Should I Let My Son Drop Out of High School?
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- In today's video, I'm grappling with a tough, personal decision: Should I let my son drop out of high school? It's a question that many parents face, and it's not easy. Join me as I explore the pros and cons, the impact on his future, and how to make the best choice for your child's unique path.
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From An Actual High School Dropout-er…
Here’s one perspective…and maybe it’s right, maybe it’s wrong…God knows, but I had the worst time in High School during my Senior year… I had already decided that I wasn’t gonna go to college, and I didn’t want to do math or science or whatever…
None of that excited me…I wanted to be free, and do my own thing…I didn’t know what thing was…but I just did not want to be trapped in a system, caged in a box, thinking I “HAVE” to do something.
So during my Senior year, I dropped out.
Everyone called me dumb, stupid, and you’re not gonna amount to anything in life, and honestly, it was a dark time.
Even my father called me a “Loser” who plays games all day. (I was studying, staying up at night, in bed.)
I knew I wasn’t normal, nor did I want to be average…
On top of that - people told me that “I should just get a GED, or Diploma, for a SAFETY net...”
“Safety Net”…? What am I…a loser?”
No way - so I dropped without a safety net, and told myself…”I was either gonna make it into the world, or I’m not…”…
It’s the concept of burning your boats and seeing what you’re really made of.
Within the next year…I tried a lot of different things…and to test myself mentally, I entered a Marathon, and won first place at 19.
That confirmed my belief of being “good enough”.
On the side, I was always reading books, starting new businesses, and failing miserably lol…but was fun and taught me a lot of lessons that I would never change…
I’m grateful for those lessons, and those scars because they shaped me into who I am today…
Anyways... long story short - I just turned 24 now, and I make “good” money, around 70k/mo. I have multiple cars, I’m buying my family a house, and even in an AMAZING 10/10 relationship.
And honestly…dropping out was one of the best decisions I made.
If someone forced me to go to college, I think I would’ve been miserable and hated life…
I think all humans crave freedom and in regards to your son…
Yes, he may not know what he wants to do NOW, and I didn’t either…but eventually, we figured it out.
It’s all on the character of the person, rather than the “What Ifs” that may or may not happen.
As for my parents, I wish they would’ve trusted me more earlier…(they love me NOW) but, I wish they would have trusted me with my decisions, and it is my job not to let them down.
Anyways,
Here’s a quick perspective from an actual dropout…
I didn’t drop out because I had “bad grades” Well…Senior year I did because I stopped caring about school.
But hopefully, this helps.
Talk soon :)
If he were my kid, I'd say "You can drop out once you pass the GED". Then I'd drop a GED test prep book on his desk and tell him to take a practice exam. Once he took the test, then he'd know his chances of passing the GED. He can then make an informed decision of what he'd prefer, buckle down and study for the GED, or hang tight for 3 months and get a traditional diploma. While I completely agree that much of what we learn in school is worthless, one thing that is immensely valuable is learning that we have to do things that we don't want to do in order to get where we want to be.
If he were a junior I could see it, but with 3 months I think finishing is culturally helpful and mentally he'll know he could finish something he hated and pushed himself over the finish line.
BTW, that's not parenting advice. Just advice from someone that knows the ease of quitting too well.
My sun too! Wow time for a stronger intuition connection…90 days left get it done. A stepping stone. What does he need to finish? Will he make it if he improves in time? Will keep the door open if he wishes to study a skillset where he actually needs College-school training…Go into Meditation to get the download from God-higher self …intuition is the most important lesson here
Agreed
I've been following you almost since day one. If I use the wisdom of what I learned from you the question would be. Is there a wrong choice, or is not choosing exactly what is holding you back. Education never stops, from experience you can always make a new choice every day. In other words, your life starts over agian when you wake up. Choosing is the first step. But realize that everything you pay attention to grows and that has a negative as well as a positive effect. If you perceive that it has a negative effect, you as a father must support this, because growth costs you time. And time is the most valuable thing there is.
Remember that!
Omg! I am struggling with this too. My son is a junior and is going to finish this year but wants to get a GED so he doesn’t have to attend his senior year.
He has struggled throughout school and won’t have all the units he needs and will have to take extra schooling.
He has been learning business and how to develop his own business. He has been doing this for a little over a year. His goal is to make money before his senior year starts, $5,000 a month, and keep going up from there, so I would be ok with him not attending his senior year.
I have seen so much growth in him. He has a very well developed morning routine and time manages the rest of his day getting school work done, as well as his business building courses and has had a profitable car detailing business.
My view about school has changed from raising my older children, I realize they are programming children to stay in a system of just working a 9 to 5 job (just over broke) so they don’t agree with me about letting him take a GED and get started at building a business.
So if I were you I would be ok with him not finishing school 😊
Looks like you did great. Take care not to omit happiness and to develop all the important aspects of life as intensely as he develops the business.
One of my nieces was failing school. Always a talker and ADHD. She ended up taking the GED test and passed without much effort. She just wasn't challenged while she was in school. I taught my ex-husband basic algebra and he understood it. Never liked school but comprehended what I showed him. He never could hold a job but was able to run a successful mobile detailing business in 2 different states. One of them he sold.
I believe (and I am a grandmother now) that it is a parents' duty to find out your child's gift. My son liked math and never cared for art/writing...he worked part-time with my husband who manufactures superchargers...During this time he was able to comprehend and apply his math skills. He still had to take the college prep courses and he went to first JR. College then transferred over to a University. However he was trying to please dad (who did not want him to get bogged down running Hampton Blowers/Superchargers) so he tried his hand at taking classes to become a physician. He hated this career...but he also didn't like disappointing dad. However he switched his career to tech and currently works at a high tech company...He also is taking courses (the company is paying for) to get his doctorate.
Our daughter loves music, singing, writing...Our gift to her was to provide her the tools she needed to excel. She didn't like high school but has maintained friendships with people she went to school with to this day. And she is a professional singer, has a successful career in the music industry and was able to branch-out into her own entrepreneur business.
My three grands are 8 & 9 yr olds...whom I'm discovering what they enjoy (their gifts) by exposing them to various options through playing games, movies (followed by conversing about the movie), and listening to them when they talk to friends or each other.
I report my observations to my kids...
My 9 year old grandson loves producing movies...And I help him with this at my home when they have sleep-overs.
I remember when I was in High School, my senior year, I did not get a lead role in our annual musical (something I had hoped for and auditioned for for 4 years). It was 1972 and I was the only person of color who auditioned; the musical was "Guys and Dolls"; and the teacher did not want to "cross the color-line"...even though she told me each year that my senior year I would get a lead part...So she added a "Cuban Girl Part"for me. I felt hurt, upset, degraded...All four years I was her top vocalist even taking home the coveted Blue Ribbon Award in a State competition.
I wanted to quit! My mother, who had a much difficult life than I ever dreamed of...advised "If you quit...no one will have ever known that you even tried out or received a lesser part."
I did not quit...I felt miserable during the production...but by my participating (and doing my best) even though it was difficult...I accomplished something greater.
