Best service with these guys!!!! Took lots of photos to find the right Ash as they are all different! Just received mine Monday. While it was difficult to hear online, the sound is bigger than life once in your hands. I wanted something without the chime like top end of my 314... More mid and base. I was worried that this would get lost in a band setting, but it punches out even harder than a regular 14 CE
This is great to hear. I would love to appreciate the Taylor guitars, but I haven't found anything that speaks to me that I would consider trying that has a reasonable price and I paid $3k in September for my latest (Adirondack over mahogany 00 Martin). I like Bob Taylor's moral beliefs and Andy Powers has an interesting mind. I just haven't found one that I would risk what they want, especially on an experimental, flavor of the week guitar.
When I clicked on this video I really thought I was going to like the urban ash, but instead I fell in love with the mahogany. I absolutely love the tone, dark, dry, and compressed. Up until I saw this video I was leaning toward an Eastman E10ss, but now I'm not so sure.
The mahogany number sounded louder , toppier to my ears. Then again, I've been sitting under sirens for 30yrs and I'm also an x troop ( big bangs n stuff) . Both were fine to me .Thanks for the demo .
Great compare Chris!! The Ash really does hold it’s own vs a Hog. Quite surprising because when you see a Spruce looking top you don’t expect to hear a deep tone?!
I love my 324ce builders edition which features urban ash back and sides!! Purchased of course from Alamo Music!! All urban ash top, back and sides, sounds great too
Great video as always. Hands down best customer service in the industry! Cooper and team are true professionals. Only place I will ever purchase guitars from again.
Liked the "Kick Ash" very much. It was for sure out there punching through, as I would think it would in a mix. I've been impressed with all the ash that Taylor has brought out. The mahogany was good too. But anything with the Taylor name on it is pretty hard to beat. Thanks
Hey, I’m pleasantly surprised by all the mahogany love here. But … through my iPhone speakers, I was digging the urban ash sound. Though both are gorgeous instruments. This is, I might add, from an equal opportunity player who loves, owns, and enjoys Martin and Taylor. Peace, love, and all that jazz (and folk).
If one is talking about the actual frequency spectrum emitted from these two guitars as a comparison, subjectively from what I'm hearing, the 324 is louder, has more on the bass end across all strings, giving a chime/ring, missing in the 424. The 424 sounds softer, thinner and glassy, less character and just more treble. Also the zebra-ish ash top of the 424 looks weird IMO.
Immediate reaction is that I love the Mahogany MUCH more than the Urban Ash. Yes, the Urban Ash seems to have a louder voice, a wider frequency response BUT I just love and prefer the character of the Mahogany sound presented here.
I spent about 8 months in finding a good guitar for me. I compared Taylor 324Ce with different models in Taylor and other brands in the same or little bit higher price range, but I could not find anything warmer and beautiful than this guitar. Taylor 324Ce can beat any guitars in this price range. I even think it's better than the Builder's Edition.
I’d agree, very different tones. Quite impressed with the ash. It definitely has more character in the low mids but still has the compressed sound. Not as pretty as the hog but
To me the 324 had more individual note articulation while the ash was more inclined to bring its friends along. They're both good sounding. Aesthetically I find the ebony fingerboard for the ash guitar a little off? Can't really explain why. As I said it sounds good, but that particular ash top has some unfortunate grain placement. Looks like floorboarding and I can't unsee it.
I think the ash falls right in the middle tween spruce and mahogany but at the end of the day mahogany is a sound that is unique to itself and by far the most attractive looking!
Surprised to see how many folks agree with me. I strongly prefer the mahogany... It is more articulate with better note separation and the ash's frequency peak just hits my ear in a harsh way. Where walnut has a higher peak than mahogany in a "growly" way, the ash goes a bit... "jangly?" To each their own and I'm interested to see the ironbark-mahogany-ash comparison and see how variable things are between individual guitars within the same woods. If you play 3 ash is there more tonal variation than 3 mahogany? Mahogany being farmed now and this type of ash being random harvest from different conditions.
Exactly what I’m looking for (all natural urban ash top, back and sides) but also wondering how well the urban ash back & sides pairs with either a spruce or mahogany top?
I suspect the difference in sound between these two guitars is more evident if you are in the same room where you are playing them. The subtleties of the sound difference is very difficult to pick up on over RUclips using Apple devices, including ear pods.
I'd like to know what the difference is between "urban " ash and other ash, like swamp or anything used on say a Tele solid body. Is it the same, and the "urban " is just describing where it came from? I have some urban maple in my yard.
As I've never been a fan of Taylor's sound due to the excessive treble (IMO), I really love the sound of the 324! To my ears the 424 sounds lifeless. Playability on most Taylors is second to none so the 324 gives me the sound I prefer along with great playability.
