Jazz's Brother Explains Why He's Okay Dating A Trans Woman Pre Bottom Surgery | I Am Jazz
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2022
- Jazz opens up about her expectations and hopes for Harvard, while her brother tries to have a deeper conversation with his friends about trans issues.
From season 7 episode 9.
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He is forcing himself to accept this. It’s ridiculous. This family is so dysfunctional but in complete denial about it.
I don't think so, he's just questioning of his attraction includes trans women or not, he shouldn't feel forced to but it's good he's doing some introspection to see if he could date a trans woman, either way hes still straight unlike what other people would say
@@spartan1347981 he is not attracted to a woman with a penis. Come on He doesn’t want to suck one. Get real. There is no reason for him to question himself about this.
Pondering woman penis = peak straightness
Sander called Jazz a he, so he does view it as gay!
@barbourbih did he break it off with hope? That's not mentioned anywhere in the video, and if he did how do you know why he broke it off, did he say the reason himself? It wouldn't look bad lmao, trans people actually understand people have preferences, and if he decided he didn't want to date hope because he wasn't ok with the set of genitals she had thats fine. It doesn't mean she isn't a woman, or if other men date trans women who don't have the surgery that they aren't straight. He can still view hope as a woman even if he doesn't date her lol.
Omg I will NEVER let anyone pressure me into liking something I don't. It's almost like he feels like he has to be accepting and willing to date trans people.
He does imagine if he didn't lmao
It lowkey feels like some form of abuse I'm sorry
@@AprilShowersz it's manipulative
idc, no straight man is messing with no trans nothing...
@@raging_gamer95 its bullying
Just because your sibling is trans does not mean you have to date trans people lmfao
Exactly, he's such an attention seeker.
For real..
It's clearly a storyline
This guy and family are all 🤡
I think he just genuinely likes any human being he’s attracted to . Maybe you should stop judging like your god .
I'm bi and I'll never understand why these ppl make their sexual orientation their whole personality. Or even Sander.. he seems like he's just obsessed with the lgbt community and it's odd
cuz the political rhetoric has told them theyre special
He’s probably got peer pressure because of family, TV, politics etc plenty of ts admirers he doesn’t need to worry those girls will find someone 😜
Because the community is literally like a cult. It’s either with us or die. Very invasive
Sander knows it will get him more tv time. He’s just like his mom.
Ele quer fama baby kkkkk
Genital preference is okay. And nobody better be calling transphobia on it in the comments.
Genital preference is a completely valid reason not to date a trans women. Its not about them being trans, its about the genitals they are attracted to.
😊
But isn’t that 100% why we don’t date trans, Because of their sex?
@@billbrowning50 Not dating them specifically because they are trans and not dating them because of genital preference are two different things. Would you date a trans person who had bottom surgery?
You really felt the need to comment that like if anyone cares
@@Lumalee i for sure wouldnt.
Sander is not attracted to trans women or male genitalia. What does "I will find a way to get physical if that woman was to be my life partner" even mean? If you date someone you don't need to "find a way" to like her. Either you like the person or you don't.
All of this is just for the show and an attempt to influence other young dudes who wouldn't date trans people.
The activists don't care, he's a bigot if he won't sleep with 'her'. Look up The Cotton Ceiling for an example of this coercion.
yep
You got it. There’s a whole agenda here.
Actually this show is more about promotion transgenderism than about jaz
Yes. He's not gay or even confused. Straight gay for pay/ agenda. It's really evil what He's doing actually
This is sickening. He's not interested in male genitals and made that clear, but still thinks he has an obligation to date "trans women."
It’s not an obligation.. it’s what he likes
@@TheAayize No straight man is attracted to so-called "trans women." Sorry to break it to you.
@@TheAayize he's not sexually attracted to them. so no, it isnt what he likes.
Cry about it
Yeah. Which is why he is dating no one.
It seems whenever there are discussions about other peoples perspectives on Trans relationships, everyone else is ignorant or phobic. Isn’t it possible that we have our own likes and dislikes?
thank you. The world does not revolve around them. Media (social and tv) has them fooled into thinking everyone is hip to what they have going on but that isn't true. Most people aren't interested. And when these do come up its a passing kind of thing. Why expect people to understand something that is so low in the human population? Just ask for respect and that is it. Most humans don't know what its like to "feel" and "think" they way they do so of course we won't "get it." Not supposed to.
