This is the only reasonable way to look at it. The Navy used Marcus. He chose to go along with it because he probably thought what he was doing at the time was right. He clearly suffers from guilt and will have to live with what happened for the rest of his life.
Context is key here. If you listen to the whole story he says he had fallen so far down that it was impossible to get back up to his teammate and that he couldn’t even see him. So basically he was helpless at that point there was nothing he could do but listen to his teammate die. So for an instance he put his gun down and covered his ears.
Exactly right. What a bullshit post. I liked the video they did awhile back on a diff SEAL, but now it seems like they're just going after anyone in the SF community.
@@JoshuaSmith-ev7lmit’s pretty common knowledge now. He’s made out in the movie to be in a massive gunfight but he was found with full magazines on him. He told them there was about 150-200 taliban on the mountain, the footage recovered FROM THE TALIBAN on those mountains shows no more than 15. He didn’t have to lie in the first place, but he did.
Weak man??? You do know the guy talking is a legendary Navy Seal. Marcus clearly knows deep down he didnt do what he should of for his team mate/friend and is ashamed of his actions
@@debodevil6974 I was talking about all these couch potatoes criticizing Marcus. If you know how the event unfolded Marcus had fallen too far away to even help him. He knew Axe and Danny were already dead too. I’m sure if he was physically close enough to help Murph he would’ve. This is the result of the “never give up” mentality coming to fruition. I have all the respect in the world for these dudes. Not regular dude(which I am) that act like they would’ve done differently
@@datnip79 But they weren't all dead. Marcus said they were all dead which obviously slowed the recovery top brass were thinking, "let's get everything in order before we go on a recovery mission", but Axel wasn't dead, he was severely wounded, near death and clung to life and kept himself for around 8-9 days. If Marcus hadn't of literally ran off and left his team Axel might still be here. Marcus is clearly ashamed of something but he'd the one who has to look himself in the mirror and live with what everhe did
There is so much more to the story. If i recall correctly during the interview right before this little clip he stated how murph was in a spot that he could not get to. That marcus had gotten knocked off or fell off of this ledge and went down over a drop off or something and there was no way to go back up. It’s extremely fucked up for them to cut this part of the clip out to make him look worse. Idgaf what anyone says. To go through what he went through and survive is remarkable
That was often a tactic that was utilized, a ranger told me guys would get picked off / blown off the edge knowing it was the other rangers duty to get them, putting them in the danger zone to easily be picked off, they were often hiding higher ground ambushing them
This guys entire story is fake. The guy in the movie who died leaning on the tree actually survived another week and was found later by a recovery unit(they noted that he was only dead a day or 2 when found). Op redwings ties 2 of the most high profile events for seals in Afghanistan in the most suspicious of circumstances.
The problem is he has changed his story and peddle lies in order to profit and act as a propaganda prawn for the military in this cover up. This creates dangers and it will make harder for systemic changes to be made to prevent more careless is disastrous situations.
@@primate4 everyone you know changes stories each time they tell it. It's funny because when Rob O'Neil tells the bin laden raid story, people criticize that he says it the same way like it's a script... you can't win.
Telling the truth isn't talking shit, so long as it's the truth. If the truth makes someone look bad, that's their problem, not a so called "Shit talkers."
And not a one of us were there. He obviously picked the gun back up. Can you imagine the agony of hearing someone screaming but you can’t get to them? This guy on this podcast makes me sick. He acts like he was on that mountain. He wasn’t.
How about he told them his whole squad was dead. So they used ground troops in a slower search to retrieve the bodies. When they could of used special forces and gotten to Mathew axelson while he was still alive. They found him 10 days after Marcus ran like a little bitch and then lied to everyone. His body was only dead for a day. They would of found him. But the bitch lied
I can, and I understand what he did, war is ugly the only thing you can do is keep your mouth shut and not profit off its ugly ass. Survival of the self is the most important thing in combat, real combat, not Hollywood. You live to fight another day even if that means your battle buddy's life. The mission is the only thing that's important, not life, not honor, not anything but the mission.
I thought this comments section would be a disappointing rabbit hole. I thank each and every one for their thoughtful positive perspective on what this man went through!
This is survivals guilt. Not a confession. Id twist the story around and make myself the bad guy and my friends the heroes if they all perished. No one knows what happened an what decisions each individual made that day that resulted in their own deaths. He’s the lonely survivor.., not the lone survivor.
Such a survivor he left his team behind to get killed and came up with a story to make money off of since there isn’t anybody around to confirm what he says
He did what it took to live to fight another day. Arlington Cemetery is full of guys who couldn't or didn't. You can Monday morning quarterback it all you want, but you weren't in that fight.
Yeah Marcus other team mates im sure were thinking go run away Marcus so you can fight another day and why not run away all the time when fighting gets too much
He put his gun down while Murphy was up the mountain in a location he couldn't get to. You try walking up a cliff 😂 They criticize Marcus for being honest about hating hearing his friend dying. They want to act like they would fly up the mountain 😂😂😂😂
You clearly don’t understand the meaning of being a Seal and operating with your brothers. If that was my brother, i would do everything i could until I was dead to help my brother out. Marcus ran like a coward and the drone footage is going to prove it.
That why he was found with all his mags full still? Even in his rifle? Such a believable story that there isn’t anyone to confirm anything besides the “extraction”. What team medic runs from his team and not help? A coward one.
It’s pretty much 100% proven at this point that Marcus lied about a lot of stuff and possibly cost axelson his life. He went on to make millions of dollars off a lie. He needs to be called out. It’s a tragedy what happened to those seals but it doesn’t excuse Marcus lying.
@@Blinky25256 having watched the whole interview I now agree with you. What a shame! SAS author Andy McNabb started the special forces lying through your back teeth phenomenon with his fictional account of his SAS patrol in Iraq “Bravo Two Zero”.
Exactly man. Old coots like this need to kick their feet up and talk about the old days not the new days in which they had zero involvement. Sad man, arm chair quarterbacking and what could’ve been is a joke
Those screams for help will haunt him for sure. I’m a disabled combat veteran (Iraq) & am semi-thankful that I was crazy enough to never experience that outcome. I hope he gets help to try & deal with that somehow.
A Coward Because, signed uped the the military, made it thru all the some of the most demanding training. Became a seal, witnessed things that avg Joe couldn't imagine. And when was devastated as he watched his buddy suffer and D. That to me sounds like.a hero to me. We lose to many soldiers from susd, every day. We need more appreciation for thise who make it so we can live the ways we do. Bless America, and All our soldiers.
