As an athletic 38 year old who injured both knees with deep NORDIC's and long lever copenhagen's and is approaching 40, this video resonates. I also continued to irritate them with the 'reverse nordic' shown at 1:07 given to me by my PT. I'd imagine there are outliers above 40 who this works for, but for people who aren't at 40 yet, be careful. Zach mentions glute work and hip work, I'm following the COREXCELL program, and it's been more helpful in 6 weeks than PT and the KOT for 6 months.
1:46 "they never do any knee over toes exercises" shows usain bolt doing knees over toes exercises LOL But yeah I mean for me personally I do Judo and I've seen plenty of people put their knee out, so that's why I'm doing a lot of KOT training, to strengthen my knee joint. I'm not really concerned with having freakish rapid strength output, I just want a bulletproof/stable knee that can maybe resist me landing in a position outside normal range of motion and not tear everything to bits.. Nobody ever busted their knee out by walking normally back and forth and doing a 20 degree squat. Injuries happen when you fall outside your normal ROM and don't have the strength in those positions to resist the force put on the joint.
You only get to the "extreme rom" with weights when you train extremely like ben.. but when you are starting out every one can't do what Ben does from the start so I think this video is a little bit unfair.
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Zach is a qualified PT that has coached a roster of NFL athletes, his stuff is well-researched, verifiable and he shows how/why he comes to his conclusions. Ben Patrick is a social media sensation and a Scientologist.
@@RossKempOnYourMum01NFL athletes get injured everyday. If you never load endrange positions and then enter it in a game enviornment youre at greater risk than someone else who has trained it to some degree. Im not saying this guys content is bad. He has some great content for the shoulder in a baseball related context, but there is clearly some kot beef going on here...
Kudos to you Zach for having the balls to question this social media frenzy that "knee over toes guy" has seemed to establish. I'm a chiropractor and am asked daily about some of these silly extreme videos. While some of his information is good, some is bad and just not necessary. He's got the good story, the good body, the kids, the dog, the mom...etc. He's got the perfect recipe for social media/RUclips success. "Scaling" a bad exercise is still a bad exercise (rounding the back with weights with the toes dorsiflexed to extreme levels..). I'm sure you'll get lots of negative comments/support for the ATG (used to be called arse to grass, now it's something different) on your channel, but thanks for having the guts to speak the truth.
Great points! There is a time and place for KOT. Kids just need to know stretching your ligaments and tendons to the extreme is not the answer for sports or long term longevity. The funny part is the more crazy leg flexibility i see kids have that come into my gym-the more i see them end up tearing the ACL, MCL, and having long term hip and knee issues.
Bold words from a chiropractor. I’ve dealt with several of you charlatans and know your opinion is worth less than nothing after month of weekly “adjustments” with 0 long term solutions.
well I don't see why people ask you, a chiropractor that. Seeing that chiropractic isn't even a real science.. So other than just being interested in the subject like alot of other normal people, what actual qualifications do you have in the area? Nobody ever got hurt doing low intensity movements within their range of motion lol
As someone who has done 12 weeks of the Zero program and is currently in Dense, there are a few gripes I have with this video. For one, even though Ben does them in his videos and there are benefits, the reverse nordics are not in Zero or Dense. Also, you say that these exercises do not need to be done with extreme weight and you're right. That's why the zero program is all bodyweight and you have to dominate the form at a pain free level before you can progress which is recommended that someone work in Zero for 12 weeks. Zero is definitely a program that even older people can do because it's all about working the foundation, not about adding weight. If someone can't work a certain exercise at a pain free level, they can drop the weight. The ATG split squat is not just a quad dominant exercise. It also works the glutes, the muscles and tendons around the ankle, and the hip flexors. Also, you talk about nordics in the video and how you don't have to do the crazy nordic stuff. But for one, the ATG program doesn't touch nordics until dense. In zero, you work on doing elephant walks which really work the hamstrings good. And in dense, you do exactly what you agreed on Usain Bolt doing in the video, which are eccentric nordics. Focusing on fighting your own bodyweight down. In the ATG program, Ben shows how a person should start, bodyweight first, then slowly progressing with weight. And it's not like the program only focuses on quad dominant exercises. The first 4 workouts in the Zero program are ones that focus on the calfs, the soleous, and the tibialis. There is also hamstring work that is done. As said before the ATG split squat does not only work the quads. I don't know how much research you did on the ATG program but it seems like you just picked a couple of things out and tried to target them when those few things do not make up the full essence of what thr ATG program is. It is NOT just quad dominant. You could've easily just said, do not add weight to these exercises until you can do these simple ones first and then work your way up but having a video title that attacks the Ben and calling certain exercises in the ATG program bs in the video seems contradictory since some of your other comments agree with the very things the ATG program teaches
