I've been riding competitively since 1977. Gotta say the 80s was the best. So many good riders and cycling exploded in popularity world wide back then too.
@@johnandrews3568 I started racing in 1980, right when LeMond was heading to the pro peloton in Europe, so yeah, the 80s were hot. Plus I am only 4 days older than Greg, so it was sort of a "my generation" thing too.
As an American that got into cycling in 1986, these two were it. I was given the book “Kelly” by David Walsh for Christmas in 1986. The chapter “Nightmares” still stands out. I can’t really say anything more about the 1989 Tour that hasn’t already been said.
To all those who say Sean couldn’t get a word in edgewise…back in the day, he was widely known as a recalcitrant rider…one who was known to answer a question during a radio interview with a nod! So, to those of us who were fans back then, it is quite funny to think of him being “denied” the chance to speak!
We in belgium had also a rider who won EVERY race from the youth cathegories. He won 30 of the 30 races. And on his 18 birthyear they have given him a pro contract. And from his 18 year old he also won pro races! even bigger pro races ! ! ! And now he is 1 of the 2 who the most close to pogacar. Even his fall in that ravine couldend stop him from winning more than 60 pro races on the age of 23. Do you know who ? ? Remco Evenepoel ! together with Vingegaard the 2 best challangers for pogacar.... the numbers 2 and 3 of the world.
Fabulous Gruppetto! Legend = Spazz... if we're talking GLM! Hilarious to watch Sean Kelly trying to figure out how to get a word in edge-wise for the first half. Second half was glorious - GLM and SK leaning into each other, laughing, sharing stories. No apologies for going off-script (sorry Rob!). Please share the 6-hour Part Two from the pub. Cheers!
We have to get Greg & Sean back together on a commentary team, pure magic. C'mon Discovery +/ Eurosport, forget past issues, these two are commentary gold.
I love Lemond but he spent the whole first five minutes to just say what can be summed up as “they have the same power as we had but are lighter now”. Instead he said 100 half finished sentences and couldn’t even get to that point.
Greg is a nightmare… he can’t stop interrupting, but then simultaneously can’t get the words out!!!! This is killing me!!! Pause and organize your thoughts before speaking Greg, damnnnnn..
In terms of doping and all the haters here. You need to understand: doping leveled the playingfield not the other way around. In todays era freaks of nature stick out way more because other „medicore“ riders cannot even out their disadvantage with drugs so easily. So its totally normal, that there are outliers like pog or jonas. A talented genetic freak does not get that much better with doping it is the „medicore“ ones that become better.
One of the biggest differences is that guys can ride a 30 or even a 34, and with a 39 on the front. Back in the day, you rode a 42/25, maybe a 27, so you just needed more muscle to grind gears like that. Look at the thigh size difference!
I would like to hear some S. Kelly. The moderator needs to control the situation. Greg can go on and on. He don't mean too ists' up to the moderator!!!
Sean mentioned that he that pogi goes downhill faster... He handles a bike better than anyone I've ever watched. I have to think that that level of smoothness and skill must translate to efficiency.
Poor Rob, having to referee the two giants of cycling! But on the other hand, as I said on Insta, so well deserved for the award, absolutely the best, and considering some excellent colleagues you work with Rob, that's a big call. More next year!
Tadej recognised his talent very early on thanks to great support, and that recognition with his hard work continues to give him the hunger to use that talent to win, everything. Cav's new '24 TdF stage wins record is now just a higher bar to tempt Tadej to take it, by '27 or '28?
Pog did promise Cav that he wouldn't break his record, but I'm sure Cav will be gracious enough to give him a pass when the time comes; it is less a matter of whether Pog will do it, but rather how soon he will do it and by how much.
