Good Lord mister. Don't let that Glock touch that 1911. Do you want to contaminate your new CMP pistol and have the wrath of the Almighty (and John Browning) haunt you?
I would say with much certainty that 1911 was used in Vietnam. It was refurbished at the beginning of the war and the end of the war. If it wasn’t used in Vietnam, I would see no reason for it to be refurbished again in 1973.
I just got my call and got the rack grade because that's all they had. I'm hoping to get something like you have. I want a piece of history and while I wanted a field, I think the rack will have more history. I can buy (and currently have) perfect 1911s but this will sit in a place of honor next to my M1 Garand. Now I just have to wait..... I hate wait. 8) Update with an after range video if you would.
Well mine is resting with my Garand as well. The wait is absolute torture. I’m certain that if they hired a bigger staff they could get the process more quick and efficient, but I know they’re limited on how many the government can release to them. On that note with the current political picture I’m happy this program is happening at all. I never got confirmation it shipped or anything, I called my FFL a couple days after the CNP call and it arrived. What a day you have coming! Thanks for coming by!
I’m surprised, when they called me it was rack and field. I saw the American Rifleman article that showed the crates they are stored in, I don’t know if they just pull the next three pistols as they call, or what? I was called early September.
I rec'd my Rack Grade the day after the phone call. A nice Remington Rand slide and matching frame (early 1945 mfg) with a Flannery Bolt Co. Barrel. Not refinished. I am pleased. It is history.
Browsing through the CMP forums and what others have posted, I have seen several a that were in very rough shape. I feel like I got lucky I feel like my pistol is actually in better condition than my rifle. But in a lot of cases I’d say it was the other way around. Thanks for coming by!
11/17/2022 Received my M1911a1 from CMP, Service Grade. 1943 Remington Rand frame and a NO NAME REPRODUCTION SLIDE. I found out IS a genuine Colt made National Match Hard slide with matching chrome lined barrel. Thought I had gotten a "mutt" but, certainly changed my opinion of my pistol. Thanks CMP.. Oh, MSGT USAF ret former SP and Armorer ('73-'95) UPDATE: In doing more research I found out the one I received was re arsenal in Mount Rainier Arsenal the "MR" over strike on the U S Army Ordnance acceptance "crossed cannons". Which are still partially visible. Range days have been very good with the pistol. I can ring steel at 40+ yards accurately.
That’s a nice piece to be luck of the draw, as they all are. And a service grade to boot! Best of luck with your piece of history. Thanks for coming by!
I’ve learned stalking the CMP forums and RUclips accounts that it is definitely a gamble regardless the grade you order. You can wind up with one better or wind up with one worse than you were expecting. Hopefully they open up future rounds for folks to put in another order especially if you were disappointed the first time around. Thanks for coming by!
@@cornfromajar3222 CMP will only sell you ONE 1911. You cannot order another one if you were disappointed the first time around. The CMP website states: "If you have already purchased a 1911 whether from the previous Random Number Generator system or the Auction site, YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO PURCHASE ANOTHER 1911 at this time."
Your barrel has a date 85 which is 1985. The factory info is also on the barrel. You can't date the Ithaca slide. The serial number on the frame will tell you when the Remington Rand was made.
Always get a sharp knife for unboxings.Thought a bout a CMP 45 but a hear they want several back ground cheaks and other paper work. Do have 2 M1 rifles and a 1903 .
I will definitely use a different knife next time. The CMP does a background check when you buy the pistol. The second background check is done by the FFL where you have the pistol transferred to. In my case I filled out a form at the gun store and the clerk ran the background check through an online system. My biggest challenge through process was finding an FFL - my first choice wasn’t accepting transfers and my second choice required too much additional paperwork. Thanks for watching and thanks for coming by!
Well im happy for you. I'm waiting finally got a number 31,000 range. I'll be surprised if it happens. They have really bad communication. And I write them to say u never get any emails from then no junk no info and no number. I got a response telling me my number buy still nothing. I will be so happy to own or be the caregiver of this piece of America history. Very cool.
