I just bought a 2013 Odyssey w/ 165k miles. I took out the seats and camp in the back. I HAD a taco and a tundra but the minivan is perfect for stealth camping. I can just go into the back w/o going outside. Plenty of storage! smooth for long trips. and GREAT MPG. ITS NOT JUST FOR KIDS!
Having grown kids now I really do not need a minivan anymore. But as everyone knows the layout of a minivan makes the average daily life soooo much easier and practical. And lets be honest, once you are over 30 years old, who do you REALLY think you're trying to impress with what you drive? And do you really care?
Everyone wants more tech, so at least it has the latest infotainment setup & the newer Honda guages. Only thing I wish they added is new headlight with the split design they all have
@@JoshScott-v7j Agreed, especially AWD & the 360. Let's hope the 360 is an option now that maybe just wasn't listed because every other competitor has that. 🤦🏽♂️
@@lryoung17 I wonder why Honda didn't just redesign the Odyssey. I mean the new platform is right there in the Pilot. If they want to add a hybrid option, add it later!
@@JoshScott-v7jI'm gonna assume because the demand isn't as strong as other segments, & it's selling well in its class so they just wanna update it enough to keep it in it's spot while they figure out how to electrify it. That's what it seems like Chrysler is doing as well. The Pacifica is even older 🙃
Yeah this van is really outdated we are going on 8 years at this point like redesign it already it has already had like 3 refreshes at this point plus the ugly rear end design cars normally get 1 refresh during there model cycle 1st refresh = 2020 2nd refresh = 2022 3rd refresh = 2025
It’s beyond aggravating how there is so little investment in minivans. It’s like 2 generations behind the Pilot let alone every other SUV out there. I have an X7 and I would PAY for a Acura-fied Odyssey with the type-S powertrain and 4WD. Honda/Acura, there is a market for luxury minivans!!
mini van makes sense all together! to be honest! unless you need that OEM GROUND CLEARANCE. The mini van is the best option! not a cop magnet, Thief Magnet, Vandal Magnet etc. etc. etc. No one would bat an eye at a mini van! why hasn't any luxury maker truly made a luxury mini van in the USA MARKET! just BAFFLES ME! as much as I love SUV's the sliding Doors are the biggest selling points! and the third row is best! without having the vehicle be such a BOAT!
@@duckinghamdallas yes I know that, and why I Specifically said in the USA Market. also the LEXUS LM is a niche mini van lol or MVP as they call it.. the price is ABSURD and the escalade at that price point makes more sense.
No one buys them. Minivan sales are mostly on a decline. Someone who wants something luxurious will just go buy an escalade. It offers similar room but looks much more upscale, can tow their fancy boat they probabaly own which a minivan can't, or mayve they will need the 4wd to go up to the fancy ski resort and cabin they go to every year.
Papa Kirk, You are so correct, the Odyssey is overdue for a 35 mpg AWD hybrid to catch up with Sienna. The Sienna needs to upgrade their ergonomics to match Honda's minivan. Today's Mega-Minivans need to be able to easily carry a sheet of plywood. 😁
@@alexmassengale433 Ever since 'TNGA' came along, Toyota has been in a real slump when it comes to interior space efficiency and ergonomics. Honda could teach them many lessons in this area.
Well…that is where the so hated lobster claws taillights came from as well. When I point this out to people they always say, “well it’s not as noticeable as it is on the NSX as it is the Accord.” Yeah, sure…we just love to hate the Accord.
360 Camera and HUD is a must. I had a 21 Odyssey for a short spell and it definitely needed these items. Gas mileage in the city was so so but it was great on the highway. A hybrid would help.
My kids are grown, and out of the house. We have 2 large dogs, and enjoy Cycling so I think we’ll have a minivan for some time. It’s nice to have the space for people when company is in town, and can bring you own new TV home without delivery. I wish they did more. We were really hoping for a Hybrid. I’d like to have seen more of the current interior design like the new Pilot. I do like the new instrument cluster. I’m not a fan of the current setup.
we purchased 2024 odyssey elite back in march. I have say according to my opinion the odyssey has the best exterior design in the minivan segment. all seats are comfort and has fair amount of space for all passengers. from the elite trim we have double painted window both front and middle improve so much for the quality of driving. the 3.5 v6 nature aspirated produces decent amount of power and gets us so much confident to carry totally of 7 people for roadtrip. however for model year of 2024 even on top of the line still missing /hud/ 360camera/ awd not even comes in to the option/ wireless charger is nothing but making your phone warmer/hotter/ small size of screen and lack of function. caution: middle&rear air vents aren't locate on the roof which isn't carseat friendly specially for rear facing carseat. we live in arizona and I can tell you the air conditioner is completely disaster in summer, I sent it back to dealer they told me nothing wrong it just because the smaller of compressor compare to the older generation of Honda ). but if you don't live in the very hot state I think you should be alright.
