quest, pex, and cpvc, they put out pressure pvc as a cheaper alternative to copper. However all the hotlines started failing because they aren’t designed for heat and that’s when they developed cpvc. So they’d only replace the hot side so they’d have both pipes.
Pex emits a persistent plastic taste to the water. I've had cpvc for hot water supply for 35 years and counting, where as I've had to replace copper and steel pipes over that period. Mine is protected from freezing, or drained at night during extended cold snaps. The copper busts at the joints in freezing weather, and the steel clogs due to corrosion. If you look where her lines are run, they are likely to freeze and bust. If her steel or copper lines failed in the slab, they probbly bypassed them by running the plumbing overhead. Pex would stand up to that better, and is ok for non-drinking/non-cooking lines, but you need anti-siphon fittings at the clothes washer, and a check valve on the pex side at the house supply line where you divide the two systems coming from the whole house filter. I would also insulate both cold and hot in her situation. Pressure variations from municipal water sources can cause any system to fail, but can be regulated on the home owner's side of the water meter, transferring the breaks due to pressure back onto the municipality side, who is responsible for them in the first place.
@@kathyern861 Municipal water quality can take those out quick with silt, salt or PH issues. But, they can help if your plumbing was designed at lower pressure. Ima gonna guess, no.
My homes water supply is groundwater feed from a deep NC well and flows through pex to my glass and it tastes like deep well groundwater. I'll be more than happy to let anyone sample it . Maybe it's a deeper issue than your pex lines I'm not taking up for mine because they too are pex if my lines were gold and tainted the water I would be as honest.
Did much of our home 22 years ago with Schedule 40 and copper from old steel. Have had no issues what so ever. The issue with copper is of course years of trace amounts if you drink it and don't have filtration. I don't think pex has been around long enough to really say it would last a long time.
Nothing lasts forever, galvanized rusts out, builds up, copper fails due to electrolysis and other issues, pvc/cpvc gets highly brittle, pex seems to be the latest what could go wrong piping system. There have been some recalls and lawsuits, uponor, viega, raehau and a few others but overall it seems like a good alternative to copper which depending on where you live materials could cost as much as 50 times what pex cost.
My house was built in 1974 and has CPVC pipes. I had to replace one bad section in the crawl space. Hopefully that doesn't start happening in other places.
PEX pipe may have a 25-year warranty and yes will technically cover any damages caused by a leak so long as you use the correct connectors if you use uponor PEX then your installer must use all of uponor Pex fittings if they install uponor PEX and use a different brand of fittings your 25-year warranty becomes 10 years and they do not cover damages lospacks products are the same way if you do not use their fittings they do not cover damages
Where I live it is code required we use CPVC pipes. I hate the crap pipe! It's cheap, doesn't last, very brittle. On Christmas night I had a CPVC water supply line shatter to pieces like it had a bomb inside it. I've now switched to using Pex and haven't had any problems with it yet. I have 18 rental units that all have CPVC in them. CPVC and copper was the only approved piping we could use in this area till Pex came out. As each CPVC pipe fails I'm replacing with Pex.
I used cpvc in my house 17 years ago , no problems. But I’ve been remodeling lately and redoing some plumbing. I noticed that when I was cutting the cpvc with a ratchet type cutter , it would snap and not cut. It seems to be dried out.
Good luck with that hacksaw jack… what u think is gonna happen when you hold it in one hand and saw it with some pressure? It will crack somewhere most likely.
I like to use a hacksaw blade alone without a handle attached. Especially for tight corners. But I CUT ON THE PULL instead of cutting like most on the push which sometimes causes saw blade to bind up.
Only in dominican republic and in other tropical countries they use pvc cpvc and polipropaine pipes polipropane pipes work only with thermofusion it does not require pvc cement
I like how she said you won’t have to go through your insurance company if you have a loss with PECS. Unfortunately she is wrong, you still have to file a claim with your insurance. The only difference is that you will have to have your insurance company subrogate against the pipe manufacturer.
Glade you all made a distinction between CPVC and PEX piping. PEX is sometimes referred too as PVC but it is way thicker and much stronger then cooper pipes.
I find it sad that the reporters did not distinguish between CPVC and what I know as just PVC. How many homeowners are going to look under their sinks, see some plastic and go running and screaming to sell their house when it may not have any CPVC in it at all...
After watching this l located some cpvc l had left over from 16 years ago and l made a number of cuts through it with the hand held shears designed for that job. All of the pieces were just as soft and easily cut as when it was new. Point being, it's probably not age that degrades this material but rather the heat from the hot water this pipe was designed to carry.
It's very hit-and-miss. I tore out some CPVC a neighbor had in a detached laundry room that started to spray. On one single section of pipe, some parts of it were brittle and cracked/shattered when I tried to cut it, other parts cut clean like it was new. Was very interesting to see.
@@jefflemieux8834 In fact that is the only issue people have found over time with CPVC and if it shows up it is usually on lines where there is a hot water circulation pumps. Of course with PEX, it gets brittle with chlorine which is used everywhere that has municipal water. People try to compare PEX longevity when PEX hasn't been around long enough compared to CPVC, Copper, and Galvanized to prove anything of the sort.
@@skt4711 True, but with PEX A and expansion fittings, we don't have the chance of erosive corrosion that we do with copper, when we are relying on ME to remember to ream the inside of each cut, because I won't, and there WILL be an erosive corrosion failure. And Galvie is absolutely worthless if it touches dirt or concrete. Also, copper, Galvie, and either of the PVC's, C- or not, are GUARANTEED to break when frozen.
