Improving The SMG! - Attachment Pack Update (Fallout 4 Mod)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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I would love to see a few more grip types added to the Deliverer. Some "fancy" stuff, like an Ivory and an engraved Ivory grip. Both could fit the over-the-top Spy aesthetic.
When it comes to the Submachine Gun, the first thing I'm curious about is how compatible it is with the Thompson SMG replacer mod, though I imagine it won't be out of the gate. Attachment-wise, maybe add in a cloth wrapped barrel option, with different texture options that instead make it flag wrapped? There could also always be a bayonet option added, seeing as the vanilla game never had one.
they're totally different models, no chance it's compatible unless you do all the work yourself
Fun fact, apparently the FBI converted some of the old Thompson SMGs into 10 mm Auto back in the 80's, which is kinda funny. Glad to see it in this pack as well, keep it up man!
so, pistol caliber modifications are historically proven things? neat.
They did crazy stuff back then and now that's for sure
@@drivanradosivic1357 yep
@@Matt-md5yt personally, I would make Pipe guns and other junk guns like them(a Junk Stem, PA Luty and so on) be pistol caliber only types, with a rifle not being a modded pipe pistol but more like someone took a tube, made a straight pull bolt out of scrap and some wood from furniture and sorta put that together for a junk bolt rifle and the mod for a Scrap made Anti material rifle is fitting as early or mid game .50 BMG cal option, the .50AE option would need some sort of Amateur Gunsmith tier of gun making for a Pseudo Deagle like pistol and normal ish rifles, SMGs, revolvers, pistols and rocket plus grenade launchers.
I think a long integrated supressor barrel for the delivery would be pretty cool and not that weird.
Like that integrally suppressed makarov
@@quantumquake1092 yes, that one would be perfect!
i was actually thinking that something like that would be pretty cool
Ok now make a cursed tactical attachment pack so we can get the funny cursed tactical Tommy gun (joke)
Cod vanguard moment
So you want cod vanguard in fallout 4, why?
@@danteinpuro319 vanguard gun attachments fit in fallout pretty well.
@@danteinpuro319 Vanguard’s cursed modifications are perfect for Fallout
@@XxDarkxMoth17xX tbf, we all have seen the tanks and vertibirds in the base Fallout world
7:16 Pig is right about what that 'gear-wheel' on the bottom of the Deliverer is - it's a heel magazine release. Some versions of the PPK have the European-style heel magazine release, and some use the usual American-style push-button release, but for some reason, Fallout 4's version has both. I never actually noticed that until now, so thanks for pointing it out!
I love being correct!
Well the Walther PPK is a european gun...
It’d be neat to see the 1928 style Tommygun barrel with foregrip in this pack somehow.
I agree, but that would mean yet even more animations for the submachine gun. Think about it: you would need a total of 4 different animations to work with the vertical foregrip, the vanilla foregrip, the drum magazines, and the stick magazines. It's not impossible, but it is asking for a lot.
I think an old style cutt's compensator would look really cool on the smg. One of the coolest things to see on the real world Tommy gun
Something funny to me about your laser sights working like Fallout 3s aiming. Remember downloading mods back in 2009 to add proper ironsights. Going full circle in 2022!
RH Ironsights, burned in my brain since 2010
I remember looking for a mod that removed ads to a FO3 style in NV back in 2012, guess i'm weird lol
Love the work so far!
Would love to see a .32 or 45 rechamber option for the Deliverer to give some variety between it and the 10mm pistol.
What about an integrally suppressed barrel for the deliverer like the Russian makarov PB pistol? Or an automatic receiver/barrel like the stechkin?
Once this is released, I'm going to combine it with your Assault Rifle Remesh mod and Optics Pack mod, and I'll finally be able to ENJOY using the vanilla weapons since I first started playing Fallout 4! XD
Yeah just my thoughts too!
I love fallout 4 but one thing which it sucks at is weapon/weapon customization variety but that shouldn´t be a problem anymore after Dak and the boys release their packs on after another and i honestly just cant wait for them.
Whilst I love all these new attachments I am a little concerned of how might they fit a completely remodeled Thompson SMG. Can't quite recall which one I was using but it did essentially make it look more like the real thing. I may have to do some editing to use this mod.
I have the same concern, but since even Dak uses it and the optics pack works fine with it, I'm gonna hold out hope that he'll include an optional patch for that mod.