I think the next generation Odyssey will come as a 2027 MY. The Passport got a second refresh for the 2024 MY and is getting redesigned for the 2026 MY.
i had been a odyssey owner driver since 1995, 1999, 2002 and 2008 and 2010 Honda needs to put some work in Odyssey in term of reliability and moving to full EV the current hybrid works well city but gutless on highway Pilot has moved to Dual Cam not sure if next Odyssey will get same DHOC
odyssey needs to add the critical deal-breakers: which are: awd option. pano-roof option. 360-cam option. and engine timing belt absolutely must be replaced by chain or gear. and finally plugin option with extra large battery option and cng fuel option. also off-road trim option like with high clearance and some other light-off-roading features. and odyssey will become a number one van ever.
Awd and a hybrid would be nice. A traditonal gear shifter or steering column shifter is better then the push button. Honda is being lazy. Had an 05 odyssey, now a 22 carnival. So disappointing on no redesign
Thank God I got the base EX Odyssey in 2024. Honda just wiped out 20% of sales by taking out the EX. Leather seats especially Acura and Honda deteriorate badly after 5 years. I have had the leather in my Acura replaced 3 times while my old 1989 Honda Accord cloth seat still look fairly new. I also do not need a sunroof and power lift gate. More things to go wrong, adds weight and reduces space. Love the 2025 instrument cluster. Classy and clear round dials. The bumper tweak is nice. Hope they improved Android Auto because in my 2024 it is unusable and constantly disengages. I am using a stick on Garmin instead. I wish they would offer Navigation as an option on all models. If they are doing a Hybrid in 2027/28 they better make it a V6 hybrid because the Sienna is way too noisy and has no power for people who carry cargo. Plus Honda cannot compete with the reliable if noisy Sienna 4 Cylinder Hybrid. The suspension on the Honda Odyssey sags badly under a load so I will put in coil overs and 19 inch wheels with 245/50-19 tires at some stage. Now if they could do a type S Honda Odyssey with navigation. I would buy it in a heartbeat. Even with the stupid leather. Many luxury makers are offering cloth as a luxury option. It is simple better.
Toyota World on RUclips leaked a mid-cycle refresh for the ‘25 sienna w/ updated infotainment, digital gauge & facelift. That being said, how long til redesign? 2-3yrs? Getting a ‘24 XLE this week, but plan to hand down to Mrs & get a ‘27/‘28, hoping by then we see major changes (perhaps a Prime..!).
2024 Chevy Traverse has 360 camera, full LED lightning, heated seats, heated steering wheel, remote start, AutoSense power lift gate, massive 17.7in infotainment and 11in gauge cluster, etc ALL STANDARD ON EVEN THE BASE LS TRIM FOR 39K (which includes destination). Anyone buying the Odyssey over a Carnival or Traverse are brain dead, no offense. Only thing the Odyssey offers is a bit better handling and a bit more speed. And I guess the vacuum? I'm a die hard minivan guy but the new Traverse looks so appealing in design, standard features, and the turbo engine (even if it isn't too refined at WOT its good enough for daily driving).
Turbo engine from Chevy LOL, good luck with that. These are 2 completely different vehicles to compare. I was considering Traverse but ran away after researching about all the reliability issues, and how GM treats its customers.
The honda oddyssey already has a long wheel base, they might as well make it an EV, its more practical than the Pilot and Ridgeline, it makes more sense too since the mini van isn't used much for towing and it's more low to the ground, and adding two electric motors gives it AWD 🙏🏽
I test drove the regular and the Honda recently. Kia had nicer screens and cameras for sure but a less useful interior layout and it drove worse. They also really messed up the infotainment/climate control setup.
It seems like minivans don't get redesigned that often. The last generation Toyota Sienna was in production from 2011-20 and the Chrysler Pacifica has been around since 2017. But I do feel minivans are the best road trip vehicles due to it's space and ride comfort.
Honda missed the mark on the 2025 Honda Odyssey. Instead of a refresh they should’ve given it a whole redesign with a new 4 cylinder as the first gen model had. But of course now with a hybrid/ pev powertrain with awd as option to compete with its competitors. Hence marking 30 Years since its introduction.
They’re so lazy they haven’t redesigned the odyssey since 2018 which is almost 6-7 years ago. It’s already so dated compared to it’s competitors like the sienna or carnival
we have four kids. So ya mini van is a must. However the prices of them are just way out of wack. The prices here in Canada when we bought a 2016 Odyssey base lx was 36000. Now a "base" is in the 50000 range. Just too much.
Honda made a DOHC V6 that is compliant until at least 2030, and that replaces the VTEC. Hopefully that stays. Turbo 4 engines are terrible when compared to V6 smoothness and refinement. Honda has made the J engine since 1997 so it would suck if they stopped making it.
