I bought a FN2 with silver colour like yours a week ago... I cant wait to finally get it. It has a catback exhaust already installed. It sounds so amazing! I hope you'll get more attention on youtube mate, your videos seem to be very nice :)
I'm on my second set of michelin pilot sport. Much prefer them, excellent grip in wet and try and plenty of feedback from the road. I've also fitted a 7inch touchscreen into the dash in place of the standard stereo, looks much better
Roof rust under windscreen seal, leaks in boot, front passenger footwells, laquer peel on plastic on milano reds, pixelated radio display, sub-frame 'click,' silver door handle covers coming loose or falling off, drive shafts snapping due to 'water trap' allowing the shaft to rot, oh and the standard suspension is crashy as hell, this guy must be driving on the only smoothest road in the U.K! Thats all I can think of for now, love the FN2 lol best join owners club or forum ask around before you by one, luckily mine hasnt had all of these but they are quite common issues.
I have a 1.4 8th gen I have the pixelated radio problem I have the problem under the wind screen seal. And if someone sits into the car on the passenger side there is a squeak off the suspension. But I love the civic but I have heard some say with the fn2 some of them pop out of 3rd gear at high revs I dont own one just heard it but I am getting one 😀👍
0-60...6.6sec pal 🙄.the fn2 is a brillant car,get one with a fsh and it will go forever.put good tyres on and they grip forever too,great fun.much prefer it to my old ep3
I've bought an FN2 about a month ago. One thing I'd point out is rust right above the windscreen sill, rust on the inside of the doors too. I actually have a wee bit of bubbling there and its something I'll get sorted in the next 12 months. I love the car though, its great fun to own and I came from a 172 clio phase 2.
The truth is somewhere in the midle. Fore sure EK9 released only for Asian market. FD2 also. But frome the other side all this EK9, EP3,FN2,FK2 blah blah is Type -R. Just for other eras, other decades, ek9 is 1,6 liter ep3 & fn2 is 2000 liters end the last fk2 & fk8 is 2000 turbo liters. Different philosophy, different spec's, & price, some good staff's, some other bad staff's, but at the end all this is Civic's Type R's.
Farhan and??? But the ek9 is the first Civic Type-R and this means "original"!!! It is not important that the ek9 was not released in the UK, Honda is a japanese Company, not a UK Company! 😉
I would say the biggest 2 issues are the druveshafts. Noticeable by the car wobbly at high speed and water getting in the hatch. Which is normally getting in at the join at the end of the roof runners.
One more thing. On some early models there may be rust underneath the rubber seals. It's usually on the top corner of the door. Also like you were saying 4th gear synchro is an issue on some early models. Mine had a problem where it had some problem shifting from 3rd to 4th. Especially if the weather was cold it had issues shifting in to 4th. It's like there is no gear but if you shift to neutral and release the clutch and press the clutch again it shifts in to gear just fine. Easy way of telling if the synchro is on its way out is to drive in 4th and listen for slight whine. As always great video man 😊
It drinks oil because of the vtec, I usually check my oil once every 3 weeks and it can range from top mark to just about the bottom. Its on 150k miles and has no issues whatsoever.
@@shaunmarshall4504 thanks for the advice mate, will do that. Would imagine it will have a better 're sale price as well? Just tough to part with 7 or 8k for a 10 year old motor isn't it lol
@@sparko2012 maybe unfortunately the market is flooded with them so selling is pretty hard at the moment. I thought about putting in an aftermarket diff in my 08 but tbh I'll be moving on to something more powerful soon enough
Great detailed review, I got mine but forgot to check the fold in mirrors closely enough, the n/s one only folded in so much & potentially needs a device unit shut off switch which is £33.42 from honda
@@thunderchild750 yea, I was looking at a saphire blue one. Think you have to pay about 1.5k extra for the colour! Reckon I'll spend about 4k tops. How's yours been? Engine ok?
@@thunderchild750 brill thanks, a friend had one about 10 years ago and it used to burn oil. That's my biggest worry, previous owner hasn't topped it up. Guess that's the risk you take with all used cars tho isn't it!
+MrSollyjohn thanks for the nice comments, glad your liking the content. Really tough choice, I've had both cars. I would say the golf is the best all rounder and seen by most as the daddy of hot hatches especially this age range, but don't rule out the type r for something equally as strong but a little different. On a side note if you opt for the golf find one with the 18" monza diamond cut wheels, that's the best option.
