I normally use a little hinged pattern jig and trace it out. Then I cut it with either a torch or a plasma. That or if it is nothing to critical I just eyeball it
@@jvmiller1995congratulations, the technique demonstrated in this video is for someone that doesn’t have all those tools available……chopsaw, soapstone, and straight edge only.
@@MrIgottap No shit! A stated the exact thing above. I was not suggesting go buy tools. I having all the tools will still be doing this in the future. I was impressed
55 years old and I learn every day! Thanks for sharing a truly great idea! Knowledge passed on is our legacy as blue collar working Americans! Thank you!
Me 4, and im 42. At this age, people are still pretty hard headed, at least the people I know. I like to learn everyday, but everyone, and i mean just about everyone I know, are stuck thinking they know everything. I dont know if it usually gets worse or better with age. I hope the latter
I not only want to express my gratitude for this educational video but, moreover to you and your fellow farmers. You are the backbone of society. 🙏👍💪 Thank you for your hard work.
I can appreciate a good skill. Buy the appropriate tool. It's called the saddle notcher. As much time as you wasted making that thing. Lol. You could do it with a saddle nacho in about 15 seconds!!
I'm always amazed by the ingenuity of farmers. They are some of the brightest people around. Their skills and talent come out of necessity, they need to be mechanics, carpenters, veterinarians, doctors and fabricators. Remember people, without men and women like this young man, we don't eat.
And without the truck drivers that haul the crops we dont eat either, along with those that drive the tractors, load it onto trains, bankers that loan the farmers money, used car salesmen that help provide transportation to get to the corn feild to work, and the rest of us that do it so people can eat, mainly the people sitting across the dinner table, just like the farmer. People work for the money, farmers and cops. If they didnt do it someone else would. Jus saying
Thanks for that comment! Most the time farmers and rancher are too poor to have someone else do it for them so we just end up figuring out how to do it ourselves haha
The work ethic, ingenuity, self-reliance and prudent financial management demonstrated by many country folks makes me think that these are the people we need as politicians and public servants. I know I don't need to say any more than this on the subject.
This is epic. Ive coped pipe for year and years. I first started coping with a torch, then moved on to using a plasma. Today ive traded those both in for a chop saw. One tip i have if your using seamed pipe is using the factory seam as the straight line for your copes. If using DOM tubing or anything without a seam your way is how i do it too.
Your chop saw technique is wonderful . That bevel that is created by the chop saw , as you say gives wonderful extra space for the weld material . Good video .
@@LuthiRanchWY you ought to show these boys you can do alot more than a 90 branch by using a base angle and a calculated angle, as opposed to symmetrical cuts.
I was watching this video and then my neighbour came and we watched it together. He said that this video changed his life and touched his heart. I then went and rented a projector in a big field and all my villagers watched it and it changed their lives too. We all are so grateful. Thank you for this video!
@@ChefKevinRiese I wouldn't call the drill pipe he was using thin stock. You watch TV guys use those hole saw cope cutters and they make it look easy. Creative editing. I think they may be the only good way to do angles other than 90 degrees though.
How do you even come to the conclusion this is the best way. It’s cool, really clean. But twice the time as a torch. Also only will work for pipe sitting on a table. Still need a torch for cutting your post.
@@ChefKevinRiese The point to take away is that most people with the ability to weld already have or can justify sending the money on a chop saw. But unless you are welding a lot of round tubing this is the way to go. If you are arguing the absolute easiest way you can think of and money is not of factor then the easiest would be a 4 axis CNC plasma.
I never said anything about this being the best and only way to saddle pipe. It has its limitations. It would be hard to do if you are trying to fit up any joint other than ones at 90 degrees and you would have to figure out different angles if you are trying to join pipe of different diameters. It’s another way to do something and I believe in having more than one way to skin a cat. I would argue though that it makes the prettiest and best fit up
I'm 58 yrs old, and this seems like it should be taught in elementary school it's so basic !!! Thanks for sharing 🙏 it... God bless and getter done !!!
Very slick!...30 plus years under the hood and never seen this method. Thank you for your time and efforts to bring us this video. God bless and be safe.
welder/fabricator for about 10 years now, never seen someone do it this way but this works great if a chopsaw is what you have to work with! definitely going to remember this
Well done. Thanks for sharing. Good to see you judging things “by eye”. As a tradesman fitter I was initially trapped in the idea that we had to use special mathematical methods and measuring equipment to do certain operations. This slowed me down and caused stress. When I eventually realised that my work would mostly be judged by others “by eye”, I began to use my own “by eye” judgement more. I think this helped me work faster and things became more relaxed and enjoyable. Best wishes from New Zealand.
Thanks for the comment! Glad the video was helpful. What part of New Zealand are you from? I did a walk about there about 10 years ago, beautiful country!