@@Blog4Justice I just watched that Cav/Pog 'encounter'. By the look on Cav's face & his 'grab' of Pog's jaw, he already knows that Pog likely will. After all, Cav was hungry enough to keep trying for that record & as we all know, Pog is the hungriest of the lot. Pog didn't "promise" either, he just agreed, "I won't" & "don't worry". We'll just have to keep watching to find out. Pog only needs a few more monuments, perhaps 3 more rainbows, 2 or 3 more yellow & 1 red jersey to almost run out of challenges. Come on '25! Maybe someone should tell Pog that a Tour/Vuelta double, followed by a Giro/Tour double, 4 in a row hasn't been done before, to give him another challenge? 🤔
@@davidlilja9180 Whatever the exact form of wording, it sounded very much like a promise to me. As for the rest, I think Pog has at least five or six or prime ('21-'23 standard or better) seasons ahead. He can just keep on setting his own challenges. The next three WCs are all up for grabs, and I think he will at least double his current tally of monuments (in fact, I think he could win three next season alone). It's going to be epic!
BTW it took almost 10 minits before Kelly could say sommething, and when kelly was talking greg interrupted every time... Kelly was waiting like a gentlemen before he could say sommething ! Kelly had a cariere lots of pro cyclist only can dream of ! ! ! He was a big man in his times exspecialy the 1 day races where we didnt see Greg verry ofthen .
Rob ?? Sorry first to to watch. Hopefully you will learn to interview two people better and not let people like Greg bully the interview. Kelly couldn't get a ward in 😢😢😢😢😢😢
I've often thought Rob is a bit too intense. I'm also often sceptical of the off the charts rides we're seeing over the last few years, but this is a really well balanced interview. I firmly believe, Stephen Roche was seriously a victim iof cynical, profiteering journalism Roche 100 percent was and is thee greatest athlete ever to come out of Ireland. Hands down. No question.
I think Pogi just enjoys racing- he doesn't seem to mind if it's TdF or a 1.Pro/1.1 he wants to have fun out there and race 😂 he'll even sprint against Politt to 38th place on a stage for fun. Jonas is more measured in both how he races and his 'hunger' to win, they both want to win the tour de france, and will commit to that, but Pogi also wants to beat Politt in the sprint to the line 😂 whereas Jonas I'd imagine is happy to get to the finish line safely on a flat stage and the last thing he wants to do is mess about with sprints. Pogi's said that he gets bored on 'dull' days and seems to enjoy chaotic stages while most GC riders enjoy having a less stressful day- see Giro this year where Pogi had a great time going off the front with a few k to go with Honore and Thomas, Thomas said something like 'Alright son, you’ve had your fun. Let’s just have a nice quiet day tomorrow?' So I think Pogi is hungrier to win in general- but Jonas if anything is more committed to putting 100% of his effort into TdF- Pogi's said he does too many stupid attacks while Jonas manages to race sensibly, fully commited to the one goal (winning tour GC). For all that everyone's talking about how great Pogi is this year the two previous years he's had a constant stream of 'why are you wasting your energy, you should focus more on the overall and not on racing every day' he's not changed, because that's how he races. Pogi would be very bored if he was racing as controlled as Ving does, and Ving would be stressed out if he was trying to race the way Pogi does. Ving is excellent at following a plan, while we know that Pogi can't even follow his own plan 😂(Adam Yates said that after one of his attacks in le tour- it was supposed to be a conservative play it safe stage but Pogi attacked). Pogi is pure racer, he reads the race situation and if he feels like it's a good time to attack he will, he's impulsive so can be tempted into overdoing it, but he's always reading the race situation so he tends to pick the perfect spot to attack and is rarely out of position. Ving is much more strategic, he makes the plan with the team and then follows it, he won't make stupid attacks, but he's also less able to improvise to the race situation on the road. It's what makes them a great duo to watch, they're both brilliant riders but very very different riders and are trying to force the race into the type of race they want. Pogi's compared pro racing to racing with your mates as a kid which probably helps him deal with the enormity of the races he's won, and maybe why he doesn't seem that upset for himself when he doesn't win.
