Rude, Crude, & Unhinged: Exposing Anita Baker's LONG History of Deplorable Behavior...
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Rude, Crude, & Unhinged: Exposing Anita Baker's LONG History of Deplorable Behavior (Ft. Rick James, China Anne McClain, Babyface, Luther Vandross, Stephanie Mills & More)
“I don’t apologize!” probably should’ve been the name of her 80’s hit. I know, I know, Auntie Anita has given us years of smooth ballads transcending generations that you, your kids, and your kid’s kids will be singing long in the wee hours, however given the recent debacle between the Quiet Storm superstar and music icon Kenneth ‘Babyface’ Edmonds we don’t think a certain sector of the hopeless romance crowd will be running to plug Anita in their playlists anytime soon. When headliner babyface alerted his fans via social media on a May show of Anita’s ongoing ‘The Songstress’ tour citing Anita’s need of ‘space & time’ for his absence the people wanted to know what was the reason?! So when Anita had announced that Babyface was booted from the tour all together a few weeks later, oh best believe the fans were hot! The sudden decision prompted a surge of past tussles with not only babyface, but other artists to be disclosed and well, let’s just say no one should be surprised by Anita’s not so sudden rational behavior.
I saw her in concert once. When she didn't get the response from the crowd, she wanted, she rudely walked off stage. Never again will I ever go to her concerts. So disrespectful.
I mean, she does deserve a standing O
@@Ishbikes We don’t bend kiss butt for rude behavior. Happens way to much in the black community
@@erictalbert4633 Then apply that ideology for everyone in the community.
It's sad but the sister has bipolar
@@Ishbikes poor showmanship
I saw her in Los Angeles in 2004. She seemed fine, and I greatly enjoyed the concert. There were no issues that night.
Same here. I saw her at Radio City in 2020 just before the lockdown.
Rick James called her the B Name in his Book. That is bold to put that in a book
Anita Baker has a powerful voice even at age 65 but what good is it when her attitude sucks ?? She mistreats her fans apparently which is inherently wrong as they were the ones who put her on the map . She's about as bigoted as they come too . Forget it if you're white you have no chance with her whatsoever. I watched her receive flowers and as she moved off stage she dumped them in the trash because she didn't need flowers from white trash . Well that was a twelve year old little boy who happens to be my brother and he was beyond crushed . Forgiven yes but I will never forget ever the look on his face . Kindness goes a long way Ms. Baker and so does karma .
😮😢 That’s awful. 😞
I am heart broke to know that happened to your brother. Wow.
When did this happen?
Actually, her deal with Lucifer put her on the map but go on . . .
What's your brother's name.
LOADS OF BACK-END MISCONDUCT WOULD BE CAUSING HER REACTIONS. IMAGINE YOU ARE A TOP TALENT AND 'THE MANAGEMENT/PROMOTERS' ARE GETTING PAID AND YOU ARE NOT. SECRETS ARE MANY. THE EMOTIONS ARE HARD TO HIDE.
I used to be a huge Bald Headed Anita Baker fan from my teens, even when my peers mocked me for listening to 'old people's' music, and developed my alto voice by listening to her music despite being a classical soprano. I was thrilled when she came to my native Nigeria 🇳🇬 for a few shows, but her behaviour there was horrible. Such a shame.
I remember in Fall 1991 She was suppose to tour with Luther but it qas said Luther said he couldn't put with her Diva antics… That tour woulda been something serious…
I remember
I don’t care what anyone says about Anita. She’s be through many different eras in the music business and survived. She’s going to be forever ❤
Exactly I was waiting for a comment like yours❤❤❤
Anita started taking the Audience for granted in the early 90s after she became famous‼️
I saw Anita Baker in 94 and oh lord I was so excited.
Gladys Knight and Anita Baker were touring together‼️
Gladys was the opening act and oh how magnificently Gladys Knight performed. 🌹🌹
Then came Anita Baker, I prayed to hear my favorite Baker song "No one in the World"
Don't you know this heffer stopped singing and started asking the entire audience what songs they wanted to hear.
Only to later on have the Audience sing her songs.
I didn't want to hear the audience singing‼️
I vowed never to go to another Anita Baker Concert again.
That show was the Gladys Knight Show.
