The problem with pitching down AFTER you’ve EQ’d anything is that through pitching you are naturally lowering the frequencies in the audio source - meaning your perfected cuts & notches and now going to be hitting unwanted frequencies. Luckily Stranjah liked the original key of his Amen break but for anyone who likes to try transposing after composition & EQ’ing as part of the creating process - make sure you bounce your EQ’d track down as audio in its original key first before committing to key changes. That way when you THEN transpose the audio, the changes you made during Equalisation will not translate into unwanted frequency territory. If you were using something like an 808 Kick drum and multiple notes are playing in your loop - something like Surfer EQ can be handy. I find when sound designing - apply your processing to the original sample then bouncing down into audio is the simplest method. Just a heads up for people, also ALWAYS make a *filename*v2 project when you begin tinkering with stuff that moves you sideways from where you left off! That way if you make mistakes you can go back to how it was before you got lost. Nice vid Stranjah!
thanks for the tip, also this seems like it could be avoided by deciding on a pitch before EQing right? seems like it would be tedious to place warp markers, slice to midi, do all that processing, only to have to bounce to audio and repeat the entire process just bc you want the pitch changed
I truly appreciate your effort and the way you share your knowledge! Your explanations are clear, practical, and incredibly helpful for all of us looking to improve our mixing skills. Thank you for dedicating so much time to creating such high-quality content! Keep up the amazing work, you inspire so many of us!
Dude you single handedly have carried me through my first days of production! You seriously have a video for every aspect of this stuff. You honestly deserve a lot more subs
Finally managed to find a couple of days to sit down and work through these epic amen tutorials .... having so much fun and i've not even thought about bass yet ... best channel on youtube, great content 👏
There are many Ableton tutorials on YT. Moustly nothing special. But this is very special.. You are the best! Clear and helpfull informations. Also your DnB tutorials are fantastic. Many thanks for sharig and great inspiration.
man ur tutorails are ten times better than most peoples i love the way u explain things inn detail so even the fresh spawns can understand awsome stuff keep it up
Thank you so much for this video. I've looked through many and this is by far the most comprehensive Ableton beginner tutorial on how to make Jungle. I'm new to Ableton and this has helped me immensely. Big respect for sharing the knowledge. Thanks man!!
I haven’t produced anything since the days of Reason 3. I’m only just now getting back into it, albeit, only for myself. I don’t plan on releasing anything. That said, your series is very easy to understand and follow along with. Thanks for making it illiterate-compatible for dummies like me, bruh!
No, I haven’t decided on which platform to use. It’s between Ableton and FL Studios. Right now I’m just getting any ideas into GarageBand cuz I can’t write music. Any of those ideas that have song potential, I’ll revisit when I’m back up and running. I had to flip what gear I had in ‘08 when I became a single dad. Turntables and all. Yes, it stung as much as it sounds, grumble grumble. My son is an adult now, which lets me start to think about me again lol. Keep up the great work bro!
Really good tutorial Stranjah. I'm switching from a different DAW as I was feeling pretty stagnant using it, and Ableton has been a breath of fresh air. One thing though make sure you point out to remove those ghost slices ableton creates, as when I converted to midi I had about 4 slices of nothing. Also don't try this with a Rex file. Great choice on using Tighten Up as the layered break. To any aspiring jungle producer use your ears, there your best hardware Nuff respect from the Major, London sides!
@@STRANJAH I stand corrected Stranjah. Absolutely nothing wrong with your instructions, I made a blunder on the warp markers during the conversion to midi. Really loving Ableton and it's work flow. Keep up the good work mate!
Hey mate love your videos complete novice here but you have inspired me from just playing tunes to actually making them. I am trying to re-enact your video for the amen breaks and I know this is probably a silly question but I cannot find the section on Ableton you chop the amen up in I can only find "sampler and simpler" however they do not as "user friendly" as what you are using in the video is it a plug in maybe? Sorry if this is a silly question
Hey there’s a four minute drum solo in the song “inagoddadavida” by iron butterfly, could you make a break from it and make a video of you going through that process?
Nice1! Great job, quick at getting something to sound good! The last little bit with the bass, is a song on its own. Let that run for 5 min and you have a typical DnB track! =D
Wow! Those EQ sweet spots are literally the best production tip for amens ever! No matter how times i tried EQing mine to accentuate different harmonics it always sounded like poop! No more thanks to you, good sir! I hope you get to come back to Montreal soon, it’s been too long!