I say this as a Honda guy (I have 3 right now) ... did Honda address road/wind noise at highway speeds?? Loud interiors seem to be a 'feature' of Hondas.
Just purchased the Elite today. I would say they feel short in the tech and interior leather colors. I’m not thrilled with the tires Bridgestone. Having them replaced with Pirelli Weather Active. It seems like the storage areas go smaller. I’m glad to see the vacuum cleaner gone and still miss the refrigerator. Still have a lot of exploring to do. Even so not all of us have kids to carry around I would like to have seen an Odyssey Type R. If I really would have gotten my choice I would have chosen the CX 90 Premium Plus
We have a 2019 Odyssey & nothing else is practical for a family. It looks like Honda is buying time with a 2nd (mid cycle) refresh to come up with a hybrid?!
A few sources have described minor 2025 Sienna updates, including updated infotainment and MID, colors, but still TSS 2.0. Have you gotten confirmation of those details?
The new J35Y8 has no performance nor fuel efficiency improvement over the Y6, and Y8 also ditched VTEC, this new engine is only built to be "cleaner" to drop NOx output. I think Honda is only fitting it in the Pilot so far, and the new Passport of course.
We have a 2021 Odyssey and we do not like how when you lay down the rear seats that it has a dip down toward the front of the vehicle. Does the 2025 seats lay flat or do they have the little hump down toward the front?
When I went van shopping last year it was and still is here impossible to get a sienna. The odyssey was (still is) very expensive, only top trim available anywhere doesn’t help. The Pacifica I didn’t want to entertain as it has some reliability issues. Ended up getting the Kia Carnival. It’s not perfect but it has been more than sufficient for my needs with 3 (going on 4 kids). Step up from base came with all I wanted besides adaptive cruse. For the $20k I paid less than the odyssey would have been, it has been blissful.
I would think the next gen Odyssey would get the next gen hybrid system. Honda has invested too much in that system to not incorporate it into a vehicle that currently has 1/3 market share in its segment. If they go exclusively EV with it, they will lose most of that market share. The only reason for going EV only would be if minivan sales tank over the next 2-3 years - then you have less to lose. But those decisions need to be made sooner than later so I would think they'll incorporate the new hybrid system into the Odyssey.
Odessey has a more flexible interior with 8 seats in all configurations and a removable second row. Toyota has the more efficient power train but at the markups dealers in my area are charging, you might never make up the cost difference.
It still looks the same. I would expect a refresh like this 2-3 years ago. I will say this time and time again. Honda has always been a day late and a dollar short when it comes to design and technology.
I feel the same about road trips in an EV . Nothing but horror stories ( Broken Chargers - Cars "parked " at Chargers , no Owner in sight - Range Anxiety ) . Dear Honda 3.5 Liter HYBRID please .
if they made a trailsport odyssey....WOW. Honestly, I think i just hate how the new odyssey have such large wheels. I liked it when it had beefy tires and small rims.
Is this a late April Fools joke? Aside from still no hybrid, how are the exterior changes an improvement? The new nose reminds me of a 2000 Nissan Quest. And what's with that ugly slot in the bumper? And the ugly vertical rear reflectors? FAIL.
If currently Honda has not made any designs or have a hybrid Odyssey in the works then Honda should be skip the hybrid and go straight to BEV or PHEV. Even if they roll it out ten years from now. After 2035 automakers will want 90% of their line as PHEVs, BEVs, and/or FCEVs. It makes no sense to develop a hybrid platform for one or two model cycles.
Will Honda have an AWD option for the refreshed 2025 Odyssey, with better ground clearance? Will the bulletproof V6 be available in the Elite models? Great 👍 preview of what's coming out from Honda!
Tbh the new one feels like a downgrade. The outgoing model has a full digital cluster. Now it only has half. The screen is an inch bigger but same software. The odyssey has become stale. Needs a full refresh and a hybrid powertrain.
I don't like the cluster gauge which is half digital half analog. Come on Honda, make it a 12" LCD screen OR a traditional dual analog gauges RPM and MPH.
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Any difference that makes no difference, IS no difference! The instrument cluster is like my 2013! But wifie says to buy a 2025, so guess that’s what I’ll do.
Honda is so lazy with this car. They haven’t fully redesigned it since 2018.. that’s almost 6-7 years. It’s been getting minor refreshes, but it’s clear that this is the most dated out of all the minivans on the market. Compare this to the new Kia carnival, the odyssey looks like it’s stuck in 2018 while all the other minivans are updated to 2024/2025 styling. This is disappointing
I test drove both recently. The Kia drives worse and has a less well thought out interior. Better glitz and tech for sure but attached to a worse vehicle. Kia also really messed up the climate/infotainment controls by going to that touch screen where you have to toggle back and forth.