Fast forward I wrote two musicals that did not require color...looks...ethnicity...social standing...the musicals and based this on talent.
I say don't quit...This lesson, struggle, what seems like a hardship now, will serve as a lesson later for someone else. Dig deep and discover the tools you have and need to hang in there!
Wow thank you for sharing!
Hi Russell, you know I love you brother.
My basic thoughts are these... none of us need degrees and certificates to succeed. It is more about the value we bring to the world. And to multiply that value by a high multiple, partner with others that have complimentary skills. Much like combining you and Todd. It is the right combination of skills.
I have a master's degree in finance from Harvard. About a year into the program, I ran the "ROI" on the HIGH PRICE of that education, and what it would change in my income. What was so funny about doing that, is I realized the ROI would be doubled if I acquired the same skills through a State school. And an amazing ROI if I went to BYU.
On top of that I wanted to quit at least once a month. I was also working full-time, a husband, father of 5, and volunteering 4-5 hours a week. Then I thought about the people I was surrounded with. I was surrounded by high achievers! I was at the "Harvard Mastermind". When I was in your 2CCX group, it is a lot like being with my Harvard peers. Same for other Masterminds I have paid to be a part of. But I would add, there are many doors that close to people when they don't have degrees. When I hire team members, all their degree tells me is that they know how to achieve long-term goals. I don't hire short-term thinkers/doers.
I have no actual opinion about what your son does. All I can tell you is my own experience with my kids. With one of them, we let them quit a team sport they were not enjoying. To sum it up, that same child wants to quit almost everything when they no longer enjoy it. We teach them the importance of learning to deal with challenges, disappointments, stinking at something, and being hurt... I'm not saying that quitting one time was the fork in the road. But I do think it reinforced a belief that quitting is the answer to handling difficulties.
"Starting life" 6 months earlier may feel like a win right away, but won't make much of a difference to how his life turns out. He will have the same parents and setting to take his next steps in life. In the eternal scheme of things, it is more about WHO we want to become. And there are many paths that end up with the same result.
I dropped out after high school and have never looked back (50 years later ;) My reasoning was to start a business (and I did with the support and backing of my father and family) and figured if it didn't work out - I would go back to school - just a year or two older than the rest of the class - not returning to grade 12 as a 42 year old. Funny thing was... after starting a business and growing that business, I went back to school part time and evenings... to learn specific things. School isn't the be all and end all. Best of luck Russell! Thanks for all of your content, books and everything else!
Hi Russell ! The whole CF community is behind you and your family. You did the right thing. We love you, we support you
Just let him know he’s going to meet this struggle again, be it the determination to finish something (school) regardless of how much he likes it or in business.
I left college the first semester due to going down the “wrong path” as I was in a similar spot as your son. I was entrepreneurial (grew up in an entrepreneurial family) but had dyslexia, add, adhd, etc, etc and fell off not being able to make a connection with what I had for the future. I wanted to run a business!
Looking back 10 years later, part of me wishes I toughed it out but I’ve learned so much diving into the world of operating businesses (law suits, closures, failures, and all). But man, if I had taken law and finance classes I would be so much further ahead in how to operate at the highest levels.
Praying for your son and your family as you navigate this decision. May the Lord give you strength and a peace about what he has for your son.
So good, love the vulnerability here. My son (16) struggles with school, too. Crazy smart. Autistic. Doesn’t want college. But not finishing high school can block him from military opportunities etc. I think just like in each business, our lives are unique. Every challenge, opportunity and choice. Weigh it out. Pray it out. God always gives me clarity in the end. Only you will know that answer for your family. I love this video. Our kids are bigger than these institutions that regularly fail to facilitate learning the way many kids need it. What is best for him right now?
I'm 17 and starting a business right now. I've been homeschooled/self educated for all of high school. Overall I wouldn't change it for anything but I had to be deliberate about getting out of the house. There's more social contact than you might think, you just have to work for it a little more. It's been amazing to read and follow the best instead of hearing it through a middle man. I've been trying to start a small window washing business to pick up some experience and it's been life changing. College is still a an option even if you don't have a high school diploma. I have cousins who graduated from BYU without a high school diploma, GED or ACT.
Great insights, thank you for sharing
How do they get into University without those things?
I am in a similar situation, I am currently learning in high school and have watched marketing-related content for a while now, and what I recommended (and do...) was to tell my parents what I wanted and prove myself, If I could gain money as I am in Highschool doing all the tasks I will surely be able to do it better as I am out. therefore my recommendation as a student is to give him a challenge or something he needs to achieve, it could be a goal money, or anything and only then let him quit, so he will actually experience the thing/job he wants and be able to make his decision better
As someone who went through school, always feeling like I was just going through the motions, waiting to move from one grade to the next, I've learned so much more outside of the educational system then I did within it.
I am motivate by personal development and so I have challenged myself to understand new concepts and to learn new skillsets that actually impact my life.
Just the single act of learning new skills, I now have the confidence to run into the darkness of the unknown. This is only because I believe the greatest skillsets anyone could have is bing resourceful and able to problem solve.
Once you know how to do that, you can accomplish almost anything as long as you put in the work.
Although I do not have kids and do not know the answer, I can relate to how your son is feeling and I personally wished I started earlier. Luckily for most of us, life is long enough to try and fail, try and fail, and keep trying until you succeed. Because if you're not constantly pushing yourselves, then what's the point.
Thanks for a great video Russell, I appreciate your honesty and willingness to share.
I feel scammed. Especially now with everyone dropping out at 16 and getting jobs because they’re good looking
@@DrJohannPryce Yes, but when something becomes easier, there is a lot more competition and it may seem like everyone is doing well, I would assume less than 1% of them are actually making a living from it.
I've been following you almost since day one. If I use the wisdom of what I learned from you the question would be. Is there a wrong choice, or is not choosing exactly what is holding you back. Education never stops, from experience you can always make a new choice every day. In other words, your life starts over agian when you wake up. Choosing is the first step. But realize that everything you pay attention to grows and that has a negative as well as a positive effect. If you perceive that it has a negative effect, you as a father must support this, because growth costs you time. And time is the most valuable thing there is.
Remember that!
Although the usefulness of learning in primary school is still useful, high school seems at odds with personal development. High school is the beginning of choosing a path in a society that seems to be changing. I have always been against the system and only now, after 40 years, I see that my attitude and choices, misunderstood by those dependent on the system, helped me become what I have become. I am about to build something massive and reflecting on everything, I would not have been able to do this, following the trend of society. Ask him what kind of man he wants to become and building from there, he can make the necessary choices that will help him become that man.
Listening to you. I think you already answered your question Russell. You struggled in school and you turned out GREAT!!! Your son is listening to his intuition. Intuition already knows and he wants to follow it. With you being his guide, he will turn out to be GREAT like his dad.