I really enjoy Anita Bakers records, but not her concerts
No wonder she's aged so terribly
I went to a show in the early 80's in Maryland. I was so excited to see her, and she was the only performer. Small theater in the round, and we had seats in 2nd row! She started singing, and stopped almost immediately so she could say something to the sound people. She loudly cursed them out! I left and swore I would never purchase another album, nor see her in person. If she appears on TV, I don't hit "mute". I change the channel. I no longer give her any of my energy.
More songs for me
You saw her at Painters Mill
Well, Fran U can’t expect everyone to fart powdered sugar like U. And I’m sure Anita’s holed up in her hovel crying cuz U “swore “ that U’d never purchase another album of hers. How’s the air up there? U know what actually happening is Anita’s making more music, singing her hits, cursing out fools, kicking Babyface ( what name for a grown ass man!) off her tour and not missing or thinking about U at all, Fran.💩
Just saw her a few days ago in the year 2023. The worst show Ive ever attended. An hour and a half late, complained about the sound the whole time. Great voice, love her songs, but try to see her live? Never again.
@@electricwarbaby1 Yes, that's right.
I remember about 1988 I went to see the late great Sarah Vaughan at The Blue Note in NYC. Just before Vaughan came out Anita Baker & her husband came in & saw the great seats by the stage & she demanded our seats!! She tried to get me & the people sitting at our table moved!! The manager of The Blue Note came out & told her that there were seats in the back of the club & if those weren't to her liking, she could leave.
Now, I'm observing all this & how such a tiny person could create such havoc. As she walked away I said loud enough for Anita to hear, " I was never a fan. She probably came here to take notes & copy the great Sarah Vaughan." People laughed & very shortly, Vaughan's show began.
But, yes, that incident showed me that Anita Baker is a 💩
And I'm STILL not a fan🤣🤣😂
Attended several of her concerts in Philly during the eighties, same disgusting behavior. She argued with the sound people in the middle of her performance. The audience had to remind her who paid those tickets. I would not spend another dime to see her perform ever.
Has it ever occurred to you that sound issues were affecting her performance? 😒😒 And she wanted to give her best? If I’m giving a concert and sound issues are ruining the experience for the audience, I’d be upset too.
No,sound issues shouldn't matter people respect those who respect themselves.
@@KeishaGray-n2y So you would rather have sounds issue to continue while performing in front an audience. Got it 😒
@@cherylmonae1987The point is.... you can ask your sound staff to fix issues WITHOUT berating them. Use your 🧠
@@Morning404 She didn’t berate them .
Jill scott is the last person on earth to argue with 😂 she do not play.
Being from Detroit, I know of how mean spirited she is. She is a great singer, but not such a great person to be around.
I saw @iamanitabaker for her Rapture tour. I was so excited to see her live. Like most other stories on here, apparently there was something going on with the sound. Where I was sitting I could see back stage in the right side. She was singing, stopped, went back stage and it looked like Solange in the elevator. The only thing she didn't do was throw hands but the way she was acting you would have thought that was coming. Seeing that behavior made me listen to her A LOT less.
Karma never forgets, and she'll wonder why her life is falling apart. But all of us who've witnessed her behavior will know why.
Did Anita Baker herself tell you her life is falling apart? Are you apart of Anita Baker’s staff or team to state that?
@cherylmonae1987 why are there so many angry women up here? Telling everyone who has had an experience regarding Anita Baker that were horrible people for sharing. Y'all all need to go sit down in church and pray to God that you learn how to let people express themselves. Let's see
The Second Amendment!!!!
BYE GURL BYE
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@@cherylmonae1987 do you defend Anita over all facts and witness accounts??Why? People got receipts. That’s what this is all about
@@erictalbert4633 Ok, and? I got receipts too, especially on her fellow peers who always have animosity towards Anita Baker .
@@cherylmonae1987anita baker stan detected.
Anita is actually from Toledo Ohio. She claims Detroit because Toledo folks treated her so bad & claimed she had no singing voice. Once she proved them wrong she really became a "Diva". Very difficult on purpose.
All these people justifying this behavior because she has talent is ridiculous. If that’s the case Robert Kelly’s talent should give him a pass to piss on who he pleases. The picking and choosing is ridiculous
You bringing up R. Kelly’s situation has no comparison to Anita Baker. Two different scenarios.
