That’s what I thought too. I’m leaning more towards they lost a partner or their kids through a divorce. They had addicted parents- I doubt dropping out of high school is a common denominator.
I mean, even if you watch some interviews on Soft White Underbelly, the majority of Skid Row folks there haven't graduated from high school. That's just facts
It shouldn’t be illegal. It being a crime to not graduate is just setting people up to struggle. It can be hard enough for someone to get a good job without it, making it illegal wouldn’t help. Everyone takes different paths in life, dropping out doesn’t mean you won’t be successful in life.
US specifically doesn’t value it because if Americans were to be given actually good educations, they would revolt immediately against what’s going on or simply flee like immigrants do (whose families valued education) to a place where good lives can be attained
It's a crime for the parents, not the kid. Not having a basic education is what makes it hard to not get a good job, it stunts you. College may not be for everyone and that's fine. But to allow a child to make such a heavy decision and not get their basic education is quite literally dumb.
@@kenny995 agreed, my sister dropped out in 2020 during her junior year simply because she lacked motivation,not even because she HAD TO so that she could work for our family or something. the fact that it was so accepted by our parents and her advisors, and she had no valid reasoning to do so, its just unfortunate. if someone had sat her down (and that should be the parents) and talked to her about how this could really hurt her future, maybe she wouldnt have. and now she never had motivations to start a career, shes stuck in a controlling relationship living in his parents house at 20, still working at the same job she had junior year, asking to borrow money from me, has bad credit, no plans to change, its dissapointing watching her fail. but my dad also is a high school drop out, and he has not been able to keep a job so now he has to do doordash… some people watch their family members succeed and go to college and get their dream job, while others watch their family fail in life and become miserable with no purpose, im choosing to learn from that and im already off to a wonderful start as a soon to be graduate
Expecting people to graduate to get livable wage jobs is already setting them up to struggle. Making it illegal is just a waste of tax dollars and rubbing salt on the already stinging wound.
Hell no, the law might not deter the most stupid/craziest of the bunch, but it definitely works for people who are still on the fence about committing a crime.
@@angellopez5315 high school drop outs commit crime? If they commit crime and go to jail that’s also their choice. It’s a stupid one but it’s one they’ve made.
I dropped out and got my GED. Now I'm 22 and in nursing school. It's dumb to think you won't ever have a life if you drop out. Those first 3 girls are so sheltered.
I dropped out due to mental health reasons. I get shit from my sister due to this, as she makes me out to be the bad guy, for wanting to focus on myself.
it sounds that way because he said “i dont think there should be any laws” but he meant no new laws regarding dropping out of school. Not no laws in general lol
I dropped out after sophomore year. I started working full time, got my GED, saved up for a car, started college, and am living my best life. I probably would have killed myself if I had stayed in school. What a ridiculous question and even more ridiculous answers. They didn't even consider the homeschooled kids lol.
My dad did the same. I honestly find it so sad some kids even have to sacrifice completing their education early in life to get by but it is what it is. Glad you're living a successful life, your work ethic is very inspiring.
@@reajay8548 I told my friend in the Netherlands about my choice and he said "that sounds perfect, why doesn't everyone do that?" A lot different from how most people in the US treat dropouts like me.
@@egodumpster As a freshman, I would say no. Most of the problems I've run into involve credits and the lack of a full transcript. My state has the HiSET instead of the GED and despite having everything required to take it at 16, they didn't let me until I was 17. I also applied to jobs starting at age 14 and didn't get hired until I was 16. It took 2 years of saving to afford my cheap car. I got a lot of shit from my grown coworkers as well, you need a thick skin and to be completely sure about your decisions. I suggest you do research on how your state handles high school equivalency, form a solid 5 year plan, and definitely wait until you are 16/17. Good luck.
Uhh are we not all seeing how incredibly flawed the schooling & educational systems are? Or are we not from the same planet. Just another brick in the wall.
dropping out of highschool and getting my ged was the best decision i could’ve made. i was mentally ill and fragile due to bullying. the highschool scene isn’t for everyone and it’s important to have alternatives to fit different lifestyles.
My husband was kicked out because he gave up in school. He got his GED and then went on to develop two successful businesses for our family. That was his path and I wouldn’t change it.
It's so insane to me how they can even for a second think that's reasonable. Most of the time, when people drop out, they're struggling in some ways. So, if you don't want people to drop out, focus on their struggles. A lot of times, finances are a big factor. Also, health and mental health. Instead of making it illegal to drop out, we could have some policies. Like idk, canceling student debt or like socializing Healthcare. We have to focus on the well-being of people, even if they won't become the most successful business owners. If money comes before well-being, we fucked up somewhere.
@@geode6 you clearly need some more perspective. There are tons of schools that can barely afford their bills let alone provide supplies for every student
I dropped out because I was missing months of school at a time due to anxiety and depression. I got my GED about a year after I was supposed to graduate, and now I have an associates degree and a career that I love. There was already a lot of familial pressure and shame that kept me from quitting high school earlier, even when it obviously wasn’t working. Adding the pressure of it being illegal would have made the situation a lot worse for my whole family.
My brother dropped out and is making absolute BANK. you shouldnt make things illegal just because you THINK it's not a wise choice. Things should be illegal if they're seriously affecting you or others.
it definitely should not be illegal in the slightest bit, but dropping out should never be your first solution to any issues. some people are met with great opportunities or have legitimate realistic plans for their future, so they know that dropping out is okay, but others use dropping out to run away from their mental health issues and bad grades, but they dont have any skills or interests that will benefit them in their future. some people can even be overconfident in their skills and passions, but arent prepared for the process and hard work that it takes to make it. sometimes making it through high school is what will prepare you for the reality of life afterwards
As someone who is 18 and still finishing high school, I think it should be an option. I wish I could’ve been working instead of just feeling useless and having major anxiety. I now have a job and I’m still doing school, I just think you should be able to choose when you want an education so it’s convenient for you.
It definitely should not be, my brother dropped out of highschool because he was having spasms everyday, his teachers meant to be helping him were saying he was lying, he started getting temporary partial paralysis, effecting sometimes his entire left side, everyone has their own stories and their own reasons for dropping out, and it’s important to recognize that, because if he stayed in school he could’ve died because of the stress it caused him and in turn the severity of his condition when he was there
As a highschool drop out, I did it so I could go and support myself on my own I couldnt focus in the environment I was in. I went back to school later but you legit never know what someones going through
Definitely not. In high-school I had a friend who dropped out of high-school at the beginning of his sophomore year and immediately after he got his GED and started going to college. I was a senior at the time so I still regret not doing the same thing
I don’t think it should be illegal but I think it should happen under the terms that the student dropping out is a willing participant and they aren’t dropping out because of exterior factors (ie. money, environment, family, etc.)
Dropping out should definitely be a choice. Everyone has different experiences throughout high school that are basically countless. If you do well, or are ok with school, then that's fine. If you don't, and have a plan(or an idea of what to do after leaving), that's fine too. What matters is that you look out for yourself and manage to succeed in however way you want so you can live a comfortable life. That's literally it. Who the heck is even asking these questions lmao
I dropped out after a very long and painful experience in school. If I were young and in school today I would be diagnosed as being somewhere on the spectrum and there would be some resources for me but in the late 70s early 80s there wasn’t any and I got left behind and eventually started acting out. I wasn’t learning disabled in the least but I just didn’t function well in a classroom. I went into the skilled trades and eventually worked my way up to a good living and I’ve never been unemployed since my early 20s. I can see now that had I been able to work through my challenges I would have went to a university and gone into a science related field, or into music and would be a professor or professional musician today. I sometimes regret how my formative years went but I am not disappointed with how I did given what I had to work with. I do not recommend dropping out of school but if you have already, you can certainly make a good life for yourself with some dedication and hard work. Don’t give up on yourself.
I'm going the exact opposite way, high-school should be optional with options to take up a trades instead, or half days of school with half days of on the job learning (I did this one year for a program when I was in hs and it helped me to weed out where I didn't want to work, which was extremely valuable.) They should also stop teaching a set curriculum for every student, students should be able to focus their learning on what they have strengths in and enjoy.
