The problem with pitching down AFTER you’ve EQ’d anything is that through pitching you are naturally lowering the frequencies in the audio source - meaning your perfected cuts & notches and now going to be hitting unwanted frequencies. Luckily Stranjah liked the original key of his Amen break but for anyone who likes to try transposing after composition & EQ’ing as part of the creating process - make sure you bounce your EQ’d track down as audio in its original key first before committing to key changes. That way when you THEN transpose the audio, the changes you made during Equalisation will not translate into unwanted frequency territory. If you were using something like an 808 Kick drum and multiple notes are playing in your loop - something like Surfer EQ can be handy. I find when sound designing - apply your processing to the original sample then bouncing down into audio is the simplest method. Just a heads up for people, also ALWAYS make a *filename*v2 project when you begin tinkering with stuff that moves you sideways from where you left off! That way if you make mistakes you can go back to how it was before you got lost. Nice vid Stranjah!
thanks for the tip, also this seems like it could be avoided by deciding on a pitch before EQing right? seems like it would be tedious to place warp markers, slice to midi, do all that processing, only to have to bounce to audio and repeat the entire process just bc you want the pitch changed
Dude you single handedly have carried me through my first days of production! You seriously have a video for every aspect of this stuff. You honestly deserve a lot more subs
Finally managed to find a couple of days to sit down and work through these epic amen tutorials .... having so much fun and i've not even thought about bass yet ... best channel on youtube, great content 👏
I truly appreciate your effort and the way you share your knowledge! Your explanations are clear, practical, and incredibly helpful for all of us looking to improve our mixing skills. Thank you for dedicating so much time to creating such high-quality content! Keep up the amazing work, you inspire so many of us!
There are many Ableton tutorials on YT. Moustly nothing special. But this is very special.. You are the best! Clear and helpfull informations. Also your DnB tutorials are fantastic. Many thanks for sharig and great inspiration.
man ur tutorails are ten times better than most peoples i love the way u explain things inn detail so even the fresh spawns can understand awsome stuff keep it up
Thank you so much for this video. I've looked through many and this is by far the most comprehensive Ableton beginner tutorial on how to make Jungle. I'm new to Ableton and this has helped me immensely. Big respect for sharing the knowledge. Thanks man!!
Stranjah, you're awesome. Your productions, you taking the time to teach, and providing the Amen (which is a mind blowingly awesome thing, to have an Amen provided so we can focus on being creative with it). Really enjoyed the pacing of the video and glad to see you bringing compression into Pt. 2. Keep it up!
I haven’t produced anything since the days of Reason 3. I’m only just now getting back into it, albeit, only for myself. I don’t plan on releasing anything. That said, your series is very easy to understand and follow along with. Thanks for making it illiterate-compatible for dummies like me, bruh!
No, I haven’t decided on which platform to use. It’s between Ableton and FL Studios. Right now I’m just getting any ideas into GarageBand cuz I can’t write music. Any of those ideas that have song potential, I’ll revisit when I’m back up and running. I had to flip what gear I had in ‘08 when I became a single dad. Turntables and all. Yes, it stung as much as it sounds, grumble grumble. My son is an adult now, which lets me start to think about me again lol. Keep up the great work bro!
Really good tutorial Stranjah. I'm switching from a different DAW as I was feeling pretty stagnant using it, and Ableton has been a breath of fresh air. One thing though make sure you point out to remove those ghost slices ableton creates, as when I converted to midi I had about 4 slices of nothing. Also don't try this with a Rex file. Great choice on using Tighten Up as the layered break. To any aspiring jungle producer use your ears, there your best hardware Nuff respect from the Major, London sides!
@@STRANJAH I stand corrected Stranjah. Absolutely nothing wrong with your instructions, I made a blunder on the warp markers during the conversion to midi. Really loving Ableton and it's work flow. Keep up the good work mate!
Nice1! Great job, quick at getting something to sound good! The last little bit with the bass, is a song on its own. Let that run for 5 min and you have a typical DnB track! =D
Hey there’s a four minute drum solo in the song “inagoddadavida” by iron butterfly, could you make a break from it and make a video of you going through that process?
Hey mate love your videos complete novice here but you have inspired me from just playing tunes to actually making them. I am trying to re-enact your video for the amen breaks and I know this is probably a silly question but I cannot find the section on Ableton you chop the amen up in I can only find "sampler and simpler" however they do not as "user friendly" as what you are using in the video is it a plug in maybe? Sorry if this is a silly question
Wow! Those EQ sweet spots are literally the best production tip for amens ever! No matter how times i tried EQing mine to accentuate different harmonics it always sounded like poop! No more thanks to you, good sir! I hope you get to come back to Montreal soon, it’s been too long!