If u really listened to the video, the whole point was athletes do not need to to do extreme quad exercises weighted or go much lower then 90 degrees to reach max speed and vertical. Pro sprinters and jumpers barely do (if any) quad dominant exercises-because it does not improve sports performance. And if they do they do not go past 90 degrees and they do not do more then one quad exercises per week. Secondly, i said athletes do not need to be able to do full nordics or full nordics with weight to reach max speed/vertical. I made both these points pretty clear in the video when explaining Usain. So yes, i think some of exercises are worth doing as in the zero program. But it is complete BS to go past those points in the dense program when your training athletes. You risk injury and it has nothing to do with improving speed/vert. Nor do u need that many quad exercises to fix a knee problem.
@@CorexcellSportsTrainingRehab ok but does going past those points, being able to do a full nordic etc. reduce risk of INJURY? that's what KOT guy says they do, which is why he's doing it.
I actually made my knees way worse with Knees Over Toes first program that came out. There was no Zero Program at the time and the frequency and exercise selection was much too advanced for the average person, though i was assured by the trainer on the app it would be good for my knees. The Nordics and reverse Nordics were both in this program. Anyway, I aggravated poth patellar tendons doing this thinking it would "bulletproof" my knees. So Ben may have changed his programming but his rush to put out a product that promised bulletproofing actually did the opposite and cost me a lot of pain. So its good that Zero exists but it didnt always. And KOT, as a whole, is not a substitution for a good PT as is often implied in their marketing. Also a ATG split squat is absolutely a quad dominant exercise. Other muscles aid in the movement but, particularly for quad dominant athletes who are looking for knee pain relief, doing a quad dominant exercise puts them in danger of aggravating any preexisting issues they have.
I agree. Injured both knees doing Nordics, and copenhagens, which was further irritated by the reverse nordics. Ending up getting pesansaraine tendonitis... brutal@@jakestatefarm7609
One of the aspects of KOT that light the lightbulb in my head was that outside of the gym, knees are continually over toes in a multitude of sports and even everyday movements. Admittedly not always to the extreme of ones range of movement, but since I've incorporated both upper and lower body exercises that _do_ work to the limit of my range of motion, I am in the best shape of my life.
wonder what the knees over toes guy says about this...i used techniques from him and rehabbed a torn pcl so well i can do a pistol squat at 200 pounds with that knee
Thats bullshit the quads have nothing to do with athletes being able to run fast or jump higher, find a person who back squats 3x their body weight and you will find someone who jumps high, most standard box squats use quads as the main driver until you get all the way to the bottom which then the glutes are activated... I dont agree with you that people who have strong quads do not jump high...
I did not say people with quad development do not jump high. I said people who do super low front squats and ATG lunge (as their primary strength exercises) will not run faster or jump higher from these exercises for obvious reasons i say in the video. I advocate all the exercises u mention to develop glutes and quads to 90 angle or above-which means you did not really watch the video and skimmed through it.
Capoeirista chiming in. It's as safe as you make it. If your body lets you do it without pain, do it. Capoeira been doing these movements for hundreds of years until we are in our '90s
You centered this around "sprinting" World class sprinters...you showe'd one athlete jumping. This is our focus for Volleball, along with explosive horizontal and lateral movements
1) All exercises progress/regress.. and purpose strength in extreme ranges of motion is as a means of 'bulletproofing' joint. 2)The ATG split squat is being performed incorrectly and would have to be regressed for that athlete i.e. elevated front foot on box. 3) The success ATG/KoT has had is unparalleled, they are legit. 4)Also, that is not Usain Bolt. Seems like you didn't adequately research for this video, nor demonstrate a sufficient comprehension of ATG/KoT for a valid critique.