People drop out because of mental health, disabilities, pregnancies, etc. I was almost too sick to keep going to school and considered dropping out because my attendance was so low. There are more reasons than behavioral problems
My son dropped out on his 16th birthday, against my better judgment, and just finished his GED and is enrolling in college. He's been 16 for less than a month. He wasn't playing around. He didn't want to do 2 more years of school, knowing he was able to move on to the next step.
the last guy is spitting straight facts. I know a couple people that could not finish school due to mental health, physical health, careers, and/or family issues, and they’re some of the most intelligent people I know, dropping out sometimes has to be an option, because school does not fit the adult world, and if you’re thrusted into that environment before you you graduate (which has been the reason why all of my friends who have dropped out, did what they did), then yeah, dropping out is absolutely on the table
I talked with someone about it and they said that in the purge it's not really about no laws because they allow you to do anything that day. So it's not really the same.(i don't know if i explained it well)
I dropped out at 14, got my GED, and now make 80k a year at 20 years old. And I'm only learning more and setting my life up for success. I was living in an abusive home and in active addiction and school was the last thing I could focus on.
"Across the country, 68 percent of state prison inmates have not received a high school diploma." "Male and female students with low academic achievement are twice as likely to become parents by their senior year of high school, compared to students with high academic achievement. In the United States, high school dropouts commit about 75% of crimes." "High school dropouts are less likely to be active labor force participants and are more likely to be unemployed than their more educated counterparts. The current unemployment rate for high school dropouts is about 56 percent greater than that for high school completers." Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't true.
@My Me Everyone is clowing on her but she's 100 percent right. Education plays a huge role in the outcome of your life, which is why making sure kids are in achool is super crucial to a functioning society.
@Houseboat1 I mean that's an oversimplification of statistics. People that end up needing to drop out of high school tend to have more difficult life situations overall (bad family situation, mental health issues, etc). Forcing children to stay in school isn't the answer because dropping out of school isn't the cause.
If they seriously want people to stop dropping out, they shouldn't have made it so goddamn hard to survive out here. My cousins dropped out of college because they couldn't afford to pay more.
Dropping out isn’t a good idea but there’s exceptions like medical issues or financial issues and making it illegal just makes those peoples lives even shittier
people should be given access to help if they drop out (like classes to help get their GED or counseling services) but making it illegal will just make them struggle more. highschool is very difficult & not everybody is capable of getting their diploma, sometimes getting a GED is a better & healthier path in the long run.
YES! Its so easy to get a ged compared to high school. I was homeschooled instead of going to high school. I could study specifically for the ged and learned the best ways to take the test. I also studied myself for the ACT and did really well on all of them. Its so much better when you can study specifically for the test so you know what to expect.
School just isn't for everyone, really. My ex boyfriend from high school dropped out at the end of our sophomore year. His mom was nice and all but she was manic and would move them around a lot, I don't think he stayed at one school for an entire year until he was in high school and even then they moved houses a couple times around the area. It was so bad that he had major gaps in his schooling, he wasn't getting the help he needed, he came to our high school for the extracurriculars, the one he was super excited about was an absolute letdown because the teacher supposedly hated him, still not sure why, but there was a girl harassing him and the teacher did nothing about it. It was band and apparently this girl, at a football game, hit him down there with one of the mallets. Again, director did nothing. Insisted ex go back to playing, etc. Fortunately the elective he wasn't so hyped on in the beginning did end up being better than he hoped. It was JROTC, it had a lot of the structure he needed, but unfortunately it wasn't enough to keep him in school. He moved up to Alaska and I think eventually got his GED. Dunno how he's doing now.
Those people who dropped out and became druggies probably didn't actually want to drop out, but they didn't have a choice. People saying it should be illegal live in a fantasy world where everybody must be living the same luxuriously, kind life as them.
highschool isn’t for everyone. a couple of my friends dropped out due to their mental health and some people also drop out to work so they can support their family. the first 2 girls are insane
That one guy is the problem to our society we need to band together as a village and help each other not ppl that are suffering mental illness with no intervention to pay the price 😢
last guy is so real, i cant drop out but im struggling so much and i would have so many more opportunities if i dropped out but legally i cant until im 18 but ill be out of school by then. im miserable and i have disabilities that my doctors keep "forgetting" to put in my records and so my school can't accommodate and im stuck i cant do anything
My parents grew up in a very poor environment. My dad had to drop out of middle school to support his family. The issue isn’t that he chose to drop out, it is the lack of legislative attention toward the reason why he did in the first place. We shouldn’t be blaming people for fighting or giving up on a broken system
I’m not going to lie, it’s a really privileged opinion to say that it should be illegal for kids to not finish high school. You have to have a certain level of privilege to not be able to see the other side of things. I’m with the beanie guy.
If they actually gave us a halfway decent education system I don’t think we’d have so many kids wanting to drop out. It’s like a dreadfully boring full time job but you don’t even get paid or learn anything useful past maybe 6th grade. I’ve learned more from social media and life experience than I ever have from school. They don’t care about us learning and thriving, you can tell just based on how little they pay teachers. The modern education system is made to create obedient, docile workers and that’s just one of many major issues with it. Instead of trying to punish people for reacting to their surroundings, the government needs to get to the root of the problem and just rebuild American education from the ground up. I guarantee you kids wouldn’t be truant or dropping out as often.
I agree with the two dudes. The girls have not thought this through. My mom never finished high school, even though she wanted to. Her father did not care for education and she had to drop out to go to work. My mom needed to help pay the bills, its the harsh reality of life. If its illegal to drop out, who is gonna be fined or put in jail; the student or the parents? In my moms case, if her or her dad were fined or jailed, it would have hurt an already struggling, poor family. This is just gonna end up being a classism issue. Were only the poor and at risk communities will be fined because they are the majority of high school drop outs. Wether or not you think people should finish high school (I think they should get a GED, high school is a mess in the US) making it illegal to drop out is a TERRIBLE solution.
Why on earth would you make it illegal? Life happens even when you’re young. Why punish someone for being unable to continue education for whatever reason? There should be more help offered for those that want to finish, but it shouldn’t be forced.
IMO it should be compulsory to attend until the second year of HS. After that, you’re old enough to be able to make good enough decisions for your education.
got my GED beginning of my junior year (ive been homeschooled for two years) and am now working to save up for a car + college. still unsure what i want to do with life but don’t regret my decision because another two years wouldn’t make a difference anyway. just do what you want to do, but don’t make it illegal for others just because you wouldn’t go down that path
I dropped out at 16 and it was the best choice I’ve ever made for myself. I was in physical and mental pain everyday, most of my teachers didn’t actually teach (I WANT to learn constantly, so it was very frustrating.), my home life was, and still is, sucky, and so much more. I was going to kill myself or die in general if I didn’t drop out. My family judged me, older friends judged me, strangers judged me, but I don’t care. My health means more than that. I was constantly physically sick and my mental illnesses played a major role in some of my physical sicknesses as well (ex. Anxiety causing ED’s and bad stomach pain, etc). I’m 19 now, working on getting my GED, I’ve passed all my pretests without practice except math because I haven’t done it yet, and I’m physically and mentally a WHOLE lot better. I’m not as sick anymore, I cope even better than I did before, I’m just overall better and will CONTINUE to get better. I am going at my own pace, please go at yours. Don’t let anyone force you to do anything that could be bad for you. I don’t regret what I did and I never will. I know my capabilities and I know my breaking points.
Everyone should be allowed to make choices for their life as they see fit, as long as they aren't hurting others. I wish I would've dropped out of High School. I would if I could do it all over again. Instead of enduring severe bullying, I should've gotten my GED then went straight to college.
I don’t think it should be illegal. There should be a better system in place to help those kids who may have to drop out to work to support their family. Additionally a child shouldn’t have to drop out to take care of an adult (I know some events can’t be judged) but it’s not a child’s responsibility to become an adult before the right age. I will say that even though school is rough it teaches you a lot about connections and friendships, which is very important for later on in life.
There is nothing worse for the teacher and the class than having someone in school who doesn’t want to be there. They either just sleep or do shit to disrupt the class.
it kinda should be a REQUIREMENT to attend and graduate highschool completely AND there should be other resources available to struggling students (financial, emotional etc) to help them throughout that time also education should be reformed to include practical skills education is important dude ppl can go start their business after completing hs
@@tessaelto1472 many countries in the world have universities it's not just the US. I peruse it with the privilege of it being totally covered by my government because they believe it's a right for us to be highly educated. A degree is very important for your future and again you don't have to school in the US it's a capitalist country they would literally kill their own people for few more bucks.
