I don’t understand why they made and are making content no one wants. Like, at this point, they’re burning money to spite fans and drive established fans away. I was a super fan and now I really couldn’t care less about anything Star Wars.
The point from the executive class is to make progressives look bad by giving conservatives something bad to point at and say "see, this is what woke ideas give us". The executives at Disney don't care if Trump wins because if he does he's already promised them as a wealth class *massive* tax breaks.
Most of them are at their positions due to political opinions and DEI, not because of their talent. As hacks (KK and Filoni included) they are unable to judge quality. They don't see the problems with these shows. Just like most other amateur writers who don't see the problems with their script.
@@Ihavethetouch That's no reason to not make high quality shows. They could do both, put lots of identity politics in them while making them decent. The problems with these shows are much more than just the woke parts.
One thing that bothers me about Disney Star Wars that isn’t discussed much is how strangely amoral it feels. Lucas Star Wars always had a clear moral theme and the new stuff either seems to step on it or ignore it. In the OT it’s clearly shown using anger for power is wrong (most clearly when Luke beats Vader with it but then tosses his saber to reject the emperor ion ROTJ) and the good guys win through their friendship, but in ST Rey uses rage in most of her fights and never suffers from it as though it’s a good thing that she just angrily overpowers everyone. In the OT Han Solo shows maturity before he gets into a relationship with Leia as he needed to grow up and have some values, whereas in the acolyte Osha is attracted to the murderous and manipulative Qimir and it’s portrayed as a fulfilling event. It’s just bizarre, it’s like the writers are snarking portraying themselves as more moral than the original creators through hamfisted politics and vapid diversity but the actual core message their stuff gets across is the opposite.
In Disney Star Wars, all men are portrayed as week, mostly useless and in need of feminine guidance, always. To the point where a Jedi Master, former general, war hero and council member, need a ten years old girl to tell him what to do😮💨. So, women should be portrayed as super beings by comparison but instead, they are shown to be murderous, lying, disloyal, manipulative and treacherous, but they are still the heroes of the story and all their actions are justified. So yeah, it's clear that the persons that make this kind of story are highly immoral people.
I don't think they understand SW. For example, making Qimir/Osha the 'misunderstood' heroes is silly as the goal of the Sith ideology is dictatorship and space-fascism i.e., what the Empire is in the OT. Disney seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Jedi and Sith are meant to represent. Or they get it and the writers have questionable morals. 😅
There's been a long running natural cycle in entertainment that swings back and forth between stories of clear black/white morality and morally gray. However some where along the line we transitioned to just the acceptance of immorality. Somehow people can't distinguish with characters being the hero of their own story and being actually heroic.
I think you just summed up why I really never got into Andor. I know it's a more realistic look at how rebellions work, but I really didn't feel like there was a good dude to root for. Sure the Empire did horrible things in the show, but it was in response to borderline terrorist activities. Saw, Luthen, and Andor are all fairly self serving and only work together because of a shared hatred. Jen Erso says rebellions are built on hope, but all Andor shows is that rebellions are built on hate and a desire to shift power.
@@flatline8580 you would think they would use Luke, Leia, R2 or 3P0 in the Disney Castle imagery. I mean this is Disney after all, the champion of goodness.
Funny enough, there was a similar problem with Ahsoka. The good guys only survived because Thrawn made awful decisions multiple times. But it's like the saying goes, a character can only be as smart as the one that wrote them.
This is Disney we are talking about. To face the reality of the situation, they would have to admit to themselves they might have been wrong and we all know that can't happen. So they will just double down.
Marvel sounds like they’re changing course. So there is a chance. That said, it won’t happen so long as KK is at the helm and I wouldn’t let Filoni near her office either. We’ll see. Maybe at some point they’ll get tired of losing money.
@@YegRon Filoni isn’t the problem. Get used to him being in charge of LucasFilm when it comes because the Grifters online can’t use their apathy as an excuse forever.
Lightsaber fights, space battles etc. are the topping on the cake, characters and story are the cake. If the cake is shit, the topping doesn't matter much.
I have no empathy for people who bashed Andor because "It's not Star Wars,there are no Jedi ,Sith, the force and Lightsaber fights" You got all of that in the Acolyte and well.... Be careful what you wish for.
idk. a movie like rogue one for example didn't have the best characters or a super unique story however its shoot outs and space battles were great enough to carry the entire movie. with that being said, rogue one was shot more as a WAR movie with initially a war movie director and less of what a normal star wars movie would have been shot as. not to say your points entirely wrong or anything but that something that doesn't that follow that archetype can certainly still be successful with the write ingredients added
@@rmw9420 You can have a mediocre cake with an excellent topping, that's ok. Rogue One is exactly that. Nothing wrong with that. Could it have been better, absolutely, but it's still the best Disney Star Wars movie by a mile.
@@kingrubbatiti1285 I have not seen Andor, but I bet I would like it, but I can't enjoy anything Star Wars anymore, because it's the same universe where you have the Holdo Maneuver, a somehow returning emperor and whatever the Acolyte is. They could make 10 great Andor seasons, but I don't think I would watch them.
@@Lt_RikAndor is before all that crap, you can easily just ignore the Disney sequels. It’s what I do. It’s pretty easy to ignore the bad stuff in Star Wars and just see things like Andor, the original trilogy and a few others as the canon. Obi wan and the acolyte are also easily ignored and don’t matter one bit in the canon.
I noticed that Mae used a life Scanner on a ship to find Sol and Osha on Brandok, but 16 yrs earlier The Jedi used Metal Dectectors and other scanning device. and the didn't notice the witches there in 7 weeks
@rafikshaheed4271 then why would Mother Anaseya would willingly surrender her daughter to the Jedi after a brief visit if they used magic to make sure they don't want to be found 🤔
George Lucas once said that special effects are used to enhance a story and he couldn't be more right. Without good writing, characters and world building it means nothing. JJ Abrams made probably the best looking Star Wars movie with Rise of Skywalker and Noone likes that shit
Plus keep in mind, when he was working on The Prequels, what Disney is doing is exactly what he said would happen if they had control over the franchise. It's why Ep2&3 were funded by him. The Fox Excutives kept pressuring him to make The Prequels like The Originals. Even suggesting he have another Death Star appear.
All our fears pre-release were proven right and worse. It was always going to be DOA. They did a 180 million fanfic project to confirm they have no clue how Star Wars works.
It's hilarious because I've managed to drag 2 friends who aren't star wars fans (but do enjoy watching and analysing films/shows) to watch this with me, and they are almost verbatim giving the exact same criticism that the show has been receiving; it's boring, nothing happens, the dialogue is terrible, the acting is wooden, fire in space, telling a character their own backstory, weird new items (cortosis helmet). It's just a bad show
What frustrates me most about the people defending disney star wars isn't that they like something I don't. They have every right to enjoy somewhat mediocre to outright bad writing just used as a vehicle to drive pretty looking fight scenes. I have my guilty pleasures too. A lot of people don't admit that is all they care about in star wars, the ones that do are relatively rare and I tend to actually respect those people. It is the people that try and act like I am a bad person for wanting well written, compelling stories with coherent lore in a francise I have loved for as long as I have had conscious thoughts that I have an issue with. The acolyte seems to draw this kind of person in so specifically for whatever reason. I might just be weird, but even in franchises I can acknowledge are just objectively bad but I still watch for the spectacle I care that the lore remains internally consistent without being retconned constantly for no, or in some cases just a terrible, reason.
I was struggling for the words to describe my issue with Disney Star Wars Defenders, but you have put it quite sustinctly. It seems like some people have attached their identity to liking Star Wars, so they take a critique of Star Wars as a critique on themselves and respond with Ad Hominem.
I'll sometimes watch the channel, Generation Tech. The defenders over there are a whole ass new breed. The comment section is littered with blind praise for The Acolyte and cultish praise for the content creator, while simultaneously attacking, like a swarm of wasps, ANY criticisms of EITHER. If you ever feel like disturbing the nest to have a little laugh, I cautiously recommend it.
@@rawnchydeard4669Fans could make something with just as good choreography with a fraction of that budget. Just look at Godzilla Minus One to see what can be done with a modest budget.
Tired of defenders that use the prequel hate as a excuse to defend why the acolyte is unjustifiably criticized and that it is the same thing as it was back then. This show had all the time and money to make sure it wouldn't divide an audience, the fking INTERNET exists, Raw and clear data for the company to analyse and make sure to make something that appeals/unifies a fandom?!!! BUT NO the current employees working there either are so oblivious and unqualified to see that or they are qualified and fucking aware & actually want to divide which they have proven over the years where PRODUCT is more important than respecting a legacy.
@@Deuteromis I don’t have the energy to engage in bad faith arguments with him. Imagine defending a multinational corporation that doesn’t care about you with your free time and not get paid for it. It is amusing.
Star Wars is just another IP now. It gets no benefit of the doubt from the general public. Disney doesn’t realize it’s going to take actual work at all levels-writing, editing, character, action, sfx, shared narrative l-to make successful SW product, unlike 25 years ago.
My ten year old son who had no preconceived notions turned off the first episode half way through and said, “Dad they made the Jedi so stupid, I don’t want to watch this”
Disney doesn’t even have Characters, they have plot servants that shapeshift into what ever is the most convenient to push the story forward in the least consistent and lamest ways possible. It is mind boggling how many plot holes are in this show and how often the plot servant’s entirely change their pov/motivations from the slightest pushback. The Beauty of the OT is accepting people for who they are looking at Chewy, the Droids, Vader. Luke trying to save his father and his father self sacrificing in a believable way to atone for his horrendous atrocities. Star Wars has always been a sort of ‘woke’ ideology but it’s not as obvious, extreme, Its immersive. Star Wars is just the shit around the story. The Ships and Lightsabers don’t make Star Wars. Star Wars is about doing the right thing. Thats what made it so special.. at least to me. But Hey I only grew up on Star Wars for the last 20 years, as long as I can remember but hey what the fuck do I know. I just want my Heros back. I never had adults to look up too, it was always “what would luke do”, “What would Qui Gon do”. Disney won’t get me to watch a movie, I’m just not interested, anything Rey. Fuck Rey. That was Lukes job. Also I want to add The power of George, the power of Disney, the POWERRR OFFF HEADD CAAANNNONNNNN
@@achaudhari101 I should have clarified I meant Acolyte. I enjoyed Andor and Rogue one a ton. Some of Mando is good. Grew up on the Animated Clone Wars show, but those things aren’t enough to make up for what they did to the OT. Boba Fett I coped, Obi Wan I coped hard asf, Ahsoka was… disappointing as hell coming from a huge Ashoka fan, and this show was the breaking point.
