Jordan only interrupted once ; that could be a new record and hints at the fact he didnt feel capable of challenging Stefan on an intellectual level. Great stuff.
Simons disdain for Stefan is plain to see. Whenever a knowledgeable guest makes an appearance the fragility becomes apparent. Sad to see the Lord faltering.
Ive been thinking the same for a while, he’s usually a big fish in a small tank but he’s absolutely out of his depth when someone with anything more than an average intellect comes on the show. Simon was the reason I started watching/listening to TS but the more you watch him the more he grates on you.
@@moneymanifestation9505 wait a minute. Hold up. So according to you, a RUclips commenter, they're guilty? Who are you exactly? Do tell, because I'd love to know how you've come up with that conclusion. Makes zero sense to me.
@Mikejames1080 did city show their finances? No so they are obviously guilty. Have any other championship teams dominated Europe? Of course not because they don't have the money. So where did the money come from ? Their own pockets which is BREAKING THE RULES🤡your team is finished, just face facts
It is an indication of a ‘dodgy’ organisation that the EPL insists on clubs agreeing to arbitration to resolve differences rather than normal legal processes. It means the rules can bypass traditional English commercial law but also means it can all happen behind closed doors. I Am beginning to think we need an independent regulator.
My gut feeling is that wether City has actually done anything or not, the PL does not have the ability and will not be able to effectively prove anything. I think City will be cleared from most if not all charges. The UEFA case is essentially dealing with the same information and allegations which City have already defeated once. There's also a common misconception about that case and its findings being wrong because certain things were apparently time-barred. But the CAS conclusion is public and available to read and if you actually go through it you'll see that City probably have the upper hand.
UEFA had some of the same information. But the key is City did not defeat the charges, CAS just found them to be outside the time limits. Incidentally, City had their own people on that CAS panel and it was a closed session with no minutes released- dodgy as he'll.
The fact that someone at TS went back and created a new thumbnail for this video with the most negative takeaway, shows you talkSport's strategy on City coverage. edit: The original thumbnail highlighted that he doesn't see it being an issue before the arbitration is complete. I'm surprised they've let Stefan offer up the balance he brings at all but it's still too little too late for me. Every video without him is another free for all with bias and misinformation galore.
Less spending by big clubs as little value in the market. Branthwaite, Guehi and Gordon have big price tags and clubs are tired of big fees when they can walk for free when contract ends. Let players push for a transfer if they want to leave, or else see out your contract.
They ain’t gonna be kicked down 3 divisions randomly. They’ll either be fined, have a points deduction, relegated to the championship, or expelled from the football league. Idk where people are league 2 from
We know you are here for Stefan is clickbaits, Man City solicitors will run rings around an incompetent Premier League that took more than 10 years to bring charges, that says everything
They haven't admitted it because they are trying to hide it, and that's why it's dragging on.. if they admit there guilty then it opens up the whole can of worms there trying to hide.. lot of these charges are non compliant with the FA.. that says enough... got good lawyers as St pep says.. 😢
If they are found guilty, the others will sue. If clubs have lost millions in revenue because they have missed out on Champions League football because of City's activities, then they'll have to pay. The same applies to Chelsea.
Stefan’s body language is that of knowing guilt. Folding your arms and rocking like that is an attempt to self comfort. Given that he’s been shilling for Man City for years he should be shitting himself 😂
I remember the first day talk sport invited Stefan, Simon kept interrupting and arguing with emotions, interesting to see how Stefan somehow put him in his place and now he just listens while the expert in the room speaks. 😂😂😂
Love how ppl defend city when Everton got two points deductions for smaller charges. The public knowledge is clear. But no one does know what will happen so any wild speculation of whatever the charges will be are asinine. There is obviously things the public don't know.
Utd earn more money they have bigger gates ,bigger fan base ,more merchandise... I'd look at citys feeder clubs as well . Its dishonest they stockpile players . Abu dhabi sports washing
They should be given a 10 year ban on all transfers, stripped of all honours during the period when they cheated and pay huge compensation to all clubs effected. Pep also should be given fines personally as he has taken money through illegal activities.
Who the hell are you to sit in judgement and deliver both verdict and sentence on a complex case such as this when you have NO VISIBILITY of the evidence to be supplied by either party? Armchair judges make me sick.
isnt this the same guy who said its inevitable that Chelsea will fail FFP by June because they cant sell £80 m worth of players before the start of the Euros ?
That could still be the case. FFP is declared every 3 years and the punishment isn’t handed out over night. If Chelsea have failed FFP they’ll be given a transfer ban like a few years ago with Lampard coming in.