@@StephenCooteNZ I’ve been to Nelson! I passed through there on my way down to backpack in Nelson Lakes National Park. I’m pretty sure I watched an All Blacks rugby World Cup game there. They had set up a big projector in the city park or somewhere like that and watched it with the whole town it felt like haha
@@LuthiRanchWY Small world !. My great-grandparents on my father's side (the Blechynden family) used to own a lot of the flatter land around Lake Rotoiti in the Nelson Lakes National Park. I remember an uncle telling me that they sold it to the Parks Board for ten shillings (about $1) per acre. That same uncle had a small cabin near the lake. I stayed there with him a couple of times and we reloaded ammunition and went hunting in Big Bush on the low hills behind his cabin. I saw him shoot a big red deer with one shot from an old Winchester .32-20 within walking distance of his cabin. Interestingly, your physical appearance reminds me of that Uncle's son.
@@StephenCooteNZ It would be a nice place for a cabin! I want to bring my wife back to New Zealand with me one of these years and try and see some more of the sights maybe do some fishing.
Necessity is the mother of invention. I've cut a few saddles myself, but always used a torch. This is far superior and faster. I love watching videos when people like you show easy methods which makes the task completed in a workmanship manner and fast.
I used to work in a metal fabrication shop and was never shown this method of cutting saddles in pipe, thanks for this demo it will come handy to me in the future.
Dang feller! That's a pretty slick trick. And the saw is right on time too! I don't have to cope pipe much but this is the only way to do it in my opinion. I have a Makita chop saw that's about 16 years old and about on its last leg. It's been a goodun! Gonna get the saw and the Diablo blade this weekend. Thank you sir for the video.
It looks like a clean cut saddle! I wish I had saw this when I started my feedline. I finally ended up using some sleeves from Macksteel that slide over your pipe and make a perfect saddle. They have been great! And they saved me hours of cutting
Terrific video and very interesting commentary. I'm a sole proprietor handyman with multiple skills, a college education, and good high school math education. I figure things out myself and this man did a real good job of figuring it out. Nothing replaces basic intelligence, willingness, and effort, but acquiring mathematical knowledge related to the task will always help in new projects.
For those wondering where the angle comes from: it's just a number that works well for this diameter and thickness... The angle will be about 25 degrees for this case: 10cm diameter, 3 cm wall thickness It's just a number that works for the dimensions he's using This is a tradeoff between 1/ approximating the outer diameter of the tube, with the inner curve of the cut (which is an ellipse , project in the right plane) 2/ the amount of grinding he's doing at 5:05 3/ the geometry that's he comfortable welding (shape / size of the chamfer) There is no formula for this The only case that fits perfectly with no grinding, is : thickness of the wall = 0, angle = 45 degrees. This is just a mathematical problem equivalent to approximating a circle arc with an ellipse arc of different radii, and center, this is not trivial.
Now dude, you just took a great idea for the common man that likes to fix stuff or build stuff and put a Sheldon Cooper remark to it. Just say "it's a pretty cool trick" and thank the man for sharing it.
@@brucehayes5111 I appreciate the OP's technical remarks. In fact, I wonder if there is in fact a universal formula that can be used for all (or most) common pipe sizes and wall thicknesses, which can then be used to make a table for quick reference. Or, for simplicity, disregard wall thickness and expect grinding in all cases. The common man may not be aware of geometry and the different angles required for different diameters of pipes, and simply following this video's 32⁰ - 33⁰ cut for any and all sizes can result in disaster. Those who don't like additional information can simply ignore it. At the least, be aware that one angle doesn't fit all. I thank the channel for the great tip and clear video, and the OP for the additional information.
@@liuj88 This has only just come up on my feed, so I have not had time to give it much thought, but I'm pretty sure that a good mathematician could derive a formula that could be applied to any pipe of any diameters(s) and angles. There will be a linear geometrical relationship between the variables and therefore they can be represented mathematically. Just like the tables of "Bend Allowances" cater for all angles, radii and sheet thickness.
stumbled on this video by accident. been using 2 7/8 oil pipe around the ranch for years and have always struggled with this very thing. absolutely awesome tip. thanks!
Haha all my oil field buddies give me a hard time about calling it by the wrong name also. Everyone around here just knows it as drill pipe. It’s marketed, sold and labeled as drill pipe here and the surrounding states.
@@LuthiRanchWY go look at Drill pipe on a drilling rig. Then come back and tell me that thin walled stuff is the same. Drill pipe is at least 2X thicker if not more. Probably more like 3 - 4 X as thick if memory serves me. It's a HUGE difference i know that. And I'm talking wall thickness not diameter. 2-3/8 & 2-7/8 is considered Production pipe in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi I know for sure. Which is where I worked for 14 years. I thought maybe you had something heavier that was strictly for drilling. But when I seen its thickness it didn't look different to me. Most everyone calls it oilfield pipe or Tubing.
I really don't care what type of pipe it is. all I know is when I got home, I went out to the bone pile, found some pipe, and cut a piece for no other reason than to see if it would be that simple.. it was. thanks for the videos!
Good work. I've used this method before and it's a great alternative if you don't have a oxy rig, plasma or tubing notcher (working with DOM tubing etc.). Like you've said, there are other faster methods but not everyone has those options but the job was still done.
I am 76 and always try to learn something new. I am impressed young man in what I learned on this video. And I wish you all the best in your farming endeavor.