Yes that is Usain Bolt 100%. And if u want to do ATG/KOT I am for it, as i say repeatedly in the video. Just do NOT do crazy weight. And realize it will not make u run or jump faster. If your over 40 and never did ATG I would not take the risk of going to low. And if you want to learn how to master the ATG contact Neal David lol :).
See, I used to think like that. Don't do extreme range of motion, they are dangerous, it's gonna hurt me, all that classic stuff. I have been deeling with some rather annoying on/off knee pain for many years, so I decided you know what, when my knee doesn't hurt, I'm gonna try one of those extreme ROM exercise. And the pain never came back.
who in the history of ever got hurt while doing low intensity movements within their range of motion? That's why you train in those areas so your body is STRONG and can resist injuries when you end up there unintentional
I would agree as i keep watching the video etc.... certain motions are to much, just go to the motions that the body can go to... not extreme positions.... I should have watched more before i made a statement. But quads having no effect for athletism... ehh idk about that one.
I don't think the issue is the ROM, I think its the knee acting as a lever extended that far past the center of mass. For example, elite Olympic lifters can get the same ROM (ass to grass) with extreme ankle and hip mobility and the knees go very little over the toes. Look at Lu Xiaojun at the bottom of a statch. The knee joint is maximally flexed, however the weight seems to be more evenly distributed at the hip as well because of his hip and ankle mobility. I think Ben has confused ROM with the knees having to be over the toes to achieve that ROM.
hello sir,what are the weaknesses that cause hyperextension of the knee? I'm super suffering from this problem just when walking...can your program address and fix this for me? please help,thanks for your time,respectfully.
Absolutely not. He figured it out himself. I just had his true vertical when he started training. Trained with me for 3 months when he was 15. No you are wrong he never trained with Ben. Ben called him to team up and get info. Andy refused the offer.
He was specifically talking about the quad dominate exercises taken to the extreme Usain Bolt was doing a Nordic Curl and wasn't even doing them all the way to the ground and back up. He used this to make a point.
Basically in the first video of Usain, he is working on Acceleration. This requires u to have your knees slightly over the toes in a broad jump style position. However, this exercise is not quad dominant, it involves glutes, hams, and quads. Which is the exact point i made in the video. He does not do any quad dominant knee over toe exercises, in super low position
I personally consider the nordic hamstring curl to be a "stupid human trick", which are movements that depend less on strength/power and more on: 1. Body makeup - people who are great at nordics tend to be people with upper bodies that are underdeveloped compared to their lower bodies. If your upper body is too heavy, I don't care how much you train it, it's gonna hurt and you're not gonna be great at it. 2. A high degree of technique - in every example I've seen, from pros to amateurs, the people who can "go down all the way" always hike their butt up really quick on the concentric so that it's not that noticeable and then from there they scoot their upper body up to where it's supposed to be in the next split second and then they go "See I did it!" No you didn't. You didn't lift your full bodyweight coming out of the hole. If your butt leads the way back up then you cheated, even if you do it really fast.
Your observations are correct but i think your conclusion is wrong. It's not necessarily about mastering the movement down to perfection - it's about working the hamstrings in a way that it becomes more demanding on the hamstrings as they lengthen - as opposed to hamstring curls that become more demanding as the hamstrings shorten. Additionally, in the nordic curl the hamstrings lengthen through knee extension as opposed to a romanian deadlift where they lengthen through hip flexion. Each of the 3 exercises I've mentioned have their own benefits and should preferably all have a place in your training.
It looks like a supercat machine in the back near your baseball fathead poster. I cannot find them anymore and am curious as to the success you have had with it.
This is really good content. I've used alot of his techniques and work very well. Way better than going to pt and doing the same template. Definitely join the program he has for all the exercises, works for me.