@@tessaelto1472in 5 years I’ll be making considerable 6 figures and my education and the fact that my family placed importance on it is exactly why I succeeded
I had to drop out of high school because my health was really bad. I ended up finishing online in my own time but there was no way I could have done it at the time.
My step dad dropped out got his ged and is working in the HVAC area. He bought his own house and buys new cars or even expensive ones. Whilst still having money saved up. Anything is possible
My mom born in LA and dropped out on her last year of highschool due to personal reasons. She later had kids and found her passion for art (and not working for the man as she says lmao). She has become a very successful person and i think it really built her to be open minded because of it. Also she has taught me that it's okay to not be like everyone else and to not have the same opinions as the two girls in this video (thinking you have to go to college, have kids, get married, etc.) I've never been built for the school system and DESPISED being with people who lived closed minded judging my every move from teachers to other kids like me. Later thankfully I was sent to continuation school a place that teachers used as a threat of where all the pregnant girls, druggies, "nobodys" go. Now don't get me wrong there were girls that had kids and some people that sadly got hooked on some stuff but let me tell you they were the most hardworking people I've ever met. I've gotten to meet people with so many different life stories and battles of everyday life. People with similar struggles and ideals and teachers who supported me. It really changed my outlook on life especially of those around me. Although even with all that help I STILL struggled with school because of my past decisions and my points to graduate were not there so I got a job, saved some money, and planned to drop out once I turned 18. My parents as any other parent would, didn't want me to but encouraged me to do what I felt was right and knew I followed my mom's path as an artist as well. I was all set to leave but after debate and my teachers begging me to stay which my old school would have NEVER mind you. And after that I graduated not because I wanted to but I was one of the lucky ones to have been pushed to commit and do what I thought I couldn't do. I don't think graduating made a difference or an impact in my life but it was the people (who have also been doubted by others) that helped me in the long run. Also biased opinion you don't need a piece of junk paper to be an artist lmao 💀 idk where it is I think I gave it to my dad because he was proud as he should 😌. Tldr: just do whatever tf you want and people that do end up on the streets are for completely different reasons and very commonly because of lack of support sadly, so make sure you care for the people around you :)
I dropped out bc I was so scared of seeing my ex that mentally abused me, SA(ed) me, and then proceeded to call me names in the hallways with all of his friends. Just the thought of seeing him would make me shake and cry. Turns out he dropped out before I did. I regret it every day if my life.
I dropped out in 3rd grade. Worked on a farm. Read books, passed all my tests with barely ever touching the textbooks and am a nurse. It should not be illegal.
I wish I could drop out, and yes i don’t think dropping out should be illegal, tbh I’ve been having problems at school and home, specially having to battle my stress,anxiety and just overthinking, most people think I’m just getting bullied and being delusional, but seriously, my parents are poor, and cannot always afford paying my school fees n stuff, I’ve ended up in the hospital 4 times this year because of thinking about school + my problems at home, if children could drop out and help their parents, then i wouldn’t take dropping out at a young age illegals at all. But yes i do think they should be 16+ or if school is making their mental health worse then they have the rights to drop out with a parents choice.
Hey man I know I'm just a stranger on the internet but I wish you the best, I wanted to drop out as well and now I'm 2 years into a mechanical engineering degree, maybe leaving school right now to support the family is a good idea but you should never rule out higher education and maybe one day you'll be able to break the mould and support your family doing something that you are passionate about. But the uppermost important thing is getting on top of your mental health because nothing is more important than that.
@@oxicon True, But it’s also kinda a bit tough dropping out at 15 and having a job but I agree that it’s very common for 15 yr olds to work. But only on weekends
Well said friend and what I think about education is that it’s merely a tool of our system that doesn’t actually teaches you at all you’re just a face to be there. Especially living here in America our education system is poor, China and some other countries like Finland have the most secure and the most passionate system to teach the younger generation everything what they need to know. High school just a huge waste of time and this whole thing of what you said about it affecting your mental health is true because the majority of these teens who are in high school that’s facing the distress of their environment is all comes from bullying making them feel threatened to a point that they had to bring a gun to school which is very common especially here in America. Suicide rates are exceptionally increasing because of this. That’s one thing what I hate school I mean what’s the point of going to school if we have the internet? Which it’s stupid I can’t stress enough to say that everything we have or do will just always get repeated non stop towards the end.
I had to leave high-school to take care of my mental health. I went on to get a GED, then graduated college, at the top of my class. It should NOT BE ILLEGAL.
If dropping out was illegal, it absolutely wouldn’t solve the homeless crisis. We can’t this “solve” complicated issue with such a basic solution. This would likely worsen the issues as a majority of dropouts are due to poverty and a poor distribution of wealth/resources. Making dropping out illegal would only further harm these communities as the child’s parents would likely be charged or taken away, leaving the child with even less or less healthy of a structure for education and future success-whatever that means to you/them.
Something that I see in other countries that makes sense to me is if you want to drop out of high school early, you should go do an apprenticeship/go learn a trade. That way you gain a skill, you have a way to make money and contacts/references
my big brother was a drop out but hes so successful even after all these challenges im proud of him hes about to take over his dads car detailing/repair company and he makes enough to support him, his gf, their 2 kids, and his other 2 kids from his ex as well as he pays bills to his gfs mom and his grandpa cus they go back and forth. real proud of him
as someone who did drop out, it saved my life. I was an honors and AP student and my sister passed away my junior year. After I turned 17, I dropped out my senior year and started working. My mental health was at an all time low in high school and i’m so much better now. I got my GED and i’m going to college almost completely paid fot
I dropped out to look after a sick relative, started working immediately after they passed and have been working well ever since. it shouldn't be illegal to do what's right for yourself in that situation
I had to drop out in the beginning of 2020 due to covid just starting and my anxiety being peak and had a lot of home and school issues going on, my mental health was starting to dip and BPD symptoms were starting to become more apparent
I dropped out of highschool at 16 because I was not learning anything new. So I got my GED, then a job and traveled around (on my own money). Went to different museums, art shows, libraries, plays, ballets, etc across 6 states. Also spent time camping, fishing, boating and hiking in the Cascades. Did this untill I was 20, then I went to community college for writing, got a degree and a few different certification. I'm now 26, a mama and make over 100k. My mother dropped out at 15, got her GED and started working at traveling carnival to pay for nursing school. At 18 she began to study being a nurse, was a nurse till she was 30. Then she went back to college to study medical office management. She's now 49 and has been the top supervisor in a hospital for a few years. She also travels around the state to teach others how to use medical records software and train new employees. My father dropped out at 16, got his GED, took pre-college classes. Then at 18 started his associates in engineering and graduated. Then went onto a ivy league college. He now an airplane engineer, and is president of a union. My family also runs a home for severely disabled low income adults. It's a home setting instead of a medical setting so they can live a normal life while still receiving medical care. I also have a friend who dropped out at 15, he actaully never got his GED but instead got a job at a chain restaurant where he worked his way up. Now he's 28 and owns 3 of those restaurants in our area. So the stereotype of a highschool drop out is....well its completely bullsh*t. Actually in the past 5 years I've lost 3 of my class mates to a drug OD. Then 4 more are currently homeless, 2 of which I heard are active users, 1 I know is a prostitute and the other one I don't know the situation. They were all highschool graduates.... So that 2nd girl could not be more wrong. Highschool is no where near as important as society makes it out to be. It's beyond glamorized. You ever heard "they peaked in highschool"? Yeah, as an adult you realize how true that is for a lot of people. Making it illegal to drop out would be the worst thing for a lot of young people. It would stunt mental growth, delay education, delay careers, etc. We do not all fit in that bubble. Hell, I could only imagine if I was forced to stay in that "prison" learning the same thing over and over again every single day. Highschool works for some, while it doesn't work for others. Thats why we have the GED and pre-college courses.
