The problem with pitching down AFTER you’ve EQ’d anything is that through pitching you are naturally lowering the frequencies in the audio source - meaning your perfected cuts & notches and now going to be hitting unwanted frequencies. Luckily Stranjah liked the original key of his Amen break but for anyone who likes to try transposing after composition & EQ’ing as part of the creating process - make sure you bounce your EQ’d track down as audio in its original key first before committing to key changes. That way when you THEN transpose the audio, the changes you made during Equalisation will not translate into unwanted frequency territory. If you were using something like an 808 Kick drum and multiple notes are playing in your loop - something like Surfer EQ can be handy. I find when sound designing - apply your processing to the original sample then bouncing down into audio is the simplest method. Just a heads up for people, also ALWAYS make a *filename*v2 project when you begin tinkering with stuff that moves you sideways from where you left off! That way if you make mistakes you can go back to how it was before you got lost. Nice vid Stranjah!
thanks for the tip, also this seems like it could be avoided by deciding on a pitch before EQing right? seems like it would be tedious to place warp markers, slice to midi, do all that processing, only to have to bounce to audio and repeat the entire process just bc you want the pitch changed
Thank you so much for this video. I've looked through many and this is by far the most comprehensive Ableton beginner tutorial on how to make Jungle. I'm new to Ableton and this has helped me immensely. Big respect for sharing the knowledge. Thanks man!!
Finally managed to find a couple of days to sit down and work through these epic amen tutorials .... having so much fun and i've not even thought about bass yet ... best channel on youtube, great content 👏
Dude you single handedly have carried me through my first days of production! You seriously have a video for every aspect of this stuff. You honestly deserve a lot more subs
There are many Ableton tutorials on YT. Moustly nothing special. But this is very special.. You are the best! Clear and helpfull informations. Also your DnB tutorials are fantastic. Many thanks for sharig and great inspiration.
man ur tutorails are ten times better than most peoples i love the way u explain things inn detail so even the fresh spawns can understand awsome stuff keep it up
Stranjah, you're awesome. Your productions, you taking the time to teach, and providing the Amen (which is a mind blowingly awesome thing, to have an Amen provided so we can focus on being creative with it). Really enjoyed the pacing of the video and glad to see you bringing compression into Pt. 2. Keep it up!
Nice1! Great job, quick at getting something to sound good! The last little bit with the bass, is a song on its own. Let that run for 5 min and you have a typical DnB track! =D
I haven’t produced anything since the days of Reason 3. I’m only just now getting back into it, albeit, only for myself. I don’t plan on releasing anything. That said, your series is very easy to understand and follow along with. Thanks for making it illiterate-compatible for dummies like me, bruh!
No, I haven’t decided on which platform to use. It’s between Ableton and FL Studios. Right now I’m just getting any ideas into GarageBand cuz I can’t write music. Any of those ideas that have song potential, I’ll revisit when I’m back up and running. I had to flip what gear I had in ‘08 when I became a single dad. Turntables and all. Yes, it stung as much as it sounds, grumble grumble. My son is an adult now, which lets me start to think about me again lol. Keep up the great work bro!
Really good tutorial Stranjah. I'm switching from a different DAW as I was feeling pretty stagnant using it, and Ableton has been a breath of fresh air. One thing though make sure you point out to remove those ghost slices ableton creates, as when I converted to midi I had about 4 slices of nothing. Also don't try this with a Rex file. Great choice on using Tighten Up as the layered break. To any aspiring jungle producer use your ears, there your best hardware Nuff respect from the Major, London sides!
@@STRANJAH I stand corrected Stranjah. Absolutely nothing wrong with your instructions, I made a blunder on the warp markers during the conversion to midi. Really loving Ableton and it's work flow. Keep up the good work mate!
Hey mate love your videos complete novice here but you have inspired me from just playing tunes to actually making them. I am trying to re-enact your video for the amen breaks and I know this is probably a silly question but I cannot find the section on Ableton you chop the amen up in I can only find "sampler and simpler" however they do not as "user friendly" as what you are using in the video is it a plug in maybe? Sorry if this is a silly question
Hi man, i love the tutorials on your channel. i had a question, each time i cut slices of my drum sample into a new midi track. they sound very different/ off beat compared to the original. using quantize only makes it worse. anyone knows how to fix this?