Russell...We both grew up going to Public Schools & then going to College. My kids are Homeschooled & I Love being Highly Involved in their Education. My Amazing wife has been the Miracle maker in their Lives. If you look at 1 day in their learning it may not be a big deal. But over the long term it really adds up & really shapes their learning & the Direction of their Lives. The Love of Learning is the Key for All Kids & Adults to Embrace & Implement! Once this happens...Incredible Discoveries take off in your Kids.
I wanted to be done with school after high school. My parents are entrepreneurial and I pretty much had my path figured out by then... But they recommended college and I went for a computer science and engineering degree because I did a coding class and I really liked it.
Those two degrees were some of the hardest years of my life, I had to keep pushing my "real life" back each semester and I struggled with finances throughout it... But I also got married, and the things I learned in those two degrees have given me a confidence in myself and my ability that I wouldn't have gotten anywhere else. And it's not just learning how to learn... With computer science and engineering, you have to learn about physics, electricity, and a host of other courses as well. Things that you will never get around to learning if you weren't in school!
One day near the end of my studies, I paused for a second and realized that I had actually learned about the entire spectrum of what a computer program was... From the electrons inside the atom, to circuits, to logic gates, to binary, to operating systems, to coding languages, to user interfaces, to networking, etc... I actually had a decent understanding of the entire gambit of this increasingly technology-based world. It gave me a greater belief in God, it gave me a greater understanding of how He designs the world, how the tech world works (it's not that complicated actually), it gave me confidence, and it has helped me solve problems in lots of areas of my life.
I say STAY IN SCHOOL... Especially if he has the chance to have his finances covered during school. Oh yeah, and all those dreams I had when I finished high school are still here and they're still fully possible for me to realize, some of them even more so.
I am a 18 year old who was in the exact same situation as your son. I knew what I wanted to peruse in life, (especially after reading expert secrets and going to FHL in 2023) and I knew that school was a waste of time. I am the first to say I hated school but in hindsight I admit it helped build skills like learning how to read and developing my work ethic. But how much better would it be if I learned all of that stuff while perusing my purpose. Anyway I did not drop out but what I did do was graduate a semester early as a senior. This was one of the best things that have happened to me in my life. I am extremely grateful for my parents supporting me while I am perusing my passion. I have little visible results to show for it now, however the developments it has had on my personal growth have been invaluable. I am convinced that I am far better off now going all in then I would be if I were going down the traditional path. I think that you should 100% let him drop out because school just does not matter and for every benefit and argument for school, you can also receive that benefit without it.
Just wanted to share a different perspective. You see, I've been in those shoes, feeling the itch to break free and do my own thing. Now, at 25, I look back with a mix of emotions. School was a drag for me, not because I couldn't handle it, but because it never sparked a fire in me. Despite being ahead of the curve intellectually, the traditional path of education just didn't motivate me. My parents even considered bumping me up a grade, but I was more drawn to the thrill of entrepreneurship and the richness of extracurriculars. I never bothered with homework, yet I managed to coast through with decent grades, thanks to my test scores.
From a young age, I had the entrepreneurial bug - in elementary school I remember starting a little business taking trash cans to and from the curb for my neighbors. By high school, though, my disinterest in my studies turned into outright rebellion. I passed up the chance to fast-track my education, dabbling instead in less savory activities such as selling and using drugs. But here I am now, having turned a corner, using the wisdom gained from those and other experiences to forge a better path, thanks to God’s intervention. It's funny, looking back, how He has a way of guiding and forging us through even when we're at our most defiant.
I've had moments of reflection, wondering how different things might be if I'd made other choices. But dwelling on what-ifs is a dead end. This comment is the longest I've let myself ruminate on the past in a long while. I haven't watched your video yet, so forgive me if I'm echoing your thoughts. But if you're considering letting your kid test out early, my advice is to make sure they have the right support and guidance to chase what truly lights them up. With the right encouragement and wisdom from you and those God places in their life along the way, they'll navigate just fine.
Perhaps there is a way that he can finish without going to classes?
I be dropped out in my senior year to move to the middle or nowhere and work fulltime doing manual labour.
The catch though that convinced my parents was that I could sign up for a correspondence program where i did my remaining credits through the mail. So I was able to work full time and complete my final four credits and actually be done months before the rest of my class and never touched a classroom.
It taught me the importance of following through and completing what I started and it taught me that you don’t have to do it the same way as everyone else. At the end of the day we all had the same piece of paper saying we finished.
I think especially if he is going to get into entrepreneurship, learning the lesson of taking a project to the finish line is worth it!
I dropped out my junior year and decided to get my GED then jumped right into sales and marketing and never looked back. If he's self motivated to achieve his goals he will succeed
Thank you for posing this very important question and opening the the stream of dialogue. I am a Canadian educator and counselor specializing in supporting home based learners. I love my work for many reasons, but the best part of my job is helping children and their parents understand there are many options. Education is absolutely about following your passions and learning new skills. Standardized tests and irrelevant curriculum do not support this. You and your son have clearly identified that his current school and courses are not enabling him to reach his full potential. I agree that a change is needed, but dropping out does not need to be the option either. I would do some research to see what other options are better suited for him. How can he get the credits he needs to get a high school diploma (does it have to be American??) and do something that excited him as well? Get creative, think outside the box and as he sai -live now! Here in Canada we have programs and courses where you can get dual credits for high school and college, we have trades programs you can graduate with certifications for immediate entry into the work force, creative at programs that get you into the fine arts right away. I say follow the open doors that fill you with a full heck yes 10/10 feeling. The fact that he has identified what isn’t working and is able to back it with reasons, and feels safe enough to discuss this with you tells me he is a brilliant young man with drive and has the ability to achieve at high levels. Keep up the great work!
Despite the fact that school and university is a complete waste of time, I would tell my children that they should finish high school.
It’s easy to say that “this is a waste of time” and “I want to start my life right now”. However, kids don’t really understand that life as an adult is exceptionally difficult, even if you pursue something you find interesting.
Doing something you don’t actually like (school), at such a young age, prepare our children to see that life is not always perfect and there are things that we don’t feel like doing but that we have to do it anyways, because we are conquers.
After high school, my kids can face the harshest realities of the world in whatever way they want.
Finish high school now, since he’s so close, And I’m sure given the landscape, knowing some of his father’s story , Healing into you and move ahead in the powerful way!
These are my two cents; I think the current model of education is broken, a society doesn´t run solely on doctors or accountants or lawyers it needs technitians like plumbers, electritians, cooks, farmers so trade schools are very important but don´t get the merit they should get. With Internet your kid can self educate himself, he can get a well rounded education and be an amazing professional in whatever he wants to do and serve. So the first step would be to know what kind of things he´s passionate and then pick whatever course he wants to learn on the plethora of educational platforms there are on the Internet
I struggled in school and dropped out in my senior year. I'm 67 now and have written 13 books. Unfortunately, I have financially struggled most of my life. I think family structure is everything, and what was modeled to them in the home is what is most important.