Hi mate. Love the videos! Just a quick one on checking oil. I have an fn2. Check oil religiously as I know these k20 engines can drink the oil and some don't as much. When you check the oil is the level meant to be at just below max marker on dip stick when stone cold (left over night) or warm (driven then allowed to rest for 15 mins or so) Cheers
Glad you like the video and thanks for subscribing. Personally I check the oil when cold, when there its just below the max line this allows for some expansion when the oil get hot. However I know Honda recommend checking when warm after a short drive and waiting 3-5 mins for the oil to drain back into the sump. I would say try both and see if there is any visible difference. as long as its not under or over filled you should be fine.
+Nicholas May as I said in the video I'm not an expert but I would think if it's just below when cold and only just over when hot it should be fine. Unfortunately I can't make it to JF this weekend, would of been great to be there.
+Nicholas May other than the things you must stay on top of, Oil/Service/Decent fuel/tires etc the main tip would be to just enjoy the car, that's what it was made for and I'm all for taking care of a car but nothing worse than not getting out there and enjoying it
Best way is to run engine for 3 mins turn off for a couple of mins then check that's the proper way and for the best reading of the oil on the dipstick
The problem with the Type-R FN2 is the Accord CU2. Which in current market is roughly in the same price range. And for the same money you get a (albeit butchered) K24, double-wishbone suspension and a much more comfortable ride...
Picked my type r up on Saturday fn2 08 plate 97000 miles on clock just shy of £4500 managed 35miles intill near side drive shaft snapped...both was replaced under warranty anything else I should be keeping a eye out for love the car just asking for care tips great vid btw 👍
Excuse the stupid question , why this cars never made it to us ? I been looking ever lol ended up getting si coupe 07 128000 miles closes that i ever came to this , just wondering why never made it us this style body
I had a fn2 amazing car I’d recommend anyone getting one is to get a 08 model up they have 6 gears and the 07 has 5 gears if your in a motor way it just needed a 6th gear. mine was modified and it dropped my mpg (18mpg) but it was very reliable I had it for around 3 years the only thing to brake was my front shock but wish I never got rid saving for another
@@ryanj4268 I had ut remapped to stage 3 miltek exhaust it was very loud can’t remember what brakes I had on them k&n air filters and I put different boot struts on because the boot lids are heavy
Hull and proud Cheers duck, who did you go to for mapping? I’m definitely considering one for next year possibly and you have helped a lot :) I want a newer one with the LSD and HID lights can’t wait just beed save up the pennies
Watching this video snd others on youtube english car most have good service history stamped etc in ireland alot do it them selves or mix garages never ever really a cars history here well view and far between
Its not the best type r by a country mile . ive had a ep3 dc2 accord and i have a fn2 now and after a few simple mods its way up there with the ep3 and it would kill the accord . Fantastic car nevertheless and totally underrated
I currently spend between £50 and £75 per month on fuel driving a Cooper 04 (my first car). It's daily commute and weekend usage, I'd say I use the car 6 out of 7 days per week for fairly small commutes or errands. My city is fairly small and commutes are like 5 or 6 miles total. How much would you guess my fuel spend could increase? I've seen some people saying they spend £200 per month on fuel however gave no context in the form of commute mileage etc. Doing maths in my head I'd guess I might bump up to maximum about £100 per month which is affordable but surely having a 6th gear makes a huge difference if used as often as possible? Can anyone share their experiences with fuel consumption in an FN2?
@@ryanj4268 yes British driveshafts makes better replacement 2 year warranty for around £200 mark Basically on original the end of driveshaft let's moisture rust and eventually snaps Mine i just got reconditioned one and weatherproof painting and grease its ok cost £50
Kevin Anderson Thabks mate appreciated. I’m set on getting one of these mid next year so from my research so far a 2010 facelift with cruise control and the LSD is best to get for the ecutek ECU and boltons. Not sure about manifold or cat back exhaust though as I want to modify it but not have it drone or be stupid loud for my child in the car.
The FN2 goes rusty, it's a poor Honda in general. I have seen ones with masses of rust around the windscreen, bonnet catch and doors seals at less than ten years old! Too many better cars out there.
@@hondamanvtec2894 Sorry, but no. The car has inherent paint and design flaws for the areas that rust quickly. 'A bad owner' does not induce an FN2 to rust just a few years after it is built....
@@shaunmarshall4504 It's a fact. Honda agreed to do a recall on many cars when they were 4-5 years old, but then had such an influx of requests started refusing them after a while. They repainted a lot around their windscreen seals and doors because they were rusting within a few years. Well documented. Find out for yourself. The fact yours HAS rust on it should worry you, because chances are it's a lot worse than just surface rust at this point. If it's on the roof and been left they go from the inside out and the car is an absolute mess.
i've literally been begging for this video to come out the past month! thanks for the advice.