The CMP is not going to win any awards for customer service or efficiency that is for sure. (I have another video up about that). If you follow the forums, this thread will tell you where they are in the sequence of RGNs. I watched this like a hawk waiting for mine. forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=274428&page=77 I can say this, if you have an RGN they will contact you either via phone or email. From the initial contact you have 5 days to get back to them. After I sent my packet, my phone number changed so I was in my email several times daily when the forums showed they were coming close.
The Rifle will ship to your door if you pass the background check. For the pistols, the CMP does one and it ships to an FFL of your choosing- and anyone with an FFL counts, as long as they can sign for the pistol when it arrives. Be it yourself with an FFL, someone you know who has an FFL, or a storefront. Thanks for coming by!
I think when I first got it, it did a quick search on the barrel and those markings but I say quick- probably less than 25 minutes. Your insight is more than I learned. I know from experience that chrome lining is very likely a products of the 60’s when that was popular likely from the Springfield Armory rebuild. I may revisit this. That’s for the info and thank for coming by!
Mine arrived today. Field grade. Looks very clean, very nice finish, new mag. Fired very little I believe. 1944, Ithaca/RR slide, by the serial # Did not come with the CMP clamcase, just a black case, kinda flimsy.
I’m a little surprised they didn’t send one of the nicer cases, following the CMP forums, everyone who made mention of the case posted a picture of one similar to mine. I ended up selling a revolver and included that case because I really didn’t have much room to store it. I keep my 1911 in a soft padded case now which is more practical for me. Great to hear that you finally received yours, the wait and process is crazy. Best of luck!
No they won’t ship to your door unless you have an FFL. It required two background checks, a motorized form, and when they called they ask what FFL you want it shipped to. Thanks for coming by!
Now I know the possibility of them shipping a loaded firearm is almost none. That said, I'm going to clear this weapon before I go looking down the barrel I don't know about you!
Nice that you have that 1911. Good luck with it. By the way, you kept handling that, pointing at your head and never checked to see if it was loaded. That is the FIRST thing you have to do.
Excellent point. Although I “trusted” the CMP to send an unloaded firearm, I should have demonstrated that on camera for my own benefit and the benefit of the viewer. Thanks for coming by!
So you got a dog like I did. A mixed breed mut. Mine is a 1944 Colt with a Remington Rand slide, with what I think is a new blued barrel. $1,000 for a half breed 1911. Maybe in future years, with the documentation, it’ll be worth more. I think I could have bought a very nice new 1911 for $1,000. I feel ripped off. I’d feel a LOT better if the slide and receiver came from the same manufacturer. I took off those shitty plastic grips and put on a nice double diamond set from Altamont. I replaced the sear spring with a reduced pressure sear spring from Cylinder & Slide. It’s an OK 1911, that shoots pretty accurately. But after, almost 2 years, I still feel I was ripped off by CMG. To me, the thousand bucks I paid for this mut wasn’t a big deal. What pissed me off was the CMG came across as doing a good thing for American 191 fans, and what I got was a MUT!
Well let me assure you ,,, you have made money!!! If you’re not happy just put it up for sale on the CMP, CMP, CMP, not CMg, forum and watch how fast it sells and watch how much money you make in less than 24 hours!!!!!
I mean I get what you’re saying, but mix/match is how the majority of surplus US firearms are… hence why matching parts firearms go for a premium. It’s the same with the Garands, springfields, and carbines they’ve sold. They were quite clear that the majority of them would have been re-arsenal pistols which should have told you exactly what you should expect; pistols that were sent back to Anniston to be completely worked over with parts replaced/finishes redone where necessary. The complaint I personally had, and why I didn’t bother with it, was the fact that so many may be coming with civilian parts. Which apparently didn’t matter to you, considering you replaced a bunch of stuff anyway lmao. Shitty plastic grips… like if you didn’t want a legit surplus pistol how it would have been issued why did you buy one lmao
@@GetTheFO You make good points. It would have been nice if the slide and frame were from the same manufacturer. Mine has absolutely no armory markings - none. I can put the grips and other parts I removed and make it like it came to me. Mi have a 1918 1911 that was a WWI take home, so nice contrast to the A1.
