🛻📽️7.3 POWERSTROKE SURGING IDLE AND BUCKING 🚧🛑⛽🛻
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For those wondering, you CAN get a brand new main engine harness still. Riff Raff Diesel sells them. You just have to send them your VIN so they can make sure they send you the correct harness. So no you don’t have to rebuild your old harness anymore.
@@hawkeye1776, sweet. I have only changed out my ICP and CAM sensor. Haven’t had to change out the harness because mine is in good shape still. I just so happened to stumble upon riff raff selling harnesses by accident and i kept that in mind when the time comes ever since.
@@hawkeye1776, cool! I haven’t had the need to replace all the sensors yet since mine is still a baby at 158K. Really only replaced the CAM sensor as a precautionary measure. Had to replace the ICP because it was just starting to leak through to the connector but the connector was undamaged.
@@hawkeye1776, i’ve been a master diesel tech for years as well. I never said anything about building an engine that will blow up at 100K. I know how to build a diesel engine. My 7.3L fuel system has already been fully upgraded minus a sump and FASS or Airdog fuel pump (which will be next). I have a fuel return kit already installed so there will be no “deadhead” issues with the fuel.
And in reality the turbo for any year 7.3L is too small for the size of the engine. The Garrett GT38R or a turbo from KC turbos or Ryan’s diesel service are a drastic improvement over stock or even a factory housing with upgraded internals.
Early 1999 F250:
I have a totally different surging. Engine is cold and surging 1,000 rpm’s every minute. On Forscan you can visually see the IPR build until it crashes at or around 40%. It smooths back out for a few seconds and surges again. It does this until the oil temp gets to 160 degrees and then I’m good. I still have the bucking in 1st & 2nd gears though.
All New;
Main Harness, Valve Cover Harnesses, Fuel Pump, Fuel Pressure at 62 with no drops in pressure, Ford ICP, IPR, every sensor has been changed out with Ford brand, High Voltage IDM, Stage 1 High Pressure Oil Pump, Hybrid 180cc 80% nozzle injectors, Gas Peddle, Transmission, Slave Cylinder & so much more. I have spent over $4,000 chasing this problem not counting Transmission, it had 423,000 miles on it and was tired. Problem started after 37,000 miles on rebuilt motor. I have videos of the Forscan numbers during operation showing IPR numbers. Truck has 53,000 miles on rebuilt engine and 423,000 over all. I’ve learned to live with it instead of keep throwing money at it, but would be nice to get it figured out.
@@johnhof5657, does your ICP pressure hold strong? May have a failing stage 1 pump even though you’ve recently replaced it. Or it can be a situation where your low pressure pump is having a hard time delivering the oil needed for the high pressure pump to operate correctly.
I don’t know what us 7.3 freaks would do without ya Clint love ur channel it’s a life saver ♥️✌🏼
I have 7.3 lov it. Thanks for all great videos. Use to watch Bill on 7.3 but he passed away. I believe I can still bring up his videos too.
5:18 ICP Sound
6:25 IPR Sound
8:44 CPS Sound 1
9:04 CPS Sound 2
Thanks again. Now I'm pretty sure it's my IPR.
Was it?
After I swapped out the chinesium IPC, IPR and cam sensor, my truck started running great again. There are certain things in life that you can't save money on and that is those three items. Buy verified OEM only. Had to replace several connectors, but the wiring in the truck isn't too bad for a 99.5 model. I installed new Alliant injectors as well, because it still had original Ford installed injectors with 317k miles and cylinder #1 was not getting enough fuel. That cylinder was a dead miss, wasn't contributing. #6 and #8 seemed to run hotter than the rest, so just did all injectors and glow plugs at that point and now the truck starts/runs like a brand new diesel, thanks in great part to your videos. Love it. Also installed a Powerstroke 6.4 liter starter and now it cranks so fast you think it's at idle speed before it even lights off.
Clint, you are a 7.3 wizard. Thanks for all the info and great advice. Take Care Be Safe
Thanks for all the good videos
Always enjoy your content and delivery.
Thanks a ton! perfect timing for this video, my 97 is doing this right now
Thank you for your work Iam new to the 7.3
Life saver. God bless you
Great video thanks for the good info... 225K on my 7.3
Right on
Bill, Ron, Dave and now this guy! Great stuff
Which channel is Dave? Ain’t heard of him
@@Cfass1 Dave’s auto center
Thanks Clint, helped heaps. Fantastic content and very well explained. All the best from Down under.