These answers were not it. No, it shouldn't be illegal. There should be more pathways and alternatives to high school instead of just GEDs and high school. People dont end up in jail because they drop out of high school. They end up in jail because of other stressors that being in high school exacerbated. Graduating from high school doesn't mean your smarter or more likely to succeed in life than those who don't.
I'm from the uk so idk how it is in the us but I'm really surprised by all these success stories from dropping out! maybe it's the school I'm in we're just pressured to go to uni. most people will ask "what course will you take?" as if uni is a given
It honestly does depends on what the person wants because leaving school before graduating is tough since education is stemmed in multiple job positions now but it would be great if they were able to extend the opportunity of a GED with flexibility and multiple ways to access for everyone who dropped out just to reduce the struggle
Dad dropped out and has excelled in TWO different blue color trades over the years (carpentry and trucker) and while being happily married and raising us four kids. And he's still the best dad to this day!
In New South Wales, Australia, we have to be in school from kindergarten to grade 10. After that, you can leave if you get an apprenticeship or go to TAFE.
My best friend dropped out in 10th grade. Every time she applied for a job she would call me and ask what year did I graduate so she could put it on her application. We both worked until retirement, but she ended up with the job I always wanted but was afraid to try for.
my dad dropped out and yes he had a downward spiral but because of that he got back up stronger started his own successful business and help others with there own challenges so no school and real life don't coordinate well let people choose for themselves it will make them stronger and ultimately in the end they will appreciate what they have and enjoy /share with others
my grandpa, cousin, and friend all got GEDs and i’m working on getting mine. no drugs, no violence, no teen pregnancy. schooling doesn’t look the same for everyone. my cousin and i struggled with school work online and dealing with bullies and disrespectful peers. i want to move on with my life and not have to struggle with another year or two of highschool. I also want to better myself and start moving forward towards my dream jobs. getting a GED helps me finish school faster and with less stress
In the Netherlands there is in a literal translation a 'learn duty' so until you are 16 or 18 (don't know which one) you have to be in school or college, etc.
I had a choice. I dropped out because I was going to an alternative school for a felony charge and I ended up staying there for 3 years. I dropped out because of the staff, they would torment all of the students. One of them even has a history of inappropriately touching male students (including me) and wanding us down with metal detectors in an inappropriate way. I ended up dropping out so I could pursue my own career in music arts and I’m currently doing online schooling. dropping out is very worth it if you have a good plan for it, but if not definitely don’t. thats just my take
If I remember right, there was a video bio on yt or maybe I read on Wiki, that Axle Rose of Guns & Roses dropped out of H.S. to follow his dream of being in a rock band. I think he actually sung in a church choir when he was younger. He left home to follow his dreams... so, he took a gamble and bet on himself. Imagine if finishing high school was required in his lifetime when he was going to school. You wouldn't have had Guns & Roses. I don't know if Axel maybe got his GED eventually or not, but he won at life by pursuing what worked out for him. 🤷♀️
My dad was an immigrant to the USA and had to drop out of high school so that he could work and help support his family since they were In poverty despite his father (my grandfather) working while having multiple health issues. He made a sacrifice to help support his family and eventually he had me and my siblings and is supporting and giving us opportunities he never got. I’m graduating college this may and I couldn’t be more thankful for everything he’s done and sacrificed to get me here.
When I was 15 I was sent to a new school. I had an IEP for only math, so at my old school I’d just switch when it was math time since I was a kid. At this new school I kept saying the math was too hard and I didn’t understand it (apparently the new state I was in was months ahead of my old state as well) this lady tells me ok I’ll bring you to the IEP class we have here, and I opened the door and it was a class for children with special needs. I was really upset and confused and told her I meant IEP class for extra help and she said this is it. So I went back to the regular math class. I kept telling the teacher I genuinely didn’t understand it and I needed help. She would help the other students throughout the day but when I’d ask she would tell me she can’t help everyone and I need to come after school on Tuesday’s. Not to get into it but I moved in with my uncle and he refused to pick me up and told me I either catch the bus or that’s it, he told me I have enough time in class to understand it. A literal week later the test comes and I was like I’ve only been here a week the rest of the kids have been on this for 2. And she told me to just do my best. The problem was I genuinely couldn’t even come up with an answer. I had a lot going on at home and with other things at the time as well, I’m not sure if this had any effect on how well I did but probably. Anyway I wrote my name and just stared at the test. Tears were streaming down my face and I couldn’t concentrate. I saw her coming out of my peripheral and before I knew it she snatched my paper off my desk, went up to the front of the room and slid the trashcan beneath her. Everyone’s heads shot up to see what she was doing and she ripped my paper in half and threw it in the trash. I ran out of the class and told her off I don’t remember what I said but it wasn’t bad, not as bad as I ended up being in school after this. I was only there for a month and I’d spend everyday hiding outside and picking and choosing what classes I felt were safe to go to. I eventually got sent back home and things there weren’t any better. I’d hide in the bathroom and everything. Kids would laugh and say I didn’t care at all and was this or that but it was extremely hard for me. I got called dumb almost everyday which made me care less. I dropped out and took my GED, I got straight As on both. I cried so hard when I got my results. Anyway I like this account so thanks.
In my country they actually recently made it mandatory for age groups 2005 and younger to complete "2nd degree education" which is basically high school or vocational school. We need more workforce so it kinda makes sense, also we have good social and healthcare services here so that makes it safer for the law to be applied
That second girl couldn't be more wrong.
for real some people have no grasp on the reality of other people’s situations and then they just assume
i doubt shes ever been to skid row or had an actual conversation with a homeless person 🤦 shes talking out the wazoo
That’s what I thought too. I’m leaning more towards they lost a partner or their kids through a divorce. They had addicted parents- I doubt dropping out of high school is a common denominator.
I mean, even if you watch some interviews on Soft White Underbelly, the majority of Skid Row folks there haven't graduated from high school. That's just facts
@@y-yyy those interviews aren’t statistics. most people are homeless due to housing pricing and insufficient wages.
It shouldn’t be illegal. It being a crime to not graduate is just setting people up to struggle. It can be hard enough for someone to get a good job without it, making it illegal wouldn’t help.
Everyone takes different paths in life, dropping out doesn’t mean you won’t be successful in life.
if you value education for a generation, the next will be much more likely to value it as well which will breed a successful and wealthy society
US specifically doesn’t value it because if Americans were to be given actually good educations, they would revolt immediately against what’s going on or simply flee like immigrants do (whose families valued education) to a place where good lives can be attained
It's a crime for the parents, not the kid. Not having a basic education is what makes it hard to not get a good job, it stunts you. College may not be for everyone and that's fine. But to allow a child to make such a heavy decision and not get their basic education is quite literally dumb.
@@kenny995 agreed, my sister dropped out in 2020 during her junior year simply because she lacked motivation,not even because she HAD TO so that she could work for our family or something. the fact that it was so accepted by our parents and her advisors, and she had no valid reasoning to do so, its just unfortunate. if someone had sat her down (and that should be the parents) and talked to her about how this could really hurt her future, maybe she wouldnt have. and now she never had motivations to start a career, shes stuck in a controlling relationship living in his parents house at 20, still working at the same job she had junior year, asking to borrow money from me, has bad credit, no plans to change, its dissapointing watching her fail. but my dad also is a high school drop out, and he has not been able to keep a job so now he has to do doordash… some people watch their family members succeed and go to college and get their dream job, while others watch their family fail in life and become miserable with no purpose, im choosing to learn from that and im already off to a wonderful start as a soon to be graduate
Expecting people to graduate to get livable wage jobs is already setting them up to struggle. Making it illegal is just a waste of tax dollars and rubbing salt on the already stinging wound.
Third guy on point. It’s your choice, you always have a choice.
Hell no, the law might not deter the most stupid/craziest of the bunch, but it definitely works for people who are still on the fence about committing a crime.
@@angellopez5315 high school drop outs commit crime? If they commit crime and go to jail that’s also their choice. It’s a stupid one but it’s one they’ve made.
@@Lenore.18 i forgot how to count ig, I was referring to what the last guy said about how there should be no laws at all.
@@angellopez5315I think he’s just referring to no law that says you can’t drop out not no laws in general
Not in America lol
I dropped out and got my GED. Now I'm 22 and in nursing school. It's dumb to think you won't ever have a life if you drop out. Those first 3 girls are so sheltered.
