Electribe 2 vs Sampler: Grey & Blue vs Black & Red - what's the difference?
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Electribe 2 vs Sampler: Grey & Blue vs Black & Red - what's the difference? A detailed analysis including an oscilloscope and spectrum analysis
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As a guitar player, I am absolutely in awe of this witchcraft you synth-guys are capable of.
Same from my side, how on earth can you twist your fingers and move them that quickly and accurately and remember all the chords and everything :D
Synth and guitar are not mutually exclusive. Holdsworth used a synthaxe way back in the 80s to enormous success. With the right tools, the guitar is still one of the best and most flexible midi controllers.
Your videos are easily some of the best produced and most informative I've seen on RUclips.. amazing amount of work effort. Please keep it Up! :)
The Drümünkey thanks!
100 % absolutely agree, I've watching lots of videos and didn't get any information about the time sampling you have
this video just nailed it!
wish I could find a video explaining the difference between:
- Korg Volca
- Akai Mpx 16
- Novation Circuit
- Roland SP 404SX
- OP 10, etc....
and making clear about the time sampling you have.
Thanks again, a lot
@@loopop alhtough.... pop filter would be nice ;D
I have since acquired one....
Good vid have I made a big mistake by getting the red as I'm bothered the fx more ,I've got the korg minilogue original so is that better fx then the blue electribe?
i don't know if I ever gonna buy any electribe. I'm just thankful for the amazing sound design class.
Studied digital signal processing past semester, great to discover it is useful after all! :')
Finally a video that clearly explains the difference between these four devices. Thanks a lot, man!
These Electribes are my favorite hardware beat makers Iv ever used and when I used to have a badass mpc 2000xl which sounded better.... The Electribe workflow is so much better for me I can make awesome beats in 15 min with these I have 2 so far Im probably gonna buy 2 more ...
There so go very rhythmically skilled especially hi hats
This is basically an excellent into to filters and oscillators in general.
This is more than only their function, clear expliation of basic synthesis as well.
I was so bummed when I found out the oscilloscope was an overlay...I use the Minilogue XD extensively and I've almost forgotten how to use a synth that doesn't have an oscilloscope!
You could add one if you need it, check RUclips for mini oscilloscopes something like the ds212 onwards. If space isn't an issue older crt based scopes will work & give you very fast refresh, of course they'll be used lab equipment but better than going to waste.
Im super late but small oscilliscopes arent expensive anymore, 20-30 bucks on amazon/the electronics retailer of your choice
@@LucIndustries I don't know how to connect oscilloscopes, with the clips and all...but I have found a plug-in for my daw so as long as I have something connected I can use that.
What is the reason for looking at that while making sounds?
Minilogue XDDD
OMG this is the BEST EXPLINATION VIDEO IN THE UNIVERSE! THANKYOU!
Never seen such a good video explaining what equipment does! :-)
Thank god this video exists ! Bidding on a Red electribe hope no one else bids !! Can’t wait to get me hands on it!!
Such a great video. I used this video the most for my decision on a beat box and which Korg; the Electribe2 or Sampler. Excellent comparison, and most notably the most usable for a purchase. I have been enjoying my Electribe2 now for a year. Thank you!
It's fun to go back to a video of yours made 6 years ago. Great thinkers make great speaker when they hone that craft too. Despite the microphone and processing being less than your modern standard of quality, your skills still shine through!
This video is fucking great. I LOVE the way you give me a real reason to subscribe. I LOVE the way you summarize everything in 3 minutes.
It's really great to see the effects of the various filters visually and listen to them. That was fascinating. I knew most of it from theory, but seeing and listening to it in action was very enlightening. Thanks a lot!
When I got tired of the synth engine of OP-Z, I started looking for some cheaper alternative. Circuit or CTracks is out of question, bc I really need a 8-track polyphonic sequencer for my other gears, so I turn to E2s. Even if I am still not sure about whether it is a right decision today, I gradually start to enjoy this machine. The workflow is drastically different, and sometimes I’m struggling on the step edit and sample postions on E2s, but the kaosillator style x-y pad is so much fun and chord/scale mode is tremendously friendly for a non-pianoist. I can tell korg would expect us to live performance or live record w/ Electribe. Hopefully Korg would combine the red and blue for the next generation, and extend the loop length to at least 8 bar.
There is an alternative firmware called Hacktribe, which combines the sampler and synth version: sampling + all the effects and synths from synth version + some new fm waves. Really easy to install if you follow the manual or video carefully. It can be installed both on sampler or synth version, installing on sample version is 1 step easier.
Lol Monophonic midi tracks sad…
I cannot believe I didn't realize there were multiple FIlters for the Standard Electribe. I read the Manuel as well. Next time I need to make sure to read specifications. So many hidden features.