Exactly 💯
You don’t get out in jail just for having a bad personality. Those are two different levels of problem. And includes MANY who’ve been in the entertainment business over its history.
Anita Baker is mean. R Kelly is a rapist. How did Anita Baker affect your life??????
I think it's sad cause shes a great singer why anita why
the way anita approached Miki Howard- she would have never approached Whitney Houston like that!!! It would have been a rumble in the backstage area. LOL
Right! Whitney was too Jersey for that 🤣
You could see how rude she was from the start. Look at her “ One. Night Of Rapture” concert vid from 1987. A fan threw her a flower as she walked offstage, she picked it up and threw it back.
Who can say anything to Baker she a legend there will ne no other legends after them ones.
I went to her show @ the "FrontRow" theater in Cleveland, Ohio. She was off the hook then..
I really hate to hear of her ‘tude. She is such a beautiful lady and I love many of her songs. In the end though, beauty doesn’t matter, it’s how you treat people. When an entertainer has the attitude like “I got here all on my own”, and forgets that although she has talent, it’s the fans that put you where you are, well they soon find out how important the fans really are. If all this is true, I’m disappointed in you Anita.
Way back in the 1980s, social media for us black folks was whatever part of Jet, Essence, or Ebony magazine that published letters from subscribers.
I remember reading letters about how mean Ms. Anita was to fans she met on the street, grocery store, airport, etc.
Back in the 80's, Anita Baker performed at the Mann Music Center in Philly. One of the maintenance guys was so excited to see her during the meet and greet. He walked up to her and told her how much of a fan he was. She was so rude to him, and told her assistant to "Keep these damn people away from her".
😮😢
Thats why I am afraid to meet anyone famous. If Kate Bush did that to me, it would literally destroy me.
My goodness! She needs JESUS!
I don't blame Ms Baker.
Stephanie Mills also? I never would have thought.
Stephanie Mills has a history of being difficult to work with as well. But people not ready for that conversation though.
@@cherylmonae1987Really? Wow, I never knew that. Stephanie was one of my childhood crushes.
@@misterbee66 Yes. Don’t get me wrong, I still love Stephanie and her music. However, she too has diva imperfections that she wants to keep under wraps.
@@cherylmonae1987 I never knew. Thank you.
What are Stephanie's Imperfections? I would have never thought Stepanie?
I was rooting for her, when she got Her music royalties, I was sooo happy for Her, and then She announced Her tour, stop it, I was thinking she was about show People that She wasn’t that person anymore(we all have heard some kinda Anita horror story), NOT ( in Charlie Murphy voice), sounds like she’s even worse 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I will never give Anita baker any of my energy. NEVER. SHES A TRUE HAS BEEN DIVA
This is Fd up. I was in the 6th grade when Sweet Love dropped & have been a fan since. This woman stood in her own lane
YES, A VERY TALENTED AND SMOOTHING UNIQUE STYLE OF SINGING.. WE NEVER KNOW WHAT IS CAUSING SUCH OUTBURST...IT IS NOT THE AUDIENCE...IT IS SOMETHING GOING BEHIND THE CURTAINS!!!!
When you are putting on a show and people have payed money to come out to see you you should Leave your drama at home. Be professional.
Know for a fact she is evil. I once told her personal assistant to quit because all the stress is not worth it.
I seen Anita & george Duke in the 80s in ohio at the blossom. What a show!😊 great show!
...might as well add it here....I'm 62, and DJ'd a GREAT deal in my life.....I played at MANY restaurants, Clothing stores, Fashion events...I even did Kanye's "Graduation" Album release Party! ...and....SO MANY GAY (white) MEN told me about Anita's 'Diva' ways..for YEARS! ...They're not even her 'core' audience, so, they couldn't ALL be lying......
I never met the woman, but, once I was working as a piano player at the St. Regis Hotel in Detroit (for about a year) and she sat about three-foot from my piano bench one night (for at least an hour) and she seemed to purposely kind of avoid making eye contact. Most musicians, singers, etc. acknowledge each other. I mean, it was actually weird. Aretha Franklin would come in there pretty often and she would always say hello...asked me for requests, etc. I could tell she kind of a diva...and not a diva in a good way. She ain't overly friendly......lol...I promise. I really like her voice, but, years later that's why I Googled "Is Anita Bake unfriendly". I knew the answer but, hey, it's late and I had nuttin else to do.😃 Oh well, like I said, she's got a great voice...in my opinion. I wouldn't wanna be stuck in an elevator with the woman.