Yeah. Every story writing tip I've heard has said the CHARACTERS drive the plot forwards. Every stupid decision a character makes in the Acolshyte is because the plot (Aka the writer) demanded it. The character's don't feel like they have a will of their own. But, that's the trick, Fictional character's DON'T have a will of their own because they are fake. It's up to the storyteller to TRICK the audience's perception of disbelief into believing what they are seeing or hearing could plausibly be real people. In order to do that, I think one needs to be able to think a lot like other people, and have a basic sense of empathy. But modern writers like Leslie Headland are so far up their own gender fluid posterior that all they can see is themselves in everything else.
@@achaudhari101 Not even half, full on, when you have a person like Critkal who is a not really a Star Wars fan point out exactly why the show is bad. And he even approached the show as if it wasn't a Star Wars show.
Haven’t watched at all, and in fact unsubscribed from D+ some months ago. It obviously wasn’t made for me so I’ll pass. Given the reports of the quality and its treatment of lore I’m satisfied my decision was the right one.
Hey Thor, did watching The Acolyte/other recent Disney Star Wars diminish your love for the brand. For me personally, I haven’t watched this show. In fact, I vehemently refuse due to multiple reasons. But in recent times, I’ve found the more Disney Star Wars I consume, the more I disassociate from it and become more jaded. This isn’t the Star Wars I fell in love with as a child. Nor is it the Star Wars I choose to immerse myself in. It was an elective choice I know, but the first time I’ve passed on a Star Wars series. I have a hard time picturing myself getting excited for future Star Wars content. What about you?
This was something I noticed with Andor. So many people said they weren’t watching it because of Kenobi. Now I’m sort of amazed given everything known about both shows before they aired that people couldn’t discern Kenobi would likely be awful while Andor stood a chance to be good (and turned out to be excellent).
Here's another way to restate that last comment. House of the Dragon: Characters decisions and actions are consistent with each character's personality, motivations and the information they have at the time. The Acolyte: Characters can make decisions and take actions without any discernable reason and often contradicting what the same character has done before or stated what they want to do, so the writers can push the story in the direction they want it to go. Simplified version House of the Dragon: The characters serve the story. The Acolyte: The characters serve the writers whims and agenda.
Disney could have given us great/good content from the start. They already had a full library of lore. The EU is not perfect and Disney could literally have taken a year or two to go through it to keep the good, and toss out or improve the bad. Even mix in Lucas's idea for the Sequels in the mix. But no, they saw a cash cow and had to milk it from the start and focused on profit instead of quality.
@@jamesmunn576 if it were capitalism, then they would have made stuff thats actually profitable. No company that was simply interested in revenue would have placed ideologues in charge.
@@ahnok2855 Capitalism prioritizes short term gains over any sort of longevity. Get as much money as you can and damn all the consequences; that's the next guy's problem. People like to imagine that it's incompetence that makes terrible rushed projects rather than the calculated and planned reality it often is. The goal is not to make quality content because that is expensive. The goal is to find out how to cut corners and make the consumer pay more for less, and do it repeatedly. This is terrible in the long run and completely illogical on a grand scale, but by the time those consequences are being seen the people actually responsible have gotten their pay and are comfortably out the door to ruin something else. That's just how Capitalism works
@@rovelfox7832 Not necessarily. Nothing in capitalism focuses inherently on short-term gain. You can still be capitalist with long-term goals. Be it as it may, disney screwed up short-term too so it doesn't really matter who's correct on this.
Sfx? See Andor. Good writing? Andor. Interesting characters with logical motivations? Andor. Kennedy can commission quality. Why she commissions dull, boring and poorly written shows like Acolyte and whatever Boba Fett was…I’d love to know.
Ironically Andor is also not the greatest SW, it is SW written with BSG style, good fiction, but not great IP recognition. It was however written by writers who understood how to keep ego at bay to write good story, not write an escalating plot and keep the universe grounded.
@@michaellane5381For me it fits perfectly (along with Rogue One) telling the story of the rise of the rebellion. I think it is totally Star Wars. After season two of Andor you will have an arc of nine complete, related live action Star Wars stories. Forgetting the sequels and the other D+ stuff. Just my opinion. It works for me.
@@timothychapman269 it fits capably, but it is already clearly leading into the sequels and the terrible writing that got there. It's like hiring Tolkien to fill in Telletubi lore, he could probably do it, but it would never make the entire show some perfect opus
@@michaellane5381 how does Andor lead into the sequels. If you say that then A New Hope leads into the sequels which is a crazy statement. Andor and Rogue One lead into A New Hope and end at Return of the Jedi. That's it, that's where Star Wars ends for me.
I’ve scoured all corners of the Film/TV review community on RUclips for opinions on The Acolyte, and even channels that are more inclined to like the direction this show was going didn’t think it was executed well. If viewers that agree with your message were still disappointed with your show, I don’t know who is left to actually support it.
“If its not working, well then they werent the right audience. Keep pushing out the product till the _right audience_ finds it and agrees with it.” -someone at disney probably
I believe I can tell where all of the re-shoots were cut into the original story. Where the story flips for no reason is a good indication of a reshoot. For example, May and Dime Bag Ezra are wandering through the forest to off the wookie. For no reason, May says she is going to turn herself in to the Jedi, that is an inserted reshoot. The biggest and most glaring reshoot is the tracker rat ripping out the space ship wiring.
I think the higher ups at Disney have to step in. Kathleen Kennedys vision leads to nowwhere and her fight with their own fanbase is fruitless. Star wars is in the worst state ever. Kathleen Kennedy won't leave on her own, therefore Bob Iger is expected to do something about it.
Feels like how the empire came into power... A sound of applause welcoming it in thinking it was good... And then the awkward period where you see the signs of something wrong... And now we have been left within the unpleasant truth that those who came into power care nothing for what the original vision or meaning was.
Your point about special effects no longer special raises an intriguing point, at this point I think the more exciting prospect would be a return to the days of matte paintings, models, miniatures, and stop-motion animation wedded to a worthwhile story.
I realize the most writers/directors take inspiration from other places; characters in books, movies, TV, etc. But the more that we hear about Headland's inspirations, all she talks about is taking them from other things she has seen. It's like she can't have a new thought of her own. Yord was a AD&D character, for example. That makes sense on so many levels, from his AD&D name 'Yord' to the way he acted. As one who played AD&D for years (and was a DM for much of it) I can say with nearly complete certainty that Yord was a Paladin. I had friends who HATED paladins and always wanted to portray them as do goody-goody idiots. I used to drive DMs crazy by mostly playing paladins. But I recognize the biased view of paladins and Yord seemed to fit that stereotype perfectly. Arrogant, stupid, brave but foolhardy. There is nothing wrong with re-imagining AD&D characters into SW, but if that is the depth of your creativity, then perhaps you should find others to write. Putting Yoda into this story-line was an extremely bad idea. He would not agree with making an innocent Jedi look guilty, even to save the order. It's different than when the order let Ahsoka stand trial -- she could defend herself and actually had a trial (and was proven innocent) whereas Sol will eternally be portrayed as a murderer, if Vernestra Rowh tells Yoda the truth and he becomes a party to it. I would think George Lucas wouldn't like Yoda wrongly portrayed. While he has no way to stop them from using Yoda, if he was to go public and speak out against his use, that would be a huge embarrassment to Headland and Kennedy, I would think. Someone needs to speak up, but so many of the 'critics' are gushing over how awesome The Acolyte was, though most of the fans don't agree and the numbers of those who watch concur.
It's not just Episode 4 that dropped out of the top 10: with Luminate's data, the Acolyte is nowhere to be seen for Episodes 7&8, with the lowest show this week pulling in 228 mmw (million minutes watched). That means that the finale to a Star Wars show was irrelevant compared to every other show out there, even with those abysmal numbers. Also, though Andor started slow, I've seen a graph (for the life of me I can't remember where) that showed it gained traction and actually ended its run as the 5th most watched Star Wars series (beating out Ahsoka). The Acolyte is heading right to the bottom, but sadly I don't think even that will wake up Disney. Unless Bob pulls a Willow and is so disgusted with the numbers and costs and just deletes it from D+, which, while unlikely, would be hilarious.
I mean disney and lucasfilm told us over and over again that the 'old' fans are not who they want to watch their stuff anymore, soooo, what does that leave them with? Yeah, not much.
Hey Thor, maybe I’m being pessimistic but will Star Wars ever get better? It feels like we’re constantly being fed shit. Ik there’s been good Star Wars content, like animation’s been overall pretty solid, mando s1 & 2 and Andor but those just feel like they’re the silver lining to everything else. I’ve tried to be optimistic about Star Wars, but starting last year especially I’ve started to lose hope. I was so excited about the Acolyte, I remember on one of ur polls (I think) I voted it as the Star Wars show I was most excited for- I got into the High Republic books so that I’d have some understanding for the setting of the Acolyte, and I thought “this is gonna be so cool, I’ve been wondering what the Sith were up to rn”, but then the show came out and although it’s got good moments, it just that MOMENTS. I feel like this franchise is dying, and it makes me so sad, I’ve seen all the movies in the theatres (rereleases for the OT and prequels), watched TCW when it was on Netflix, i remember trying to find a way to watch Twilight of the Apprentice. Idk, all the sw content I’m rewatching/rereading nowadays is TCW, Rebels and Timothy Zahn’s newer Thrawn books
That “slow motion” part in the fight was terrible. You could see it was poor wire work. The clothing didn’t react like they were jumping down. The fact Headland thinks that fight is better than the prequels is laughable.