People cannot change sex.
uneducated is ok it's fixable
people have to learn somehow
@@deneedalton4151 calling people you want on your side, ignorant and phobic, may not be the right approach
Dude if you don't like meat sticks you don't have to force yourself to eat it! Yikes!
Yeah im LGBTQ. Genital preference is ok
@@Lumalee no it's not. Is racist
@@Benyikoko genitals have nothing to do with race, so uh no its not?
@@Lumalee You guys are fcking weird.n
glad you notice how forcing on himself he is doing. Its so try hard and pathetic. Sanders needs to stop. As long as Sanders still cares for Jazz then he is good. Doesn't need to go out with some man or whatever to "prove" his loyalty or allyship with them. Let them go on. Its so pushy.
I lost 150 pounds. You can't jump into a strict diet. I still ate crap food for the first few months, just ate less of it. 40 pounds flew off. She's makes changes that aren't sustainable. Weight loss doesn't have to be this hard. Just walking daily is fine.
Yeah exactly. They’re all making it way harder for her than it needs to be
Maybe she is taking medication?
Walking is so underrated!!!
She needs to get on medication. She has chronic obesity and diet and exercise alone fail in the long term over 80% of the time when you struggle with chronic obesity. Her best bet is medication along with lifestyle changes
So much naval gazing... These people need a purpose in their lives that goes beyond LGBTQ+ activism.
His interest in trans women is a little …. Suspect. Doesn’t seem genuine but more For tv 📺
Maybe because he's straight and a trans woman is a biological male.
He’s a chaser for sure
Right? He’s just like his mom. Attention seeking. Your child’s transition does not need to be publicly broadcast.
@@ataylor702 Also maybe your child does not need to transition...
Of course. How else would they have a show without drama?
I’m flabbergasted! Have a physical attraction without being into their genitalia!?! Intimacy is part of a relationship. I know I couldn’t be with someone if they didn’t have something I wasn’t attracted to. My mind is just blown away by how this family is.
I find that curious too! I mean I could see living with someone as a roommate, because we had a lot in common and were great friends. I know in arranged marriage, people marry partners they aren't in love with and aren't physically attracted to, and they often work well. But that's usually because they have children and build their relationship around taking care of the children. To have a romantic relationship with someone whose genitalia doesn't interest you, is really just like going out or marrying someone you've had in the friend zone. You know, " Well, I don't really feel anything for him in a romantic way, but he's such a nice guy,!" So you talk yourself into it; platonic friends who consider themselves dating. I don't know. I don't get it. If I was going to consider living with or having a " romantic relationship " with someone I wasn't sexually attracted to, they would have to be my best friend and we'd live like brother and sister. I don't see it working any other way.
You do know that’s a real thing and it’s ok. Cause me personally I am asexual (meaning I have no sexual attraction to people/sex repulsed) so I’m not big on intimacy and stuff. I’d def date a trans man whether they had surgery or not cause I’m not interested in having sex with someone. WE EXIST. Relationships don’t just revolve around sex you bigot
@@lsmith7461 You need to relax. She is not being a bigot and she never said asexuals didn't exist. But for the ones who enjoy sex, it's a great form of bonding with our romantic partner. We become attached in a special way.
And intimacy is discovered between two people. Jazz lost his male genitalia but is attracted to women. I don't see why his family can't see that this is all such a contradiction and an epic failure.
@@lsmith7461so why did Jazz need to get his sex organs amputated?🙊🥓
Sander is just so self absorbed and loves the camera that he doesn’t care how he gets the attention, he’s willing to do whatever it takes. Pretending to being attracted to trans people and pretending to be best friends with then
And gets him attention from mom, I'm sure. And his name is Zander.
There's something really creepy about Sander. His enthusiasm about LGBTQ issues and being a part of this subculture comes across as very fake. It seems like he doesn't fit in with any normal straight peers his age. Probably one of the most awkward episodes is when he is on a date and roller skating with that black trans 'lady' (Hope) and 'she' tells him that 'she' hasn't had bottom surgery. The look on his face was priceless. On the one hand, he wants to play himself off as tolerant and accepting of LGBTQ people but in his mind he is still straight and knows he doesn't want that trans person's pp. He has 2 conflicting thoughts in his head and he sorta has a blank stare on his face of confusion. It's really interesting to watch.
He can still be attracted to her but not want to follow through cause of genital preference. He needs to realize that doesn't make him transphobic. But other people also need to realise a man being attracted to a trans woman, whether or not they have had bottom surgery, that They're still considered straight
it really is. everytime he talks it’s about his “ allyship” no original thoughts
Why the quotes though? She is a trans woman.