Plan together , what are his gifts ? That's where he needs to put his time energy. Yes he will do great things in life just like his dad.🙏💞
My daughter struggled terribly in school. She's an incredible human...kind, caring, outgoing, smart, she has a lot of common sense, wrote her first book at 9yo, went to SuperConference that same year...she's amazing! And she hated school. We actually pulled her out in middle school and enrolled her in online school. I wanted her to learn the lesson of perseverence, doing things that you don't understand, and how to work with people she didn't understand. Because regardless of our path, these things come up in life. Whether it's doctors or colleagues or in laws. LOL So, she graduated with our support and took some time off. She ended up going back to college to prove to herself she could do it. And in 3 months she will graduate with a 4.42 GPA as a member of multiple Honors Societies. As a business owner and nonprofit founder, that won't really affect her chances of success all that much. What will is the pride and resilience she earned by finishing high school.
That being said, I also don't think there's a wrong answer here. I would encourage at least encouraging him to get his GED as that does actually open some doors that not completing high school would close. That way if he changes his mind later, he has options. I believe our job as parents is to give our kids tools and options. And however you do that will set him up for success.
Hey Russell!!
If he’s a senior, ask him to finish🔥 there is power in finishing something. Then go for it!! 🏆🏆🏆 blessings!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Wow Russell this was raw. I loved it because we have had so many similar conversations in our family. I have a son on a mission that graduated 6 months early last year because he just wanted to be done with school. Last week my 16 year old (sophomore) told us he met with his counselor and he dropped seminary next year so he could get enough credits to graduate a year early. This would allow him to go on a mission when he turns 18. Both of these two boys tell me they want to be entrepreneurs. They are still not sure what they want to do, but they both know that they don't want to go to college. My wife and I are OK with that. But for some reason the high school decision seems harder. Maybe it is because of our community and the judgements we feel we may get if our kids just drop out. I was on the phone with my dad last night. He was a high school teacher and coached football, wrestling and baseball. I told him about my son wanting to be done with high school early. He just laughed and said, "that kid doesn't need school. He will be a millionaire with whatever he decides to do." Things are definitely changing. Our world is different than it was 25 years ago. We have to do what is best for our families - not what the world thinks is best. I'm sure you'll make the right decision (and I look forward to hearing what that decision is).
Hello Russell do not let your son drop out. Not because of the education I truly believe they aren't really teaching anything useful, but he will learn by going through the struggle of doing and dealing with something he doesn't want to do.
I hated school and as ir turns out I didn't really need it but the lessons I learned dealing with the teachers, classmates, and just having to get up early everyday to go do something I hated was a lesson in itself.
Make him finish and let him understand what the struggle was about. God Bless
Russell, come on my brother. He’s a child, it’s not time to quit his job. It’s not about the classes, it’s about his accomplishment, commitment, social growth, and success at this stage of his life. You can have it all. You’ll never regret being more accomplished. Show the world you can graduate high school, college, and beyond, and make connections, build businesses, find love. There is no loss to completing high school … or college… only something to gain. It doesn’t stop you from anything. But having no degree or diploma can have a negative impact if all else fails. Love you 🙏
Interesting video ❤ I got into nursing school with a diploma I purchased online which I’m still ashamed to say I did but I tried taking the GED severally and failed so I had no option
The school year is almost done. Like one more quarter and that's it. I would suggest to finish the school year since it would be only 3 more months. But if he is really struggling, I would ask him to either finish high school or get GED in case he needs it in the future. I have a Sophomore right now and that's what I would do with my kid. Also, your kid is very smart and an Entrepreneur , I am sure he will follow your steps in his own journey. Good luck!
For a variety of reasons, including health issues and a disconnect with how the school system works, my kiddo went part homeschool/part traditional school through high school. I feel satisfied with her level of education and the paths she wants to pursue don't require college. Still, she "jokes" that she's a high school drop out and while it's 90% teasing, she's a little disappointed that she didn't 'accomplish the thing'. Also not following the path of her peers out of high school into college has often left her feeling outside of something. My suggestion is to find solutions for that...make sure he still feels accomplished and purposeful and help him find the moments and ways to be a part of peer social groups. Then do whatever feels right for that kid.
Hey Russel,
Really great to see that you open up about such personal topics with your audience! I think there is much to learn about this topic.
The first question that I would ask is - is this an irreversible decision? I don't think so. Your son can pursue his passion projects and explore "real life" first. Based on those experiences, he still can decide to go back to school. This would not only give him a competitive advantage compared to his fellow students but also make his decision about which degree to pursue more meaningful.
The second question - how mature is your son? In his reasoning does he actually have an actionable plan on how wants to develop his career? Is there a game plan that seems to you (as a seasoned entrepreneur) to be realistic and actionable? Do you believe he has the qualities to execute? It seems based on your video that your son has a clear picture in his head and is hungry to prove himself.
As a career coach for high school students, I often see the detriment of parents being overly protective and overly restrictive in terms of the career choices of their kids. Familiarizing your son with the concept of freedom which (importantly) is coupled with RESPONSIBILITY, is in my experience the best way. Explain to him that you are ready to give him the freedom if he is ready to take the responsibility of gradually taking care of himself.
Unfortunately, our current education system is clearly rewarding convergent thinking processes. This is why people such as yourself and your son (and many other gifted individuals) can feel that their talents, which seem to be so valuable in the real world, are not appreciated in the educational system. And this is true.
For some people having a safe job is an important asset. But for those, who desire to use divergent thinking and try to create something new in this world - why force in a system that was clearly not designed for them?
Thank you for your insights!
I’m currently in high school, working on business right now. I would give him two options- stay in school for another year and use it as an opportunity to grow and in case he ever wants to pursue higher level education when he’s older, and drop out today, but only if he has a plan for his immediate future.
When grappling with such decisions, it's essential to weigh the individual's strengths, interests, and goals. Consider exploring alternative education options, such as online programs, vocational training, or apprenticeships. Additionally, consulting with education and career counselors can provide valuable insights tailored to your son's specific situation.
Remember that each individual's path is unique, and the decision should align with your son's aspirations and potential avenues for success. It's crucial to balance the pursuit of asking himself the questions is this my passion, is this my burning desire, what is my purpose in life, how can I serve myself to serve others. With practical considerations for his future opportunities. Having this discussion,
This to me means you are one of the greatest Dads ever. As long as he never says he is doing it to get rich but that he is doing it to change the lives of millions of people he is on the right track. Thanks for sharing this touched my heart.
As a University student I sat down to talk with my father, I told him the same thing like I don't see myself as university graduate, he didn't like the Idea + universities where I am from are kind of free like there is none of that student loan type stuff, but really cuz I spent two years studying modules and passing exams and I realized that all of the knowledge that I get is only gonna help pass those exams, my dad didn't like the idea still kind of with it and against it at the same time, He is kind of and old school person he believes in getting degrees to get a good paying job, but I managed to convince that I should try and work IRL to hone my skills so I can get a taste of life
Not everyone fits in a box. School is very systematized, both public, and even private to a point. We have done both, including homeschool. Before making the decision I would ask him to go inward a bit and think about what he wants. Who does he want to be? How does he want to impact? Then there is the act of quitting itself. Are we as parents making it ok for our children to quit if/when it gets tough? Are we raising strong men? Can he make some positive impact or change in his current situation? There is a lot to consider, and every situation is different. Happy to chat more. Best of luck.
