In the older versions we had no UI detection algorithm at all & now we do, & we continue to fine tune it so it doesn't over or under compensate. In the video I noticed when your white crosshair went over the white sky/waterfall is when it glitched the most since it was the same color, otherwise it was fine. Also if you click on the "Discussions" tab when you're about to launch tht program you can see even more updates & a pinned post on how to improve interpolation results. Thanks for the video! Wasn't expecting it.
You are doing such incredible work. I wish I could buy LS five times. That said, I would love to see you experimenting with GFN, as Nvidia uses the same bitrate for 4K 120FPS as 4K 60FPS, which makes no sense and obviously worsens the stream's overall IQ. So, I would rather stick to 4K 60FPS and use LSFG instead. I tried it earlier today and it already works surprisingly well. Far from perfect, but it works.
I absolutely LOVE how Lossless Scaling just keeps going from Strength to Strength. Being able to play games that are capped at 30 or 60 in smooth 120+ is awesome.
This tool is a blessing for the Windows handheld community. It enables games, which can reach a locked 60 FPS on the ROG Ally, to fully utilize the screen's 120Hz refresh rate. It's a sight to behold. If they somehow manage to create a Linux version of their app, their success will shoot through the roof.
@@njemtgThis absolutely requires a locked framerate to work its best. If your base framerate is fluctuating this will look like crap. What I typically do is I run the game at the target resolution I want to scale from ( on my Legion Go, I usually run the games at 1280 x 800) and figure out the settings I want to use. If the consistent FPS is 50 I may lock it to 40 FPS to account for the postprocessing overhead. As long as you feed it a stable FPS you'll have an awesome experience.
I solved the performance tax problem by using a cheap secondary GPU (a GTX 1650) from which I output the video signal. I set Lossless Scaling to use the 1650 for frame generation while my games use my 3080, the result is incredible, no additional usage percentage on my main card. If you have windows 11 you can set your high performance card as the main card, remember that the video output must come from the "cheap gpu" otherwise lossless will also use the high performance card :) let me know if you try, now I only play like this several months and it's fantastic!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 You can get brand new cheap GPUs or second hand ones since it doesn't have to be powerful at all, can spend like $40 on a low-profile super small GPU you can just throw in your case. Not many people I know do it but it works & is probably worth the investment for people who use the app a lot
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 You can get a very cheap weak GPU for like $40, you don't need anything powerful or new. So if its an app you will use a lot then it might be worth the investment.
Lossless scaling is a great app and option for getting improved motion clarity I use it in a couple of titles, Kingdom come deliverance works amazing, it's very slow paced game with minimal hud elements but has a horrible CPU bottleneck in main city which means even with my 7800x3d I can't really get past a stable 60fps, so using LSFG to get 120fps motion clarity in that game is fantastic. Also I haven't been able to keep up with all the HDR video's you've done recently but RTX HDR has been a god send for me, it just works in every game hassle free, perfect black levels, correct nit value it's everything auto hdr wish it could be... Only annoying thing is the perf impact however I am fortunate in the fact my current GPU has enough spare head room to make than a non issue for me personally. RTX HDR works amazing for emulators as well as someone who tends to use CRT filters which darken the screen considerably.
I'm in exactly the same position, got decent rig and can just turn it on and start playing, it's how things should be, but the majority of the developers don't care about HDR, which I just don't understand.
5:50 The frame draw pipeline time between RTX 3080 and RTX 4090 is pretty huge. The improvement on the graphics draw pipe line is huge every new generation, the RTX 5000 series will be mind blowing!
Few tips as I just got the tool too, You can set a hotkey for enabling/disabling. I have also noticed that if you cap your games to a frame rate that you can comfortably run, it is alot better. Some games have issues however such as Phasmophobia, that seems to slow the actual engine down somehow Great video anyways!
now there is a way to run the reshades for hdr in lossless scaling, allowing it to transform any sdr content to hdr when scaling. Saved me a lot of time instead of just spamming reshade in every game I play. you should try it if you haven't already!
Lately instead of using rtx hdr I’ve been using the gamma 2.2 profile at 80% for 400 nits. Set max cll and mastering peak to 400 with DTM off or I use hgig if I don’t want the screen too bright. Both look good. Max cll 400 with DTM off works good for oled motion.
youtube onle have 60fps max so we cant actually see the diff. but if you were to shot a 120fps veido and slow it 0.5 time,then upload it. when audiance play it at 2.0 speed, we can have a 120fps veido.
