Making Peace With Fallout 4

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024

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  • @mukuchifish8022
    @mukuchifish8022 23 часа назад +9

    I rarely comment but I just wanted to say I watched from start to finish without pause. I highly like the way you compose your essays and edit your videos.

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  19 часов назад

      Thank you! That's very kind. I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @wesss9353
    @wesss9353 День назад +12

    Fallout 4
    Look for son
    Become Land Developer
    Nukes son.

  • @Homiloko2
    @Homiloko2 День назад +2

    Great essay, I'm surprised it doesn't have more views yet! Easily deserves 100k+

  • @ryancochran4357
    @ryancochran4357 18 часов назад +2

    Amazing video man. Fo4 is such an equally fulfilling and unfulfilling game and you encapsulated that perfectly. Great job I’m shocked this hasn’t gotten more views.

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  18 часов назад

      Thank you so much!
      Equally fulfilling and unfulfilling is a really good way of putting it!

  • @gitsub5376
    @gitsub5376 17 часов назад +2

    31:45
    A note.
    The "Scrapper" perk in the intelligence tree makes searching for whatever components you need rather easy. It highlights objects that contain your desired crafting material in the same color of your UI to make scavenging for specific things a lot more quick.

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  17 часов назад +2

      Yes, I took that at some point. It can be helpful, but it's not a complete fix by any means. And I don't love the way the item highlight looks. It's very gamey and artificial.

    • @TiredOldBo
      @TiredOldBo 13 часов назад

      and bethsoft still did it wrong. It highlights multiple mats even if i have many of all but 1 of them. I dont need them all to be lit i need the 1 i dont have

  • @jasonensteinjag
    @jasonensteinjag День назад +5

    As much i love Fallout 4, i cant help but think Bethesda just wanted it to be a "refined" Fallout 3 rather than follow the roots of NV, the story and gameplay and everything. Even if i also like FO3 on its own, its still a really basic fallout game, compared to smth like NV. NV not only has decently balanced and interesting rpg mechanics, story and choices that affect the ending, but also the additions to the gunplay, like different ammo types, modifications etc, with the only problem with NV's gunplay is just the gunplay itself. Still, alot of which NV's improvements and stuff future fallouts couldve improved upon is jsut missing in FO4. Is it any wonder people download mods to make feel like an improved Fallout NV
    Its even more disappointing on Bethesda's end when Obsidian was able to make NV (even in broken state) in 18 months with a terribly outdated engine while Bethesda was given 4 years to cook up smth good for 4, which they didnt.
    Again, there is stuff to like in FO4, the settlement system, the updated gunplay but really, i wished Bethesda just didnt have a vendetta against NV and actually improve from what Obsidian had left out to do

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  День назад +1

      I wholeheartedly agree with the NV praise.
      I think the idea that Bethesda hates NV or Obsidian is overblown. Just because they have a different philosophy for making games doesn't mean they have animosity for the developers of NV.
      The fact that Obsidian made NV in 18 months is absolutely incredible. But they were only able to do that because they were building on Bethesda's FO3/Oblivion technology base and were able to reuse a lot of assets and systems. They obviously had to do some technical work, but so much more of their production time could be dedicated to content and to tweaking an existing template to suit their vision. And their vision was awesome.
      Big game dev in general takes much longer now. This is true pretty much across the industry. And I think it's a problem for a lot of developers because the games taking longer leads to fans expecting more and often being disappointed.

  • @Atomic_Aegis45
    @Atomic_Aegis45 22 часа назад +5

    New Vegas was the tipping point for me I played fallout 4 first and had the exact same issue, the game never pulled me into it. I played New Vegas after about a year from my first fallout 4 experience and the difference was jarring. Sure the Gun play wasn't the greatest but the characters I met and the enemies I thought were awesome and felt like they actually had a purpose. Take Ghost Town Gun Fight and The Man Out of Time Quest. The Powder Gangers have a reason to both be there and attack the town, as well as the player being able to pass speech checks with people in the town before the fight begins to gear up the towns folk and prepare for battle. Man Out of Time is you just being told to go to Concord to look for people and the Minutemen have been put in the wrong place at the wrong time(had the Sole Survivor not shown up) The Raiders have no reason to be there besides the plot, and don't even get me started on the cucking of Deathclaws, from Wasteland Legend that was thought to be myth, able to chase down players in seconds, to hah minigun go brrrrrrrrrr.