We have homeschooled our boys since preschool, our oldest is 16. Each parent has to make the right decision for their family. For us, we reevaluate each year to make sure we are doing what is best for our kids if we continue the path or what courses we introduce but there is also a pushing them out of their comfort zone aspect. For instance my oldest didn't want to take Spanish or Computer Programming...turns out he really still doesn't like Spanish but loves CP. So next year he has asked to focus more on that. We are full time creators and they have taken an interest in it as well so it has become a family business. One has started creating/making money making Fortnite maps and another is working towards learning how to edit. All that being said have they wanted to quit school, Yes...but at this point we want them to finish. Again we are doing more as you have said and customizing their learning with some additional things that may be pointless but it may also help them find their passion and will be useful. The other bonus for us is that we start our school year first week of August and usually the last day is around the first week of March and that also includes time off for FHL or travel work, they are self paced so some weeks are a full 5 days others are shorter depending on what they decide to do each day. This teaches them to work smarter not harder. All of this to say you know what works best for him, pray on it and work as a team.
Also we don't expect college from our kids. I went and met my husband (he worked for the university starting at age 18, a story we can share when we meet you) I have my degree for a backup...Mark got his degree when he was 35 (to officially get the job title and raise) and then quit to create Content & Funnels just 4 years later.
College is still a great place to meet an eternal companion... I think going for awhile even if you aren't planning to graduate is important because of having the opportunity to meet the right person at the right time. Your son doesn't need to graduate to go to college though... The Pathway program doesn't require a high school degree. I homeschooled my kids and have sent 3 of them through Pathways and they have all moved onto college from there. You have a safety net for your family financially that does not make school the safety net that many other people need. I really don't think it is necessary for your son to finish high school, but going to school for at least awhile to have the opporutnity to meet the right person could be really good...
I get both sides of the argument. My oldest wants to dropout and be like Dave Groll because she wants to be in a band and travel and tour. I told her getting her high school diploma is a must if she ever decides to change her mind. My nursing education doesn’t make me millions, but the education was priceless to me because it made me a better mother, communicator, taught me how to validate people, it taught me critical thinking problem solving skills, invaluable life saving skills, and lets me teach, serve and find fulfillment in a way money will never be able to give me. Knowledge is something we carry with us.
Going to college may not be the best idea for him, but he will learn new ways to look at things, how to communicate with different people, how to problem solve better, learn time management because of having to balance studying with play or downtime. Maybe your twins won’t ever use all the knowledge they could learn, but the people they could become, the leaders, the people they could help, friendships they could build, and mentors they could find. You need to look at the bigger picture. They don’t possess the ability as teens to see it yet because their brains haven’t developed that level of concrete thinking. Sorry this is long. I would say a high school diploma is a must have should they want to pursue something different. Better to have it and not necessarily need it, then need it and not have it. Will I ever use dimensional analysis from Chemistry? Not to the extent I learned it. However, it was a challenge for me which I really struggled to grasp. It forces you to learn new subjects and to think outside the box. RUclips saved me in college chemistry. Isn’t growth and learning and serving what it’s all about? Bigger picture.
Wow this is a hard one. I don't have kids so I cannot imagine making a decision like that. I am with you in the sense that school does not make or break you. I can argue it both ways. Maybe the most important things about school is not the actual stuff we learn, maybe the most important thing about school is that it teaches us to finish what we started. Once we start quitting, quitting becomes easier. Maybe the only value school has is to teach us to stick with something long enough to finish it, even if we don't want to. And resilience is everything...
My wife is one of 5 kids, the 4 other siblings all dropped out of high school. Eventually they decided to do a GED on their own, this idea came from the reality of not having any education. What we have learned with our own kids is this lesson, the desire needs to come from with in, as parents we can give our advice but until they internalize it doesn’t have impact.
So far it has worked out, they discovered their own sports, not what we wanted, the eldest at 24 finished his masters degree that he wanted, in an are he loved and paid for it with his money and managed no debt. The youngest is finding his own path, first hating university and want to quit, to finding an area he loves and now wanting to get his masters degree.
Honestly, I would tell him to suck it up... it's 12 weeks... We can do HARD things for 12 weeks. THAT is a skill that he will need as an entrepreneur, the skill of listening even when you don't want to (to teachers, to peers)... the skill of not fitting in (and having to find how to fit in - aka those are the skills of getting into the mindset of our customers, when we are not the customers)... the skill of powering through when we are FED UP but also so close to the finish line.
One of mine is graduating early, he found a way to test out of a bunch of classes and do "seat time" and take "virtual classes" at night in addition to his regular classes so he can graduate early. He's not "book smart" but he's found a way to hustle through it...
Hugs. It's hard. Your kid will make it no matter what you choose.
I can argue both sides… like, build grit to finish what you started and do things even when you don’t “feel” like it… but at the same time, there’s the sunk cost fallacy and why continue something if there isn’t a bigger outcome that you wanted in the first place…
Ultimately my personal gut reaction is if this happens to my children I would ask them to finish it out or at least get a GED but def would not pressure (and possibly wouldn’t even encourage) the to go to college.
Hi Russell, You should be the only one to answer that question. You know better than anyone else to your son. There are not rights or wrongs decisions. Life is unpredictable and it will be a test for your son’s resilience towards the choices and risks that he will take in his life. He has been very blessed with money and family like yours. So, You will be his net if he needs help or if he decides drop off from high school. Best wishes to both of you.
I've seen more people stigmatized by not finishing high school than not going to college. I'd recommend finishing the year but use the time to figure out what those next steps are. The last 6 months in high school could also be some of the most fun times with class mates. 3-4 months may seem like forever to your son, but it's only a blink in time overall.
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It's crazy Russel ! I am in the exact same situation.
I am 16, my book of the week is literally DOTCOM SECRETS and man I don't see the point of school anymore.
I am learning the things that really matters to me at Home, going to a BJJ after school, and I am starting my business also after School.
So why I am passing 8 hours per day listening to French literature or whatever...
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Start a business first, earn money first, and then leave school. Don't do it the other way.
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Crazy how so many people finally see that school is useless. Honestly, I've been in this situation for YEARS. I'm 16 and I would honestly push it through. I don't think he should go to college but he is so close to finishing I would just have him finish high school and if he wants he doesn't even have to walk on graduation day. Just get through it finish it and quickly go into what you desire, it's the hard truth but I have had the same feeling and realized you just have to push through high school.
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Depends on your state and country. Depends on his age aswell, in Georgia you can drop out at 17 without parental consent
The one question i feel that needs to be addressed .... what does "let me start my life today" look like to him?