@@mags2847 Trans = pretending to be
@@thomasorchard no, trans means her gender is different from her birth sex, sex and gender are different, trans women are women
1000 bucks jazz comes out in next 10 years regretting transitioning
Hoping Jazz doesnt harm himself
I think he does already 😢
Jazz's friend is very perceptive and loving to her. He told her the truth and is seeing her in a way that maybe she doesn't see herself.
All of these scenes seem so forced and ALMOST awkward. PROBABLY the producer's pushing the narrative.
Sander ain't going to have too many friends after this because you can't just shove lgbtq down people's throats and force them to be like it's all good. You feel like they're being ganged up on
What woman wants to be with a dude who likes cross dressing dudes?
@@stevensgarage6451 that too. Women should want men not some whimpy version of a guy. Might as well date a really woman of you want someone to share clothes with.
Raymond seems like such a great friend. If I wasn't so anti social, I'd love to have a friend like him lol
Her or even it but not him, people need to stop living a lie.
He's not a good friend. He's not telling the truth.
@@chaddicusmaximusdestroyero8259 I totally agree with you, I refuse to play into other peoples fantasy, if that’s being transphobic, so be it. It doesn’t mean I don’t like the person.
Jazz doesnt come across as a "cerebral" person. Very far from it actually. She comes off as a very intellectually average person but got "straight As" because of the special online school she went to instead of the standard schools. These online schools have lower standard of grading system if compared to traditional public school system. Example an A in online school = C or D in standard public or private school.
Oh gosh finally someone else said what I was thinking.
Yup! Preferential treatment!
Plus all universities love this perverted sexual stuff and courted him
ah ah ah, I was wondering how someone who seems so mediocre and lacking in sporting accomplishments could get in to Harvard
Spoiler alert: she drops out of Harvard. Honestly, the odds would be against her at a state school.
The mother really messed those kids up.
Realize that this family, mostly the mother, started all this when he was 2. All because he wanted to be pretty and play with " girl toys". My son did the same things but we let him be him and he is a well adjusted heterosexual man. This was abuse.
Absolutely that’s a man!!!😢
Absolutely
@@anzajamaa5001 that’s true and people just don’t see it I’m calling him what tf he is A MAN
It's actually terrifying because if my brother and I grew up in *these* times we both would have been "diagnosed" as transgender and neither of us are 💀
I could never be friends with ppl like this. Try policing my language and I'll double down. Foh.
Jazz and his family need help. They created a business out of being “Trans”. He doesn’t have to date trans to be accepting of people nor is anyone asking Jazz to be a role model. Everything they do and talk about is for their own personal gain or business. Pretty soon it’s going to be normal for Sanders to want to date Jazz!
I Agree 👍🏼 However, I feel the problem goes beyond physical from early on; mother's deep seated issues is the key 🔑 that opened that door using a delicate confused child causing a chain reaction throughout what could have been a healthy family.
Thank God for parents like A Jolie; one thing she didn't do was alter or force her daughter, Shiloh to be something she was not borned to be; look at her now, such a lovely young woman.
I get ANGRY when PEOPLE attempt to PUSH THEIR BELIEFS on others; we are in our natural bodies for a purpose. Anyone who thinks they know more than their Creator, end up in secret turmoil. Just because someone smiles, does not mean they are at peace. Just because someone says they are happy; doesn't mean they don't cry in turmoil, when alone in the dark. What one experiences all falls down to one's CHOICES; it has nothing to do with the Almighty who designed them in the womb. Imo
That mom is the real mental one.She’s tells everyone what to do.And the dad is spineless to let her do it.
Michael is his name right?
That family sure has screwed up their kids. It is so sad. Sander is not happy being so confused and poor Jazz. She has no happy future after being mutilated.
Sanders and Ari don't really believe the whole gender ideology. Them playing pretend is hurting a lot of kids. I believe it is the moms fault, but they are adults and need to quit spreading the delusion.
The other brother Griffen is in law school, and the only sister is getting a psychology Ph.D.--I hope those two aren't going into trans law and trans-affirming psych.
Tennis dude gave her the best advice of anyone in the series
1:45 "When I date a trans woman, I'm gonna be proud of it." How many straight men have said that?
