Simon Jordan TEARS APART PFA Chief & DARES Him To Take On The Premier League In Player Breaks DEBATE
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
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Simon Jordan and Martin Keown debated whether PFA Chief Maheta Molango's proposals for increased player breaks in the Premier League are actually a realistic proposition.
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Talk about their ridiculous and unsustainable wages while they're at it
Unsustainable? The sponsors and tv pay their wages.
@@citrusblue9367 the TV pays their wages.... and where does the TVs money come from? Wakey wakey!
@@HenryGrove-g3u Voluntary subscription. Wakey wakey.
@@citrusblue936780% of turnover
I imagine a strike will be really well received by the fans. I for one look forward to showing solidarity alongside my kids in our replica shirts that cost 2 weeks wages, waving from our seats that cost a months wages before we go home to warch the highlights on Sky sports that cost......
Off topic here but can anyone explain the point of these Bots???????
They want you to become slightly aroused by the comment they leave, then head to their profile and click on a dodgy link. Presumably to a spam website of some kind
No one knows! 😂
These three or the random posts? 😂😂
it happens on every social media channel with a large following you can report them and remove them all you like they won’t go away
Would be surprised if they buy Views and comments, can buy them online
Shame it didn't work for Rashford
You read my mind🫡
He's just scored Two goals
@@talkshitko9234 I see that delighted for him only 1 goal though no? We all know how this goes anyway....eth job on the line they pull off a win. probably lose 3 on the bounce now till his jobs on the line again😂
A proper holiday? The average working man has about 2 weeks holiday during summer, so remind me when the Euro's finished and the PL season started...
The average working man doesn’t have to be in peak human fitness and operate at 100% of best self in front of tens of thousands of people every few days. It’s such a lazy comparison.
Cry more average working man
Since when was a footballer an average working man? Stop these stupid comparisons as you clearly don't have a clue. Such a braindead cliche.
@@leighhudson9279😂😂😂😂😂😂 i guess you’re one of those who actually thinks they deserve the grotesque wages they get paid
@@leighhudson9279 they get the average working man’s annual salary in a week, much easier to be in peak condition earning that much and been paid to be in that condition.
Drop the pointless internationals during the season and that will give more breaks.
Agreed! Also, African Nations Cup should be happening on odd not even years like the World Cup & Euros. They should also be in the summer. Bigger TV audience for African football, more exposure for the players and avoidance of teams across all leagues losing key players during mid-season
Short career doesn’t even enter the discussion if you can earn more money in a single year than most of us will in a life time!
Only the best of the best really achieve that, assuming they don’t get a bad injury, especially if they get a bad injury near the end of their contract. Then what? You’ve sacrificed the best years of your life and you’re out of the game and pretty lost.
Short career should be in the conversation
@user-tg6vq1kn6v you can get a new career ffs cry me a river
@@user-tg6vq1kn6vCome on man...they will have insurance policies that pay them out for life if things go Pete. Even if a Premier League talent broke a leg and had to retire after three months in the game, they'd earn more than most people do in their lifetime. They'd just have to live closer to how regular people do, but they'd still be able to make their wealth work for them, so I have zero sympathy for this short career nonsense.
Rugby players can moan about short careers when they're paid nowhere near what footballers are, yet they play a very brutal game. Boxers mostly don't get what footballers get, except the top top top fighters.
Why don’t the clubs take more responsibility? They choose to play in post season and pre season tours abroad. They choose to play the same players every single week when they have a 25 man squad they can rotate.
Yes, to earn the money that pays the players' wages. If they want to play fewer games, that's fine they should get paid less in return.
Thay should try working a 12 hour shift 5 days aweek like real people doo .. play less games take a pay cut . pre Madonnas the lot of them
😂😂😂prima donna i think you mean mate. Pre madonna😂😂😂😂
Pre maradona
Who tf works 5 × 12 hours shifts? That sounds more like a choice than something you absolutely have to do.
@@Herbalattraction3000 no footballer has to play 50-60 games a season, tell the manager you need a rest, withdraw from the national team.
Plenty of people work 12 hours for 5 days a week.
@@jackreynolds975 Plenty of people want the money I suppose. Where im from you don't have to do that at all. Personally I work 2×24 hour shifts atm. And its way too much. Still have 5 days off a week.