Can you tell me who was some of the best producers of the amend break for drum and base or jungle. I love your tutorials. I am a newbie but I am working from Cubase Artist and trying to figure things out.
Hey there’s a four minute drum solo in the song “inagoddadavida” by iron butterfly, could you make a break from it and make a video of you going through that process?
Wow! Those EQ sweet spots are literally the best production tip for amens ever! No matter how times i tried EQing mine to accentuate different harmonics it always sounded like poop! No more thanks to you, good sir! I hope you get to come back to Montreal soon, it’s been too long!
can anyone hear the machine wine in the amen-best way to get rid of that ?its there when sustain is above -30db…is there a way of removing other than sustain setting?
love the simplicity and pace of the turoial, excellent work. not sure waht im doig wrong, but when I change teh tempo (even to 164), my break is much faster than yours. I have the same amen break. Any advice?
When Dragging the break onto an audio channel in Abelton, The Seg. Bpm value which is supposed to be calculated by Abelton is just set to the project BPM every time i do this. instead of being set to an estimation of the BPM? Is there a quick fix for this? or a setting i'm missing? This has been really frustrating for a while as I've had to use external software to calculate the bpm of audio files i drag into Abelton.
am struggling with the oldskool 90s strings over piano melodies aswell if your up too the challenge. am new to production but if you type in my name into youtube i have got some good feedback from what ive came up with so far.
hey! i'm very new to ableton and creating my own breaks (that's why i'm here ha) but when i transform my markers into midi they don't entirely go together and sound very choppy/even reversed sounding. any tips?
That is odd, make sure you are choosing "Create one slice per warp markers". Other than that, make sure you're tempo is fast enough to catch the ends of each slice. Also Ableton does a weird Looping thing to slices, you have to go to the macros and turn the Loop Length counter-clockwise until it is off.
@@STRANJAH this is my exact problem and puts me off slicing to midi. can i download like a preset / template macro set-up for slicing? i could never seem to get the chopped loop sounding normal.
When i slice my amen drum break sample into midi notes, every time it starts to play a new midi note i get this very annoying clicking noise and i have no idea what's causing it.. anyone have some ideas?
How do you manage to cut up so clean? Whenever I do it my slices sound flangy and lose all the meat the original break has. I thought it might have been the way I put the markers but that did nothing.
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Just in case anyone finds this useful, you can move transient markers around by holding shift, clicking & dragging
Dinosaur Hunter ayy! Actual useful, thank you
man i spent 4 hours trying to figure that out. thank you !
DUUUUDE thank you
Thank you. Truly
wow!
The problem with pitching down AFTER you’ve EQ’d anything is that through pitching you are naturally lowering the frequencies in the audio source - meaning your perfected cuts & notches and now going to be hitting unwanted frequencies. Luckily Stranjah liked the original key of his Amen break but for anyone who likes to try transposing after composition & EQ’ing as part of the creating process - make sure you bounce your EQ’d track down as audio in its original key first before committing to key changes. That way when you THEN transpose the audio, the changes you made during Equalisation will not translate into unwanted frequency territory. If you were using something like an 808 Kick drum and multiple notes are playing in your loop - something like Surfer EQ can be handy. I find when sound designing - apply your processing to the original sample then bouncing down into audio is the simplest method. Just a heads up for people, also ALWAYS make a *filename*v2 project when you begin tinkering with stuff that moves you sideways from where you left off! That way if you make mistakes you can go back to how it was before you got lost. Nice vid Stranjah!
thanks for the tip, also this seems like it could be avoided by deciding on a pitch before EQing right? seems like it would be tedious to place warp markers, slice to midi, do all that processing, only to have to bounce to audio and repeat the entire process just bc you want the pitch changed
I have learned more about making beats in the last week of obsessing over your channel then the entire last 10 years...
preserving the swing by selecting and moving two midi notes is blowing my mind. SUCH an elegant trick.