“Correction” you almost destroyed your knees! You most probably didn’t take your time on the progressions before moving on to weight. I am currently 2 months in to KOT training and I’ve never felt better.
I’m sorry but full range of motion is important, not only for strength but for flexibility too. Knees over toes exercises are safe. I’m 2 months in and my knees have never felt better. You don’t see him making videos on your method of training, you do you and Allow the rest of us to do us! And by not training at full range is not doing any favours. It’s better to have strength in those positions than not.
The dog in the background always observing everyone in the gym wondering why these humans keep doing weird shit all day.
As an athletic 38 year old who injured both knees with deep NORDIC's and long lever copenhagen's and is approaching 40, this video resonates. I also continued to irritate them with the 'reverse nordic' shown at 1:07 given to me by my PT. I'd imagine there are outliers above 40 who this works for, but for people who aren't at 40 yet, be careful. Zach mentions glute work and hip work, I'm following the COREXCELL program, and it's been more helpful in 6 weeks than PT and the KOT for 6 months.
Ben Patrick will be jumping super high well into his 40s because of his program, rather than crying that he is too old like you
1:46 "they never do any knee over toes exercises"
shows usain bolt doing knees over toes exercises
LOL
But yeah I mean for me personally I do Judo and I've seen plenty of people put their knee out, so that's why I'm doing a lot of KOT training, to strengthen my knee joint. I'm not really concerned with having freakish rapid strength output, I just want a bulletproof/stable knee that can maybe resist me landing in a position outside normal range of motion and not tear everything to bits.. Nobody ever busted their knee out by walking normally back and forth and doing a 20 degree squat. Injuries happen when you fall outside your normal ROM and don't have the strength in those positions to resist the force put on the joint.
You only get to the "extreme rom" with weights when you train extremely like ben.. but when you are starting out every one can't do what Ben does from the start so I think this video is a little bit unfair.
Ppppp de o de o la semaine du son à à peine à se passe très très bien et toi pas pu faire les démarches particulières pour les enfants à ppppp pas à prendre pour les photos des deux autres en fonction du son de o à se mettre d'accord de me dire quand je peux faire le virement me faire le point ppppp o de ttt la semaine passée à se passe pas trop pourquoi mi pm pu voir que le message de ttt de p mi pp p de .
Knees Over Toes Guy techniques save my bad knee.
Mine haven't felt no pain since I was 14 and am 35 now
Same. I had jumpers knee.
Mine too after 2 acl surgeries just atg save it for me
Over 60 and knee over toes guy made my knees good again... don't discount his program
Kot training doesn't necessary make you more Athletic but it is a great for bulletproofing the lower body
Zach is a qualified PT that has coached a roster of NFL athletes, his stuff is well-researched, verifiable and he shows how/why he comes to his conclusions.
Ben Patrick is a social media sensation and a Scientologist.
@@RossKempOnYourMum01NFL athletes get injured everyday. If you never load endrange positions and then enter it in a game enviornment youre at greater risk than someone else who has trained it to some degree. Im not saying this guys content is bad. He has some great content for the shoulder in a baseball related context, but there is clearly some kot beef going on here...
I’ve always suspect about new guys on internet trying to “reinvent the wheels”. The basic always works.
Kudos to you Zach for having the balls to question this social media frenzy that "knee over toes guy" has seemed to establish. I'm a chiropractor and am asked daily about some of these silly extreme videos. While some of his information is good, some is bad and just not necessary. He's got the good story, the good body, the kids, the dog, the mom...etc. He's got the perfect recipe for social media/RUclips success. "Scaling" a bad exercise is still a bad exercise (rounding the back with weights with the toes dorsiflexed to extreme levels..). I'm sure you'll get lots of negative comments/support for the ATG (used to be called arse to grass, now it's something different) on your channel, but thanks for having the guts to speak the truth.
Great points! There is a time and place for KOT. Kids just need to know stretching your ligaments and tendons to the extreme is not the answer for sports or long term longevity. The funny part is the more crazy leg flexibility i see kids have that come into my gym-the more i see them end up tearing the ACL, MCL, and having long term hip and knee issues.