To be fair he was right that they didn't sell £80 million worth of players, wasn't he? He just didn't factor in that Chelsea would sell a Hotel to avoid PSR.
Chelsea had to sell hotels and parking lots to abide by the FFP rules..... so, unless you're that thick in the head, you'll understand why he said what he said
just unfair really, Leeds got done over by forest and everton while they was in the prem then got relegated, then in the championship they get done over again by Leicester , its ridiculous !
@@phillipbenchinho4943 ya but that affects a couple of clubs man city have put the whole league in disrupute and if they don't get relagated it's a travesty
It's just typical of those that govern the sport to try and stamp their authority to show they are in charge. I don't see the premier league now as an attractive investment or a professional structure, the corruption from the top is clear and evident.
Why league two though, so they can go and mess up the place with shady dealings? Any particular hatred you have fkr league two, why are deliberately targeting them?
@@russellward4624 the initial comment said “if found guilty”. Didn’t feel the need to reiterate it again. Obviously they’re not gonna be booted out if they’re innocent. Evidence remains to be seen, that’s kind of the point of a 12 week trial
@@citrusblue9367 you bought your success with money from a nation state and cheated the rules every way you could. You beat yourselves and know deep down any success is not real.
I think this will now cause horrific losses for the premier league, I think this will stop mass investment, players going to the premier league and sponsorship.
I wonder what amazing inside information you have that the rest of the world doesn't? It'd be amazing if you could tell us how you know they're actually guilty.
When did the premier league become political . All these city things are just bais and jealousy . Have never seen where someone wants to spend his money and so-called financial fair play who are politicians disturbing football. This game is not for politicians
Nope. It's just that rules were put in place, that all clubs signed up for, and City then purposefully circumnavigated (polite way of saying cheated) those rules to gain an unfair sporting advantage. Those rules were put in place because Abramovich spent between 2x to 6x than the other big clubs to buy success and nobody wanted a succession of rich owners just buying success with the richest winning- also because his spending caused wages and transfers to over inflate meaning it cost other clubs even more.
They have wrecked the integrity of the league for over a decade. Their owners should be forced to sell .city should be relegated to league 1 with a 10 year transfer ban..they still cooked the books from 2019 to this day even after they were caught
Who the hell are you to sit in judgement and deliver both verdict and sentence on a complex case such as this when you have NO VISIBILITY of the evidence to be supplied by either party? Armchair judges make me sick.
Shut up. They won it on the FIELD. Even if they spent a bit more then what they could, they havent spent more then the likes of Man Utd. If they lose any of they previously titles, it will be the start of the doom of the Premier League.
Every time anyone is successful something like this to disrupt the progression is always thrown in their paths. I don't see anyone outside the UK now investing in the UK in capacity.
@@paulbrickland9625 in every other sport - cheaters have their titles stripped. football is no different. fyi - outside sponsors don't like being associated with cheats either, good luck paying players wages then LMAO
Would Stefan have something to answer for during the Man City hearing? He was advising Man City, financially. I guess he was only advising but it seems odd that he is narrating on this whole debacle whilst he potentially has some involvement? Could be he was not advising city when they broke these rules, I don’t know 🤷🏻♂️
He worked for the club until the take over in 2008. He has nothing to do with anything regarding these deals that the charges are over. Since then hes just a City fan with very detailed knowledge of financing rules in football.
Think about it… every club that has been pushed down a place in the PL since these alleged offences. Clubs have missed out on CL football, EL football and prize money. If it’s found that they have essentially cheated to achieve those league positions, there could be a tsunami of legal action from clubs who have finished beneath them.
There will be no justice served in this case. Everyone knows it will be a fine and docked a few points and that will be it. A case as extreme as this should be held in public.
Everyteam should definitely sue city (abu dhabi ) how much will it cost them tho ? If you finished outsidd of champions league spot . Their cheating cost you 100m plus .
Average football fan doesn't have the mental capacity to take in and digest something as complicated as the charges against City. They are too hell bent on comparing apples with oranges and lack the ability to separate individual cases. Let's not even talk about the fact that the information that started this whole thing was obtained illegally. How can any illegally obtained information be admissible in court? There are other teams also inline for similar treatment to what City are headed for, so don't think it's just them that are in trouble. Isn't Chelsea next in the firing line?
@bluemoon1716 um, you must not understand. They used time and their resources to get away with it. They were in fact found guilty and banned from the Champions League. Your partner must love having you around.