Thank you so much for this tutorial! You break down everything really concretely in Ableton so I appreciate it!
Thank you so much for this video. I've looked through many and this is by far the most comprehensive Ableton beginner tutorial on how to make Jungle. I'm new to Ableton and this has helped me immensely. Big respect for sharing the knowledge. Thanks man!!
Dude i've been wanting to find a tutorial like this on amen breaks for months. Thanks so much
Finally managed to find a couple of days to sit down and work through these epic amen tutorials .... having so much fun and i've not even thought about bass yet ... best channel on youtube, great content 👏
Dude you single handedly have carried me through my first days of production! You seriously have a video for every aspect of this stuff. You honestly deserve a lot more subs
There are many Ableton tutorials on YT. Moustly nothing special. But this is very special.. You are the best! Clear and helpfull informations. Also your DnB tutorials are fantastic. Many thanks for sharig and great inspiration.
Only just found your channel and I'm loving it. You rock Stranjah!
man ur tutorails are ten times better than most peoples i love the way u explain things inn detail so even the fresh spawns can understand awsome stuff keep it up
This was a excellent video with a lot of great techniques shown, thank you. Really enjoying your teaching style.
Hey man! Just wanna say thanks for the spotify play list jungle, choppage, drumfunk. It’s a 💎! Really nice at work keeping in time. Love it. 🙏🏻
I love You for all the time and effort and also for sharing Your knowledge.
Just upgraded to Live 11 Suite with a Push 3. Day 1 was great, Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm hooked on this channel! 🤖
Legend!! Just watched this first part and learnt so much. Now up to the second part. Big ups!!
glad to hear that!
Well done. You broke down the workflow perfectly.
Thanks Scott!
Stranjah is the man. Well knows his stuff. Respek!
Awesome tutorial and thank you so much! I would like to know more about making variations of the break
Great introduction to jungle. Thanks a lot, dude.
Thank you very much for this one ! found this really helpful dude 🙌 looking forward for pt 2 🤗💪
Your welcome, I hope you were able to follow along.
Thanks for your tutorials !
looking forward to learning from this. thanks stranjah
Your welcome Nick, thanks for watching
Really smooth walkthrough!
cheers!
Great video. Not touched Jungle/hardcore since the 90s. Nice for a revisit using a modern DAW instead of trackers.
Fantastic video, thank you
Really helpful. Thank you, sir.
thanks, bro I'm going to totally use this.
Amazing tips! Thanks!
Thanks man, this was SUPER useful.... thumbs up!!!!!
Thank you so much for this tutorial!
Your welcome!
Awesome video !! Thank you...
This was excellent and helped me a lot! Thanks.
You're welcome!
That was awesome! Can you do you more of this drum and bass tutorial?
Glad you enjoyed it Christopher. I definitely will be doing more d&b tutorials, stay posted.
Awesome Lesson!
Stranjah, you're awesome. Your productions, you taking the time to teach, and providing the Amen (which is a mind blowingly awesome thing, to have an Amen provided so we can focus on being creative with it). Really enjoyed the pacing of the video and glad to see you bringing compression into Pt. 2. Keep it up!
Thank you for the kind comment, your feedback is encouraging and keeps me going on!
Your channel is a gem, you should have more subs, but I'm glad you don't at the same time because these tips are too fire
hahah thanks man!
Totally agree
Let's capture him so the secrets will be ours only 👏😂
yo ifeel like this is the channel u dont tell ur mates about and keep it a secret lol
jhon walsh I’m on the same page with that!
great videos mate
Beautyfull thank you so much !
thanks for the sample,downloaded
Very nice beat mate!
sick tutorial
Awesome video 🔥
loving your channel bro
Glad you enjoy it!
sick video I had a lot of fun experimenting with this, added some filter delays on the snares and it sounded really cool.
Amens are always a good time!
how did you add on just the snares?
Amazing video 👍🏽
you are the best ! thank you !!