0. Preferences are based on social constructs and sexuality should be based on biological sex.
@@gamerkey8278 That's an interesting perspective. Also, I wonder how many people are sexually attracted to a post op transgender woman like Jazz? I've seen post op pictures online and absolutely none of the pictures are desirable, especially when compared to actual biological women. It seems like a sad situation for post op trans women. The post op pictures of trans men with surgically reconstructed parts attached are equally horrifying as well. I still think it's important to treat transgenders with dignity and kindness, though.
None because straight men don't date trans women.
@@gamerkey8278 sexuality is based on gender aswell, a straight man dating a trans woman, whether or not she's had surgery, is still straight
@@spartan1347981 Yeah that's how it is according to the lgbt community but that's not how it should be. Gender is just a made up label.
Their pushing for this to be the norm but it will never be.
Trans people have been around throughout history, ofc theyre not the norm they make up 0.5% of the world's population, but there's a difference between being the norm and being normalized in a way to destigmatize and reduce hateful comments.
You’re right…because this is NOT normal! Period, no matter how much people try and normalize it, it NEVER will be! Ever!
Jazz might do better AWAY from her parents and siblings. This friend she’s playing tennis with is such a good support.
Her friend who's playing tennis with her is a great friend with good advice and support. I'm glad she has Raymond
I was hoping he was going to tell Sanders about he is with Jazz but not this episode, i guess.
still a man, and never will be a woman, lol
Yes, he seems sane. ALONE in this clip.
He's more mature than Jazz's parents!
Same thing happened to me. I flew through high school gifted and talented without studying ever. same with 1st year university in a double degree and then into the second year I missed a few classes due to my mental health, (I was in hospital).. and I flunked BADLY. I understand where she is coming from learning the methods (referencing, writing protocol, study routine) is paramount for academic success. I wish her the best in academic success.
Hope you pulled through. I’m trying to balance being and A+ student and suffering with anxiety, depression, stress and an eating disorder… it is so hard.
I wish you the best too! 🥰❤
@@damnhellno I'm going through major anxiety right now due to a medication change for anxiety. It's brutal and I cry and can't stop it. I can't wait for the new meds to kick in!
@@damnhellno maybe you're just not meant for it, as you have it layed out?
You are literally repeating my story only difference is that my mental breakdown happened during my third year, on my second I just lost motivation and almost lost my scholarship.
Jazz should've just been a gay man. DAmn this tv show, damn his parents, and damn this culture.
So offensive to those of us who WORKED to get into Harvard. I guarantee that if she hadn’t transitioned or had a show, she NEVER would have gotten in. I don’t know what admissions were thinking.
admissions were thinking they really love there Ferrari and the beach house in malibu and shopping at gucci.
Some people don't have to work to get astonishing numbers. Maybe....shes JUST that intelligent?
Your message is offensive.
Some people don’t have to study as hard and still get amazing grades, being jealous isn’t going to get you anywhere in life.
@@vanessavallette4809 she’s not.
everybody’s attention is on jazz but sander and his issues are hiding under the radar
People who believe this is genuine are borderline delusional.
Ugh.
I wish they would just let Sander be straight. Whyyyy are they bullying him into being gay?!
No one is bullying him or making him do something he doesn’t want to do
Like the other comment says, he's not being forced to do anything he doesn't want to do, also, a guy dating a trans woman doesn't make him gay, she's still straight
@@NovellaDeParmesano actually he straight. Trans women are women, a dude dating a trans woman is straight
Gay? Screw off bigot.
@@spartan1347981 Yes it does make him gay.
i cant help but feel he is doing this dating a trans woman out of brotherly love......I feel he needs to understand attraction by its very nature is discriminatory and that is ok
He's probably also just figuring out if his attraction includes trans women aswell, even if it does he's still straight, but it's just something he needs to figure out
@@spartan1347981 A trans woman is a man man man man man.
@@K_F_P a trans woman is a woman woman woman woman woman, get outta here you hack
@@spartan1347981 that's debatable buddy. I understand developing feelings but once he sees that his "woman" partner has a *penis*, if he's still dtf then he's bi
@@spartan1347981 I swear I've seen you say "IF A STRAIGHT MAN IS ATTRACTED TO TRANS WOMEN HES STILL STRAIGHT" a lot in these comments and it's just not true.
Y'all may have convinced yourselves and your community that it is in order to make you feel better about yourselves but it's not true lmfao
All the kids in this family seem developmentally delayed. I understand why Jazz is because of those damn puberty blockers she was forced to take but I wonder why her brother is.