Besides, just imagine how sick these two mods would look together! I doubt he would pass up an opportunity like that.
I love how this mod is coming along, but I have a few personal suggestions.
SMG suggestions:
I like the idea of stick mags being added for SMG, but I feel like the mags should alter the receiver mesh by adding a proper mag well, and not just empty space. I also think the medium magazine should be curved a little bit to justify its length. A longer "Typewriter" style barrel would be cool, plus a proper set of small magnification sights. Also, maybe add a rubber pad to the recoil compensating stock to make it unique.
Deliverer suggestions:
I don't have much for this, maybe an experimental burst fire option. What I really hope is that it will be compatible with the Generic Deliverer Mod.
for the Tommy gun, some of the ammo conversion mods could work, especially if separate from receiver mods. a 1928 inspired barrel would be great.
For the Deliverer, a semi auto fire and full auto fire mode modification, a .38 and .45 caliber mod as a option would also work. a barrel mod that allows for silencer barrel and maybe a underbarrel foregrip with laser sights could work as well.
I am surprised that the ammo conversion mods aren't a separate modification option already in the game. But then I also think as Casual and Classic new game setting(Fallout 4 style RPG for Casual and Fallout 3/NV for Classic) would work for RPG elements, that way Casual still exists for players new to the RPG genre and Classic is for those that already knew about it.
My suggestion for the Submachine gun is actually to make your stick mag a taaad bit wider as it looks really weirdly thin, then maybe a little longer standard barrel variant and last but not least it could get and front pistol grip if that is possible for you since you have to alter the holding animation a bit to accomadate the new foregrip.
Otherwise it looks very promising!
make it a double stack or even a triple stack (not sure those exist) to fit the width and it can essentially be the stick version of a drum.
@@astrothebadger double stack box mags of the standard thompson exist but Yeah its fallout. Make it a tad bitte wider and push 30-40 cartridges in it it will fit nicely.
@@astrothebadger I mean, I think a triple stack stick mag could work. I know the Finnish made a quad stack stick mag for one of their SMGs at one point
the laser grip makes me want to redownload the game. I don't really see that in games. Thank yall for your good work
I agree with your view point regarding "lore-friendly" but love your work. Please do continue making more attachments.
Do you plan on adding the foregrip to the Submachine Gun?
We dont have animations for it so we can't
I don't think so it would be great but there are animation problems
I hope there is version that has the laser in its own slot so you can still use a different sight model for cosmetic purposes.
Might I suggest you add a horizontal magazine option to the SMG, like the Sten. You could use the animation from the pipe smg even.
DAK and PIG are you guys good friends in real life or just working together.
also can we please get a 10mm suppressed receiver because combing those design's and the 10mm ammo type would be PERFECT.
We're good friends online
@@Pigness7 OK. well love the work. please keep it up and have god speed and god bless.
Given that Fallout is a sci-fi game, I wish there were some high-tech pseudoscience attachments for the ballistic weapons. Might be better for a separate pack, but I'd love to see some things thrown in that are kind of "out there". Like muzzle attachments that irradiate, electrify, or accelerate bullets, a "pneumatic assembly" that reduces recoil and increases rate of fire at the cost of being heavy as hell, a reflex sight that has night vision or target marking, maybe a targeting computer that lowers AP cost and/or raises VATS accuracy instead of a laser sight, or give some guns a rechamber into being a gauss weapon (whether they actually use 2mm EC or not).
A grip on the handguard of the Thompson would be great, maybe as a stock modification? Coffin mags would be great for the look of the stick mag but with better capacity
Super stoked to see you guys tackle the energy weapons. I adore the vibes of Fo4s energy weapons so much.
Everything in fallout 4 is ridiculously bulky and I'm not a fan of the laser weapons' milk carton mesh, but I am excited to see what Dak and Pig come up with for attachments!
Oh man i can't wait to see what you do with the Laser rifle because like i don't hate the design of the AER-9 and the AEP-7 the rifle and pistol but they somehow made the biggest boxiest weapons somehow even bigger and boxier to a annoying degree.
I sent some stuff you might be able to use to improve them.
that actually cause their animations are super close to the screen which is fixed by a simple animation mod
@@thesadslav419 I know but surely they could tell it was to close to the screen in development.