I wish I got the gray or blue one now
Man this is still one of the best videos on all of RUclips. 💥🏆
Wow impressive and serious analysis. Very nice work. I hope to see more!
thanks very much
Great video! I wish the electribes came with both an oscilloscope window and a spectrum anaalyzer 😂😅
When i use my 2 Red at home it looks like it's red. When i'm out using it in the public it looks pink all of the sudden :) They could have chosen a better color for the sampler although i do know it's a throwback color.
To me it looks burgundy,it remind s Me of a women's nail varnish
When I thought that waveform overlay was on a new version I got excited! Korg needs to do that to it’s x-y pad
If they made a touch screen on the XY pad... I'd be so happy
Back when LooPop wasn't using a Pop filter for his voice.
I want to buy the new red sampler instead of the older black one but I think all that red will freak me out by staying hours in front of it
This is gold! Thank you so much my good sir!
Thanks, this video made it easy to select the model I need.
which model?
It would be great if you could do the whole tutorial on EMX2 / ESX2 in several parts from the basics to advanced features.
There are many tutorials on YT but yours are very well done. You are always very well prepared before recording and you know these machines quite well.
Thanks very much - yes I have a few more coming - just need to find time to do them ;)
Thank you for the great in-depth comparison!
You chose the perfect time to mention a subscription ;-)
Hi, thanks for this. Can I ask, what's the difference between a track and a pattern? Thnks
Хороший человек, хорошо всё объяснил, показал осцилограммы и мне сразу всё стало понятно! Спасибо!
I've noticed that more filter options occaisonally flash for a fraction of a second on my Red Electribe 2 Sampler. It appears this feature has been deactivated, but is still there. Anyone else notice this?
I like almost every video You made. They are easy to pick up, clear, and full of valuable knowledge. This video i quite different. It's kinda ok, but its seems like You have problems with microphone, or volumes while recordings, and they dont have the clock list on left side of the screen, which normally is very handfull. Instead of all, Your videos quite rule the RUclips. Keep it up! Cheers.
Totally. Apple headphone mic and just getting started
Sei un GRANDE…troppo bravo. Complimenti
There was a 30 min kimbra izotope ad that played before this video and I ended up watching the whole thing
Thanks for doing this !!
what about a comparison of the built in drum sounds
Anyone know if there's a significant difference between the sequencers on these two? I just want a polyphonic sequencer with tons of memory (my emx-1 works great, but has no polyphony), and I may never use the internal sounds...I'm leaning towards the sampler as I have more synths than sense, but any thoughts?
wow, thanks for making this, really well laid out
Finally! You did great work!
great video as always! would you be able to do a video explaining the EG Int knob and Modulation?
thanks! yes, stay tuned... just got to find time... hopefully in the coming several weeks
Thank you !
Exactly what I needed you're awesome
Hi, did you notice a difference with headphones out versus standard jack outputs? I think the sampler model has some notch between 2k and 8k compared to headphones out which sounds indeed more brilliant....
So that’s where the multiple filters are ok cool. I thought they were in the modulation section dooh. I Need to read manual more lol
very informative, thank you very much! great videos
Pretty Cool. Thanks.
FWIW, these are all new electribe models, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electribe
Great review and comparison... thanks!!
You could use a pop filter in front of your mic while recording, or roll off the bass during post.
Done for future videos after this one...
buy at sweetwater, same price but with expertise and support. amazon is a cancer. shame on anyone who doesn't support the music stores for music gear
Spot on! Support our local music stores where we can see and hear our instruments in person! I avoid shopping on amazon for a variety of reason, but this is the biggest reason!
I literally just picked up an ES-1 MK2 can't wait to try it out!
Really torn between the two models - I've got a Novation Circuit and Korg Monologue it'd be in a setup with, but cannot decide whether samples (which I can also port onto the circuit) are worth sacrificing so many more oscillators
Which did you end up going with?
Great detailed explanation, thanks
how to build complex sound by adding two OSC ??
So far I see many videos most of this related this device players are showing up the function ( mainly squeaky nooky noises) bro but not recording or creating samples styles under any name to store in memory that how we can save it bro
if you can do for updates on these tutorials, just creating one or two samples styles on these models that will give people like me who are
new will be more benefitted thank you
Could I import any sample I like on the red sampler? Like a clip from a favourite track or artist or some dialogue from a youtube video?
Thanks, for the deep inside. Subscribed :)
Just bought one after seeing your video but unfortunately the oscilloscope won't turn up and stay black...
Sorry, the scope is a fake overlay - return it while you have time!
@@loopop sorry, i was joking but I'm bad at humor.