+Lordmelchy no problem glad I made it, hope it helps you find a good one
I bought a FN2 with silver colour like yours a week ago... I cant wait to finally get it. It has a catback exhaust already installed. It sounds so amazing! I hope you'll get more attention on youtube mate, your videos seem to be very nice :)
I owned one for t years and 1000% recommend the fn2
Yes defo. I have the type R fn2 and wow.... can definitely say it doesn’t disappoint, especially when it’s in Vtec
I'm on my second set of michelin pilot sport. Much prefer them, excellent grip in wet and try and plenty of feedback from the road. I've also fitted a 7inch touchscreen into the dash in place of the standard stereo, looks much better
Roof rust under windscreen seal, leaks in boot, front passenger footwells, laquer peel on plastic on milano reds, pixelated radio display, sub-frame 'click,' silver door handle covers coming loose or falling off, drive shafts snapping due to 'water trap' allowing the shaft to rot, oh and the standard suspension is crashy as hell, this guy must be driving on the only smoothest road in the U.K! Thats all I can think of for now, love the FN2 lol best join owners club or forum ask around before you by one, luckily mine hasnt had all of these but they are quite common issues.
I have a 1.4 8th gen I have the pixelated radio problem I have the problem under the wind screen seal.
And if someone sits into the car on the passenger side there is a squeak off the suspension. But I love the civic but I have heard some say with the fn2 some of them pop out of 3rd gear at high revs I dont own one just heard it but I am getting one
😀👍
0-60...6.6sec pal 🙄.the fn2 is a brillant car,get one with a fsh and it will go forever.put good tyres on and they grip forever too,great fun.much prefer it to my old ep3
my First Honda ep2, After ep3 and now Fn2! Honda 😍
I have an EP2, I dont know if I should buy an EP3 or FN2!
I've bought an FN2 about a month ago. One thing I'd point out is rust right above the windscreen sill, rust on the inside of the doors too. I actually have a wee bit of bubbling there and its something I'll get sorted in the next 12 months. I love the car though, its great fun to own and I came from a 172 clio phase 2.
+Alan Meals that's a great shout yes this is something that should always be checked, thanks for adding to the list
Really great video! You speak clearly and you have a lot of relevant facts :)
The original Type-R is the "ek9" not the ep3!!!
Benjamin Sliwinski are you dumb? Ek9 wasn't released in the UK.
The truth is somewhere in the midle. Fore sure EK9 released only for Asian market. FD2 also. But frome the other side all this EK9, EP3,FN2,FK2 blah blah is Type -R. Just for other eras, other decades, ek9 is 1,6 liter ep3 & fn2 is 2000 liters end the last fk2 & fk8 is 2000 turbo liters. Different philosophy, different spec's, & price, some good staff's, some other bad staff's, but at the end all this is Civic's Type R's.
Farhan and??? But the ek9 is the first Civic Type-R and this means "original"!!! It is not important that the ek9 was not released in the UK, Honda is a japanese Company, not a UK Company! 😉
actually the original 'type r' is the dc2 Integra released in japan in 1996, the ek9 was the first civic type r
@@civicek4180PS Depends. If you mean the first euro civic type r then the ep3 is right. If its the first R full stop then yes of course the ek9 is.
Thanks! Looking foward to bring one from Portugal!
Original CTR is EK9, EP3 also came out in 2001!
If you want to get even more akward about it you could argue that the eg6 SiR was the real front runner
got one this week for 2k, needs a bit of work but very excited to get stuck in!
I would say the biggest 2 issues are the druveshafts. Noticeable by the car wobbly at high speed and water getting in the hatch. Which is normally getting in at the join at the end of the roof runners.
Nothing a bit of bathroom sealant or for a more permanent repair, JB cold weld😂
Great video m8...thanks alot for putting this video out!
+Dean no problem, glad you like it and thanks for suggesting I make it. 👍
One more thing. On some early models there may be rust underneath the rubber seals. It's usually on the top corner of the door. Also like you were saying 4th gear synchro is an issue on some early models. Mine had a problem where it had some problem shifting from 3rd to 4th. Especially if the weather was cold it had issues shifting in to 4th. It's like there is no gear but if you shift to neutral and release the clutch and press the clutch again it shifts in to gear just fine. Easy way of telling if the synchro is on its way out is to drive in 4th and listen for slight whine.