There is value to be gained slogging through just *ONE* MORE YEAR to finish high school -- school can suck there's an element of actually graduating can help his identy later in life?? (another angle)
While he may/may not know exactly what he wants to do -- have you identified the systems/routines/habits he has to have in place to ensure his success?
The Idea is to TRIAL it ... finish Junior year ..... and START this summer, as a TRIAL before his senior year whatever critera you, mom, and your son set and meet to be comfortable with him skipping high school.
Hope this helps amigo! (have 3 kids of my own with convos similar to this with some of my kids)
Yes and No, it all depends in so many variants that you only be able to see once time goes by, I tell my 2 teenage sons that if you want to drop out, then at least let me do homeschooling! and at least get a 2 week Real Estate license to support yourselves just like I did when I dropped out of school, but the other comment is right as well since sometimes just like a drivers license I think some states might start enforcing for youngsters to get a high school diploma....
the truth is failing is part of life just because - you fail to graduate and your friends leave you behind does not mean you are a loser..you will - find new friends and learn new skills it's okay just encourage him to repeat his senior year again. - Am sure when he repeats he will get better grades. But you need to encourage him even after he fails - his exams and let him know that you will always pay for his education.
I struggled with this, but it was for my son going to college. I used to believe in college 100%. My 1st son just graduated college. When it came to my 2nd, who is highly intelligent, creative, and musical, did he really need college? He isn't going to be a doctor or lawyer. A degree is no guarantee of a great career.
So much has changed and is changing in the world with AI. I think today, entrepreneurial skills are more necessary than a basic degree. Plus, the cost of college is prohibitive.. and we can easily afford it!
My 1st son sold his successful biz to 2nd son to work in his degree - accounting. So now, he's working the grind, stuck in a salary.
Your son can always go back and get his GED when he's ready. But he can't get time back. Where would he be best spending his next 4 years of focus? Sounds like he already knows in his heart the answer.
College is such a societal norm. We've all been indoctrinated to follow these steps. It's hard to see my son missing out on living at college, and the social scene with kids his age... but what's it all for? Overpriced party. To be in debt upon graduating?
My son is a successful entrepreneur. He's 19. Has been working his biz with brother since he was 12. He's making good money.
Just my opinion, I think the best gift you can give your son is to let him decide his path. Too much has changed today and the future is unknown... and I think you know this better than most. You know what's coming with AI. The skill sets needed today aren't the same as they were even 10 years ago. Your son is highly motivated and wants to get started on life now. He's ready. It's a tough decision and you're asking the right questions. But, it's not an end all be all. He can get his GED anytime.
One caveat, if he did drop out, he has to go through all your trainings... better than any degree!😊
The education system in the US is a scam. He’s in the wrong school. I would give him the option to take the GED and pass or finish what he started. Have you spoken to his teachers to see what is needed for him to graduate? What’s does start your life looks like to him? Creatives struggle the most in the real world. My husband barely made it out of one class. His teacher told him to show up and be quiet. He graduated from high school and excel in college. College was on his terms. Good luck.
What alternative pathway does he intend to pursue instead of traditional schooling? Learning extends far beyond the confines of formal education and is a continuous journey throughout life. If he can devise a comprehensive plan outlining how he intends to perpetually expand his knowledge, cultivate his skills, generate creative output, and contribute to others, along with how he intends to select mentors and effectively manage his time, then it would merit serious consideration.
I, as a teenager, after observing the trends around me regarding the flawed education system and dropping out, after having multiple fights with my parents and heated arguments with my principal and teachers several times, I have learned that I have absolutely no power if I can't prove my plan, if I can't make things work, if I can't figure shit out. In an economy where business education will get more and more accessible to everyone, the thing that will seperate the winners from the losers is not knowledge but implementation.
If I were talking to your son, as I am probably his age (17), I would straight up ask him to prove to me that he's committed to whatever he's doing, that he's going to make it work, that he has earned x amount of dollars from it before and here's his plan to scale it and here are the difficulties that he would face and here is his plan to overcome them.
I won't let him drop out of school just because he read Rich dad Poor Dad.
Acquiring information is not learning.
Prove to me that you'll be able to survive with your work.
Prove to me that you're committed.
I would make a pact with them. Try for 2 years outside. If you succeded perfect, if not, you can always return to school! There is always that option.
I would have him get his GED just because it keeps doors open for him just in case. Unfortunately, we live in a society that values degrees and having that silly GED will help just not close that door for him. After he does that I vote let him follow his passion and live his life. Of course there is the whole setting up accountability systems. I think the hardest thing about being an entrepreneur is that you get to create the system you work in and that requires a degree of persistence and will that I know I learned from a combination of my upbringing and the formal institutions I was a part (school, military, and corporate). He does also have the incredible fortune to have access to a great entrepreneurial example so I'm sure he can learn the structure part. (Side note..I commend you for creating a home where he can have a voice to advocate for himself and be heard.)
It depends - if he’s mature enough and has a track record of good choices and shown he will use the time he’s not in school wisely and shown he is driven to improving his skill set / Building his intellect/ working, then perhaps it won’t be detrimental. Based on what you have seen in his life as his parent you probably have the best sense of the true motivations. If his record demonstrates hard work and mature decision making probably ok but if he’s one who goofs off prone to partying then might be a mistake. It’s really boils down to what is this young man ready to accomplish when he quits school?
My daughter is passionate about two things, makeup and building communities to follower her. She is 17 in collage majoring in marketing and business. Someone asked what in the world was I thinking letting her major in something like marketing, because she could probably teach many of the classes. She has 240K followers on TikTok, 80K on Instagram and just started RUclips 3 days about and already has 3K followers with a video hitting 15K views. In my family, I think we are going thru the motion of "education" because we get stumped about options. They thought I was the worst parent in the world for pulling her out in 6th grade to homeschool. It's not much out there for the kid that doesn't fit in a box. I think each child is different and society has rules that really don't allow the majority of kids to blossom in something they are passionate about. I was that kid that suffered in class and all I wanted to do was be fashion designer. I became a fashion designer but most of my time in school I felt horrible and out of place. I wish him well in his journey.
I am a parent of 3 daughters and they all finished College. I thank God for that because in my opinion, not finishing high school could make your son feel inferior when around peers. At least he needs to have the confidence to have discussions with his lawyers and accountants. My opinion. Who agrees?❤
I don't think it's an issue. If he's in a rush to start living in the real world then let him.
I just turned 28 and dropped out of school at 17. No regrets at all. I spent 1 year without working and just studied the stock market obsessively. Never had an issue getting a job when I looked for one and been self employed since age 22 but get good job offers all the time.