I dropped out due to mental health reasons. I get shit from my sister due to this, as she makes me out to be the bad guy, for wanting to focus on myself.
I dropped out in the 8th grade and got my GED in less than a month after I turned 18.
that last guy just a straight up anarchist but he’s so casual about it lol
Right lol
it sounds that way because he said “i dont think there should be any laws” but he meant no new laws regarding dropping out of school. Not no laws in general lol
He sounds gay
@@Medi_us you sure about that?
@@zachb.6179 I’m confident of it, lol
I dropped out after sophomore year. I started working full time, got my GED, saved up for a car, started college, and am living my best life. I probably would have killed myself if I had stayed in school. What a ridiculous question and even more ridiculous answers. They didn't even consider the homeschooled kids lol.
My dad did the same. I honestly find it so sad some kids even have to sacrifice completing their education early in life to get by but it is what it is. Glad you're living a successful life, your work ethic is very inspiring.
@@reajay8548 I told my friend in the Netherlands about my choice and he said "that sounds perfect, why doesn't everyone do that?" A lot different from how most people in the US treat dropouts like me.
Exactly
This is how I want to go about life. I'm a freshman. Should I do this?
@@egodumpster As a freshman, I would say no. Most of the problems I've run into involve credits and the lack of a full transcript. My state has the HiSET instead of the GED and despite having everything required to take it at 16, they didn't let me until I was 17. I also applied to jobs starting at age 14 and didn't get hired until I was 16. It took 2 years of saving to afford my cheap car. I got a lot of shit from my grown coworkers as well, you need a thick skin and to be completely sure about your decisions. I suggest you do research on how your state handles high school equivalency, form a solid 5 year plan, and definitely wait until you are 16/17. Good luck.
Uhh are we not all seeing how incredibly flawed the schooling & educational systems are? Or are we not from the same planet. Just another brick in the wall.
Dropping a Pink Floyd reference! I love it!
ALL IN ALL WE'RE JUST A-NOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL 🎶🎶🧱🧱
yep. just another brick in the wall exactly!!
dropping out of highschool and getting my ged was the best decision i could’ve made. i was mentally ill and fragile due to bullying. the highschool scene isn’t for everyone and it’s important to have alternatives to fit different lifestyles.
THISSS!!! I was in the same situation.
thats less "dropping out" and more postponing for health reasons.
is getting youre ged hard?
Graduating HS doesn’t mean you’re a good student or will go anywhere in life
Some people were forced to drop out, some people do not have enough resources to even go to school
My husband was kicked out because he gave up in school. He got his GED and then went on to develop two successful businesses for our family. That was his path and I wouldn’t change it.
that's the thing, people become burnouts then change.
or start of great, and get into shit.
list goes on.
i needed this
Yes but at the same time this in one in like every thousand
@@Iweimax0524 There are a lot of people out there like that. You’d be surprised ☺️
That's not a common thing
everybody saying it should be illegal has never considered any one else ever in their life!
It's so insane to me how they can even for a second think that's reasonable. Most of the time, when people drop out, they're struggling in some ways. So, if you don't want people to drop out, focus on their struggles. A lot of times, finances are a big factor. Also, health and mental health. Instead of making it illegal to drop out, we could have some policies. Like idk, canceling student debt or like socializing Healthcare. We have to focus on the well-being of people, even if they won't become the most successful business owners. If money comes before well-being, we fucked up somewhere.
Highschool is free,
@@ShutupandListen no it’s not lmao highschool has a lot of expenses
@@geode6 you clearly need some more perspective. There are tons of schools that can barely afford their bills let alone provide supplies for every student
@@geode6 honey… you don’t need to say you’re in high school. It’s obvious
I dropped out because I was missing months of school at a time due to anxiety and depression. I got my GED about a year after I was supposed to graduate, and now I have an associates degree and a career that I love. There was already a lot of familial pressure and shame that kept me from quitting high school earlier, even when it obviously wasn’t working. Adding the pressure of it being illegal would have made the situation a lot worse for my whole family.
My brother dropped out and is making absolute BANK. you shouldnt make things illegal just because you THINK it's not a wise choice. Things should be illegal if they're seriously affecting you or others.
What is he doing?
Exactly
Thats just pure luck lol
@@benis7465 no... That was him working hard to get the life he wanted lol. He studied really hard for his GED
it definitely should not be illegal in the slightest bit, but dropping out should never be your first solution to any issues. some people are met with great opportunities or have legitimate realistic plans for their future, so they know that dropping out is okay, but others use dropping out to run away from their mental health issues and bad grades, but they dont have any skills or interests that will benefit them in their future. some people can even be overconfident in their skills and passions, but arent prepared for the process and hard work that it takes to make it. sometimes making it through high school is what will prepare you for the reality of life afterwards
As someone who is 18 and still finishing high school, I think it should be an option. I wish I could’ve been working instead of just feeling useless and having major anxiety. I now have a job and I’m still doing school, I just think you should be able to choose when you want an education so it’s convenient for you.
It definitely should not be, my brother dropped out of highschool because he was having spasms everyday, his teachers meant to be helping him were saying he was lying, he started getting temporary partial paralysis, effecting sometimes his entire left side, everyone has their own stories and their own reasons for dropping out, and it’s important to recognize that, because if he stayed in school he could’ve died because of the stress it caused him and in turn the severity of his condition when he was there
As a highschool drop out, I did it so I could go and support myself on my own
I couldnt focus in the environment I was in. I went back to school later but you legit never know what someones going through
Definitely not. In high-school I had a friend who dropped out of high-school at the beginning of his sophomore year and immediately after he got his GED and started going to college. I was a senior at the time so I still regret not doing the same thing
Usually you must be over 18 to do that
@@pimas11 nope. Minimum age is 16. I did it a few months ago and I’m in college now at 16
@@Peepooguy you can’t tell me nope lol I just said in some states you have to be over 18
@@pimas11 some states, not most. Usually it’s 16
@@everlastingbloom7057 it depends on the state, you need to be 16 or 18 for the large majority of states
I don’t think it should be illegal but I think it should happen under the terms that the student dropping out is a willing participant and they aren’t dropping out because of exterior factors (ie. money, environment, family, etc.)
@@jessicamurphy8215 yes that’s what I’m saying.
Dropping out should definitely be a choice. Everyone has different experiences throughout high school that are basically countless. If you do well, or are ok with school, then that's fine. If you don't, and have a plan(or an idea of what to do after leaving), that's fine too. What matters is that you look out for yourself and manage to succeed in however way you want so you can live a comfortable life. That's literally it. Who the heck is even asking these questions lmao
I dropped out after a very long and painful experience in school. If I were young and in school today I would be diagnosed as being somewhere on the spectrum and there would be some resources for me but in the late 70s early 80s there wasn’t any and I got left behind and eventually started acting out. I wasn’t learning disabled in the least but I just didn’t function well in a classroom. I went into the skilled trades and eventually worked my way up to a good living and I’ve never been unemployed since my early 20s. I can see now that had I been able to work through my challenges I would have went to a university and gone into a science related field, or into music and would be a professor or professional musician today. I sometimes regret how my formative years went but I am not disappointed with how I did given what I had to work with. I do not recommend dropping out of school but if you have already, you can certainly make a good life for yourself with some dedication and hard work. Don’t give up on yourself.
What I believe is to figure out what’s making students drop out of high school first.
I'm going the exact opposite way, high-school should be optional with options to take up a trades instead, or half days of school with half days of on the job learning (I did this one year for a program when I was in hs and it helped me to weed out where I didn't want to work, which was extremely valuable.) They should also stop teaching a set curriculum for every student, students should be able to focus their learning on what they have strengths in and enjoy.
People drop out because of mental health, disabilities, pregnancies, etc. I was almost too sick to keep going to school and considered dropping out because my attendance was so low. There are more reasons than behavioral problems
Boy I have personality disorders, as if I can maintain my healthy appearance this longer enough to go to school 💀
@@amanekaze i do too and it’s so frustrating. it’s hard to just go through school and be expected to act ‘normal’.