I think this dude deserves some slack here. He’s not responsible for his friend dying even if he held his gun, he was exhausted with multiple broken bones, died two times (brought back to life) and he got pushed to his limit. His body was physically destroyed, his cardio was probably non existent from rucking all the way in there plus all the violent falls on rocks in full kit. He’s not a coward, or responsible for his friends death, but is taking blame for it anyway - that’s pretty rare and amazing. If you’ve never been in real, violent war, and super violent gunfight greatly outmanned, don’t judge this guy. They were also regular Seals, so they didn’t have the skills and experience of Devgroup or even better DELTA FORCE. And remember he didn’t direct the movie, he was just an advisor.
He admitted he was a coward from his own mouth. He then lies about how shot up and mangled he was but the photo Muhammad Gulab took of him (in his kit) while in hiding shows not a single scratch, bruise, or any blood on his face. The movie is also hugely fabricated and he was an "advisor". Ya'll fanboys are weird.
@@CajunKing420 watch the full podcast, the man talking is a living legend to other navy seals. He had buddies who were there that picked up Marcus, dude literally walked himself on the heli and he had pretty much full mags. More than likely Marcus lost his shit in the gunfight and took off and ran, leaving his guys behind.
That's because they have nothing better to do. A very small percentage of seals actually see combat or get deployed on missions. The vast majority sit around with thumbs up their butt bored as hell
The guy in the green t-shirt is the ultimate coward in this story. To be face to face with an overwhelming enemy force and taking casualties is the hardest thing to do on the planet. To criticise a warrior who was in an un- winnable situation is a cowards way of thinking.
I agree with u bro everyone can talk shit what they will do but unless u r about to die never see ur family again wife kids mothers brother sister U can't say shit. It. Breaks my heart how his brother must of felt. Getting killed was probably least of his problems. The betrayal he must of felt, HURT MORE then the bullets💯 I'm a felon been in street warfare and prison too but these guys r the real gangsters.Mexican mafie affiliated speaking 💯🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽 🚨
Marcus is still a hero he volunteered for a job and made the seals. Not for regular civilians to judge a man that went through what he did. I'm a grown man and most likely wouldn't have made it out of that situation. The one who died and the ones who lived and the ones who still fight have my respect
Never forget when the Rangers came to save him they asked him where his team was & Marcus told them "they're all dead" later on when they recovered the bodies they couldn't find Axel until 10 days later but they said it looked like he had died a day or so prior.
It's not shit talking, when it's trying to bring the lies that a few bad SEALs have gotten to become the narrative to light. An entire community is being brought down because these SEALs have put out false stories and narratives to protect the brand that is "SEAL".
We need to remember Tim Simansky is the real villain here. He forced Marcus to lie, probably under various threats, and he had done it before. He was there for Robert’s ridge. He was there for red wings, he was there for Joe Prices death. He’s been involved in countless JSOC scandals.
People think that criticism and hate are the same thing, they aren’t. It’s very obvious people who comment and didn’t watch the whole interview. They have very good points as to why things don’t add up with Marcus story and this guy was a SEAL!
You obviously haven't watched anything besides the movie... It was tops a dozen dudes that were stalking them since they got off the helicopter and it had nothing to do with the goat herders... They got jumped and torn up n luttrell ran off
We are our own worst enemy! NOBODY can say anything to anyone they haven't already told themselves 100× worse!? Marcus judged himself in front of the world 🌎!? That alone took more balls than most men on the planet have! I love y'all
As someone who was in a car wreck and had his friend die in his lap while he was screaming out for his mom and looking into my eyes I am troubled that someone who hasn’t experienced anything remotely close to what I or Marcus has experienced feels like he can judge the situation it is a terrible scary and hateful thing to hear someone you care about dying
Yours was about 20 into the comments. Your comment touched me. How horrible to experience such an event. I hope you've found some peace despite the trauma.
Also there was never a dumb crazy fire fight in the Afghan village with the people fighting to save Marcus, that was 100% Hollywood. He happened to be saved by some elders and even the Taliban won’t question the Elder leaders
Where was Marcus when his buddy was getting killed? Could he have gotten to him? We watched the full interview, fella didn't mention where Marcus was geographically positioned in relation to his buddy. Not defending Marcus, rather upholding the facts. Coming to Conclusions without full context is something that should be avoided at all costs to retain integrity. God bless 🙏✝️
He told people that came to rescue them that every one was dead. Days later when recovering bodies the found one soldier that had crawled and died under a tree. He would have lived but 10 days bleeding and no food killed him. Sad
I mean the last time he saws any of his buddies, they were all shot to shit and then they got blown up and got separated. So I'm sure in the moment he had thought they truly died
Context of important here. The part they don't show on this clip is the part that breaks your heart. He couldn't get to Murph and the helplessness he felt in listening to his brother be butchered broke him. They were on different parts of the mountain and he was never gonna reach him in time.
He did what the higher ups told him to do, which was tow the line and shut the F up. Money and fame and the ability to make the deaths of his friends mean something . . . he chose to lie and save face.
I agree, had he told the truth from the get go everyone would understand. Now though, he is just far to deep in the lies, there is almost no way back. It's a shame. Also, pointing out inconsistencies, lies, etc. Is not hating, or attacking him. The truth is the truth, and I see no reason that people can't critique his actions, his teams actions, and try to get to the bottom of what actually happened. Lying is doing nothing but disrespecting his boys that died up there, and bring yet another black mark to that community.
No matter what happened he still lived through hell to say he is a coward is ridiculous. This man did exactly what he was supposed to do. Yes, he could’ve died yelling out for his brothers but at that point it’s almost like he was pretty much dead anyway.
He’s telling the truth as he remembers. The worst day of his life. He’s not responsible for the deaths of his buddies! Could he have done more? Easy to say if you’re not on the X.
Love how people in this comments section think the seals calling him out aren’t in the know or have behind the scenes knowledge that Lyman’s wouldn’t. Lone survivor is bullshit military propaganda. The mission was failed from the start. Marcus ran off in his dudes. He wasn’t shot a bunch or wounded badly. He was found with all his gear and ammo still. An RPG didn’t shoot down the bird. Maybe watch the seal talk about it before you go stroking off some dude who dipped out on his dudes in his first firefight.
The problem is that this guy shit talks about things that are easily proven wrong. He besmirches the personalities of multiple seals more successful than him, by describing their personalities in ways that actual contemporary sources disagree with. Who am I going to trust when hearing about who these people where, the people who serve with them or a bitter old man? Seal or no seal, I’ll go with the contemporary sources
They’re not telling the whole story. I’m sure he actually felt that way but it was stated in the book that he was unable to reach his dying fellow soldier because he’d fallen too far down the hill. He covered his ears - that had to be a painful sound! You can’t cover your ears unless you set your gun down! Never judge a person because you weren’t in his shoes!
Man, I can’t imagine what these guys were put through in the war, but it’s baffling to me to think that a guy who had completed navy seal training would even behave like this…. Every time I see Marcus I think to myself, “how did someone do seemingly out of shape ever get to where he did?”