Working 5×12 for a while is alright. For more than a couple of years it's just draining. Mentally and physically
All players absolutely need a proper holiday because they do more physical labour per shift than a ‘normal/ordinary’ human does.
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In the 70's footballers played 42 league games in all weathers, FA Cup games plus replays, League Cup games over 2 legs, European games, Home Internationals and qualifiers.
Lower intensity. Half of them smoked, drank etc. not a valid comparison
@@davidrobinson2776 you’ve just proven the point, players now have about 60 games a season, not 42…
You missed the point lol 42 league games @@theblues8840
@@theblues8840 42 league games. How many PL games are there?
And most of them are dropping dead in their 60’s
Less games, less money - will the players want to take a pay cut to play less!?
Is Martin keown playing sudoku or something? He’s always pissing around with a pen and paper
Just taking and reading notes, looking for figures
I seen his doodles he managed to draw a cat and tried to spell his name but it said "martress". Hes getting there though bless him
Youve got a squad how about use it if the squad is too light spread your spending so you have a more balanced squad its not rocket science 😅
@@nigeisfree7837 if you spread your spending and only buy cheap players you can’t compete for trophies because you can’t buy the best players
60 competitive games is not a joke !! They’re expected to perform at a high level every game ..but this is a business and it needs to make money
Ive always thought the easy solution is pay players "pay as you play".. get paid for each game you play and a base pay for training and travel.
60 games is alot yes but so is all the money that these players are making
How much money do you need to get paid before the body becomes magically immune to injuries…?
@@blinkin78Teams have massive squads
Clubs have massive squads
@@blinkin78 Rotation Rotation Rotation!!! Let's see when Debruyne doesn't get played in certain games.
@@blinkin78 ill take an injury for 250k a week..
Anyone else skip through Martins nonsense?
He’s a soccer moron‼️🙄
No, because then we miss all the context when he gets bullied by Simon 😂😂
@@crow1989 very good point. I stand corrected
@@crow1989you mean outsmarted not that that’s difficult
It's quite simple, just pay them an houly wage, start them off on £15 an hour and they could earn up to £45 on a busy week, they could also have as long off as they want during the summer.
Do you think footballers do the job for love or money
Both....there are many stories of players who don't like the game at all
Imagine footballers if they had to work a regular job. Up at 6.30am, hard days slog in a job that brings little satisfaction, back home 12 hours later. Struggling to pay bills at the end of it.
1. They have a squad. Use it.
2. They don't have to, a month before the season starts, travel the world playing pointless friendlies.
Yes, there are too many games being added and players are being asked to play more games. But a lot of it is self inflicted.
It’s not self inflicted though, the players didn’t decide that FFP exists which means clubs go on pre season tours for revenue purposes.
You can’t win trophies without flogging your best players and you can’t buy the best players without going on tours and adding these “pointless fixtures”.
@@theblues8840those tours were going on LONG before ffp.
@@theblues8840but you can spread the wealth thinner.
The money is ridiculous for 25 players (45 if your Chelsea)
@@theblues8840 A preseason tour is not adding any extra wear and tear on the players, at all. The players need these warm up practice matches for the season proper. If the clubs all stayed home in England for summer they would still be arranging just as many friendlies between each other in preseason. Often clubs even add additional behind closed doors friendlies in mid season because the players need extra preparation. The only difference is that English clubs have determined that playing these preseason practice matches in USA rather than England is more beneficial from a marketing perspective. It makes no difference for the players.
@@TP-pq9xx if it’s extra football matches then that’s literally extra wear and tear.
Also I’m not the one complaining about them going on tour, I’m explaining why they do
Keown calling football work 😂😂😂 get a proper job, and you'll know what that word means.
Players could do 5 years, save hard and retire if they want to
I think de bruyne can save for 2 months mate and be set for life
5 years??? Rashford could retire after 5 weeks at £300k a week.
Keeps saying arsenal invincible keown only played 10 games 😂
It's about time the fans went on strike having to watch at least 80 % of these foreign over rated over payed players . Simon bang on !
Just love the faces Simon pulls when Martin is on the show and then tears into him with Jim stoking the fire 😂. The best double act going bar none!