New to your channel and enjoying your videos, got turned on to your videos from Farmer Tyler Ranch and happy he did. Coming from a family of welders, I'm still interested in welding projects even though I sucked at welding and didn't follow in their steps. Love watching you and Tyler fabricate pipe projects, keep up the great work "Red"
Hey thanks for the comment! I’ll have to tell Tyler thanks for the shoutout. I’m hoping to do a few more welding projects and make a few more welding videos this fall once we slow down from farming and cows. Take care!
Sometimes the genius is in simplicity. Well done, learn something new every day. If you think about it, you likely educated hundreds of thousands of people across the world with this one six minute video. That's some real feel-good karma dude. Thanks for sharing! :)
If the size is the same, no if you're going to larger post than the diameter of the horizontal it flattens. It also depends on the diameter of your posts as the the angle to make your cuts.
I use a Diablo blade on my saw. It does a really good job. Thanks for the video. That is a very simple but clever way to do the job. I have a tube notcher but this method is much simpler and easier.
hey brother that's an incredible way to do it I'm a pipe fitter and I seen pipefitters struggle with the saddles as long as I've been pipefitting but I never seen it so fast and so easy the way I saw it today I guess I simply want to express my gratitude thanks
There used to be an option to Save these videos. I can no longer figure out how to do that. If anyone knows how, I’d appreciate the help! I truly appreciate a professional sharing his skills with the rest of us! My hat is off to you sir!
Very cleaver idea! In the 70's I worked in a steel fab shop making miles of safety railing in 20' lengths. They had a hand shear to cope the ends that honestly was only a little faster. Thankfully I ha a helper cutting an prepping the pieces while I jigged the sections up and welded them. Brought back good memories!
I’m aged like other commenters here but I’m commenting on the creator. For the first fugging time, and I have watched thousands plus hours of videos and this seems to be the first time a content creator points up and says link and holy ship would you believe it? There’s a fardgin link there!!! Fracking good on you mate! That got you a like and subscribe. I’m serious, they point to links and nothing there, like ever! Good job man and on top of that I learned something new! Thanks. BTW I know I am late, but it’s never too late to learn something new! 👍
Dammit. Been wasting dozens of hours marking and grinding. And here a chop saw does all the work. Thank you. Ive been in the industry for lots of years and only now learn of this. Granted, i never had a cold saw. No flex in the blade.
Excellent way to saddle up pipe. I've been working with metal for 55+years , this looks like the best way I've seen. I want to go out to my garage now & fire up the chop saw. I won't though, it's 1:30 AM. Thanks for sharing your knowledge & this video.
I've cut saddles for 30 years, don't even have to mark anything any more just eyeball it, roll the torch and hit the tips w/ a grinder. But I have been dieing to do more precise and frankly healthier and cleaner cuts w/ the new blades. Blade tech has come so far in the past 10 years and its reasonably affordable now. Glad I found this video, I really enjoyed it, thanks for sharing. :)
I feel the integrity .thanks for the video . I'm impressed with your attitude and your demeanor and you got right to it when you were teaching how to make the cuts on the pipe it was plain and simple short and straight if I could give you 10 10 stars I would give you 10 stars thank you so much sir I needed to see this and I'm 60 years old and I guess it takes a hard working man to receive a hard-working man I reckon
Great video! Always tell your sons how special it is to be boys! Good boys! Good boys grow up to be good men like this guy. Men built absolutely everything you see, especially all the comforts women enjoy! Boys are awesome!
It seems impossible to cut a straight line and it will fit a round pipe but it works every time. It works for horizontal and vertical joints. It is the strongest and neatest joint out there. Thank you for the excellent video. A speed square with a level in it will give perfect alignments.
Great job nice even cuts. Glad I found this because I am going to use try this technique for 4-6 inch round peeled logs for light structures or log fencing or cribbing . It would work well with roundwood and even some plastics for the vertical post then saddle the horizontal plus it will look nicer . Thanks for tip .
That was awesome I done 45’s but that 32/33 is awesome with that weld lip penetration. Thanks for the awesome teachings. Nice spacey set up. Thank you for the all American farming!!!!
This is by far the simplest when I've seen online and just in time for a tube structure on building for a catamaran boat thanks brother I'm going to do this this way
I’ve been making a survey of all the techniques for this and this is the best I have seen. You’re over there working smarter and I’ve been busy working harder! Thanks for tip.
Thank you for show me the best and cheapest way to saddle pipe ! After watching you only thing i did different was to use a trisquare on the saw table and a magnetic level on the other end of the pipe to help make my cuts square worked great . I didnt have to mark my pipe that away but your saw has to be level . Thanks for the video
Sir ! You just saved me a couple a hundred dollars. I was thinking about buying a tube notcher, but with your technique and my Evolution steel chop saw, I guess I won't be needing it.
Thank you for sharing Sir. You just saved me a lot of time. I’m an electrician by trade but have a farm now as well with a couple hundred head of Charlois/Brahman. Only a pipe fence will hold them in. Been using a plasma cutter and doing a horrible job with pipe joints. Your method is so much better. Thanks again for sharing.
Well I’m 58 and learn everyday also and have used the chop saw method before numerous times but never quite got it right but now with the 32-33 degree angle I think I will get it right. Thank you.