This fame generation even works on fighting games locked to 60 FPS, street fighter, gran blue, DNF duel running at 120 FPS is stunning and truly a sight to behold. it looks like real 120 FPS as if the devs animated it from scratch
I luckily don't suffer from any motion sickness, but once you get use to good motion clarity in games, bad becomes absolutely unplayable, just horrendous to at, regardless of how pretty a game's graphics may be.
I also had issues with getting HFW to run smoothly (my PC told me it was running at 120fps, but it was obviously stuttering). IIRC it had something to do with my GSYNC settings through the NVidia control panel. I think I had to change it to "Both Windowed and Fullscreen" mode, even though I was running the game in exclusive fullscreen. Either way, I ended up with it running perfectly with framegen at 120fps. Edit: Oh, it might have something to do with you using motion pro, I wasn't using that
OpenAI Sora can render super detailed very complex motion with very minimal pixel defects already, in couple years this all will be done real time! The render issues we see now with scalers, in a couple years will be down to just couple pixels instead of hundreds of pixels!
Have a look on your phone's video recording for slow motion mode, you can use it to measure input lag buttons to pixels. I have 88ms buttons to pixels on Samsung plasma with either scanline sync or Vulkan vsync with swapchain set to 2 frames in the driver. Anything under 100ms feels good to me.
i cannot get my head around windows hdr saturation in the app, is 0 the correct and true value? how much saturation do you guys use? on my hdr 400 (i know, fake hdr) screen, hdr looks miles better than sdr (lg 27gp850) but i'm still trying to fiddle with hdr settings, expecially saturation, which oversaturates reds and i can lose detail in reds when going above 20-25
Did your LG C1 get the new webOS 23 update? My C2 did and it changed some of my settings using a PC.... A lot of options are greyed out (color depth, clarity, etc) and no more several "game modes" like fps etc. A new setting like game color depth and game sharpness has been added but it's not easy to understand what's default and what's better....
Wondering if these guys can instead of adding motion interpolated frames add black frames instead. So we can have bfi on the newer tvs where the function has been removed or lowered.
Great video as always, at the start of the video you referred to a "review code", is it the next unreleased update or are you still using the 1.1 udate?
is there a way to make a 4k Lighting Storm custom screen saver with after effects or something & upload it to the tv so one can have it as a Screen saver?
@Plasma TV. Important question. Is it normal that I detect ZERO difference in motion on my LG C3 when playing a game at 30FPS, De-Judder 10/10 together with BFI?! Besides the loss in brightness, no matter how I spin the camera, I detect zero motion difference with BFI on/off with De-Judder 10/10. Is it so that we must either use DE-Judder 10/10 or BFI ON but not togeher ?! I have no explanation for this.
60bfi will be cleaner, but 120 lossless scaling will allow full HDR brightness. I'd say it depends on the game. HFW is so bright all the time that BFI flickering might be more annoying
Hello,how do i record games in HDR mode but keep the viewing experience the same for SDR viewers? does youtube automatically re-colors HDR videos for those that dont have hdr enabled?
thanks for the video! have you checked the HDR support? Because the tooltip in the options of the lossless scaling app says that HDR mode would double VRAM usage? can you confirm that? that would be quite the price to pay for more fps also you can show the "real" fps after Frame Generation is enabled by activating the option in the app's menu as well cheers
love this channel, really deep down knowledge. A question.... i use HDR 400 and am i right? It is trash and a scam... right? i use SDR again and the picture is often much better. Other question, i play Conan Exciles and use Lossless Scaling with FG. But the results are terrible, some advices to improve this? I use an RTX 4060 TI.
HDR is broken in most games. SDR should never look better than HDR even on a lower end HDR display unless the HDR calibration of the display is very bad, the contrast is reduced by LCD backlight when pushing more brightness, or the HDR implementation is bad.
To use LosslessScaling with FG at the same time might work at 240Hz+, LosslessScaling needs the cleanest based image possible to do a decent job and if FG is already adding some noise then it can become a mess
Thx :) often i even dont know if HDR (win 11 Auto-HDR) is even active. I have an IPS Panel with max auf 408 nits. And thx again for your time @@plasmatvforgaming9648
hi ariel I have a question about the autohdr. At what value do you set the "hdr intensity" slider for the lg c3? This slider can be found only when you are inside a game using the game bar menu.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 But if I set it to 100% and then take some screenshots the HDR + WCG app shows me that there is many instances with a maxcll that is higher than 800.