As always great video man 😊
+sasajungic89 thanks for the extra points to look out for 😀
Good vid mate, well done
It drinks oil because of the vtec, I usually check my oil once every 3 weeks and it can range from top mark to just about the bottom. Its on 150k miles and has no issues whatsoever.
I'm thinking of spending about 5k on a 2009 model. What you think?
@@sparko2012I would go for a 10plate and pay a little more, you get an lsd as standard. Wish I had done that.
@@shaunmarshall4504 thanks for the advice mate, will do that. Would imagine it will have a better 're sale price as well? Just tough to part with 7 or 8k for a 10 year old motor isn't it lol
@@sparko2012 maybe unfortunately the market is flooded with them so selling is pretty hard at the moment. I thought about putting in an aftermarket diff in my 08 but tbh I'll be moving on to something more powerful soon enough
My 2011 FN2 doesnt use any oil
Great detailed review, I got mine but forgot to check the fold in mirrors closely enough, the n/s one only folded in so much & potentially needs a device unit shut off switch which is £33.42 from honda
+Richard Crump thanks for the comments and detail about the fold in mirrors
Bought one love it nuff said
Looking myself now, dunno if it's worth spending 5k for a 09 plate. Do you mind me asking what year you bought?
@@sparko2012 08 plate 72k on clock but paid much less than 6 k
@@thunderchild750 yea, I was looking at a saphire blue one. Think you have to pay about 1.5k extra for the colour! Reckon I'll spend about 4k tops. How's yours been? Engine ok?
@@sparko2012 engine is strong and pulls as it should but lookout for belt pully noises i had to replace tesioner and idler bearings
@@thunderchild750 brill thanks, a friend had one about 10 years ago and it used to burn oil. That's my biggest worry, previous owner hasn't topped it up. Guess that's the risk you take with all used cars tho isn't it!
If it don’t start first time on button what isit that needs sorting?
What's an FN2 weigh?
Great video just found your Channel recently. Loving the content am currently drawn between a type r and a mk5 Golf gti. Did end up selling yours?
+MrSollyjohn thanks for the nice comments, glad your liking the content. Really tough choice, I've had both cars. I would say the golf is the best all rounder and seen by most as the daddy of hot hatches especially this age range, but don't rule out the type r for something equally as strong but a little different. On a side note if you opt for the golf find one with the 18" monza diamond cut wheels, that's the best option.
MrSollyjohn me too gti or type r
Hi mate. Love the videos! Just a quick one on checking oil. I have an fn2. Check oil religiously as I know these k20 engines can drink the oil and some don't as much. When you check the oil is the level meant to be at just below max marker on dip stick when stone cold (left over night) or warm (driven then allowed to rest for 15 mins or so)
Cheers
Glad you like the video and thanks for subscribing. Personally I check the oil when cold, when there its just below the max line this allows for some expansion when the oil get hot. However I know Honda recommend checking when warm after a short drive and waiting 3-5 mins for the oil to drain back into the sump. I would say try both and see if there is any visible difference. as long as its not under or over filled you should be fine.
+Nicholas May as I said in the video I'm not an expert but I would think if it's just below when cold and only just over when hot it should be fine. Unfortunately I can't make it to JF this weekend, would of been great to be there.
+Nicholas May other than the things you must stay on top of, Oil/Service/Decent fuel/tires etc the main tip would be to just enjoy the car, that's what it was made for and I'm all for taking care of a car but nothing worse than not getting out there and enjoying it
Best way is to run engine for 3 mins turn off for a couple of mins then check that's the proper way and for the best reading of the oil on the dipstick
I disagree with the " Ideally Bridgestones" put the on my EP3, thought they where awful
The problem with the Type-R FN2 is the Accord CU2. Which in current market is roughly in the same price range.
And for the same money you get a (albeit butchered) K24, double-wishbone suspension and a much more comfortable ride...
The 08-09 models have sychro issues?
Hi how many fn2 type r where made in silver colour. I have read there was only 45 made in silver. Is that true.
Picked my type r up on Saturday fn2 08 plate 97000 miles on clock just shy of £4500 managed 35miles intill near side drive shaft snapped...both was replaced under warranty anything else I should be keeping a eye out for love the car just asking for care tips great vid btw 👍
Roof rust
Do you mind me asking what you paid for this car?
Excuse the stupid question , why this cars never made it to us ? I been looking ever lol ended up getting si coupe 07 128000 miles closes that i ever came to this , just wondering why never made it us this style body
I had a fn2 amazing car I’d recommend anyone getting one is to get a 08 model up they have 6 gears and the 07 has 5 gears if your in a motor way it just needed a 6th gear. mine was modified and it dropped my mpg (18mpg) but it was very reliable I had it for around 3 years the only thing to brake was my front shock but wish I never got rid saving for another
Thanks mate what mods did you have?