😂😂😂
Keep in mind Anita Baker is only 4'11 and i would presume that her being 'the boss' and so small in stature people would thibk they cann treat her a certain way. This doesn't dismiss her behavior but i could imagine the level of disrespect she receives in the industry.
Facts
I thought of that too, because folk will try the pint size people
I met her myself and she is not what people think....
Anita is still and will always be my favorite female singer. I don't care about this hate video. All of these stars went through tons of crap we didn't know of just to make it in this cut throat industry. Many stars turn to drugs just to survive. Many have died from said drugs.
Y'all need to stop that BS calling people auntie as a term of disrespect. One day you're going to get that age and you don't want nobody disrespecting you calling you auntie. All of those artists have attitudes she ain't the first and she won't be the last.
That's right
i love the duet him and Cheryl lynn did together if this world were mine
The Shaper wear commercial is soooo misleading. You had a BBL. Women lets learn to love our beautiful natural bodies.
I can't believe I did not know Luther had a book.
If that’s the case Anita Baker can aspect to lose a lot of fans and people not wanting to go see her in concerts because of her behavior or attitude towards her fans or people in general.
I'm not sure if her plans have since changed. But as of 2020 when I saw her at Radio City just before the lockdown, she was calling that her farewell tour. Obviously since covid and now with inflation out of control, people aren't splurging on concert tickets like they were. And speed at which information travels now she'd be a fool to continue acting like this and expect us to continue supporting her. I love her music always will. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna spend give or take $100 and be disrespected or see her disrespect someone else.
I met her back in her heyday. At the Aladdin hotel. In Las Vegas. Omg. She was a diva. Will never c her again. This was like 1987.
Thats why i love the emotions always professional
Babyface also owes some artists money
Artists are temperamental and emotional, plus the entertainment biz is ego city. Nothing big said about her. Real A-holes: JJ (From Good Times), Spike Lee.
It seems like the bigger the talent, the bigger the attacks. Trashing people with a great gift is so common these days. The more original you are, the sharper the hits. It's why they had to get Jay Leno off the Tonight Show, so that mediocre acts could survive. So common for people to trash the Beatles the way Quincy Jones did for being "terrible musicians" Have to assume the same is true for Anita Baker. We all know who the real nasty prima donnas are in show biz. Barbara Streisand, Gwyneth Paltrow, Chevy Chase, Bill Murray, Britney Spears- people like that
Did Anita Baker do a song with Rick James? That would have been fantastic and remarkably great.
Alot of black celebrities are like that. Im from California and trust me they are nothing like the image they portray. Saw years ago queen latifa at a restaurant called aunt kissys back porch in marina del ray we saw her waiting for her sclass Mercedes. We called out her name and she turned her nose up at us. This was a long time ago and ive never listened to nor watch anything she’s In.
Queen was aggressive back then I'm not surprised.
@@TheHeat205Network Like any other lesbo!!
Lmfao, its not just black celebrities bozo, many celebrities in general are way different from what they portray to the public. Ellen? James Corden? Johnny Depp? Why play the race card?
Her name is Martha Wash….not Marsha 😒
Sadly, she’s not the only singer with huge talent and really are terrible people in real life...Prince anyone...
What did Prince do? I know he didn't want The Time to be bigger than him, let alone firing Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis from the band although the production duo went to mass success after the fact.
Prince was strange
Prince treated women like garbage and made sure everyone knew it. He was over rated, overpriced and not that good. In fact, he was a detestable person and his "music" was sh*t. Remember Vanity, Sinead O'Connor, Sheena Easton, his girlfriends? They all said he was a real A-hole who respected nobody but himself.
Does anyone know about when Anita baker and Cheryl Lynn had a issue on Twitter and then Cheryl Lynn left Twitter did she leave because of anita????
Yup
WOW!
THAT Luther Vandross?? How many Luther Vandrosses are there?