Bold words from a chiropractor. I’ve dealt with several of you charlatans and know your opinion is worth less than nothing after month of weekly “adjustments” with 0 long term solutions.
well I don't see why people ask you, a chiropractor that. Seeing that chiropractic isn't even a real science.. So other than just being interested in the subject like alot of other normal people, what actual qualifications do you have in the area? Nobody ever got hurt doing low intensity movements within their range of motion lol
the knees over toes guy does this stuff mainly for rehabilitation of bad knees. I do agree wit u. athletic performance is a different ball game
As someone who has done 12 weeks of the Zero program and is currently in Dense, there are a few gripes I have with this video. For one, even though Ben does them in his videos and there are benefits, the reverse nordics are not in Zero or Dense.
Also, you say that these exercises do not need to be done with extreme weight and you're right. That's why the zero program is all bodyweight and you have to dominate the form at a pain free level before you can progress which is recommended that someone work in Zero for 12 weeks. Zero is definitely a program that even older people can do because it's all about working the foundation, not about adding weight. If someone can't work a certain exercise at a pain free level, they can drop the weight.
The ATG split squat is not just a quad dominant exercise. It also works the glutes, the muscles and tendons around the ankle, and the hip flexors.
Also, you talk about nordics in the video and how you don't have to do the crazy nordic stuff. But for one, the ATG program doesn't touch nordics until dense. In zero, you work on doing elephant walks which really work the hamstrings good. And in dense, you do exactly what you agreed on Usain Bolt doing in the video, which are eccentric nordics. Focusing on fighting your own bodyweight down.
In the ATG program, Ben shows how a person should start, bodyweight first, then slowly progressing with weight. And it's not like the program only focuses on quad dominant exercises. The first 4 workouts in the Zero program are ones that focus on the calfs, the soleous, and the tibialis. There is also hamstring work that is done. As said before the ATG split squat does not only work the quads.
I don't know how much research you did on the ATG program but it seems like you just picked a couple of things out and tried to target them when those few things do not make up the full essence of what thr ATG program is. It is NOT just quad dominant. You could've easily just said, do not add weight to these exercises until you can do these simple ones first and then work your way up but having a video title that attacks the Ben and calling certain exercises in the ATG program bs in the video seems contradictory since some of your other comments agree with the very things the ATG program teaches
If u really listened to the video, the whole point was athletes do not need to to do extreme quad exercises weighted or go much lower then 90 degrees to reach max speed and vertical. Pro sprinters and jumpers barely do (if any) quad dominant exercises-because it does not improve sports performance. And if they do they do not go past 90 degrees and they do not do more then one quad exercises per week. Secondly, i said athletes do not need to be able to do full nordics or full nordics with weight to reach max speed/vertical. I made both these points pretty clear in the video when explaining Usain.
So yes, i think some of exercises are worth doing as in the zero program. But it is complete BS to go past those points in the dense program when your training athletes. You risk injury and it has nothing to do with improving speed/vert. Nor do u need that many quad exercises to fix a knee problem.
@@CorexcellSportsTrainingRehab ok but does going past those points, being able to do a full nordic etc. reduce risk of INJURY? that's what KOT guy says they do, which is why he's doing it.
I actually made my knees way worse with Knees Over Toes first program that came out. There was no Zero Program at the time and the frequency and exercise selection was much too advanced for the average person, though i was assured by the trainer on the app it would be good for my knees. The Nordics and reverse Nordics were both in this program. Anyway, I aggravated poth patellar tendons doing this thinking it would "bulletproof" my knees.
So Ben may have changed his programming but his rush to put out a product that promised bulletproofing actually did the opposite and cost me a lot of pain. So its good that Zero exists but it didnt always. And KOT, as a whole, is not a substitution for a good PT as is often implied in their marketing.
Also a ATG split squat is absolutely a quad dominant exercise. Other muscles aid in the movement but, particularly for quad dominant athletes who are looking for knee pain relief, doing a quad dominant exercise puts them in danger of aggravating any preexisting issues they have.