Can you tell me who was some of the best producers of the amend break for drum and base or jungle. I love your tutorials. I am a newbie but I am working from Cubase Artist and trying to figure things out.
Hi man, i love the tutorials on your channel. i had a question, each time i cut slices of my drum sample into a new midi track. they sound very different/ off beat compared to the original. using quantize only makes it worse. anyone knows how to fix this?
Just had a thought. If you tricked ableton with a transient designer to really exaggerate the transients. Would ableton recognise the transients that it has missed instead of chopping each one? I don't use this daw but just had an idea.
When i slice my amen drum break sample into midi notes, every time it starts to play a new midi note i get this very annoying clicking noise and i have no idea what's causing it.. anyone have some ideas?
can anyone hear the machine wine in the amen-best way to get rid of that ?its there when sustain is above -30db…is there a way of removing other than sustain setting?
how did you learn all this stuff/ im struggling as a 21 year old to even find my groove in music making, i find myself becoming more and more unmotivated and uninspired daily and no idea what to do. i find myself glazing through tutorials and im getting ready to go to school for music technology but what can i do for now? i need some advice
am struggling with the oldskool 90s strings over piano melodies aswell if your up too the challenge. am new to production but if you type in my name into youtube i have got some good feedback from what ive came up with so far.
How do you manage to cut up so clean? Whenever I do it my slices sound flangy and lose all the meat the original break has. I thought it might have been the way I put the markers but that did nothing.
Same thing was happening to me. You can mess around with the sample beginning and end on the waveform within drum rack. It seems to be any sample that comes before a hi hat. I thought altering the hihat sound would fix it but I had to alter the sample before it, I think they are mostly snare samples, depends how you sliced it. You can also try shortening or lengthening the midi note on the piano roll.
Replying to own post 😐Been messing around with this for a few days... When you select slice to MIDI it automatically puts the samples into "Classic Mode" whereas "1-Shot" is more suitable for drums. With a small fade in and out on each pad (you can just use right click copy to all siblings to save time) the clicks have disappeared and you dont need to mess with the waveform.
love the simplicity and pace of the turoial, excellent work. not sure waht im doig wrong, but when I change teh tempo (even to 164), my break is much faster than yours. I have the same amen break. Any advice?
pretty sure you dont have to loop before cropping. You crop your *selection* , in your case you got your selection when you loop it first but that doesnt mean it isnt an obsolete step. [suite 11 user]
If using Live Lite/Intro create a MIDI track, drop the sample into the track which should open Simpler, select "Slice" tab at left, recheck your slice points then right-click on sample and 'Slice to MIDI'. This will create the new sample. Though probably best to crop the clip before dropping it in (if using Stranjah's section), but, you can just start at the appropriate point in the break.
When Dragging the break onto an audio channel in Abelton, The Seg. Bpm value which is supposed to be calculated by Abelton is just set to the project BPM every time i do this. instead of being set to an estimation of the BPM? Is there a quick fix for this? or a setting i'm missing? This has been really frustrating for a while as I've had to use external software to calculate the bpm of audio files i drag into Abelton.
I have learned more about making beats in the last week of obsessing over your channel then the entire last 10 years...
The problem with pitching down AFTER you’ve EQ’d anything is that through pitching you are naturally lowering the frequencies in the audio source - meaning your perfected cuts & notches and now going to be hitting unwanted frequencies. Luckily Stranjah liked the original key of his Amen break but for anyone who likes to try transposing after composition & EQ’ing as part of the creating process - make sure you bounce your EQ’d track down as audio in its original key first before committing to key changes. That way when you THEN transpose the audio, the changes you made during Equalisation will not translate into unwanted frequency territory. If you were using something like an 808 Kick drum and multiple notes are playing in your loop - something like Surfer EQ can be handy. I find when sound designing - apply your processing to the original sample then bouncing down into audio is the simplest method. Just a heads up for people, also ALWAYS make a *filename*v2 project when you begin tinkering with stuff that moves you sideways from where you left off! That way if you make mistakes you can go back to how it was before you got lost. Nice vid Stranjah!
thanks for the tip, also this seems like it could be avoided by deciding on a pitch before EQing right? seems like it would be tedious to place warp markers, slice to midi, do all that processing, only to have to bounce to audio and repeat the entire process just bc you want the pitch changed
Just in case anyone finds this useful, you can move transient markers around by holding shift, clicking & dragging
Dinosaur Hunter ayy! Actual useful, thank you
man i spent 4 hours trying to figure that out. thank you !