I understand what you’re saying, to me the process alone and the time it takes definitely can use some improvements. I would think if someone didn’t care too much for the gun that you get, depending on the state you live in, you could take it to a gun show and sell it for way more that what you have in it. It is an inconvenience I guess to go through the process to search for a buyer to let it go for the right person looking. But anyhow thanks for dropping a comment and thanks for coming by!
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Wow that’s the nicest rack grade I’ve seen.
I do feel like I got lucky especially after seeing rack grades posted in the CMP forums!
Bloke chill u done did great yank
Dawg korngrats bucko. Booja...booyaw
Thank for coming by!
Good Lord mister. Don't let that Glock touch that 1911. Do you want to contaminate your new CMP pistol and have the wrath of the Almighty (and John Browning) haunt you?
Haha thanks for coming by!
I would say with much certainty that 1911 was used in Vietnam. It was refurbished at the beginning of the war and the end of the war. If it wasn’t used in Vietnam, I would see no reason for it to be refurbished again in 1973.
I agree. The proof is almost in the stamps. Thanks for coming by!
FJA = Frank J. Atwood Lt. Col., USA M1911A1 .45 Auto Pistols Inspector
Thanks for the info! And thanks for coming by!
I just got my call and got the rack grade because that's all they had. I'm hoping to get something like you have. I want a piece of history and while I wanted a field, I think the rack will have more history.
I can buy (and currently have) perfect 1911s but this will sit in a place of honor next to my M1 Garand. Now I just have to wait..... I hate wait. 8)
Update with an after range video if you would.
Well mine is resting with my Garand as well. The wait is absolute torture. I’m certain that if they hired a bigger staff they could get the process more quick and efficient, but I know they’re limited on how many the government can release to them.
On that note with the current political picture I’m happy this program is happening at all.
I never got confirmation it shipped or anything, I called my FFL a couple days after the CNP call and it arrived. What a day you have coming!
Thanks for coming by!
I was just called today - only rack available. I'll se how I did soon.
I’m surprised, when they called me it was rack and field. I saw the American Rifleman article that showed the crates they are stored in, I don’t know if they just pull the next three pistols as they call, or what? I was called early September.
I rec'd my Rack Grade the day after the phone call. A nice Remington Rand slide and matching frame (early 1945 mfg) with a Flannery Bolt Co. Barrel. Not refinished. I am pleased. It is history.
Just got the call today...I had the choice of Rack, Rack or Rack....so Rack it is...I hope mine is as nice as this one.
I did get a m1 from them but all there 1911s are cool as a history thing but just to beat up to me. The m1 I got from them is great though.
Browsing through the CMP forums and what others have posted, I have seen several a that were in very rough shape. I feel like I got lucky I feel like my pistol is actually in better condition than my rifle. But in a lot of cases I’d say it was the other way around. Thanks for coming by!
That's an old government 45 it's a beautiful thing
Thanks a lot I’m very thankful for the one I got. Thanks for coming by!
11/17/2022
Received my M1911a1 from CMP, Service Grade. 1943 Remington Rand frame and a NO NAME REPRODUCTION SLIDE. I found out IS a genuine Colt made National Match Hard slide with matching chrome lined barrel. Thought I had gotten a "mutt" but, certainly changed my opinion of my pistol. Thanks CMP..
Oh, MSGT USAF ret former SP and Armorer ('73-'95) UPDATE: In doing more research I found out the one I received was re arsenal in Mount Rainier Arsenal the "MR" over strike on the U S Army Ordnance acceptance "crossed cannons". Which are still partially visible. Range days have been very good with the pistol. I can ring steel at 40+ yards accurately.
That’s a nice piece to be luck of the draw, as they all are. And a service grade to boot! Best of luck with your piece of history. Thanks for coming by!
Looks better than my Field Grade. I think they just charge an extra $100.