LeMond was far from alone for outing Armstrong for doping, the latter which there's evidence of and Armstrong's belated admission. Where's the evidence of Pogacar doping?
@phillippitts6294 If "they" knew all along, not sure how LeMond outed Armstrong. Regarding Pog, he changed his trainer/coach last year. Guilt by association with his former trainer who many years ago was associated with doping isn't evidence that Pog doped at least in 2024.
Come on Greg.... you want to say that a rider that is FASTER (a lot faster too) than Pantani, Armstrong and others is clean? Really? We know the Armstrong generation was doped with a drug that makes riders at least10-15% (and probably more than that if we knew EVERYTHING they were taking) and now we have a clean rider that made up that 10-15% and went far beyond it. That makes NO sense. I call BS. Not to mention the weight of the riders. It is hardly natural riders can sacrifice muscle and still ride so fast.
Greg’s ego is so fragile. He doesn’t get the respect he deserves as a champion because he constantly disrespects everyone else in the sport to try and make himself sound better.
Can Lemond get out a sentence clearly and why interrupt Kelly? There is a reason Lemond is not commentating on TV. Maybe the lead pellets still lodged in him are affecting his brain.
I'm surprised Greg didn't accuse anyone of having motors. That's his usual go to. The guys of today's era would drop him with ease. He just seems like a bitter old man that likes to hear himself talk in every interview I listen to.
Let me explain for anyone who doesn’t understand what Lemond is talking about…. :) He thinks that what they’re asking him to comment on is: whether or not Pogacar is cheating!!?? Since according to him, it was he who figured out that Lance was cheating and now he must be authority on this subject. He went on to explain why Pog and Jonas are not cheating… according to him they are lighter than him which is why they are doing better. He is also saying the overall level of competition is higher now. He also insinuated that if there was an “ unbelievable” performance it was Jonas comeback from injury. It’s really hard to watch this. I feel bad for the guy. We have to respect him but it would be nice if he just took a step back and relaxed.
Faster than Lance, Climbs better than Lance, Wins by much bigger margins than Lance, and wins Giro and TdF in one season..seems clean to me. What are you smoking?
@ he is better athlete than Lance. My kid at 12 years old is a better runner than Lance at 16. Lance started using growth hormone at 14-16. You want any other details about the shitty athlete Lance Armstrong?? I know his history in detail. But let me get serious, Lance was a 75kg rider, Tadej is 65kg rider, and has higher VO2 max than Lance.
I love Greg's technical analysis but sorry, don't believe Pogacar is racing clean because Lance as much as Greg denigrates him was doped to the gills and Pogacar is blowing away his records. Just don't believe him....or Vingegaard.
Sorry guys, great video but I need to apologise for my wife and friend in the background at the start of the video and that we own the image rights if you want to use them again for any media video 😂
LeMond thinks anybody who could beat him is drugged ? He chose guns over cycling ? He got fat and got... dropped ! He's licking his chops that they find Pog dirty ? There's no cycling group that takes LeMond seriously? His mission was to bring down Lance Armstrong ! Cause Lance became the new American cycling hero! Greg went absolutely mad ! When Lance won 3 ! 4, 5, to this day Grag has never gotten over that ! You hear the excuses from him here ! Greg is pre index shifting He's still trying to find his gear ? He's a quill stem in a land of carbon handlebars !
Greg Lemond loves to talk about sports science but he spouts the same old nonsense about body fat %. There is no way he or the peleton today are at 3-4%. This level is contest ready Mr Olympia bodybuilding which they achieve only by being juiced to the gills, and dieting in misery for 6-12 weeks. They hold this for one night. If you look at the riders they don’t have the same appearance. On the YT doc on Moviestar Marc Soler was at about 15% in the bus shots with no shirt on. Don’t. E confuse carrying virtually no upper body muscle with having 3-4% body fat. They look like a bag of bones and there are some spectacular shots of vascular legs on the internet but this is not the same either. He also bangs on about hematocrit like it’s this massive needle mover. I am a lifetime natural 63 year old with a very low FTP but my natural hematocrit is 50/55%. Checked every 6 months
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Indurain era
I've been riding competitively since 1977. Gotta say the 80s was the best. So many good riders and cycling exploded in popularity world wide back then too.
