As a life long practitioner of a Hakka art, you hit the nail at the end with the focus on developing ging. Without it it just looks like generic “Kungfu”
To my knowledge, Wing Chun's Bart Jam Dao underwent an evolution due to cultural factors as well, the same way that fruit basket poles aren't relevant in practice today. In the (probably legendary) Shaolin era of its development, the blades were sharpened only at the end, so that chopping would just inflict blunt damage, but the edge was still available for cuts, should the need arise; This being in line with monks defending themselves while causing as little harm as they could. Then in the Red Boats era, the form became much more stabby than choppy, as the blades became triangular (moving the center of mass towards the hand), because now the point was to shiv Qing agents and their collaborators. And then Ip Man brought back the chopping, because in Hong Kong, the weapon most readily available to his students were the meat cleavers that they were using in the kitchens that they were working in. Or at least so the story goes; "I have heard it being said..."
Interesting perspective it's always nice to see solid information being presented for the Hakka arts. Aside from the short, shock power, I find that most high-level practitioners of the Hakka arts especially Pak Mei have some expertise in Traditional Chinese Medicine, acupuncture and making potent medicines from herbs, etc. Not to say anything about other systems but I also find that arts like Pak Mei have no concern for looking flashy or care to put on a flashy public display, they really emphasize a no-frills approach, which makes sense in the context of the development during a time of rebellion, civil war, Western and Japanese invasion, etc. Pak Mei was taught to the Nationalist Officers at the Whampoa military academy and to Intelligence Agents in Canton, before its relocation to Hong Kong, it was used along with the "big chopper" squads against the Japanese. Aside from this all the high-level practitioners tend to have some serious conditioning and "iron" ability. I highly recommend it.
Th fruit pole length sounds like it's the same length as a walking cane which is legal to carry in most places so I'd think that weapon at least could still be practical today. I'd love to see a video on that.
Is there a video on developing this power? Really interesting learning about the Hakka arts. Would be cool to see Adam training g alongside and introducing other Hala systems and Sufi’s and comparing them in person.
there are not much, the stick to carry stuff he mentioned, then the bench is probably the most famous, butterfly swords are easily exchanged by meat cleavers used day to day, the broadsword back then was a popular police weapon and the trident can be seen as a farming tool as well like you know from making hay
Did you explain the difference between dueling arts and self defense arts in a separate video? Also is there any relationship between Tibetan White Crane and the Hakka arts ? I remember there was a Hop Gar Mantis book by Steve Richards .
Great content. Old kenpo and kun tao were both from hakka arts. Choe gar sarim bo form is almost identical to san chin . I have done some history sleuthing and it seems the hakka people were the descendants of the khitan empire. Have you any take on this or do you think it is just myth ?
I'm curious to see some videos of form from the first style that CLC learned as a child. I understand that he learned Vagabond or Wanderer's style - but don't know how that is written in Chinese. That makes it difficult to search for online. Do you know who might still be teaching this style and might have some videos online showing it?
You said they are no street fighers, actually hard to tell if you watch the related stories to hakka arts. Like these three monks that practiced the styles related to hakka like bak mei and the others of the The Five Elders of Shaolin which are kind of related to hakka. They were not really known for their peace loving harmony behaviour. I think 18 ghost bridge or the motto of wing chun like the style has to win no matter what, i do not need to explain. Just watch A Slice of Death (1979) or prodigal son movie. One guys trains wing chun is known in the town as greatest street fighter and the other guy is fighting a mix of chuka shaolin and dragon kung fu, just leaving crippled people in his path. Going for the kill to make room for themselves kind of sounds like becoming king of streets ...
The HakKas have quite "dark history" called Taiping Rebellion , it almost destroyed the Qing Empire (Manchu) regime. Once the Taiping troops reached and captured Nan Jing, built their capital there, renamed it into "Tian Jing" (Capital of Heaven). The casualties approximately over 20 million, many more than Opium War's casualties.
Sorry, with all repsepcts, - Again, bad listienoing condition,s, Sorry. - Talking half the time 4:09 of 8:56 and showing nothing??? -NO self-defence , neither situations, nor actions presented???? The featuers of the system: 04:21-31 is Very close range, Stance upright, small movements - similar to Wing-Chun - 04:49 The reason, self defence at very close range, like " street-fighting", No sparring, streiking your eyes, breaking your neck, etc.
As a life long practitioner of a Hakka art, you hit the nail at the end with the focus on developing ging. Without it it just looks like generic “Kungfu”
To my knowledge, Wing Chun's Bart Jam Dao underwent an evolution due to cultural factors as well, the same way that fruit basket poles aren't relevant in practice today. In the (probably legendary) Shaolin era of its development, the blades were sharpened only at the end, so that chopping would just inflict blunt damage, but the edge was still available for cuts, should the need arise; This being in line with monks defending themselves while causing as little harm as they could. Then in the Red Boats era, the form became much more stabby than choppy, as the blades became triangular (moving the center of mass towards the hand), because now the point was to shiv Qing agents and their collaborators. And then Ip Man brought back the chopping, because in Hong Kong, the weapon most readily available to his students were the meat cleavers that they were using in the kitchens that they were working in. Or at least so the story goes; "I have heard it being said..."