@@michaelwilliams-nq6zg the time barred stuff is in the public domain now it was about the etihad sponsorship well since etihad went public anyone can read their accounts and uefa did all this from emails from a Portuguese fraudster who's now doing time for is crimes
It’s a problem either way due to their corruption. If found guilty they would also have to strip all of city’s domestic trophies which leaves a massive hole in the books or hand them out to runners out which leaves a sour taste in the other clubs
Everything has to be covered up. What a surprise. Let the back handers begin. City will get a points deduction they can easily claw back and stay in prem makes it look like they done something
@@Maax1200 they don't need too as they've spent big over the last few decades. But to get a squad together to compete with them you do and when a team does the usual suspects start piping up about oil money and the rest
@@Maax1200 In March, the Mirror reported that data from Transfermarkt had revealed Manchester United were the league's biggest net spenders between 2013/14 and 2023/24. In total, the Red Devils spent £1.53 billion and brought in £398.4 million worth of income, leaving them with a total net spend of £1.13 billion
The current 'Big Six' Premier League clubs were responsible for well over half of that spending, with Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United, Manchester City and Spurs spending a combined €10.1 billion in the past decade.
@@user-iz9co4qf6z United, Liverpool and Arsenal can spend big because they are the biggest PL teams in the world. Unlike City. And as far as i know Arsenal is not known for spending big, and to a certain extent neither is Liverpool. United can spend because they are one of the big 3 in the world, United, Real and Barca.
How awesome would it be though if they did actually have Mr Bean on, he'd be running rings round clowns like Danny Murphy with his level of 'intellect'
Strategic .. look at big investors Buffet at Hathaway .. compare a graph of when he stockpiles money ( he has close to $200B) , to when the S&B 500 crashes. Then overlay them, he gets it right 100% of the time, he says crash is coming bigger than 2008.!! Its the banks lending again, this time not so much houses but business properties ( officee blocks etc). The estimate us roughly $2.5 T in "BAD" debt. Now you say, why does that matter , this is not office blocks.. it matters because borrowing money will become very expensive BUT also pretty hard to get. Buffett has been warning of this for over 6 months now. Many are worried he is correct. The $2.5T bad debt is correct, problem comes in determining how many can squeeze past difficulties & how many walk away leaving the bank in trouble. "Office blocks" etc are not mortgaged the same as a house, the mortgage intrest % changes every few years, you can also get mortgage without your name holding liability... Hence why the worry, as many can just walk away !
@@wickedmanrick pumping money in through fake sponsors and refusing the league the right to investigate goes against the rules City agreed to play in the English League. without doing that, they'd still be in league one
Yes, so the PL can keep it a secret that they let City of the hook for all kinds of reasons. Non of witch has anything to do with sportsmanship, honesty etc.
They are cheaters! They should be punished like no club had ever been punished before. I don't even hate them but nobody can just shyte all over the rules and laugh at it. They should be made an example of.
@@BadAppleBlues When you're asked to turn the books in on the basis of these allegations and in response you throw a tantrum and accuse everyone of tyranny and threaten to sue the league for asking you to cooperate you're as guilty as sin! Nobody buys your waffling!
@@BadAppleBlues 35 of the charges are for them refusing the league to investigate their finances - you have to be pretty dim if you think they are innocent
Money talks and they will be cleared, if so the premier league is finished along with all the officials at the FA ..a disgrace that city have got away with this for years ..😡😡😡😡
Jordan only interrupted once ; that could be a new record and hints at the fact he didnt feel capable of challenging Stefan on an intellectual level. Great stuff.
Right, the genius stefan who has got every prediction he has made on talksport wrong.
@@dontbewoke Simon = Top Lad Proper Clobber.
Probably more to do with the fact that they've had this same conversation every other day for the last year.
Do you know what you are talking about.
What was there to challenge you clown
Sometimes listening and staying quiet is the most intellectual thing to do
Simons disdain for Stefan is plain to see. Whenever a knowledgeable guest makes an appearance the fragility becomes apparent. Sad to see the Lord faltering.
High degree of narcissism, so it’s expected.
Simon doesn’t like to challenged intellectually, it’s why he primarily works with Jim and Keown.
He's not comfortable with not being the brightest man in the room....thats evident.
So true😆
Ive been thinking the same for a while, he’s usually a big fish in a small tank but he’s absolutely out of his depth when someone with anything more than an average intellect comes on the show. Simon was the reason I started watching/listening to TS but the more you watch him the more he grates on you.
Take away ‘could’, ‘might’ and ‘maybe’ … there’s not much substance in this article
Lmao
It’s the same with every media company.