@@rimk1217 I know I know me too apparently
I want to know what you are using g as an ocsiliscope and spectrum analyser. that you be super helpful foe technical sound design
Ryan Ray sure - it's the spectrum analyzer from ableton and the Moscilloscope
Did you ever come out with an additional video on this Sampler? Love your videos, theyve helped me so much with the Moog , DFAM, Mother 32, Sub Harmonicon, Beatstep, keystep 37, Subsequent 25, Arturia mini brute 2s, Roland tr 08, any how just alot of gear i have youve shown the path.
Thanks! I made quite a few videos a few years ago - just keep looking ;)
Intresting video ,I've been trying to get a sound on my electribe2 sampler and its on the emx its a psych trance jumpy sound its cross modulation and i wonder why its not on the electribe 2 ,ive got it on my minilogue but wish it was on my electribe
very nicely explaining the models I really thank you for that which help a person like me who never seen and Long Mac don't have in store
can you show one more that in the red one that you can create one rhythm and save it in SD/internal memory which gives more ideas person like me I guess instead of hearing the frequencies or noises in the middle session, but thank you for your great inform effort to show to music world
Anton Emmanuel thanks for you comment - I made a tips video for the red one on my channel - maybe that would answer your question
can you pls send me that link bro that will help me thanks
I'm wondering what is this high frequency spike visible on the spectrum analyzer in the bottom right corner. I've seen it in another video on your channel, also with Electribe 2 Sampler. It's strange that when you use Low Pass filter in the 5:00 mark time, this single frequency spike is still there.
Do you think the Electribe 2 sampler can be used by a Blind musician? If not, which sample capable groove box can?
It’s a pity you don’t underline the scale feature and constraint notes on these devices.
I think a lot of people are not aware this is probably the most important thing in music composition..and how hard it is to do it on a normal keyboard.
I'm looking forward to the sampler video. How are you liking these units? Do you recommend one over the other?
They're both nice - obviously it would have been best to combine their features into one... what I have found is that different people prefer different things - which is why I made the video, to help make the decision regarding what's more important to you. I would say that if you're into shaping your own sound from scratch so much that it's more important than adding sampling, get the blue one, otherwise go red
Thanks. If you get a chance. I'd love to see you showcase some different synth sounds you can make with the Electribe!
I agree. Doesn't seem like it would have been too much trouble for Korg to make these into one unit. I've owned both, sold the E2 and bought the sampler. I wish the sampling aspect of the sampler was easier to use. Maybe your next tutorial will cover that. I don't even use the sampler as it is so fiddly.
Thanks so much for this, exactly what I've been searching for.
Is it possible to send midi via usb from Ableton/Any DAW?
Thanks and Yes
loopop thank you!
I have a minilogue xd and a volca drums. Should I buy the Electribe 2 or the Electribe Sampler? thanks!
E2 + tiny sampler (akai mpx8) or E2s + tiny synth (micromonsta)?? What dou you choose?
Very useful, thanks.
why my e2s Edit knob work with sample start fw/rev (not find a really use of it) instead of sample/osc edit?
I'm blind. Do you think that the Electribe sampler might be good for me? If not, what sampler should I buy?
On the sample version if I sample 20 seconds of a song chorus is there any way of chopping up that song by part and assigning each individual part or track to each pad
Is that what you mean by transient. Is it automatic if so or a manual process
I think you are saying you like the sampler better?
What / Where are exactly the 303 Ms20 Oberheim Synth on the electribe?
Some "OSC-EDIT" variations sound like FM synthesis !
on the non sampler one, they ARE fm synthesis.
So whats the difference between the red and black one
Lucid TV better pads in red
@loopop you are like a master over the electribe 2, are you familiar with a custom firmware that supposedly can convert a sampler into synth, and synth into a sampler model? There’s like very very little info regarding this online- if you know anything about this , that would be pretty interesting
Thanks! I’ve heard of it, but I never tried it and I’m not sure it works well
Gibt es einen Grund bei den Samplern warum bei der schwarzen Oscillator steht und bei der roten Sample? (Drehknopf)
Hi
Do you know how I can make a stutter effect on the electribe 2 sampler.
Do they not produce the grey and black versions anymore?
Hi.... I play for a funk band where I sing. I need to incorporate some electronica sounds into that. But the band’s music is still complete without that as we have a drummer, bass player and guitar player. So if I have to incorporate some faders, waves and some synth parts, which machine would you suggest? I could borrow a sampler 2s from a friend would that help?
Imagine something on the lines of jamiroquai n daft punk but more of the live instrument sounds n less of electronica
This is going to sound so petty (but I can't be the only one). Why did they make the new models red and blue??? They look so cheap and tacky. The grey and black was sooooo much classier. Just my opinion.
Agreed, and a second hand older one seems to go for more than a brand new one on ebay.
The colors are a nod to the earlier electribes (emx and ems).
i've heard new electribes suck and at the same time the old ones price spiked in ebay : D
"24 note polyphony"...... Yeah.... No.
If you actually plan to use filters, that eats polyphony.