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  19 часов назад +2

      I know. The difference in the writing and worldbuilding is huge.
      As I was wrapping this video up, I dipped back into NV to get some more footage after having not played for months and I was immediately struck by how much more I cared about what was going on in that game than in FO4.

    • @newturtle3
      @newturtle3 17 часов назад

      Honestly FO3 and NV were the peak 2d to 3d
      4 and 76 just didnt capture that feel
      1 through tactics 2d had their own charms.

    • @metalpotatoe537
      @metalpotatoe537 8 часов назад

      You're right for the most part but the raiders do have a reason to be there
      In the mission that sends you to the corvega assembly plant your able to read to a terminal of a raider boss who was looking Mama Murphy one entries says he sent a group to concord because he saw them on their way there

    • @stm7810
      @stm7810 3 часа назад

      @@metalpotatoe537 1 retroactive in later development terminal entry does not a story make. it takes 3 minutes to add a note in game, it doesn't show any care for the plot.

  • @becauseforeverended8861
    @becauseforeverended8861 17 часов назад +1

    Loving how indi my algorithm has been keep it up hopefully I'll be manipulated back for your next video

  • @MatchaLatteEnjoyer5000
    @MatchaLatteEnjoyer5000 21 час назад +2

    Fallout 4 was my entry into the fallout series - I feel now that it's one of my least favorites mostly due to the story. Fallout 4 is at it's best when you turn your brain off and just shooty shooty; which really sucks in your RPG game. I am a person that mostly plays games for the stories. I can do bad game play/bugs for a good story but not verse versa.
    Anyway, Love your essay !! Your edits and composition is really cool :)

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  19 часов назад

      I'm with you to a certain extent but there are games where I'm okay with minimal story and awesome gameplay. Depends on the franchise or developer and my expectations for them. With Fallout it's definitely the former.

  • @dankym
    @dankym 2 дня назад +4

    Would you say Fallout 4 is a good starting point into the Fallout games (and Bethesda games in general), or something to skip altogether?

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  2 дня назад +2

      That's a good question with many answers, I'm sure. I'd say it depends on what kind of player you are and what you're looking for out of the experience.
      It's a good starting point in that it's very accessible compared to the older games in terms of availability and gameplay conforming to more modern expectations. It's relatively easy to pick up and play.
      It's not a particularly good introduction into the Fallout universe, I don't think for reasons I mentioned in the video. And it's really lacking if you're looking for the roleplaying, player-choice-driven narrative content.
      Fallout 4 is kind of the pivot point between old and new Bethesda so it might be a decent introduction to Bethesda games as a whole, but again, it depends on what you're looking for and what primarily motivates you as a player. Personally I prefer Skyrim, Fallout 3, and Fallout: New Vegas. But Fallout 4 has a lot of redeeming qualities and it definitely makes more of an impact than Starfield, sadly.

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  День назад +1

      That's a fair point. For me, Skyrim is a pretty good balance of old and new Bethesda. But you're right that's where the traditional RPG mechanics really started to get simplified and it was the first game to have radiant (procedurally generated) quests.

    • @newturtle3
      @newturtle3 17 часов назад

      76 then 4 then 3 tactics then 1 and 2 then nv to not be disappointed on the FO game sequel.curve
      At least imo

  • @Peskymacaroon
    @Peskymacaroon 16 часов назад

    Incredibly well made! A great listen while I farm smithing levels in Skyrim!

  • @fpshightide
    @fpshightide 7 часов назад

    Imo fallout 4 with mods is one of if not the best game ever made it’s literally whatever you want it to be and with the addition of mods this game can literally be anything you can imagine its literally the only game where you can create your own game

  • @Atomic_Aegis45
    @Atomic_Aegis45 21 час назад +2

    28:41 where are you at in the game?

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  19 часов назад

      I don't remember the name of the point of interest. It's the top of one of the tall buildings in the downtown area. You fight your way up and then there's a little boss fight at the top the reward is the power armor.

  • @rave1704
    @rave1704 10 часов назад

    Most if not all of the mentioned criticism has been addressed by mods

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  10 часов назад

      Yeah, I mentioned that. But I'm critiquing the game as released not as fixed by Mods. And mods can't change the bad writing which is the biggest problem.