The damage that this series has done has been enough for me to walk out of Disney EU for good (as I'm sure it has for others) and actually return back to the original EU. Some will say that The Last Jedi was the beginning of the end, but Season 3 Mandalorian really eroded it. I think some people were hoping that Disney would quietly retcon or redo the sequel trilogy to fix the problems (It was discussed), but that wasn't going to happen. Instead, they're doubling down on Episode 10, which might turn out to be Indy 5 or the Willow series. In fairness, I enjoyed SW Rebels and Bad Batch for their simple storytelling and for being mostly consistent with their stories/lore. Rogue One is still very good. But I don't picture Disney going back and admitting that they made a mistake with the Acolyte. Instead, they'll likely double down on it. It's now going to become a question of how much longer it will be before Disney sells off the franchise, seeing that it's not getting them anywhere. It's just burning their money up unless that's what they want.
The last show/movie I recommended to people based on the visuals was The Dark Crystal: Age Of Resistance, in which the spectacle wasn't based on CGI effects, but practical effects! I can't remember the last time I was blown away by CGI...
Honestly, the only visual effects I get impressed by anymore or by animated shows and movies. Look at movies like the spider verse animated movies, the most recent ninja Turtles movie, and even the super Mario Brothers movie. This is the only time you’re ever going to hear me praise illuminations, animation, but they made that feel like the game. That was Mario come to life. I agree with you 100% on special effects no longer being special
To anyone who makes a comment about some detail they liked about acolyte, such as a good lightsaber fight or the skinny dipping, I ask: is Ok, but was it worth 180 million dollars?
Hey Thor, Do you ever think you'll get to the point with Disney Star Wars where you'll just stop covering it? With the Acolyte being such an unmitigated disaster and proving once and for all that hope for good Star Wars in the spirit of what Lucas created is lost, have we gotten to the point where ignoring it is the best thing we can do? I can't help but feel like the only purpose of these shows is to desecrate what we love and spit in our faces. Love the videos. Keep up the great work.
Apathy for me as finally set in. I got Disney+ because I wanted Star Wars. And now I will be canceling Disney+ because of Star Wars. I'm not going to hold onto a subscription until Andor 2 comes out of a desire to burn money.
Wow, a comment of mine hasn't been featured in a video since the Aayla ranking video. Sick! Thanks Thor for all your hard work in these videos and your deep love of Star Wars. Disney should consider giving you a call.
we have come full circle guys. used to get beat up for being a fan of star wars, then everyone started watching/ loving star wars... now were back to the beginning cause ppl will make fun of you for liking star wars now a days
A Star Wars fan for 30+yrs and no longer watching a Star Wars product after 4 episodes. Never thought that would happen having watched all of Disney Lucasfilm up to that point. The REALLY sad indictment is that I felt relieved more than I felt sad after deciding to quit the series. The point you make about spectacle in Star Wars is an important one. Choreography or CGI/effects isn't enough, no where near enough if the groundwork has not been done to invest you in the spectacle in the first place. Especially Star Wars duels, my God! There was so little work done here for character investment and what little was done was very poorly written.
Leslie Headland confirmed today via Collider that Qimir is a self-insert.. She felt that people don’t want her to exist and she just wants to be able to wield her power how she wants how she wants. Good lord, this was obvious watching the show, but I didn’t think she’d say it out loud.
I'm just so happy our favorite character Mr. Snifferoo made it out OK. I thought he might die in a crash or explosion after he sabotaged Sol's ship for some ubknown reason. So happy they included a final scene of him sniffing around after meeting up with the Jedi.
As someone who watched The Acolyte, I give it a 6/10. It's not the best show, it's definitely not the worst. Fights look cool, story is awful. Some characters are cool, the two main characters are awful. It's the definition of a mid show for me. And that made me wonder why Disney decided to release The Acolyte when they did. This week alone, I watched the final episode of The Boys S4, this week's House of the Dragon episode and the first part of Cobra Kai's final season. Why did they release this at the exact same time as especially the first two shows? You're not going to beat those, especially not with a product like this. There have been instances where movies have been rescheduled to make sure the competition wasn't too big, even if I can't think of any examples right now I vaguely remember there being at least one Marvel/DC example, why weren't they smart enough to pull something like this with this show? It might have saved some of the streaming numbers.
Watch them make another nostalgic bait, F tier non canon season/show mandalorian or aloska and see the numbers get up to the bare minimum that they decide to continue. Outside of Andor and Rogue One, Disney hasn’t really made any good, canon masterpieces.
I'm old enough to remember seeing Star Wars five times in 1977. So, I'm a lifelong fan. But, as an adult lawyer, I'm more a fan of true crime. And, as promoted, The Acolyte promised a Venn diagram of those interests that made me look forward to it. Unfortunately, from the first episode, the homicide investigation made me think the writers were out of their depth. I mean, really, a society of spaceships with no apparent crime-fighting tools other than (notoriously unreliable) eyewitnesses? No DNA, no trace elements, no fingerprints, no CCTV to at least review? The writers set criminal investigations back a century. And, when they do arrest someone, no special handling of a suspected serial killer of Jedi?
The main issue I keep seeing in all the lightsaber fights is the lack of SFX on the lightsaber beams themselves. They almost seem forgotten. Or they just didn't turn them bright enough. The lightsabers look like practice saber/toy glowsticks. They didn't seem like laser swords
This has been the reality for awhile now and nothing changes, Disney and Lucasfilm are continuing with the same methodology with Star Wars shows despite the declining viewership numbers. There's no hope anything will change until KK is gone and one of her cronies doesn't take her place to continue her "vision".
Nice video Thor. We have to remember... D+. If I want to watch SW then I've got to subscribe to D+. The incentive just isn't there. I'm 51, I was there in 77, 80 and 83. With a few exceptions (Rogue One, Andor [via a friend]) the Disney era just hasn't matched the quality of story telling of what came before and where they have succeeded (see above) it is because the boundaries are already clearly drawn. Such a shame.
They made this a girl brand, nearly all products feature strong female leads or switchbait existing know characters. This is the kk legacy....... and its not working
I started trying to watch Ahsoka today for the first time, I confess it's mostly because I'm drawn to Rey Stevenson's character and the fondness people seem to have for him... I couldn't even get through the first episode, however. Rosario Dawson's fight choreography is awkward, slow, clunky and not believable, and then there is just a parade of feeemale lead characters aside from him, Ahsoka, Hera, Sabine, Nightsister Lady... 🙄 🤢 Then they're searching for a Map McGuffin (where have I seen this plot point before?)
There are people who are so easy to entertain thanks to lightsaber duels. The problem with the Acolyte is how the lightsabers weren't touched up with FX and looked like the LED toys that they are. Choreography was laughable with telegraphed dodges and swings. Inconsistent skills and usage of the Force. And most of all, it tried to outclass the Prequel duels instead of being inspired by them.
As someone who loves animated movies there are absolutely still movies and TVs shows where people will recommend stuff solely on the visuals. There is a ton of incredible animation coming out and it is certainly very interesting to see how the world of animation continues to improve in visuals. Even in the case of live action movies like Dune and Dune 2 were recommended not just on story but their incredible visuals as well. The cinematography and VFX are some of the best in the industry at the moment
@@rawnchydeard4669 ya IDK really with their track record, we have confirmed scripts and sets for the Ray movie but nothing for Mando as far as I know. They are probably redoing their plan after Acolytes failure and Ashokas meh reception
This show sucked so badly. I really wanted to like it as I’m a big fan of all things Star Wars content. Thor, how about you rewrite this story and share it with us like your old “what if” videos? I think you put a great story together on what could have been. Love your content man and you are right on target with your commentary. Osha killing Sol for me was probably one of the most ridiculous things to happen. He was heartbroken and I honestly didn’t see him make a huge mistake besides not telling her about killing her mother who was turning into a smoke monster. Venstra was a terribly written character. Dang it I could go on and on!
I think something people miss in these types of videos is that, for the most part, Disney couldn’t care less how many people actually watch their shows, just how many people stay subscribed to Disney plus, and I don’t think many people will quit over them making something bad like this as there’s always something else right around the corner that could be good
I used to be a diehard Star Wars fan, consuming all things part of the brand. But as the years have gone on since Disney took over the franchise, I became less and less interested to the point where no I haven’t watched the Acolyte and I don’t plan on ever watching it, I don’t buy memorabilia or collectables anymore and I don’t watch the movies/shows on rerun and spend any other free time I have watching RUclips videos or talking to people about it. It’s quite sad really and I’m sure that I’m not the only one this has happened to. Disney is running the franchise we all once loved so freely into the ground.
John Wick was one that people recommend based on the fights. The story pulled it all together too, so it probably wouldn't have made a splash without being good along with the visuals
Honestly I believe that every starwars producer on disney should be watching Thor and SW Theory videos, to AT LEAST have an Idea of what you can explore and what you should touch VERY CAREFULLY.