You only saw a part of the interview. They cut it to make it sound really bad. If they had not cut it, you would’ve heard Marcus say he’d fallen so far he couldn’t get back
@@saylorisat I'm 100% sure. If there was footage. It would've been made known. Marcus would've brought up 'footage' any of the 100 times he's told this story. There's no footage.
@@GingerBreadMan1080I saw the Taliban pov footage on YT. You can hear LT.Murphy yelling for Marcus to come back while they’re getting blasted by two PKM’s.
I just think the Navy gave him orders to go big on the story, bc it would be a shame for them to acknowledge the whole op was a disaster from the start.
I was led to believe that the reason for the hell of buds was to weed out quitters. He froze in combat, I get it happend. My grandfather said he froze in ww2 and had to get his senses back because of the sheer chaos.
He felt helpless, because he couldn't do anything to help murph , i wasn't there & neither were any of you . He feels Guilty because there was not a thing he could do !!!
SEAL Team Leadership is the real culprit here. Marcus had been truthful. Leadership has spun the narrative to protect their brand name. People need to watch this whole interview. And this dude here isn’t a hater, he is also a Navy SEAL who has spent time researching the actual events of Red Wings. There’s a lot to this.
Luttrell is very open about how he found his breaking point in that moment, it's part of the story he tells on a lot of speaking engagements. i don't understand why you want to talk shit about a litteral hero in 2024 when men like Luttrell are becoming rarer and rarer by the year
Marcus is a True hero in my book Jesus bless you sir SEALS are the best, we know the truth my guy, there was no way they would have sent 7 terrorist to hunt only 4 guys in these mountains, they would have called for back up asap!
We’ll have a lot more answers (if or when )the Pred UAV footage of Marcus is released…. Either way, my overall opinion of the NSW community has been completely rocked listening to this podcast. I don’t think I will ever read a SEAL book or watch a SEAL movie/ podcast ever again. Makes me even question the Eddie Gallagher trial, and I was pretty convinced he was innocent and set up by his teammates … At this point, who the fuck knows when you have a community full of pathological liars.
I think that’s sorta why I believe they just fucked Eddie over. He did nothing and the SEAL community seems super toxic with a bunch of narcissists and fake brothers. NCIS rolled in and they were all so fckn scared they basically just made up shit about Eddie to point NCIS in ANY direction AWAY from themselves. Besides that you got Marcus Rob O’Neill and Chris Kyle so far some of the biggest military movies and popular books about SEAL stuff EVER and they’re all liars? That is NOT fckn good.
Yo dude… read the book Code before Country about the many crimes of SEAL team 6. I haven’t looked at the SEALs positivley in a long time. Green Betet, rangers, marine raiders, CTC, Delta… those guys are real quite professionals
To be fair, I can see how that would fuck eddie more than help him. Nobody wanted to stick their neck out for him even though none of the accusers could keep their story straight and would often contradict themselves. Everything about that trial was weird. They denied him almost any ability to defend himself properly, were caught spying on him along with not just the lawyer but the law firm I think. One way or the other it turned into a potential lawsuit that they absolutely wouldnt have been able to deny and without a doubt would've lost. That makes me think they threw him under the bus to avoid more seal community drama at a time when it was high. I know, it OBVIOUSLY didnt help but you see how all of these stories have snowballed and continue to avoid acknowledging.
I worked construction with a Seal that’d been excommunicated from the community after calling out Gallaghers BS. He had threatened his family and all kinds of crazy stuff. He literally had to flee Coronado because he thought he was being set up. His house got broken into multiple times and he knew something bad was about to happen. It’s crazy how accurate Terminal List is about the inner conflicts and corruption in the teams. This guy was permanently paranoid even though we’re in rural Montana. It was really intense being around him and I hope he’s found peace.
I really truly dislike how this man cut down Marcus as though he was a full blown coward… he wasn’t there and this small clip was isolated. I can’t imagine what this must feel like…
Tell me what did they do,? while you were eating chetto's at your keyboard. tell the doc's you have a case of the orange helmet. Or were you even old enough? still puking on yourself and having your mom wipe your backside. What did his teammates do?@@davidb8618
Tell me what did they do,? while you were eating chetto's at your keyboard. tell the doc's you have a case of the orange helmet. Or were you even old enough? still puking on yourself and having your mom wipe your backside. What did his teammates do?@@davidb8618@@davidb8618
Alot of us did. I knew the movie was over the top, people, navy seals or not, don't all get shot 20x before they die out of sheer toughness. A fatal shot is a fatal shot to everyone. But I believed most of it
Yes TF you can… he started and ammo company, a clothing company, wrote a book and sold it for millions to make the movie.. He got wealthy off of his fellow seals deaths. He’s the lone survivor because he ran away. In the army we have creed and part of it says.. “I will NEVER leave a fallen comrade” we live together we die together, Marcus Lutrell is a straight up BITCH and poor excuse for a human being. Just look at what he did or should I say didnt do for the elder afghan that hid him until he could be rescued. The poor guy and his family were on the run from the Taliban for a decade because Lutrell didn’t keep his promise and bring him and his family to Texas like he promised he would… spare me the you don’t know what you’ll do til that you stuff… There are times like that maybe in some other cases of something else but this one ain’t it
Clearly you didn't watch the interview. He criticizes Marcus for lying about the entire operation. At the end of the interview he even says it's not entirely Marcus' fault in that it was his first mission. Watch the interview before you come at him like that.
@Milton_Waddams. always help your people, that first mission bs is not an excuse, not at his level of training. I would accept that if you were a mechanic, administrative, and other support roles. But not a Seal try again
@@geneburdette5238 I agree. It's even worse than him simply leaving them. One of them talks about how they had an old bunk mate who was in the ranger unit that rescued Marcus and he said Marcus told them the rest of the SEALS were dead (also pointed out that all his mags were full). Due to them going off this intel they decided to go about finding the guys in a less hasty manner in order to be more safety conscious. Because of this it took them 10 days all together to find all 3 bodies. The last guy they found on the 10th appeared to have only been dead for a day or 2. They might have saved that man had they not been under the assumption he was dead...
He’s a coward, he didn’t stay around to hear his “teammate” who he left behind scream his name. He’s a liar, profited off his “teammates” death. He’s such a bad ass, he was found with all his mags full still, even in his rifle there was a full mag.
He couldn't get to Murphy because of the difficulty it was to climb back up the mountain after he fell down 30 plus meters?? also being pinned down by the taliban gun fire on both center and both flanks. Has anyone on this podcast ever been in a gunfight what tf??
Be careful....if him abandoning his teammates to die alone caused him to need a support dog 24/7 I wonder what he will need when the world realizes his story was all a lie??