My son dropped out on his 16th birthday, against my better judgment, and just finished his GED and is enrolling in college. He's been 16 for less than a month. He wasn't playing around. He didn't want to do 2 more years of school, knowing he was able to move on to the next step.
the last guy is spitting straight facts. I know a couple people that could not finish school due to mental health, physical health, careers, and/or family issues, and they’re some of the most intelligent people I know, dropping out sometimes has to be an option, because school does not fit the adult world, and if you’re thrusted into that environment before you you graduate (which has been the reason why all of my friends who have dropped out, did what they did), then yeah, dropping out is absolutely on the table
The last person needs to watch the purge bro😂
He’s cool and pretty
@@Zeegoner You need to watch The Purge as well. Maybe make it a movie night with that guy 😂
Fr though 😂😂😂 I came from a damn near lawless community so that was a dumb comment from that guy
@@Zeegoner that is literally all our generation tends to care about, “cool and pretty”. That is a Very superficial way to think.
I talked with someone about it and they said that in the purge it's not really about no laws because they allow you to do anything that day. So it's not really the same.(i don't know if i explained it well)
I dropped out at 14, got my GED, and now make 80k a year at 20 years old. And I'm only learning more and setting my life up for success. I was living in an abusive home and in active addiction and school was the last thing I could focus on.
How hard is getting your GED? I want to get mine except im not dropping out
@@xvcil1551 ged is for when you don’t finish highschool, i believe
@@veriveryluvr Nah u can still get it and not drop out ur school just has to approve
@@xvcil1551 ooh i never heard of that before, what’s the benefit though if you a diploma at the end?
@@xvcil1551 There's no point in getting a GED if you have a high school diploma
Second one need to stay in school more. Some of these “homeless” and “death row” have a higher education level than she does. 🙄😒
"Across the country, 68 percent of state prison inmates have not received a high school diploma."
"Male and female students with low academic achievement are twice as likely to become parents by their senior year of high school, compared to students with high academic achievement. In the United States, high school dropouts commit about 75% of crimes."
"High school dropouts are less likely to be active labor force participants and are more likely to be unemployed than their more educated counterparts. The current unemployment rate for high school dropouts is about 56 percent greater than that for high school completers."
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't true.
@My Me Everyone is clowing on her but she's 100 percent right. Education plays a huge role in the outcome of your life, which is why making sure kids are in achool is super crucial to a functioning society.
Death row? She said skid row bro
@@Megasaurusify Never said we should add more laws. But the facts are the facts. Kids who drop out of school are statistically less successful.
@Houseboat1 I mean that's an oversimplification of statistics. People that end up needing to drop out of high school tend to have more difficult life situations overall (bad family situation, mental health issues, etc). Forcing children to stay in school isn't the answer because dropping out of school isn't the cause.
If they seriously want people to stop dropping out, they shouldn't have made it so goddamn hard to survive out here. My cousins dropped out of college because they couldn't afford to pay more.
Dropping out isn’t a good idea but there’s exceptions like medical issues or financial issues and making it illegal just makes those peoples lives even shittier
people should be given access to help if they drop out (like classes to help get their GED or counseling services) but making it illegal will just make them struggle more. highschool is very difficult & not everybody is capable of getting their diploma, sometimes getting a GED is a better & healthier path in the long run.
I think everyone should strive to get out of highschool early. GED it up.
Oh yeah excellent advice 😂
YES! Its so easy to get a ged compared to high school. I was homeschooled instead of going to high school. I could study specifically for the ged and learned the best ways to take the test. I also studied myself for the ACT and did really well on all of them. Its so much better when you can study specifically for the test so you know what to expect.
School just isn't for everyone, really. My ex boyfriend from high school dropped out at the end of our sophomore year. His mom was nice and all but she was manic and would move them around a lot, I don't think he stayed at one school for an entire year until he was in high school and even then they moved houses a couple times around the area. It was so bad that he had major gaps in his schooling, he wasn't getting the help he needed, he came to our high school for the extracurriculars, the one he was super excited about was an absolute letdown because the teacher supposedly hated him, still not sure why, but there was a girl harassing him and the teacher did nothing about it. It was band and apparently this girl, at a football game, hit him down there with one of the mallets. Again, director did nothing. Insisted ex go back to playing, etc. Fortunately the elective he wasn't so hyped on in the beginning did end up being better than he hoped. It was JROTC, it had a lot of the structure he needed, but unfortunately it wasn't enough to keep him in school. He moved up to Alaska and I think eventually got his GED. Dunno how he's doing now.
Those people who dropped out and became druggies probably didn't actually want to drop out, but they didn't have a choice. People saying it should be illegal live in a fantasy world where everybody must be living the same luxuriously, kind life as them.
Some of the richest people on planet earth dropped out of high school.
highschool isn’t for everyone. a couple of my friends dropped out due to their mental health and some people also drop out to work so they can support their family. the first 2 girls are insane
That one guy is the problem to our society we need to band together as a village and help each other not ppl that are suffering mental illness with no intervention to pay the price 😢
last guy is so real, i cant drop out but im struggling so much and i would have so many more opportunities if i dropped out but legally i cant until im 18 but ill be out of school by then. im miserable and i have disabilities that my doctors keep "forgetting" to put in my records and so my school can't accommodate and im stuck i cant do anything
My parents grew up in a very poor environment. My dad had to drop out of middle school to support his family.
The issue isn’t that he chose to drop out, it is the lack of legislative attention toward the reason why he did in the first place.
We shouldn’t be blaming people for fighting or giving up on a broken system
I’m not going to lie, it’s a really privileged opinion to say that it should be illegal for kids to not finish high school. You have to have a certain level of privilege to not be able to see the other side of things. I’m with the beanie guy.
Second girl screams privileged AF good god
Last dude is on another plane of existence.
I wish I just worked instead of going through high school. I’d be much further ahead then I am now.
If they actually gave us a halfway decent education system I don’t think we’d have so many kids wanting to drop out. It’s like a dreadfully boring full time job but you don’t even get paid or learn anything useful past maybe 6th grade. I’ve learned more from social media and life experience than I ever have from school. They don’t care about us learning and thriving, you can tell just based on how little they pay teachers. The modern education system is made to create obedient, docile workers and that’s just one of many major issues with it. Instead of trying to punish people for reacting to their surroundings, the government needs to get to the root of the problem and just rebuild American education from the ground up. I guarantee you kids wouldn’t be truant or dropping out as often.
I agree with the two dudes. The girls have not thought this through. My mom never finished high school, even though she wanted to. Her father did not care for education and she had to drop out to go to work. My mom needed to help pay the bills, its the harsh reality of life. If its illegal to drop out, who is gonna be fined or put in jail; the student or the parents?
In my moms case, if her or her dad were fined or jailed, it would have hurt an already struggling, poor family. This is just gonna end up being a classism issue. Were only the poor and at risk communities will be fined because they are the majority of high school drop outs. Wether or not you think people should finish high school (I think they should get a GED, high school is a mess in the US) making it illegal to drop out is a TERRIBLE solution.
Why on earth would you make it illegal? Life happens even when you’re young. Why punish someone for being unable to continue education for whatever reason? There should be more help offered for those that want to finish, but it shouldn’t be forced.
The last one honestly killed me 😭😭😭😭
*screams in homeschooler*
IMO it should be compulsory to attend until the second year of HS. After that, you’re old enough to be able to make good enough decisions for your education.
got my GED beginning of my junior year (ive been homeschooled for two years) and am now working to save up for a car + college. still unsure what i want to do with life but don’t regret my decision because another two years wouldn’t make a difference anyway. just do what you want to do, but don’t make it illegal for others just because you wouldn’t go down that path
I dropped out at 16 and it was the best choice I’ve ever made for myself. I was in physical and mental pain everyday, most of my teachers didn’t actually teach (I WANT to learn constantly, so it was very frustrating.), my home life was, and still is, sucky, and so much more. I was going to kill myself or die in general if I didn’t drop out. My family judged me, older friends judged me, strangers judged me, but I don’t care. My health means more than that. I was constantly physically sick and my mental illnesses played a major role in some of my physical sicknesses as well (ex. Anxiety causing ED’s and bad stomach pain, etc). I’m 19 now, working on getting my GED, I’ve passed all my pretests without practice except math because I haven’t done it yet, and I’m physically and mentally a WHOLE
lot better. I’m not as sick anymore, I cope even better than I did before, I’m just overall better and will CONTINUE to get better. I am going at my own pace, please go at yours. Don’t let anyone force you to do anything that could be bad for you. I don’t regret what I did and I never will. I know my capabilities and I know my breaking points.