Sol died because he struggled with the English language. He couldn’t explain things with enough clarity and thoroughly. Who knew a Force choke is a way to kill a Jedi without a weapon? Nobody was predicting this prior to when it happened. I would read stuff from Reddit and I’m surprised a number of people enjoyed The Acolyte. Even giving it a score of 8.5/10. I’ve seen it being ranked as the 3rd best SW on Disney+ behind Andor and The Mandalorian. Not for me but more power (of Manny) to them. Toxic reviewers who rage bait divides people. It’s Saturday morning and we’re still talking about The Acolyte. Maybe over time, it will get appreciated more? Prequels were the perfect example of “I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it." Maybe in 20-25 years, people will look at some of the Disney Star Wars a little more fondly? 2024 Movies/TV Rankings That I’ve Seen 1. Ted 2. Fly Me to the Moon 3. House of the Dragon Season 2 4. Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga 5. The Boys Season 4 6. Cobra Kai Season 6 Part 1 (of 3) 7. MaXXXine 8. Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire 9. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes 10. Bad Boys: Ride or Die 11. Ghostbusters: The Frozen Empire 12. The Bikeriders 13. Civil War 14. Horizon: An American Saga 15. Longlegs 16. A Quiet Place: Day One 17. Twisters 18. The Acolyte I’ve never seen Dune 2 and don’t have any urge to. I know that’s what most people will put at No. 1. I found the first one way too bland. As Maggie from deepfocuslens said, she finds these Dune movies very sterile. Extremely slow and boring. The Acolyte might be dead last, but I do think it’s overHATED. Some of the undeserved hatred comes from not only review bombing but people who’ve never seen it. They just parrot what other people say about it and go along with them. Going to rewatch Fly Me to the Moon a third time in the theater. I’m not into rom-coms, but this one I first saw the other day after watching Twisters, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Love the vibe it brings and the 1969 look. The story is actually pretty good. Probably the most fun NASA/astronaut movie I’ve ever seen. Pacing is good. Music is good. ScarJo has charisma and charm like Julia Roberts and Meg Ryan in the 90s. Channing Tatum has grown on me. I’m very much into comedies because it offers the highest replay value for me. I don’t think Fly Me to the Moon is the best movie of the year. It just happens to be my favorite for being so charming and it never feels slow. It has a historic background story that I find interesting for a rom-com. The Acolyte: D Ep. 1: C- Ep. 2: C- Ep. 3: D+ Ep. 4: D Ep. 5: B- Ep. 6: D Ep. 7: D Ep. 8: B- The Boys S4: B- Ep. 1: C+ Ep. 2: A- Ep. 3: B Ep. 4: A- Ep. 5: C- Ep. 6: D+ Ep. 7: B Ep. 8: B+ House of the Dragon S2: B+ Ep. 1: B Ep. 2: A- Ep. 3: C+ Ep. 4: A Ep. 5: C+ Ep. 6: ? Ep. 7: ? Ep. 8: ? So I was ranking all the MCU movies with the exception of The Marvels as I haven’t seen that yet on my Letterboxd app. I think Thor: Love and Thunder and Iron Man 2 are some of the worst films of the franchise but I surprisingly enjoyed them. Love and Thunder is really a bad movie. Maybe a top 7 worst movie from MCU. But it doesn’t mean I hated it. Maybe that’s how some people feel about The Acolyte? Sometimes being bad doesn’t prevent people from still liking it. Enjoy what you want to enjoy and don’t listen to others telling you not to enjoy it. I don’t think these dudes really cares what SnarkyJay says or thinks. They just want to see her show some cleavage. Slick move by Will Jordan to wear shades while he’s indoors.
Watching the season finale of Demon Slayer S4.... Special effects animation is groundbreaking. And basically every season have moments like that. It's insane
The only cinematography I’ve ever said wow at in like the last 10 years is the shots from breaking bad and better call Saul. Particularly BCS, they’re artistic and beautiful shots at times that really set the tone. Other than that; Avatar in like 2008 is the last time I said wow tbh
To me the trick to making star wars fights, or really any fights good, is to use the Shonen secret sauce. You don't need to have perfect visuals for a fight, as long as there is an ideological subtext fight going on underneath the surface. It requires set up and well thought out writing, but there's a reason everyone remembers Naruto v. Sasuke (2) and it's not cause the fight looked cool
Dune's visuals were absolutely stunning, though it MEANT something because they were thematically significant. Dune was 2 for 2. The Last Jedi, on the other hand, obviously strived to give us stunning visuals but they were confusing in terms of story/writing. Instead of drawing us into it, they pulled us out of it. WHY is Crait red with a white dust cover, again? There is a soldier who specifically licks the dust and says "Salt!" just to make sure the audience can understand why the white ground is turning red, though this property of the ground affects the story in NO way - it is strictly there for visual effect to the extent that the story itself bends backwards to explain it with that soldier's one line in the film. TLJ is full of examples like that. Disney Star Wars in general keeps trying to chase the "looks cool" factor in greater priority than "makes sense for the story".
I dunno... The scary part is that I think the creators actually think they *are* writing good stories... With a side of if you don't like it, you're the problem... :/
Under a meme I saw on Facebook someone wrote, that the show is „objectively good written“. I highly doupt this person knows what the words „objectively“, „good“ or „written“ mean, because none of these applies to „the Acolyte“.
I’m one of those longtime Star Wars fans who canceled their Disney subscription and I have no desire to see anything more from Disney Star Wars. Funeral for a franchise.
Netflix tends to drop all theyre season episodes at one time so its unfair to judge it against a one (rather short) episode per week show. Thus episode 4 was the slowest and mostly a transport episode to "the big reveal" whom was not as interesting as the next episode whom has the big battle. It was also at the hight of the negative debate about the first four episodes and it might have scared a few viewers away. It got much less aggressive after episode 5. Plus I think a percentage of the viewers wait until they can bing watch the entire season - Specially with those episode being so short. But I am aboard that Disney need to stop choosing "bragging rights" over good stories. They need to understand that inclusion is not an excuse for good stories and that we can have both inclusion and good stories at once. (And I am all for inclusion in series and movies and respect all.)
For a minute I thought it was a joke showing late-series Dany and talking about people wanting substance over spectacle. Then I thought that I would watch season 8 again before watching the Acolyte
I find it ironic that the first words ever spoken in the sequel trilogy were: “This will begin to make things right.” 💀
From their point of view. A wicked, stupid point of view.
It’s very on the nose once you think about the direction lucasfilm wanted to go in
That when all things went wrong.
The Anti Trilogy video was pretty good.
U is hateing we love the show can’t wait for season two love the show
I don’t understand why they made and are making content no one wants. Like, at this point, they’re burning money to spite fans and drive established fans away.
I was a super fan and now I really couldn’t care less about anything Star Wars.
It's all about that Blackrock money
It's not like they're burning their own personal money. They are burning other people's money.
The point from the executive class is to make progressives look bad by giving conservatives something bad to point at and say "see, this is what woke ideas give us". The executives at Disney don't care if Trump wins because if he does he's already promised them as a wealth class *massive* tax breaks.
Most of them are at their positions due to political opinions and DEI, not because of their talent. As hacks (KK and Filoni included) they are unable to judge quality. They don't see the problems with these shows. Just like most other amateur writers who don't see the problems with their script.
@@Ihavethetouch That's no reason to not make high quality shows. They could do both, put lots of identity politics in them while making them decent. The problems with these shows are much more than just the woke parts.
One thing that bothers me about Disney Star Wars that isn’t discussed much is how strangely amoral it feels. Lucas Star Wars always had a clear moral theme and the new stuff either seems to step on it or ignore it. In the OT it’s clearly shown using anger for power is wrong (most clearly when Luke beats Vader with it but then tosses his saber to reject the emperor ion ROTJ) and the good guys win through their friendship, but in ST Rey uses rage in most of her fights and never suffers from it as though it’s a good thing that she just angrily overpowers everyone. In the OT Han Solo shows maturity before he gets into a relationship with Leia as he needed to grow up and have some values, whereas in the acolyte Osha is attracted to the murderous and manipulative Qimir and it’s portrayed as a fulfilling event. It’s just bizarre, it’s like the writers are snarking portraying themselves as more moral than the original creators through hamfisted politics and vapid diversity but the actual core message their stuff gets across is the opposite.
In Disney Star Wars, all men are portrayed as week, mostly useless and in need of feminine guidance, always. To the point where a Jedi Master, former general, war hero and council member, need a ten years old girl to tell him what to do😮💨. So, women should be portrayed as super beings by comparison but instead, they are shown to be murderous, lying, disloyal, manipulative and treacherous, but they are still the heroes of the story and all their actions are justified. So yeah, it's clear that the persons that make this kind of story are highly immoral people.
I don't think they understand SW.
For example, making Qimir/Osha the 'misunderstood' heroes is silly as the goal of the Sith ideology is dictatorship and space-fascism i.e., what the Empire is in the OT.
Disney seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Jedi and Sith are meant to represent. Or they get it and the writers have questionable morals. 😅
There's been a long running natural cycle in entertainment that swings back and forth between stories of clear black/white morality and morally gray. However some where along the line we transitioned to just the acceptance of immorality.
Somehow people can't distinguish with characters being the hero of their own story and being actually heroic.
I think you just summed up why I really never got into Andor. I know it's a more realistic look at how rebellions work, but I really didn't feel like there was a good dude to root for. Sure the Empire did horrible things in the show, but it was in response to borderline terrorist activities. Saw, Luthen, and Andor are all fairly self serving and only work together because of a shared hatred. Jen Erso says rebellions are built on hope, but all Andor shows is that rebellions are built on hate and a desire to shift power.
@@charles52able1 I like Andor but I probably would like it even without ties to SW. (edit: times - ties)
Me, watching these reviews like Darth Plagueis the creep from the shadows without watching the show. 😂
Same 😂
Yeah on top of the poor quality, disney+ is like $18.99. Complete ripoff
I feel attacked lol
SobHow can you know?
Me three. Zero interest in this crap, though ANDOR was real good. (Watched on BD from my library. #FREE ftw.)
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That image of the Disney Castle with the Imperial insignia grows more fitting as time goes on.
I honestly never understood why they intentionally went with that imagery, lol...
@@flatline8580 you would think they would use Luke, Leia, R2 or 3P0 in the Disney Castle imagery. I mean this is Disney after all, the champion of goodness.
From their point of view, the Jedi are evil
It's on brand for Disney given it was founded by Walt Disney a man with many ties to the Nazis and shared their views.
From day one, it was always accurate to Disney as the evil empire.
“Wasted potential” pretty much sums up all of Disney Star Wars.
Even as someone who is a fan of a few of their projects, this is absolutely the best description.