The other two seem normal.
This whole family is so messed up
I never would have known Jazz was trans if I just met her and didn't know of her show and story. I hope she is able to do well in her future.
All love. FYI if you don’t know not all trans people feel like they have to ‘pass’.
She looks like an overweight boy with long hair.
Well yeah, his healthy development came to a screeching halt before a critical stage. And just look at all the good it did him.
Yeah, it's because she's been on puberty blockers since she was a child, so she never went through male puberty. She blocked her testosterone and took estrogen, so she basically developed as a girl as much as her little body allowed her to.
lol you are delusional
This family is so screwed up . He’s “open minded” so he can help his messed up sister who was messed up from the mother. They really believe this is OK . If you’re gay then fine but changing your body surgically is so drastic which turns into mental health issues. I see psychiatrists lined up for this mess.
Havard needs to meet a trans qouta. We know jazz aint that bright
Lmao I bet u can’t even make it at Harvard.
Put that anger into studying and maybe you can get in there too mr bitter
Jeron should be in Ukraine
@@Daniella407 depends on what i identity as obviously
This family is one of the worse i have ever seen
the largest part of a relationship is sexual to be able tho show you true feelings , and this between a bio man and women, unless your gay. so if sanders wants to sleep with a trans wome who didnt have bottom surgery and fins him attractive sanders is then gay. omg how these parents screwed up these kids
Erm if you're a guy sleeping with a trans woman even after surgery, it's still gay because they're still a MAN and always will be.
absolutely child abuse. these kids should have been taken away by CPS.
No, trans women are women, regardless if they've had bottom surgery or not, so still liking a trans girl even if she hasn't gotten SRS means he's still straight, not gay.
Sex shouldn’t be the largest part of a relationship omg
@@crystajewelz1069 Sexual orientation is based on biological sex though even if nobody is having sex.
It’s one thing to be open to dating a trans woman and a whole diff thing to seek out a trans woman. In this case I feel like he’s trying to get himself to date a trans woman to be part of the family thing. I’m a gay man that has no attraction to vaginas but I am not totally against dating a trans man as long as there’s no expectations. That doesn’t mean I should only seek out trans people it’s just that I won’t refuse their advances. In this case you can tell there’s a part of him that doesn’t actually want that kinda relationship but is pushing himself
I don’t even watch this show but everyone needs a friend like her tennis patna’ ! 🙌🙌
He’s a clean and wholesome mindset … she is putting allot of pressure on herself :( and sadly it’s due to the thought of trying to do it for EVERYONE else! Vs. doing it for HERSELF first! You got take care of you! Before u can truly and successfully take care of anyone else! Especially , viewers and those very harsh /judgmental social media comments! Hopefully she will stop filming! Take a break! And breathe! Absorb and accept her new beginnings and find a healthy balance without the pressure of doing it for OTHERS, with a camera crew and producers input!
The money that comes with filming is NOT more important than her mental health! I wish the parents would’ve stopped filming earlier on to give her a chance to mature and grow/mature more… but I guess the $$ was more of a priority sadly.. i always pray, she doesn’t contemplate suicide from all the pressure and feeling like she’s letting her family down (which she has mentions many many times on air)
the best thing you can do for yourself is learn to love who you are internally and then be true too that.
Right? It's why im in awe of trans people cause they still are true to themselves when so much of the world are against them, it's such a brave thing to do and I respect them for it
@@spartan1347981 Wait until you meet an agp. You will think differently🤣
@@highlyunderstated9908 no, cause an agp isn't a trans person, they're different things
@@spartan1347981 How can you prove who is a real trans and a fake trans? Trans Just means feeling like you are the opposite gender of what you actually are. Agps most certainly believe and feel like they are women. They are Trans by the Trans community definition. And also according to the trans community there is no one Trans experience so if someone identifies as a Trans identity they are trans just by saying they are.
@@highlyunderstated9908 there's no fake trans, some agp do transition due to gender dysphoria brought on by being agp, some just crossdress. So there is a little overlap but agp's aren't necessarily transgender.
Raymond explained jazz’s situation perfectly jazz has been pressured her whole life by the media and her families expectations of her I don’t think she was forced into being trans but I do think she was forced in being a public figure and out there and a public figure and I think she just needs a break from reality tv and social media so she can move on from all of that and develop her own personality if that makes sense
@Thatb 1717 YES!!!!!! YES TO ALL THIS! I truly think she needs a break from being in the public eye. She is under way too much pressure. She has had a big impact already and should be proud. Now is the time for her to really focus on herself.