Use both frame gen fsr and lossless together... I doubled my fps in Microsoft flight simulator... With FSR mod, i used to get 45-65... When using both FSR mod and lossless, i get 109 fps with smoothness.. shutters are very very less after performance option added in the program in new update
The only downside whith the program is that it dose not work with RTX HDR.. i love the program so far and its one of the best FG trick out there for almost everything
Hey there I bought this program after seeing your video, tested it in Alan Wake 2 after setting my Lg cx to 60hz and limiting fps to 30 in rivatuner. I average 45 fps in my current 4k settings and use rtx hdr, after turning on lossless scaling the result is abysmal, looks much smoother at native 45fps, tons of issues panning around even if it brings the fps from 30 to 60. Is rtx hdr the problem? I have disabled rivatuner overlays
RTX HDR is conflicting with LosslessScaling based on this comment section. The creators of LosslessScaling recommend 60 to 120 minimum. For AlanWake2 use the FSR3 FG mod for RTX GPUs if you can plus a modification on the config file that I shared before
Did you download the latest rtss? The game and frame gen in particular have big issues. That completely solved them for me. I'm sure they've uploaded it to github by now. There is a fix in there for this game and elden ring. If you are running rtss older than 7.3.6, you need to update it asap. I found the beta in the dev forum but they said they were going to do a full release within a day or so(this was over a week ago) It's something to do with core affinity and the way rtss is reporting. This game and elden ring got a massive fix on 7.3.6 and it runs smooth as butter now
I only have 3060ti and trying to play this on 4k performance dlss. You think i should use LS in this scenario, i dont think i can hold 60fps the whole game. If I cap to 50fps and then use LS on top would that be better than only perf dlss 4k.
For me the quality is horrible. Look at smoothfrog with 30fps to 60 and fast scrollspeeds like 2600px/sec+, it will look like 30fps but worse. Fails to increase motion clarity or even smoothness, just looks like doubling. It only works on slow speed of movement, and even then the artifacts are insane, even on like 300px/sec scrolling. I just re-tested the latest beta, so my view on this is still up to date.
I'd use test patterns. Near black to check if it is crushing, color clipping to set the color saturation, and use the Color Temperature Meter app to set the white balance I like (Warm)
I checked the game sonic the hedgehog 2 on retroarch(sega genesis) +CRT SHADERS and here my thoughts: 60 fps on LCD : boring not engaging 120 fps on LCD thanks to LSFG . It looks beter, but game is still boring non engaging and when the background is moving very fast smearing effect occurs and everyting looks bad. 60FPS on PLASMA TV: WOW, game is engaging, motion is perfect. i game looks very good even on fast moving background. I think the smoothness of movement is as good as on CRT but I haven't played on CRT for years :) LSFG is good for modern games on LCD and OLED. For retro games plasma tv is the best choice.
You realy need samsung oled frame generation there is great mittle setting i se zero artifacts and higher setting 9 and 7 almost zero but so smooth if 60 fbs game target
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In the older versions we had no UI detection algorithm at all & now we do, & we continue to fine tune it so it doesn't over or under compensate. In the video I noticed when your white crosshair went over the white sky/waterfall is when it glitched the most since it was the same color, otherwise it was fine.
Also if you click on the "Discussions" tab when you're about to launch tht program you can see even more updates & a pinned post on how to improve interpolation results.
Thanks for the video! Wasn't expecting it.
You are doing such incredible work. I wish I could buy LS five times. That said, I would love to see you experimenting with GFN, as Nvidia uses the same bitrate for 4K 120FPS as 4K 60FPS, which makes no sense and obviously worsens the stream's overall IQ. So, I would rather stick to 4K 60FPS and use LSFG instead. I tried it earlier today and it already works surprisingly well. Far from perfect, but it works.
@Hybred hello i have a 75hz non free sync monitor how should i use it?
@@Srdb1999 Cap your game to 37fps it will interpolate to 74fps
Thanks for your work. IMO you're one of the leaders in pushing handheld pc gaming forward
is VRR support planned? because currently it doesn't feel like such a huge improvement when VRR is not available.
I absolutely LOVE how Lossless Scaling just keeps going from
Strength to Strength. Being able to play games that are capped at 30 or 60 in smooth 120+ is awesome.