I agree. Injured both knees doing Nordics, and copenhagens, which was further irritated by the reverse nordics. Ending up getting pesansaraine tendonitis... brutal@@jakestatefarm7609
One of the aspects of KOT that light the lightbulb in my head was that outside of the gym, knees are continually over toes in a multitude of sports and even everyday movements. Admittedly not always to the extreme of ones range of movement, but since I've incorporated both upper and lower body exercises that _do_ work to the limit of my range of motion, I am in the best shape of my life.
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Why do people teach these stupid exercises
On the Quad killer wall sit, can you bias one side.... my right rect fem is much weaker than the left
wonder what the knees over toes guy says about this...i used techniques from him and rehabbed a torn pcl so well i can do a pistol squat at 200 pounds with that knee
Thats bullshit the quads have nothing to do with athletes being able to run fast or jump higher, find a person who back squats 3x their body weight and you will find someone who jumps high, most standard box squats use quads as the main driver until you get all the way to the bottom which then the glutes are activated... I dont agree with you that people who have strong quads do not jump high...
I did not say people with quad development do not jump high. I said people who do super low front squats and ATG lunge (as their primary strength exercises) will not run faster or jump higher from these exercises for obvious reasons i say in the video. I advocate all the exercises u mention to develop glutes and quads to 90 angle or above-which means you did not really watch the video and skimmed through it.
Capoeirista chiming in. It's as safe as you make it. If your body lets you do it without pain, do it. Capoeira been doing these movements for hundreds of years until we are in our '90s
I agree 100%. Just dont do extreme or use heavier weight in compromised position. Knee ROM is important
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You centered this around "sprinting" World class sprinters...you showe'd one athlete jumping. This is our focus for Volleball, along with explosive horizontal and lateral movements
KOT focus is for knee rehab and support...the loaded stretching focus is for athleticism...two different focuses...
1) All exercises progress/regress.. and purpose strength in extreme ranges of motion is as a means of 'bulletproofing' joint.
2)The ATG split squat is being performed incorrectly and would have to be regressed for that athlete i.e. elevated front foot on box.
3) The success ATG/KoT has had is unparalleled, they are legit.
4)Also, that is not Usain Bolt.
Seems like you didn't adequately research for this video, nor demonstrate a sufficient comprehension of ATG/KoT for a valid critique.
Yes that is Usain Bolt 100%. And if u want to do ATG/KOT I am for it, as i say repeatedly in the video. Just do NOT do crazy weight. And realize it will not make u run or jump faster. If your over 40 and never did ATG I would not take the risk of going to low. And if you want to learn how to master the ATG contact Neal David lol :).
Hey coach, can you please make a video on how to increase vertical jump and 40 yard dash?
:Dd
See, I used to think like that. Don't do extreme range of motion, they are dangerous, it's gonna hurt me, all that classic stuff. I have been deeling with some rather annoying on/off knee pain for many years, so I decided you know what, when my knee doesn't hurt, I'm gonna try one of those extreme ROM exercise. And the pain never came back.
who in the history of ever got hurt while doing low intensity movements within their range of motion? That's why you train in those areas so your body is STRONG and can resist injuries when you end up there unintentional
Or maybe you're just weak
I would agree as i keep watching the video etc.... certain motions are to much, just go to the motions that the body can go to... not extreme positions.... I should have watched more before i made a statement. But quads having no effect for athletism... ehh idk about that one.
I don't think the issue is the ROM, I think its the knee acting as a lever extended that far past the center of mass.
For example, elite Olympic lifters can get the same ROM (ass to grass) with extreme ankle and hip mobility and the knees go very little over the toes. Look at Lu Xiaojun at the bottom of a statch. The knee joint is maximally flexed, however the weight seems to be more evenly distributed at the hip as well because of his hip and ankle mobility.
I think Ben has confused ROM with the knees having to be over the toes to achieve that ROM.
cable squats save my knees
hello sir,what are the weaknesses that cause hyperextension of the knee? I'm super suffering from this problem just when walking...can your program address and fix this for me? please help,thanks for your time,respectfully.