Their parents should be ashamed look at what you raised💀 this what happen when u let your kids make their own decisions based of social media 🤣🤣
These kids didn't make their own decision. Their mother is a narcissist who announced that her son is trans when he was like 3 or 5. Now that Jazz is no longer poster child for trans awesomeness, there is another son's chance to please mommy.
Are you just watching to shame then?
Crazy, iresponsabile parents destroy their children
That should be the title of this show.
Mind your business. At least they could afford to raise kids. Some people have kids and raise them in poverty. How sickening
@@allthingscandles4053 You have no idea what you talking about, do you? 😂🤡
@@cristiant9437 they didn’t destroy their children just saying. Maybe educate yourself
Nice to know more and more people realize how disfuncional this family really is
Harvard just wanted the curiosity to attend their school it is like collecting oddities
What does it say about the parents, if the kids all have intense insecurities and live their lives worried about what others think about them. I mean, seriously, they all going to self destruct.
He called her a role model😆this show is a joke
Okay so considering my identity, I’ll be considered heterophobic, homophobic, transphobic?
Just because you aren’t into something, doesn’t mean you don’t respect and support it . Seriously this guy needs to be told that.
Not going to happen in that family. Its pretty obvious to everyone but him that he is "taking a break from dating" because he is being pushed into dating a trans woman by the parents and their therapist relatives.
Sander is just figuring out if his attraction also encompasses trans women too. There's nothing inherently wrong about the intraspection of oneself
@@martineshamzin7535 no one's pushing him to do anything, though he may feel pressured, but he just needs to figure out of his attraction includes trans women or not
@@spartan1347981 No one is pushing him to do anything, although he feels pressured? You think maybe he is imagining this pressure? Because I can tell that he is NOT attracted to trans women just by hearing him talk. Its really funny how he thinks that other people would see using the narrative approved terminology as being the "educated" way to speak about things. While so many people would just rather seem sane. It really just shows how sheltered he is. Besides, its hard to know what terms really work. The truth is, the trans community want to be seen as biological women. So they will never really approve of a term that'd describes them, you know what I mean? It never really will satisfy them, no matter what.
@@martineshamzin7535 trans women want to be seen as women, because they are. That's their gender. It doesn't matter what's in their pants. Ofc dating is different but people who are attracted to women can be attracted to trans women too. He's just figuring it out. It's completely sane to question ones attraction and to include trans people in that attraction. We have 2 terms that describe trans women just fine: they're trans women, or just: women
Something deep and not well took place in that home.
When he dates a trans woman? Is this a story line or what
The brother wants tv time also.. I know when my sis was sick, my mom would not even hug my younger sister an I good night . Only my sick sister Got hugs in my house
Yes I remember that. Only my sister did as well . And it hurt my younger sister more, my mom just blocked us out
It's totally fine to only date within your orientation
Yeah, and it's totally fine if that orientation includes trans people too lol
i love it, dude is getting payed, dont knock someones hustle, makes for great content and gives him an incredible story.
He is definitely anxious about it, he is salivating a lot during that last clip which indicates it. If I was in his shoes I would feel like I had no choice neither, the mechanics of that family means that the gravity is so strong. You either have a very strong personality and are very vocal about your feelings, or it will be very hard to be heard when the focus is mostly on one child. It is the case in most families where one child is the most famous one and gets all the attention, regardless of the gender issues, that just adds a whole other set of complications...
“Noah has become a really close friend of mine” 😂 what? After knowing him for 5 minutes and because the producers told him to
If this is how she intends to lose weight she’s ruined. She’s barely even moving let alone exercising. Too much tal not enough exercise. For comparison when I exercise I can’t even speak. You need to push
I think Sanders has always been jealous of all the attention Jazz gets so he's getting attention now
Or maybe hes just developed his understanding of his own feelings and had the opportunity to due to who his family is, and after some introspection he's found he can be trans inclusive in his attraction
Bruh her brother is one of the chillest dudes I have seen
The gurls have been said this since the 90s, “they get that surgery and it makes me go crazy and gain a whole bunch of weight” you should only do it when ur like 40
"She's working on herself".....does that mean getting Sander ready...a.k.a.....changing out the basement tools?
How can you have a safe conversation when you’re labelled a transphobe at the slightest disagreement about trans issue?