To be fair this was a problem with the franchise prior to Disney as well. there's just more of it now.
Agreed, we look forward to some new material and end up disappointed.
"In this show, everyone HAS to be dumb, in order for the plot to move forward."
-Script Trooper
In Headland's version of Star Wars, the entire galaxy was furiously passing around one single brain cell between them.
@@Blisterdude123... And it was lost after the first episode.
Funny enough, there was a similar problem with Ahsoka. The good guys only survived because Thrawn made awful decisions multiple times. But it's like the saying goes, a character can only be as smart as the one that wrote them.
This is Disney we are talking about.
To face the reality of the situation, they would have to admit to themselves they might have been wrong and we all know that can't happen.
So they will just double down.
Marvel sounds like they’re changing course. So there is a chance. That said, it won’t happen so long as KK is at the helm and I wouldn’t let Filoni near her office either. We’ll see. Maybe at some point they’ll get tired of losing money.
@@YegRon Filoni isn’t the problem. Get used to him being in charge of LucasFilm when it comes because the Grifters online can’t use their apathy as an excuse forever.
@@achaudhari101How is apathy an excuse? I admit I watch these videos because it's like an ongoing car crash
@Ihavethetouch More like Stockholm Syndrome at this point.
@@achaudhari101How? I used to love Star Wars, now I only like Legends and treat the Disney Canon as a cheating ex.
I haven’t been interested in it from the beginning. They’ve made it clear that I’m not their target audience, so I removed myself from the equation.
Except it wasn’t pandering to anyone but whites. You cucked out of the show for the most gullible of reasons.
Same here. They told us exactly what this show was going to be and who it was for two years ago. I knew better than to resubscribe to D+ for it.
This.
Exactly how I feel too. They’ve made it clear what they think of most fans, so most fans are more than happy to respond appropriately.
Exactly, same here, and hearing it's crap didn't help either.
Lightsaber fights, space battles etc. are the topping on the cake, characters and story are the cake.
If the cake is shit, the topping doesn't matter much.
I have no empathy for people who bashed Andor because "It's not Star Wars,there are no Jedi ,Sith, the force and Lightsaber fights" You got all of that in the Acolyte and well.... Be careful what you wish for.
idk. a movie like rogue one for example didn't have the best characters or a super unique story however its shoot outs and space battles were great enough to carry the entire movie.
with that being said, rogue one was shot more as a WAR movie with initially a war movie director and less of what a normal star wars movie would have been shot as.
not to say your points entirely wrong or anything but that something that doesn't that follow that archetype can certainly still be successful with the write ingredients added
@@rmw9420 You can have a mediocre cake with an excellent topping, that's ok. Rogue One is exactly that. Nothing wrong with that. Could it have been better, absolutely, but it's still the best Disney Star Wars movie by a mile.
@@kingrubbatiti1285 I have not seen Andor, but I bet I would like it, but I can't enjoy anything Star Wars anymore, because it's the same universe where you have the Holdo Maneuver, a somehow returning emperor and whatever the Acolyte is.
They could make 10 great Andor seasons, but I don't think I would watch them.
@@Lt_RikAndor is before all that crap, you can easily just ignore the Disney sequels. It’s what I do. It’s pretty easy to ignore the bad stuff in Star Wars and just see things like Andor, the original trilogy and a few others as the canon.
Obi wan and the acolyte are also easily ignored and don’t matter one bit in the canon.
I noticed that Mae used a life Scanner on a ship to find Sol and Osha on Brandok, but 16 yrs earlier The Jedi used Metal Dectectors and other scanning device. and the didn't notice the witches there in 7 weeks
I noticed that too! I actually yelled at my TV, "Oh so they DO have scanners!!"
Disney: "Stop thinking. Just consume whatever flashes n the screen. Why do you hate women?"
Technology works as the plot demands
The witches may have used magic to make themselves undetected.
@rafikshaheed4271 then why would Mother Anaseya would willingly surrender her daughter to the Jedi after a brief visit if they used magic to make sure they don't want to be found 🤔
George Lucas once said that special effects are used to enhance a story and he couldn't be more right. Without good writing, characters and world building it means nothing. JJ Abrams made probably the best looking Star Wars movie with Rise of Skywalker and Noone likes that shit
Plus keep in mind, when he was working on The Prequels, what Disney is doing is exactly what he said would happen if they had control over the franchise.
It's why Ep2&3 were funded by him. The Fox Excutives kept pressuring him to make The Prequels like The Originals. Even suggesting he have another Death Star appear.
All our fears pre-release were proven right and worse. It was always going to be DOA. They did a 180 million fanfic project to confirm they have no clue how Star Wars works.
Attack of the Clones says hello.
@@moderndancingfoolStill way better than the acolyte.
Disney made it very clear the past few years that Starwars isn't for Starwars fans anymore
So why did they expect Starwars fans to watch this?
It's hilarious because I've managed to drag 2 friends who aren't star wars fans (but do enjoy watching and analysing films/shows) to watch this with me, and they are almost verbatim giving the exact same criticism that the show has been receiving; it's boring, nothing happens, the dialogue is terrible, the acting is wooden, fire in space, telling a character their own backstory, weird new items (cortosis helmet). It's just a bad show
@@OneCokeAndDrink Thank you for doing the lords work
What frustrates me most about the people defending disney star wars isn't that they like something I don't. They have every right to enjoy somewhat mediocre to outright bad writing just used as a vehicle to drive pretty looking fight scenes. I have my guilty pleasures too. A lot of people don't admit that is all they care about in star wars, the ones that do are relatively rare and I tend to actually respect those people.
It is the people that try and act like I am a bad person for wanting well written, compelling stories with coherent lore in a francise I have loved for as long as I have had conscious thoughts that I have an issue with. The acolyte seems to draw this kind of person in so specifically for whatever reason.
I might just be weird, but even in franchises I can acknowledge are just objectively bad but I still watch for the spectacle I care that the lore remains internally consistent without being retconned constantly for no, or in some cases just a terrible, reason.
It's just easier to paint people with legitimate criticisms as bad people than trying to address them sadly.
I was struggling for the words to describe my issue with Disney Star Wars Defenders, but you have put it quite sustinctly.
It seems like some people have attached their identity to liking Star Wars, so they take a critique of Star Wars as a critique on themselves and respond with Ad Hominem.
I'll sometimes watch the channel, Generation Tech.
The defenders over there are a whole ass new breed.
The comment section is littered with blind praise for The Acolyte and cultish praise for the content creator, while simultaneously attacking, like a swarm of wasps, ANY criticisms of EITHER.
If you ever feel like disturbing the nest to have a little laugh, I cautiously recommend it.
Honestly there are fan film lightsaber fights that look just as good at this point
@@jayhartRIC you’re not lying. I’d rather give $180 million to some of these fan film creators and see what they can do instead.
Ryan vs Dorkman was awesome and came out 2 decades ago
@@rawnchydeard4669Fans could make something with just as good choreography with a fraction of that budget.
Just look at Godzilla Minus One to see what can be done with a modest budget.
If not better
I’ve never seen a really good fan lightsaber fight.
Tired of defenders that use the prequel hate as a excuse to defend why the acolyte is unjustifiably criticized and that it is the same thing as it was back then.
This show had all the time and money to make sure it wouldn't divide an audience, the fking INTERNET exists, Raw and clear data for the company to analyse and make sure to make something that appeals/unifies a fandom?!!! BUT NO the current employees working there either are so oblivious and unqualified to see that or they are qualified and fucking aware & actually want to divide which they have proven over the years where PRODUCT is more important than respecting a legacy.
Maybe the internet was a mistake.
@@achaudhari101 Or maybe Disney should have focused on quality instead of profit.
@@Deuteromisjust ignore the troll.
@@YegRon Nah, it's quite fun to see him shill. I notice he never makes an initial comment on Thor's videos just other people's comments.
@@Deuteromis I don’t have the energy to engage in bad faith arguments with him. Imagine defending a multinational corporation that doesn’t care about you with your free time and not get paid for it. It is amusing.
Star Wars is just another IP now. It gets no benefit of the doubt from the general public. Disney doesn’t realize it’s going to take actual work at all levels-writing, editing, character, action, sfx, shared narrative l-to make successful SW product, unlike 25 years ago.
My ten year old son who had no preconceived notions turned off the first episode half way through and said, “Dad they made the Jedi so stupid, I don’t want to watch this”
Smart kid! Will make it far!
You're probably 15 years old and this conversation never happened.
Your child has a brilliant future ahead as we head into idiotocracy....
@@moderndancingfoolin his pfp hes clearly 40 or close
@@moderndancingfool go comment on a Destiny video
The problem is that KK, Leslie and Amandala all iced half their audience before filming was even done.
Disney doesn’t even have Characters, they have plot servants that shapeshift into what ever is the most convenient to push the story forward in the least consistent and lamest ways possible. It is mind boggling how many plot holes are in this show and how often the plot servant’s entirely change their pov/motivations from the slightest pushback.
The Beauty of the OT is accepting people for who they are looking at Chewy, the Droids, Vader. Luke trying to save his father and his father self sacrificing in a believable way to atone for his horrendous atrocities. Star Wars has always been a sort of ‘woke’ ideology but it’s not as obvious, extreme, Its immersive. Star Wars is just the shit around the story. The Ships and Lightsabers don’t make Star Wars. Star Wars is about doing the right thing. Thats what made it so special.. at least to me. But Hey I only grew up on Star Wars for the last 20 years, as long as I can remember but hey what the fuck do I know. I just want my Heros back. I never had adults to look up too, it was always “what would luke do”, “What would Qui Gon do”. Disney won’t get me to watch a movie, I’m just not interested, anything Rey. Fuck Rey. That was Lukes job.
Also I want to add
The power of George, the power of Disney, the POWERRR OFFF HEADD CAAANNNONNNNN
@@skully5063 That first part is nonsense on your end because they have created actual characters.