I will be absolutely devastated if the Honda Odyssey no longer offers a gas powered vehicle and goes strictly hybrid and/or strictly electric. Electric is just subpar: hour long charging, super expensive battery replacement, drastic reduction in cargo space due to the large battery.
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Let me know what you want to see MOST on the next-gen Odyssey?
- AWD
- hybrid/phev/
- 360 camera
- HUD
- Space Hub or bust
Removable center console in the front row, just like the 3rd and 4th gen
I just bought a 2013 Odyssey w/ 165k miles. I took out the seats and camp in the back. I HAD a taco and a tundra but the minivan is perfect for stealth camping. I can just go into the back w/o going outside. Plenty of storage! smooth for long trips. and GREAT MPG. ITS NOT JUST FOR KIDS!
N/A hybrid engine. No turbos
@@pashadri this 100%, same 3.5L
if im completly honest here the styling is kinda love it or hate it. its definitly better than the old one tho
Having grown kids now I really do not need a minivan anymore. But as everyone knows the layout of a minivan makes the average daily life soooo much easier and practical.
And lets be honest, once you are over 30 years old, who do you REALLY think you're trying to impress with what you drive? And do you really care?
Even though it has gotten updated, I do feel like more should have been done....
Everyone wants more tech, so at least it has the latest infotainment setup & the newer Honda guages. Only thing I wish they added is new headlight with the split design they all have
@@lryoung17 I agree. I also wish that they add AWD, 360 camera, an LX trim, and full led tailights
@@JoshScott-v7j Agreed, especially AWD & the 360. Let's hope the 360 is an option now that maybe just wasn't listed because every other competitor has that. 🤦🏽♂️
@@lryoung17 I wonder why Honda didn't just redesign the Odyssey. I mean the new platform is right there in the Pilot. If they want to add a hybrid option, add it later!
@@JoshScott-v7jI'm gonna assume because the demand isn't as strong as other segments, & it's selling well in its class so they just wanna update it enough to keep it in it's spot while they figure out how to electrify it. That's what it seems like Chrysler is doing as well. The Pacifica is even older 🙃
Honda being hella lazy-
Yeah this van is really outdated we are going on 8 years at this point like redesign it already it has already had like 3 refreshes at this point plus the ugly rear end design cars normally get 1 refresh during there model cycle
1st refresh = 2020
2nd refresh = 2022
3rd refresh = 2025
As a honda fanboy, I am totally agreed with you. They have been so lazy in terms of keep their vehicles updated.
@@daniel-o3e5l I just want a hybrid odyssey!!!
It’s a best move for Honda and also the owners. I prefer this than an Odyssey with turbo
It’s beyond aggravating how there is so little investment in minivans. It’s like 2 generations behind the Pilot let alone every other SUV out there. I have an X7 and I would PAY for a Acura-fied Odyssey with the type-S powertrain and 4WD. Honda/Acura, there is a market for luxury minivans!!
Back in 2018 I was looking at the Odyssey and the Sienna with my wife she fell in love with the 2019 Odyssey. The van is very comfortable
If the refresh had a hybrid, it would kill the Sienna. It doesn't even need to be as efficient, even if it was 10-15% less.
mini van makes sense all together! to be honest! unless you need that OEM GROUND CLEARANCE. The mini van is the best option! not a cop magnet, Thief Magnet, Vandal Magnet etc. etc. etc. No one would bat an eye at a mini van! why hasn't any luxury maker truly made a luxury mini van in the USA MARKET! just BAFFLES ME! as much as I love SUV's the sliding Doors are the biggest selling points! and the third row is best! without having the vehicle be such a BOAT!
They do have a Lexus LM minivan and it's pretty luxurious, but of course, it's not in the US :(
@@duckinghamdallas yes I know that, and why I Specifically said in the USA Market. also the LEXUS LM is a niche mini van lol or MVP as they call it.. the price is ABSURD and the escalade at that price point makes more sense.
Toyota Aphards are limo Siennas. Big in Asia, but US mindset is lacking.
Lx600 has that but no space for cargo if the 3rd row seat is use
No one buys them. Minivan sales are mostly on a decline. Someone who wants something luxurious will just go buy an escalade. It offers similar room but looks much more upscale, can tow their fancy boat they probabaly own which a minivan can't, or mayve they will need the 4wd to go up to the fancy ski resort and cabin they go to every year.
Papa Kirk, You are so correct, the Odyssey is overdue for a 35 mpg AWD hybrid to catch up with Sienna. The Sienna needs to upgrade their ergonomics to match Honda's minivan.
Today's Mega-Minivans need to be able to easily carry a sheet of plywood. 😁
Many owners still prefer ICE without screaming hybrid engine.