The Urban Ash seemed to enhance all the great qualities of the guitar more. The sounds seemed a bit more crisp than the Mahogany. I have always loved a mahogany guitar... leaning towards an Urban Ash for my next one. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Personally I don’t find all-mahogany guitars work for Celtic music. I like this ash wood, it’s got some of the the brittle spookiness of Tasmanian Blackwood.
i just got a 324ce builders edition I love it. i can confirm that it is great for recordings . i named it phenix because i am a fan of peter framption and this guitar was raised from the ash. lol
Are we at a point in history where guitar players should begin to choose instruments that have had less impact on the resources of the planet? Like we are now doing with other products. The 324 is sweeter sounding to me, but I may be swayed into buying the 424 if the data says it's production was kinder on the planet? 🤔
I suppose that we all hear things differently and if everyone liked the same thing, then all you guys would be chasing my wife. I prefer the hog,it really kicked some ash.
@@charlesbolton8471 actually they're not, they are great guitars mostly, 3 series and up but they are overpriced compared to even American builders for what you get. No question about that
I dont buy guitars very often and even if may not an outstanding guitar player, I feel like I still deserve a premium wood when I make a huge purchase on a guitar.. I will try to save the environment some otherways but please give me a real tonewood guitar. The compression of Urban Ash sounds like a laminate board without its durability.
Best service with these guys!!!! Took lots of photos to find the right Ash as they are all different! Just received mine Monday. While it was difficult to hear online, the sound is bigger than life once in your hands. I wanted something without the chime like top end of my 314... More mid and base. I was worried that this would get lost in a band setting, but it punches out even harder than a regular 14 CE
This is great to hear. I would love to appreciate the Taylor guitars, but I haven't found anything that speaks to me that I would consider trying that has a reasonable price and I paid $3k in September for my latest (Adirondack over mahogany 00 Martin).
I like Bob Taylor's moral beliefs and Andy Powers has an interesting mind. I just haven't found one that I would risk what they want, especially on an experimental, flavor of the week guitar.
When I clicked on this video I really thought I was going to like the urban ash, but instead I fell in love with the mahogany. I absolutely love the tone, dark, dry, and compressed. Up until I saw this video I was leaning toward an Eastman E10ss, but now I'm not so sure.
The mahogany number sounded louder , toppier to my ears. Then again, I've been sitting under sirens for 30yrs and I'm also an x troop ( big bangs n stuff) . Both were fine to me .Thanks for the demo .
That volume bump at around 9:50 though. Great video as always
Great compare Chris!! The Ash really does hold it’s own vs a Hog. Quite surprising because when you see a Spruce looking top you don’t expect to hear a deep tone?!
I love my 324ce builders edition which features urban ash back and sides!! Purchased of course from Alamo Music!! All urban ash top, back and sides, sounds great too
Great video as always. Hands down best customer service in the industry! Cooper and team are true professionals. Only place I will ever purchase guitars from again.
Played one of 424ce all urban ash guitars last night. Excellent guitar, hits all the right notes. Very impressed.
Through my speakers I prefer the sound of the 324 more but both sound really good.
Liked the "Kick Ash" very much. It was for sure out there punching through, as I would think it would in a mix. I've been impressed with all the ash that Taylor has brought out. The mahogany was good too. But anything with the Taylor name on it is pretty hard to beat. Thanks
Fantastic video as usual. I'm not even looking to buy a new guitar and I enjoy the hell out of these videos
Hey, I’m pleasantly surprised by all the mahogany love here. But … through my iPhone speakers, I was digging the urban ash sound. Though both are gorgeous instruments. This is, I might add, from an equal opportunity player who loves, owns, and enjoys Martin and Taylor. Peace, love, and all that jazz (and folk).
I loved the incredibly thorough playing samples. That was great
My ears find the urban ash to sound more articulate but the mahogany to sound more engaging. I’d be thrilled with either one but I’m choosing the hog!
If one is talking about the actual frequency spectrum emitted from these two guitars as a comparison, subjectively from what I'm hearing, the 324 is louder, has more on the bass end across all strings, giving a chime/ring, missing in the 424. The 424 sounds softer, thinner and glassy, less character and just more treble. Also the zebra-ish ash top of the 424 looks weird IMO.
Total opposite of what he said
Immediate reaction is that I love the Mahogany MUCH more than the Urban Ash. Yes, the Urban Ash seems to have a louder voice, a wider frequency response BUT I just love and prefer the character of the Mahogany sound presented here.
Great comparison, I would like to see a all urban ash AD and GT
I spent about 8 months in finding a good guitar for me. I compared Taylor 324Ce with different models in Taylor and other brands in the same or little bit higher price range, but I could not find anything warmer and beautiful than this guitar. Taylor 324Ce can beat any guitars in this price range. I even think it's better than the Builder's Edition.
I have to agree, and I tested several copies of the 324CE against a builders edition and others, hog all the way!