I’ve learned stalking the CMP forums and RUclips accounts that it is definitely a gamble regardless the grade you order. You can wind up with one better or wind up with one worse than you were expecting. Hopefully they open up future rounds for folks to put in another order especially if you were disappointed the first time around. Thanks for coming by!
@@cornfromajar3222 CMP will only sell you ONE 1911. You cannot order another one if you were disappointed the first time around. The CMP website states:
"If you have already purchased a 1911 whether from the previous Random Number Generator system or the Auction site, YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO PURCHASE ANOTHER 1911 at this time."
I received my service grade in early May
Thanks a lot. I’m glad to have it and my son will inherit it one day. Thanks for coming by!
Your barrel has a date 85 which is 1985. The factory info is also on the barrel. You can't date the Ithaca slide. The serial number on the frame will tell you when the Remington Rand was made.
Good information, thank you for sharing and thanks for coming by!
An investment you’ll never regret!
And to this day I have not. Thanks for coming by!
Always get a sharp knife for unboxings.Thought a bout a CMP 45 but a hear they want several back ground cheaks and other paper work. Do have 2 M1 rifles and a 1903 .
I will definitely use a different knife next time.
The CMP does a background check when you buy the pistol. The second background check is done by the FFL where you have the pistol transferred to. In my case I filled out a form at the gun store and the clerk ran the background check through an online system. My biggest challenge through process was finding an FFL - my first choice wasn’t accepting transfers and my second choice required too much additional paperwork. Thanks for watching and thanks for coming by!
Well im happy for you.
I'm waiting finally got a number 31,000 range.
I'll be surprised if it happens. They have really bad communication. And I write them to say u never get any emails from then no junk no info and no number. I got a response telling me my number buy still nothing.
I will be so happy to own or be the caregiver of this piece of America history.
Very cool.
The CMP is not going to win any awards for customer service or efficiency that is for sure. (I have another video up about that).
If you follow the forums, this thread will tell you where they are in the sequence of RGNs. I watched this like a hawk waiting for mine.
forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=274428&page=77
I can say this, if you have an RGN they will contact you either via phone or email. From the initial contact you have 5 days to get back to them. After I sent my packet, my phone number changed so I was in my email several times daily when the forums showed they were coming close.
Thanks for coming by!
Just got the call today...my # was 29502. Rack grade only right now.
@Bob Smith that's great news. Really ill be happy with whatever is available.
There just an important part of our history.
Thanks
So yours came to your door by Fed Ex like a CMP rifle? It didn't go to a FFL? Or it did go to a FFL and they taped the box back up?
The Rifle will ship to your door if you pass the background check. For the pistols, the CMP does one and it ships to an FFL of your choosing- and anyone with an FFL counts, as long as they can sign for the pistol when it arrives. Be it yourself with an FFL, someone you know who has an FFL, or a storefront. Thanks for coming by!
@@cornfromajar3222 Did you have to do a 4473 at the FFL like any other gun purchase?
nice barrel marked 779👍 i think its the competition barrel
I think when I first got it, it did a quick search on the barrel and those markings but I say quick- probably less than 25 minutes. Your insight is more than I learned. I know from experience that chrome lining is very likely a products of the 60’s when that was popular likely from the Springfield Armory rebuild. I may revisit this. That’s for the info and thank for coming by!
cmp uses nice cases.
They do. My Garand came in a good case too. Thanks for coming by!
Looks pretty good for rack! ( Waiting on 26,7@@)
Thanks! And thank you for coming by!
Mine arrived today. Field grade. Looks very clean, very nice finish, new mag. Fired very little I believe. 1944, Ithaca/RR slide, by the serial # Did not come with the CMP clamcase, just a black case, kinda flimsy.
I’m a little surprised they didn’t send one of the nicer cases, following the CMP forums, everyone who made mention of the case posted a picture of one similar to mine. I ended up selling a revolver and included that case because I really didn’t have much room to store it. I keep my 1911 in a soft padded case now which is more practical for me. Great to hear that you finally received yours, the wait and process is crazy. Best of luck!