The Honda interior packaging is far better than the Toyota. That combined with the Toyota powertrain would be perfect.
@@alexmassengale433 Ever since 'TNGA' came along, Toyota has been in a real slump when it comes to interior space efficiency and ergonomics. Honda could teach them many lessons in this area.
4 kids and I thought I was king of the jungle. 5 kids 👏🏽 congratulations. Minivan 4 life 😊
Great to see the Odyssey using actual NSX exterior parts (rear vertical reflectors).😂
Well…that is where the so hated lobster claws taillights came from as well. When I point this out to people they always say, “well it’s not as noticeable as it is on the NSX as it is the Accord.” Yeah, sure…we just love to hate the Accord.
@@jr1885 rdx has it too
360 Camera and HUD is a must. I had a 21 Odyssey for a short spell and it definitely needed these items. Gas mileage in the city was so so but it was great on the highway. A hybrid would help.
My kids are grown, and out of the house. We have 2 large dogs, and enjoy Cycling so I think we’ll have a minivan for some time. It’s nice to have the space for people when company is in town, and can bring you own new TV home without delivery.
I wish they did more. We were really hoping for a Hybrid. I’d like to have seen more of the current interior design like the new Pilot. I do like the new instrument cluster. I’m not a fan of the current setup.
They really mailed in this update. They need a 360 camera in upper trims like you can get in a Pilot or MDX. They have the technology!
we purchased 2024 odyssey elite back in march. I have say according to my opinion the odyssey has the best exterior design in the minivan segment.
all seats are comfort and has fair amount of space for all passengers. from the elite trim we have double painted window both front and middle improve so much for the quality of driving. the 3.5 v6 nature aspirated produces decent amount of power and gets us so much confident to carry totally of 7 people for roadtrip.
however for model year of 2024 even on top of the line still missing /hud/ 360camera/ awd not even comes in to the option/ wireless charger is nothing but making your phone warmer/hotter/ small size of screen and lack of function.
caution: middle&rear air vents aren't locate on the roof which isn't carseat friendly specially for rear facing carseat.
we live in arizona and I can tell you the air conditioner is completely disaster in summer, I sent it back to dealer they told me nothing wrong it just because the smaller of compressor compare to the older generation of Honda ). but if you don't live in the very hot state I think you should be alright.
I think the next generation Odyssey will come as a 2027 MY. The Passport got a second refresh for the 2024 MY and is getting redesigned for the 2026 MY.
Let's hope! 🤞
Same with Ridgeline
I'm a proud owner of a 2007 Odyssey. Was looking forward to 2025 model being more than just a refresh. Would love a hybrid & AWD...
i had been a odyssey owner driver since 1995, 1999, 2002 and 2008 and 2010
Honda needs to put some work in Odyssey in term of reliability and moving to full EV
the current hybrid works well city but gutless on highway
Pilot has moved to Dual Cam
not sure if next Odyssey will get same DHOC
odyssey needs to add the critical deal-breakers: which are: awd option. pano-roof option. 360-cam option. and engine timing belt absolutely must be replaced by chain or gear. and finally plugin option with extra large battery option and cng fuel option. also off-road trim option like with high clearance and some other light-off-roading features. and odyssey will become a number one van ever.
We have a 22 exl. No need to upgrade thanks for the vid!
Awd and a hybrid would be nice. A traditonal gear shifter or steering column shifter is better then the push button. Honda is being lazy. Had an 05 odyssey, now a 22 carnival. So disappointing on no redesign
Thank God I got the base EX Odyssey in 2024. Honda just wiped out 20% of sales by taking out the EX. Leather seats especially Acura and Honda deteriorate badly after 5 years. I have had the leather in my Acura replaced 3 times while my old 1989 Honda Accord cloth seat still look fairly new. I also do not need a sunroof and power lift gate. More things to go wrong, adds weight and reduces space. Love the 2025 instrument cluster. Classy and clear round dials. The bumper tweak is nice. Hope they improved Android Auto because in my 2024 it is unusable and constantly disengages. I am using a stick on Garmin instead. I wish they would offer Navigation as an option on all models. If they are doing a Hybrid in 2027/28 they better make it a V6 hybrid because the Sienna is way too noisy and has no power for people who carry cargo. Plus Honda cannot compete with the reliable if noisy Sienna 4 Cylinder Hybrid. The suspension on the Honda Odyssey sags badly under a load so I will put in coil overs and 19 inch wheels with 245/50-19 tires at some stage. Now if they could do a type S Honda Odyssey with navigation. I would buy it in a heartbeat. Even with the stupid leather. Many luxury makers are offering cloth as a luxury option. It is simple better.