I think that this exercise is similar to Sissy squat. Am I right?
great content as usual
Hmm idkkk mr infinity looks pretty athletic to me & he does everything from kot
I spoke with andy and he ended up training with Ben and he moved to Florida... are you saying you are responsible for his vert?
Absolutely not. He figured it out himself. I just had his true vertical when he started training. Trained with me for 3 months when he was 15. No you are wrong he never trained with Ben. Ben called him to team up and get info. Andy refused the offer.
“You rarely see them do kot exercises”
instantly proceeds to Usain Bolt doing knees over toes exercises
He was specifically talking about the quad dominate exercises taken to the extreme Usain Bolt was doing a Nordic Curl and wasn't even doing them all the way to the ground and back up. He used this to make a point.
Basically in the first video of Usain, he is working on Acceleration. This requires u to have your knees slightly over the toes in a broad jump style position. However, this exercise is not quad dominant, it involves glutes, hams, and quads. Which is the exact point i made in the video. He does not do any quad dominant knee over toe exercises, in super low position
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Thanks, i guess a smooth spanish squath could be help too ?
I personally consider the nordic hamstring curl to be a "stupid human trick", which are movements that depend less on strength/power and more on:
1. Body makeup - people who are great at nordics tend to be people with upper bodies that are underdeveloped compared to their lower bodies. If your upper body is too heavy, I don't care how much you train it, it's gonna hurt and you're not gonna be great at it.
2. A high degree of technique - in every example I've seen, from pros to amateurs, the people who can "go down all the way" always hike their butt up really quick on the concentric so that it's not that noticeable and then from there they scoot their upper body up to where it's supposed to be in the next split second and then they go "See I did it!" No you didn't. You didn't lift your full bodyweight coming out of the hole. If your butt leads the way back up then you cheated, even if you do it really fast.
Your observations are correct but i think your conclusion is wrong. It's not necessarily about mastering the movement down to perfection - it's about working the hamstrings in a way that it becomes more demanding on the hamstrings as they lengthen - as opposed to hamstring curls that become more demanding as the hamstrings shorten. Additionally, in the nordic curl the hamstrings lengthen through knee extension as opposed to a romanian deadlift where they lengthen through hip flexion. Each of the 3 exercises I've mentioned have their own benefits and should preferably all have a place in your training.
Doc what do you think about “barefoot” shoes?
I respect you more if you never used a popular guy to up your profile.
This guy either didn’t watch the video or he has the attention span of a infant.
This literally makes my legs scream
It looks like a supercat machine in the back near your baseball fathead poster. I cannot find them anymore and am curious as to the success you have had with it.
I have two sitting in my garage. I use to use when i trained teams. Looking to sell them. Great machine. The best for weighted jumps
@@CorexcellSportsTrainingRehab How much are asking?
Minto64 1750 per machine.
Thank you 🙏! You are the best
What about reverse Nordics?
Brilliant
Should be interesting
Injuries ended usain bolts career. I really don’t know if usain bolt was the best example to use here though. Still enjoy the content
He never hurt his knee in his entire career. The only injury he had was a pulled hamstring. Most top sprinters do at some point. Thanks for watching.
Didn't he go vegan?
This is really good content. I've used alot of his techniques and work very well. Way better than going to pt and doing the same template. Definitely join the program he has for all the exercises, works for me.
Wish I could downvote this twice
How could youuu lmao
Thanks for this insight
100% true, the knee over those guy program almost destroyed my both knees...its all for social media and the money.
If that destroyed your knees you did something very very wrong
“Correction” you almost destroyed your knees! You most probably didn’t take your time on the progressions before moving on to weight.
I am currently 2 months in to KOT training and I’ve never felt better.
I’m sorry but full range of motion is important, not only for strength but for flexibility too. Knees over toes exercises are safe. I’m 2 months in and my knees have never felt better.
You don’t see him making videos on your method of training, you do you and Allow the rest of us to do us!
And by not training at full range is not doing any favours. It’s better to have strength in those positions than not.