Still doesn't change the facts 😂they're are guilty and will be getting relegated
@@moneymanifestation9505 wait a minute. Hold up. So according to you, a RUclips commenter, they're guilty? Who are you exactly? Do tell, because I'd love to know how you've come up with that conclusion. Makes zero sense to me.
@Mikejames1080 did city show their finances? No so they are obviously guilty. Have any other championship teams dominated Europe? Of course not because they don't have the money. So where did the money come from ? Their own pockets which is BREAKING THE RULES🤡your team is finished, just face facts
It's a disgrace that no fans will get to know the gory details.
Nah, it’ll be a blessing. Rather a proper summary via a court system than spun-headlines from tinpot newspapers.
It is an indication of a ‘dodgy’ organisation that the EPL insists on clubs agreeing to arbitration to resolve differences rather than normal legal processes. It means the rules can bypass traditional English commercial law but also means it can all happen behind closed doors. I
Am beginning to think we need an independent regulator.
Brexit will probably change and bend their laws to make their masters happy
I didn't realise John McEnroe was so knowledgeable about football.
You can not be serious
Didn’t he play for Newcastle in the nineties !
Always an interesting listen with Stefan, you can see Simon wanting him to trip up everytime he speaks.
All the secrecy just makes it more suspect
PL WILL let City of the hook. City can be gullty as sin, makes no differance.
Is this case going to be public? Because it effing should.
city will pay millions to make sure it stays in-house..
it steffan should
@@Whooooooaaamaaan PL hearings doesn't happen in public. Not everything can be blamed on City.
Good hope those cheaters from city have give trophys back other teams financially joke 😢
My gut feeling is that wether City has actually done anything or not, the PL does not have the ability and will not be able to effectively prove anything. I think City will be cleared from most if not all charges.
The UEFA case is essentially dealing with the same information and allegations which City have already defeated once. There's also a common misconception about that case and its findings being wrong because certain things were apparently time-barred. But the CAS conclusion is public and available to read and if you actually go through it you'll see that City probably have the upper hand.
It's totally different from the uefa ones
UEFA had some of the same information. But the key is City did not defeat the charges, CAS just found them to be outside the time limits. Incidentally, City had their own people on that CAS panel and it was a closed session with no minutes released- dodgy as he'll.
Well they’ve already been found guilty once and had to pay 40 mil fine in 13/14 so they can be.
Hopefully they ban cheating clubs like City for good, but you know Brexit is pretty much owned by these owners like UAE and Saudi
Didn't defeat uefa let them.off , the evidence was there . Time barred which is a joke really
love how Jim keeps pursing his lips like Dick Emery's Honky-Tonk lol!
He never stops licking his lips either; its very disconcerting.
@@larrydavid1070 strange
Ooooh, you are awful, but I do like you….
@@HaakonOdinsson😂
It's because he has dentures on, takes them off at night and puts them in a glass of water
The fact that someone at TS went back and created a new thumbnail for this video with the most negative takeaway, shows you talkSport's strategy on City coverage. edit: The original thumbnail highlighted that he doesn't see it being an issue before the arbitration is complete.
I'm surprised they've let Stefan offer up the balance he brings at all but it's still too little too late for me. Every video without him is another free for all with bias and misinformation galore.
Less spending by big clubs as little value in the market. Branthwaite, Guehi and Gordon have big price tags and clubs are tired of big fees when they can walk for free when contract ends. Let players push for a transfer if they want to leave, or else see out your contract.
@@Pelican20091 nobody can afford to spend and stay in psr perameters
@@paulbrickland9625 some clubs can spend, they just choose not to.
let him speak simon 😂
The restraint is not PSR.. the restraint is home grown totals and lack of and new rules surrounding this
If it’s a fine then it’s totally pointless. Kick them down to league 2 and make an example.
Both, AND strip their titles.
An example of what exactly?
They ain’t gonna be kicked down 3 divisions randomly. They’ll either be fined, have a points deduction, relegated to the championship, or expelled from the football league. Idk where people are league 2 from
For what we're innocent this was all to put off Independant financial control
If they boot out the best team the EPL has ever seen, it’s a sad day. Just to please the crying RED CARTEL. 🤗
We know you are here for Stefan is clickbaits, Man City solicitors will run rings around an incompetent Premier League that took more than 10 years to bring charges, that says everything
Lance Amstrong FC. The ship is sinking...
Polish scouser? Ew
@@britpackdog4545 , problem?
@@PolishScouser74 ew
Better worry bout Putin 😂
@@ma466 , you should as well. By the way Liverpool is in England.
