How to Clamp a Wire Rope Ferrule Sleeve Without a Swaging Tool With a Hammer and Punch

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  • Опубликовано: 9 мар 2022
  • An example of ferrule / sleeve on Amazon: amzn.to/3dSfhio
    Wire rope: www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=U...
    Grip pliers with pivoting jaw: www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=U...
    Swaging tool / swager: www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=U...
    How to clamp / crimp a wire rope ferrule / sleeve without a swaging tool, instead with a hammer and punch. The vise grip with pivoting jaw is a nice help. See above for purchasing link. See above for purchasing link. Be cautious, this solution fits many applications but may not as strong as the one with a swaging tool.
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  • @farleyredfield3768
    @farleyredfield3768 10 дней назад +2

    Man I like your English with that French Accent!!

  • @markj284
    @markj284 8 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent breakdown
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  7 месяцев назад +1

      You are welcome. Hope it helps. I have more videos on the topic.

  • @whkiess
    @whkiess 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing your method. It certainly looks as good as a professionally made one. I hope it will be just as strong, since when I do it, it will need to hold a heavy shelf up.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  2 года назад +4

      I use it to hold 4 huge 332lbs rated trash can together on an incline with a lot of wind on them. It has never failed. Pick the right wire diameter and increase the number of punches if you have a doubt. Let me know how it works for you. BTW I posted the video after years of experience.

  • @oldesertguy9616
    @oldesertguy9616 2 года назад +1

    Thank you. I have to do six ferrules and I forgot how I had done them in the past. This seems like a good method.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  2 года назад +1

      Thank you. It is indeed a good method, easy to follow with excellent results. My how-to videos are always built on that model.

  • @C18H19NaO5S
    @C18H19NaO5S 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant! Thank you

  • @phillpauley6672
    @phillpauley6672 2 года назад +6

    Last time I had to use these on a homemade crossbow I simply smacked it a few times with a hammer on my vise anvil. It's still holding strong after about 6 years.

  • @spankymagee
    @spankymagee Год назад +1

    I thought it was a dumb choice when i read the title until I watched. I think this would work well in a pinch since you compressed the sides with the vice. Good idea, thanks.

  • @mikebriscoe6692
    @mikebriscoe6692 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nice work! Saves buying a crimping tool that I would not need in the future. Thanks!

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you. This is my opinion as well!

  • @laurenm.8827
    @laurenm.8827 Год назад +3

    I used his method to secure a ferrule on steel rope to hold a 20 pound painting from a ceiling joist. It's plenty strong enough for my lightweight purposes.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  Год назад

      Lauren, I have just published a video showing that I hold 4 96 pound trash containers with a lot of wind on a steep incline. So the 20 pound of your painting is very safe.
      ruclips.net/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/видео.html

  • @dandonovan9990
    @dandonovan9990 Год назад +1

    super helpful

  • @MrRunner
    @MrRunner Месяц назад +1

    Merci mon ami. Une explanation parfait

  • @belle7624
    @belle7624 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you !!!

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  5 месяцев назад

      You are welcome, always happy to help.

  • @zephsmith3499
    @zephsmith3499 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the tips. And I like your large vice grip, haven't seen one like that.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. You can buy the vice grip with pivoting jaw at: Grip pliers with pivoting jaw: www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=bestcashloans-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=3276cc25bbd2cb0705692128a6bea402&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=tools&keywords=Pliers%20grip%20pivoting%20jaw

    • @zephsmith3499
      @zephsmith3499 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@CARANDTRAIN
      Thanks for that!
      They are a touch expensive; have you found them worth it?

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  4 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely, because of the pivot, they keep the jaws parallel.

  • @lifesab470
    @lifesab470 2 года назад +1

    Thank you

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  2 года назад

      You are welcome, always happy to help!

  • @williamgrissom9022
    @williamgrissom9022 5 месяцев назад +1

    I used an Automotive Tool made to disconnect Steering Tie Rod ends. It is a lever w/ loading screw. I used it to crimp 1/4" wire rope aluminum ferrules.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks. This is smart to repurpose a tool.