@@johnandrews3568 I started racing in 1980, right when LeMond was heading to the pro peloton in Europe, so yeah, the 80s were hot. Plus I am only 4 days older than Greg, so it was sort of a "my generation" thing too.
I know this won't be popular with Mr. Lemond but the Lance era. It got me into cycling!
I like the pneumatic tyre era the most.
Seeing these two legends laughing together is worth the watch.
Not just two, but three legends!!! Congrats Rob and thanks for bringing more and more amazing content to us fans. Love from the US.
Rob Hatch getting the best commentator prize is so not surprising as Tadej Pogačar getting the best cyclist prize. Well deserved! Congratulations!
Love seeing these two bantering about the old days. Great insights.
As an American that got into cycling in 1986, these two were it. I was given the book “Kelly” by David Walsh for Christmas in 1986. The chapter “Nightmares” still stands out. I can’t really say anything more about the 1989 Tour that hasn’t already been said.
Poor Sean can't get a word in edgewise.
Greg has ADHD. He and Sean have been very close friends for decades.
Brilliant, legends. 😃👍
He’s a man of few words anyway, as opposed to Greg who is a little ADHD. Great to see him back after his illness.
@@jimr513666 Kelly was the same in his racing days, lets his legs do the talking 🦵🚲🦵
@@banjo7127 Yes, Greg has certainly had some challenges in life.
Congratulations Rob for all you do!!
Good to see Greg enthusiastic about cycling again ....
He looks like he's lost weight, too.
Congrats Rob on your award. Well deserved. 🎉
To all those who say Sean couldn’t get a word in edgewise…back in the day, he was widely known as a recalcitrant rider…one who was known to answer a question during a radio interview with a nod! So, to those of us who were fans back then, it is quite funny to think of him being “denied” the chance to speak!
"he was widely known as a recalcitrant rider" Recalcitrant? I think the word you were perhaps looking for in this context is 'reticent'. 🙂
@ Ha ha ha 🤦. Yes..I think you are right! Whoops! Reticent is exactly what I meant…I don’t think anyone ever had a problem with Sean’s attitude!
Greatto see Rob receive this award. His commentary is without peers.
Kelly was my Hero and Still is.
Love these guys.
Congratulations Rob 😀👏👏
We in belgium had also a rider who won EVERY race from the youth cathegories. He won 30 of the 30 races. And on his 18 birthyear they have given him a pro contract. And from his 18 year old he also won pro races! even bigger pro races ! ! ! And now he is 1 of the 2 who the most close to pogacar. Even his fall in that ravine couldend stop him from winning more than 60 pro races on the age of 23. Do you know who ? ? Remco Evenepoel ! together with Vingegaard the 2 best challangers for pogacar.... the numbers 2 and 3 of the world.
I wish Greg would let Sean speak.
Fabulous Gruppetto! Legend = Spazz... if we're talking GLM! Hilarious to watch Sean Kelly trying to figure out how to get a word in edge-wise for the first half. Second half was glorious - GLM and SK leaning into each other, laughing, sharing stories. No apologies for going off-script (sorry Rob!). Please share the 6-hour Part Two from the pub. Cheers!
Tremendous show. Happy New Year to you all!
We have to get Greg & Sean back together on a commentary team, pure magic. C'mon Discovery +/ Eurosport, forget past issues, these two are commentary gold.
I love Lemond but he spent the whole first five minutes to just say what can be summed up as “they have the same power as we had but are lighter now”. Instead he said 100 half finished sentences and couldn’t even get to that point.
ADHD at work, sadly
He’s brain is fried from his alcoholism when he was younger.