@achaudhari101 Ah, yes, our favorite Thor comments section troll.. 😂😂😂😂
@@achaudhari101 I should have clarified I meant Acolyte. I enjoyed Andor and Rogue one a ton. Some of Mando is good. Grew up on the Animated Clone Wars show, but those things aren’t enough to make up for what they did to the OT. Boba Fett I coped, Obi Wan I coped hard asf, Ahsoka was… disappointing as hell coming from a huge Ashoka fan, and this show was the breaking point.
Well good on you for clarifying.
Yeah. Every story writing tip I've heard has said the CHARACTERS drive the plot forwards.
Every stupid decision a character makes in the Acolshyte is because the plot (Aka the writer) demanded it. The character's don't feel like they have a will of their own.
But, that's the trick, Fictional character's DON'T have a will of their own because they are fake. It's up to the storyteller to TRICK the audience's perception of disbelief into believing what they are seeing or hearing could plausibly be real people. In order to do that, I think one needs to be able to think a lot like other people, and have a basic sense of empathy.
But modern writers like Leslie Headland are so far up their own gender fluid posterior that all they can see is themselves in everything else.
I simply haven't watched the show. The trailer was enough
Trailers aren’t always telling the bigger picture. That same trailer gave us some good lightsaber duels.
@@achaudhari101And yet the show ended up being bad despite the saber duels.
@@Deuteromis Half bad.
@@achaudhari101 Half bad, half horrible
@@achaudhari101 Not even half, full on, when you have a person like Critkal who is a not really a Star Wars fan point out exactly why the show is bad. And he even approached the show as if it wasn't a Star Wars show.
Haven’t watched at all, and in fact unsubscribed from D+ some months ago. It obviously wasn’t made for me so I’ll pass. Given the reports of the quality and its treatment of lore I’m satisfied my decision was the right one.
Well you quit the service for the wrong reasons.
@@achaudhari101If he doesn't watch anything in it, why should he stay subscribed? 🤔
@@Ihavethetouch Because some of the good shows like Andor and X Men 97 are coming out soon with their sequels.
@@achaudhari101Did he at some point say he wanted to see them?
Word of Mouth finds a way.
Hey Thor, did watching The Acolyte/other recent Disney Star Wars diminish your love for the brand. For me personally, I haven’t watched this show. In fact, I vehemently refuse due to multiple reasons. But in recent times, I’ve found the more Disney Star Wars I consume, the more I disassociate from it and become more jaded. This isn’t the Star Wars I fell in love with as a child. Nor is it the Star Wars I choose to immerse myself in. It was an elective choice I know, but the first time I’ve passed on a Star Wars series. I have a hard time picturing myself getting excited for future Star Wars content. What about you?
@@DarthTamarus I think you don’t want SW to be better for you to come back.
This was something I noticed with Andor. So many people said they weren’t watching it because of Kenobi. Now I’m sort of amazed given everything known about both shows before they aired that people couldn’t discern Kenobi would likely be awful while Andor stood a chance to be good (and turned out to be excellent).
@@achaudhari101 Bro why are you always talking shit every time someone comments on these videos? 😂 This was clearly directed at Thor not you.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881same reason Solo flopped so hard, fallout from the disaster that is TLJ
@thetruezoalord4386 It’s sad you’re trying to act like you want an echo chamber.
No matter how hungry I am, I'm not gonna eat a steak dinner covered in poop. Star Wars has been covered in poop.
Disney wants that Bridgerton audience so bad.
Here's another way to restate that last comment.
House of the Dragon: Characters decisions and actions are consistent with each character's personality, motivations and the information they have at the time.
The Acolyte: Characters can make decisions and take actions without any discernable reason and often contradicting what the same character has done before or stated what they want to do, so the writers can push the story in the direction they want it to go.
Simplified version
House of the Dragon: The characters serve the story.
The Acolyte: The characters serve the writers whims and agenda.
Disney could have given us great/good content from the start. They already had a full library of lore. The EU is not perfect and Disney could literally have taken a year or two to go through it to keep the good, and toss out or improve the bad. Even mix in Lucas's idea for the Sequels in the mix.
But no, they saw a cash cow and had to milk it from the start and focused on profit instead of quality.
Capitalism in a nutshell
@@jamesmunn576 if it were capitalism, then they would have made stuff thats actually profitable. No company that was simply interested in revenue would have placed ideologues in charge.
Issue with using content from the EU is that Disney would have to pay royalties to the writers of whatever they use.
@@ahnok2855 Capitalism prioritizes short term gains over any sort of longevity. Get as much money as you can and damn all the consequences; that's the next guy's problem. People like to imagine that it's incompetence that makes terrible rushed projects rather than the calculated and planned reality it often is. The goal is not to make quality content because that is expensive. The goal is to find out how to cut corners and make the consumer pay more for less, and do it repeatedly. This is terrible in the long run and completely illogical on a grand scale, but by the time those consequences are being seen the people actually responsible have gotten their pay and are comfortably out the door to ruin something else. That's just how Capitalism works
@@rovelfox7832 Not necessarily. Nothing in capitalism focuses inherently on short-term gain. You can still be capitalist with long-term goals. Be it as it may, disney screwed up short-term too so it doesn't really matter who's correct on this.
Sfx? See Andor. Good writing? Andor. Interesting characters with logical motivations? Andor. Kennedy can commission quality. Why she commissions dull, boring and poorly written shows like Acolyte and whatever Boba Fett was…I’d love to know.
Don't be fooled, Andor is Disney+ show that does not see the light of day, watch something better.
Ironically Andor is also not the greatest SW, it is SW written with BSG style, good fiction, but not great IP recognition.
It was however written by writers who understood how to keep ego at bay to write good story, not write an escalating plot and keep the universe grounded.
@@michaellane5381For me it fits perfectly (along with Rogue One) telling the story of the rise of the rebellion. I think it is totally Star Wars. After season two of Andor you will have an arc of nine complete, related live action Star Wars stories. Forgetting the sequels and the other D+ stuff. Just my opinion. It works for me.
@@timothychapman269 it fits capably, but it is already clearly leading into the sequels and the terrible writing that got there. It's like hiring Tolkien to fill in Telletubi lore, he could probably do it, but it would never make the entire show some perfect opus
@@michaellane5381 how does Andor lead into the sequels. If you say that then A New Hope leads into the sequels which is a crazy statement. Andor and Rogue One lead into A New Hope and end at Return of the Jedi. That's it, that's where Star Wars ends for me.
I’ve scoured all corners of the Film/TV review community on RUclips for opinions on The Acolyte, and even channels that are more inclined to like the direction this show was going didn’t think it was executed well. If viewers that agree with your message were still disappointed with your show, I don’t know who is left to actually support it.
Only star wars explained gave it praise with a 7/10 rating lol
Yeah, I've done the same.
Imo, there's never been this level of consensus about a SW show.
BOBF comes close.
I'd love to see the plot from Screecher's Reach from Visions done in live action somehow... it was so cool!
“If its not working, well then they werent the right audience. Keep pushing out the product till the _right audience_ finds it and agrees with it.”
-someone at disney probably
I believe I can tell where all of the re-shoots were cut into the original story. Where the story flips for no reason is a good indication of a reshoot. For example, May and Dime Bag Ezra are wandering through the forest to off the wookie. For no reason, May says she is going to turn herself in to the Jedi, that is an inserted reshoot. The biggest and most glaring reshoot is the tracker rat ripping out the space ship wiring.
I think the higher ups at Disney have to step in. Kathleen Kennedys vision leads to nowwhere and her fight with their own fanbase is fruitless. Star wars is in the worst state ever. Kathleen Kennedy won't leave on her own, therefore Bob Iger is expected to do something about it.
Feels like how the empire came into power... A sound of applause welcoming it in thinking it was good...
And then the awkward period where you see the signs of something wrong...
And now we have been left within the unpleasant truth that those who came into power care nothing for what the original vision or meaning was.
Your point about special effects no longer special raises an intriguing point, at this point I think the more exciting prospect would be a return to the days of matte paintings, models, miniatures, and stop-motion animation wedded to a worthwhile story.
I realize the most writers/directors take inspiration from other places; characters in books, movies, TV, etc. But the more that we hear about Headland's inspirations, all she talks about is taking them from other things she has seen. It's like she can't have a new thought of her own. Yord was a AD&D character, for example. That makes sense on so many levels, from his AD&D name 'Yord' to the way he acted. As one who played AD&D for years (and was a DM for much of it) I can say with nearly complete certainty that Yord was a Paladin. I had friends who HATED paladins and always wanted to portray them as do goody-goody idiots. I used to drive DMs crazy by mostly playing paladins. But I recognize the biased view of paladins and Yord seemed to fit that stereotype perfectly. Arrogant, stupid, brave but foolhardy. There is nothing wrong with re-imagining AD&D characters into SW, but if that is the depth of your creativity, then perhaps you should find others to write. Putting Yoda into this story-line was an extremely bad idea. He would not agree with making an innocent Jedi look guilty, even to save the order. It's different than when the order let Ahsoka stand trial -- she could defend herself and actually had a trial (and was proven innocent) whereas Sol will eternally be portrayed as a murderer, if Vernestra Rowh tells Yoda the truth and he becomes a party to it. I would think George Lucas wouldn't like Yoda wrongly portrayed. While he has no way to stop them from using Yoda, if he was to go public and speak out against his use, that would be a huge embarrassment to Headland and Kennedy, I would think. Someone needs to speak up, but so many of the 'critics' are gushing over how awesome The Acolyte was, though most of the fans don't agree and the numbers of those who watch concur.
It's not just Episode 4 that dropped out of the top 10: with Luminate's data, the Acolyte is nowhere to be seen for Episodes 7&8, with the lowest show this week pulling in 228 mmw (million minutes watched). That means that the finale to a Star Wars show was irrelevant compared to every other show out there, even with those abysmal numbers. Also, though Andor started slow, I've seen a graph (for the life of me I can't remember where) that showed it gained traction and actually ended its run as the 5th most watched Star Wars series (beating out Ahsoka). The Acolyte is heading right to the bottom, but sadly I don't think even that will wake up Disney. Unless Bob pulls a Willow and is so disgusted with the numbers and costs and just deletes it from D+, which, while unlikely, would be hilarious.