@@dossiebigham9113 youd think they would, its also actually a surprisingly slim weapon
I just hate that they're in your face and dear god the institute guns they can make literal humans on a assembly line basically but they can't design a laser gun?
Like they're supposed to be advanced like if anyone was going to have some more slimmer sleeker more modern styled equipment it would be them Like fore instance the Wattz 1000 Laser pistol we haven't seen since Fallout 1 2 & tactics it was this small berretta M0 looking laser pistol with a small micro fusion cell powering it. Give them a carbon copy of that and call it the advanced institute pistol or have something like the Wattz 2000 but a carbon copy that the institute makes
Sure the standard instate weapons have a higher fire rate but with how weak they are compared to the normal ones it doesn't make up for the lack of damage It doesn't do electric damage to least make it better against synths bots and power armor or anything its just the worse version of a 200 year old bare bones laser weapon.
M9 like the old US service pistol
That's laser sight on PPK seems like the same pistol grip for Tokarev from Escape from Tarkov! Cool!
Irl it would be a heel mag release like a makarov, or numerous other pistols.
Bethesda however decided to use a different reload animation and slapped a button release on it but still kept the heel release cause they probably didn't know what it did but thought it looked cool.
Honestly as much as id rather see it use a heel release animation it would be complicated and too difficult i think. It would probably be better to edit the mesh and just remove that heel release since no one sees it anyway outside of the workbench view or taking pictures of it.
Be neat to see barrel for the sub machine gun based off the M1923 model Thompson, with a longer barrel and bipod for longer engagements or something like that
If you ask me both of you are doing a great job 👍
By the way sibce you and Pig added a drum mag for the Deliverer why not adding an autimatic receiver for it aswell ?
Coming in the junk pack
I suggest making the base damage of the 45 recievers higher and the 10mm can be as strong as they used to be. Also maybe completely rechamber the deliverer into 38?
I would say put the Deliverer comfort grip on the recoil compensating stock.
What I really hated about the thompson was it being a lead-based super soaker...
50 rounds barely scratches your average gunner! That is a problem!
recon scope would be an welcome addition
For the Deliver, how about something like an XL slide/upper receiver (long slide) and XL grip? Kind of like what Sig Sauer currently does with their pistol models. Basically, depending on personal preference, you can do an XL upper receiver and grip for a full size service pistol feel, or maybe mix it up and do a long slide with short grip or vice versa?
Really impressive work on two rather underutilized weapons in Fallout 4, but as a few people have said already, a few ideas do come to mind.
First with the Submachine Gun, I'd say the stick mags look really nice, but a bit on the skinny side. Is it possible to thicken them up? Would really help with the aesthetic look your trying to emulate. Another idea for alternate iron sights, if your looking for options, would be the full on ladder sight and if possible one utilizing the peep hole on the original sight instead of the v notch.
Secondly, with the addition of the drum magazine for the Deliverer, it's practically begging for a burst or fully automatic option. And if your unsure about barrel options, maybe some longer slides are possible?
Overall, really looking forward to the pack's release.
If you guys want help with gun mod ideas on historical firearm types, you should email or message Jonathan of the British Arms Museum and Ian on Forgotten Weapons, or even Brandon Herrera for the more wackyish ideas.
Your mods are a work of art keep up the amazing work
I think you guys really should have made a wooden stock for the Deliverer
Ik it’s modeled after the PPK but it’s not too different looking from the Russian full auto pistol the Stechkin
Also I hope you do the hunting rifle. Make it right handed and give it some fitting magazines for the 50. Cal conversions. Maybe some new cool stocks to go along?
There are already some pretty good right handed HR mods out there, I just hope the attachment pack is compatible with them.
@@bakedbeans7879 Dak said the ak Attachments will be compatible with right handed animations. So I assume the other weapons will be too
The only thing I would request is to have all 3 of the west tech scopes available for the smg......
One thing that i want is laser sights that's all, but other things are pretty interesting too, good job
this gonna be awesome keep it up guys!!!
Y'alls dynamic tho. Dak u navigated all those interactions really well n kept it funny while staying on track.
Well done Gents 🍻 always a pleasure.
The deliverer should have a mod where is change itself completely like a lurger
Why does pig always sound like he just woke up? Hope that yall are having a good one anyways.