Ofc you can have a conversation, but it depends on what you're disagreeing with, and why you're disagreeing with it. For example, debating the existence and rights of trans people is ridiculous, wanting to learn more about trans and their issues is good, thinking trans people shouldn't be a thing and disagreeing with them getting hrt and healthcare is eradication. Depending on the context and situation it'll be treated differently. I'm open to debate you of you have any questions or want to know more about stuff
@@spartan1347981 you’re already placing limitations on what topics are up for discussions. Anything that challenges your fundamentals on trans ideology is seen as “ridiculous”. You’re not gonna win over anyone if you’re only expecting them to come with an open mind and not bring an open mind yourself. Open mind means willing to discuss without any personal attacks.
@@adamtki I'm open minded, but trans people's existence isn't up for discussion, you cannot have a conversation about if they are or not valid, or not what they say they are, or shouldn't be allowed to transition. This is topics long put to bed. You wouldn't discuss the existence of gay people would you? Them living their life isn't an ideology, a group of people existing and recognizing that existence isn't ideology
@@spartan1347981 what if someone said “I’m open minded, but marrying a trans person is not up for discussion”. Are they really open minded?
@@adamtki they don't need to marry anyone they don't want to?
So did the mother convinced the son to be homosexual? If his beliefs were different before somebody talk to him into it, could be done under pressure of puppet master.. It’s not a phobia if you don’t date a trans as long as you’re respectful
2:20 Jazz's brother virtue signaling hard.
I feel bad for the family, especially the brother who is now going to get goaded into dating a "trans woman" - very sad
He's not getting goaded into doing anything, hes straight, so dating a woman, even if she's trans, doesn't change his sexuality. Now if he doesn't want to cause she hasn't had SRS and has genital preference that's fine ofc, but he's not not dating her just cause she used to be a guy.
@@spartan1347981 He's obviously bisexual if he is okay with dating a trans a woman, especially a pre-op trans woman.
@@highlyunderstated9908 nope! If he's ok dating a trans woman, regardless if she's pre opp or not, she's still a woman, so he's still straight, cause he's a man attracted to a woman
he's been goaded for some time now and it is really hard to watch. He's trying so hard to fit in or whatever with them, but at the same time the hardness comes from a lack, like he doesn't feel he is cool enough or something w/o it. It isn't really genuine.
@@spartan1347981 Sorry but self identification doesn’t trump reality. No straight man would want to have a romantic sexual relationship with a trans woman especially a pre-op one. SEXuality has do with sex(male female), not gender Identity.
I like what Noah said when people sometimes don’t mean to offend, they just don’t know and people shoot them down calling them bigots or other stuff
Poor guy has to live his life through jazz instead of being himself. Must suck
This whole family is so screwed up
I wish Jazz didn’t have so much pressure on her. She really needs a break.
The poor brother. He isnt even dating women because he is so upset that he isnt attracted to transpeople.
I can’t see Jazz ever moving on, there are too many insecurities and momma dearest always keeping tabs, I feel sorry for him, he has no feelings, the surgery and blockers have neutered him…
Homies getting straight groomed, he gonna have his own show soon
He’s not getting “groomed” I hate when people use that term. He just realizes that people are PEOPLE and it doesn’t matter what body parts they have.
@1:45 Lmao 😂😂😂😂 THESE PEOPLE ARE CRACKED!!
Just a dude coming to terms with his attraction including trans women who are non-op. I think it's good in him to take that step
C'mon sander you are just there for the clout
I'm seeing the raw comments before the great deleting that always happens. Yo tlc is very sys when a video had tens of thousands of views over the course of a week an 16 comments.
Personally I think Jazz is influenced on her feelings based on what others say to her. Not on every topic. Some topics she’s very opinionated about. But I’ve noticed that she’s influenced easily if it’s not a topic she’s made her mind up on yet.
Jazz is caught up in nothing but trans, he has not matured and doesn’t seem capable of much at all…very sad…
Like the "having a girl brain and a boy body" thing. As if the brain wasn't part of one's body.
This is grooming, plain and simple. Please protect yourselves and especially your children and those you love. The devil is on a rampage to get as many souls as possible.
So if your accepted to Harvard you can choose when you start? Serious question. Or any college?