This tool is a blessing for the Windows handheld community. It enables games, which can reach a locked 60 FPS on the ROG Ally, to fully utilize the screen's 120Hz refresh rate. It's a sight to behold. If they somehow manage to create a Linux version of their app, their success will shoot through the roof.
They should definitely do that.
i tried lossless scaling and it gives, me wobbly sht
@@njemtgThis absolutely requires a locked framerate to work its best. If your base framerate is fluctuating this will look like crap.
What I typically do is I run the game at the target resolution I want to scale from ( on my Legion Go, I usually run the games at 1280 x 800) and figure out the settings I want to use. If the consistent FPS is 50 I may lock it to 40 FPS to account for the postprocessing overhead. As long as you feed it a stable FPS you'll have an awesome experience.
I bough Loseless Scaling years ago for me and my friends and never regretted.
Why would I?
Ty, devs!
Thanks for the heads up! great testing man
One of the best frame generations on pc
I would argue it’s better than nvidia and and because it work on every app including movies and most importantly emulation.
I love it more then dlss 3 frame gen on the 4080
its just insane independent devs are working faster and better than amd
I solved the performance tax problem by using a cheap secondary GPU (a GTX 1650) from which I output the video signal. I set Lossless Scaling to use the 1650 for frame generation while my games use my 3080, the result is incredible, no additional usage percentage on my main card. If you have windows 11 you can set your high performance card as the main card, remember that the video output must come from the "cheap gpu" otherwise lossless will also use the high performance card :) let me know if you try, now I only play like this several months and it's fantastic!
I don't have a secondary GPU to try it but I love the idea. I remember those Nvidia features on Batman allowing that
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 You can get brand new cheap GPUs or second hand ones since it doesn't have to be powerful at all, can spend like $40 on a low-profile super small GPU you can just throw in your case.
Not many people I know do it but it works & is probably worth the investment for people who use the app a lot
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 You can get a very cheap weak GPU for like $40, you don't need anything powerful or new. So if its an app you will use a lot then it might be worth the investment.
Lossless scaling is a great app and option for getting improved motion clarity I use it in a couple of titles, Kingdom come deliverance works amazing, it's very slow paced game with minimal hud elements but has a horrible CPU bottleneck in main city which means even with my 7800x3d I can't really get past a stable 60fps, so using LSFG to get 120fps motion clarity in that game is fantastic.
Also I haven't been able to keep up with all the HDR video's you've done recently but RTX HDR has been a god send for me, it just works in every game hassle free, perfect black levels, correct nit value it's everything auto hdr wish it could be... Only annoying thing is the perf impact however I am fortunate in the fact my current GPU has enough spare head room to make than a non issue for me personally. RTX HDR works amazing for emulators as well as someone who tends to use CRT filters which darken the screen considerably.
"RTX HDR is a homerun"
Jensen
I'm in exactly the same position, got decent rig and can just turn it on and start playing, it's how things should be, but the majority of the developers don't care about HDR, which I just don't understand.
5:50 The frame draw pipeline time between RTX 3080 and RTX 4090 is pretty huge.
The improvement on the graphics draw pipe line is huge every new generation, the RTX 5000 series will be mind blowing!
Price will also blow the money
@@Ghost-pb4ts True sad story, FREAKIN $2499 for a Gaming top tier GPU!
Few tips as I just got the tool too, You can set a hotkey for enabling/disabling.
I have also noticed that if you cap your games to a frame rate that you can comfortably run, it is alot better.
Some games have issues however such as Phasmophobia, that seems to slow the actual engine down somehow
Great video anyways!
now there is a way to run the reshades for hdr in lossless scaling, allowing it to transform any sdr content to hdr when scaling. Saved me a lot of time instead of just spamming reshade in every game I play. you should try it if you haven't already!
Nice! I'll check it out 👍
If the developers can figure out how to make this work on Linux/SteamOS, this will sell like hot cakes for the Steam Deck.
I believe someone told me it works on the Steam deck, but I'm not sure
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 If you have Windows installed on the Deck. I prefer to keep Windows to a minimum.
Lately instead of using rtx hdr I’ve been using the gamma 2.2 profile at 80% for 400 nits. Set max cll and mastering peak to 400 with DTM off or I use hgig if I don’t want the screen too bright. Both look good. Max cll 400 with DTM off works good for oled motion.
youtube onle have 60fps max so we cant actually see the diff. but if you were to shot a 120fps veido and slow it 0.5 time,then upload it. when audiance play it at 2.0 speed, we can have a 120fps veido.