Can you tell me who was some of the best producers of the amend break for drum and base or jungle. I love your tutorials. I am a newbie but I am working from Cubase Artist and trying to figure things out.
pretty sure you dont have to loop before cropping. You crop your *selection* , in your case you got your selection when you loop it first but that doesnt mean it isnt an obsolete step. [suite 11 user]
Hi man, i love the tutorials on your channel. i had a question, each time i cut slices of my drum sample into a new midi track. they sound very different/ off beat compared to the original. using quantize only makes it worse. anyone knows how to fix this?
love the simplicity and pace of the turoial, excellent work. not sure waht im doig wrong, but when I change teh tempo (even to 164), my break is much faster than yours. I have the same amen break. Any advice?
Just had a thought. If you tricked ableton with a transient designer to really exaggerate the transients. Would ableton recognise the transients that it has missed instead of chopping each one? I don't use this daw but just had an idea.
am struggling with the oldskool 90s strings over piano melodies aswell if your up too the challenge. am new to production but if you type in my name into youtube i have got some good feedback from what ive came up with so far.
Stranjah, you're awesome. Your productions, you taking the time to teach, and providing the Amen (which is a mind blowingly awesome thing, to have an Amen provided so we can focus on being creative with it). Really enjoyed the pacing of the video and glad to see you bringing compression into Pt. 2. Keep it up!
how did you learn all this stuff/ im struggling as a 21 year old to even find my groove in music making, i find myself becoming more and more unmotivated and uninspired daily and no idea what to do. i find myself glazing through tutorials and im getting ready to go to school for music technology but what can i do for now? i need some advice
How do you manage to cut up so clean? Whenever I do it my slices sound flangy and lose all the meat the original break has. I thought it might have been the way I put the markers but that did nothing.
can anyone hear the machine wine in the amen-best way to get rid of that ?its there when sustain is above -30db…is there a way of removing other than sustain setting?
When i slice my amen drum break sample into midi notes, every time it starts to play a new midi note i get this very annoying clicking noise and i have no idea what's causing it.. anyone have some ideas?
Same thing was happening to me. You can mess around with the sample beginning and end on the waveform within drum rack. It seems to be any sample that comes before a hi hat. I thought altering the hihat sound would fix it but I had to alter the sample before it, I think they are mostly snare samples, depends how you sliced it. You can also try shortening or lengthening the midi note on the piano roll.
Replying to own post 😐Been messing around with this for a few days... When you select slice to MIDI it automatically puts the samples into "Classic Mode" whereas "1-Shot" is more suitable for drums. With a small fade in and out on each pad (you can just use right click copy to all siblings to save time) the clicks have disappeared and you dont need to mess with the waveform.
I have learned more about making beats in the last week of obsessing over your channel then the entire last 10 years...
The problem with pitching down AFTER you’ve EQ’d anything is that through pitching you are naturally lowering the frequencies in the audio source - meaning your perfected cuts & notches and now going to be hitting unwanted frequencies. Luckily Stranjah liked the original key of his Amen break but for anyone who likes to try transposing after composition & EQ’ing as part of the creating process - make sure you bounce your EQ’d track down as audio in its original key first before committing to key changes. That way when you THEN transpose the audio, the changes you made during Equalisation will not translate into unwanted frequency territory. If you were using something like an 808 Kick drum and multiple notes are playing in your loop - something like Surfer EQ can be handy. I find when sound designing - apply your processing to the original sample then bouncing down into audio is the simplest method. Just a heads up for people, also ALWAYS make a *filename*v2 project when you begin tinkering with stuff that moves you sideways from where you left off! That way if you make mistakes you can go back to how it was before you got lost. Nice vid Stranjah!
thanks for the tip, also this seems like it could be avoided by deciding on a pitch before EQing right? seems like it would be tedious to place warp markers, slice to midi, do all that processing, only to have to bounce to audio and repeat the entire process just bc you want the pitch changed
Just in case anyone finds this useful, you can move transient markers around by holding shift, clicking & dragging
Dinosaur Hunter ayy! Actual useful, thank you
man i spent 4 hours trying to figure that out. thank you !
DUUUUDE thank you
Thank you. Truly
wow!
I truly appreciate your effort and the way you share your knowledge! Your explanations are clear, practical, and incredibly helpful for all of us looking to improve our mixing skills. Thank you for dedicating so much time to creating such high-quality content! Keep up the amazing work, you inspire so many of us!