The last Honda/Acura product with the VTech J35
@@CARBONHAWK1 ridgeline still has it. It didn’t get the DOHC and 10 speed from the pilot
Toyota World on RUclips leaked a mid-cycle refresh for the ‘25 sienna w/ updated infotainment, digital gauge & facelift. That being said, how long til redesign? 2-3yrs? Getting a ‘24 XLE this week, but plan to hand down to Mrs & get a ‘27/‘28, hoping by then we see major changes (perhaps a Prime..!).
2024 Chevy Traverse has 360 camera, full LED lightning, heated seats, heated steering wheel, remote start, AutoSense power lift gate, massive 17.7in infotainment and 11in gauge cluster, etc ALL STANDARD ON EVEN THE BASE LS TRIM FOR 39K (which includes destination).
Anyone buying the Odyssey over a Carnival or Traverse are brain dead, no offense. Only thing the Odyssey offers is a bit better handling and a bit more speed. And I guess the vacuum? I'm a die hard minivan guy but the new Traverse looks so appealing in design, standard features, and the turbo engine (even if it isn't too refined at WOT its good enough for daily driving).
Turbo engine from Chevy LOL, good luck with that.
These are 2 completely different vehicles to compare.
I was considering Traverse but ran away after researching about all the reliability issues, and how GM treats its customers.
@@simplelife2967 it's a modified version of the 2.7L used in the Silverados and other cars. It's definitely decent.
The honda oddyssey already has a long wheel base, they might as well make it an EV, its more practical than the Pilot and Ridgeline, it makes more sense too since the mini van isn't used much for towing and it's more low to the ground, and adding two electric motors gives it AWD 🙏🏽
They're probably buying time to see where the market goes. I'm surprised they've sold as many this year already
I’ll be the odd ball and admit that I really like the new Kia Carnival Hybrid. I wish it had AWD and better storage spaces but the looks are amazing.
I test drove the regular and the Honda recently. Kia had nicer screens and cameras for sure but a less useful interior layout and it drove worse. They also really messed up the infotainment/climate control setup.
It seems like minivans don't get redesigned that often. The last generation Toyota Sienna was in production from 2011-20 and the Chrysler Pacifica has been around since 2017. But I do feel minivans are the best road trip vehicles due to it's space and ride comfort.
8 inch ground clearance?
5 kids,,! man you're brave guy. I planned 3 before marriage, now 2 are driving me bananas.😂
I’m my perspective, I think Honda should have added a fully digital display and the surround view monitor on the elite and touring trims
And Toyota is already adding a full on their top trim levels
Especially since you can get those things on the Pilot..
I'm gonna put NSX rear reflectors on my Ruckus now.
Honda missed the mark on the 2025 Honda Odyssey. Instead of a refresh they should’ve given it a whole redesign with a new 4 cylinder as the first gen model had. But of course now with a hybrid/ pev powertrain with awd as option to compete with its competitors. Hence marking 30 Years since its introduction.
They’re so lazy they haven’t redesigned the odyssey since 2018 which is almost 6-7 years ago. It’s already so dated compared to it’s competitors like the sienna or carnival
NOT.... Don't think you know what you're talking about.
My 2018 is rolling just fine after 115,000 miles.
we have four kids. So ya mini van is a must. However the prices of them are just way out of wack. The prices here in Canada when we bought a 2016 Odyssey base lx was 36000. Now a "base" is in the 50000 range. Just too much.
Before Killing the J35, Honda should make a TypeR version.
Honda made a DOHC V6 that is compliant until at least 2030, and that replaces the VTEC. Hopefully that stays. Turbo 4 engines are terrible when compared to V6 smoothness and refinement. Honda has made the J engine since 1997 so it would suck if they stopped making it.
I say this as a Honda guy (I have 3 right now) ... did Honda address road/wind noise at highway speeds?? Loud interiors seem to be a 'feature' of Hondas.
OMG OMG LESS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOW SWAP A K20A IN IT
What in the world is going on over here
@@ryanjohnson4565 i feel like new gen odysseys need some modifications to, bisimoto's is the newest modifiied honda, most just modifiy 1st-3rd gens.
Just purchased the Elite today. I would say they feel short in the tech and interior leather colors. I’m not thrilled with the tires Bridgestone. Having them replaced with Pirelli Weather Active. It seems like the storage areas go smaller. I’m glad to see the vacuum cleaner gone and still miss the refrigerator. Still have a lot of exploring to do. Even so not all of us have kids to carry around I would like to have seen an Odyssey Type R. If I really would have gotten my choice I would have chosen the CX 90 Premium Plus
The Bridgestone tires are excellent and will last at least 60,000 miles
@ I have four tires mentioned for sale. If you’re interested
We have a 2019 Odyssey & nothing else is practical for a family. It looks like Honda is buying time with a 2nd (mid cycle) refresh to come up with a hybrid?!