@@ryanj4268 I had ut remapped to stage 3 miltek exhaust it was very loud can’t remember what brakes I had on them k&n air filters and I put different boot struts on because the boot lids are heavy
Hull and proud Cheers duck, who did you go to for mapping? I’m definitely considering one for next year possibly and you have helped a lot :) I want a newer one with the LSD and HID lights can’t wait just beed save up the pennies
@@ryanj4268 the guy that had it before did the remap but I’d test drove one with and one with out and the power was just unbelievable and great fun
my type r 2007 has 6 gears.
If I was gonna buy one for 2k at 130k miles on the clock. Is that a good price or average?
Really good price! I’m about to buy one for 3.5k with 117k on it
I'm from Spain, would it be a good idea to buy a RHD from Uk if I save 6000 euros respect the prices where I live?
No. Luego el seguro es mas caro y se un dia tienes que venderlo, perderas mucha pasta. Te lo digo por experiencia
The EP3 wasn't the original. The EK9 was.
I am looking into buying this car but will i fit in at 6.3ft?
yeah dude i’m 6’2 and i fit into mine easily. the chair has a tonne of adjustment settings
OryX Not in the glove box.
Watching this video snd others on youtube english car most have good service history stamped etc in ireland alot do it them selves or mix garages never ever really a cars history here well view and far between
Its not the best type r by a country mile . ive had a ep3 dc2 accord and i have a fn2 now and after a few simple mods its way up there with the ep3 and it would kill the accord . Fantastic car nevertheless and totally underrated
can someone exolain to me the different models if this car
I currently spend between £50 and £75 per month on fuel driving a Cooper 04 (my first car). It's daily commute and weekend usage, I'd say I use the car 6 out of 7 days per week for fairly small commutes or errands. My city is fairly small and commutes are like 5 or 6 miles total.
How much would you guess my fuel spend could increase? I've seen some people saying they spend £200 per month on fuel however gave no context in the form of commute mileage etc. Doing maths in my head I'd guess I might bump up to maximum about £100 per month which is affordable but surely having a 6th gear makes a huge difference if used as often as possible?
Can anyone share their experiences with fuel consumption in an FN2?
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Front driveshaft fails passengerside common
Shut off device folding mirrors
Easy fix
And aircon relay common fails if omeron mitshiba replacement £16
Driveshaft cheap and easy fix?
@@ryanj4268 yes British driveshafts makes better replacement 2 year warranty for around £200 mark
Basically on original the end of driveshaft let's moisture rust and eventually snaps
Mine i just got reconditioned one and weatherproof painting and grease its ok cost £50
Kevin Anderson Thabks mate appreciated. I’m set on getting one of these mid next year so from my research so far a 2010 facelift with cruise control and the LSD is best to get for the ecutek ECU and boltons. Not sure about manifold or cat back exhaust though as I want to modify it but not have it drone or be stupid loud for my child in the car.
ok but rather stating the obvious in many cases
The EP3 is an awful looking car, the FN2 is far nicer.
This video is just stating the obvious when buying any car
Pff 9.Tires? Credibility in a a review is everything. Spelling would help with that.
I never realised you had to be an English professor in order to give your opinion on cars...
The FN2 goes rusty, it's a poor Honda in general. I have seen ones with masses of rust around the windscreen, bonnet catch and doors seals at less than ten years old! Too many better cars out there.
Bad owners
Not bad cars
@@hondamanvtec2894 Sorry, but no. The car has inherent paint and design flaws for the areas that rust quickly. 'A bad owner' does not induce an FN2 to rust just a few years after it is built....
Mine is an 08 model with 150k on it, being marked outside for most of its life and has near enough no rust at all, stop talking shite.
@@shaunmarshall4504 🤣🤣🤣
@@shaunmarshall4504 It's a fact. Honda agreed to do a recall on many cars when they were 4-5 years old, but then had such an influx of requests started refusing them after a while. They repainted a lot around their windscreen seals and doors because they were rusting within a few years. Well documented. Find out for yourself. The fact yours HAS rust on it should worry you, because chances are it's a lot worse than just surface rust at this point. If it's on the roof and been left they go from the inside out and the car is an absolute mess.
The ep3 isn’t the original type r, that’s the ek9. Get your facts right🙄🙄
This clown don't know what he's talking about . He thinks that is the second type r
True DON shut up pal