If you plan to use insert effects, that eats polyphony.
If you plan to use one of the heavier oscillator types, that eats polyphony.
So if you actually start *using* the features it has, maybe even on more than a single sound - well, you might find yourself lucky to reach 12 note polyphony.
Right, effects reduce polyphony, but actually I think 12 note polyphony pretty amazing considering what you get... many grooveboxes have much less
This was by far my biggest issue with the new Electribes. 24 voices would be great, but with so many things possibly eating into that polyphony, I was lucky to get 5-6 parts happening before I was running into voice stealing and needing to make compromises in my synth architecture. Bummer.
Which ones have less?
Exactly my issue with them and why I sold mine after 2 weeks. When I mention this the usual response I get is "well I never run into that!" making me wonder whether some people actually *use* the features of their electribe :-/
@Loopop - the 2001 Yamaha RS7000 groovebox had 64 note polyphony for synth and 256 note polyphony for sampler parts.
There really is no excuse for poor polyphony implementation 16 years later.
Just for comparison - in the same time period laptops went from 256mb internal memory to 16GB internal memory, CPU speeds are more then tenfold...... But somehow Korg manages to release a groovebox with less polyphony than a 2001 machine, and the same sample time as their own 2003 Korg ESX.....
Great vid!!!
Hi are these unique enough to warrant buying both thanks ?
How do I equalize korg samples and Master?
So i just got the electribe 2 sampler... And i want to start creating music but everytime i press record and want to start making music a song starts. Whats going on?
How to make music from scratch without the pre fabricated songs playing in the back im so confused why is it playing a full song whenever i presss a button
I did the hack on my electribe 2 converting it to sampler 2 and then I
converted it back to electribe 2. I would like to better understand the
difference between the two machines. I would like to know which of the
two versions might be most useful since I have a Maschine MK2 , a
Kaossilator Pro Korg (first version) a Novinator synth Mininova, and a
Sampler Roland SP 808 EX
maxastuto bro how do you do the hack? I found nothing here on utube
Hey Loopop could you explain me how you can show the frequency and spectrum analyzer on screen ?? Do you route the audio out in your audio interface to your Daw ?
Alan Bouët-Willaumez yes, exactly
Why don't I have a screen on my xy pad?
It's not real, just an overlay I added for this video - you can see it's on top of my hands in the video...
does the electribe sampler have the same factory installed stuff of the other one?
No
@@loopop less or more? should i spend 100 pounds more for the sampler for your ? or the factory installed stuff can satisfy
Please watch my video comparing the two
what oscilloscope have you used?
It's free too...
Dumb question?
When did they upgrade the Pads?
The black box or not until the pastel boxes.
I was thinking of replacing my E2 with an ES2 and the black ones are a lot less on eBay. I love mine (gave up my aging mpc) but the sampler would be more useful for me on gigs. And I use mine as an input device also so I would like better pads.
Thomas L Thomas first, a disclaimer, I don't have any inside info on this... after that, yes, the metallic blue and red ones have the higher (and I think better) pads (to my knowledge...)
Thanx for the quick answer.
I may just go for a black one anyway.
I'm a full time musician so every $$ counts.
I love these little boxes though real work horses.
Thomas L Thomas sure thing. Btw if you have an external midi keyboard, pad responsiveness won't matter as much. Good luck !
Why does the Electribe 2 (synth) have an "Input Level" adjustment if there is no way to sample?
AJ Sorenson because you can still play, apply effects and sequence external gear with it, and it's nice that you can control the level of the external source on the Electribe itself
Merci
if you have had any experience with the electribe emx1sd i would love for you to give me your opinion on which you think is "better." I am looking in to getting a groovebox and I am deciding between the electribe 2 or the emx1sd, and since im still fairly new to this type of instrument playing, i would just like to hear your opinion on them
log dog I've never used the emx1 - sorry - can't compare :/ I think any of the Electribes are a great place to start - for the price you get a ton
They could have easily combined both and upgraded the ports but Korg is too busy making “Acoustic Synths” and remaking nostalgia synths. Korg doesn’t want my money sadly.
hola estoy interesado en adquirir una sampler korg , pero antes podrias decirme cual es el maximo de tiempo de la muestra que se puede correr digamos se puede unas de digamos unos 10 min, e buscado esta informacion en foros pero no la encuentro, espero puedas ayudarme.. :P
A que conclusión llegaste? Entoendo que el sampler graba 99 segundos para 1 sample, o 99 samples de 1 segundo (me parece poco) en mi caso particular con un Akai mpc 2500 grabo hasta 24 minutos de un sampler lo guardo en la memoria y puedo grabar otro de 24 (que sería una barabaridad)
Yo me decidí por el azul. Aún no me llega, si gustas compartir tu experiencia, no encontré mucho material del e2 en español