Disgusting the 2 tier policing of PL , Everton get hammered, City get treated like prince andrew
Everton admitted then where cheating its easy where as city havent been found or said they are guilty
▪︎Charges - 115
▪︎Evidences - 0 😂
Hard to argue your statement👍🏽
Everton admitted guilt. City have not. You might want to do some very basic research first lad
They haven't admitted it because they are trying to hide it, and that's why it's dragging on.. if they admit there guilty then it opens up the whole can of worms there trying to hide.. lot of these charges are non compliant with the FA.. that says enough... got good lawyers as St pep says.. 😢
Stefan always talks nice and calmly but always seems to bounce around on his chair like he’s dealing with haemorrhoids
why waste peoples time, Man City will get no points penalty. They will get a fine they will pay and move on panel will get special gifts.
If they are found guilty, the others will sue. If clubs have lost millions in revenue because they have missed out on Champions League football because of City's activities, then they'll have to pay. The same applies to Chelsea.
Jim White has reached Michael Owen levels of anoying
Without oil money mancity could not have won anything. That is why they can never match Manutd and Liverpool even if they win for next 10 years.
Right on!!! Strip them of every title
Stefan’s body language is that of knowing guilt. Folding your arms and rocking like that is an attempt to self comfort. Given that he’s been shilling for Man City for years he should be shitting himself 😂
When this Stefan guy speaks for his former employers half of the comments are filled with man city spammers describing how intelligent he is!!!
@@jsp5544 well at least you can spot intelligence unlike most of your ilk
I remember the first day talk sport invited Stefan, Simon kept interrupting and arguing with emotions, interesting to see how Stefan somehow put him in his place and now he just listens while the expert in the room speaks. 😂😂😂
Simon gunning for Man City at every turn
@@basswolf86 cis he's on the red cartel pay roll or he's just jealous of success
Money corrupts everything.
Simon Jordans a nob
And you’re a little melt
@@Freestyla- well at least I ain't bankrupt a football club like the nob
borson is really the only one that cooks simon
Love how ppl defend city when Everton got two points deductions for smaller charges. The public knowledge is clear. But no one does know what will happen so any wild speculation of whatever the charges will be are asinine. There is obviously things the public don't know.
@@Xeksirt Everton were guilty they admitted it mind you manutd were even more behind psr till pl bailed them out
Well done Stefan, holding your own with these talk sport talking heads... 🤣
Iam more interested in 40 million man u got for the lock down the rest of the premier league got 1 million etch
Utd earn more money they have bigger gates ,bigger fan base ,more merchandise... I'd look at citys feeder clubs as well . Its dishonest they stockpile players . Abu dhabi sports washing
They should be given a 10 year ban on all transfers, stripped of all honours during the period when they cheated and pay huge compensation to all clubs effected. Pep also should be given fines personally as he has taken money through illegal activities.
And Arsenal should bé given the last 2 if not 1 PL Title
Grow up
Aww, u want mommy to kiss the boo boo? I know it hurts when ur club can't compete on the pitch.
Careful, Tony. Irrational hate speech gets you three years in prison these days!🙂
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love how this guy dispenses knowledge
Should be thrown down to League 2 minimum and transfer ban and have to use the youth system for a few years.
Who the hell are you to sit in judgement and deliver both verdict and sentence on a complex case such as this when you have NO VISIBILITY of the evidence to be supplied by either party? Armchair judges make me sick.
@@peterkillick3310 Oh that's easy, I'm GOD 🤷♂️
isnt this the same guy who said its inevitable that Chelsea will fail FFP by June because they cant sell £80 m worth of players before the start of the Euros ?
That could still be the case. FFP is declared every 3 years and the punishment isn’t handed out over night. If Chelsea have failed FFP they’ll be given a transfer ban like a few years ago with Lampard coming in.
To be fair he was right that they didn't sell £80 million worth of players, wasn't he? He just didn't factor in that Chelsea would sell a Hotel to avoid PSR.
The guy is obsessed with Chelsea tbf
Last I heard the hotel sale was still being investigated. Can’t imagine why he often mentions Chelsea with respect to overspending😂
Chelsea had to sell hotels and parking lots to abide by the FFP rules..... so, unless you're that thick in the head, you'll understand why he said what he said
just unfair really, Leeds got done over by forest and everton while they was in the prem then got relegated, then in the championship they get done over again by Leicester , its ridiculous !
Not seen anyone sue clubs that have already failed FFP.