As a plumber, I’ve come across PEX joints that have pulled themselves apart causing crap ton of damage… For my own house it is copper and properly soldered joints ONLY…
@@sonacphotos i just seen a video on pex a and why its failing in city water situations it has something to do with breakpoint chlorination the chloramine in the water system is chemically melting the pipes in 7 years look it up integrity repiping llc
Cpvc, in my experience an installer should be certified by the manufacturer of it's fittings. Specialized knowledge is needed to understand cpvc's cure time for new installations. How it reacts to temperature changes with regard to shrink/expansion. Is recessed lighting installed to close to it? Have alterations been made to the structure since it was installed? Was it installed beneath the insulation in the attic areas? I do appreciate PEX for it's robust ability to better endure risks of freezing.
That drain pipe she had her hand on is tubular plastic,NOT,CPVC! I had to pipe my house with cpvc.The spring water was eating up the copper.I could have used L type copper(heavier) but I didn"t know that at the time.I re piped my house 30 years ago,don"t think pex was around yet.Anyway,never had a problem altho,that"s with spring water,55 psi max. and the house is in NJ. Can easily be repaired with sharkbite fittings.
I know of many houses in the east coast of the US that have been piped with CPVC and they have no issues, furthermore many plumbing contactors there also use CPVC, anyone know why if the pipe is so bad?
You must use the same primer on the cpvc as you use on the pvc….! Then you have to use the orange colored cpvc cement…! You will have no leak problems at the joints if you follow these simple procedures..! All pvc and cpvc joints are also meant to be bottomed out as well….!! Not close…. not very close but bottomed out… that’s why this product is so affordable… so you can redo it if it’s not quite right…. If your are going to diy.. diy right the first time
So great, I have this inside my walls. Awesome knowing I cant rip them out without causing a major catastrophe to begin with. Guess Ill wait for a leak.
i worked at marriot hotel built in 2015 ..all cpvc ...i could not even turn a shut off when i needed to do a repair....its approved but i never use it...
Cpvc plumbing does get brittle over time but if it is not subjected to extreme cold or heat nothing will happen. The lady with the split pipe that went up in the attic and was close to the roof was a failed installation. No plumbing should be that close to the roof not even copper.
Cpvc is great long lasting when behind a wall away from sun, 30 plus years and my moms home is still working perfectly, this is a install issue, possibly wrong glue used or mix n match brands, but its a great product, not better than pex a or b
In India the Plumbing in my Dad's rental property is about 80 yrs old. No leak in 80 yrs. I think in USA they don't care for quality. Yes India is not a rich country. But I have never heard of any home in India have water leaks. Yes toilet tanks need minor changes like replacing worn parts. In USA everything is done fast. My friend bought 60 yr old home in Kansas for 45 k. That house had no problems but a 600k home today has a lot of problems. Very poor work ethics in America. Need to make strict laws protecting consumer.
So how about when copper and any other water line fails? Pex fails at the joints too and it's definitely going to be buried. Or at least kept from light
Cpvc is fine for the run from your t&p valve on your water heater, because it shouldn't really ever have water in it, unless the t&p valve or expansion tank fails. For the water lines in your home NO WAY
Nothing is gonna last forever but for CPVC it's been around over 60 years + Longer than I have been a plumber. True it does get brittle and when it freezes when it's brittle it'll split to one joint to the other. True when it gets brittle it's much more vulnerable. But we have no idea what pex is gonna be after 60 years + too it might be worse. My experience over the years with plastic all gets vulnerable in time. It's a nature of plastic. She mentioned 25 years warranty for pecks that's not completely true. Some has lowered it down to 10 years. There's a lot of different brands of pecks out there if you use a different brand fitting then the pipe is that will lower your warranty also. Lot of plumbers don't even know that. I've heard as low as one year Warranty
I'm living in a house built in 1956 with galvanized pipes. The only pipe that's gone bad is the underground water service from the meter to the house. I replaced that with sch 40 PVC. Everything else is good!
No it’s not harmful (only for the guy doing the actual galvanizing is it harmful) and as a plus, you will NEVER have an iron deficiency in your diet if you have galvanized piping !! (The stuff rusts like crazy on the inside)
Galvanized pipe rusts from the inside out, eventually there will be leaks! It can look good on the outside but much different on the inside! I've seen galvanized pipe rust inside til the waterfowl was almost stopped from rust buildup! It happens slowly and most people don't notice it til its gets bad! People seems to be the go to now, time will tell what the negatives of it are! Just like the old Quest pipe (Grey polybeautelyne) it's problems we're mostly the fittings!
@@scott1395 Dad built our home in 1950. Back then everything was pretty much galvanized. With some remodeling in the 1980s, everything was changed to copper. Since copper prices have gotten steep, PEX is easy to use but you still need the correct pex for applications.
That's the key word dictating your decision. Large corporations are no different than government. They operate in the same manner. Policies that strip you from your rights. Dictating what rights you have.
Ask the guys involved in the countless PEX lawsuits how well that pipe is going… the joints in PEX can and will pull apart… just go with copper… I’ve done remodels on houses with 50 year old copper and the stuff is still good as new..