Thanks
Clint thanks you have been my go-to everytime I had any trouble with my ob's 7.3. I have a question about what I need to do with all the extra plugs left over after my fuel bowl delete and efuel install etc. Please and thank you Sir.
Still watching!!
Thanks again Clint! 97 auto here, got all my goodies from riff raff. Truck was doing strange things at 45 mph, check engine would come on and felt like someone else was pressing gas pedal. New oem icp installed and that issue has gone away. Still waiting on oil sample from black stone. And haven’t had the time for ccv catch can yet. Your insight on these trucks are amazing. The time and $ you have saved me are unimaginable. How is the obs project coming along? Still waiting on blacksone results
Your the best
Your the best.im still waiting for the last video on the crank case vent mod .i got a dog house
Thanks for the info Clint again a great helpful video makes the 7.3 easy to understand and rock the road and is still cheaper then a new one at 80.000$ hahahahaa pavement princess
Awesome video- think I’m having ICP issues, would get really noisy clatter & then just instantly quit down
Clint surging idle on 01 7.3 follows intermittent windshield wipers, no surge on highest setting or off. Surge seems a bid more dramatic with lights on.
I have a 97 7.3 with 228k ml, my issue with a surging idle happens whether it's cold or hot and is a more aggressive romp from like 700 to 1200 rpm and will not stop til I push a little on accelerator. Now if I change the tune 1 step up on the hydra from stock it won't do it, one person told me it was the trans selector on the side of the transmission. Thanks
Clint, this is off the subject. I have a 2001 f250 7.3. I got new, and I only have 69000 miles on it. I keep up with all the maintenance on it. But was wondering if there is anything I need to do on it being its 23 years old. No tunes in it don't care for them. I need to change the icp out after watching your video. I went and checked it and had oil in it. I use it mostly to pull our camper around, and I keep it parked in my shop when not using it. Last camp trip we had a few bad rain and cold weather went to start it and started no problem then check engine light came on and I had no petal went light went out 3 to 5 seconds i had petal again. Did it all the way back home, pulling camper. Then it was like it would buck like in over drive when leaving red light. Anything i really need to look at. Sorry so long. Thanks ahead of time. AL
If anyone can help out I’d appreciate it. I have a 97 7.3 with 387k on it. Not sure if it’s the original engine, minimal blow my like normal, white steam but the no pressure, the cap doesn’t even move. I’ve never tested compression but honestly I doubt it’s bad. This engine runs fantastic! Extremely smooth, and very powerful. Blue smoke at cold idle and no smoke when warm, both cases have a heavy fuel smell that burns your eyes, enough that I ended up installing a cat onto my straight piped exhaust…
Turbo rebuilt
160/0 injectors installed
Hydra tuned for these injectors
New injector o rings (motor craft)
New glow plugs
New GP controller
New UVCH
New valve cover gasket
New HPOP
Like I said with all these new parts she just purrs. But stinks
Next I’m trying a new IPR.. I think In general my issue is over fueling or unburnt fuel. Either from a tired fuel pump, sticking IPR or new injectors are bad? It smoked before I replaced them too
Any thoughts?
Clint, I wish you could do 6.0 tech talk for all us 6.0 lovers out here. We’ve lost Ron and now Bill 😢. Lots of 6 liters out there and we’re keeping them going. 💪🏼🇺🇸🦅
My AIT sensor will do that to my idle I couldn’t figure it out. Looking at a scan tool I noticed it was reading all over the place. I replaced it and it stopped but if I unplug it will come back. Not sure why that is but I can send you a video of it plugged in and unplug it and it will start doing the fluctuating idle.
Very good info. Have some electric problems with a 7.3 early 99, April 15 1998 engine mfg date. Received a new engine wire harness which was incorrect for this engine, in process of correcting problem. Original symptoms were weak crank, check engine light stayed on about 2 minutes light goes off immediately rpm surge followed by irratic running of engine. As the engine warms it levels out andruns smoothly, however has a tendency to surge at low speeds. Also the alternator got quite hot quickly on starting ( had slight current feed back with key off in plug for wires) short in alt? brush dust at fields to armature? Will replace with new alternator. Checking harness for damage, hopefully can get the correct new one . Anyway, thanks for your invaluable information. Great video.