My camera can record 1080p 120fps. I might try that
This fame generation even works on fighting games locked to 60 FPS, street fighter, gran blue, DNF duel running at 120 FPS is stunning and truly a sight to behold.
it looks like real 120 FPS as if the devs animated it from scratch
bad motion gives me a headache .
I luckily don't suffer from any motion sickness, but once you get use to good motion clarity in games, bad becomes absolutely unplayable, just horrendous to at, regardless of how pretty a game's graphics may be.
@@00Clive00 this is why leaving a high end plasma can be so difficult
@@Datacorrupter234yep, still use my Plasma sometimes clarity is great, but it's just not bright enough for use, in my lounge.
@@00Clive00 my only gripe with plasma is that they buzz, other than that its my favorite picture type
@@Datacorrupter234my old plasma has 12 fans on the back, I solved it by having my PC connected to it, which was a lot louder, so didn't hear it 😅
I also had issues with getting HFW to run smoothly (my PC told me it was running at 120fps, but it was obviously stuttering). IIRC it had something to do with my GSYNC settings through the NVidia control panel. I think I had to change it to "Both Windowed and Fullscreen" mode, even though I was running the game in exclusive fullscreen. Either way, I ended up with it running perfectly with framegen at 120fps.
Edit: Oh, it might have something to do with you using motion pro, I wasn't using that
I agree. That's the thing I play around with when having these issues.
BFI reveals the issues more easily because when perfect, it looks very clear
The king is back 😎💪
Link to the podcast with the developer interview?
ruclips.net/user/liverqTF1Dj4yC4?feature=share
This shit allowed me to play Star Citizen at max settings at around 90fps
OpenAI Sora can render super detailed very complex motion with very minimal pixel defects already, in couple years this all will be done real time!
The render issues we see now with scalers, in a couple years will be down to just couple pixels instead of hundreds of pixels!
Have a look on your phone's video recording for slow motion mode, you can use it to measure input lag buttons to pixels. I have 88ms buttons to pixels on Samsung plasma with either scanline sync or Vulkan vsync with swapchain set to 2 frames in the driver. Anything under 100ms feels good to me.
Good idea, I'll give that a try
that monitor is GOLD
Settings i use for C2 oled
black stabilizer - 3
fine tune dark areas - -4
hgig
in game settings on default
Thanks for sharing
hey brother, a question, why don't you use DLLS Quality or DLSS Frame Generation instead? wouldn't it have less artifacts and better motion clarity?
Because FG with the mod is broken here
ruclips.net/video/m5iOVfC5wWU/видео.html
i cannot get my head around windows hdr saturation in the app, is 0 the correct and true value? how much saturation do you guys use? on my hdr 400 (i know, fake hdr) screen, hdr looks miles better than sdr (lg 27gp850) but i'm still trying to fiddle with hdr settings, expecially saturation, which oversaturates reds and i can lose detail in reds when going above 20-25
I keep it at 0, but feel free to experiment. It seems like you already figured out the limit
Did your LG C1 get the new webOS 23 update? My C2 did and it changed some of my settings using a PC.... A lot of options are greyed out (color depth, clarity, etc) and no more several "game modes" like fps etc. A new setting like game color depth and game sharpness has been added but it's not easy to understand what's default and what's better....
Sounds like a mess. I haven't received that update yet. I'll post as soon as it pops for my C1
Same, messed up my picture also
Wondering if these guys can instead of adding motion interpolated frames add black frames instead. So we can have bfi on the newer tvs where the function has been removed or lowered.
It is definitely possible but it wouldn't be better than the maximum refresh rate of the TV and most of the latest TVs already do that.
Great video as always, at the start of the video you referred to a "review code", is it the next unreleased update or are you still using the 1.1 udate?
I got a steam code, so it is the same version as everyone can get right now on Steam
I wonder if this works with special k y hdr shaders in reshade.
Yes
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 That is great!. thankyo.
Version 2.0 of LSFG is out. Can you please check ? It's said to be a big improvement over previous versions.
Yes, I will
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 It would be very interesting to see a frame by frame comparison with DLSS3 FG. To see which one has less artifacts.
In your opinion should I build a PC now or wait for next generations GPUs?
Definitely wait if you have something to get you through
is there a way to make a 4k Lighting Storm custom screen saver with after effects or something & upload it to the tv so one can have it as a Screen saver?