Sorry for any grammatical mistakes and for using run on sentences! I didn’t feel like typing forever lol
The two men were correct. Those girls sounded so wrong they didn’t even sound like they were confident in their own answers
Everyone should be allowed to make choices for their life as they see fit, as long as they aren't hurting others. I wish I would've dropped out of High School. I would if I could do it all over again. Instead of enduring severe bullying, I should've gotten my GED then went straight to college.
I don’t think it should be illegal. There should be a better system in place to help those kids who may have to drop out to work to support their family. Additionally a child shouldn’t have to drop out to take care of an adult (I know some events can’t be judged) but it’s not a child’s responsibility to become an adult before the right age. I will say that even though school is rough it teaches you a lot about connections and friendships, which is very important for later on in life.
There is nothing worse for the teacher and the class than having someone in school who doesn’t want to be there. They either just sleep or do shit to disrupt the class.
it kinda should be a REQUIREMENT to attend and graduate highschool completely AND there should be other resources available to struggling students (financial, emotional etc) to help them throughout that time
also education should be reformed to include practical skills
education is important dude ppl can go start their business after completing hs
Don't drop out kids. Pursue what you want and have a degree in case.
It's not always a choice....
yeah and have $100,000+ in student loans you have to pay $1000 a month for 🤣
@@tessaelto1472 many countries in the world have universities it's not just the US. I peruse it with the privilege of it being totally covered by my government because they believe it's a right for us to be highly educated. A degree is very important for your future and again you don't have to school in the US it's a capitalist country they would literally kill their own people for few more bucks.
@@tessaelto1472I have a stem degree and first year I made 80k with no loans whatsoever
@@tessaelto1472in 5 years I’ll be making considerable 6 figures and my education and the fact that my family placed importance on it is exactly why I succeeded
I had to drop out of high school because my health was really bad. I ended up finishing online in my own time but there was no way I could have done it at the time.
My step dad dropped out got his ged and is working in the HVAC area. He bought his own house and buys new cars or even expensive ones. Whilst still having money saved up. Anything is possible
I think it shouldn’t as long as they get homeschooled or educated in another way, because education is important.
Bruh, you could be the smartest and wealthiest person out there and still be homeless.
Makes you wonder what her parents have been spewing.
My mom born in LA and dropped out on her last year of highschool due to personal reasons. She later had kids and found her passion for art (and not working for the man as she says lmao). She has become a very successful person and i think it really built her to be open minded because of it. Also she has taught me that it's okay to not be like everyone else and to not have the same opinions as the two girls in this video (thinking you have to go to college, have kids, get married, etc.)
I've never been built for the school system and DESPISED being with people who lived closed minded judging my every move from teachers to other kids like me.
Later thankfully I was sent to continuation school a place that teachers used as a threat of where all the pregnant girls, druggies, "nobodys" go. Now don't get me wrong there were girls that had kids and some people that sadly got hooked on some stuff but let me tell you they were the most hardworking people I've ever met. I've gotten to meet people with so many different life stories and battles of everyday life. People with similar struggles and ideals and teachers who supported me. It really changed my outlook on life especially of those around me.
Although even with all that help I STILL struggled with school because of my past decisions and my points to graduate were not there so I got a job, saved some money, and planned to drop out once I turned 18. My parents as any other parent would, didn't want me to but encouraged me to do what I felt was right and knew I followed my mom's path as an artist as well. I was all set to leave but after debate and my teachers begging me to stay which my old school would have NEVER mind you. And after that I graduated not because I wanted to but I was one of the lucky ones to have been pushed to commit and do what I thought I couldn't do. I don't think graduating made a difference or an impact in my life but it was the people (who have also been doubted by others) that helped me in the long run.
Also biased opinion you don't need a piece of junk paper to be an artist lmao 💀 idk where it is I think I gave it to my dad because he was proud as he should 😌.
Tldr: just do whatever tf you want and people that do end up on the streets are for completely different reasons and very commonly because of lack of support sadly, so make sure you care for the people around you :)
I dropped out bc I was so scared of seeing my ex that mentally abused me, SA(ed) me, and then proceeded to call me names in the hallways with all of his friends. Just the thought of seeing him would make me shake and cry. Turns out he dropped out before I did. I regret it every day if my life.
Get your GED. There is still hope. Sorry about your abuse.
I dropped out in 3rd grade. Worked on a farm. Read books, passed all my tests with barely ever touching the textbooks and am a nurse.
It should not be illegal.
In 3rd grade? It most certainely should. As a legal adult or 16 with parental consent and completion of an exit exam like a GED? No!!!
I wish I could drop out, and yes i don’t think dropping out should be illegal, tbh I’ve been having problems at school and home, specially having to battle my stress,anxiety and just overthinking, most people think I’m just getting bullied and being delusional, but seriously, my parents are poor, and cannot always afford paying my school fees n stuff, I’ve ended up in the hospital 4 times this year because of thinking about school + my problems at home, if children could drop out and help their parents, then i wouldn’t take dropping out at a young age illegals at all. But yes i do think they should be 16+ or if school is making their mental health worse then they have the rights to drop out with a parents choice.
Hey man I know I'm just a stranger on the internet but I wish you the best, I wanted to drop out as well and now I'm 2 years into a mechanical engineering degree, maybe leaving school right now to support the family is a good idea but you should never rule out higher education and maybe one day you'll be able to break the mould and support your family doing something that you are passionate about. But the uppermost important thing is getting on top of your mental health because nothing is more important than that.
@@maxwellbull688 thanks i agree, and appreciate that a lot right now. Also congrats I wish you the best too.
they should be 15+ seeing as you can get an actual job and 15 and start driving
@@oxicon True, But it’s also kinda a bit tough dropping out at 15 and having a job but I agree that it’s very common for 15 yr olds to work. But only on weekends
Well said friend and what I think about education is that it’s merely a tool of our system that doesn’t actually teaches you at all you’re just a face to be there. Especially living here in America our education system is poor, China and some other countries like Finland have the most secure and the most passionate system to teach the younger generation everything what they need to know. High school just a huge waste of time and this whole thing of what you said about it affecting your mental health is true because the majority of these teens who are in high school that’s facing the distress of their environment is all comes from bullying making them feel threatened to a point that they had to bring a gun to school which is very common especially here in America. Suicide rates are exceptionally increasing because of this. That’s one thing what I hate school I mean what’s the point of going to school if we have the internet? Which it’s stupid I can’t stress enough to say that everything we have or do will just always get repeated non stop towards the end.
I had to leave high-school to take care of my mental health. I went on to get a GED, then graduated college, at the top of my class. It should NOT BE ILLEGAL.
If dropping out was illegal, it absolutely wouldn’t solve the homeless crisis. We can’t this “solve” complicated issue with such a basic solution. This would likely worsen the issues as a majority of dropouts are due to poverty and a poor distribution of wealth/resources. Making dropping out illegal would only further harm these communities as the child’s parents would likely be charged or taken away, leaving the child with even less or less healthy of a structure for education and future success-whatever that means to you/them.
"There shouldn't be laws" man some murders would be happy to hear that 😂
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Something that I see in other countries that makes sense to me is if you want to drop out of high school early, you should go do an apprenticeship/go learn a trade. That way you gain a skill, you have a way to make money and contacts/references
It’s so unique to hear everyone’s opinions on the situation.
My respect to the last dude
Bruh that guy with “no laws” did he ever fill his social studies credits in highschool?
my big brother was a drop out but hes so successful even after all these challenges im proud of him hes about to take over his dads car detailing/repair company and he makes enough to support him, his gf, their 2 kids, and his other 2 kids from his ex as well as he pays bills to his gfs mom and his grandpa cus they go back and forth. real proud of him
The first girls are just a walking red flag
Look how the boys
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as someone who did drop out, it saved my life. I was an honors and AP student and my sister passed away my junior year. After I turned 17, I dropped out my senior year and started working. My mental health was at an all time low in high school and i’m so much better now. I got my GED and i’m going to college almost completely paid fot
I dropped out to look after a sick relative, started working immediately after they passed and have been working well ever since. it shouldn't be illegal to do what's right for yourself in that situation
I had to drop out in the beginning of 2020 due to covid just starting and my anxiety being peak and had a lot of home and school issues going on, my mental health was starting to dip and BPD symptoms were starting to become more apparent
I dropped out of highschool at 16 because I was not learning anything new.