I'm a Marine veteran and I know a Airforce veteran that's never seen combat, never been near it and he has a support dog and full disability because of his severe ptsd ..he keeps dreaming of people and children losing their lives in war..war that he's never seen. I guess it's all how you're raised because I could never embellish or lie about my service.
@@MrStaybrown I agree. you can not teach integrity I was more so just calling Marcus a non-truth telling (YT friendly) co war d that left his teammates to die. I can not WAIT until that predator footage has to be released.
@@MrStaybrownHe's what we in the army called a " Milker". I bet he didn't even finish his enlistment, before finding a way to get out on some bullshit mental/medical discharge, and once back home it was straight to the VA for his benefits. This is frustrating because I had several relatives who served from ww2 to Vietnam, in both army and marine infantry, and I never remember any of them depending on shit like a "support dog"or getting anything close to full disability. I also see guys like me, who served in peacetime, going to the VA and sucking up benefits that should be reserved only for personnel who have combat related illnesses or injuries. No wonder we have real veterans offing themselves daily.
Well he was a Navy Diver, and SEAL. Listen to the whole podcast. The first hour and a half is about that gentlemans background and why he's qualified to talk about it. Also none of this is new information. Read Matthew Cole's book "Code Over Country."
only a person in that situation can say anything. Him firing his weapon wouldn’t have made any difference at all. but he gotta live with that pain of screaming and passing
They were NOT, it was TOPS a dozen.... And in the after-action report luttrell had pretty much every magazine he left the base with... So basically s*** popped off and he ran off
It was like 12 dudes on a ridge line. Unfortunately you can find the talibans video footage of the op on RUclips. A couple rpk’s can lay down enough hate to make your force seem slightly larger than it is
@American-BadAss732 a dozen tops?I understand he said it was many more,but let's say 12 vs 4,higher ground,all knew the area,unlimited ammunition.however he escaped he very lucky
This guy is a soldier... he's been on 3 SEAL teams and retired as an E8. If he can't criticize soldiers than who can? I can tell you didn't watch this interview or else you would have known that. Theirs a good reason he's criticizing Marcus Lutrell you should listen to it before you come at him like this.
@@rul1175 Um if you enlist and sign up for that job and you end up costing lives due to cowardice I absolutely think there is something wrong with that...
He had no chance TO help, he was down the hill and torn up. He lost his wit because he couldnt handle hearing his brother be killed while he is helpless to do anything. He didnt duck out in a firefight.
Why is it that people get so offended when the truth finally comes out? It’s ok to realize most of these guys are not who they claim to be. Especially the ones that chase the spotlight.
He probably regrets this everyday of his life! Nightmares !! Lost his BFF and mentally couldn't take it, regret of not helping and try save his team mate
The whole clip he explains he fell down to far down the mountain and couldn't reach Murph, he was helpless everyone has a opinion but YOU WEREN'T THERE, let alone how many of you had bullets fly pass you .
What I have learned in my life is that it is quite difficult to assess a situation that you have not witnessed firsthand. Putting it bluntly and looking at things in black and white can quickly tempt us to develop a firm opinion and thereby become convinced that we have the facts, while the whole event is only partly clear to us. It is important to approach situations with an open mind and consider different perspectives before coming to any conclusions. It is also important to be aware of our own biases and preconceptions, and to be willing to admit when we may have been mistaken in our assumptions.
More balls than most men to admit his "failure". But bro. For me, personally, I would probably break at that point too. It's called the moment of realisation. War is a vile game. No place for normal lads. No place for anyone really, only the shareholders and politicians benefit from your sacrifices.
Yeap didn’t shoot not one shot while the others were ran away like a coward all that training he did was hell an look how that turned out, I’ll do better without the training 🤣
Call me weak but , hes not a coward in my book. By God , he made it to the fight !!! You can hear the pain in his voice !! 💯 Respect Soldier !! Salute !!
All these people in the comments weren't there. Something clearly haunts Marcus because he didn't do what he should of. He calls himself a "coward" so clearly let his team down in his opinion
Yes as a former soldier that is the ultimate betrayal of a Conrad and goes against all our training very cowardice. Wonder how Murphs family feels about you sir.
That was brave of him to come forward and get honest. I am a trauma therapist for veterans and I am a veteran. Now I am concerned Marcus is at risk to become one of the 22 per day. I hope not and I hope he is getting help.
Its crazy how special operations is turning into pro wrestling. And this guy speaking is like Scott Steiner. Just calling everyone out stirring up drama nobody compares to him. Hes the real deal nobody else is.
Just a reminder, don't get your history from Hollywood.
I watched a docu on "The Cocaine Bear", it ran 30 feet and died 🙄 only hollywood could make an entire movie outta that 🤣
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History or Theology
Social media is just as bad if not worst. The lack of context in these short clips is insane.
There was a military narrative and a book before there was a movie!
Hollywood lie! They were lied too!
It actually took a lot of bravery to admit the truth of what happened
Exactly! Nothing bad to be said about Marcus
But he doesn't give this version anymore when he's getting paid big time money to give speeches!
Agreed 🫡
@@CRyan-Waltham75what?! Are you kidding? Haha
This is the only reasonable way to look at it. The Navy used Marcus. He chose to go along with it because he probably thought what he was doing at the time was right. He clearly suffers from guilt and will have to live with what happened for the rest of his life.
As a combat veteran, don’t judge until you’re in that position !!!
We pay the bills, we can say what we want.
@drachenmarke yeah but you've never been surrounded and ambushed by a force 2-3x bigger than your own and listen to your buddies get shot up and die.
@@newby547Quit putting yourselves in that position by fighting in wars that turn out to be unjust and unnecessary.
@@newby547 Ahhh… not bucks no bullets… why were we over there anyway? OBL was in Pakistan, even Bush knew it…
It's none of these guys's choices to be where they're at they sign up to serve. Blame the politicians that send them there
Context is key here. If you listen to the whole story he says he had fallen so far down that it was impossible to get back up to his teammate and that he couldn’t even see him. So basically he was helpless at that point there was nothing he could do but listen to his teammate die. So for an instance he put his gun down and covered his ears.
That's the part they don't want to share cuz if they do share who's gonna watch?
Exactly right. What a bullshit post. I liked the video they did awhile back on a diff SEAL, but now it seems like they're just going after anyone in the SF community.
Then why was he pictured in the village looking fine. Not a scratch on him if he “ fallen so far down “
There’s predator footage of him running away
Clearly you didn’t listen to
The full interview
Marcus isn’t hated because he was a new seal with no combat experience who froze, he should’ve never been sent there. He’s hated because he lied .