(Note: I'm Australian not American)
Hi Russell, I would like to present a middle option that many people seem to know nothing about. You can take him out of school and unschool him. Unschooling is legal in all 50 states in the US. Contrary to what some people believe, unschooling doesn’t mean no education; it means providing an enriched environment where the children can learn about what they need and what interests them. Children learn best when they are learning things that interest them. There is no set curriculum, and many unschooling parents and children just go through their lives and seek additional resources as needed. For example, if a child wants to learn to read but is having issues, you would then find a program to help him read. In your case, with your son’s interests in music and entrepreneurship, you can easily find programs or even private tutors to help him grow in these areas. You, yourself, would be a great mentor to help him navigate and figure out the pieces he needs to get to where he wants to go. If you decide to unschool him, then you will write an unschooling transcript based on his daily activities and projects. I have some students that are unschooled in my K-12 enrichment program, and we look at everything they are doing and see how it can apply to their transcript and assign grades based on their effort and perseverance as well as the outcomes. Where possible, we have them develop a portfolio of their work and projects to show to others. For example, a child who is into making drawings would collect a portfolio of their work to show to potential programs, schools, or clients that are interested in hiring them. Once he has completed his “required” courses of credit, you can graduate him as a homeschool student, and he will have his high school diploma.
Covey "Ph.D": "Make a promise. Keep it." Finish. Discipline. Pride. Accomplishment. "I did that when it was hard." Like a Mission. Build Character, Self Image and Self Efficacy. Stick. Hang in there. Embrace the suck. Prove to yourself you can. Ask Goggins to talk to him LOL
I’m dealing with the same thing. We are discussing online school as an option. It is less demanding and it frees him up to start his business at 15
Online school does seem like a great option!
“Dropping out of school” with the intention of… this is not serving me or my purpose is actually brilliant.
We usually start thinking about our time, our number of days here on earth later in life.
I imagine your son has incredible drive and creativity. Making this decision shouldn’t even be called “dropping out.”
It’s just an alternative route to achieve his goals.
I have a few degrees and I am not a fan of our system.
Plus what a great part of his hero’s journey story it will be!❤
You generated generational wealth, your son knows that. He NEEDs to learn "discipline" and will not lose much when he finishes HS.
To start .... You and Colette are great Parents...first, by listening to your kids, and second, by being open-minded to alternative paths. I'd say, get him to finish what he started so he continues down the path and doesn't label himself as a quitter. Also GED is an alternative... but look at it like finishing with your class is the start to your life and even though hard, you did it! Then don't force him to go to college like most families do in America...then get him to dive deep into his craft/passion. With RB and CB as his parents, he'll do just fine as long as he has his purpose. He will find a way 😇
Thank you!
If it only depended on my decision, I would take them out of school and create a home study program focused on specific skills that will truly help in life, emphasizing becoming entrepreneurs. I would pitch the idea of focusing on marketing and building a brand that helps others. Of course, this would need to be with their own agreement and must be voluntary.
Yes I think it’s absolutely fine because you and your wife are good at adulting - You have your heads screwed on. You have raised a very intelligent son who has so much to share with the world. The most important things in life are outside of school. Do it!
High school is basic. Finish it. Then move on. Basics provide a foundation that can help going forward.
if he wants to drop out of school that is fine, BUT he needs to have a full weekly schedule consisting of whatever his dreams, hobbies, sports, work is and you need to hold him accountable to actually to do stuff. YOU as his father are his Guide just as you were the Marketing and business guide for us. If he Needs mentorship and skills spend the money on people that can help him with his dream instead of spending it on school.
But at the end of the day if he wants to drop out does not mean that he does not need have do anything, he needs to produce, work towards something in iterations and consistently and not just be lazy procrastinate and do nothing.
Meet with your son and make a nice weekly Planner on what the best week/day/month would look like and then commit to that and work from there.
hope i could help
One thing that school does is makes us finish something that we start and makes us disciplined doing something we don't necessarily like which is a skill that we know all entrepreneurs need
We have decided that it will be homeschool for us this time around. Unfortunately, schools are standardized, and humans are unique, and require a different approach for each...if you really want to tap into their true potential. The discussion here really is the difference between Academic learning and Scholastic learning methods, Scholastic being far more effective IMO - while Academic is the current standard. Scholastic is more immersive in the subject at hand, intending to deep learn rather than academically, which really is a method of repetition and the memorization of trivia without a true understanding of the how, why, and what is involved.
Very true. Thank you for sharing!
Hey Russel, I've 20y and I'm startin' one invest for me, on a faculty, and learn with teachers in and out of faculty
you're my mentors prefer, and I loved this teachings
Only you can answer that question! Dropping out would
limit his options and also as you said social life. I found college brilliant at the age of 18-21 for getting to know people and building life long friendships. It took a few courses to find the one i loved doing. But like you did not like the way it was taught . teaching’s completely irrelevant to what i could do practically.
However, Learning how to fend for mysef in the big bad world of living with people besides your family. Nothing can replace that education. Whatever he decides to do you know you have the means to help him get started. With you Russell there is no right/wrong answer! I know if i told
my dad he’d say ok but what are you going to do instead? my advise would be have as much fun as possible while learning and growing. Expand his horizons by getting him
educated in
other countries.. maybe? Education system in ireland is one of the best in the world. We are the nations of saints n scholars and artists.. just a suggestion! ps: love the secrets to success course.. Can’t get enough of it!
I am 17 years old and in 9th standard. I wanna pursue my career as a copywriter, I am having the same issues as your son. My father is very disappointed in me. It hurts me. But I am also struggling to manage study & hustle at the same time.
iam facing the same problem of your kids , i finished mbbs in best university , but iam very much interested in building funnels ,so i created webinar funnel in real estate and started running youtube ads......, and at the same time iam preparing for pg exams just for backup................,, iam facing a dual personality ,it is very tough to handle the 2 things ....
I pursued an online degree just after high school and tried multiple things, One of the best decisions ever 🔥
If I could go back to being that age, yes, I would have absolutely dropped out.
In your case as a father, I would create a 5-year plan with him. It will likely change but it will give him the clarity and direction he needs.
I’m 19 years old. Have a few thousand dollars saved. Have a part time job. Almost 0 friends. Currently failing all of my classes. And I’m lying to my parents about it.
I don’t know what I want in life and what I can do in life. Being a good student is really all I have to make my parents proud of me. And it’s been a total lie. My parents have done so much for me that I feel like I don’t deserve. They gave me a beat up car. Pay for my car insurance. Pay for my food. Give me a roof over my head. So much and I can’t even do college the one thing they want me to do.
I’ve been in community college for 2 years now trying to get an associates degree in Business but I’m no where close. I feel like I’ve lost 2 years of my life when I see all my old friends from high school only 2 more years away from starting professional careers. In relationships, traveling around the world. And I’m just here stuck in life.
I’ve been told time and time again that I’m just as capable as anyone else and that I can do anything I put my mind to and I 100% believe that this is possible. Almost every start of the semester I feel like it’s another chance to start again and change my life. That first week of school I’m 100% committed to school and get to all my classes on time. Finish all my assignments early. Get to work on time and everything. I’m perfect. But by the 3-4th week I’m pretty much done with school and stopped attending and only go to work for the 10-15 hours per week I get.
I guess I just keep telling myself that it’s ok if I miss 1 class and that I can go next week but then it just starts to keep stacking up until the point where I feel like I’ve missed too much of the semester I should drop the class.