So you got yours shipped at home like they do with the garlands?
On this last run they have to ship them to your ffl!
No they won’t ship to your door unless you have an FFL. It required two background checks, a motorized form, and when they called they ask what FFL you want it shipped to. Thanks for coming by!
Forward slide was dipped for hardening.
Thanks!
Contract barrel,Anniston
Great info, Thanks for coming by!
The marble needs a little work!!!
Sure does especially after I went back and watched it. I should of used a different knife for this. Thanks for coming by!
Now I know the possibility of them shipping a loaded firearm is almost none. That said, I'm going to clear this weapon before I go looking down the barrel I don't know about you!
It is impossible to receive a loaded firearm from CMP,,, impossible!!!
Point taken. I should have demonstrated it in camera. Thanks for coming by!
Put 1200 into the un, quickly; slide cuts, gold barrel, serrations on back of slide, HD Chrome, etc.
I’ve had it about six months now, I haven’t done anything with it other than fire and clean it. Thanks for coming by!
Very nice
Thanks! And thanks for coming by!
Nice that you have that 1911. Good luck with it. By the way, you kept handling that, pointing at your head and never checked to see if it was loaded. That is the FIRST thing you have to do.
Excellent point. Although I “trusted” the CMP to send an unloaded firearm, I should have demonstrated that on camera for my own benefit and the benefit of the viewer.
Thanks for coming by!
Exactly right on the handling comment.
Really? Come on man
dude that knife is dull lol
I tried to play it off a little in the video, but you’re right it needs an appointment with a sharpening stone.
Thanks for coming by!
So you got a dog like I did. A mixed breed mut. Mine is a 1944 Colt with a Remington Rand slide, with what I think is a new blued barrel. $1,000 for a half breed 1911. Maybe in future years, with the documentation, it’ll be worth more. I think I could have bought a very nice new 1911 for $1,000. I feel ripped off. I’d feel a LOT better if the slide and receiver came from the same manufacturer. I took off those shitty plastic grips and put on a nice double diamond set from Altamont. I replaced the sear spring with a reduced pressure sear spring from Cylinder & Slide.
It’s an OK 1911, that shoots pretty accurately. But after, almost 2 years, I still feel I was ripped off by CMG.
To me, the thousand bucks I paid for this mut wasn’t a big deal. What pissed me off was the CMG came across as doing a good thing for American 191 fans, and what I got was a MUT!
Well let me assure you ,,, you have made money!!! If you’re not happy just put it up for sale on the CMP, CMP, CMP, not CMg, forum and watch how fast it sells and watch how much money you make in less than 24 hours!!!!!
I mean I get what you’re saying, but mix/match is how the majority of surplus US firearms are… hence why matching parts firearms go for a premium. It’s the same with the Garands, springfields, and carbines they’ve sold. They were quite clear that the majority of them would have been re-arsenal pistols which should have told you exactly what you should expect; pistols that were sent back to Anniston to be completely worked over with parts replaced/finishes redone where necessary. The complaint I personally had, and why I didn’t bother with it, was the fact that so many may be coming with civilian parts. Which apparently didn’t matter to you, considering you replaced a bunch of stuff anyway lmao. Shitty plastic grips… like if you didn’t want a legit surplus pistol how it would have been issued why did you buy one lmao
@@GetTheFO You make good points. It would have been nice if the slide and frame were from the same manufacturer. Mine has absolutely no armory markings - none. I can put the grips and other parts I removed and make it like it came to me. Mi have a 1918 1911 that was a WWI take home, so nice contrast to the A1.
I understand what you’re saying, to me the process alone and the time it takes definitely can use some improvements. I would think if someone didn’t care too much for the gun that you get, depending on the state you live in, you could take it to a gun show and sell it for way more that what you have in it. It is an inconvenience I guess to go through the process to search for a buyer to let it go for the right person looking. But anyhow thanks for dropping a comment and thanks for coming by!
Damn fine imho for a rack grade
I’m very surprised and happy with it. Thanks for coming by!
I unfortunately haven’t been able to get one (yet lol)