Good grief, I've watched other videos that give what seems like complicated ways of making saddles on pipe. Your way is understandable, fast and that bevel for the weld is already there. Great job on the video. I'm going to look into that saw.
Like all things on a working ranch, being as productive as possible, with the tools to hand is the key to success. This is as professional a result, as you would have received, if you had hired it out. Thanks for an excellent, how to tip!
I’m having to make a bunch of corner and h braces using 2 3/8 pipe for my property , I had seen your video last year and remembered it so I looked and looked for it till I found it again! Thanks again for the pro tip ! I’ll be using. I’m going to use my Chalk line to mark my pipe instead of the angle iron
I've tried many time's never had much luck,32°~33° was all I was missing , big pill to swallow ,bein a 55 year old boilermaker, hats off to you .best time saver I've ever seen!☝🏻👌👌
Good info man. Thanks for that. I come from back in the cuttin' torch, the only way. I have a different job now but this is most impressive. My old chopsaw never knew it had it coming. As we used to say, I don't get paid by the hour. Time is money.
Been saddling pipe for 20 years, never heard of this. Beautiful work man 👍🏼
I normally use a little hinged pattern jig and trace it out. Then I cut it with either a torch or a plasma. That or if it is nothing to critical I just eyeball it
Thanks! One more way of doing it.
@@jvmiller1995congratulations, the technique demonstrated in this video is for someone that doesn’t have all those tools available……chopsaw, soapstone, and straight edge only.
@@MrIgottap No shit! A stated the exact thing above. I was not suggesting go buy tools. I having all the tools will still be doing this in the future. I was impressed
I learned this 40 years ago
55 years old and I learn every day! Thanks for sharing a truly great idea! Knowledge passed on is our legacy as blue collar working Americans! Thank you!
Thanks for the comment! I’m glad it was a helpful video.
I second this comment. "Learn something new everyday"!
Me too ... and I'm 65!
Me 3 and I'm 74!
Me 4, and im 42. At this age, people are still pretty hard headed, at least the people I know. I like to learn everyday, but everyone, and i mean just about everyone I know, are stuck thinking they know everything. I dont know if it usually gets worse or better with age. I hope the latter
Awesome, brother. At 76 years old, I’m still learning and growing. Thanks for sharing.
71, same here.
I'm an 85 yo newby urban minifarmer learning from guys like you every day.
Thanks for the comment! Glad the video was helpful! Good luck learning!
I've been welding pipe for 22 years and have never seen or heard of this, learned something new today, thank you for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
never learned in school?
@@dolmarf411 Some places in America sperate pipe fitting from pipe welding.
I not only want to express my gratitude for this educational video but, moreover to you and your fellow farmers.
You are the backbone of society. 🙏👍💪
Thank you for your hard work.
Thanks for the nice comment! Take care!
Thanks
I can appreciate a good skill. Buy the appropriate tool. It's called the saddle notcher. As much time as you wasted making that thing. Lol. You could do it with a saddle nacho in about 15 seconds!!
I like how it’s bevels it! I’m excited to try this out on a cart I’m working on. Thanks
I'm always amazed by the ingenuity of farmers. They are some of the brightest people around. Their skills and talent come out of necessity, they need to be mechanics, carpenters, veterinarians, doctors and fabricators. Remember people, without men and women like this young man, we don't eat.
It a great example of self reliance. On a ranch or farm you do everything yourself. Welder mechanic, hvac, plumbing, bricklayer, etc.
And without the truck drivers that haul the crops we dont eat either, along with those that drive the tractors, load it onto trains, bankers that loan the farmers money, used car salesmen that help provide transportation to get to the corn feild to work, and the rest of us that do it so people can eat, mainly the people sitting across the dinner table, just like the farmer. People work for the money, farmers and cops. If they didnt do it someone else would.
Jus saying
Amen !!
Thanks for that comment! Most the time farmers and rancher are too poor to have someone else do it for them so we just end up figuring out how to do it ourselves haha
The work ethic, ingenuity, self-reliance and prudent financial management demonstrated by many country folks makes me think that these are the people we need as politicians and public servants. I know I don't need to say any more than this on the subject.
Best video I have seen on a simple way to cut a saddle. Well done.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it.
60 years old, getting back into the passion I chased when I was a young man. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom,priceless. 🇺🇸
Thanks for you comment! Good luck
This is epic. Ive coped pipe for year and years. I first started coping with a torch, then moved on to using a plasma. Today ive traded those both in for a chop saw.
One tip i have if your using seamed pipe is using the factory seam as the straight line for your copes. If using DOM tubing or anything without a seam your way is how i do it too.
Thanks for the advice! I’ll have to look for that seem
This is exactly what I do all the time, too ✌️
That seam is a perfect help for aligning!
Your chop saw technique is wonderful . That bevel that is created by the chop saw , as you say gives wonderful extra space for the weld material . Good video .
the bevel is already there. its created by the pipe. round pipe, straight cut.
Thanks for the comment! Im glad it was helpful! It’s a good method for saddling pipe.
@@DieselRamcharger That bevel was created by the saw.
@@kirbylee57 lol.