  • @Copier777
    @Copier777 22 минуты назад

    To be honest, I don't really understand how you liked Skyrim but couldn't enjoy Fallout 4 when they suffer from the exact same issues in terms of player choice, essential characters and obligatory setpieces. At least Fallout 4 gives you more choice in terms of dialogue, even if it's just for the sake of flavor. I don't understand why people called Far Cry 3 "Skyrim with guns" when Fallout 4 IS Skyrim with guns. Yeah, it's obviously not as good as F:NV in terms of player choice, but I'd say it's better than Skyrim at least in that regard for sure.

  • @ICXCNIKA1997
    @ICXCNIKA1997 8 часов назад

    I have a lot of personal issues with Bethesda and Fallout 4 in my opinion they hit the nail on the head with 3 the setting but in fallout 4 people rather live in these half baked shelters when we have all these buildings that you could easily fix up and in some cases they walk in see a skeleton that’s been since the bombs dropped and say ah yess this is where I’ll make my home I’ll just keep this skeleton as home decor I really just wish they kept the classics in mind for making a game showing that humanity can rebuild (NCR) I one of the few that didn’t like the show I feel like man how can you make props almost 1 to 1 and then ruin preexisting lore

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  4 часа назад

      I agree that 3's setting works better. That game has aged but it still has great atmosphere.
      I'm not too precious about the lore at this point. Every new Fallout has changed the lore. Everybody has their limits with that stuff, of course and to each their own. I care more about the tone. For me, it's a balance. Not overly serious, not overly jokey. The show took the main characters seriously but played up the absurdity of their situations.

  • @sleepymorpho1434
    @sleepymorpho1434 День назад +1

    great video

  • @bestfriendln4478
    @bestfriendln4478 17 часов назад

    Liked, subbed and left a comment for the algorithm. I disagree with almost everything in the video though. It's fun and I don't need a book to understand it. The dialog is dog crap though

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  10 часов назад

      Thanks for watching and engaging even though you disagree. I appreciate your civility about it.
      I won't argue that the game is fun! I wouldn't have played so much of it if it wasn't.

  • @SzczurzaJucha
    @SzczurzaJucha 15 минут назад

    Haven't gotten far into your video, but what already irks me is that you open up by "well it's silly that Codsworth is still there", and you even recognize that it's honestly not that important. And you for sure exaggerate how he affects the feeling of changed world - it's not like Fry's dog would make everything okay, and neither does Codsworth, the Sanctuary is still ruined, everyone's dead, nothing is the same. Robot is there to give an easy early companion I guess; still the logic "it should be salvaged already" applies to every Fallout title after Fallout 2, 150 years is plenty of time to pick stuff apart clean.
    Second thing, please do not compare a very minor side quest (admittedly very stupid and not really meshing with the world) with an arc of one of the main characters of the show. That's just silly and lazy.

  • @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv
    @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv 13 часов назад

    Ngl im so tired abt hearint abour the ghoul in the fridge and other small issues. Cause they dont really add up imo. Its stuff you can ignore for the most part and wont take you out of the experience. After the fact i suppose it can add up but it still doesnt make me enjoy the game less. Its more just like "oh, in hindsight that doesnt make a ton of sense, oh well". The bigger issues like the Railroad and Institute being explored so little are what make me enjoy the game less (even tho i very much agree with the railroad conceptually, Synths clearly are people and the game basically explicitly tells you that the correct way to think about them is just as people but made in a lab, yet people think that the personhood of Synths was supposed to be up for debate lol)

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  10 часов назад +1

      It bothered me and I explained why. It doesn't ruin the game by itself but it (along with many other examples) contributes to an overall feeling that the worldbuilding isn't well considered. If it didn't bother you, that's fine.

    • @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv
      @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv 4 часа назад

      ​@@DEBUGMODEthat's fair, and my issue isn't necessarily with your specific criticism of it, I agree with most if the criticism in this video tbh. It's just that it seems like a gag quest that could have been in one of the first 2 fallouts and if it was, no one would complain abt it being lore breaking.

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  3 часа назад

      Maybe. But if it was intended as a gag quest, it would have been presented as funny and nothing about Kid in a Fridge is. There are silly quests and Easter eggs in Fallout where the games wink at the audience and we know not to take them too seriously. If this is supposed to be a joke, then they delivered it very badly.