Wow that IPR sound is what i have when it warms up, i call it the old freight train sound but it only does it warm and im pretty sure i changed the IPR, they are not cheap. I wonder if cleaning it will help?
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1997 2wd 7.3 10 sec after start up (perfect idle) idle jumps iratic like it's running on 3 cylinders, but improves just a little when idle for a lengthof time (new wire harness from Swag) new icp, ipr, cam sensors, new IDM, ICP still not fixed problem fault resets everytime key on and off but on while running
New ECM as well
Could be the injectors
Similar to mine and replacing all the same parts as you. Checked fuel pressure and it was at 94 psi. Previous owner installed the blue spring in regulator. I put stock spring back in, idles perfect. Similar but I had no fault codes.
Hey Clint love your videos. I have a 99 7.3 have P1211, P1209, P0470, P0472, P1281. I have changed the ipr, icp, EBP with a new tube. Truck is still idling rough. Help.
Thank you so much for taking the time to post all your videos. Can 1 bad injector cause the truck to run for a second then die? 02 powerstroke. Frustrated to the point of throwing parts at it. Parts thrown-new valve harness and under valve harness, new wire harness, new cps (ford), new ipr, new icm, new pcm. Everything ohms correctly at the icm plug. Even the #3 injector that is throwing po267 (low to high open) and p1273 (high to low open). New injector on the way, but would think the truck would still start and run with one bad injector. The wires look good where they cross over the valve cover. It starts right up, runs good for a second then very rough then dies. I can put my foot on the gas pedal when I start it and it will start, rev up, run rough then die. Tried unplugging the ICP same results. Fuel pump easily fills the bowl, but have not checked the pressure yet as the pump is newer. I really thought I was chasing a wiring-sensor-module problem. After reading back through this post I think it might be on the fuel side. Sorry this is so long. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Ive heard if the IDM detects a short like that it can shut down the entire bank of injectors to protect itself
"A short like that" meaning what? He didn't mention any particular short so can you be more specific & how it relates to his symptoms? I've literally been trying to fix my '02 Lariat 4x4 for YEARS and NO ONE seems to know they're ass from a hole in the ground!! After watching Clint's video, I'm thinking all the ground wires & connections are what I need to check! I've literally spent thousands upon thousands with multiple diesel mechanics that have NEVER resolved my problem and I've discovered that it's primarily CAC (Con Artist Communication) at their best! They BS their way through everything they aren't capable of fixing, take your money & then leave you & your family stranded in the middle of no where on I-95N on Thanksgiving Eve night! So when I read all these comments, every word carries a lot of weight for me so they need to make sense!
@@keithace1 I'm speculating, but I believe he was talking about the internal short in the injector that I had listed as bad, and was throwing the codes.
Hey CustomWorks, what would cause one to idle "different/not as smooth" after replacing the lift pump?
Mornin,ive followed your instructions about several things on my 7.3, i replaced the wiring harness,the IPR OEM and the ICP OEM and the exhaust sensor and the hpop,PCM and the valve cover gaskets,the fuel bowl OEM and a fuel tank mod,so my problem is after doing all this it ran great then about 2 wks ago the truck just lost power,and when i start go to start it it turns over then starts and misses for a couple of minutes. NEED HELP> Thanks
Hey clint My 99 sd has the slight surge all the time cold or hot since the day I bought it can the icp still be the issue or is it only when hot like you mentioned in video? Or is it something else?
Mine too, let me know if you solve it thanks!
Hi Clint, new sub here. I have an 01 excursion 7.3 289k. The engine will hiccup, like hitting a kill switch on a gas engine for a millisecond. Not just one cylinder, all cut out for a second. It’s usually around 2k rpm. I’ve replaced CPS and ICP sensors. Harness over left valve cover has been repaired after rubbing through on the valve cover. I’ve been driving it like this for years. Sometimes, no miss, other times, really bad. No check engine light. Cheap scanner shows no codes. Help!
Thanks from Florida 🇺🇸
i really need help , i have 2000 7.3 with idle surge issues along with a weird shake when reving coming back down to idle, as well as it stalling out if i hold it to 3k rpm and letting go this was all tested in park at warm temps, please help
My 99.5 does the 50-70 thing at idle but whats weird is it does an injector surge at precisely 1600rpm. Runs quite and fine under that rpm and runs loud and fine over that rpm. If I'm running around 1600rpm in high gear it bucks like a manual trans when you are driving to slow in too high a gear. This is with almost no throttle input at all. If it bucks, and I press the throttle down , it goes away.