So I got my GED, then a job and traveled around (on my own money). Went to different museums, art shows, libraries, plays, ballets, etc across 6 states. Also spent time camping, fishing, boating and hiking in the Cascades.
Did this untill I was 20, then I went to community college for writing, got a degree and a few different certification.
I'm now 26, a mama and make over 100k.
My mother dropped out at 15, got her GED and started working at traveling carnival to pay for nursing school. At 18 she began to study being a nurse, was a nurse till she was 30. Then she went back to college to study medical office management. She's now 49 and has been the top supervisor in a hospital for a few years. She also travels around the state to teach others how to use medical records software and train new employees.
My father dropped out at 16, got his GED, took pre-college classes.
Then at 18 started his associates in engineering and graduated.
Then went onto a ivy league college.
He now an airplane engineer, and is president of a union.
My family also runs a home for severely disabled low income adults.
It's a home setting instead of a medical setting so they can live a normal life while still receiving medical care.
I also have a friend who dropped out at 15, he actaully never got his GED but instead got a job at a chain restaurant where he worked his way up. Now he's 28 and owns 3 of those restaurants in our area.
So the stereotype of a highschool drop out is....well its completely bullsh*t.
Actually in the past 5 years I've lost 3 of my class mates to a drug OD. Then 4 more are currently homeless, 2 of which I heard are active users, 1 I know is a prostitute and the other one I don't know the situation.
They were all highschool graduates....
So that 2nd girl could not be more wrong.
Highschool is no where near as important as society makes it out to be.
It's beyond glamorized.
You ever heard "they peaked in highschool"?
Yeah, as an adult you realize how true that is for a lot of people.
Making it illegal to drop out would be the worst thing for a lot of young people. It would stunt mental growth, delay education, delay careers, etc.
We do not all fit in that bubble.
Hell, I could only imagine if I was forced to stay in that "prison" learning the same thing over and over again every single day.
Highschool works for some, while it doesn't work for others.
Thats why we have the GED and pre-college courses.
wait a damn minute on that second one
These answers were not it. No, it shouldn't be illegal. There should be more pathways and alternatives to high school instead of just GEDs and high school. People dont end up in jail because they drop out of high school. They end up in jail because of other stressors that being in high school exacerbated. Graduating from high school doesn't mean your smarter or more likely to succeed in life than those who don't.
I'm from the uk so idk how it is in the us but I'm really surprised by all these success stories from dropping out! maybe it's the school I'm in we're just pressured to go to uni. most people will ask "what course will you take?" as if uni is a given
It honestly does depends on what the person wants because leaving school before graduating is tough since education is stemmed in multiple job positions now but it would be great if they were able to extend the opportunity of a GED with flexibility and multiple ways to access for everyone who dropped out just to reduce the struggle
Loved the last answer! ❤
Dad dropped out and has excelled in TWO different blue color trades over the years (carpentry and trucker) and while being happily married and raising us four kids. And he's still the best dad to this day!
In New South Wales, Australia, we have to be in school from kindergarten to grade 10. After that, you can leave if you get an apprenticeship or go to TAFE.
My best friend dropped out in 10th grade. Every time she applied for a job she would call me and ask what year did I graduate so she could put it on her application. We both worked until retirement, but she ended up with the job I always wanted but was afraid to try for.
my dad dropped out and yes he had a downward spiral but because of that he got back up stronger started his own successful business and help others with there own challenges so no school and real life don't coordinate well let people choose for themselves it will make them stronger and ultimately in the end they will appreciate what they have and enjoy /share with others
my grandpa, cousin, and friend all got GEDs and i’m working on getting mine. no drugs, no violence, no teen pregnancy. schooling doesn’t look the same for everyone. my cousin and i struggled with school work online and dealing with bullies and disrespectful peers. i want to move on with my life and not have to struggle with another year or two of highschool. I also want to better myself and start moving forward towards my dream jobs. getting a GED helps me finish school faster and with less stress
In the Netherlands there is in a literal translation a 'learn duty' so until you are 16 or 18 (don't know which one) you have to be in school or college, etc.
I felt like I was going through hell in year 13 with my mental health and bullying. I was so happy I left when I did
I dropped out because of constant bullying because of my condition, I didn't have a choice.
I had a choice. I dropped out because I was going to an alternative school for a felony charge and I ended up staying there for 3 years. I dropped out because of the staff, they would torment all of the students. One of them even has a history of inappropriately touching male students (including me) and wanding us down with metal detectors in an inappropriate way. I ended up dropping out so I could pursue my own career in music arts and I’m currently doing online schooling. dropping out is very worth it if you have a good plan for it, but if not definitely don’t. thats just my take
If I remember right, there was a video bio on yt or maybe I read on Wiki, that Axle Rose of Guns & Roses dropped out of H.S. to follow his dream of being in a rock band.
I think he actually sung in a church choir when he was younger. He left home to follow his dreams... so, he took a gamble and bet on himself.
Imagine if finishing high school was required in his lifetime when he was going to school. You wouldn't have had Guns & Roses.
I don't know if Axel maybe got his GED eventually or not, but he won at life by pursuing what worked out for him. 🤷♀️
dropping out is amazing, I get to sponge on benefits got social housing and have all day for sports and relaxation. I'm never short of stuff either.
My dad was an immigrant to the USA and had to drop out of high school so that he could work and help support his family since they were In poverty despite his father (my grandfather) working while having multiple health issues. He made a sacrifice to help support his family and eventually he had me and my siblings and is supporting and giving us opportunities he never got. I’m graduating college this may and I couldn’t be more thankful for everything he’s done and sacrificed to get me here.
When I was 15 I was sent to a new school. I had an IEP for only math, so at my old school I’d just switch when it was math time since I was a kid. At this new school I kept saying the math was too hard and I didn’t understand it (apparently the new state I was in was months ahead of my old state as well) this lady tells me ok I’ll bring you to the IEP class we have here, and I opened the door and it was a class for children with special needs. I was really upset and confused and told her I meant IEP class for extra help and she said this is it. So I went back to the regular math class. I kept telling the teacher I genuinely didn’t understand it and I needed help. She would help the other students throughout the day but when I’d ask she would tell me she can’t help everyone and I need to come after school on Tuesday’s. Not to get into it but I moved in with my uncle and he refused to pick
me up and told me I either catch the bus or that’s it, he told me I have enough time in class to understand it. A literal week later the test comes and I was like I’ve only been here a week the rest of the kids have been on this for 2. And she told me to just do my best. The problem was I genuinely couldn’t even come up with an answer. I had a lot going on at home and with other things at the time as well, I’m not sure if this had any effect on how well I did but probably. Anyway I wrote my name and just stared at the test. Tears were streaming down my face and I couldn’t concentrate. I saw her coming out of my peripheral and before I knew it she snatched my paper off my desk, went up to the front of the room and slid the trashcan beneath her. Everyone’s heads shot up to see what she was doing and she ripped my paper in half and threw it in the trash. I ran out of the class and told her off I don’t remember what I said but it wasn’t bad, not as bad as I ended up being in school after this. I was only there for a month and I’d spend everyday hiding outside and picking and choosing what classes I felt were safe to go to. I eventually got sent back home and things there weren’t any better. I’d hide in the bathroom and everything. Kids would laugh and say I didn’t care at all and was this or that but it was extremely hard for me. I got called dumb almost everyday which made me care less. I dropped out and took my GED, I got straight As on both. I cried so hard when I got my results. Anyway I like this account so thanks.
In my country they actually recently made it mandatory for age groups 2005 and younger to complete "2nd degree education" which is basically high school or vocational school. We need more workforce so it kinda makes sense, also we have good social and healthcare services here so that makes it safer for the law to be applied
The noise she made before answering made me think I was entering a radiation zone in Rust
*I don’t believe in laws*
*gets shot*
Shooter. Doesn’t get arrested
Shooter:😂😂😂