A few sources have described minor 2025 Sienna updates, including updated infotainment and MID, colors, but still TSS 2.0. Have you gotten confirmation of those details?
Minivan is the KING of cars!!! Fight me.
I don't care what people say, i love my odyssey. The space is unbeatable, only a suburban has more space and it drives like a pilot.
The new Honda van needs to have a Hybrid engine.
Why
@wallbangerzsports why not?
@@byhsu6140 cause they're more complex. and have more parts that will break. Any more brain busters, Einstein??
@wallbangerzsports then why does the CR-V have a hybrid? As well as the Accord, and soon the Civic? Explain that Einstein.
@@wallbangerzsports Toyota hybrids last a really long time. Not sure about that new turbo-Kia hybrid motor though.
Bummer, was hoping for some more additions and updates.
They are being so lazy they haven’t fully redesigned it since 2018 which is coming up on 6-7 years ago..
Why doesn't it get the twin cam V6 engine that is being put in other vehicles in the same factory? Should it?
The new J35Y8 has no performance nor fuel efficiency improvement over the Y6, and Y8 also ditched VTEC, this new engine is only built to be "cleaner" to drop NOx output. I think Honda is only fitting it in the Pilot so far, and the new Passport of course.
So they added NSX tailights. Weird flex lol😊
Why does the Elite not have the black 20-inch wheels 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Second gen was the best design wise imo
Hybrid Hybrid Hybrid. We want a odyssey hybrid!!!!
Best now gets even better all around and inside and out.
Sad, this lack of changes make KIA more and more appealing.
Yea the Carnival is much better received than the Sedona
But Kia is a horrible car.
Maybe if it wasn’t called CARNIVAL
But Hyundai and Kia cars are the “Chinese cars of North America” for a reason.
Problem is the Kia drives worse and that matters.
We have a 2021 Odyssey and we do not like how when you lay down the rear seats that it has a dip down toward the front of the vehicle. Does the 2025 seats lay flat or do they have the little hump down toward the front?
The Odyssey in Asian market looks soo awesome. This one isn’t changed look wise from 2018 and is now a meh 🤦♂️🤦♂️
When I went van shopping last year it was and still is here impossible to get a sienna. The odyssey was (still is) very expensive, only top trim available anywhere doesn’t help. The Pacifica I didn’t want to entertain as it has some reliability issues. Ended up getting the Kia Carnival.
It’s not perfect but it has been more than sufficient for my needs with 3 (going on 4 kids). Step up from base came with all I wanted besides adaptive cruse. For the $20k I paid less than the odyssey would have been, it has been blissful.
I would love to see Honda make a hybrid Odyssey but not on the current platform it’s sitting on.
No 360 camera??? This is my wife's list have for a family vehicle.
Same
Why don’t you just learn how to drive correctly
@@wallbangerzsports Why don't you shut up and get a life
It is a big miss considering they put it in the Pilot.
I would think the next gen Odyssey would get the next gen hybrid system. Honda has invested too much in that system to not incorporate it into a vehicle that currently has 1/3 market share in its segment. If they go exclusively EV with it, they will lose most of that market share. The only reason for going EV only would be if minivan sales tank over the next 2-3 years - then you have less to lose. But those decisions need to be made sooner than later so I would think they'll incorporate the new hybrid system into the Odyssey.
Well the Honda Odessey is out of competition, for me not waiting until 2028
What we all really want is details of the 2025 Sienna.
I really hope toyota gets rid of the small screen they have on their van
Do you prefer the sienna or odyssey
Odyssey
Sienna
Odessey has a more flexible interior with 8 seats in all configurations and a removable second row. Toyota has the more efficient power train but at the markups dealers in my area are charging, you might never make up the cost difference.
Ody looks the same. Classic
Honda removed water temperature gage from 2025 cluster. Why ?
Honda Odyssey FWD Hybrid 🎉❤😊 Next Generation PHEV (Optional)🇺🇲🇨🇦
When will we get a new ridgeline hybrid
Planning on a trip has been hard enough. Haha so true
It’s like honda has to do update it based on how much the honda odyssey is mentioned in deadpool & wolverine.
It still looks the same. I would expect a refresh like this 2-3 years ago. I will say this time and time again. Honda has always been a day late and a dollar short when it comes to design and technology.
Yet they still sell extremely well! No one actually cares about gay technology crap
@@wallbangerzsports Mr homophobic bitch. Everyone single person cars about technology and more. Stop using the word nobody instead just say you.
just started the video.. hoping for bigger screen and possible awd.. for wide and growing family
Why don’t you watch the video before you comment, Einstein
No option for fabric seats is a misstep. In Florida weather leather or fake leather are not optimal. Fabric breaths much better, and does not get hot.
Thank you a lot !!
Needs a major redesign!
Looks like Honda is not on my shopping list. I was hoping for new looks.