  • @BIGWORM2k9
    @BIGWORM2k9 57 минут назад

    my main hate to falout 4 still tonthis day is invisable sheathed weapons it still irritates me to this day i shouldnt have to use mods for this astethic feature .sorry for spelling if wrong im dyslexic and drunk haha

  • @newturtle3
    @newturtle3 17 часов назад

    As many have already stated / said ill repeat
    1 fo4 is a good game JUST NOT A GOOD FALLIUT GAME
    2 It has its charm but falls flat in many areas. You go through the game then think "oh what if instead they added or this happened ...etc." and cracks start forming and you see how much better the game could have been.
    I will say this the mods for NV and 4 are insane.
    The biggest gripe is how they tear apart the lore. The ghoul in a fridge is bad. PA also meh. The fact they give you 2 fully customizable characters but one gets killed off and/or no multiplayer makes the game meh.
    It has great pluses like settlement building. Weapon and armor customization at the cost of ammo types (NV) and faction / karma rep system (Fo3 and NV)
    It has a good thing of the watered down perk system with charisma having actual use now.
    What i loathe is they had 2 games to make the railroad better
    In 3 it was okay just mysterious 1 quest
    Then 4 they dropped the ball hard.
    Just get some mods and enjoy a no brain experience.

    • @newturtle3
      @newturtle3 17 часов назад

      The change from tin shacks and concrete buikdings to actual 60's atompunk is a 50/50
      More colorfulish but also like feels off
      Like its an alt universe / fanfic of a fallout game made into a mod for skyrim 😂

    • @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv
      @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv 13 часов назад

      The ghoul in the fridge thing is a bit more breaking but people who act like it's genuinely a significant issue or anything but just a minor oversight make me laugh. Like who really cares

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  10 часов назад

      I don't mind the color. I chalk that up to it being a different location and I appreciate the visual variety. The settlements fall right into that traditional tin shack aesthetic though.

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 9 часов назад +2

    2:06 Surprisingly *bad* adaptation you mean? Even if you ignore all the lore breaks, Fallout TV show didn't feel like Fallout, it felt like Borderlands with Fallout coat of paint on it, Fallout was NEVER as consistently unfunny, unatmospheric and goofy as TV show was, and it's a disgrace it took so long for critique videos to pop up.

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  9 часов назад

      What did you expect? Have you seen other video game adaptations? Fallout isn't the greatest show ever but it is one of the best video game adaptations we've seen so far and it's canon to the games as opposed to a retelling of existing material which is unique.

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 8 часов назад +2

      ​@@DEBUGMODE I didn't expect much and it still surpassed my expectations... I thought even Bethesda could write slightly better fallout TV show than that! 😢
      And yes I did see other game adaptations, so what? Also the "did you see other video game adaptations quality?" line rings hollow in the era of Mario and Sonic movies(plus some others), those movies respected their IP TEN times move then Fallout TV show.
      And it's not like Sonic is that big these days(after so many bad Sonic games), Fallout is bigger in comparison and yet Bethesda cared less about it.
      Also stings the fact they're trying to make it CANON, if it was just a fan work or non canon I think the TV show would be slightly more bearable, but the nerve that they had to make it CANON, is just insulting, they ruined the lore by implying "le hecking evil capitalismus people are so evil(and dumb) that they nuked their entire consumer base and work force", they ruined Mr. House, one of the most genuinely brilliantly written characters is now nothing more than an idiot that nuked the world even though that's not his FNV portrayal also the fact that the entire cast was goofy aah Borderlands characters just shows that there's no hope for proper F5 from Bethesda, they'll just write those characters as goofy and dumb as TV show...
      Sorry for the vent, no hate towards you, it's just, I'm so tired of Fallout franchise being mistreated so much.

  • @Gubbins_McBumbersnoot
    @Gubbins_McBumbersnoot 9 часов назад

    I’ve always liked FallOut 4. In fact, I think it has grown on me since the release of fallout 76 and Starfield. But I am fully aware that it is not one of their best games. The thing is, even though the main story is complete ass, I’ve always found the world and the gameplay to be very compelling. I love the base building, I love the weapon and armor customization, And I love the exploration, dlc and side quests. All that being said, I still think new Vegas is the best entry in the series.

    • @DEBUGMODE
      @DEBUGMODE  4 часа назад +1

      I'm with you. Those are the good parts of 4. And I do think I appreciate it more in light of 76 and Starfield. Whatever my complaints might be, FO4 is definitely better than those games.

    • @Gubbins_McBumbersnoot
      @Gubbins_McBumbersnoot 40 минут назад

      @@DEBUGMODE Yeah for sure. I just wish BGS didn’t break it permanently on consoles lol.