Keown is unbearably
As a sports bettor who always backs favourites, its interesting to see how my profits fall to break even on a Sunday after the Thursday Europa & Conference games. Players in biggish teams are measurably tired, across most leagues.
keown😡 what a muppet he really is! how many games do they want to play a season? 60 games a season that's 1 game every 6 days!
Premier League clubs can only register 25 players for the season which can get amended in January. Sure you can rotate players, but that can only go so far. We've seen it over the years where managers sacrifice domestic knock out competitions, and use their youth players. If the top clubs are playing 50-60 matches a season, then you are in essence playing a match every 4 days from August to May, which is 39 weeks.
As for a break for those in England. The first thing I would address would be PL winter break. It should be at the same time as the Bundesliga, Ligue 1, and Serie A.
WHY IS THE PFA NOT TELLING THE MANAGERS TO ROTATE!!!
Chelsea dropped palmer in conference league group stages and everyone was outraged!!!
The pfa is a waste of time!!!
Remember the 2008/09 season? Did the team with most England players win the title? They all had a full summer off so I guess they did!
Hasnt keown finished colouring his children's book yet.seems to spend so long looking to see what to colour green in the book and what's with a red crayon..must be hard for him
The solution is to have a top for the amount of hours a player can player each year, like they do in Rugby. It will mean that teams need to use the squad and players will be not burnt out in international tournaments. Even expand the squads if necessary. A top player playing for a top club in the CL and International could play +3500 hours of football a year. Cap it at 3000 and job done.
They have 25 man squads for the Premier League, it's on the managers to rotate tired players. What's all the fuss about? Do the PFA want the game to played by fewer players? If they reduce the number of fixtures, less of their members will actually be participating in games and will be on the bench or in the stands watching while the manager picks the same 11 fresh players every week.
Can we start by stopping all international games? they are complete waste of time.
Why is everything about money with Simon
Why not have a cap on how many matches each player can play per season say 50, teams just have to use bigger squads and use top players strategically for key matches
If this is really such as issue, i don't understand why they wouldn't just work out an appearance cap, they have done this in other sport competitions (rugby for example) & it promotes greater squad rotation & increases appearances made by youth players.
Keown waffling english is a technical language can say what he does in half the words
Martin should shut up and listen to what people are saying.
If the product suffers then all this won't matter, the game is for the fans
Just ask Grealish and Maddison if they would have liked to be picked for International duty and then you will realize Simon is right.
Simon Jordan despising the players union 🤣🤣.
Wow who would have thought a former club owner hates the fact that players have bargaining power.
Martin is a 🎈 how an earth are these players even moaning they are the most privileged people in the world and the wages are disgraceful but to play an extra games means your a successful team stop moaning!!!!
That's pathetic...plating 70 games a season is ridiculous
Here's the thing, we know 100% that these union people would NEVER say 'this player is struggling even though they got rest this summer' like Rashford or 'this player played all summer but is still starting well' like VVD. They only mention the cases that push their narrative.
Most football fans would do that job for nothing, these guys want it all but want to do less to get it and Simon is correct the scenario the PFA is painting applies to a small minority of players and typically these guys are the most handsomely rewarded of all the players.
5:16 "autonomacy". It's 'autonomy', old bean.
He can't hear you
If the players dont like too many games, retire from international football. If thats not enough, quit the game altogether.
remove the Carabao cup for premier league teams and the nations league plus stupid international friendlies
Players moaning about playing 70 games a year max whilst making 150-500k a week not a year a week then you’ve got normal people working 240-250 days a year 8-12hrs a day making £11-£15 per hour stop complaining and be grateful for where you are
Ask Harland if he wants to play in the World Cup final.
Ask Haaland what he'll take between winning the euros and staying at home
Of course they Keown for this one 😂😂
I'm sorry but Martin is a complete waste of space, i have no idea why he's invited onto any channel to talk about football is beyond me!
Because he's arsenal through and through. Arsenal = media. Ipso facto
Number of games isn’t the problem. The amount of wage is - in what way a player like Rashford deserves 350k a week wages? It does not match any other industry or sports
Conditions are so bad, we keep seeing premier league players quit to work down local cafe
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▪︎PL should get away with paying Damages
▪︎PL must be demanded investigated into?🤔
Unproven 😂😂😂😂😂😂 utter delusional 😅😅😅
Also that quote was only referred to the best of the best players. That’s why they referenced to haaland and salah. Look at rashford and co. Martinelli. They have been horrible but they had their breaks
Martin is getting good at the doodling. I can see his picture of a cat on page 2 and the dog on page 5.