DUUUUDE thank you
Thank you. Truly
wow!
Dude you single handedly have carried me through my first days of production! You seriously have a video for every aspect of this stuff. You honestly deserve a lot more subs
preserving the swing by selecting and moving two midi notes is blowing my mind. SUCH an elegant trick.
Thank you so much Stranjah! Just made my first little jungle loop ever from following your video! Brig respect
Finally managed to find a couple of days to sit down and work through these epic amen tutorials .... having so much fun and i've not even thought about bass yet ... best channel on youtube, great content 👏
I truly appreciate your effort and the way you share your knowledge! Your explanations are clear, practical, and incredibly helpful for all of us looking to improve our mixing skills. Thank you for dedicating so much time to creating such high-quality content! Keep up the amazing work, you inspire so many of us!
This was soooo helpful! Just starting out on Ableton and this is the first tutorial that's made one bit of sense. Thank you!!!
Stranjah is the man. Well knows his stuff. Respek!
There are many Ableton tutorials on YT. Moustly nothing special. But this is very special.. You are the best! Clear and helpfull informations. Also your DnB tutorials are fantastic. Many thanks for sharig and great inspiration.
Just upgraded to Live 11 Suite with a Push 3. Day 1 was great, Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm hooked on this channel! 🤖
Dude i've been wanting to find a tutorial like this on amen breaks for months. Thanks so much
man ur tutorails are ten times better than most peoples i love the way u explain things inn detail so even the fresh spawns can understand awsome stuff keep it up
Thank you so much for this video. I've looked through many and this is by far the most comprehensive Ableton beginner tutorial on how to make Jungle. I'm new to Ableton and this has helped me immensely. Big respect for sharing the knowledge. Thanks man!!
sick tutorial
That was awesome! Can you do you more of this drum and bass tutorial?
Glad you enjoyed it Christopher. I definitely will be doing more d&b tutorials, stay posted.
Your channel is a gem, you should have more subs, but I'm glad you don't at the same time because these tips are too fire
hahah thanks man!
Totally agree
Let's capture him so the secrets will be ours only 👏😂
yo ifeel like this is the channel u dont tell ur mates about and keep it a secret lol
jhon walsh I’m on the same page with that!
Well done. You broke down the workflow perfectly.
Thanks Scott!
Legend!! Just watched this first part and learnt so much. Now up to the second part. Big ups!!
glad to hear that!
This was a excellent video with a lot of great techniques shown, thank you. Really enjoying your teaching style.
Great video. Not touched Jungle/hardcore since the 90s. Nice for a revisit using a modern DAW instead of trackers.
Stranjah, you're awesome. Your productions, you taking the time to teach, and providing the Amen (which is a mind blowingly awesome thing, to have an Amen provided so we can focus on being creative with it). Really enjoyed the pacing of the video and glad to see you bringing compression into Pt. 2. Keep it up!
Thank you for the kind comment, your feedback is encouraging and keeps me going on!
Thank you so much for this tutorial! You break down everything really concretely in Ableton so I appreciate it!
I haven’t produced anything since the days of Reason 3. I’m only just now getting back into it, albeit, only for myself. I don’t plan on releasing anything. That said, your series is very easy to understand and follow along with. Thanks for making it illiterate-compatible for dummies like me, bruh!
ha Cheers Tom, I'm glad I could help. Are you using Ableton now?
No, I haven’t decided on which platform to use. It’s between Ableton and FL Studios. Right now I’m just getting any ideas into GarageBand cuz I can’t write music. Any of those ideas that have song potential, I’ll revisit when I’m back up and running. I had to flip what gear I had in ‘08 when I became a single dad. Turntables and all. Yes, it stung as much as it sounds, grumble grumble. My son is an adult now, which lets me start to think about me again lol. Keep up the great work bro!
Anyone know why I don't have the option to slice to new midi track when i right click? (4:14)
Really good tutorial Stranjah. I'm switching from a different DAW as I was feeling pretty stagnant using it, and Ableton has been a breath of fresh air. One thing though make sure you point out to remove those ghost slices ableton creates, as when I converted to midi I had about 4 slices of nothing. Also don't try this with a Rex file.
Great choice on using Tighten Up as the layered break. To any aspiring jungle producer use your ears, there your best hardware Nuff respect from the Major, London sides!
thanks for the heads up, yes, to avoid the blank slices, try to use your own warp markers, thats one way around it. bigup!
@@STRANJAH I stand corrected Stranjah. Absolutely nothing wrong with your instructions, I made a blunder on the warp markers during the conversion to midi. Really loving Ableton and it's work flow. Keep up the good work mate!