Dude you single handedly have carried me through my first days of production! You seriously have a video for every aspect of this stuff. You honestly deserve a lot more subs
preserving the swing by selecting and moving two midi notes is blowing my mind. SUCH an elegant trick.
Finally managed to find a couple of days to sit down and work through these epic amen tutorials .... having so much fun and i've not even thought about bass yet ... best channel on youtube, great content 👏
Just upgraded to Live 11 Suite with a Push 3. Day 1 was great, Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm hooked on this channel! 🤖
This was soooo helpful! Just starting out on Ableton and this is the first tutorial that's made one bit of sense. Thank you!!!
There are many Ableton tutorials on YT. Moustly nothing special. But this is very special.. You are the best! Clear and helpfull informations. Also your DnB tutorials are fantastic. Many thanks for sharig and great inspiration.
man ur tutorails are ten times better than most peoples i love the way u explain things inn detail so even the fresh spawns can understand awsome stuff keep it up
Stranjah is the man. Well knows his stuff. Respek!
Thank you so much for this video. I've looked through many and this is by far the most comprehensive Ableton beginner tutorial on how to make Jungle. I'm new to Ableton and this has helped me immensely. Big respect for sharing the knowledge. Thanks man!!
Your channel is a gem, you should have more subs, but I'm glad you don't at the same time because these tips are too fire
hahah thanks man!
Totally agree
Let's capture him so the secrets will be ours only 👏😂
yo ifeel like this is the channel u dont tell ur mates about and keep it a secret lol
jhon walsh I’m on the same page with that!
That was awesome! Can you do you more of this drum and bass tutorial?
Glad you enjoyed it Christopher. I definitely will be doing more d&b tutorials, stay posted.
Great video. Not touched Jungle/hardcore since the 90s. Nice for a revisit using a modern DAW instead of trackers.
This was a excellent video with a lot of great techniques shown, thank you. Really enjoying your teaching style.
I haven’t produced anything since the days of Reason 3. I’m only just now getting back into it, albeit, only for myself. I don’t plan on releasing anything. That said, your series is very easy to understand and follow along with. Thanks for making it illiterate-compatible for dummies like me, bruh!
ha Cheers Tom, I'm glad I could help. Are you using Ableton now?
No, I haven’t decided on which platform to use. It’s between Ableton and FL Studios. Right now I’m just getting any ideas into GarageBand cuz I can’t write music. Any of those ideas that have song potential, I’ll revisit when I’m back up and running. I had to flip what gear I had in ‘08 when I became a single dad. Turntables and all. Yes, it stung as much as it sounds, grumble grumble. My son is an adult now, which lets me start to think about me again lol. Keep up the great work bro!
Legend!! Just watched this first part and learnt so much. Now up to the second part. Big ups!!
glad to hear that!
Really good tutorial Stranjah. I'm switching from a different DAW as I was feeling pretty stagnant using it, and Ableton has been a breath of fresh air. One thing though make sure you point out to remove those ghost slices ableton creates, as when I converted to midi I had about 4 slices of nothing. Also don't try this with a Rex file.
Great choice on using Tighten Up as the layered break. To any aspiring jungle producer use your ears, there your best hardware Nuff respect from the Major, London sides!
thanks for the heads up, yes, to avoid the blank slices, try to use your own warp markers, thats one way around it. bigup!
@@STRANJAH I stand corrected Stranjah. Absolutely nothing wrong with your instructions, I made a blunder on the warp markers during the conversion to midi. Really loving Ableton and it's work flow. Keep up the good work mate!
Well done. You broke down the workflow perfectly.
Thanks Scott!
Dude i've been wanting to find a tutorial like this on amen breaks for months. Thanks so much
Using live 11 suite in 2023 and im very new. Would I be able to use Simpler to automatically slice the tranaients into MIDI?
Hey mate love your videos complete novice here but you have inspired me from just playing tunes to actually making them. I am trying to re-enact your video for the amen breaks and I know this is probably a silly question but I cannot find the section on Ableton you chop the amen up in I can only find "sampler and simpler" however they do not as "user friendly" as what you are using in the video is it a plug in maybe? Sorry if this is a silly question
Could you do one for all different breaks like Apache, think, hotpants
The process is very similar, however, sure why not. I'll do one and show you how I would incorporate such breaks in a track!