@@LuthiRanchWY you ought to show these boys you can do alot more than a 90 branch by using a base angle and a calculated angle, as opposed to symmetrical cuts.
The angle iron marking tip is gold as well. Thumbs up on this video
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
Tradesmen sharing their knowledge never gets old… well done 👏👏👍
Never had a reason to saddle pipe, yet always saw them and wondered how they're done.
Rock on country boy !
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This video shows just what RUclips can excel at. Brilliant idea. Simple execution. Professionally presented with no waffle. Two thumbs up!
Thanks for that comment
I was watching this video and then my neighbour came and we watched it together. He said that this video changed his life and touched his heart. I then went and rented a projector in a big field and all my villagers watched it and it changed their lives too. We all are so grateful.
Thank you for this video!
Northern Virginia is not village
Haha well I’m glad it helped somebody out even if it wasn’t a whole village
Such a clean and simple method. Beats using an angle grinder any day of the week. Thanks for the share !!
That’s totally the BEST WAY to cope tubing!! Simple clean and quick 😊
Not really! They make a jig called joint jigger or something like that that used a hole saw. Its very good on thin stock.
@@ChefKevinRiese I wouldn't call the drill pipe he was using thin stock. You watch TV guys use those hole saw cope cutters and they make it look easy. Creative editing. I think they may be the only good way to do angles other than 90 degrees though.
How do you even come to the conclusion this is the best way. It’s cool, really clean. But twice the time as a torch. Also only will work for pipe sitting on a table. Still need a torch for cutting your post.
@@ChefKevinRiese The point to take away is that most people with the ability to weld already have or can justify sending the money on a chop saw. But unless you are welding a lot of round tubing this is the way to go. If you are arguing the absolute easiest way you can think of and money is not of factor then the easiest would be a 4 axis CNC plasma.
I never said anything about this being the best and only way to saddle pipe. It has its limitations. It would be hard to do if you are trying to fit up any joint other than ones at 90 degrees and you would have to figure out different angles if you are trying to join pipe of different diameters. It’s another way to do something and I believe in having more than one way to skin a cat. I would argue though that it makes the prettiest and best fit up
I'm 58 yrs old, and this seems like it should be taught in elementary school it's so basic !!!
Thanks for sharing 🙏 it... God bless and getter done !!!
Very slick!...30 plus years under the hood and never seen this method. Thank you for your time and efforts to bring us this video. God bless and be safe.
Thanks for the comment! Glad the video was helpful!
welder/fabricator for about 10 years now, never seen someone do it this way but this works great if a chopsaw is what you have to work with! definitely going to remember this
Great instructional video, thanks for your time and for not dragging this out into a 30 minute video.
Glad it was helpful!
Well done. Thanks for sharing. Good to see you judging things “by eye”. As a tradesman fitter I was initially trapped in the idea that we had to use special mathematical methods and measuring equipment to do certain operations. This slowed me down and caused stress. When I eventually realised that my work would mostly be judged by others “by eye”, I began to use my own “by eye” judgement more. I think this helped me work faster and things became more relaxed and enjoyable. Best wishes from New Zealand.
Thanks for the comment! Glad the video was helpful. What part of New Zealand are you from? I did a walk about there about 10 years ago, beautiful country!
@@LuthiRanchWY I'm from Nelson at the northern end of the South Island. You've got a beautiful and interesting country yourself.
@@StephenCooteNZ I’ve been to Nelson! I passed through there on my way down to backpack in Nelson Lakes National Park. I’m pretty sure I watched an All Blacks rugby World Cup game there. They had set up a big projector in the city park or somewhere like that and watched it with the whole town it felt like haha
@@LuthiRanchWY Small world !. My great-grandparents on my father's side (the Blechynden family) used to own a lot of the flatter land around Lake Rotoiti in the Nelson Lakes National Park. I remember an uncle telling me that they sold it to the Parks Board for ten shillings (about $1) per acre. That same uncle had a small cabin near the lake. I stayed there with him a couple of times and we reloaded ammunition and went hunting in Big Bush on the low hills behind his cabin. I saw him shoot a big red deer with one shot from an old Winchester .32-20 within walking distance of his cabin. Interestingly, your physical appearance reminds me of that Uncle's son.
@@StephenCooteNZ It would be a nice place for a cabin! I want to bring my wife back to New Zealand with me one of these years and try and see some more of the sights maybe do some fishing.
I have been fighting with a torch all these years...this is awesome.
You are a smart guy. Thanks for the idea.
Necessity is the mother of invention. I've cut a few saddles myself, but always used a torch. This is far superior and faster. I love watching videos when people like you show easy methods which makes the task completed in a workmanship manner and fast.
Thanks for the comment!
It looks a bloody good way of doing it to me and I'm definitely impressed with that blade as well
I can’t recommend these dry cut chop saws enough.
frkn genius.. I was a pipe fitter in the 90's and this could have saved a whole lot of time measuring, marking , cutting, beveling
I used to work in a metal fabrication shop and was never shown this method of cutting saddles in pipe, thanks for this demo it will come handy to me in the future.
I don't leave a lot of comments, but this was actually a really good video. Great job! Very impressive.