Really smooth walkthrough!
cheers!
Using live 11 suite in 2023 and im very new. Would I be able to use Simpler to automatically slice the tranaients into MIDI?
I love You for all the time and effort and also for sharing Your knowledge.
Only just found your channel and I'm loving it. You rock Stranjah!
Nice!
How did Current Value made Dark Rain ? Xx
sick video I had a lot of fun experimenting with this, added some filter delays on the snares and it sounded really cool.
Amens are always a good time!
how did you add on just the snares?
After moving the transient markers, do you need to quantise?
Nice1!
Great job, quick at getting something to sound good! The last little bit with the bass, is a song on its own. Let that run for 5 min and you have a typical DnB track! =D
Cheers I'm glad you enjoyed it. Oh no DnB isn't that easy, you still have to add edits and variations here and there!
Hey there’s a four minute drum solo in the song “inagoddadavida” by iron butterfly, could you make a break from it and make a video of you going through that process?
Do you have a video for absolute beginners?
Could you do one for all different breaks like Apache, think, hotpants
The process is very similar, however, sure why not. I'll do one and show you how I would incorporate such breaks in a track!
@@SerendipityForever that would be great man
Hey mate love your videos complete novice here but you have inspired me from just playing tunes to actually making them. I am trying to re-enact your video for the amen breaks and I know this is probably a silly question but I cannot find the section on Ableton you chop the amen up in I can only find "sampler and simpler" however they do not as "user friendly" as what you are using in the video is it a plug in maybe? Sorry if this is a silly question
looking forward to learning from this. thanks stranjah
Your welcome Nick, thanks for watching
Awesome tutorial and thank you so much! I would like to know more about making variations of the break
Where can you find drum samples like the one at 11:34? I’m struggling to find hard hitting kick sounds and making my own is quite difficult right now.
14:24 windows notification came in clutch with the bassline lol
Wow! Those EQ sweet spots are literally the best production tip for amens ever! No matter how times i tried EQing mine to accentuate different harmonics it always sounded like poop! No more thanks to you, good sir! I hope you get to come back to Montreal soon, it’s been too long!
Hey man! Just wanna say thanks for the spotify play list jungle, choppage, drumfunk. It’s a 💎! Really nice at work keeping in time. Love it. 🙏🏻
loving your channel bro
Glad you enjoy it!
Very nice beat mate!
Great video. Just a quick question, what would be the best quantize settings to use in this instance?
Thanks for your tutorials !
Fantastic video, thank you
Thanks man, this was SUPER useful.... thumbs up!!!!!
These tutorials are great! Could you make the amen sample available again?
Awesome Lesson!
Am I able to chop up the breaks from the Google Drive link and use them in my music on Spotify? Pretty new to all of this.
Yes
Can you tell me who was some of the best producers of the amend break for drum and base or jungle. I love your tutorials. I am a newbie but I am working from Cubase Artist and trying to figure things out.
when i convert a break to midi it seems to lose a fair bit of its volume. Can someone please explain?
6:51 ❤️ now i am learning it on drums
林老师教得好啊，我打算做Breakcore
It doesn't give me a slice to midi option at all
great videos mate
Prodigy firestarter break 🤩
Hi man, i love the tutorials on your channel. i had a question, each time i cut slices of my drum sample into a new midi track. they sound very different/ off beat compared to the original. using quantize only makes it worse. anyone knows how to fix this?
Great introduction to jungle. Thanks a lot, dude.
Awesome video !! Thank you...
Just had a thought. If you tricked ableton with a transient designer to really exaggerate the transients. Would ableton recognise the transients that it has missed instead of chopping each one? I don't use this daw but just had an idea.
I think it would work if you then bounce the break with the exaggerated transients to audio and then run it through the process
When i slice my amen drum break sample into midi notes, every time it starts to play a new midi note i get this very annoying clicking noise and i have no idea what's causing it.. anyone have some ideas?
Hey! This sounds similar to No Eyes by Noose!
can anyone hear the machine wine in the amen-best way to get rid of that ?its there when sustain is above -30db…is there a way of removing other than sustain setting?
how did you learn all this stuff/
im struggling as a 21 year old to even find my groove in music making, i find myself becoming more and more unmotivated and uninspired daily and no idea what to do. i find myself glazing through tutorials and im getting ready to go to school for music technology but what can i do for now? i need some advice
Be patient. Learn one thing at a time. Rome wasn’t built in a day. After a while the knowledge you attained will culminate into brilliance.
Thank you !!! Thank YOU for bringing this back to my memory dude for real. Love you brother #Amen #Abelton #Cyborg_33 🙏🏾💚🥁🥁🥁🥁🤟🏿 #PTSD Sucks
Amazing tips! Thanks!