Mine does this real bad unplugged the icp and stopped right away new Icp so I have a wire problem ?
Hi'
I have a 95 powerstoke 7.3 and the bluetooth scanner no conect to the ecu.?? What i need to do.
Thanks
So my truck fluctuates from just below idle up to about 1000 rpm what could that be?
Clint how about when you first start in morning? Surges. ICP Plug dry. Live in warm climate. Had 179k. Would do it one day. Then not for a while. Thank you. 99 sir..
Do you have a video on the p1211 code, mines doing the same surging at idle and throwing the code every once in a while
Check his playlists.
Hey Clint I have an 02 f250 7.3 powerstroke it's knocking like crazy. But when I get the rpms up it goes away. I think it's a injector or glow plug. What do you think?
My 95 f250 has a bad fluctuating tach even drops off causes a intermittent stall and the wait to start lights up but keeps goin so far got new batteries few days ago and a new cam sensor still has the issue the tach jumping way more then this video is throwing me off things original never had a issue till a day ago HELP
I have a 2000 model that surges and dies during the warmup cycle, does not do it when it gets to operating temperature.
Has anybody dealt with having too high of a fuel pressure causing the injectors to leak and causing rougher idle that way?
I had a 3-4 second long crank when starting on 104k mile 01 7.3 I bought. It drove me nuts for months. I replaced all sensors with oem, glow plugs, engine harness, fuel filters, injector o rings, under valve cover harness, hutch mod install and ipr. Still long crank! Checked fuel pressure….94 psi. Previous owner installed blue spring. I installed new oem spring with fuel bowl rebuild. Starts instantly now! I also had occasional rough idle, that stopped too.
Hey Clint, what do you prefer? A manual 7.3 or an automatic 7.3?
Manual all the way 6 spd zf650 easy to rebuild doesn't leave you sitting But the highest purpose is towing which is what all my trucks do in the fleet
@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD thankyou for the fast reply and good info! Love your videos too by the way. I will definitely be looking for a 6 spd when I get a 7.3 for my business in the future!
Driving along, check engine light appears, rpm gives a slight drop and stays there. Put it in neutral, cycle the key off then restart, engine light doesn't reappear, RPM normal.
Ran a scan while driving, code said "System Pass" Nothing else. Not sure what that means. Have you heard of that?
security system fault or key fault
@@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD Hmmm its a 1996 Do I have a security system? I don't have a key fob
Mine did @@genogeno6643
My biggest question is would an ipr cause a miss on acceleration?
Ahhnnn Ipr is more like a stall even if brief
@@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD I've got a 97 7.3. Bought with a loping down idle. Guy had replaced hpop, manual swapped crate zf5 from jasper, bigger injectors that he couldn't even tell me the size of, and everything else stock. I didn't know much at the time so just replaced the cps. My icp was leaking and no difference when unplugged so I changed it and pigtail and now it does changed the idle but still lopes and had a more clattering sound when unplugged. The truck felt quite strong. I've got an ipr code " excessive injector control pressure" since it was bought. My ebp is unplugged because it was probably clogged causing the turbo hiss and low power in 60 degrees but no CEL. It's always had a loping idle and the stall if you come to a redlight without touching the fuel before pushing the clutch but felt quite strong anywhere past 1500 rpms. I've pulled 20k lbs no problem. Anyway, the other night it started missing bad fairly bad. Lower power, the idle still idles the exact same, my duty cycle bounces around at idle and icp psi with it of course. My fuel filter was dark but who knows when it's been last changed. Truck had never lost much oil and it's had to been leaky given its oily underside. I drive this truck 100 miles a day 6 days a week and it's all I have. I've ordered an ipr but I don't know what would be causing the miss. The only step I haven't went through is a cyl contribution test given I can't get the oil to stay above 180 long enough for the scan tool. What's your thoughts on the miss by any chance? Also thanks for the reply, much respect to any channel that cares about viewers
@@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD forgot to mention replaced a valve cover gasket 3 weeks ago I had glow plug pins burnt along with injectors passing a buzz test so I wouldn't expect an idm problem or voltage issue or anything orlf that sort.
I had my volume all the way up. I'll never hear my grandchildren...
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It was a bad injector causing the problem.
I meant IPR issues
or replace the ebps pipe as its broke in 1/2. lol