@@SerendipityForever that would be great man
Hey there’s a four minute drum solo in the song “inagoddadavida” by iron butterfly, could you make a break from it and make a video of you going through that process?
Nice!
How did Current Value made Dark Rain ? Xx
Thank you so much for this tutorial! You break down everything really concretely in Ableton so I appreciate it!
I love You for all the time and effort and also for sharing Your knowledge.
林老师教得好啊，我打算做Breakcore
Great video. Just a quick question, what would be the best quantize settings to use in this instance?
Nice1!
Great job, quick at getting something to sound good! The last little bit with the bass, is a song on its own. Let that run for 5 min and you have a typical DnB track! =D
Cheers I'm glad you enjoyed it. Oh no DnB isn't that easy, you still have to add edits and variations here and there!
sick video I had a lot of fun experimenting with this, added some filter delays on the snares and it sounded really cool.
Amens are always a good time!
how did you add on just the snares?
Only just found your channel and I'm loving it. You rock Stranjah!
Really smooth walkthrough!
cheers!
Awesome tutorial and thank you so much! I would like to know more about making variations of the break
Wow! Those EQ sweet spots are literally the best production tip for amens ever! No matter how times i tried EQing mine to accentuate different harmonics it always sounded like poop! No more thanks to you, good sir! I hope you get to come back to Montreal soon, it’s been too long!
looking forward to learning from this. thanks stranjah
Your welcome Nick, thanks for watching
Thanks man, this was SUPER useful.... thumbs up!!!!!
Can you tell me who was some of the best producers of the amend break for drum and base or jungle. I love your tutorials. I am a newbie but I am working from Cubase Artist and trying to figure things out.
pretty sure you dont have to loop before cropping. You crop your *selection* , in your case you got your selection when you loop it first but that doesnt mean it isnt an obsolete step. [suite 11 user]
Hi man, i love the tutorials on your channel. i had a question, each time i cut slices of my drum sample into a new midi track. they sound very different/ off beat compared to the original. using quantize only makes it worse. anyone knows how to fix this?
Am I able to chop up the breaks from the Google Drive link and use them in my music on Spotify? Pretty new to all of this.
Yes
Prodigy firestarter break 🤩
These tutorials are great! Could you make the amen sample available again?
Fantastic video, thank you
Awesome Lesson!
sick tutorial
Awesome video !! Thank you...
Hey man! Just wanna say thanks for the spotify play list jungle, choppage, drumfunk. It’s a 💎! Really nice at work keeping in time. Love it. 🙏🏻
Love this. Nit been through all your videos but have you done one on arrangement? I always like to see new ways of arranging tracks and workflow too.
love the simplicity and pace of the turoial, excellent work. not sure waht im doig wrong, but when I change teh tempo (even to 164), my break is much faster than yours. I have the same amen break. Any advice?
That is very odd. Send me a render so I can check it out!
This does not help, but in solidarity that happens to me with other breaks (though more often slowed down).
Do you set the Tempo before or after importing the loop? Tempo should be set first. My first idea.... 🙂
After moving the transient markers, do you need to quantise?
Great introduction to jungle. Thanks a lot, dude.
Just had a thought. If you tricked ableton with a transient designer to really exaggerate the transients. Would ableton recognise the transients that it has missed instead of chopping each one? I don't use this daw but just had an idea.
I think it would work if you then bounce the break with the exaggerated transients to audio and then run it through the process
Great video thanks, have you got a bass video?
Hi Josh, yes I have several videos on bass such as 808, ray keith, reese. Check my library. And let me know if there is anything else you want?
@@STRANJAH Excellent Subscribed!
am struggling with the oldskool 90s strings over piano melodies aswell if your up too the challenge. am new to production but if you type in my name into youtube i have got some good feedback from what ive came up with so far.
Very nice beat mate!
6:51 ❤️ now i am learning it on drums
Stranjah, you're awesome. Your productions, you taking the time to teach, and providing the Amen (which is a mind blowingly awesome thing, to have an Amen provided so we can focus on being creative with it). Really enjoyed the pacing of the video and glad to see you bringing compression into Pt. 2. Keep it up!
Thank you for the kind comment, your feedback is encouraging and keeps me going on!
Thanks for your tutorials !