I’m a plumber in South Carolina we use pex now the cpvc is trash same as the polybutylene pipe they had all the trouble with some years back I refuse to use cpvc on any application I’ve seen so many breaks an leaks especially in winter time which I’m the south is not that bad but a few days of below freezing n a row if you have cpvc pipe in your house that the cold air can get to it will bust please do not use or let anyone tell you this pipe is good and if you have it in your home get ride of it asap cost you less now to repipe then it will to repair the water damage it’s gonna cause when you’re on vacation one week an it bust in you
It's for hot water pipes. Regular PVC isn't good to higher temperature. This report has so much wrong information it's a crime. Cpvc is not less expensive, it's actually more expensive. And it's only different quality is the extra chlorine in the PVC that makes it less rigid and more durable under higher temperature. Just like most tv news these days, it's useless
Yeah. Pex? Seems almost identical to the poly buel pipe that came out 30ish years ago that got banned about 20 years ago. If a plumber encounters poly buel pipe leaks they have to replace everything from the leak all the way back to where the water comes into the house. The pipe itself seemed to be fine but the connections would leak if you just lightly bumped the pipes. Pex looks exactly the same to me. The best option still seems to be copper with lead free soldering. But $$$ and time and fire risks during repairs...
Every pipe has issues, some problems depend on your water. I would say copper is the best, but my neighbor has a well and the water eats copper in no time. I have city water and have the original copper from 1970 and it has not had any problems, although some of the shut off valves need to be replaced. In another house I own, it was galvanized pipe, it became so clogged from rust after 50 years I replaced it with cpvc, 15 years later replacing the water heater, the pipe was so brittle, I was afraid to keep using it. Every since then, I have used pex B, and so far, no problems. Some will say pex A is better, in some ways it can be, but it leaches more chemicals into your water, the fittings are much more expensive and the expansion tool is very expensive. And like many others have said about the report, the pipe she pointed to under the sink is pvc, not cpvc, so have someone that knows what they are talking about check your story before putting it out!
Plastic Leaching: Plastic pipe, fittings, and the chemical solvents and adhesives used to bond and seal them all use complex chemical blends, hydrocarbons and other additives. These substances leach from pipe walls over time, especially in plumbing exposed to heat or hot water. Where would you be without Chemicals!
I love how she points out the trap as a water line 😂
And it's pvc not cpvc. Imagine all the other things the media gets wrong.........
That’s what happens when you don’t research a story
@@seanlevoy9446 Due to negligence and/or agenda.
@@Kyohan137 " Research " is not their priority. The priority is to scare the crap out of you 😂😂😂😂😂 in today media.
She has no idea what the hell she is talking about anyway
She touching the pvc drain under the sink! Which is not cpvc nor is it a water line…
True. But homeowners don't know that. And she's just making a point. Only we know. And fuck. It's not like she's gonna be replymbing your home Jack.
@@philipzanoni before we go there… what point did she make? What will the homeowner understand from this? And btw it’s Richard 😁
Don't worry about it Bud.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
@@philipzanoni maybe if she's trying to make a point the producers should have done a bit of research and reported accurately instead of just pushing out an obvious segment of fear porn.
I had to learn how to replace the old steal lines with copper ones in my entire home because I could not find a plumber that would do the job without using CPVC. I'm glad I just did it myself.
Did your old pipes rip you off?
@@CotronixcoI was relocating a bathroom and decided to just replace all the lines. I just wanted copper throughout the entire home, and was unsure if any of the steel lines had any lead, plus during replacing them I noticed a lot of buildup that was causing some restriction in the old lines.
@@Hasher411 LOL. How much did the old plumbing end up stealing from you?
@@Cotronixco Enough that if someone was doing the dishs or flushed the toilet at the same time as someone taking a shower they could fell the pressure difference.
@@Hasher411 LOL
I plumbed my house with CPVC when I built it in 1979. Everything is CPVC, and I have had no troubles at all. None.
Crazy that cpvc is still being used. Im in Remodeling and have broken cpvc on multiple occasions barley bumping into it. Sad they can still sell it
I have the same thought, why is it legal. I'm a tile guy and have broken several cpvc pipes over the years doing demos. I just snapped one by simply unscrewing the shower head stem.
Same here… it will soon be banned like the quest piping. There’s just no beating copper.
If you just look at it the wrong way that thing will snap lol
It's a crazy world made with plastic, destined for the garbage dump.
@@nolantanaka565 pex
Im a licensed home inspector and former plumber. I've used cpvc in many many jobs including my own home. It's rated for the same lifespan as copper. Yes, you can't hit it hard after it's been installed for a decade, as it can be brittle, but left undisturbed it's great material if installed correctly.
I suspect the biggest problem with CPVC is improper installations. Every joint should be thoroughly primed, cemented, then twisted in place. I did a 1/2 bath and kitchen in my house in CPVC over 40 years ago and it's still fine.
However, about 12 years back, I changed over to using copper or PEX exclusively. PS. I'm a licensed plumber
Here in kanas cpvc isn’t the standard no more. I hate seeing in houses to just knowing it’s a problem
I think it comes down to what’s in your water.
Stress on the pipes we can bend it that extra inch when its NEW giving its in the wall 30 years and the weather going from 110 to 60 over night it is cracking . I have seen it Missouri no Code area .Truck Stop the plumbing went from the well to the building 1-1/4 PVC once in the Building it went to CPVC stretching 200 foot they ran it along the wall over the door ways back down to the floor around corners buck up drilled holes ran a T into the Restrooms and Kitchen and its been busting no reason other then its old . If someone wanted to kick it they could in a few area no shelving . The Pipe has turned Dark in color not the light tan but more brown and its cracking , if you cut it its shatters like glass . I was Licensed in Michigan Where I live they have no Code and Laugh if you say your Licensed . It don't mater when the Live in a Chicken coop with Garden hose for water call it home , They sell it as a Home .