@@johnandrews3568 lol- I was just going to say that. And I sure can relate:)
Greg is a nightmare… he can’t stop interrupting, but then simultaneously can’t get the words out!!!! This is killing me!!! Pause and organize your thoughts before speaking Greg, damnnnnn..
Was Lemonds mic broken or something, or does he always cut off his sentences halfway through the last word???
In terms of doping and all the haters here. You need to understand: doping leveled the playingfield not the other way around. In todays era freaks of nature stick out way more because other „medicore“ riders cannot even out their disadvantage with drugs so easily. So its totally normal, that there are outliers like pog or jonas. A talented genetic freak does not get that much better with doping it is the „medicore“ ones that become better.
finally someone who understands
Normally people with bigger talent also gets the same or more increase doing doping . So it's the same in the end .
Rouleur......next year just pop the 3 lads on a Sofa and let them chat away....pure class and fabulous insight !
Why I really admire greg jeez he loves the sound of his own voice 😅😅.
LeMond doesn't give anyone any credit and he loves his own voice!
Great interview! Odd choice for the “king of classics” palmarès description haha.
Let the legend sitting next to you speak Lemond, we know your opinion, you repeated it several times
My Two cycling Gods, Greg is an interviewers dream, full of fact and theory.
One of the biggest differences is that guys can ride a 30 or even a 34, and with a 39 on the front. Back in the day, you rode a 42/25, maybe a 27, so you just needed more muscle to grind gears like that. Look at the thigh size difference!
Both legends but Lemond continually talking over Kelly is just rude.
Kelly....one of the all time greats.
Greg is 100% correct,all the riders are hungry.You can't dismiss the hunger of other riders.
Lemond talks like Tadej races
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😂😂😂😂
Nice to see the two legends looking so well, though it would be fair to say than Sean has aged a bit better than Greg !😀
A LOT better. Maybe Greg's accelerated aging may be due to the Lead from the shooting accident.
Great energy in this video guys, cheers!!!
I would like to hear some S. Kelly. The moderator needs to control the situation. Greg can go on and on. He don't mean too ists' up to the moderator!!!
12:22 Brutal put-down from Sean Kelly “Where did you lose the hunger?” 😂
Kelly's a right laugh. Totally pulling Lemond's chain 👌
I had to stop watching this. Greg and Sean, along with Hinault, are my favorite riders of all time. But Greg won't shut up!
Sean mentioned that he that pogi goes downhill faster... He handles a bike better than anyone I've ever watched. I have to think that that level of smoothness and skill must translate to efficiency.
Wanted to hear Sean kelly 😢
Poor Rob, having to referee the two giants of cycling! But on the other hand, as I said on Insta, so well deserved for the award, absolutely the best, and considering some excellent colleagues you work with Rob, that's a big call. More next year!
Tadej recognised his talent very early on thanks to great support, and that recognition with his hard work continues to give him the hunger to use that talent to win, everything.
Cav's new '24 TdF stage wins record is now just a higher bar to tempt Tadej to take it, by '27 or '28?
Pog did promise Cav that he wouldn't break his record, but I'm sure Cav will be gracious enough to give him a pass when the time comes; it is less a matter of whether Pog will do it, but rather how soon he will do it and by how much.
@@Blog4Justice I just watched that Cav/Pog 'encounter'. By the look on Cav's face & his 'grab' of Pog's jaw, he already knows that Pog likely will. After all, Cav was hungry enough to keep trying for that record & as we all know, Pog is the hungriest of the lot. Pog didn't "promise" either, he just agreed, "I won't" & "don't worry".
We'll just have to keep watching to find out.
Pog only needs a few more monuments, perhaps 3 more rainbows, 2 or 3 more yellow & 1 red jersey to almost run out of challenges. Come on '25!
Maybe someone should tell Pog that a Tour/Vuelta double, followed by a Giro/Tour double, 4 in a row hasn't been done before, to give him another challenge?