Well, you know, Mickey Howard, she's not a nice girl either. I recall a time in California. I took a friend of mine who's a percussion playeah over to her house so they can rehearse and I brought him over there and I said hello to her and you know that Heifer didn't say hello to me I turned around and left him and got in my car and left because she wasn't, she wasn't nice either. I don't know about Anita Baker but I know Dinah Ross this girl She's nice either like I said I don't know about Anita Baker. But I didn't know them too, you say hello to them. They looked you in the face and don't say nothing. I looked at them slaves and turned around and walked away from sleep
I think she is bipolar
That could be a possibility never really thought about it from that aspect before. Because of me, & perhaps many other of her Fans are just simply caught up in the Rapture 🤔❓️⁉️
Funny you should say that. A lady I used to work with here in the south, is from Detroit. She told me back then that Anita Baker is on medication…
@@darrylthomas2664, She is bipolar and has massive anxiety. She's on medication but that's no excuse for her deplorable behavior.
I'm not surprised about her being bipolar
@@joyrising1726 LOL thats why she is on medication. Her behavior could have been the end of her through her singing. Its absolutely and excuse. Do you throw trans under the bus who did nothing for you????? They are medicated. SO the medication argument goes out the door.
WOW I had no idea she was like this. No shame whatsoever.
Hahahahahahahahha! “ No shame”💩🤡
No she feels no shame😂
Two legends I love ❤️. Sorry won't shade Auntie 'Nita! Babyface, soundtrack to my teens!❤. Both in my Playlist!😊
I love Anita Baker
Anita has the voice of a demigod.
????
And the attitude of a Demon
🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🕵️
Lmao 😂
I don't really like her voice
I’m so sad to read these stories. I’ve loved her since I was a kid and imagined her as a sweet, dignified lady. 😢
You forgot the album from 1983 with the song, That was my childhood girlfriend, love AB
She's very fortunate in that her fans are faithful. She needs to start being nice. She's had a reputation for years.
I Who Have Nothing with Martha Wash was absolutely perfect with her vocals. She did that song justice.
1:57 THAT comment explains EVERYTHING... Assignment received 👍🏽
“ AXED” BABYFACE?? AXXXXXEEEEEDDDD BABYFACE? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wow! Deep because without the fans, there's no Stardom. Seeing people out in the audience enjoying the concert is what makes an artist. They've worked hard and made great efforts to see them. This is a sad report. 😔 This is so odd because one of my Co-workers just went to her concert and gave a bad rating. This is Dec of 2023. However, This is the final concert tours right? Possibly time throw the towel in. Just focus on small sets and other things. Retirement time. But it's a bad deal to leave your fans with a ugly turn out on your final tour.
Shes got a beautiful voice and was lovely in the 80s but im learning she's quite the tyrant. I wouldn't see her in concert now anyway.
Interesting information but as a music fan I have to focus solely on the artists performances, I don't have the energy or desire to track and condemn them on their personal lives, if I did, I'd have a decidedly short playlist. Very short.
6:12 exactly
RUclips every time you come with your message saying that I said something wrong when I did not online instead of harassing somebody when I'm not just give me more evidence to make sure that your app is took down you will never be able to post anything again RUclips we're done with your behavior
I am sorry but I don't believe this.
NO!!! JILL NEVER GOT “AXED”! SHE’S STILL WITH US!
sometimes she looks flat out drunk
Anita can sing, let's remember we all have unloving actions that can be attributed to being 'bitchy'!?!
“What We Do In This Life, Will Echo In Eternity” Celebrities are just people, but we expect them to be something else. Don’t be surprised if your favorite celeb is an a-hole. You are the one who put them on a pedestal 🤷🏾♂️
I think her paying customers deserve to enjoy drama free great singing from the singer that they spent their money on 💯
@@Chares-ym8gw Apple Music, or Spotify🤷🏾♂️
Leave Anita alone smh
About 2/3 months ago i saw Ms. Baker in Los Angeles performing and it was an amazing performace. She performed about 3 hours straight. She is a true legend. I would love to see her again. ❤
How many people care about a singer with two hits from the 80s
Shes a Professional. People today dont know what that is.
She's got to be very miserable in her personal life and no amount of money or success can gloss over what she is as a person.
I went to Dallas concert, and she turned it out!!!
Go Anita!!