Rats chew on pex and pex has always been garbage you must not be a experienced plumber
I would bet cpvc will break faster than copper in a freeze up .
This is very true I've wondered about these pipes for many years just lately working on a system that had to be re-fixed I noticed the pipes are very fragile in the old days guys are using schedule 40 they just lightly sanded the joints with some sandpaper and never had any problems personally I've use schedule 40 on air lines going up to 120 lb of pressure in my shop. And I've seen many shops with schedule 40 for air lines.
Damn I’d never put more than 10psi of air in sch. 80 to test for minor leak in CW loops. 120 psi air is insane.
Here in NC, our town has the best quality water supply. My 22 years old house has white PVC for cold water and yellow striped CPVC for hot water. A few days ago, the CPVC line in the basement broke at a long stretch part without any trigger event. My neighbors CPVC lines started breaking in recent years. That we need a whole house repipe work is just a matter of when not if.
PVC water lines 🤔 that’s the first I’ve ever heard of DWV pipe used for domestic water.
@@SixTwoHemi PVC is only for drain lines... it doesn't even come in the right diameter to be used as a fresh water line, like i don't think you even could hook it up to your sink as a water supply bc they aren't compatible.
What fucking world are these people living in??
Yes be sure to use pex with the brass fittings and the cinch bands
@@kevincampbell7276 and be sure to not get the brass fittings with lead in them. And btw, depending on what your water has in it, the brass fittings will start to deteriorate and leak/ snap. So, generally speaking, one shouldn’t give generic advice on global platforms, such as RUclips because everybody’s water is different depending on your municipality.
Our house was built 2008, and just last month about 2am I noticed a small puddle of water on the floor in the section of our unfinished basement. I looked up and notice in the middle of a 10ft section of CPVC pipe water droplet was forming, about ever 30 second it would drop to the floor. Turn the water main off, and noticed a pin size hole in the CPVC pipe, lucking I was able to use some plastic epoxy I had to fix the pipe. After 4 hr later epoxy fully cured and I was able to turn the main back on.
I was lucky that night because that section of CPVC was in an open area of the house, we have 3 floor house with CPVC running all through the walls.
So be very careful when turning on or off the water valves behind your toilet or under your sink, you could just crack the CPVC not meaning to.
I'm a plumber. I have numerous times put just a slight twisting pressure on the pipe in an attempt to change angle stop valves and the pipe simply snaps off. I will not do repairs on homes that have this pipe.
This is the best you need a plumber commercial i have ever seen. As a plumber thank you
Pretty much every house in my area has cpvc. It's been in use for years it is fine it is used for hot water applications where regular pvc won't work. No matter what your pipes are made of eventually they will need replacing.
The difference is after 10 years it will go bad. Great for the next gen of plumbers.
Might be why we use copper here in Chicago.
To an extent yeah they’ll all fail, but cpvc is sketchy, it works but it’s sketchy. If there’s a freeze up it’ll fuck up a lot more pipe than if it were copper. I don’t work with pex here outside Chicago but it’s also safer than cpvc imo
That’s not a good way to compare it that’s like building your whole house with styrofoam and then saying eventually any material would need to be replaced
@@nolantanaka565 If you've seen the fire videos out there look how fast any newer home are gone. Foam insulation that is flammable, same for spray foam, Plastic pipes flammable, not putting in fire stops anymore it seems.
Copper will last a long time so long as you don't have hard water eventually clogging them up from deposits just like the steel pipes.
Well water filtered with no chemicals will seem them last much longer.
I only use CPVC for pan drains and relief valve outlets.
It does okay for cold water, but gets brittle on the hot side.
I have more problems with the fittings.
The inside of the elbows and tees get these pin holes that spray a light mist and it takes a long time to show up on the drywall so keep looking up ever so often and catch it right away.
CPVC was the "next best thing" just as PEX is now. Oh, and polybutylene was the "next-best-thing" at one time also.🙄
One thing to remember is that every element of a home has an expected life. Learn what to expect and replace the elements before they will naturally fail. 🤔
Yes, not sure why water lines were run thru a roofline either, no wonder it failed.....
CPVC in my house, only had 2 leaks. Have a valve that I operate twice a year made out of CPVC, haven’t had it shatter like others said when they touch the pipe. Only 26 years old I guess time will tell.
Meanwhile, significant recalls are taking place for certain types of pex tubing and connectors due to significant leaks after 10-15 years. My son just passed on buying a house after the home inspector showed up and turned on the water and 4 separate leaks were identified within an hour. The inspector said he has seen dozens of pex homes that will need to be totally redone.
That's Zurn fittings for pex the pex tubing is fine the metal used in the fitting breaks down and also certain systems the rings will leak over time as the ring fights the pressure of the pipe trying to return to its original state. The best pex out there in my opinion would be the Uponor system. Its joints actually get stronger over time and it's been in use since the early 70s. Viega is a close second but to install these require specialty tools that a lot of people dont want to pay for or know how to use. It's easier to glue a joint :) hence cpvc
@@JacobLAChristenson It isn't just fittings. Recently, there's been a rising problem of Uponor pipe springing leaks. The problem has been identified and rectified, but the damage is done, and there's untold thousands of miles of it out in the wild now.
I would personally still use it myself, I understand how it works, but it's taken a reputational hit.
@@SuperVeeZeedont know where you herd that Uponor has but I'm going to say that's false. I've been to Uponor factory and have used there product for years. No pipe last forever not even copper. Most leaks with pex that I have seen is install error. Except for the Zurn fittings and some of the copper rings. I would gladly use Uponor.