  • @patdot2118
    @patdot2118 2 года назад +1

    That was so interesting

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  2 года назад

      Thank you. Appreciate the comment.

  • @gonnafish
    @gonnafish 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for this. Was looking for a way to do so without a crimping tool. Common sense would tell you this is for lighter applications. If you would have said so maybe you wouldn’t have received negative comments from people with their underwear in a knot.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks. Yes it is for lighter use.

  • @georgecurtis6463
    @georgecurtis6463 7 месяцев назад +6

    Boy, some answers here are amazingly stupid. This is a methid for light use . Not for carrying 20 tons. Yet you all get rabid about it. Almost all of us are doing things like this for home use and light demands. Myself i just use a blunt chisel and hammer that into the ferrule. In no possible way will that fail in any situation i plan on using it for. In the industry, anyone planning on heavy use will deffinately get it done or built properly.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  7 месяцев назад

      Indeed a method for light use. I am holding 400lbs trash cans on asteep incline.

  • @rml442
    @rml442 2 года назад +1

    Merci Beaucoup.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  2 года назад

      De rien!

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  2 года назад

      I like your SWB video. I am also a Ferrari fan. I have quite a few Ferrari videos but nothing close to 250 SWB.

  • @LTVoyager
    @LTVoyager Год назад +3

    You need to do a load test. A properly staged ferrule will be as strong as the cable itself. I suspect your method will not be even 50% as strong as the cable, but a pull test should be done to check this.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  Год назад +7

      Good comment. Everybody does not need the strongest cable in the world; some may need rather a custom length or purpose cable. Anyhow these cables retain 400 lbs trash cans on a steep and very windy slope, called Edgecliff. And they have not failed once. The hooks at the end have failed. Please look at this video, it explains:
      ruclips.net/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/видео.html

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  Год назад +1

      Load test considerations:
      ruclips.net/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/видео.html

  • @zaimhazmin8851
    @zaimhazmin8851 Год назад +1

    err.. profesionally made😱

  • @jamesstrawn6087
    @jamesstrawn6087 3 месяца назад +1

    I have had luck simply placing the aluminum fitting the long direction (like squeezing an "8") in the vice and compressing until it flattens. It ends up looking unusually regular in shape, uniform, but seems like it would take a direct nuclear hit. Also, never just one to a joining if it is anything critical.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  3 месяца назад

      Good alternative idea. Can you reword the last sentence?

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  3 месяца назад

      Interesting suggestion. Can you reword your last sentence?

  • @jasonh4167
    @jasonh4167 4 месяца назад +2

    I wouldn’t trust that with any over head lifting, supporting because there’s not enough contact inside the Ferrell to the cable . You have to squish the soft aluminum into the steel cable strands to be safe.

    • @jasonh4167
      @jasonh4167 4 месяца назад

      *the full length should be squished into steel

  • @oolatony
    @oolatony 2 месяца назад +2

    I think this is Renee from Allo Allo😂

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  2 месяца назад

      What do you mean?

    • @oolatony
      @oolatony 2 месяца назад +1

      @@CARANDTRAIN Old TV show

    • @MrRunner
      @MrRunner Месяц назад

      You stupid man, how can this be, the war is over ?

    • @grahamtranter3616
      @grahamtranter3616 Месяц назад +1

      A very good video and useful recommendation.
      @oolatony might equally have cited Raymond Blanc, Michel Roux or Pierre-Yves Gerbeau but probably not Isambard Kingdom Brunel who I imagine was naturalised British. I'd point out that the old TV show heaped most ridicule on the English and German characters; having the English characters not just speak in a French accents but actually speak pigeon English was quite clever for the time and probably one of the shows main merits. (thank you for providing the inspiration to look it up on RUclips - and enjoy the Englishmen dressed as a French Gendarme ). ruclips.net/video/i2bqb2vvizk/видео.html

  • @marcosilveira1721
    @marcosilveira1721 6 месяцев назад +1

    Para eso hay herramientas esa practica no es segura .