I appreciate that! Thanks for commenting
great ingenuity, Even at age 74 there is always new tricks to learn. We need more people like yourself in this country
Thanks! I appreciate that comment!
Dang feller! That's a pretty slick trick. And the saw is right on time too! I don't have to cope pipe much but this is the only way to do it in my opinion. I have a Makita chop saw that's about 16 years old and about on its last leg. It's been a goodun! Gonna get the saw and the Diablo blade this weekend. Thank you sir for the video.
I think you know, but in case you dont, it's spelled "fellow", not "feller". A feller cuts down trees. And "goodun" is spelled "gooden."
@@kirbylee57 you're right,I do know but what you don't know is that I'm from Tennessee and that's how we roll round here feller!
I’m glad the video was helpful. I hope you like your new saw!
I love how we can sharpen the blades ourselves too. I've been making outside steel storage rack as use your method to make the inground support racks.
That has to be the slickest method I have ever seen. Faster than anything I have seen too.
It looks like a clean cut saddle! I wish I had saw this when I started my feedline. I finally ended up using some sleeves from Macksteel that slide over your pipe and make a perfect saddle. They have been great! And they saved me hours of cutting
I’ve thought about sleeves before. Do you remember what they cost?
@Luthi Ranch I don't remember exactly, but I think it was well under $10 a piece last time. I'd have to call in and get an update to be sure though.
Terrific video and very interesting commentary. I'm a sole proprietor handyman with multiple skills, a college education, and good high school math education. I figure things out myself and this man did a real good job of figuring it out. Nothing replaces basic intelligence, willingness, and effort, but acquiring mathematical knowledge related to the task will always help in new projects.
Thanks for the nice comment
Thanks for sharing the nice video.
For those wondering where the angle comes from:
it's just a number that works well for this diameter and thickness...
The angle will be about 25 degrees for this case: 10cm diameter, 3 cm wall thickness
It's just a number that works for the dimensions he's using
This is a tradeoff between 1/ approximating the outer diameter of the tube, with the inner curve of the cut (which is an ellipse , project in the right plane)
2/ the amount of grinding he's doing at 5:05
3/ the geometry that's he comfortable welding (shape / size of the chamfer)
There is no formula for this
The only case that fits perfectly with no grinding, is : thickness of the wall = 0, angle = 45 degrees.
This is just a mathematical problem equivalent to approximating a circle arc with an ellipse arc of different radii, and center, this is not trivial.
Now dude, you just took a great idea for the common man that likes to fix stuff or build stuff and put a Sheldon Cooper remark to it. Just say "it's a pretty cool trick" and thank the man for sharing it.
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I appreciate the OP's technical remarks. In fact, I wonder if there is in fact a universal formula that can be used for all (or most) common pipe sizes and wall thicknesses, which can then be used to make a table for quick reference. Or, for simplicity, disregard wall thickness and expect grinding in all cases.
The common man may not be aware of geometry and the different angles required for different diameters of pipes, and simply following this video's 32⁰ - 33⁰ cut for any and all sizes can result in disaster. Those who don't like additional information can simply ignore it. At the least, be aware that one angle doesn't fit all.
I thank the channel for the great tip and clear video, and the OP for the additional information.
Yeah, that's like saying, 3-4-5 are just numbers that work for a square. No math or anything. They are just numbers that work🤣🤣🤣
@@liuj88 This has only just come up on my feed, so I have not had time to give it much thought, but I'm pretty sure that a good mathematician could derive a formula that could be applied to any pipe of any diameters(s) and angles. There will be a linear geometrical relationship between the variables and therefore they can be represented mathematically. Just like the tables of "Bend Allowances" cater for all angles, radii and sheet thickness.
Y'all be rocket scientist? Lol
I have just been doing this with a Chop Saw Blade! I guess I will try the Diablo blade and see if it works better! Great video my friend!👍
stumbled on this video by accident. been using 2 7/8 oil pipe around the ranch for years and have always struggled with this very thing. absolutely awesome tip. thanks!
That look like 2-3/8 Drill pipe to you? Looks like regular Production pipe to me.
Hopefully it will be helpful!
Haha all my oil field buddies give me a hard time about calling it by the wrong name also. Everyone around here just knows it as drill pipe. It’s marketed, sold and labeled as drill pipe here and the surrounding states.
@@LuthiRanchWY go look at Drill pipe on a drilling rig. Then come back and tell me that thin walled stuff is the same. Drill pipe is at least 2X thicker if not more. Probably more like 3 - 4 X as thick if memory serves me. It's a HUGE difference i know that. And I'm talking wall thickness not diameter.
2-3/8 & 2-7/8 is considered Production pipe in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi I know for sure. Which is where I worked for 14 years. I thought maybe you had something heavier that was strictly for drilling. But when I seen its thickness it didn't look different to me. Most everyone calls it oilfield pipe or Tubing.
I really don't care what type of pipe it is. all I know is when I got home, I went out to the bone pile, found some pipe, and cut a piece for no other reason than to see if it would be that simple.. it was. thanks for the videos!