It's funny how everyone said that he lies yet not one single person except him was tuere
@@JoshuaSmith-ev7lmit’s pretty common knowledge now. He’s made out in the movie to be in a massive gunfight but he was found with full magazines on him. He told them there was about 150-200 taliban on the mountain, the footage recovered FROM THE TALIBAN on those mountains shows no more than 15. He didn’t have to lie in the first place, but he did.
@JoshuaSmith-ev7lm If there was any doubt he lied (there wasn't) he admitted to lying, cs.
@@JoshuaSmith-ev7lm ever heard of after action reports? Dude was found with all his mags full...
@@JoshuaSmith-ev7lm The rest of his Team was there and he left them hanging. Ran from the area, fabricated a story that made him look like a hero.
It hilarious how weak men criticize strong men.
The guy criticizing him is himself a legendary navy seal
@@mucholibra113my ass.
Weak man??? You do know the guy talking is a legendary Navy Seal. Marcus clearly knows deep down he didnt do what he should of for his team mate/friend and is ashamed of his actions
@@debodevil6974 I was talking about all these couch potatoes criticizing Marcus. If you know how the event unfolded Marcus had fallen too far away to even help him. He knew Axe and Danny were already dead too. I’m sure if he was physically close enough to help Murph he would’ve. This is the result of the “never give up” mentality coming to fruition. I have all the respect in the world for these dudes. Not regular dude(which I am) that act like they would’ve done differently
@@datnip79
But they weren't all dead. Marcus said they were all dead which obviously slowed the recovery top brass were thinking, "let's get everything in order before we go on a recovery mission", but Axel wasn't dead, he was severely wounded, near death and clung to life and kept himself for around 8-9 days. If Marcus hadn't of literally ran off and left his team Axel might still be here. Marcus is clearly ashamed of something but he'd the one who has to look himself in the mirror and live with what everhe did
There is so much more to the story. If i recall correctly during the interview right before this little clip he stated how murph was in a spot that he could not get to. That marcus had gotten knocked off or fell off of this ledge and went down over a drop off or something and there was no way to go back up. It’s extremely fucked up for them to cut this part of the clip out to make him look worse. Idgaf what anyone says. To go through what he went through and survive is remarkable
Thank you for this
That was often a tactic that was utilized, a ranger told me guys would get picked off / blown off the edge knowing it was the other rangers duty to get them, putting them in the danger zone to easily be picked off, they were often hiding higher ground ambushing them
yep. you’re exactly right bro. I remember everything you just typed in his interview. it’s all about the clips.
This guys entire story is fake. The guy in the movie who died leaning on the tree actually survived another week and was found later by a recovery unit(they noted that he was only dead a day or 2 when found). Op redwings ties 2 of the most high profile events for seals in Afghanistan in the most suspicious of circumstances.
@maxfanin1792 someone didn't listen to the whole podcast and refuse to listen to the facts. I sure they like the outcome of the movie way more. 🤦🏽♂️
this dude needs to stfu. he was incredibly candid and honest. Why tear a soldier down this way.
100% agree
And like said! None of us were there and delt with the situation!! And also said, he couldn't get to him!!
The problem is he has changed his story and peddle lies in order to profit and act as a propaganda prawn for the military in this cover up. This creates dangers and it will make harder for systemic changes to be made to prevent more careless is disastrous situations.
Because his story has changed many times! Murph’s dad cannot stand Marcus!
@@primate4 everyone you know changes stories each time they tell it. It's funny because when Rob O'Neil tells the bin laden raid story, people criticize that he says it the same way like it's a script... you can't win.
People can talk shit but in reality 99.9 of us have never and will never be in a situation that intense.
Lots of soldiers have and not run away.come on man.
Telling the truth isn't talking shit, so long as it's the truth. If the truth makes someone look bad, that's their problem, not a so called "Shit talkers."
What a bs take.. yeah let’s pay liars millions and let him write books to cover up a military debacle.. Jesus Christ you people are insane
Then you have men like Roy Benavidez, who literally went back multiple times to save his boys while getting hit multiple times.
And not a one of us were there. He obviously picked the gun back up. Can you imagine the agony of hearing someone screaming but you can’t get to them? This guy on this podcast makes me sick. He acts like he was on that mountain. He wasn’t.
Not one of us can judge this man.
How about he told them his whole squad was dead. So they used ground troops in a slower search to retrieve the bodies. When they could of used special forces and gotten to Mathew axelson while he was still alive. They found him 10 days after Marcus ran like a little bitch and then lied to everyone. His body was only dead for a day. They would of found him. But the bitch lied
Exactly 😢
💯 truth
I totally agree. Just to be in that situation to begin with requires more courage than most people will have to summon in their entire lives.
I can, and I understand what he did, war is ugly the only thing you can do is keep your mouth shut and not profit off its ugly ass. Survival of the self is the most important thing in combat, real combat, not Hollywood. You live to fight another day even if that means your battle buddy's life. The mission is the only thing that's important, not life, not honor, not anything but the mission.
I thought this comments section would be a disappointing rabbit hole. I thank each and every one for their thoughtful positive perspective on what this man went through!
😂 I'm not seeing those comments
This is survivals guilt. Not a confession. Id twist the story around and make myself the bad guy and my friends the heroes if they all perished. No one knows what happened an what decisions each individual made that day that resulted in their own deaths. He’s the lonely survivor.., not the lone survivor.
Such a survivor he left his team behind to get killed and came up with a story to make money off of since there isn’t anybody around to confirm what he says
People know what happened. JSOC has drone footage. The Taliban said that Marcus ran away.
On reaper drone footage he was running away while his teammates were getting slaughtered.
@@BrotherhoodOfSteel2077 There are no drugs here.
@@BrotherhoodOfSteel2077 why did my reply get removed? There.are.no.drugs.here.
He did what it took to live to fight another day. Arlington Cemetery is full of guys who couldn't or didn't. You can Monday morning quarterback it all you want, but you weren't in that fight.
Exactly! Disappointing how nasty veterans can be towards other veterans honestly.
Yeah Marcus other team mates im sure were thinking go run away Marcus so you can fight another day and why not run away all the time when fighting gets too much
You just can’t handle the fact that your boy lied.
@drachenmarke I wanna hear your life and death situations and how you made it out. Otherwise STFU
No one can know what that man went through.We can’t judge.May God bring him peace
He put his gun down while Murphy was up the mountain in a location he couldn't get to. You try walking up a cliff 😂 They criticize Marcus for being honest about hating hearing his friend dying. They want to act like they would fly up the mountain 😂😂😂😂
No they hate him because he made millions of lies
No they hate him because his story is proven to be bullshit and he made millions off of it
didnt he get all blown up
@@thomaswilburn6263 no he walked to the bird when he was recused
You clearly don’t understand the meaning of being a Seal and operating with your brothers. If that was my brother, i would do everything i could until I was dead to help my brother out. Marcus ran like a coward and the drone footage is going to prove it.