🤔
@@davidlilja9180 Whatever the exact form of wording, it sounded very much like a promise to me. As for the rest, I think Pog has at least five or six or prime ('21-'23 standard or better) seasons ahead. He can just keep on setting his own challenges. The next three WCs are all up for grabs, and I think he will at least double his current tally of monuments (in fact, I think he could win three next season alone). It's going to be epic!
I love you Greg, but you need to have a conversation!
Greg was my 1st ever idol but god he's changed his tune
So Greg, what did you have for breakfast?
Greg: So I’ve done some calculations and based on the body fat of riders back in my day an… 🙄
BTW it took almost 10 minits before Kelly could say sommething, and when kelly was talking greg interrupted every time... Kelly was waiting like a gentlemen before he could say sommething ! Kelly had a cariere lots of pro cyclist only can dream of ! ! ! He was a big man in his times exspecialy the 1 day races where we didnt see Greg verry ofthen .
Pretty sure, as he's a commentator in the sport, he is refraining from commenting on the subject of suspected doping.
@@SurpriseMeJT What this got to do with sean kelly , sorry dont understand it my friend. You mean the commentator suspects pogacar of doping ???
A clean rider getting interviewed and a doper Kelly
The competitiveness of these 2 😂😂😂
2 legends
Lemond comes off as an era gone by, mad that he’s no longer relevant. He’s so argumentative
Anyone who's retired is no longer "relevant", by definition.
It’s difficult to see Greg in such cognitive decline. God bless him. I counted, he started 97 sentences and completed 3.
Greg, you look great!
Greg looks ok. Sean looks great! 😂
Ah Brilliant, my 2 favourite legends slagging each other about their old days.
Is Greg speaking in code? 90% of his sentences are gibberish!
Good to see two great friends and cycling legends chewing the fat.
Pogi in the last two tours he lost made mistakes that costed him. He had a wrist fracture as well.
Geez Greg. Just try to finish a sentence!!!
Would’ve been nice if Lemond would’ve shut the hell up and let Kelly talk. When Kelly WAS talking, Lemond kept interrupting him. Very annoying.
BOOM!!!
He is right about them being like adolescents
Greg LeMond - I can do that! 😂
Greg, you just zalk too much!! Common...
Give the man a pulpit. Lemond takes forever to say nothing of importance.
Rob ?? Sorry first to to watch. Hopefully you will learn to interview two people better and not let people like Greg bully the interview. Kelly couldn't get a ward in 😢😢😢😢😢😢
I've often thought Rob is a bit too intense. I'm also often sceptical of the off the charts rides we're seeing over the last few years, but this is a really well balanced interview.
I firmly believe, Stephen Roche was seriously a victim iof cynical, profiteering journalism Roche 100 percent was and is thee greatest athlete ever to come out of Ireland. Hands down. No question.
What do you mean by your comments on Roche?
I think Paul O Donovan and Katie Taylor might have something to say about Irelands greatest athlete
@@RaymondMurphy-yh4qj lemond would have won 87 and 88 TDFs had he not been shot
Greg Lemond, although he clearly knows his stuff, is as dull as dishwater. Let your host and other guests speak too!
I think Pogi just enjoys racing- he doesn't seem to mind if it's TdF or a 1.Pro/1.1 he wants to have fun out there and race 😂 he'll even sprint against Politt to 38th place on a stage for fun. Jonas is more measured in both how he races and his 'hunger' to win, they both want to win the tour de france, and will commit to that, but Pogi also wants to beat Politt in the sprint to the line 😂 whereas Jonas I'd imagine is happy to get to the finish line safely on a flat stage and the last thing he wants to do is mess about with sprints. Pogi's said that he gets bored on 'dull' days and seems to enjoy chaotic stages while most GC riders enjoy having a less stressful day- see Giro this year where Pogi had a great time going off the front with a few k to go with Honore and Thomas, Thomas said something like 'Alright son, you’ve had your fun. Let’s just have a nice quiet day tomorrow?'