What a wicked, simple little tip, great stuff! Can't wait to give this a try. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Interesting to see that the straight cut conforms perfectly to a curved pipe OD.
Good work. I've used this method before and it's a great alternative if you don't have a oxy rig, plasma or tubing notcher (working with DOM tubing etc.). Like you've said, there are other faster methods but not everyone has those options but the job was still done.
Thanks for the comment!
I am 76 and always try to learn something new. I am impressed young man in what I learned on this video. And I wish you all the best in your farming endeavor.
Much easier and less complicated than other methods I’ve seen posted on RUclips
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge
I’m glad you found it helpful!
What a great way to get this done with simple tools! Great video 💪
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us. Great work!
Glad it was helpful!
New to your channel and enjoying your videos, got turned on to your videos from Farmer Tyler Ranch and happy he did. Coming from a family of welders, I'm still interested in welding projects even though I sucked at welding and didn't follow in their steps. Love watching you and Tyler fabricate pipe projects, keep up the great work "Red"
Hey thanks for the comment! I’ll have to tell Tyler thanks for the shoutout. I’m hoping to do a few more welding projects and make a few more welding videos this fall once we slow down from farming and cows. Take care!
Sometimes the genius is in simplicity. Well done, learn something new every day.
If you think about it, you likely educated hundreds of thousands of people across the world with this one six minute video. That's some real feel-good karma dude. Thanks for sharing! :)
72 and I learn something new almost every day. Great short cut.
Glad to help an old dog learn new tricks!
Slick !! does pipe diameter effect the angle,how do you find it if it changes,
If the size is the same, no if you're going to larger post than the diameter of the horizontal it flattens. It also depends on the diameter of your posts as the the angle to make your cuts.
Yes to what Dougdouglass said. The angle will be the same no matter the size as long as the 2 pieces you are joining are the same diameter.
ANYONE JUST LEARNING TO DO THIS: ITS OK TO USE YOUR SCREW UPS JUST FILL IT WITH WELD!!
I’d agree, don’t throw it away
I use a Diablo blade on my saw. It does a really good job. Thanks for the video. That is a very simple but clever way to do the job. I have a tube notcher but this method is much simpler and easier.
hey brother that's an incredible way to do it I'm a pipe fitter and I seen pipefitters struggle with the saddles as long as I've been pipefitting but I never seen it so fast and so easy the way I saw it today I guess I simply want to express my gratitude thanks
Thanks for the comment! I’m glad the video was helpful! How did you like being a pipe fitter?
There used to be an option to Save these videos. I can no longer figure out how to do that. If anyone knows how, I’d appreciate the help! I truly appreciate a professional sharing his skills with the rest of us! My hat is off to you sir!
Very cleaver idea! In the 70's I worked in a steel fab shop making miles of safety railing in 20' lengths. They had a hand shear to cope the ends that honestly was only a little faster. Thankfully I ha a helper cutting an prepping the pieces while I jigged the sections up and welded them. Brought back good memories!
Just what I've been looking for, I have a hand railing chore coming up. Thank you for taking the time to make and post the video. Much obliged!
I’m aged like other commenters here but I’m commenting on the creator. For the first fugging time, and I have watched thousands plus hours of videos and this seems to be the first time a content creator points up and says link and holy ship would you believe it? There’s a fardgin link there!!! Fracking good on you mate! That got you a like and subscribe. I’m serious, they point to links and nothing there, like ever! Good job man and on top of that I learned something new! Thanks. BTW I know I am late, but it’s never too late to learn something new! 👍
I have never saddled pipe before but if I ever need to you just saved me the head scratchn and the cost of an unnecessary tool. awesome trick.
Honestly I have seen a LOT of guys shoot video and talk A lot but this is to the point , informative and worth while! Well done!
Thanks for that comment
Dammit. Been wasting dozens of hours marking and grinding. And here a chop saw does all the work. Thank you. Ive been in the industry for lots of years and only now learn of this. Granted, i never had a cold saw. No flex in the blade.
The world is already better with people like you and I . Thanks for sharing
Excellent infomation! Am 70 and still. Learning!
Excellent way to saddle up pipe. I've been working with metal for 55+years , this looks like the best way I've seen. I want to go out to my garage now & fire up the chop saw. I won't though, it's 1:30 AM.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge & this video.
I've cut saddles for 30 years, don't even have to mark anything any more just eyeball it, roll the torch and hit the tips w/ a grinder. But I have been dieing to do more precise and frankly healthier and cleaner cuts w/ the new blades. Blade tech has come so far in the past 10 years and its reasonably affordable now. Glad I found this video, I really enjoyed it, thanks for sharing. :)
I’m glad it was helpful! I love getting feedback from you guys with years of experience.
I feel the integrity .thanks for the video . I'm impressed with your attitude and your demeanor and you got right to it when you were teaching how to make the cuts on the pipe it was plain and simple short and straight if I could give you 10 10 stars I would give you 10 stars thank you so much sir I needed to see this and I'm 60 years old and I guess it takes a hard working man to receive a hard-working man I reckon
I am so glad I found this video. Save myself from having to use the torch all the time. Thank you sir!
One word for you Bud - AMAZING!!!!!!! I have a job that this video has made light work of. Thank you.