Once you’re accepted you are apart of the system and can decide when to leave, come back, start, and end
You don’t have to give a reason but there’s also things like academic probation which is if you’re failing or something happens in your life to get in the way of classes, you can take a break and decide when to lift that break
@@DakotaDreamers oh okay thanks
As far.as I know if you're accepted to a college you can delay attending for a year or possibly more.
@@amandabanks7181 That's not true at all, in most cases, if you don't enroll in a year you must reapply and the second round of applications can be more scrutinous because you didn't enroll the first time = ie: why should we accept them when they flaked the first time, they better write a good addendum explaining why
I just think that he is either bisexual or maybe just gay and he doesn't realize it until now I'm accepting who he is or maybe he knew all along or maybe he knows this and this is his way of coming out slowly but surely because he's got to be the type of person where maybe he doesn't consider himself anything like I forget what you call it pansexual he likes seems to have a soul connection with people and is okay with that and I think it's beautiful
If a man is attracted to a trans woman he's still straight, I think sander is still trying to figure out if he's attracted to trans women or not, and is worried what his sister might think of him
@@spartan1347981 stop 😭💀
You're *everywhere* saying the exact same thing. Literally no one agrees with you, only the fragile trans women who hate their genitalia
Same thing I was thinking …. He is gay
That tennis dude gives amazing advice
The way he speaks about her is like a real friend. Understanding, compassionate, in her corner. I hope she has more people around like him, or meets them soon. Raymond isn lovely
People need to learn to be offended, its life. If you have strong morals, it should roll off the back.
It seems this entire family craves attention..
its crazy how you can work hard and could meet the criteria to be accepted into harvard, but get denied. but if i became trans id be a “hero” and gain so many scholarships?! lmao
She was a valedictorian of her class, and she's not a hero just for being trans (even though it is a difficult thing to be and live as ones preferred gender) but of her years of fighting for trans rights and activism even before she was an adult
Remember the guy who wrote on his entrance essay- ‘’black lives matter black lives matters ..’’ over and over and got in. Hmmmmm🤔
@@spartan1347981 online school
I don’t even understand wtf is going on. Idk who is trying to date who. There’s too many people in this situation 😩
My brain can't wrap my head around it
Just let him be happy everyone deserves to be happy no matter what they are
Right? If he wants to date a trans woman, let him, and if he still considers himself straight while dating a trans women, that's fine. People put too much stock on labels and are too into other people's business lol
@@spartan1347981 If Jazz identifies as female, Sander can identify as straight even if he sucks 🍆
Aww!! You are all amazing!! Hello Raymond!! Connie Lee Braun ❤
In the 80s it was Transvestite. Times change. It's life.
Yeah! I think some people still refer to themselves as transvestite, but I think it's evolved to mean a guy who likes to crossdress, which is separate to being transgender.
@@NovellaDeParmesano nope! Both transgender people and transvestites can be straight, what an over generalization
Let's do the time warp again....
Is this the 80s? Are his friends from the 80s? Bffr
@@abigailmarughu3403 Nah bro. It's the 20s.
Jazz’s brothers are attractive.
Yea … it almost look like she was adapted lmao.
I’d marry Sander in a heartbeat. The other isn’t as cute imo
i saw sander on a facebook jewish dating group LMAO you right
@@yourmajesty7124 He's going to ask you to throw on a strap on and go to town on him
Jazz IS A BROTHER
Jazz looks like he's pregnant 🤰 😅
Pressure made him change his mind
You guys ever drive past an old Pizza Hut that went out of business? Remember the icon roof and brick exterior? A new business could open up and you'd still remember the old Pizza Hut. One day you might drive past and say, "wow that's weird, the old Pizza Hut is now a bank"... Well that's sorta what I think about when I see a transgender. Sure, many people will be nice to their faces but everyone knows what they REALLY are... Just like everyone knows what that bank used to be. Anyways, I'm kinda hungry now. Time for some 🍕
I think Jazz passes pretty well. I don’t think I’d really see her walking around and think, “yeah, that’s a dude.” There’s a lot of trans people who don’t, but that’s just my opinion.
Wow Raymond seems to be such a genuine friend !!!!! 🥺
@@user-yh6rs1kl3r or real life, "bottle surgery" lol this world is really disturbing now.
This is not a comment because I think this is what sanders is doing but dating ANY!!! Person who is a minority just because they are a minority is not the way to do it. We are not here to complete your profile. Date a person because you like the person not the race, sexuality, or gender. Just thought it was important to say
He has to. Otherwise he has to accept Jazz's life as well as his own is nothing but a lie.