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  5 месяцев назад

      de acuerdo. pero es una solucion que funciona en muchos casos no demasiado complicados.

  • @gregoryallen4521
    @gregoryallen4521 Год назад +11

    This loop is nowhere near the proper spec for a properly swaged eye, someone's going to die from following this advice.

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  Год назад +2

      Can you elaborate more ?

    • @joelsmith3168
      @joelsmith3168 Год назад +7

      Another Karen 😊

    • @gregoryallen4521
      @gregoryallen4521 Год назад +13

      @@CARANDTRAIN a properly swaged eye should support 90% of the rated break strength of the wire rope used. When properly swaged, the metal of the sleeve should fill in the gaps around the strands of the wire. there are well-established standards for sleeve diameter post-swage and number of swages necessary for each size of wire rope. The method shown above does not provide adequate compression of the sleeve and will therefore result in a weak eye that can support only a fraction of the rated load. That wire rope probably has a break strength of 2000 lbs, but your eye probably won't hold 200

    • @2k3r11s
      @2k3r11s Год назад +2

      Absolutely correct. A swage tool is a calibrated device when combined with the matching proper size of ferrule and wire rope. It applies precisely the correct amount of force, uniformly around the circumference of the ferrule rather than only in concentrated spots like a punch tool will do, to mold the ferrule into the valleys of the cable over its entire surface that is contained within the ferrule. Over-tightening is just as bad as under-tightening - you can damage the ferrule in ways not visible to the eye, producing cracks or thinning of the ferrule that weaken it, just as under-tightening will insufficiently mold the ferrule into the valleys of the cable from all directions.
      The method in this video "works", only to the extent that you probably will not be able to pull the ferrule off with your hand. At only 5% of the rated strength you would not be able to budge the ferrule at all. But there is no way to know whether you have over or under-tightened; there is no way to know what the break strength will be without breaking it.
      The only way to know the break strength of this type of fastener is to actually break them. That's why it is essential that you can create these fasteners with precise consistency and repeatability, so that the next one you make after breaking the tested one is as close as possible to the one you broke by testing it. Doing this by hand and guessing is how you get absolutely no repeatability whatsoever - and someone could die trusting equipment that *looks like rigging equipment* even if it wasn't your intention to use it that way.
      There should be a giant disclaimer on this video that says "never, ever, ever do this". Better, this video should be removed. Even if your purpose is not to secure anything valuable, the problem is that someone else could use this cable in the future thinking that it was made to specification.

    • @ericksonjustinAK
      @ericksonjustinAK 11 месяцев назад +5

      Holy crap man. Sometimes you use a wire cable because you need something simple, like a pulley system for a bucket that’s never going to be more than 50lbs. Or something that will track and weather better than rope.
      The reason why I looked this up is because I need to replace the emergency cable on my trailer that needs to pull no more than 5lbs of force to engage the emergency break mechanism. It needs to slide well and weather well, that’s the only reason for using wire cable. This form of crimping will do just fine. Spending over $50 for this one thing seems pointless for many circumstances for people that don’t do something like this no more than once every 2-3 years.

  • @jean-jacquesvanroyen5779
    @jean-jacquesvanroyen5779 3 месяца назад +1

    Totally wrong, dangerous, wpuld not hold any load

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  3 месяца назад +2

      I has been holding successfully 2 groups of 400 lbs trash cans for 5 years on the edge of a windy slope.
      How to Clamp a Wire Rope Ferrule Sleeve Without a Swaging Tool With a Hammer and Punch
      ruclips.net/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/видео.html

  • @kevinkozkoz4348
    @kevinkozkoz4348 5 месяцев назад

    Waste of time just get the right tool

    • @CARANDTRAIN
      @CARANDTRAIN  5 месяцев назад +3

      Many watchers do not share your opinion.