Hey! This sounds similar to No Eyes by Noose!
how did you learn all this stuff/
im struggling as a 21 year old to even find my groove in music making, i find myself becoming more and more unmotivated and uninspired daily and no idea what to do. i find myself glazing through tutorials and im getting ready to go to school for music technology but what can i do for now? i need some advice
Be patient. Learn one thing at a time. Rome wasn’t built in a day. After a while the knowledge you attained will culminate into brilliance.
Aaah wicked! Been looking for tutorials like this. Would be wicked if you could do one on something similar to the mentasm hoover ;)
Will look into that!
Do you have a video for absolute beginners?
thanks brother
Really helpful. Thank you, sir.
Thank you so much for this tutorial!
Your welcome!
top tutorial thanks for sharing!.
You're welcome!
Amazing tips! Thanks!
great videos mate
Beautyfull thank you so much !
This was excellent and helped me a lot! Thanks.
You're welcome!
thanks, bro I'm going to totally use this.
Anyone know why I don't have the option to slice to new midi track when i right click? (4:14)
Thank you very much for this one ! found this really helpful dude 🙌 looking forward for pt 2 🤗💪
Your welcome, I hope you were able to follow along.
Hi @Stranjah, i was wondering why a lot of producer use thoses samples, its possible to build something like that ? need speed up then ?
thanks for the sample,downloaded
Where can you find drum samples like the one at 11:34? I’m struggling to find hard hitting kick sounds and making my own is quite difficult right now.
loving your channel bro
Glad you enjoy it!
Great teacher !
Thank you!
How do you manage to cut up so clean? Whenever I do it my slices sound flangy and lose all the meat the original break has. I thought it might have been the way I put the markers but that did nothing.
You may have to turn off the Warp mode
Save your transients as a groove to apply to custom Amens.
Yes
Thank you !!! Thank YOU for bringing this back to my memory dude for real. Love you brother #Amen #Abelton #Cyborg_33 🙏🏾💚🥁🥁🥁🥁🤟🏿 #PTSD Sucks
when i convert a break to midi it seems to lose a fair bit of its volume. Can someone please explain?
can anyone hear the machine wine in the amen-best way to get rid of that ?its there when sustain is above -30db…is there a way of removing other than sustain setting?
When i slice my amen drum break sample into midi notes, every time it starts to play a new midi note i get this very annoying clicking noise and i have no idea what's causing it.. anyone have some ideas?
What if I wanna slow a break down to 130 when its originally 160?
It may be possible if your samples tail is long enough
Bro, what should I do if the option of slicing into a midi track doesn't appear?
Make sure you've got the audio clip's warp box checked, should work then!
It doesn't give me a slice to midi option at all
Looks like the Amen file was deleted. Any chance of getting it uploaded again?
tinyurl.com/stranjah-breaks
@@STRANJAH man thanks so much. I’m out of town until next week. Going to grab these when I get home
Dude u are awesome :D
And i saw u were on the decks with Gremlinz, much wow sir :O
it is very useful brother!
glad you found it useful!
Hi and thanks , how much did u take out of the amens low end? 100hz?
Awesome!! btw, can you make the amen break sample downloadable again on soundcloud?
Sure i'll have to put it on dropbox, my SC has been downgraded to no-paid account: www.dropbox.com/s/eb08xlnj39cp3jq/AmenVN_4barOrig.wav?dl=0
Awesome video 🔥
you are the best ! thank you !!
Where's the dancing and toasts? That's all I'm interested in.
I get clicking in between my warp slices. sounds like the sample is overlapping between the cuts. Any idea how I can fix this?
Same thing was happening to me. You can mess around with the sample beginning and end on the waveform within drum rack. It seems to be any sample that comes before a hi hat. I thought altering the hihat sound would fix it but I had to alter the sample before it, I think they are mostly snare samples, depends how you sliced it. You can also try shortening or lengthening the midi note on the piano roll.
Replying to own post 😐Been messing around with this for a few days... When you select slice to MIDI it automatically puts the samples into "Classic Mode" whereas "1-Shot" is more suitable for drums. With a small fade in and out on each pad (you can just use right click copy to all siblings to save time) the clicks have disappeared and you dont need to mess with the waveform.
When I slice to midi, I lose a ton of volume on the break. Any solution to this?
Turn up the volume knob for slice. Then “right click copy setting to siblings”. Or just add Utility effect and bump gain
@@STRANJAH thank you sir
Very helpful!
Cheers brova