I don't know. My favorite screen saver is a full black screen
what tv you have man, picture quality is awesome
LG C1 OLED
@Plasma TV.
Important question.
Is it normal that I detect ZERO difference in motion on my LG C3 when playing a game at 30FPS, De-Judder 10/10 together with BFI?!
Besides the loss in brightness, no matter how I spin the camera, I detect zero motion difference with BFI on/off with De-Judder 10/10.
Is it so that we must either use DE-Judder 10/10 or BFI ON but not togeher ?!
I have no explanation for this.
BFI only works for 60fps/Hz on the C3. When you add De-Judder 10 you get 120fps
@@plasmatvforgaming9648
So in other words.....stick with De-Judder 10/10.
Thank you.
i tried in dragon dogma 2 and can resolve any low frame problem incluse stutter.
now in cyber punk is better losless scaling or fsr mod?
DLSS3 is better than both.
@@ThisisCitrus no dlss3 but mod dlss2 and fs frame gen for 2000 and 3000 gpu
When the FSR 3 FG mod works well it is the best we can get.
Remnant 2 is the best example I've seen.
What do you think is better for people like me who have LG C3? Playing at 60 fps with BFI or 120fps with Lossless Scaling but no BFI?
60bfi will be cleaner, but 120 lossless scaling will allow full HDR brightness. I'd say it depends on the game. HFW is so bright all the time that BFI flickering might be more annoying
Hello,how do i record games in HDR mode but keep the viewing experience the same for SDR viewers? does youtube automatically re-colors HDR videos for those that dont have hdr enabled?
You can use RTX Video to HDR all SDR content or even force Auto HDR using Leodedge app
Make a video talking about changes in the firmware of the oled c1 03.40.87 and see if anything has changed in brightness please
I'll do as soon as it pops for me
@@plasmatvforgaming9648
Ók
thanks for the video!
have you checked the HDR support? Because the tooltip in the options of the lossless scaling app says that HDR mode would double VRAM usage? can you confirm that?
that would be quite the price to pay for more fps
also you can show the "real" fps after Frame Generation is enabled by activating the option in the app's menu as well
cheers
I'll check that out, I don't see VRAM doubling when using it
love this channel, really deep down knowledge. A question.... i use HDR 400 and am i right? It is trash and a scam... right? i use SDR again and the picture is often much better.
Other question, i play Conan Exciles and use Lossless Scaling with FG. But the results are terrible, some advices to improve this? I use an RTX 4060 TI.
HDR is broken in most games. SDR should never look better than HDR even on a lower end HDR display unless the HDR calibration of the display is very bad, the contrast is reduced by LCD backlight when pushing more brightness, or the HDR implementation is bad.
To use LosslessScaling with FG at the same time might work at 240Hz+, LosslessScaling needs the cleanest based image possible to do a decent job and if FG is already adding some noise then it can become a mess
Thx :) often i even dont know if HDR (win 11 Auto-HDR) is even active. I have an IPS Panel with max auf 408 nits.
And thx again for your time @@plasmatvforgaming9648
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 And HDR 400 without dimming on IPS is useless right? I have HDR 400.
hi ariel I have a question about the autohdr. At what value do you set the "hdr intensity" slider for the lg c3? This slider can be found only when you are inside a game using the game bar menu.
At 100% it will give you what you set on the HDR calibration app, so I'd keep it there
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 But if I set it to 100% and then take some screenshots the HDR + WCG app shows me that there is many instances with a maxcll that is higher than 800.
Use both frame gen fsr and lossless together... I doubled my fps in Microsoft flight simulator... With FSR mod, i used to get 45-65... When using both FSR mod and lossless, i get 109 fps with smoothness.. shutters are very very less after performance option added in the program in new update
Nice!
The only downside whith the program is that it dose not work with RTX HDR.. i love the program so far and its one of the best FG trick out there for almost everything
Hey there I bought this program after seeing your video, tested it in Alan Wake 2 after setting my Lg cx to 60hz and limiting fps to 30 in rivatuner. I average 45 fps in my current 4k settings and use rtx hdr, after turning on lossless scaling the result is abysmal, looks much smoother at native 45fps, tons of issues panning around even if it brings the fps from 30 to 60. Is rtx hdr the problem? I have disabled rivatuner overlays
RTX HDR is conflicting with LosslessScaling based on this comment section.