I'm like really baked
For the Deliverer you could have sights that are just glued onto the top (maybe a junk/raider mod?)
The "little hear wheel thing" on the bottom of the deliverer is the magazine release
This attachment pack is already gearing up to be an essential lore-friendly mod...I can't freakin wait for its release!!
My only issue is like the other vanilla weapons, the eject chamber is on the left of the weapon when it should be on the right. I don't know why Bethesda likes to design weapoms this way but it looks so incorrect
Hey dak, have you played Metro Exodus by chance?
I was thinking maybe you could make so attachments for the hand made rifle to look like the hand made ak-12 from Sam's story dlc?
Or the hand made 1911 attachments for the 10mm pistol?
I'd love to see an alternate muzzle device for the shotgun/splitter laser rifle config that changes its shot pattern into a wave like duckbill chokes on IRL shotguns. Alternatively, how about making a version of the shotgun muzzle device that would fill the role of a shotgun slug in a regular shotgun mod, except instead of putting all the power into a single projectile, you get a super neat, nearly-super accurate but very small square of 9 rays, since, y'know, a laser weapon's supposed to be the pinnacle of precision. Also a silent receiver would be a nice option!
Hey Dak. Would you consider adding a straight rifle stock for the western revolver, sorta like one on the Remington New Model Army carbine?
will it have compatibility support with some of the big weapon mods.
C.R.A.P.
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See Through Scopes.
Lowered Weapons.
Yes
Wait people still use CRAP? Wack
@@Pigness7 YES really love the immersion it provides i know its says semi-defunct.
any future plans for that project.
Which mod are you using for the muzzle flashes? Spitfire?
0:53 *shows us a drum mag* ...
Man this pack was awesome. I have it downloaded. You *almost* made this perfect man. I LOVE the heat shield barrels and the stick mags, but man. An 1897 style bayonet and boom. Done. Perfection.
I've always loved the Submachine gun in Fallout 4 but it was severely nerfed doing about half-damage as a normal 45. cal combat rifle which I even made a mod boosting the damage for to that amount.
All I ask is for those drums to be scaled to be bigger. That tiny '50' drum is such a peever and I don't get how Bethesda thought it looked good. x_x
A recomendation for for an attachment for the SMG: the classic wooden foregrip with the finger grooves!
A recomendation for the Deliverer: you could go with a longer, sleeved barrel, and use that sleeve as an attachment point for more advanced stuff.
This is THE "tactical" sneaky gun in the game: it should have all the sneaky toys and a few more on top! Recon scopes, sniper scopes, see-through-walls scopes, I-can-see-what-you-had-for-lunch scopes, range finders, balistic computers (maybe not guided bullets, but insane buffs to accuracy and critical damage). Maybe a rechamber to something kinda crazy, like railgun ammo, at the expense of being single shot?
It's a PPK, a.k.a. James Bond's pistol, and this is Fallout, go CRAZY! 😋
a neat idea for the deliverer if you want goofy stuff in the junk pack to go with the walther p38 idea: attachments that make it look like G1 megatron's gun mode, with the long over the barrel suppressor, scope, and stock. maybe an option to make the SMG look even more like the prototypes from 1918 and 1919
pig is a goat
For tweaks? I'd recommend buffing the SMG's base damage, get rid of the vanilla 50 round drum mags, and reset the 100 round drums to give their users 50 rounds per mag. Was never a fan of the SMG being this bullet vomit gun that had such poor damage output inspite of being chambered in .45ACP. A bullet which is meant to be pretty gnarly for a pistol cartridge to get hit with in CQC.
The Deliverer is a no brainer. You make it available in 22 LR, .32 and .38 like the real thing. That may be all it needs except ability to craft in in a weapon forge. I am against crafting in the chemistry station as it's generally too easy. Making even pipe or handmade weapons should not be that easy.
The Tommy gun I can see your point about it not needing much. I think 20 rd magazines and quick eject mags are all it's missing. i think there may have been a few calibres tried but not very well received. Now you say that there are mods for the Tommy gun and deliverer that do rechamber but they are not complete, trust me. A non buggy mod that did it and added crafting to the deliverer would be endorsed I think. What you did with stick mags is okay, I'll see when I run it by my Toon Mr. Test. Oh sticks reload quicker than drums but not sure if you can mod that? Also the weight is higher per round. A 20 round stick weighs less than 40% of a 50 round drum.