Sir, you are not a coward. You are a hero. A hero for even signing up for all this insanity
Hey guy, u weren't there, he was. When he speaks, he speaks about how hard his men fought, he venerates his team mates every chance he gets.
“Look at this shiny object over here so you don’t notice the other thing over here.”
That why he was found with all his mags full still? Even in his rifle? Such a believable story that there isn’t anyone to confirm anything besides the “extraction”.
What team medic runs from his team and not help? A coward one.
Have you watched the footage? I've watched the taliban killing them. It's clear Marcus ran off.
It’s pretty much 100% proven at this point that Marcus lied about a lot of stuff and possibly cost axelson his life. He went on to make millions of dollars off a lie. He needs to be called out. It’s a tragedy what happened to those seals but it doesn’t excuse Marcus lying.
Sounds like a coward to me. Need to quit making excuses for a coward.
None of us were there.
Including that dude.
@@Blinky25256 having watched the whole interview I now agree with you.
What a shame!
SAS author Andy McNabb started the special forces lying through your back teeth phenomenon with his fictional account of his SAS patrol in Iraq “Bravo Two Zero”.
Exactly man. Old coots like this need to kick their feet up and talk about the old days not the new days in which they had zero involvement. Sad man, arm chair quarterbacking and what could’ve been is a joke
@@rwdchannel2901 so you were there?
Give us your perspective then?
@@pm3577 You didn't answer my question. The answer you should have given is you meant that you weren't there.
@@rwdchannel2901 bicker with yourself mate I don’t have time.
The floor is all yours….
Those screams for help will haunt him for sure. I’m a disabled combat veteran (Iraq) & am semi-thankful that I was crazy enough to never experience that outcome.
I hope he gets help to try & deal with that somehow.
Nothing as toxic as the seal community glad my dad was a ranger
They lied about Pat Tillman
@@wadebaldwin8032 idc doesn’t involve me
A Coward Because, signed uped the the military, made it thru all the some of the most demanding training. Became a seal, witnessed things that avg Joe couldn't imagine. And when was devastated as he watched his buddy suffer and D. That to me sounds like.a hero to me. We lose to many soldiers from susd, every day. We need more appreciation for thise who make it so we can live the ways we do. Bless America, and All our soldiers.
Not really..it was his first op...just sayin
Eric literally did all of that too lmao
@blazerman61 not it wasn't it was his 2nd
Learn how to spell, pinecone.
The truth is their SEAL team got their asses handed to them by a handful of Taliban fighters and Marcus was the one who ran from them the fastest
Marcus is a Good man, I’ve seen dudes shit there pants intentionally just to get out of a 9 day FTX
I think this dude deserves some slack here. He’s not responsible for his friend dying even if he held his gun, he was exhausted with multiple broken bones, died two times (brought back to life) and he got pushed to his limit. His body was physically destroyed, his cardio was probably non existent from rucking all the way in there plus all the violent falls on rocks in full kit. He’s not a coward, or responsible for his friends death, but is taking blame for it anyway - that’s pretty rare and amazing. If you’ve never been in real, violent war, and super violent gunfight greatly outmanned, don’t judge this guy. They were also regular Seals, so they didn’t have the skills and experience of Devgroup or even better DELTA FORCE. And remember he didn’t direct the movie, he was just an advisor.
Finally someone else with some sense. There was nothing he could do and he’s experiencing severe survivors guilt.
He admitted he was a coward from his own mouth. He then lies about how shot up and mangled he was but the photo Muhammad Gulab took of him (in his kit) while in hiding shows not a single scratch, bruise, or any blood on his face. The movie is also hugely fabricated and he was an "advisor". Ya'll fanboys are weird.
@@CajunKing420 watch the full podcast, the man talking is a living legend to other navy seals. He had buddies who were there that picked up Marcus, dude literally walked himself on the heli and he had pretty much full mags. More than likely Marcus lost his shit in the gunfight and took off and ran, leaving his guys behind.
Its called antihero podcast and other seals call him out that he had full mags.@reaganlonestar6618
We were not there
Bro no one talks more shit about each other than fucking SEALS.
That's because they have nothing better to do.
A very small percentage of seals actually see combat or get deployed on missions.
The vast majority sit around with thumbs up their butt bored as hell
The guy in the green t-shirt is the ultimate coward in this story. To be face to face with an overwhelming enemy force and taking casualties is the hardest thing to do on the planet. To criticise a warrior who was in an un- winnable situation is a cowards way of thinking.
Every man has a breaking point, no matter how strong his spirit. I'd fight any day of the year next to him without hesitation.
I agree with u bro everyone can talk shit what they will do but unless u r about to die never see ur family again wife kids mothers brother sister U can't say shit. It. Breaks my heart how his brother must of felt. Getting killed was probably least of his problems. The betrayal he must of felt, HURT MORE then the bullets💯 I'm a felon been in street warfare and prison too but these guys r the real gangsters.Mexican mafie affiliated speaking 💯🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽 🚨
I wouldn’t
Now compare him to the cops that don’t go into a school to neutralize an active shooter. Would you fight beside that cop?
I guarantee if Marcus wasn’t a politician none of this would be out there. It’s a dirty fuckin game being in politics
Marcus isn't a politician.
His twin brother is.
Try again
he's not Morgan is.....nice try.
Hmm. I wonder if Brent Tucker might bear some responsibility for things being said out of turn 🤔
The amount of people that STILL back this guy and his lies is just incredible
Couldn’t agree more. The sight of this man makes me angry and gives me second hand embarrassed for our SF
Marcus is still a hero he volunteered for a job and made the seals. Not for regular civilians to judge a man that went through what he did. I'm a grown man and most likely wouldn't have made it out of that situation. The one who died and the ones who lived and the ones who still fight have my respect
Never forget when the Rangers came to save him they asked him where his team was & Marcus told them "they're all dead" later on when they recovered the bodies they couldn't find Axel until 10 days later but they said it looked like he had died a day or so prior.
It’s easy to talk shit. I have the utmost respect for those who go out there and do the hard things. This includes Marcus.
It's not shit talking, when it's trying to bring the lies that a few bad SEALs have gotten to become the narrative to light. An entire community is being brought down because these SEALs have put out false stories and narratives to protect the brand that is "SEAL".
Do you know who that is?
@trugrit7210 who is it
Man make money out of someone else death gotta be cool now days.
He made millions off the death of his brothers. He’s not a hero and he’s not a villain either. But he’s damn sure not a hero
We need to remember Tim Simansky is the real villain here. He forced Marcus to lie, probably under various threats, and he had done it before. He was there for Robert’s ridge. He was there for red wings, he was there for Joe Prices death. He’s been involved in countless JSOC scandals.