You are welcome! Thanks for the comment, I was glad to hear it was helpful!
This method beats all other methods I've used. I will be using this from here on out so naturally I'm glad you made this video.
Glad it was helpful!
This is by far the easiest method i have come across. Thanks man . Great job
Great video!
Always tell your sons how special it is to be boys! Good boys! Good boys grow up to be good men like this guy. Men built absolutely everything you see, especially all the comforts women enjoy! Boys are awesome!
It seems impossible to cut a straight line and it will fit a round pipe but it works every time. It works for horizontal and vertical joints. It is the strongest and neatest joint out there. Thank you for the excellent video. A speed square with a level in it will give perfect alignments.
Great job nice even cuts. Glad I found this because I am going to use try this technique for 4-6 inch round peeled logs for light structures or log fencing or cribbing . It would work well with roundwood and even some plastics for the vertical post then saddle the horizontal plus it will look nicer . Thanks for tip .
That was awesome I done 45’s but that 32/33 is awesome with that weld lip penetration. Thanks for the awesome teachings. Nice spacey set up. Thank you for the all American farming!!!!
Thanks for showing it was very well done, I've been a fitter for almost 5o year and have never seen any faster or better.
This is by far the simplest when I've seen online and just in time for a tube structure on building for a catamaran boat thanks brother I'm going to do this this way
Glad it was helpful
I'm a 65yr old tradesman and learned a lesson. Thanks.
RUclips can be awesome when it comes to learning some worthwhile things. Thanks from Vancouver Island Bro.
This is the first time I see someone do it that way. I use that method 40 years ago on st. steel and aluminum pipes. Good work.
BTW, the first time I couped St. Steel pipes, I used a 36gr belt sander.
I’ve been making a survey of all the techniques for this and this is the best I have seen.
You’re over there working smarter and I’ve been busy working harder!
Thanks for tip.
You are welcome! I’m glad it was helpful!
Thank you for show me the best and cheapest way to saddle pipe ! After watching you only thing i did different was to use a trisquare on the saw table and a magnetic level on the other end of the pipe to help make my cuts square worked great . I didnt have to mark my pipe that away but your saw has to be level . Thanks for the video
Sir ! You just saved me a couple a hundred dollars. I was thinking about buying a tube notcher, but with your technique and my Evolution steel chop saw, I guess I won't be needing it.
I’m glad the video is was helpful and I was able to save you some money!
Thank you for sharing Sir. You just saved me a lot of time. I’m an electrician by trade but have a farm now as well with a couple hundred head of Charlois/Brahman. Only a pipe fence will hold them in. Been using a plasma cutter and doing a horrible job with pipe joints. Your method is so much better. Thanks again for sharing.
32.5 degrees.. Who would've thought? Awesome, just awesome. Thanks for sharing
Well I’m 58 and learn everyday also and have used the chop saw method before numerous times but never quite got it right but now with the 32-33 degree angle I think I will get it right. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment, glad the video was helpful!
This is the simple way I've been looking for, instead of the paper template. Thanks.
Thx brother! I’m a hobbyist and have been using an angle grinder and paper to do this. I have a chop saw and will use this very useful tip! God bless!
Glad it was helpful!
Good grief, I've watched other videos that give what seems like complicated ways of making saddles on pipe. Your way is understandable, fast and that bevel for the weld is already there. Great job on the video. I'm going to look into that saw.
This is some outstanding information just using some common sense you will be blessed for helping out so many people you reap what you sow
Thank you. Easiest way I’ve seen. It’s now my go too. Can’t wait to try it.
Good job brother. 33 years welding and you taught me a good technique
Thanks! I love getting feedback from you guys with years of experience
Like all things on a working ranch, being as productive as possible, with the tools to hand is the key to success. This is as professional a result, as you would have received, if you had hired it out. Thanks for an excellent, how to tip!
Thanks for the comment! Definitely have to be a Jack of all trades around here to try and make things work.
65 years old and still learning. Thank you sir.
You are welcome! Glad it was helpful!
I’m having to make a bunch of corner and h braces using 2 3/8 pipe for my property , I had seen your video last year and remembered it so I looked and looked for it till I found it again! Thanks again for the pro tip ! I’ll be using. I’m going to use my Chalk line to mark my pipe instead of the angle iron
I’m glad that the video was useful to you! Hopefully it makes your project a little easier
old time welder here.. most excellent done with torch for years.
His eyechrometer is on point! Bravo sir
that is very nice work,you are a farmer with golden hands.
I've tried many time's never had much luck,32°~33° was all I was missing , big pill to swallow ,bein a 55 year old boilermaker, hats off to you .best time saver I've ever seen!☝🏻👌👌
I’m glad the video was helpful!
Get your self a center head tool and it will speed up your layout a good bit. Nice job man
As a Pipoefitter this is a great way to do a DIY saddle for fences.
Good info man. Thanks for that. I come from back in the cuttin' torch, the only way. I have a different job now but this is most impressive. My old chopsaw never knew it had it coming. As we used to say, I don't get paid by the hour. Time is money.
Thank you for sharing this great tip and product information.