Great video thanks, have you got a bass video?
Hi Josh, yes I have several videos on bass such as 808, ray keith, reese. Check my library. And let me know if there is anything else you want?
@@STRANJAH Excellent Subscribed!
am struggling with the oldskool 90s strings over piano melodies aswell if your up too the challenge. am new to production but if you type in my name into youtube i have got some good feedback from what ive came up with so far.
When I slice to midi, I lose a ton of volume on the break. Any solution to this?
Turn up the volume knob for slice. Then “right click copy setting to siblings”. Or just add Utility effect and bump gain
@@STRANJAH thank you sir
Looks like the Amen file was deleted. Any chance of getting it uploaded again?
tinyurl.com/stranjah-breaks
@@STRANJAH man thanks so much. I’m out of town until next week. Going to grab these when I get home
Thank you very much for this one ! found this really helpful dude 🙌 looking forward for pt 2 🤗💪
Your welcome, I hope you were able to follow along.
Aaah wicked! Been looking for tutorials like this. Would be wicked if you could do one on something similar to the mentasm hoover ;)
Will look into that!
Great teacher !
Thank you!
How do you manage to cut up so clean? Whenever I do it my slices sound flangy and lose all the meat the original break has. I thought it might have been the way I put the markers but that did nothing.
You may have to turn off the Warp mode
I get clicking in between my warp slices. sounds like the sample is overlapping between the cuts. Any idea how I can fix this?
Same thing was happening to me. You can mess around with the sample beginning and end on the waveform within drum rack. It seems to be any sample that comes before a hi hat. I thought altering the hihat sound would fix it but I had to alter the sample before it, I think they are mostly snare samples, depends how you sliced it. You can also try shortening or lengthening the midi note on the piano roll.
Replying to own post 😐Been messing around with this for a few days... When you select slice to MIDI it automatically puts the samples into "Classic Mode" whereas "1-Shot" is more suitable for drums. With a small fade in and out on each pad (you can just use right click copy to all siblings to save time) the clicks have disappeared and you dont need to mess with the waveform.
Bro, what should I do if the option of slicing into a midi track doesn't appear?
Make sure you've got the audio clip's warp box checked, should work then!
Love this. Nit been through all your videos but have you done one on arrangement? I always like to see new ways of arranging tracks and workflow too.
Hi @Stranjah, i was wondering why a lot of producer use thoses samples, its possible to build something like that ? need speed up then ?
YOU FUCKING BLESSED, IVE BEEN TRYIKG TO FIGURE THIS OUT OM MY OWN FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS. Thanks for the time save lol 7:33
Awesome video 🔥
love the simplicity and pace of the turoial, excellent work. not sure waht im doig wrong, but when I change teh tempo (even to 164), my break is much faster than yours. I have the same amen break. Any advice?
That is very odd. Send me a render so I can check it out!
This does not help, but in solidarity that happens to me with other breaks (though more often slowed down).
Do you set the Tempo before or after importing the loop? Tempo should be set first. My first idea.... 🙂
Really helpful. Thank you, sir.
Dude u are awesome :D
And i saw u were on the decks with Gremlinz, much wow sir :O
you are the best ! thank you !!
pretty sure you dont have to loop before cropping. You crop your *selection* , in your case you got your selection when you loop it first but that doesnt mean it isnt an obsolete step. [suite 11 user]
Thank you so much for this tutorial!
Your welcome!
This was excellent and helped me a lot! Thanks.
You're welcome!
Beautyfull thank you so much !
Hi and thanks , how much did u take out of the amens low end? 100hz?
Amazing video 👍🏽
top tutorial thanks for sharing!.
You're welcome!
i dont have the slice to midi option
If using Live Lite/Intro create a MIDI track, drop the sample into the track which should open Simpler, select "Slice" tab at left, recheck your slice points then right-click on sample and 'Slice to MIDI'. This will create the new sample. Though probably best to crop the clip before dropping it in (if using Stranjah's section), but, you can just start at the appropriate point in the break.
When Dragging the break onto an audio channel in Abelton, The Seg. Bpm value which is supposed to be calculated by Abelton is just set to the project BPM every time i do this. instead of being set to an estimation of the BPM? Is there a quick fix for this? or a setting i'm missing? This has been really frustrating for a while as I've had to use external software to calculate the bpm of audio files i drag into Abelton.
I’m pretty sure if you un-warp the segment it returns to its original bpm
thanks, bro I'm going to totally use this.
thanks brother
thanks for the sample,downloaded