Yup if it has pex it needs all new plumbing
@@JacobLAChristenson i have not only heard it, but seen it. It isn't false. There is currently a class-action suit over it.
What was happening was that, as part of applying the color coating, Uponor had a heat treatment. The running theory is that they overcooked it, leading to a premature pipe breakdown primarily on the hot side. I have seen it happen in as little as three years. Ive had sections of pipe cut out and brought to me where this has happened, and what you'll see is that the color coating is peeling off, and the pipe itself is orange through-and-through, rather than just a little bit of orange in the bore from some iron, which might be normal for some places. The blue is likely affected, too, but since it doesnt experience the same frequent temperature changes, it hasnt started popping.
I believe the class-action is out of Colorado. Check it out. It isn't false. There's a reason Uponor went to a clear/white pipe with colored print a year or two ago instead of color-coated pipe like they had been doing.
True for these pipes and pretty much all pipes depending on age, even Uponor pipes are leaking. The amount of waste created from having to tear up walls, floors and ceilings is insane. We need young smart people innovating this antiquated technology.
you never know until the product has actually been tested in the real world 😅
It really makes you think when the INSURANCE COMPANY insists that PVC and CPVC be used over other piping systems. The last thing the insurance company wants is to get another claim on your house's piping.
PVC and CPVC feature ease of use which means lower labor cost, and they are reliable. The insurance company does not want to choose a product that has a history of failing. The failure is in the way it was installed.
Reliable joints are made when following the manufacturer's procedures. Prime your joints aggressively, use the correct cement, and let the product cure long enough before testing with pressurized water. Secure the piping but not so constrained that it can't expand/contract with temperature changes. Test your work to 150% of normal operating pressure, and you will have a long and happy existence with your PVC or CPVC piping. The pipe is not bad, it's the workmanship.
it's a trash product bro quit simping for cpvc
It's a great product and flows better than others. The Johnny-come-latelys talk about their longer life and they haven't been around long enough to know. CPVC doesn't get hard from the normal chlorine in the water like PEX does. CPVC has this problem over time if it is installed on a hot water line with a circulating pump.
Agreed
@@KingSobieskiit’s much better than polyethylene pipe that they installed in the 80s. House was built in 89 and had poly. Previous homeowner had all the water lines replaced with CPVC now almost 25 years later and no issues. We had to replace a leaking expansion tank when we bought the place but other than that it’s all good. I would prefer copper but it’s more costly and labor intensive.
@@The1JBanks lol you mean polybutlyne?
Never used that stuff on the west coast. I've always used copper, Just recently started using pex with crimp rings. I like it for cheap projects but will always prefer copper.
We always used hard copper water lines with soldered joints..
Copper is a second mortgage it's so expensive.
I'm using copper in my supply lines. I've never felt comfortable about CPVC or PVC over a period of time. I don't even entertain PEX. I stay with the technology that has been around for thousands of years.
I am a former plumber and home inspector. If any plastic pipe regardless of type is exposed to UV light, it will degrade that product overtime, which can lead to failure. CPVC is used for the hot water side of plumbing. FYI: There have been some brands of PEX that have been reported as being defective and all plumbing regardless of type has a service life. This is why its important to know how and where to turn off the water to your home. Its just a matter of time before you have a plumbing emergency. I have several videos on my channel about these issues. Great story and thanks for publishing it.
If CPVC is such a significant problem, as this news story states, then why is it still being installed? I suspect the problem is a result of either improper installation or manufacturer defects. This is the first I heard of CPVC have long running cracks.
Cpvc is great for any garden or exterior plumbing that allows easy maintenance but if inside a wall I only trust them for drains only not something that had to handle changing water pressure
I can’t believe cpvc is that common. The only time I use it is to repair existing or for T&P lines. I know a few in Texas who use it but I’d guess 90% of residential plumbing is pex. I know this was made two years ago but I can’t believe that the material cost difference between cpvc and pex would make up for the labor to install it.
When I started in a small town in west Texas there were still lots of houses that had both pvc and cpvc for water lines. Pvc for cold and cpvc for hot. The way it was told to me is prior to quest, pex, and cpvc, they put out pressure pvc as a cheaper alternative to copper. However all the hotlines started failing because they aren’t designed for heat and that’s when they developed cpvc. So they’d only replace the hot side so they’d have both pipes.
When she grabs the tubular in the vanity and calls it CPVC 😁
What does she know!
When Noone really cares. This ain't tic tok. Bye
Pex emits a persistent plastic taste to the water. I've had cpvc for hot water supply for 35 years and counting, where as I've had to replace copper and steel pipes over that period. Mine is protected from freezing, or drained at night during extended cold snaps. The copper busts at the joints in freezing weather, and the steel clogs due to corrosion. If you look where her lines are run, they are likely to freeze and bust. If her steel or copper lines failed in the slab, they probbly bypassed them by running the plumbing overhead. Pex would stand up to that better, and is ok for non-drinking/non-cooking lines, but you need anti-siphon fittings at the clothes washer, and a check valve on the pex side at the house supply line where you divide the two systems coming from the whole house filter. I would also insulate both cold and hot in her situation. Pressure variations from municipal water sources can cause any system to fail, but can be regulated on the home owner's side of the water meter, transferring the breaks due to pressure back onto the municipality side, who is responsible for them in the first place.
It’s Florida, that’s how they do.
municipality water pressure fluctuations? Install a pressure regulator on the line and - no more problems with that.
@@kathyern861
Municipal water quality can take those out quick with silt, salt or PH issues. But, they can help if your plumbing was designed at lower pressure. Ima gonna guess, no.