So I think Pogi is hungrier to win in general- but Jonas if anything is more committed to putting 100% of his effort into TdF- Pogi's said he does too many stupid attacks while Jonas manages to race sensibly, fully commited to the one goal (winning tour GC).
For all that everyone's talking about how great Pogi is this year the two previous years he's had a constant stream of 'why are you wasting your energy, you should focus more on the overall and not on racing every day' he's not changed, because that's how he races.
Pogi would be very bored if he was racing as controlled as Ving does, and Ving would be stressed out if he was trying to race the way Pogi does. Ving is excellent at following a plan, while we know that Pogi can't even follow his own plan 😂(Adam Yates said that after one of his attacks in le tour- it was supposed to be a conservative play it safe stage but Pogi attacked).
Pogi is pure racer, he reads the race situation and if he feels like it's a good time to attack he will, he's impulsive so can be tempted into overdoing it, but he's always reading the race situation so he tends to pick the perfect spot to attack and is rarely out of position. Ving is much more strategic, he makes the plan with the team and then follows it, he won't make stupid attacks, but he's also less able to improvise to the race situation on the road.
It's what makes them a great duo to watch, they're both brilliant riders but very very different riders and are trying to force the race into the type of race they want.
Pogi's compared pro racing to racing with your mates as a kid which probably helps him deal with the enormity of the races he's won, and maybe why he doesn't seem that upset for himself when he doesn't win.
Greg lemond is a legend. But my god he is awful on TV.
Greg is always suspicious, he always throws some side comments
Funny how Greg outed Armstrong for doping , but thinks Tad is clean .
LeMond was far from alone for outing Armstrong for doping, the latter which there's evidence of and Armstrong's belated admission. Where's the evidence of Pogacar doping?
@ you realize that they knew all along what Lance was doing. And Pog has been hooked up with a doper trainer since he first raced in Italy
@phillippitts6294 If "they" knew all along, not sure how LeMond outed Armstrong. Regarding Pog, he changed his trainer/coach last year. Guilt by association with his former trainer who many years ago was associated with doping isn't evidence that Pog doped at least in 2024.
lemond is a good man. he is also almost impossible to listen to or understand. as a Yankee, I need and interpreter for my fellow country man.
thank god Lemond stopped speaking so Sean could make a clear concise statement.
As an American I would like to apologize for our representative in this video.
Come on Greg.... you want to say that a rider that is FASTER (a lot faster too) than Pantani, Armstrong and others is clean? Really? We know the Armstrong generation was doped with a drug that makes riders at least10-15% (and probably more than that if we knew EVERYTHING they were taking) and now we have a clean rider that made up that 10-15% and went far beyond it. That makes NO sense. I call BS. Not to mention the weight of the riders. It is hardly natural riders can sacrifice muscle and still ride so fast.
I wish I could understand wath LeMonde is trying to say, he sounds like he knows something, I cant' follow.
Greg is the Alex Jones of cycling.
Greg’s ego is so fragile. He doesn’t get the respect he deserves as a champion because he constantly disrespects everyone else in the sport to try and make himself sound better.
And the point of that was??
Anyone remember Norman Collier?
Why so much negativity around Greg LeMond ? He’s an interesting interview who’s still got his finger on the pulse.
Because he was cutting in on Sean all the time . Talking to much. But to be fair that was the interviewers fault. He didn't control it
Can Lemond get out a sentence clearly and why interrupt Kelly? There is a reason Lemond is not commentating on TV. Maybe the lead pellets still lodged in him are affecting his brain.
Greeeeat
I'm surprised Greg didn't accuse anyone of having motors. That's his usual go to. The guys of today's era would drop him with ease. He just seems like a bitter old man that likes to hear himself talk in every interview I listen to.
Let me explain for anyone who doesn’t understand what Lemond is talking about…. :)
He thinks that what they’re asking him to comment on is: whether or not Pogacar is cheating!!?? Since according to him, it was he who figured out that Lance was cheating and now he must be authority on this subject.