Big difference city won alot of trophies that they shouldn't have they deserve to be sued
@@kushpop-420Everton and forest relegation battle last year.. the relegated clubs would say otherwise.?. all charges are before 2018
@@phillipbenchinho4943 ya but that affects a couple of clubs man city have put the whole league in disrupute and if they don't get relagated it's a travesty
@@kushpop-420 there you go again assuming but put it this way when city are cleared they might sue your club
@@kushpop-420 another one assuming city are guilty can't wait to hear the grovelling apology when your proved wrong
It's just typical of those that govern the sport to try and stamp their authority to show they are in charge. I don't see the premier league now as an attractive investment or a professional structure, the corruption from the top is clear and evident.
They need to be dropped into league 2 if found guilty
Why league two though, so they can go and mess up the place with shady dealings? Any particular hatred you have fkr league two, why are deliberately targeting them?
Where else do you put them? They have to go somewhere and it’s got to be lower than the championship
I'll drop your mother on deez nuts.
@@Graziak5if found guilty. What's the evidence?
@@russellward4624 the initial comment said “if found guilty”. Didn’t feel the need to reiterate it again. Obviously they’re not gonna be booted out if they’re innocent. Evidence remains to be seen, that’s kind of the point of a 12 week trial
Non league for city please.
It’s the only way you can beat us 😂😂😂
@@citrusblue9367 you bought your success with money from a nation state and cheated the rules every way you could. You beat yourselves and know deep down any success is not real.
I think this will now cause horrific losses for the premier league, I think this will stop mass investment, players going to the premier league and sponsorship.
Not fair to bring in Stefan to undermine Simon's intellectual prowess in such a brutal manner.
My cat is now convinced that he too can become a RUclips star. I think we have a new project🧡
It's European football, They won't enforce the rules if it inconveniences them and/or they can sweep it under the rug.
They’ll get away with it
I wonder what amazing inside information you have that the rest of the world doesn't? It'd be amazing if you could tell us how you know they're actually guilty.
@@britpackdog4545 I can’t disclose that unfortunately. The information is highly confidential.
Definitely lol. Govt won't let football sour relations between nations.
@@malpa2345 man. Shame
@@francesoxberry6816 oooo
When did the premier league become political . All these city things are just bais and jealousy . Have never seen where someone wants to spend his money and so-called financial fair play who are politicians disturbing football. This game is not for politicians
Nope. It's just that rules were put in place, that all clubs signed up for, and City then purposefully circumnavigated (polite way of saying cheated) those rules to gain an unfair sporting advantage. Those rules were put in place because Abramovich spent between 2x to 6x than the other big clubs to buy success and nobody wanted a succession of rich owners just buying success with the richest winning- also because his spending caused wages and transfers to over inflate meaning it cost other clubs even more.
They have wrecked the integrity of the league for over a decade. Their owners should be forced to sell .city should be relegated to league 1 with a 10 year transfer ban..they still cooked the books from 2019 to this day even after they were caught
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Who the hell are you to sit in judgement and deliver both verdict and sentence on a complex case such as this when you have NO VISIBILITY of the evidence to be supplied by either party? Armchair judges make me sick.
Shut up. They won it on the FIELD. Even if they spent a bit more then what they could, they havent spent more then the likes of Man Utd. If they lose any of they previously titles, it will be the start of the doom of the Premier League.
And your proof?
@@peterkillick3310 They already been found guilty once by UEFA you doofus.
Every time anyone is successful something like this to disrupt the progression is always thrown in their paths. I don't see anyone outside the UK now investing in the UK in capacity.
Stefan is the only guest on the show that has a higher IQ than Simon. Simon’s ego doesn’t like that
Other clubs suing City is only inevitable if the punishment is weak
You paid him for that! He told you nothing 😂😂😂😂😂
Why shouldn’t the best engineering company be allowed to buy the best equipment?
Just like old times back in league 2!
Just like old times back. Your wife sucking me d….
Stop blaming Manchester City for your own clubs failings..embarrassing 😭🏆
100% should happen! They have constantly cheated every team for years! Fans of other clubs should also sue them!
@@paulcavanagh1294 prove it just because papers like the sun say its true doesn't mean it is remember hillsborough
@@paulbrickland9625 which team you switching to when it does happen?
@@matthewbaker2573 city till I die mate not a glory hound like you you never take the glory of what city have achieved away from us
@@paulbrickland9625 in every other sport - cheaters have their titles stripped. football is no different.
fyi - outside sponsors don't like being associated with cheats either, good luck paying players wages then LMAO
@@matthewbaker2573 but your assuming they're cheats there's no proof if that
Would Stefan have something to answer for during the Man City hearing? He was advising Man City, financially. I guess he was only advising but it seems odd that he is narrating on this whole debacle whilst he potentially has some involvement? Could be he was not advising city when they broke these rules, I don’t know 🤷🏻♂️
He worked for the club until the take over in 2008. He has nothing to do with anything regarding these deals that the charges are over. Since then hes just a City fan with very detailed knowledge of financing rules in football.