@@bauhnguefyische667 If you've got those bad problems then install filters. Ima gonna guess yes
My homes water supply is groundwater feed from a deep NC well and flows through pex to my glass and it tastes like deep well groundwater. I'll be more than happy to let anyone sample it . Maybe it's a deeper issue than your pex lines
I'm not taking up for mine because they too are pex if my lines were gold and tainted the water I would be as honest.
Did much of our home 22 years ago with Schedule 40 and copper from old steel. Have had no issues what so ever. The issue with copper is of course years of trace amounts if you drink it and don't have filtration.
I don't think pex has been around long enough to really say it would last a long time.
Nothing lasts forever, galvanized rusts out, builds up, copper fails due to electrolysis and other issues, pvc/cpvc gets highly brittle, pex seems to be the latest what could go wrong piping system. There have been some recalls and lawsuits, uponor, viega, raehau and a few others but overall it seems like a good alternative to copper which depending on where you live materials could cost as much as 50 times what pex cost.
Until you start to add up all those pex fittings. Then the math turns into pooop.
@@garycasper2929 we’re paying almost the same for pex fittings as copper here
@@cm5838 But since PEX is flexible you need 1/4 - 1/5 the fittings
My home with CPVC pipe for over 22 years now is still good, I don't believe what you guys said or does!
My house was built in 1974 and has CPVC pipes. I had to replace one bad section in the crawl space. Hopefully that doesn't start happening in other places.
When I first moved to Florida and had to deal with cpvc for the first time 😬. Horrible! And it's everywhere!
PEX pipe may have a 25-year warranty and yes will technically cover any damages caused by a leak so long as you use the correct connectors if you use uponor PEX then your installer must use all of uponor Pex fittings if they install uponor PEX and use a different brand of fittings your 25-year warranty becomes 10 years and they do not cover damages lospacks products are the same way if you do not use their fittings they do not cover damages
I'm sorry to hear that about CPVC.
CPVC, when not brittle, has a high heat temp rating under pressure.
Pex is made of HDPE high density polyethylene.
A similar product was used in the UK in the 1970's due to a copper shortage, very rarely see it now, if you do it's normally removed.
My plumber installed all Polybutalene water lines in my new home because it's the best!!
The main reasons builders use CPVC is price and people don't steal it from sites.
Where I live it is code required we use CPVC pipes. I hate the crap pipe! It's cheap, doesn't last, very brittle. On Christmas night I had a CPVC water supply line shatter to pieces like it had a bomb inside it. I've now switched to using Pex and haven't had any problems with it yet. I have 18 rental units that all have CPVC in them. CPVC and copper was the only approved piping we could use in this area till Pex came out. As each CPVC pipe fails I'm replacing with Pex.
I used cpvc in my house 17 years ago , no problems. But I’ve been remodeling lately and redoing some plumbing. I noticed that when I was cutting the cpvc with a ratchet type cutter , it would snap and not cut. It seems to be dried out.
Yeah.. use a hack daw Jack.
Good luck with that hacksaw jack… what u think is gonna happen when you hold it in one hand and saw it with some pressure? It will crack somewhere most likely.
@@nolantanaka565 nah it's definitely doable. Easier though is a small, low powered sawzall with a metal blade.
@@nolantanaka565 have you ever cut wood trim lol
I like to use a hacksaw blade alone without a handle attached. Especially for tight corners. But I CUT ON THE PULL instead of cutting like most on the push which sometimes causes saw blade to bind up.
Canada(chinada) here. We only allow cpvc for hvac drainage because hvac condensate is acidic.
I like how she points at a PVC trap while condemning the junk CPVC. there is a notable difference there.
I've seen this stuff go bad in a couple of years. I changed it out 3 times till we used different pipe!
Most reporters have no clue about what they are talking about, and that shows in this report.
Only in dominican republic and in other tropical countries they use pvc cpvc and polipropaine pipes polipropane pipes work only with thermofusion it does not require pvc cement
Using PEX is the only way to go and with the brass fittings and use the cinch bands they hold all the way around
I like how she said you won’t have to go through your insurance company if you have a loss with PECS. Unfortunately she is wrong, you still have to file a claim with your insurance. The only difference is that you will have to have your insurance company subrogate against the pipe manufacturer.
I still prefer copper. It's more time consuming to install, but done right, it'll outlast plastic and pex put together.
2:14 This is not CPVC...it's PVC (sch-40). And this is a non-pressured drain line...NOT a supply line.
I noticed that also. 😂
Listen to a reported and not a "professional" plumber "who are the people who know best".
Glade you all made a distinction between CPVC and PEX piping. PEX is sometimes referred too as PVC but it is way thicker and much stronger then cooper pipes.
That’s weird we can use those pipes in houses or condos in Hawaii. Only for lawn irrigation
I find it sad that the reporters did not distinguish between CPVC and what I know as just PVC. How many homeowners are going to look under their sinks, see some plastic and go running and screaming to sell their house when it may not have any CPVC in it at all...
I can’t count the number of copper lines I have replaced with pinhole leaks in them.
what is shown is improper installation joint must be cleaned before solvent applied , i had done my previous house some 50 years ago and not one leak
are you talking about pressurized main water or just the non pressurized sewerage and drainage ? in australia we use pex when its pressurized
She's talking about the pressurized water pipes
After watching this l located some cpvc l had left over from 16 years ago and l made a number of cuts through it with the hand held shears designed for that job. All of the pieces were just as soft and easily cut as when it was new. Point being, it's probably not age that degrades this material but rather the heat from the hot water this pipe was designed to carry.