He went on to explain why Pog and Jonas are not cheating… according to him they are lighter than him which is why they are doing better. He is also saying the overall level of competition is higher now. He also insinuated that if there was an “ unbelievable” performance it was Jonas comeback from injury.
It’s really hard to watch this. I feel bad for the guy. We have to respect him but it would be nice if he just took a step back and relaxed.
i think he just misunderstood what he was being asked nothing too crazy
@@zakhassan965He turns everything to EPO, calculations, watts per kilo etc… he has made it his entire personality!
Faster than Lance, Climbs better than Lance, Wins by much bigger margins than Lance, and wins Giro and TdF in one season..seems clean to me. What are you smoking?
What a bunch of crap being thrown at the wall.
@ he is better athlete than Lance. My kid at 12 years old is a better runner than Lance at 16. Lance started using growth hormone at 14-16. You want any other details about the shitty athlete Lance Armstrong?? I know his history in detail.
But let me get serious, Lance was a 75kg rider, Tadej is 65kg rider, and has higher VO2 max than Lance.
I know Greg has the knowledge, he’s just so god awful at articulating it! He can’t seem to finish a sentence before moving to the next thought?
My God. Let someone else talk, Greg. Typically insufferable
He is doing best he can. He has ADHD. Sean has always been understanding and patient with Greg. They have been close friends for decades.
Painful from LeMond
lol dude was stroking out the whole time 😂
The guy is away with the fairies 😂
Calls out Froome and now claims it’s possible with the lastest crop 😂😂😂😂 unbelievable
@ the guy is a bit loopy
If you keep pointing at others all the time, it makes people wonder what you’re trying to hide.
Roche is a softy 😂😂😂😂😂
So they accept that these guys beating the EPO dopers is normal
I love Greg's technical analysis but sorry, don't believe Pogacar is racing clean because Lance as much as Greg denigrates him was doped to the gills and Pogacar is blowing away his records. Just don't believe him....or Vingegaard.
Sorry guys, great video but I need to apologise for my wife and friend in the background at the start of the video and that we own the image rights if you want to use them again for any media video 😂
LeMond thinks anybody who could beat him is drugged ? He chose guns over cycling ? He got fat and got... dropped !
He's licking his chops that they find Pog dirty ?
There's no cycling group that takes LeMond seriously? His mission was to bring down Lance Armstrong ! Cause Lance became the new American cycling hero!
Greg went absolutely mad ! When Lance won 3 ! 4, 5, to this day Grag has never gotten over that ! You hear the excuses from him here !
Greg is pre index shifting
He's still trying to find his gear ? He's a quill stem in a land of carbon handlebars !
Greg clueless as always. A hard watch
Maybe it’s you, not him.
@@prestachuck2867it was Greg for sure
@@prestachuck2867The guy can’t help himself, all he talks about is cheating.
@@prestachuck2867 read the rest of the comments bud
He’s as good as his chemist. For those that think he’s clean, I have no words for you.
Come on Greg…! You all cheated !! All pros in all sports do it…! Let’s enjoy for what it is…!!!
Greg Lemond loves to talk about sports science but he spouts the same old nonsense about body fat %. There is no way he or the peleton today are at 3-4%. This level is contest ready Mr Olympia bodybuilding which they achieve only by being juiced to the gills, and dieting in misery for 6-12 weeks. They hold this for one night. If you look at the riders they don’t have the same appearance. On the YT doc on Moviestar Marc Soler was at about 15% in the bus shots with no shirt on. Don’t. E confuse carrying virtually no upper body muscle with having 3-4% body fat. They look like a bag of bones and there are some spectacular shots of vascular legs on the internet but this is not the same either.
He also bangs on about hematocrit like it’s this massive needle mover. I am a lifetime natural 63 year old with a very low FTP but my natural hematocrit is 50/55%. Checked every 6 months
Please no more Lemond.
Oh dear, what did Greg’s coke have?