As for attachments what they do need is attachments that take advantage of polymer and ceramic and aluminum. Things that make them lighter and cost less A.P. The Deliverer is so heavy because the PPK is made out of solid steel. A maker in S.A. made a clone that replaced ever part that did not need to be steel with aluminum or polymer parts. He made a bigger easier to hold weapon called the Thunder with better sights, trigger pull and weighs less. I will not use a mod where the attachments add weight. I tried that and in V.A.T.S. the weapons were mostly useless.
As for the .38. 10 mm is not viable in a blowback operated pistol or an open bolt SMG. Look at the weight, the Deliverer is 5 pounds! You cannot use that for a long period without fatigue or injury and even weighing twice as much as .380 acp it's going to have killer recoil because the 10mm is too powerful. Also it's supersonic so the suppressor is useless and a muzzle brake or compensator is needed. So why .38; less ap, less recoil, more accurate. As for the SMG 10 mm doubles recieiver weight and recoil etc? Remember in survival ammo weighs a ton and strong back is nerfed. Is that good enough reason?
at about 3:25 i was wondering why the barrel seemed so.. flaccid.. but then i realized it was the hose on the workbench, silly adult jokes aside this pack is something i wanted for a long time, seems like bethesda only made the pipe weapons have deep customizeation
Could you please consider Visual Reload compatibility patch? I assume the mags that will be dropped by vanilla weapons will look the same as their default mags so something like deliverer's drum mag or the submachine gun's stick mag will look out of place. That would be really amazing if you guys could consider a patch for that mod but either way thanks for contributing to the FO4 modding community, it is very much appreciated :)
I hope it will works with WWII Weapon Rebalance, because that SMG damage... I feel it was nerfed by Bethesda for the same reason the institute Laser, doing the Valentine quest early the triggermen with "real" smg would have been too serious a challenge for some player, like they didn't want Fort Hagen's Synths to be too brutal with lasers.
Ideas for the Thompson... I'm always a fan of using composite materials for high-end Furniture, grips and stocks it would cool the Thompson had something like that too. Doing something with the silver shroud Thompson would be fun for those that want to use the Thompson late game. Something locked behind gunnet 4 like a 44 mag conversion or burst fire or maybe an electrified muzzle attachment. I don't know I'm really stretching at this point. As for the deliverer I'm with you I don't know if there's much you can do with it that isn't a rechamber or a skin. Maybe a muzzle attachment that isn't a silencer like a an electric or radium... thing, but you know everyone's going to want the silencer so I don't know.
On a side note, I like the Thompson but it sits in this weird place on the level list that by the time you get it you're already moved on to the combat rifle. I really don't play Commando builds, but for those who do they really should be getting the Thompson a little earlier with the stick mag as standard it would help with balance if the drum was locked behind I don't know gun nut 3 or something. But you guys aren't really going to be doing any level list/balance changes I imagine. Its been mentioned many times you want to make this mod as compatible as possible and that's understandable.
With the custom 10mm reciever on the Thompson having that guard I can't help but imagine a 12-gauge conversion, like some sort of retro AA12.
I wish the idea was more feasible, though with the reciever and magazine lengths it wouldn't make sense.
Will the Submachine Gun be compatible with War Daddy's righthand animations? I have a feeling it won't but thought I'd ask.
I was just watching ruclips.net/video/FoiUoRqMW8M/видео.html from youtube channel Mobius Modding it was bout mod he's working on, including mass produce Laser Musket 2.0 and hope ya check it out.
With all the work you, Pigness, and Jkruse do for these weapons in Fallout 4, I wish I could play Fallout 4 again. Not going to happen any time soon as my old XB crapped out and I don't have a good enough graphic drive nor the memory to play Fallout on my cheap PC.
This might be out of scope but for the SMG would it be possible to make a receiver that converts the weapon to Energy Cells and turn it into a fallout 4 Laser RCW? I don't know how that would interact with stuff like suppressors and animations might be janky but could be a cool addition to the pack.
This mod is amazing but an over sight is that the Thompson SMG replacer mod isn’t compatible with this mod. If anyone knows any way to make it work please let me know, thank you in advance
@Degenerate Dak, can your add the real life version of the m1928/m1a1 stock? since it doesn't require animations, I think you can easily do that down the line as you have more stuff to work on.