King of the cover up
Literally. They blame the seals but forget the higher ups spin the narrative
@@damianh4510well there’s a thing called honor Marcus could have refused to go along couldn’t he?
@@gapshot5065 refused? I mean he could but at risk of pretty much every military benefit he has.
@@damianh4510 so what’s your point what’s more important
People think that criticism and hate are the same thing, they aren’t. It’s very obvious people who comment and didn’t watch the whole interview. They have very good points as to why things don’t add up with Marcus story and this guy was a SEAL!
You obviously haven't watched anything besides the movie... It was tops a dozen dudes that were stalking them since they got off the helicopter and it had nothing to do with the goat herders... They got jumped and torn up n luttrell ran off
He fed 5,000 people with 12 fish. He raised people from the dead, including Himself. And most importantly he forgave sins. Only God can do that.
We are our own worst enemy! NOBODY can say anything to anyone they haven't already told themselves 100× worse!? Marcus judged himself in front of the world 🌎!? That alone took more balls than most men on the planet have! I love y'all
Every marine is a rifle man, every seal is a new york times bestseller 😂
Lol! They have become just what Jesse Ventura said they would become with all of the publicity about them.
As someone who was in a car wreck and had his friend die in his lap while he was screaming out for his mom and looking into my eyes I am troubled that someone who hasn’t experienced anything remotely close to what I or Marcus has experienced feels like he can judge the situation it is a terrible scary and hateful thing to hear someone you care about dying
I'm sorry to hear that man
Yours was about 20 into the comments. Your comment touched me. How horrible to experience such an event. I hope you've found some peace despite the trauma.
@@rogerward8629 I am better thanks to God and know that everyday is precious I try and have a meaningful and purposeful day everyday
Also there was never a dumb crazy fire fight in the Afghan village with the people fighting to save Marcus, that was 100% Hollywood. He happened to be saved by some elders and even the Taliban won’t question the Elder leaders
Where was Marcus when his buddy was getting killed? Could he have gotten to him?
We watched the full interview, fella didn't mention where Marcus was geographically positioned in relation to his buddy.
Not defending Marcus, rather upholding the facts.
Coming to Conclusions without full context is something that should be avoided at all costs to retain integrity.
God bless
🙏✝️
He told people that came to rescue them that every one was dead. Days later when recovering bodies the found one soldier that had crawled and died under a tree. He would have lived but 10 days bleeding and no food killed him. Sad
I mean the last time he saws any of his buddies, they were all shot to shit and then they got blown up and got separated. So I'm sure in the moment he had thought they truly died
Food!! You mean water!!
I hope for nothing but the best for Marcus. He went through hell and back.
Agree he ran away from hell and got back.
Yeap didn’t shoot not one shot while the others were ran away like a coward all that training he did was hell an look how that turned out
U can look at pics of him before the doomed op and see that he wasn't cut out for that life!
Whoever was in charge found out the hard way all the training in hell for nothing
Context of important here. The part they don't show on this clip is the part that breaks your heart. He couldn't get to Murph and the helplessness he felt in listening to his brother be butchered broke him. They were on different parts of the mountain and he was never gonna reach him in time.
God Bless Marcus Luttrell, you never know what your going to do unless your in the situation.
If he had told the truth at the beginning he would actually have been shown more understanding than after doing the bullshit book and movie
Maybe you can tell us one of your war stories sea hag
He did what the higher ups told him to do, which was tow the line and shut the F up. Money and fame and the ability to make the deaths of his friends mean something . . . he chose to lie and save face.
I agree, had he told the truth from the get go everyone would understand. Now though, he is just far to deep in the lies, there is almost no way back. It's a shame.
Also, pointing out inconsistencies, lies, etc. Is not hating, or attacking him. The truth is the truth, and I see no reason that people can't critique his actions, his teams actions, and try to get to the bottom of what actually happened. Lying is doing nothing but disrespecting his boys that died up there, and bring yet another black mark to that community.
Stick to eating Cheetos, don’t comment on warfighting you know nothing about
@@Mary-dc6jsyou’re lying to yourself thinking anyone on any platform cares what you think. Never served a day in your life and probably weigh 300 lbs
No matter what happened he still lived through hell to say he is a coward is ridiculous. This man did exactly what he was supposed to do. Yes, he could’ve died yelling out for his brothers but at that point it’s almost like he was pretty much dead anyway.
He’s telling the truth as he remembers. The worst day of his life. He’s not responsible for the deaths of his buddies! Could he have done more? Easy to say if you’re not on the X.
This is very much reminds me the documentary on youtube called "Bravo Two Zero The Real Story" by Michael Asher.
Love how people in this comments section think the seals calling him out aren’t in the know or have behind the scenes knowledge that Lyman’s wouldn’t. Lone survivor is bullshit military propaganda. The mission was failed from the start. Marcus ran off in his dudes. He wasn’t shot a bunch or wounded badly. He was found with all his gear and ammo still. An RPG didn’t shoot down the bird. Maybe watch the seal talk about it before you go stroking off some dude who dipped out on his dudes in his first firefight.
The problem is that this guy shit talks about things that are easily proven wrong.
He besmirches the personalities of multiple seals more successful than him, by describing their personalities in ways that actual contemporary sources disagree with.
Who am I going to trust when hearing about who these people where, the people who serve with them or a bitter old man? Seal or no seal, I’ll go with the contemporary sources
They’re not telling the whole story. I’m sure he actually felt that way but it was stated in the book that he was unable to reach his dying fellow soldier because he’d fallen too far down the hill. He covered his ears - that had to be a painful sound! You can’t cover your ears unless you set your gun down! Never judge a person because you weren’t in his shoes!
Man, I can’t imagine what these guys were put through in the war, but it’s baffling to me to think that a guy who had completed navy seal training would even behave like this…. Every time I see Marcus I think to myself, “how did someone do seemingly out of shape ever get to where he did?”
If you weren't there, whatever you say doesn't mean shit.
Thats how I feel about it
Ya not in the military. That’s a cop out for not learning from mistakes. We as Medics scrutinize what other Medics/Corpsman do in order to get better.
@devinlindberg253 stfu, this isnt a after action this is a hit piece
Lmao biggest cop out ever. “If you didn’t see it, it didn’t happen!” So apparently every historian ever was wrong since they weren’t there
Yeap didn’t shoot not one shot while the others were ran away like a coward all that training he did was hell an look how that turned out
After watching the actual footage I am disappointed BUT, who the hell are we to say we wouldn’t do the same. You don’t know till you’re there.
What footage?
@@JohnPuntoCom look it up. The actual footage of the gun fight. Its more trees and audio but you can here Mike calling out
You only saw a part of the interview. They cut it to make it sound really bad. If they had not cut it, you would’ve heard Marcus say he’d fallen so far he couldn’t get back
@@saylorisat I'm 100% sure. If there was footage. It would've been made known. Marcus would've brought up 'footage' any of the 100 times he's told this story. There's no footage.