Playing devils advocate. I think from Anita's perspective, she is a small black woman in an industry that preys on artists and the weak. She probably had to build up a tough persona to survive out here 🤷🏿♂️
I understand that. But you gotta keep those bridges strong within our community so that when those indistry predators bite, you have that safety net to support you. The same walls we build to protect ourselves are the same walls that keep people away. We shouldnt shut everyone out.
She was taken advantage of from producers when she first came out. When she did her second album she took charge from there. Not mention her childhood was rough. Anita has been through a lot.
STOP ALL ANITA SLANDER PERIOD
Tell her to stop being an arrogant mean person.
@@tmackalicious4552Bingo
@@tmackalicious4552Stop acting like she’s the only arrogant person.
@cherylmonae1987 darling if you have something to say just say it. I'm Gen X and we don't give fu(ks. Tata for now.
@@tmackalicious4552 I don’t care what generation you are from. Speak for yourself. Who is “we”? You’re not the spokesperson for everybody.
She did fine when she came to Los Angeles 12-22-23 I didn't want to see Babyface anyway.....
Why did we care if she had her masters.
Frankly i'd rather stick to the music.. just like it was.. before youtube
I've heard stories regarding Anita being rude and nasty for no good reason going back to the 80's...... But I learned as a kid in the 80's, there is always 2 sides to every story n somewhere in the middle is the truth. However, I will say the whole Babyface thing could have been handled better. He is no more responsible for the actions of his fans than she is for hers & how do you distinguish between the 2? Babyface handled it with grace and dignity, wished her well and kept it moving...
I forgot Baby Face made a song with her….
I love Anita's music, but her personality sound nasty.
Anita let's the audience sing her songs in concerts nowadays. She just limps across the stage and talks and complains to the band members and the back up singers and she sounds terrible. Anita is 65 now and a mess!
PLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSSSSEEEEE DONT “AX” MIKKI HOWARD!!! SHE HASNT DONE ANYTHING TO U!!!
Sicka her ! Come for Kenneth Brian Edmonds again 👏🏾
Nothing major was said about Anita.
This is called human behavior! Everybody has pros and cons!
Also she's from Detroit 😂
Facts!! Salute Anita
What dose her being from Detroit has to do with anything. People like her are from all walks of life and all over the world.
Rudeness is rudeness we don’t give excuses for talent and clout.
She's from Toledo, Ohio. It's next door to Detroit.
No. She's from Toledo. She grew up in Detroit.
Anita Baker knows how dirty the business is. She is just protecting her self !
Word to the wise: don't let me overhear one of you shallow ones without talent, creativity, substance, success, fortitude, wisdom, discernment, etc.. STOP. judging, criticizing, insulting, derogatory names; reachin' jealous, bigots, full of self hatred, no esteem, life. Just so you know: Ms. Anita Baker is a grown women, and no she will not settle or be abused; she is simply the best
So cussing out stage crew. Bailing out on shows hours before. And stealing money is ok...
Anita may have been wrong for what she said to Miki but technically she was right, in the sense that she never did win another Soul Train award.
But Miki had a better singing voice than Anita. Anita's singing sounds like she's singing while yawning.
@@robinfun2123 I do not disagree with that. She did win 🏆 1 only however. You are right.
Ya mean *Soul Train ?
@@Official_Kings_Versus Thanks.
@@robinfun2123 Anita can definitely sing, she does not sound like that. Lol.
Ok thanks for the fyi I or anyone I know will ever waste time on her in any capacity
"Marsha" Wash? Lol.
I don't feel anything about Anita Baker but I do know one thing people don't forget when you are rude and nasty to them. Now Anita Baker has Social media to contend with and Social media doesn't forget. Anita Baker will go down in history as been one of the nastiest artists people have seen or work with.
She’s a singer not a philanthropist or mother Theresa yall corny
I worked as a Wardrobe Attendant for over 20 yrs Without the backstage crew Concerts and Shows wouldn't go on That being sad there is no need to treat people that way I also understand that Stars have bad days but so does the crew Being appreciative and respectful goes a long way
She is wrong. I remember the Babyface story coming across my timeline. He wasn’t the headliner, she was. Babyface’s fans were the problem, and she handled them. She cut him from her tour, because of his disrespectful fans, and he understood.
That's not the first time she done this, and it won't be the last