Do some research yourself mate
at this point city own the league and referees, and the results are predictable. epl has lost its way and is a joke at this point
Think about it… every club that has been pushed down a place in the PL since these alleged offences. Clubs have missed out on CL football, EL football and prize money. If it’s found that they have essentially cheated to achieve those league positions, there could be a tsunami of legal action from clubs who have finished beneath them.
Liverpool would have won a couple of PL’s more
How? We've bought less players spent less, pkay better calm down
@@jalberto428 Not the point is it? City spent a sh*t load more than the should have been able to wernt if for cooking the books.
@@jalberto428bought less and spent less than who?
There will be no justice served in this case. Everyone knows it will be a fine and docked a few points and that will be it. A case as extreme as this should be held in public.
Everyteam should definitely sue city (abu dhabi ) how much will it cost them tho ? If you finished outsidd of champions league spot . Their cheating cost you 100m plus .
Lets hope so 🙏
So the other clubs have to follow the rule to arbitrate disagreements over Man City allegedly breaking rules? Ok Stefan.
City could and should sue other clubs and individuals for slander when they are cleared.
@@steve-en7bm yeah that would make their arseholes pukka up
Leicester fan ,let's stay out of this one.
City just playing out the clock. Maybe it will work. Delay delay delay
Oh for spending their own money
There is no clock...
Average football fan doesn't have the mental capacity to take in and digest something as complicated as the charges against City. They are too hell bent on comparing apples with oranges and lack the ability to separate individual cases. Let's not even talk about the fact that the information that started this whole thing was obtained illegally. How can any illegally obtained information be admissible in court? There are other teams also inline for similar treatment to what City are headed for, so don't think it's just them that are in trouble. Isn't Chelsea next in the firing line?
Chelsea will be. But not yet. They have bypassed FFP with long deals. But it will come back to haunt them.
What happened to transparency
Since when did Martin Freeman start doing TalkSPORT!?….his career has taken one hell of a nosedive!
The last thing City will be worried about is a few desperate Premier league clubs tryna make a bit of easy money ....
The City apologist strikes again. Relegate them for what UEFA found them guilty of and move on.
Uefa didn't find them guilty they claimed guilt and then couldn't prove anything. Even CAS criticized uefa for their poor case against city
@bluemoon1716 um, you must not understand. They used time and their resources to get away with it. They were in fact found guilty and banned from the Champions League. Your partner must love having you around.
@@bluemoon1716 What nonsense did you just type? 😂
@@michaelwilliams-nq6zg the time barred stuff is in the public domain now it was about the etihad sponsorship well since etihad went public anyone can read their accounts and uefa did all this from emails from a Portuguese fraudster who's now doing time for is crimes
@@michaelwilliams-nq6zg oh and the cas judge meant was 96 pages long it wasn't just a paragraph I suggest you read it
Liverpool needs to go and spend
the net spend pretenders have tried, but their target rejected them
What is Shane richie doing on talksport😂
Premier league are going to bottle it and let them off
It’s a problem either way due to their corruption. If found guilty they would also have to strip all of city’s domestic trophies which leaves a massive hole in the books or hand them out to runners out which leaves a sour taste in the other clubs
@@guneytopal1713how can you be guilty if found not guilty you have 0 ball knowledge thats what your not in this field can clearly see
@@guneytopal1713Jesus I’m glad you know your stuff mate I’m sure your in touch with city and the premier league 😂 absolute parcel
@@howlieMCFC your a dumbass if you think the PL, Man City and any other big club, UEFA, FIFA aren’t corrupt. Keep your head in the sand
and if they do - United will show everyone what a real transfer war chest looks like every season with no repercussions
Relegate them
A total coverup. This needs an open transparent case. No faith in the process.
Everything has to be covered up. What a surprise. Let the back handers begin. City will get a points deduction they can easily claw back and stay in prem makes it look like they done something
If it was up to Utd, Liverpool and Arseholenal fans, only their teams should be allowed to big spend and win the PL
None of those teams are spending big at the moment so i dont know wtf you are on about.
@@Maax1200 they don't need too as they've spent big over the last few decades. But to get a squad together to compete with them you do and when a team does the usual suspects start piping up about oil money and the rest
@@Maax1200 In March, the Mirror reported that data from Transfermarkt had revealed Manchester United were the league's biggest net spenders between 2013/14 and 2023/24. In total, the Red Devils spent £1.53 billion and brought in £398.4 million worth of income, leaving them with a total net spend of £1.13 billion
The current 'Big Six' Premier League clubs were responsible for well over half of that spending, with Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United, Manchester City and Spurs spending a combined €10.1 billion in the past decade.