I’d agree, very different tones. Quite impressed with the ash. It definitely has more character in the low mids but still has the compressed sound. Not as pretty as the hog but
I hear chime in the 324. I love both if I was going to buy a guitar today. It would be all 424
To me the 324 had more individual note articulation while the ash was more inclined to bring its friends along. They're both good sounding. Aesthetically I find the ebony fingerboard for the ash guitar a little off? Can't really explain why. As I said it sounds good, but that particular ash top has some unfortunate grain placement. Looks like floorboarding and I can't unsee it.
I think the ash falls right in the middle tween spruce and mahogany but at the end of the day mahogany is a sound that is unique to itself and by far the most attractive looking!
Surprised to see how many folks agree with me. I strongly prefer the mahogany... It is more articulate with better note separation and the ash's frequency peak just hits my ear in a harsh way.
Where walnut has a higher peak than mahogany in a "growly" way, the ash goes a bit... "jangly?"
To each their own and I'm interested to see the ironbark-mahogany-ash comparison and see how variable things are between individual guitars within the same woods. If you play 3 ash is there more tonal variation than 3 mahogany? Mahogany being farmed now and this type of ash being random harvest from different conditions.
Exactly what I’m looking for (all natural urban ash top, back and sides) but also wondering how well the urban ash back & sides pairs with either a spruce or mahogany top?
It's exactly 324 builders edition.
Mahagony top, urban ash back and sides.
But it costs also 600-700 eur more than usual 324ce
I suspect the difference in sound between these two guitars is more evident if you are in the same room where you are playing them. The subtleties of the sound difference is very difficult to pick up on over RUclips using Apple devices, including ear pods.
Loved the Urban Ash sound 👍
I'd like to know what the difference is between "urban " ash and other ash, like swamp or anything used on say a Tele solid body. Is it the same, and the "urban " is just describing where it came from? I have some urban maple in my yard.
As I've never been a fan of Taylor's sound due to the excessive treble (IMO), I really love the sound of the 324! To my ears the 424 sounds lifeless. Playability on most Taylors is second to none so the 324 gives me the sound I prefer along with great playability.
The Urban Ash seemed to enhance all the great qualities of the guitar more. The sounds seemed a bit more crisp than the Mahogany. I have always loved a mahogany guitar... leaning towards an Urban Ash for my next one. Great video, thanks for sharing.
324 all day for me
It is all good and stuff. But it can't beat the sound of Mahogany to my ears.
You’re a good seller. HOG for me✔️
Personally I don’t find all-mahogany guitars work for Celtic music. I like this ash wood, it’s got some of the the brittle spookiness of Tasmanian Blackwood.
i just got a 324ce builders edition I love it. i can confirm that it is great for recordings . i named it phenix because i am a fan of peter framption and this guitar was raised from the ash. lol
I agree urban ash sounds different from mahogany. I prefer mahogany. Had an urban ash GT for a short time and sounded too quiet in my opinion.
You’re welcome. Thanks for all the awesome videos. Helps me choose the tones I’m looking for.
Neither. Can't beat the 324e with Tasmanian blackwood. Love mine
I know now I'm going with custom all mahogany after entertaining the thoughts of an all urban ash. Not liking the top to 424 either!
What’s the song at 8:20
I tune down to D standard, so the brighter 424ce for me…
Even Babe Ruth struck out a lot.
Just call this the Taylor music shop/. With an occasional martin.
Taylor Music Center
Gretsch and Guild…
i thought the ash sounded good, until you played the hog. Both sound good, but the hog wins in my books.
Mahogany sounds better for me...
Are we at a point in history where guitar players should begin to choose instruments that have had less impact on the resources of the planet? Like we are now doing with other products. The 324 is sweeter sounding to me, but I may be swayed into buying the 424 if the data says it's production was kinder on the planet? 🤔
Couple of minutes in and first impression: not sure I could live with the rather dull-sounding bottom end of the urban ash version.
It actually has a more pronounced bottom end in person
324 wins
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I suppose that we all hear things differently and if everyone liked the same thing, then all you guys would be chasing my wife.
I prefer the hog,it really kicked some ash.
Taylors are WAY overpriced. They are decent guitars but...not worth their cost. Check out a Zager or a Breedlove.
Taylor guitars are priced completely in line with other American made guitars.
@@charlesbolton8471 actually they're not, they are great guitars mostly, 3 series and up but they are overpriced compared to even American builders for what you get. No question about that
Ash is a cheap tree 🌴🌴
I dont buy guitars very often and even if may not an outstanding guitar player, I feel like I still deserve a premium wood when I make a huge purchase on a guitar.. I will try to save the environment some otherways but please give me a real tonewood guitar. The compression of Urban Ash sounds like a laminate board without its durability.
I like the mahogany
this is a beautiful guitar,i loved it
clear tone sound good ,mahogany more warm tone