Saying "watch this show for the visuals" is like people who say "listen to this shitty song because I spent $100k on my new speakers."
Also, people were making seriously cool lightsaber fights in their spare time, just for RUclips, 10+ years ago.
I mean disney and lucasfilm told us over and over again that the 'old' fans are not who they want to watch their stuff anymore, soooo, what does that leave them with? Yeah, not much.
Hey Thor, maybe I’m being pessimistic but will Star Wars ever get better? It feels like we’re constantly being fed shit. Ik there’s been good Star Wars content, like animation’s been overall pretty solid, mando s1 & 2 and Andor but those just feel like they’re the silver lining to everything else. I’ve tried to be optimistic about Star Wars, but starting last year especially I’ve started to lose hope. I was so excited about the Acolyte, I remember on one of ur polls (I think) I voted it as the Star Wars show I was most excited for- I got into the High Republic books so that I’d have some understanding for the setting of the Acolyte, and I thought “this is gonna be so cool, I’ve been wondering what the Sith were up to rn”, but then the show came out and although it’s got good moments, it just that MOMENTS. I feel like this franchise is dying, and it makes me so sad, I’ve seen all the movies in the theatres (rereleases for the OT and prequels), watched TCW when it was on Netflix, i remember trying to find a way to watch Twilight of the Apprentice. Idk, all the sw content I’m rewatching/rereading nowadays is TCW, Rebels and Timothy Zahn’s newer Thrawn books
That “slow motion” part in the fight was terrible. You could see it was poor wire work. The clothing didn’t react like they were jumping down. The fact Headland thinks that fight is better than the prequels is laughable.
If disney wants people to watch their shows they have to make content that they know their customers want. Not their personal agenda.
Lesley Headroom is a BLOCK head...
As in Peanuts...
Nothing makes sense...😢
Mae and Ohsa fight reminds me of nerds slap fighting....😂
The damage that this series has done has been enough for me to walk out of Disney EU for good (as I'm sure it has for others) and actually return back to the original EU. Some will say that The Last Jedi was the beginning of the end, but Season 3 Mandalorian really eroded it. I think some people were hoping that Disney would quietly retcon or redo the sequel trilogy to fix the problems (It was discussed), but that wasn't going to happen. Instead, they're doubling down on Episode 10, which might turn out to be Indy 5 or the Willow series.
In fairness, I enjoyed SW Rebels and Bad Batch for their simple storytelling and for being mostly consistent with their stories/lore. Rogue One is still very good. But I don't picture Disney going back and admitting that they made a mistake with the Acolyte. Instead, they'll likely double down on it. It's now going to become a question of how much longer it will be before Disney sells off the franchise, seeing that it's not getting them anywhere. It's just burning their money up unless that's what they want.
The last show/movie I recommended to people based on the visuals was The Dark Crystal: Age Of Resistance, in which the spectacle wasn't based on CGI effects, but practical effects!
I can't remember the last time I was blown away by CGI...
"Hey watch this for the fights..." I literally told a friend of mine this regarding the John Wick films. He hadn't seen any of them. :)
This show makes the last Jedi and the rise of skywalker look like masterpieces!
BOBF was truly the downfall of Star Wars on TV. After that show the public interests in this medium fell off a cliff.
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Honestly, the only visual effects I get impressed by anymore or by animated shows and movies. Look at movies like the spider verse animated movies, the most recent ninja Turtles movie, and even the super Mario Brothers movie. This is the only time you’re ever going to hear me praise illuminations, animation, but they made that feel like the game. That was Mario come to life. I agree with you 100% on special effects no longer being special
I wonder what the King of Collectibles per episode budget is....... $20 million?
"Mediocre" that's an optimistic opinion about the Acolyte
Shills: This poop cookie sundae isn't so bad!
Me: You're literally eating sh$#. Stop it. Get help.
I laughed when you said cool looking Sith characters....😂
The main kind of production where visuals are still a major selling point are animated productions, especially anime.
To anyone who makes a comment about some detail they liked about acolyte, such as a good lightsaber fight or the skinny dipping, I ask: is Ok, but was it worth 180 million dollars?
Hey Thor,
Do you ever think you'll get to the point with Disney Star Wars where you'll just stop covering it? With the Acolyte being such an unmitigated disaster and proving once and for all that hope for good Star Wars in the spirit of what Lucas created is lost, have we gotten to the point where ignoring it is the best thing we can do? I can't help but feel like the only purpose of these shows is to desecrate what we love and spit in our faces.
Love the videos. Keep up the great work.
It will be interesting to see where they go moving forward.
Interesting how Netflix just dominates that top 10 really.
Apathy for me as finally set in. I got Disney+ because I wanted Star Wars. And now I will be canceling Disney+ because of Star Wars. I'm not going to hold onto a subscription until Andor 2 comes out of a desire to burn money.
Wow, a comment of mine hasn't been featured in a video since the Aayla ranking video. Sick!
Thanks Thor for all your hard work in these videos and your deep love of Star Wars. Disney should consider giving you a call.
we have come full circle guys. used to get beat up for being a fan of star wars, then everyone started watching/ loving star wars... now were back to the beginning cause ppl will make fun of you for liking star wars now a days
Lol true.
A Star Wars fan for 30+yrs and no longer watching a Star Wars product after 4 episodes. Never thought that would happen having watched all of Disney Lucasfilm up to that point. The REALLY sad indictment is that I felt relieved more than I felt sad after deciding to quit the series. The point you make about spectacle in Star Wars is an important one. Choreography or CGI/effects isn't enough, no where near enough if the groundwork has not been done to invest you in the spectacle in the first place. Especially Star Wars duels, my God! There was so little work done here for character investment and what little was done was very poorly written.
Leslie Headland confirmed today via Collider that Qimir is a self-insert.. She felt that people don’t want her to exist and she just wants to be able to wield her power how she wants how she wants. Good lord, this was obvious watching the show, but I didn’t think she’d say it out loud.
I'm just so happy our favorite character Mr. Snifferoo made it out OK. I thought he might die in a crash or explosion after he sabotaged Sol's ship for some ubknown reason. So happy they included a final scene of him sniffing around after meeting up with the Jedi.
As someone who watched The Acolyte, I give it a 6/10. It's not the best show, it's definitely not the worst. Fights look cool, story is awful. Some characters are cool, the two main characters are awful. It's the definition of a mid show for me. And that made me wonder why Disney decided to release The Acolyte when they did. This week alone, I watched the final episode of The Boys S4, this week's House of the Dragon episode and the first part of Cobra Kai's final season. Why did they release this at the exact same time as especially the first two shows? You're not going to beat those, especially not with a product like this. There have been instances where movies have been rescheduled to make sure the competition wasn't too big, even if I can't think of any examples right now I vaguely remember there being at least one Marvel/DC example, why weren't they smart enough to pull something like this with this show? It might have saved some of the streaming numbers.
Watch them make another nostalgic bait, F tier non canon season/show mandalorian or aloska and see the numbers get up to the bare minimum that they decide to continue.
Outside of Andor and Rogue One, Disney hasn’t really made any good, canon masterpieces.
Neither of the two former shows you mentioned are F tier unless you are lazy/petty like that.
The Meg 2 was more enjoyable than this
Hell, even the new animated show Kite Man from DC on Max is way better.
I'm old enough to remember seeing Star Wars five times in 1977. So, I'm a lifelong fan. But, as an adult lawyer, I'm more a fan of true crime. And, as promoted, The Acolyte promised a Venn diagram of those interests that made me look forward to it. Unfortunately, from the first episode, the homicide investigation made me think the writers were out of their depth. I mean, really, a society of spaceships with no apparent crime-fighting tools other than (notoriously unreliable) eyewitnesses? No DNA, no trace elements, no fingerprints, no CCTV to at least review? The writers set criminal investigations back a century. And, when they do arrest someone, no special handling of a suspected serial killer of Jedi?
“Crouching tiger hidden d” was the last time someone(s) said I should see the visuals ….
The main issue I keep seeing in all the lightsaber fights is the lack of SFX on the lightsaber beams themselves. They almost seem forgotten. Or they just didn't turn them bright enough. The lightsabers look like practice saber/toy glowsticks. They didn't seem like laser swords
This has been the reality for awhile now and nothing changes, Disney and Lucasfilm are continuing with the same methodology with Star Wars shows despite the declining viewership numbers. There's no hope anything will change until KK is gone and one of her cronies doesn't take her place to continue her "vision".
Nice video Thor. We have to remember... D+. If I want to watch SW then I've got to subscribe to D+. The incentive just isn't there. I'm 51, I was there in 77, 80 and 83. With a few exceptions (Rogue One, Andor [via a friend]) the Disney era just hasn't matched the quality of story telling of what came before and where they have succeeded (see above) it is because the boundaries are already clearly drawn. Such a shame.
Disney losing money? So? Blackrock money printer goes brrrrrrrr
They made this a girl brand, nearly all products feature strong female leads or switchbait existing know characters. This is the kk legacy....... and its not working
Yaassss.Yaaaasss.
Oh the action figures won't sell, neither will the toys.
It is a dead brand.
I started trying to watch Ahsoka today for the first time, I confess it's mostly because I'm drawn to Rey Stevenson's character and the fondness people seem to have for him...
I couldn't even get through the first episode, however. Rosario Dawson's fight choreography is awkward, slow, clunky and not believable, and then there is just a parade of feeemale lead characters aside from him, Ahsoka, Hera, Sabine, Nightsister Lady... 🙄 🤢
Then they're searching for a Map McGuffin (where have I seen this plot point before?)
The FANS must face reality and accept that Disney star wars is dead. It's not real Star Wars and it should be rejected.
@@Shrike1988 It’s not dead though. This is you acting like a petulant child.