They’re about to find out about my grades soon because of a meeting with my counselor and I’m terrified about what’s going to happen.
Several things come to mind, 1. Not all answers fit all people. 2. Your children have been Blessed to believe what's possible because of everything you and Colette stand for, all that you, Todd, your wives, and your team have created and accomplished, Blessed for all the everyday people and "famous" people they have been exposed to and learned from, as well as the places they've experienced. 3. Ask your son if he is running toward something or away from something, you'll see his heart further, on this matter. 4. Perhaps a compromise of, continue in school, bring on an awesome teacher to get "us" to the completion of HS, WHILE supporting him beginning his life now, as were his words to you, with assisting/ supporting what he is excited to move onto, doing part of that now along with completing senior year. 5. As you and Tony Robbins are friends ask him to meet with your son to assist your son in his process, as to what set of decisions and steps make the most sense for your son. And first, as you know, ask God❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for this!
@@russellbrunson my pleasure! God Bless you all❤️🙏
Explain to him he needs to finish what he starts. In life there will be plenty of things he may start and not finish because "he doesn't see the value" then, but if he could just stick it out a little bit longer his "breakthrough" will happen. Vince lombardi said Winners never quit, quitter's never win" Don't stop 3 feet from gold in life
I can certainly relate to this!!! Dystopian and traumatic are the perfect words to describe my experience in high school. I lived the horror of sitting in class after class, day after day, with no hope of ever having anything positive happen. The classes were wholly irrelevant to real life and were run by angry, hateful people who had no business teaching. The teachers at my high school s**thole tended to treat students more like inmates than students. Trust me, no student wants to succeed in a supposed learning environment when the teachers do nothing but yell at you and always focus on what you do wrong, instead of trying to help a student learn and find what he's good at. On top of that, I had honor student, straight A parents (and my mom was the salutatorian of her class) who couldn't understand for the life of them why I hated school as much as I did, when they actually enjoyed school. The typical day in high school for me was equal parts hostility, verbal abuse, and mental cruelty. I finally reached the point of no return and dropped out. But years later, I really enjoyed my time in college and law school and did well there...NO THANKS TO HIGH SCHOOL!!! Best of all, my parents saw me realize academic success and vindication precisely because I had fun in college, grad school, and law school. If I were in your situation, I'd explain the pros and cons of both arguments and let him make his own call. I get the sense that your son realizes that high school is worthless to him (as it was for me).
My wife and i have come to the conclusion that our kids will be homeschool and let them decide what way they want to go!! We both realize that we really didn't learn much usefull stuff in high school, the best teacher is actually doing the thing. Right now i do maintenance when i started 18 years ago i have never used a power tool. I learn on the job.
Now i will say this things might change in the future when my kiddo is 18 she is only 4 but for your kid i will encourage him to get that paper because in the world we live in UNFORTUNATELY one requirement IS to have a High School diploma and i understand that he has the tools to become a top entrepreneur but it wouldn't be a bad idea to have that on his pocket because in reality we don't know how our life and circunstances are going to shape our future hope that helps Russell!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 and kuddos to him for talking to you about instead of just going through the motions....
Thank you for sharing your perspective! Great insights
@@russellbrunson you are welcome!! Hope to hear the follow up to this!!
Why would you even ask this? If he's anything like you, it's probably even more important.
I took all the years in school that I could, even though I knew I was born an entrepreneur, and these are my thoughts.
Going through school definitely delayed my start as an entrepreneur.
I didn't have many in my network who were entrepreneurs, so being among people focused on jobs took me further away from entrepreneurship.
Luckily, because I had a burning desire for entrepreneurship, I found it again years after I finally finished school.
Looking back, would I have been better off dropping out of school?
I honestly think so, yes!
I believe my time in school didn't teach me many practical skills I use today, but it did contribute to my personal development.
However, if I had dropped out and followed my passion in entrepreneurship, I would have developed personally even more.
I struggled with English and other classes throughout school. School didn't teach me how to read and speak English well; entrepreneurship did. Today, I have an American partner, and we create social media content and videos in English and I have won a Two Comma Club Award.
I think I would have had a faster kickstart on my entrepreneurial journey had I dropped out of school. I believe I would have found success as a businessman many years earlier because I had fewer limiting beliefs to change from my time in school.
If your son drops out of school, he will miss out on the personal development learned in school. However, he will develop himself personally even more when he doesn't have the school system around him and has to figure it out by himself.
For me, I would have been better off not spending as many years in school 😊
What is his mastery now?
I’m about ready to homeschool my kids.
I'm in the same spot as him with the same arguments. But to be honest I'm too scared to drop out of high school. I'm giving my exams next week. Decided not to go to college.
I remember listening to one of your podcast episodes several years ago when Nick Santonastasso was talking with your kids and this subject came up and he was talking with them about if school is free why not take advantage of it?
Personally I LOVE Nick, but think that it was a missed opportunity. An opportunity to become a "business partner" with your son. An opportunity for a better relationship with him. An opportunity for him to be heard and understood!
THERE IS NO NEED TO DIG A HOLE WITH A SPOON WHEN A SHOVEL OR AN EXCAVATOR IS AN OPTION! Can you imagine every day going to "school" to dig holes with a spoon KNOWING there are shovels and excavators you could be using? (My background is building beautiful natural looking Koi ponds and waterfalls, so always "hole digging metaphors", lol!)
Why jeopardize your relationship with him for something you KNOW is faulty?
If school is "so important" and they are FORCED when they don't want to go and see all of the "holes", and ESPECIALLY in your case with him KNOWING your school background, then the meaning they get is "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME" AKA "you don't care!"
For WHAT!!!!???? Pythagorean Theorems, Haikus, beakers and "The war of 1812"????
Instead 10X that relationship and tell him to, "GO CLEAN OUT THAT LOCKER MONDAY!!!!"
We just went through this with our son
Time is our most valuable resource.
When does his time become his own?
Who's it for...spending more time completing high school?
If the 'man' feels compelled to follow his instincts and it doesn't harm anyone...dude can always get a G.E.D.
Always.
Set's a precedence I guess but it's pretty clear the current system isn't churning out entrepreneurial magnates or people of positive impact.
Who knows...maybe it's in what Jim Rohn said:
"Walk away from the 97%...don't go where they go, don't do what they do, don't talk like they talk, develop you a whole new language, be part of the few.
...don't use their method of drift and neglect...
...won't even spend the time to refine their philosophy for a better life
...Take charge of your own life."
So I guess it returns to...when does he own his life?
Absolutely You should let him Drop out. And Based on your experience you already have the answer in your gut. You know that there is a opposing force that has brilliantly put together systems that are counterproductive to our Godly design which is becoming fruitful with the seed already inside. You my friend have done this, so he's trying to imitate you. Let him. Proud of you as you are and inspiration. 👊
As a man in my late 50s, I believe that being well-rounded means little if you don't excel in one or two specific things. I also believe that the education system has let our young people down to a large degree. Let your son leave school if he has some idea of where his talents lie and what he really wants to do.