If a rail is mounted to the slide, it will move with the rail. I have no idea where you thought it makes no sense. Try watching some shooting videos of pistols with optics mounted on them. You’ll see what I’m talking about.
One thing that I don’t like about your laser sights is that when you aim down the sights, you’re just using the laser. What if I wanted to use the actual sights or an optic and reserve the laser for more accurate hip fire? Don’t have that option with the current setup.
Are you not gonna add the iconic Tommy Gun foregrip?
I wish smg has foregrip too, and i think it will be cool if they have dark green color tint option like a dillinger lv3 from godfather 1.
[Sorry for that wield english. Because, i'm not using english mostly time]
is the attachment pack will clips through the Thompson SMG replacer I remember downloading Stick Mags for submachine gun mod it clips through the replacer mod
On the topic of the Deliverer's sights being attached to the slide.
What about the Handmade Rifle's reflex sight asset models?
That asset is suppose to attach the the base of the gun over the slide's pathing of firing back and forth, but of course it's way too big and long for the deliverer.
Or is that too _"tactical"?_
also, interesting thing could be changing the smg into rifle with nuka world AK ammo. Before there was choosen that Thompson 1921 will be an smg, there was thought about bigger bullets, but technology couldnt allow for it
Yo love your new assault rifle redesign. It's the sole reason it's now allowed back in my game
I recognize that this is a really old video, but since the mod is still in development I figured I'd put it out there- not having a PB Makarov style integral suppressor barrel sounds like such a missed opportunity.
You should add a foregrip for the SMG that's just a classic Tommy Gun foregrip at the front but it's moved forward just enough so you can hold it like the base game, just as a funny
The Thompson Foregrip needs to be added make it a full on Chicago Typewriter!
i think a barrel extension, similar to the 10mm, would be cool instead of a thin pipe going out the end of the gun. make it a little square in a corner here and there. as to the compact laser sight idea at 6:30 ish, itd be cool to have a mini fallout glock with a square slide on the more powerful receivers.
edit: i think that a new grip for the smg would be nice, maybe like the one for i think it was the hmar grip in the pack, or the default grips from it since the light stock is here. also, some alternate ironsights would be cool too. maybe they could be entire new models or pre-existing ones, like the 10mm
sorry if this is a lot of text, i just wanted to get this out lol
As the alien pulse rifle was based around the Thompson, you could do a inspired parts around it. An excuse to give the smg a carry handle....
Will this work with the compact pistol mod? Adds a common version of the Deliverer to the game.
Actually, that looks more like a push button safety on the left side right to the bottom of the Deliverer's slide and top left of the pistol grip. Yes, that definitely is a Euro mag release on the bottom back of the magwell.
cant wait for the laser rifle and as a suggestion I would an auto barrel that isn't two giant normal barrels that just spin its not very tactical or innovative if you ask me, or even a sniper barrel that fits the gun's iconic image in previous games and maybe even a shotgun like laser rifle like the multi beam from NV.
Add 5.7 caliber to the pistol would be cool for armor penetration or 22lr for more stealth and sneak attack damage like say 3x more damage.
The submachine gun stick magazine looks a little on the skinny side. Thompson magazines were double stack. Other than that, looks good!
Yeah just what i thought too.
Wrote about the same comment as you xD
For the deliverer, could you add automatic receivers?
Thanking that too with the drum mag would make a great mag dump weapon
That heel catch is actually the mag release, Bethesda just doesn't know how guns work
i feel like the thing bethesda wanted with the thompson was for us to feel like a 30s gangster, which is almost impossible when we dont have the iconic front grip lol. sad that we need modders to do that kinda stuff.
Is it going compatible with Right Handed animation for Vanilla weapons?
was kinda hoping the smg would have some foregrip attachments both home made and wood and or polymer Thompson style grips. great progress none the less.
Immaculate mod sire!
U guys should make modification for Thompson so it will deal more damage but do it like damage modification in modern weap mods so it would be not op on enemies)
A long slide receiver would be cool for the Deliverer. I don't know what the stats would be though.
Someone needs to tell Dak that Forgotten Weapons got their hands on .30 Carbine Version of Thompson
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How about a laser magazine, receiver and barrel, so you can turn the submachine gun into the laser rcw?