I never new becoming wealthy gave you powers to overcome fatigue and mental stress. Mind blowing. 🤔
How much money they on
The players can’t have their cake and eat it. If they want to play less games then they need to take a wage cut.
Would love to hear an explanation of player wages/clubs and their off-shore tax free bank accounts - particularly United, who's billionaire owners pay ZERO UK tax and think we should help fund their new stadium. Player welfare argument is rubbish - 50-60 games a season is just over a game a week ffs - less per player if you take in rotation.
Why does Keown always look like he's doing his homework?
I mean can’t they cut back on friendlies?
This is the emptiest threat in the history of empty threats. No, they’re not going to go on strike. End of.
£250k pw..............I'd play every day! So Haaland has had the summer off and he's scoring for fun.........so what about every other striker that has had the summer off? How many goals have they scored?
Dunno why these footballers don’t just end up playing one month for the whole year
so get rid of international football clubs pay the players not fifa
**Footballers dying from heart conditions**
Media - "We need to do something to help this situation"
**More games added to calendar year**
Footballers - "We need better rests"
Media - "Shut up ya babies, you earn millions"
Footballers weren't dying coz of extra games 😂
@jackdelacey2505 I never said they were? The extra strain on them physically doesn't help the fact that it can increase the risk of heart failure, was the point I was making.
Whether the African players are worth buying? The arrogance
Its all about money money and the power
Rashford nullifies this argument
So Martin says top players want to play every game, so make it so we can play every game, but we need a month off from playing games, then dont play for your country, then again Martin did not have that problem very often, so he had plenty of rest himself
Let em strike and let the cooks and cleaners, etc, take their wage when they are. Even get em playing.
They should be playing more games with the ammount they get paid, havent heard anything more embarrassing than a group of people who are earning more in a week than the majority of ordinary people in a year complaining they need to play fewer games.
well Salah was supposed to play in the olympics but it wasnt fifa sanctioned haha
So less games ...Will player be ok with less money 😂
Srap the nations league !!
Keown doesn’t live in the real world.
As soon as I see Keown off goes the video
I'd happily play 100 games for a week wages they get paid,we all trained for it as kids in the summer,10 in the morning until the sun went down,95 all next goal the winner😂
Reduce wages and have more players at a higher standard
Grass!👀
The clubs are the ones that pay them. And where are they playing ATM? For some meaningless uefa money grab 2 months after the euros ended. BS.
Its really simple... If players want less games but continue to demand their disgusting wages then someone else will have to pony up to bridge the gap and who will that be... US... Subscriptions will increase, season tickets will increase! So basically the players want us to pay more for less content, disgraceful behaviour.
Short career! Every career is especially in the construction industry unless you apply yourself and progress to a non physical role. Footballers have a the options ie. Management, coaching, scouting, TV roles etc all else fails investing they're millions
Then why is the PFA not dead against the Nations league, its more pointless football, just to have more football, makes very little difference in the Euros or World Cup and Simon is right, clubs have squads and the point of a squad is to rest players, the clubs that play the most games have the bigger squads or means to have the bigger squads, if players go on strike that would be perfect, they will lose the support of all fans, most of which have to work two or three jobs to make way, instead of players being paid weekly, pay them per appearance and make that 20% of what they get now, then make the win bonus, clean sheet, assist and goal bonuses 80% of the wages they currently get, they wont want a brake or to strike.
Make the Pfa pay for them selves.
Does Simon continually criticise important to make himself feel like he’s also important?
Will players take a hit on their pay packet, as thats what less games mean, i doubt they will.
So it's got nothing to do with the both of them being amazing players 😅
Bin the nations league off
Footballers these days are WEAK WIMPS
Why is there an African in charge of the PFA? It is because the ‘England’ team is now majority African?
Yeah go on strike
ok to go to far away places in the summer for the cash games. I laugh at the way football is eating itself.
What the hell has it got to do with the prem? Theyhaven't increased the amount of games.
Uefa, fifa are the ones they need to take on. Cut internationals and european games.