I’m so glad there’s no major changes especially staying with the NA engine.
Still no 360 cameras, sucks.
So, you don’t know how to drive a little minivan?
@@wallbangerzsportsover 200 inches and you think it’s “little?”
I feel the same about road trips in an EV . Nothing but horror stories ( Broken Chargers - Cars "parked " at Chargers , no Owner in sight - Range Anxiety ) . Dear Honda 3.5 Liter HYBRID please .
they need AWD would have picked up one by now if they had this option
if they made a trailsport odyssey....WOW. Honestly, I think i just hate how the new odyssey have such large wheels. I liked it when it had beefy tires and small rims.
Honda needs to fix the tiny 9 inch LCD screen! Come on, its 2024, even my cell phone screen is bigger than that!
Honda remove water temperature gage from 2025. Why ?
They should’ve changed the exterior lighting. That’s a big thing people notice. Miss
I’m pretty sure no one cares, you crumb bum
Is this a late April Fools joke? Aside from still no hybrid, how are the exterior changes an improvement? The new nose reminds me of a 2000 Nissan Quest. And what's with that ugly slot in the bumper? And the ugly vertical rear reflectors? FAIL.
Just say you can’t afford it, you base model crumb
I wish they would make roof rack standard. And trailer hitch $700 add-on even with the elite 🙄
Where's the Hybrid? 😢
Honda needs to figure out how to fold second row flat. Struggling with a 60+ lbs seat trying to remove it when you are older is murder on your back.
Toyota too. Also can make the seat lighter by using thinner padding and space frame.
When are they gonna make a hybrid version
Lack of a hybrid is a BIG MISS.
No one cares TiteAnus
If currently Honda has not made any designs or have a hybrid Odyssey in the works then Honda should be skip the hybrid and go straight to BEV or PHEV. Even if they roll it out ten years from now. After 2035 automakers will want 90% of their line as PHEVs, BEVs, and/or FCEVs. It makes no sense to develop a hybrid platform for one or two model cycles.
Will Honda have an AWD option for the refreshed 2025 Odyssey, with better ground clearance? Will the bulletproof V6 be available in the Elite models? Great 👍 preview of what's coming out from Honda!
EX-L is the lowest trim? Ugg, bring back base models so average people can afford one.
Where is the AWD ☠️?
No one needs AWD, just learn how to drive like a man
@@wallbangerzsports your are not man . so don't try to lecture others.specialy when you are just a Russian bot
Good, maybe it wont look so much like a hearse this time.
It’s literally the same body shape, smart guy.
Tbh the new one feels like a downgrade. The outgoing model has a full digital cluster. Now it only has half. The screen is an inch bigger but same software. The odyssey has become stale. Needs a full refresh and a hybrid powertrain.
Honda will do a JV with VW for an electric minivan. Just like all the other JV and collabs honda has been doing for new electrified models.
I don't like the cluster gauge which is half digital half analog. Come on Honda, make it a 12" LCD screen OR a traditional dual analog gauges RPM and MPH.
Kia seems like a better option. Just my opinion.
The people actually buying minivans disagree, a fact.
It drives worse. And it has less thoughtfully designed interior spaces and worse ergonomics. Much better cameras and screens though.
Not according to Deadpool & Wolverine
How do you make the time to make videos with 5 kiddos? Asking for a dad 🙃
It’s called having a good Florida wife and not some liberal Karen
@@wallbangerzsports HEY STFU MR COCKWOMBLE jerk punk and daft cow. No one needs advice from you how to judge a woman because you are just a political hack. You have posted 18 comments like a lunatic with a mental disorder. So stop going to every other comment then trying to lecture others. talk like this outside the internet someone will teach you bloody good lesson. Which you will never forget. So F*** OFF
@@wallbangerzsports 🤣
@@Bitmerch 👍
Any difference that makes no difference, IS no difference!
The instrument cluster is like my 2013!
But wifie says to buy a 2025, so guess that’s what I’ll do.
Honda is so lazy with this car. They haven’t fully redesigned it since 2018.. that’s almost 6-7 years. It’s been getting minor refreshes, but it’s clear that this is the most dated out of all the minivans on the market. Compare this to the new Kia carnival, the odyssey looks like it’s stuck in 2018 while all the other minivans are updated to 2024/2025 styling. This is disappointing
I test drove both recently. The Kia drives worse and has a less well thought out interior. Better glitz and tech for sure but attached to a worse vehicle. Kia also really messed up the climate/infotainment controls by going to that touch screen where you have to toggle back and forth.
I will be absolutely devastated if the Honda Odyssey no longer offers a gas powered vehicle and goes strictly hybrid and/or strictly electric. Electric is just subpar: hour long charging, super expensive battery replacement, drastic reduction in cargo space due to the large battery.