It's very hit-and-miss. I tore out some CPVC a neighbor had in a detached laundry room that started to spray. On one single section of pipe, some parts of it were brittle and cracked/shattered when I tried to cut it, other parts cut clean like it was new. Was very interesting to see.
@@SuperVeeZee Interesting. Some inconsistency at the factory then. Could be just one manufacturer having the problem then.
35 years ago I built a house with CPVC & PCV & I have not had 1 problem !!! Good pipe Install it right !!!
The only CPVC pipe in my home is hooked to the pressure releif valve on my water heater.
Supply lines are copper.
As a plumber in Florida the biggest issue I run into is people turning the heat up to high on their water heaters
So true I have only had leaks on the hot side.
Since then I keep my water heater lower.
@@jefflemieux8834 In fact that is the only issue people have found over time with CPVC and if it shows up it is usually on lines where there is a hot water circulation pumps. Of course with PEX, it gets brittle with chlorine which is used everywhere that has municipal water. People try to compare PEX longevity when PEX hasn't been around long enough compared to CPVC, Copper, and Galvanized to prove anything of the sort.
Exactly. Time is what proves the ups and downs of any given material.
@@skt4711 True, but with PEX A and expansion fittings, we don't have the chance of erosive corrosion that we do with copper, when we are relying on ME to remember to ream the inside of each cut, because I won't, and there WILL be an erosive corrosion failure.
And Galvie is absolutely worthless if it touches dirt or concrete.
Also, copper, Galvie, and either of the PVC's, C- or not, are GUARANTEED to break when frozen.
As a plumber, I’ve come across PEX joints that have pulled themselves apart causing crap ton of damage… For my own house it is copper and properly soldered joints ONLY…
I installed a ton of cpvc pipe in the late 90’s and early 2000’s .
I had copper pipes leak in a home that was around 10 years old. Nothing is going to last forever
Copper is the way to go, a good solder joint will last 100 years or more.
Look up copper pipe issue in Miramar Fl,
@@sonacphotos i just seen a video on pex a and why its failing in city water situations it has something to do with breakpoint chlorination the chloramine in the water system is chemically melting the pipes in 7 years look it up integrity repiping llc
@@CJ-ui9oq will do
@@sonacphotos yeah like i said in a well water situation ive seen l copper be thinner then even dwv i would use pex b
Cpvc, in my experience an installer should be certified by the manufacturer of it's fittings. Specialized knowledge is needed to understand cpvc's cure time for new installations. How it reacts to temperature changes with regard to shrink/expansion. Is recessed lighting installed to close to it? Have alterations been made to the structure since it was installed? Was it installed beneath the insulation in the attic areas? I do appreciate PEX for it's robust ability to better endure risks of freezing.
That drain pipe she had her hand on is tubular plastic,NOT,CPVC! I had to pipe my house with cpvc.The spring water was eating up the copper.I could have used L type copper(heavier) but I didn"t know that at the time.I re piped my house 30 years ago,don"t think pex was around yet.Anyway,never had a problem altho,that"s with spring water,55 psi max. and the house is in NJ. Can easily be repaired with sharkbite fittings.
PEX is the correct answer.
I know of many houses in the east coast of the US that have been piped with CPVC and they have no issues, furthermore many plumbing contactors there also use CPVC, anyone know why if the pipe is so bad?
It's cheap to install
@@troylitle3116 oh ok thanks
Soldered copper is the only way. Make sure your contractor’s agreement indicates that or find one who only does copper that soldered on.
Cpvc is a hot water line and people tend to turn their water heater temperature setting above 140 degrees causing excessive strain on the pipe!
You must use the same primer on the cpvc as you use on the pvc….! Then you have to use the orange colored cpvc cement…! You will have no leak problems at the joints if you follow these simple procedures..! All pvc and cpvc joints are also meant to be bottomed out as well….!! Not close…. not very close but bottomed out… that’s why this product is so affordable… so you can redo it if it’s not quite right…. If your are going to diy.. diy right the first time
So great, I have this inside my walls. Awesome knowing I cant rip them out without causing a major catastrophe to begin with. Guess Ill wait for a leak.
i worked at marriot hotel built in 2015 ..all cpvc ...i could not even turn a shut off when i needed to do a repair....its approved but i never use it...
Erysipelas really seems to know the topic she’s talking about. She keeps touching the drain pipe as the example.
News models have no clue but for what is on the script to read.
Oh, let's start with sharkbite next video.
shouldn't that stuff be used only for irrigation?
Cpvc plumbing does get brittle over time but if it is not subjected to extreme cold or heat nothing will happen. The lady with the split pipe that went up in the attic and was close to the roof was a failed installation. No plumbing should be that close to the roof not even copper.
10 years of pipe... Time to rewrite the Dam Code....Somebody in Government must own a share in that Company ....
Cpvc is great long lasting when behind a wall away from sun, 30 plus years and my moms home is still working perfectly, this is a install issue, possibly wrong glue used or mix n match brands, but its a great product, not better than pex a or b
I use Copper when possible. Copper is king in my book. :)
its wild to me that cpvc is still sold today but pb isnt and we only tried two fitting systems for each and cpvc is arguably worse
Best thing to do is get a leak detection system to minimize damage.
In India the Plumbing in my Dad's rental property is about 80 yrs old. No leak in 80 yrs. I think in USA they don't care for quality. Yes India is not a rich country. But I have never heard of any home in India have water leaks. Yes toilet tanks need minor changes like replacing worn parts.