@@user-iz9co4qf6z United, Liverpool and Arsenal can spend big because they are the biggest PL teams in the world. Unlike City. And as far as i know Arsenal is not known for spending big, and to a certain extent neither is Liverpool. United can spend because they are one of the big 3 in the world, United, Real and Barca.
He was on city’s payroll mouth peace
Don’t worry City fans, this is the dumbest guy in football.
Why are Talk Sport so insistent on having Mr. Bean on the show every week?!
How awesome would it be though if they did actually have Mr Bean on, he'd be running rings round clowns like Danny Murphy with his level of 'intellect'
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Strategic .. look at big investors Buffet at Hathaway .. compare a graph of when he stockpiles money ( he has close to $200B) , to when the S&B 500 crashes. Then overlay them, he gets it right 100% of the time, he says crash is coming bigger than 2008.!! Its the banks lending again, this time not so much houses but business properties ( officee blocks etc). The estimate us roughly $2.5 T in "BAD" debt. Now you say, why does that matter , this is not office blocks.. it matters because borrowing money will become very expensive BUT also pretty hard to get. Buffett has been warning of this for over 6 months now. Many are worried he is correct. The $2.5T bad debt is correct, problem comes in determining how many can squeeze past difficulties & how many walk away leaving the bank in trouble. "Office blocks" etc are not mortgaged the same as a house, the mortgage intrest % changes every few years, you can also get mortgage without your name holding liability... Hence why the worry, as many can just walk away !
10 12week trials? Soo over 120weeks in trial not including the time in between? Ain’t there only 52 weeks in a year?
Don't worry. I'm sure your significant other at least thinks you're very witty and clever.
Not the sharpest tool in the box are you mate
cheaty will do a dirty deal with the prem lge.we are just waiting to see how dirty it is
Nobody wants to sue ! We want trophies pulled back ! Why ? Because they have potentially won them by cheating
Sorry that's not going to happen I'm afraid and the way the premier league are going they will be bankrupt there's that many court cases.
How is it cheating did they have a 2-0 up on everyone how did the players cheat? They play 90 mins like the other team so how did they cheat explain??
Speak for yourself
@@wickedmanrick pumping money in through fake sponsors and refusing the league the right to investigate goes against the rules City agreed to play in the English League. without doing that, they'd still be in league one
They’ll get away with the lot. Not even a slap on the wrist
the public is not allowed, very suspicious
Don't talk nonesense
@@steveblease listen to the vid before u replay
Both parties agreed to keep it private JORDAN...BOTH.!!....do your homework ffs !!
Yes, so the PL can keep it a secret that they let City of the hook for all kinds of reasons. Non of witch has anything to do with sportsmanship, honesty etc.
They cann't beat M.C, then sue M.C. 😂😂
Biggest cheats going,
Blue moon keep rising
Liverpool suffered and lost most of all during that period of cheating.
Liverpool were competing for the premier league title when Mancini was manger?
They cheated for years and naffin has happened the league is a joke man city will just pay them off n thats that ffs. 115 charges joke.
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They are cheaters!
They should be punished like no club had ever been punished before.
I don't even hate them but nobody can just shyte all over the rules and laugh at it.
They should be made an example of.
I’m glad you’ve got all the facts to know we are guilty 😂 absolute plant pot you are
Don't you want them to be found guilty first? You sound like you should work for Starmer's SS!
@@BadAppleBlues When you're asked to turn the books in on the basis of these allegations and in response you throw a tantrum and accuse everyone of tyranny and threaten to sue the league for asking you to cooperate you're as guilty as sin!
Nobody buys your waffling!
@@Barbariansdagger no but it seems the rules are different for utd isispool and arsenal
@@BadAppleBlues 35 of the charges are for them refusing the league to investigate their finances - you have to be pretty dim if you think they are innocent
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Money talks and they will be cleared, if so the premier league is finished along with all the officials at the FA ..a disgrace that city have got away with this for years ..😡😡😡😡
@@denisomahoney5464 so it's alright for united to be one and a half billion in debt and still spend more than city over the last five years
@@paulbrickland9625being in debt and false accounting are not the same thing.
What are they guilty of ? Can you name the charges ?
@@EricPaulLolakos cos he can't I'm surprised he can read and type
Simon getting schooled as usual 😂😂
▪︎City Vs Establishment
▪︎Now out in open,no?😂
Stefan is absolutely clueless