Love this. Nit been through all your videos but have you done one on arrangement? I always like to see new ways of arranging tracks and workflow too.
These tutorials are great! Could you make the amen sample available again?
Nice1!
Great job, quick at getting something to sound good! The last little bit with the bass, is a song on its own. Let that run for 5 min and you have a typical DnB track! =D
Cheers I'm glad you enjoyed it. Oh no DnB isn't that easy, you still have to add edits and variations here and there!
6:51 ❤️ now i am learning it on drums
thanx... You helped a lot
Great teacher !
Thank you!
top tutorial thanks for sharing!.
You're welcome!
Dude u are awesome :D
And i saw u were on the decks with Gremlinz, much wow sir :O
Prodigy firestarter break 🤩
thanks brother
Very helpful!
Cheers brova
amazing, thank you
it is very useful brother!
glad you found it useful!
Aaah wicked! Been looking for tutorials like this. Would be wicked if you could do one on something similar to the mentasm hoover ;)
Will look into that!
林老师教得好啊，我打算做Breakcore
amazing
I haven’t produced anything since the days of Reason 3. I’m only just now getting back into it, albeit, only for myself. I don’t plan on releasing anything. That said, your series is very easy to understand and follow along with. Thanks for making it illiterate-compatible for dummies like me, bruh!
ha Cheers Tom, I'm glad I could help. Are you using Ableton now?
No, I haven’t decided on which platform to use. It’s between Ableton and FL Studios. Right now I’m just getting any ideas into GarageBand cuz I can’t write music. Any of those ideas that have song potential, I’ll revisit when I’m back up and running. I had to flip what gear I had in ‘08 when I became a single dad. Turntables and all. Yes, it stung as much as it sounds, grumble grumble. My son is an adult now, which lets me start to think about me again lol. Keep up the great work bro!
Thank you !!! Thank YOU for bringing this back to my memory dude for real. Love you brother #Amen #Abelton #Cyborg_33 🙏🏾💚🥁🥁🥁🥁🤟🏿 #PTSD Sucks
Great video. Just a quick question, what would be the best quantize settings to use in this instance?
Really good tutorial Stranjah. I'm switching from a different DAW as I was feeling pretty stagnant using it, and Ableton has been a breath of fresh air. One thing though make sure you point out to remove those ghost slices ableton creates, as when I converted to midi I had about 4 slices of nothing. Also don't try this with a Rex file.
Great choice on using Tighten Up as the layered break. To any aspiring jungle producer use your ears, there your best hardware Nuff respect from the Major, London sides!
thanks for the heads up, yes, to avoid the blank slices, try to use your own warp markers, thats one way around it. bigup!
@@STRANJAH I stand corrected Stranjah. Absolutely nothing wrong with your instructions, I made a blunder on the warp markers during the conversion to midi. Really loving Ableton and it's work flow. Keep up the good work mate!
wicked
Thanks
Welcome!
sick :D
cheers!
Hey mate love your videos complete novice here but you have inspired me from just playing tunes to actually making them. I am trying to re-enact your video for the amen breaks and I know this is probably a silly question but I cannot find the section on Ableton you chop the amen up in I can only find "sampler and simpler" however they do not as "user friendly" as what you are using in the video is it a plug in maybe? Sorry if this is a silly question
quality!
cheers!
Hi man, i love the tutorials on your channel. i had a question, each time i cut slices of my drum sample into a new midi track. they sound very different/ off beat compared to the original. using quantize only makes it worse. anyone knows how to fix this?
Can you tell me who was some of the best producers of the amend break for drum and base or jungle. I love your tutorials. I am a newbie but I am working from Cubase Artist and trying to figure things out.
Hey there’s a four minute drum solo in the song “inagoddadavida” by iron butterfly, could you make a break from it and make a video of you going through that process?
Nice!
How did Current Value made Dark Rain ? Xx
Hi and thanks , how much did u take out of the amens low end? 100hz?