Interesting perspective it's always nice to see solid information being presented for the Hakka arts. Aside from the short, shock power, I find that most high-level practitioners of the Hakka arts especially Pak Mei have some expertise in Traditional Chinese Medicine, acupuncture and making potent medicines from herbs, etc. Not to say anything about other systems but I also find that arts like Pak Mei have no concern for looking flashy or care to put on a flashy public display, they really emphasize a no-frills approach, which makes sense in the context of the development during a time of rebellion, civil war, Western and Japanese invasion, etc. Pak Mei was taught to the Nationalist Officers at the Whampoa military academy and to Intelligence Agents in Canton, before its relocation to Hong Kong, it was used along with the "big chopper" squads against the Japanese. Aside from this all the high-level practitioners tend to have some serious conditioning and "iron" ability. I highly recommend it.
Is there gonna be a part 2 to this, was so interesting and seems like so much to explore! Chow gar man here. Peace and blessings from UK
Brilliant closing statement.
Awesome video 👍😎👍
The obscure vagabond style is the mother of hakka styles
It moved to Malaysia is know known as Fong Yang Quan
Th fruit pole length sounds like it's the same length as a walking cane which is legal to carry in most places so I'd think that weapon at least could still be practical today. I'd love to see a video on that.
Is there a video on developing this power?
Really interesting learning about the Hakka arts.
Would be cool to see Adam training g alongside and introducing other Hala systems and Sufi’s and comparing them in person.
Love these history videos and especially those aboutbthe hakkanese arts. Keep it up!
Great video. Can you do a followup about the specific improvised weapons? Are they farming tools? Do they include any thrown weapons?
there are not much, the stick to carry stuff he mentioned, then the bench is probably the most famous, butterfly swords are easily exchanged by meat cleavers used day to day, the broadsword back then was a popular police weapon and the trident can be seen as a farming tool as well like you know from making hay
Spiral Shock power.😊 tendons, ligaments, breathing😊
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Did you explain the difference between dueling arts and self defense arts in a separate video? Also is there any relationship between Tibetan White Crane and the Hakka arts ? I remember there was a Hop Gar Mantis book by Steve Richards .
Hey, in Wing Tsun we also use one-inch power in all directions, not only forward one
Someone knows in which hakkastyle the pigheart fist is used? Its phoenix eye with the middlefinger.
Great content. Old kenpo and kun tao were both from hakka arts. Choe gar sarim bo form is almost identical to san chin . I have done some history sleuthing and it seems the hakka people were the descendants of the khitan empire. Have you any take on this or do you think it is just myth ?
Hakka are part of the Han ethnic group. Not Khitan related.
I'm curious to see some videos of form from the first style that CLC learned as a child. I understand that he learned Vagabond or Wanderer's style - but don't know how that is written in Chinese. That makes it difficult to search for online. Do you know who might still be teaching this style and might have some videos online showing it?
2022? Is this an old video?
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You said they are no street fighers, actually hard to tell if you watch the related stories to hakka arts. Like these three monks that practiced the styles related to hakka like bak mei and the others of the The Five Elders of Shaolin which are kind of related to hakka. They were not really known for their peace loving harmony behaviour. I think 18 ghost bridge or the motto of wing chun like the style has to win no matter what, i do not need to explain. Just watch A Slice of Death (1979)
or prodigal son movie. One guys trains wing chun is known in the town as greatest street fighter and the other guy is fighting a mix of chuka shaolin and dragon kung fu, just leaving crippled people in his path. Going for the kill to make room for themselves kind of sounds like becoming king of streets ...
They definitely don't understand sociological factors unfortunately. ❤❤❤
The HakKas have quite "dark history" called Taiping Rebellion , it almost destroyed the Qing Empire (Manchu) regime.
Once the Taiping troops reached and captured Nan Jing, built their capital there, renamed it into "Tian Jing" (Capital of Heaven).
The casualties approximately over 20 million, many more than Opium War's casualties.
Sorry, with all repsepcts,
- Again, bad listienoing condition,s, Sorry.
- Talking half the time 4:09 of 8:56 and showing nothing???
-NO self-defence , neither situations, nor actions presented????
The featuers of the system: 04:21-31 is Very close range, Stance upright, small movements - similar to Wing-Chun
- 04:49 The reason, self defence at very close range, like " street-fighting",
No sparring, streiking your eyes, breaking your neck, etc.