@@achaudhari101star wars used to be a premier franchise. Now it’s relegated to streaming shows which can’t even compete with other television shows 😂
It’s coming back in theaters eventually. Some of those projects you are condemning I argue we’re overhated though.
@@achaudhari101it’s not childish to objectively look at reality for what it is.
Jesus listen to yourself. It's a TV show, not apartheid.
There are people who are so easy to entertain thanks to lightsaber duels. The problem with the Acolyte is how the lightsabers weren't touched up with FX and looked like the LED toys that they are. Choreography was laughable with telegraphed dodges and swings. Inconsistent skills and usage of the Force. And most of all, it tried to outclass the Prequel duels instead of being inspired by them.
As someone who loves animated movies there are absolutely still movies and TVs shows where people will recommend stuff solely on the visuals. There is a ton of incredible animation coming out and it is certainly very interesting to see how the world of animation continues to improve in visuals.
Even in the case of live action movies like Dune and Dune 2 were recommended not just on story but their incredible visuals as well. The cinematography and VFX are some of the best in the industry at the moment
They have in a sense, this is why we are seeing a return to theaters with one of the titles being Mando which was their original big name show
@@Rayleonard13 the Mando movie will never be made. It was simply announced as a knee jerk reaction. But that’s not a bad thing.
@@rawnchydeard4669 It will be made.
@@rawnchydeard4669 ya IDK really with their track record, we have confirmed scripts and sets for the Ray movie but nothing for Mando as far as I know. They are probably redoing their plan after Acolytes failure and Ashokas meh reception
@@Rayleonard13 you mean they have a plan? 🤣
This show sucked so badly. I really wanted to like it as I’m a big fan of all things Star Wars content. Thor, how about you rewrite this story and share it with us like your old “what if” videos? I think you put a great story together on what could have been. Love your content man and you are right on target with your commentary. Osha killing Sol for me was probably one of the most ridiculous things to happen. He was heartbroken and I honestly didn’t see him make a huge mistake besides not telling her about killing her mother who was turning into a smoke monster. Venstra was a terribly written character. Dang it I could go on and on!
I think something people miss in these types of videos is that, for the most part, Disney couldn’t care less how many people actually watch their shows, just how many people stay subscribed to Disney plus, and I don’t think many people will quit over them making something bad like this as there’s always something else right around the corner that could be good
At this point I would prefer Star Wars be put on a shelf instead of being mishandled like this. Wait until someone worthy comes along
diznee will ignore the ratings, ignore the criticism, approve another season (if not two), and double the budget. _they don't do what the fans want._
I used to be a diehard Star Wars fan, consuming all things part of the brand. But as the years have gone on since Disney took over the franchise, I became less and less interested to the point where no I haven’t watched the Acolyte and I don’t plan on ever watching it, I don’t buy memorabilia or collectables anymore and I don’t watch the movies/shows on rerun and spend any other free time I have watching RUclips videos or talking to people about it. It’s quite sad really and I’m sure that I’m not the only one this has happened to. Disney is running the franchise we all once loved so freely into the ground.
John Wick was one that people recommend based on the fights. The story pulled it all together too, so it probably wouldn't have made a splash without being good along with the visuals
That scene was Crouching Jedi, Hidden Sith Lord 😅
If Disney can say no to another series of She Hulk, they can do the same here.
Honestly I believe that every starwars producer on disney should be watching Thor and SW Theory videos, to AT LEAST have an Idea of what you can explore and what you should touch VERY CAREFULLY.
Sol died because he struggled with the English language. He couldn’t explain things with enough clarity and thoroughly. Who knew a Force choke is a way to kill a Jedi without a weapon? Nobody was predicting this prior to when it happened.
I would read stuff from Reddit and I’m surprised a number of people enjoyed The Acolyte. Even giving it a score of 8.5/10. I’ve seen it being ranked as the 3rd best SW on Disney+ behind Andor and The Mandalorian. Not for me but more power (of Manny) to them. Toxic reviewers who rage bait divides people.
It’s Saturday morning and we’re still talking about The Acolyte. Maybe over time, it will get appreciated more? Prequels were the perfect example of “I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it." Maybe in 20-25 years, people will look at some of the Disney Star Wars a little more fondly?
2024 Movies/TV Rankings That I’ve Seen
1. Ted
2. Fly Me to the Moon
3. House of the Dragon Season 2
4. Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
5. The Boys Season 4
6. Cobra Kai Season 6 Part 1 (of 3)
7. MaXXXine
8. Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire
9. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
10. Bad Boys: Ride or Die
11. Ghostbusters: The Frozen Empire
12. The Bikeriders
13. Civil War
14. Horizon: An American Saga
15. Longlegs
16. A Quiet Place: Day One
17. Twisters
18. The Acolyte
I’ve never seen Dune 2 and don’t have any urge to. I know that’s what most people will put at No. 1. I found the first one way too bland. As Maggie from deepfocuslens said, she finds these Dune movies very sterile. Extremely slow and boring.
The Acolyte might be dead last, but I do think it’s overHATED. Some of the undeserved hatred comes from not only review bombing but people who’ve never seen it. They just parrot what other people say about it and go along with them.
Going to rewatch Fly Me to the Moon a third time in the theater. I’m not into rom-coms, but this one I first saw the other day after watching Twisters, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Love the vibe it brings and the 1969 look. The story is actually pretty good. Probably the most fun NASA/astronaut movie I’ve ever seen.
Pacing is good. Music is good. ScarJo has charisma and charm like Julia Roberts and Meg Ryan in the 90s. Channing Tatum has grown on me. I’m very much into comedies because it offers the highest replay value for me. I don’t think Fly Me to the Moon is the best movie of the year. It just happens to be my favorite for being so charming and it never feels slow. It has a historic background story that I find interesting for a rom-com.
The Acolyte: D
Ep. 1: C-
Ep. 2: C-
Ep. 3: D+
Ep. 4: D
Ep. 5: B-
Ep. 6: D
Ep. 7: D
Ep. 8: B-
The Boys S4: B-
Ep. 1: C+
Ep. 2: A-
Ep. 3: B
Ep. 4: A-
Ep. 5: C-
Ep. 6: D+
Ep. 7: B
Ep. 8: B+
House of the Dragon S2: B+
Ep. 1: B
Ep. 2: A-
Ep. 3: C+
Ep. 4: A
Ep. 5: C+
Ep. 6: ?
Ep. 7: ?
Ep. 8: ?
So I was ranking all the MCU movies with the exception of The Marvels as I haven’t seen that yet on my Letterboxd app. I think Thor: Love and Thunder and Iron Man 2 are some of the worst films of the franchise but I surprisingly enjoyed them. Love and Thunder is really a bad movie. Maybe a top 7 worst movie from MCU. But it doesn’t mean I hated it.
Maybe that’s how some people feel about The Acolyte? Sometimes being bad doesn’t prevent people from still liking it. Enjoy what you want to enjoy and don’t listen to others telling you not to enjoy it. I don’t think these dudes really cares what SnarkyJay says or thinks. They just want to see her show some cleavage. Slick move by Will Jordan to wear shades while he’s indoors.
Dude, you're doing yourself a disservice by not watching Dune Pt2.
Watching the season finale of Demon Slayer S4.... Special effects animation is groundbreaking. And basically every season have moments like that. It's insane
The only cinematography I’ve ever said wow at in like the last 10 years is the shots from breaking bad and better call Saul. Particularly BCS, they’re artistic and beautiful shots at times that really set the tone. Other than that; Avatar in like 2008 is the last time I said wow tbh
To me the trick to making star wars fights, or really any fights good, is to use the Shonen secret sauce. You don't need to have perfect visuals for a fight, as long as there is an ideological subtext fight going on underneath the surface. It requires set up and well thought out writing, but there's a reason everyone remembers Naruto v. Sasuke (2) and it's not cause the fight looked cool
I told everyone I knew that they needed to see the Obi-wan Kenobi series just for the FX/blocking/post-production. it was a MST3k party!
Dune's visuals were absolutely stunning, though it MEANT something because they were thematically significant. Dune was 2 for 2. The Last Jedi, on the other hand, obviously strived to give us stunning visuals but they were confusing in terms of story/writing. Instead of drawing us into it, they pulled us out of it. WHY is Crait red with a white dust cover, again? There is a soldier who specifically licks the dust and says "Salt!" just to make sure the audience can understand why the white ground is turning red, though this property of the ground affects the story in NO way - it is strictly there for visual effect to the extent that the story itself bends backwards to explain it with that soldier's one line in the film. TLJ is full of examples like that. Disney Star Wars in general keeps trying to chase the "looks cool" factor in greater priority than "makes sense for the story".
I dunno... The scary part is that I think the creators actually think they *are* writing good stories...
With a side of if you don't like it, you're the problem... :/
The nine dislikes are the nine people that liked The Acolyte, total.
Under a meme I saw on Facebook someone wrote, that the show is „objectively good written“. I highly doupt this person knows what the words „objectively“, „good“ or „written“ mean, because none of these applies to „the Acolyte“.
I’m one of those longtime Star Wars fans who canceled their Disney subscription and I have no desire to see anything more from Disney Star Wars. Funeral for a franchise.
Netflix tends to drop all theyre season episodes at one time so its unfair to judge it against a one (rather short) episode per week show. Thus episode 4 was the slowest and mostly a transport episode to "the big reveal" whom was not as interesting as the next episode whom has the big battle.
It was also at the hight of the negative debate about the first four episodes and it might have scared a few viewers away. It got much less aggressive after episode 5. Plus I think a percentage of the viewers wait until they can bing watch the entire season - Specially with those episode being so short.
But I am aboard that Disney need to stop choosing "bragging rights" over good stories. They need to understand that inclusion is not an excuse for good stories and that we can have both inclusion and good stories at once. (And I am all for inclusion in series and movies and respect all.)
For a minute I thought it was a joke showing late-series Dany and talking about people wanting substance over spectacle. Then I thought that I would watch season 8 again before watching the Acolyte