Wow! Those EQ sweet spots are literally the best production tip for amens ever! No matter how times i tried EQing mine to accentuate different harmonics it always sounded like poop! No more thanks to you, good sir! I hope you get to come back to Montreal soon, it’s been too long!
Hey! This sounds similar to No Eyes by Noose!
After moving the transient markers, do you need to quantise?
Hi @Stranjah, i was wondering why a lot of producer use thoses samples, its possible to build something like that ? need speed up then ?
Save your transients as a groove to apply to custom Amens.
Yes
YOU FUCKING BLESSED, IVE BEEN TRYIKG TO FIGURE THIS OUT OM MY OWN FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS. Thanks for the time save lol 7:33
can anyone hear the machine wine in the amen-best way to get rid of that ?its there when sustain is above -30db…is there a way of removing other than sustain setting?
Using live 11 suite in 2023 and im very new. Would I be able to use Simpler to automatically slice the tranaients into MIDI?
Where can you find drum samples like the one at 11:34? I’m struggling to find hard hitting kick sounds and making my own is quite difficult right now.
Love✌️
love the simplicity and pace of the turoial, excellent work. not sure waht im doig wrong, but when I change teh tempo (even to 164), my break is much faster than yours. I have the same amen break. Any advice?
That is very odd. Send me a render so I can check it out!
This does not help, but in solidarity that happens to me with other breaks (though more often slowed down).
Do you set the Tempo before or after importing the loop? Tempo should be set first. My first idea.... 🙂
It doesn't give me a slice to midi option at all
Awesome!! btw, can you make the amen break sample downloadable again on soundcloud?
Sure i'll have to put it on dropbox, my SC has been downgraded to no-paid account: www.dropbox.com/s/eb08xlnj39cp3jq/AmenVN_4barOrig.wav?dl=0
Could you do one for all different breaks like Apache, think, hotpants
The process is very similar, however, sure why not. I'll do one and show you how I would incorporate such breaks in a track!
@@SerendipityForever that would be great man
When I slice to midi, the new sample sounds a lot quieter than the original. Is it suppose to be like that?
When Dragging the break onto an audio channel in Abelton, The Seg. Bpm value which is supposed to be calculated by Abelton is just set to the project BPM every time i do this. instead of being set to an estimation of the BPM? Is there a quick fix for this? or a setting i'm missing? This has been really frustrating for a while as I've had to use external software to calculate the bpm of audio files i drag into Abelton.
I’m pretty sure if you un-warp the segment it returns to its original bpm
when i convert a break to midi it seems to lose a fair bit of its volume. Can someone please explain?
Am I able to chop up the breaks from the Google Drive link and use them in my music on Spotify? Pretty new to all of this.
Yes
Great video thanks, have you got a bass video?
Hi Josh, yes I have several videos on bass such as 808, ray keith, reese. Check my library. And let me know if there is anything else you want?
@@STRANJAH Excellent Subscribed!
am struggling with the oldskool 90s strings over piano melodies aswell if your up too the challenge. am new to production but if you type in my name into youtube i have got some good feedback from what ive came up with so far.
hey! i'm very new to ableton and creating my own breaks (that's why i'm here ha) but when i transform my markers into midi they don't entirely go together and sound very choppy/even reversed sounding. any tips?
That is odd, make sure you are choosing "Create one slice per warp markers". Other than that, make sure you're tempo is fast enough to catch the ends of each slice. Also Ableton does a weird Looping thing to slices, you have to go to the macros and turn the Loop Length counter-clockwise until it is off.
@@STRANJAH this is my exact problem and puts me off slicing to midi. can i download like a preset / template macro set-up for slicing? i could never seem to get the chopped loop sounding normal.
@@STRANJAH I had the loop issue, this comment here has saved me. Thank you so much!
When i slice my amen drum break sample into midi notes, every time it starts to play a new midi note i get this very annoying clicking noise and i have no idea what's causing it.. anyone have some ideas?
How do you manage to cut up so clean? Whenever I do it my slices sound flangy and lose all the meat the original break has. I thought it might have been the way I put the markers but that did nothing.
You may have to turn off the Warp mode