The creators of LosslessScaling recommend 60 to 120 minimum.
For AlanWake2 use the FSR3 FG mod for RTX GPUs if you can plus a modification on the config file that I shared before
ruclips.net/video/RyQ2ZrP68ts/видео.html
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thank you very much!
Did you download the latest rtss? The game and frame gen in particular have big issues. That completely solved them for me. I'm sure they've uploaded it to github by now. There is a fix in there for this game and elden ring. If you are running rtss older than 7.3.6, you need to update it asap. I found the beta in the dev forum but they said they were going to do a full release within a day or so(this was over a week ago)
It's something to do with core affinity and the way rtss is reporting. This game and elden ring got a massive fix on 7.3.6 and it runs smooth as butter now
Nice! Thanks for letting me know. I'll definitely get that update
Whats the difference between this and AFMF?
What's AFMF?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 AMDs built in frame gen
I only have 3060ti and trying to play this on 4k performance dlss. You think i should use LS in this scenario, i dont think i can hold 60fps the whole game. If I cap to 50fps and then use LS on top would that be better than only perf dlss 4k.
You can try 50fps locked 100Hz with LosslessScaling
For me the quality is horrible. Look at smoothfrog with 30fps to 60 and fast scrollspeeds like 2600px/sec+, it will look like 30fps but worse. Fails to increase motion clarity or even smoothness, just looks like doubling. It only works on slow speed of movement, and even then the artifacts are insane, even on like 300px/sec scrolling. I just re-tested the latest beta, so my view on this is still up to date.
Interesting
Lossless Scaling disables RTX HDR for me, even though I have the HDR option on in Lossless Scaling.
AutoHDR works fine...
doesn't work with dldsr either
@@Coldmud Ok, so I'm not doing something wrong? Bummer...
hi i have tcl c645 can you guide me to get the best color best settings best all im playing from PC
I'd use test patterns. Near black to check if it is crushing, color clipping to set the color saturation, and use the Color Temperature Meter app to set the white balance I like (Warm)
I feel when I enable it the quality get better is that true?
More frames let you see better in motion. The app also has scaling, so that would affect the quality if it is turned on
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 what is the best scaling ? I use LS1
guys will this work in hell divers 2?
Yes, it works in almost every game
wait so I can use this on top of nvidia framegen to double fps??
Yes! I guess that could work great for 240Hz+ monitors
okay sick 😮
I checked the game sonic the hedgehog 2 on retroarch(sega genesis) +CRT SHADERS and here my thoughts:
60 fps on LCD : boring not engaging
120 fps on LCD thanks to LSFG . It looks beter, but game is still boring non engaging and when the background is moving very fast smearing effect occurs and everyting looks bad.
60FPS on PLASMA TV: WOW, game is engaging, motion is perfect. i game looks very good even on fast moving background. I think the smoothness of movement is as good as on CRT but I haven't played on CRT for years :)
LSFG is good for modern games on LCD and OLED. For retro games plasma tv is the best choice.
Plasmas can have 4ms of persistence and look as good as 240 when doing a slow panning. Better than 120 on LCDs in almost every case
It doesnt work for me, what am i doong wrong? Followed all instructions on the stram guide
Turn off Gsync Freesync, use the max refresh rate, and cap the fps to half refresh rate, then force Vsync ON the GPUs control panel
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 i didnt try forcing vsync, will try again now tks
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Damn it works tks man
Does this work for every windows handheld?
It should
The artifacts are just too distracting for me. The shimmering around ui/character is too annoying. I'd rather switch some settings around, lower res.
What's your average FPS on a 3080 on horizon forbidden west
60
wil i get banned for using this on games like fortnite, valorant or cod?
I don't believe so
Bro where are from? I am from Cuba, your English is very good. Good video as well. Liked the video
Que bola acere! La Habana del Este, reparto Camilo Cienfuegos
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 damn, for real? I mean I am in the US now but. Wow are u in Cuba now?
I first downloaded it for free but it has viruses so better buy it it do very good job i use it most for Helldiver's 2 and make very very good job
You realy need samsung oled frame generation there is great mittle setting i se zero artifacts and higher setting 9 and 7 almost zero but so smooth if 60 fbs game target
I'd like to get a Samsung TV just because of that
lo probé con doble fg, jajaja se vé super fluido, cálculo unos 200fps
Néw firmware oléd c1 03.40.87
I use dlss and a proper rig and don't need this stuttery artifacty shit