In USA everything is done fast. My friend bought 60 yr old home in Kansas for 45 k. That house had no problems but a 600k home today has a lot of problems.
Very poor work ethics in America. Need to make strict laws protecting consumer.
Yep they don't have any pride in their trades anymore. Sad but true. No quality control whatsoever!
So how about when copper and any other water line fails? Pex fails at the joints too and it's definitely going to be buried. Or at least kept from light
What kind of pipes are behind your walls
Nothing better than PEX
Cpvc is fine for the run from your t&p valve on your water heater, because it shouldn't really ever have water in it, unless the t&p valve or expansion tank fails. For the water lines in your home NO WAY
Just had one bust in a ceiling in Florida. True
Nothing is gonna last forever but for CPVC it's been around over 60 years + Longer than I have been a plumber. True it does get brittle and when it freezes when it's brittle it'll split to one joint to the other. True when it gets brittle it's much more vulnerable. But we have no idea what pex is gonna be after 60 years + too it might be worse. My experience over the years with plastic all gets vulnerable in time. It's a nature of plastic. She mentioned 25 years warranty for pecks that's not completely true. Some has lowered it down to 10 years. There's a lot of different brands of pecks out there if you use a different brand fitting then the pipe is that will lower your warranty also. Lot of plumbers don't even know that. I've heard as low as one year Warranty
I'm living in a house built in 1956 with galvanized pipes. The only pipe that's gone bad is the underground water service from the meter to the house. I replaced that with sch 40 PVC. Everything else is good!
Isn't galvanized steel essentially poisonous to humans?
If you weld or get it hot the fumes are harmful.
No it’s not harmful (only for the guy doing the actual galvanizing is it harmful) and as a plus, you will NEVER have an iron deficiency in your diet if you have galvanized piping !! (The stuff rusts like crazy on the inside)
Galvanized pipe rusts from the inside out, eventually there will be leaks! It can look good on the outside but much different on the inside! I've seen galvanized pipe rust inside til the waterfowl was almost stopped from rust buildup! It happens slowly and most people don't notice it til its gets bad! People seems to be the go to now, time will tell what the negatives of it are! Just like the old Quest pipe (Grey polybeautelyne) it's problems we're mostly the fittings!
@@scott1395 Dad built our home in 1950. Back then everything was pretty much galvanized. With some remodeling in the 1980s, everything was changed to copper. Since copper prices have gotten steep, PEX is easy to use but you still need the correct pex for applications.
That's the key word dictating your decision. Large corporations are no different than government. They operate in the same manner. Policies that strip you from your rights. Dictating what rights you have.
Never knew Joe the exotic tiger had a plumber brother 😳
PEX will last a lot longer than 25 years, won't break from freezing, simple to install... Or trusty copper.... Remodeling on surface , Composite.
Ask the guys involved in the countless PEX lawsuits how well that pipe is going… the joints in PEX can and will pull apart… just go with copper… I’ve done remodels on houses with 50 year old copper and the stuff is still good as new..
Someone tag these reporters on shark bite horror stories
I’m a plumber in South Carolina we use pex now the cpvc is trash same as the polybutylene pipe they had all the trouble with some years back I refuse to use cpvc on any application I’ve seen so many breaks an leaks especially in winter time which I’m the south is not that bad but a few days of below freezing n a row if you have cpvc pipe in your house that the cold air can get to it will bust please do not use or let anyone tell you this pipe is good and if you have it in your home get ride of it asap cost you less now to repipe then it will to repair the water damage it’s gonna cause when you’re on vacation one week an it bust in you
It's for hot water pipes. Regular PVC isn't good to higher temperature. This report has so much wrong information it's a crime. Cpvc is not less expensive, it's actually more expensive. And it's only different quality is the extra chlorine in the PVC that makes it less rigid and more durable under higher temperature.
Just like most tv news these days, it's useless
Yeah. Pex? Seems almost identical to the poly buel pipe that came out 30ish years ago that got banned about 20 years ago. If a plumber encounters poly buel pipe leaks they have to replace everything from the leak all the way back to where the water comes into the house. The pipe itself seemed to be fine but the connections would leak if you just lightly bumped the pipes. Pex looks exactly the same to me. The best option still seems to be copper with lead free soldering. But $$$ and time and fire risks during repairs...
I built my own home 45yrs ago, this is what I have. No problems.
If 40% of their re-pipes are CPVC....what kind of pipe are the other 60% ???
I saw this in my house and instantly I thought it was crap. I’m no professional and I could easily figure that out.
Every pipe has issues, some problems depend on your water. I would say copper is the best, but my neighbor has a well and the water eats copper in no time. I have city water and have the original copper from 1970 and it has not had any problems, although some of the shut off valves need to be replaced. In another house I own, it was galvanized pipe, it became so clogged from rust after 50 years I replaced it with cpvc, 15 years later replacing the water heater, the pipe was so brittle, I was afraid to keep using it. Every since then, I have used pex B, and so far, no problems. Some will say pex A is better, in some ways it can be, but it leaches more chemicals into your water, the fittings are much more expensive and the expansion tool is very expensive. And like many others have said about the report, the pipe she pointed to under the sink is pvc, not cpvc, so have someone that knows what they are talking about check your story before putting it out!
Plastic Leaching:
Plastic pipe, fittings, and the chemical solvents and adhesives used to bond and seal them all use complex chemical blends, hydrocarbons and other additives. These substances leach from pipe walls over time, especially in plumbing exposed to heat or hot water.
Where would you be without Chemicals!
The reporter was smart, very careful with her word choice.