@@GingerBreadMan1080I saw the Taliban pov footage on YT. You can hear LT.Murphy yelling for Marcus to come back while they’re getting blasted by two PKM’s.
I just think the Navy gave him orders to go big on the story, bc it would be a shame for them to acknowledge the whole op was a disaster from the start.
Why did he have 11 full magazines on him when he was found?
He stated that Mike Murphy handed him his magazines when he went out in the draw ….So that explains a lot
@@kathygarske-qm9kf LOL pure lie Marcus booked it down the hill once the first round was fired.
And yet none of us were there!!
@@haroldverdecia5490 Evidently there is plenty of drone footage that will be released.
@@haroldverdecia5490 And yet in his first interview he saw he threw down his rifle, curled up in a ball,and put his fingers in his ears.
The antihero podcast “part delta force Part Streep cop All jealous haters”
I was led to believe that the reason for the hell of buds was to weed out quitters. He froze in combat, I get it happend. My grandfather said he froze in ww2 and had to get his senses back because of the sheer chaos.
He felt helpless, because he couldn't do anything to help murph , i wasn't there & neither were any of you . He feels Guilty because there was not a thing he could do !!!
He had 11 full magazines on him when the nightstalkers picked him up. Shame.
Say who? Either post a link or stop skuttle but their leathernuts?
Yeah OK, sure he did, you where there you know every detail!!!
@@davidduvall4846it was in the after action report and they recovered all the gear and bodies
@davidduvall4846 it was in the AARs of the Marines that picked him up in the helo he WALKED to, he was uninjured.
@@ericsea7783 and you seen the AARs? Since when have they been made public?
SEAL Team Leadership is the real culprit here. Marcus had been truthful. Leadership has spun the narrative to protect their brand name. People need to watch this whole interview. And this dude here isn’t a hater, he is also a Navy SEAL who has spent time researching the actual events of Red Wings. There’s a lot to this.
Luttrell is very open about how he found his breaking point in that moment, it's part of the story he tells on a lot of speaking engagements. i don't understand why you want to talk shit about a litteral hero in 2024 when men like Luttrell are becoming rarer and rarer by the year
Marcus is a True hero in my book Jesus bless you sir SEALS are the best, we know the truth my guy, there was no way they would have sent 7 terrorist to hunt only 4 guys in these mountains, they would have called for back up asap!
We’ll have a lot more answers (if or when )the Pred UAV footage of Marcus is released….
Either way, my overall opinion of the NSW community has been completely rocked listening to this podcast. I don’t think I will ever read a SEAL book or watch a SEAL movie/ podcast ever again. Makes me even question the Eddie Gallagher trial, and I was pretty convinced he was innocent and set up by his teammates … At this point, who the fuck knows when you have a community full of pathological liars.
I think that’s sorta why I believe they just fucked Eddie over. He did nothing and the SEAL community seems super toxic with a bunch of narcissists and fake brothers. NCIS rolled in and they were all so fckn scared they basically just made up shit about Eddie to point NCIS in ANY direction AWAY from themselves. Besides that you got Marcus Rob O’Neill and Chris Kyle so far some of the biggest military movies and popular books about SEAL stuff EVER and they’re all liars? That is NOT fckn good.
There is no drone footage of that part of the mission
Yo dude… read the book Code before Country about the many crimes of SEAL team 6.
I haven’t looked at the SEALs positivley in a long time. Green Betet, rangers, marine raiders, CTC, Delta… those guys are real quite professionals
To be fair, I can see how that would fuck eddie more than help him. Nobody wanted to stick their neck out for him even though none of the accusers could keep their story straight and would often contradict themselves. Everything about that trial was weird. They denied him almost any ability to defend himself properly, were caught spying on him along with not just the lawyer but the law firm I think. One way or the other it turned into a potential lawsuit that they absolutely wouldnt have been able to deny and without a doubt would've lost. That makes me think they threw him under the bus to avoid more seal community drama at a time when it was high. I know, it OBVIOUSLY didnt help but you see how all of these stories have snowballed and continue to avoid acknowledging.
I worked construction with a Seal that’d been excommunicated from the community after calling out Gallaghers BS. He had threatened his family and all kinds of crazy stuff. He literally had to flee Coronado because he thought he was being set up. His house got broken into multiple times and he knew something bad was about to happen.
It’s crazy how accurate Terminal List is about the inner conflicts and corruption in the teams. This guy was permanently paranoid even though we’re in rural Montana. It was really intense being around him and I hope he’s found peace.
Hero is what he is !! He couldn't get to Murphy he fail off the ledge/cliff and nothing he could do !!
I really truly dislike how this man cut down Marcus as though he was a full blown coward… he wasn’t there and this small clip was isolated. I can’t imagine what this must feel like…
No one knows what they will do until the time arises
I disagree. I cowards infiltrate many units. Do you know what you signed up for ?
you must be able to pee into any wind without getting wet... stud@@jeffmays1755
We know what 3 of his teammates did.
Tell me what did they do,? while you were eating chetto's at your keyboard. tell the doc's you have a case of the orange helmet. Or were you even old enough? still puking on yourself and having your mom wipe your backside. What did his teammates do?@@davidb8618
Tell me what did they do,? while you were eating chetto's at your keyboard. tell the doc's you have a case of the orange helmet. Or were you even old enough? still puking on yourself and having your mom wipe your backside. What did his teammates do?@@davidb8618@@davidb8618
I bought the book and fell for the BS
Alot of us did. I knew the movie was over the top, people, navy seals or not, don't all get shot 20x before they die out of sheer toughness. A fatal shot is a fatal shot to everyone. But I believed most of it
So you believe this dude?
@@johnclark5914 more than I believe the millionaire puppet who can't get his story straight...
Its easy to criticize someone in a situation that fucked up
That fucked up? Actual military reports suggest there were only 8 Taliban going against 4 SEALS.
That old man is the most bitter dude I've ever seen. He's talked shit about every single famous SEAL I wonder why.
He’s a legendary SEAL himself
Because they are as fake and full of shit as Chris Kyle, that's why.
God bless our fighting men and women.
Until you've been in his situation, you can not judge him.
😂😂😂 you help your people period
Yes TF you can… he started and ammo company, a clothing company, wrote a book and sold it for millions to make the movie.. He got wealthy off of his fellow seals deaths. He’s the lone survivor because he ran away. In the army we have creed and part of it says.. “I will NEVER leave a fallen comrade” we live together we die together, Marcus Lutrell is a straight up BITCH and poor excuse for a human being. Just look at what he did or should I say didnt do for the elder afghan that hid him until he could be rescued. The poor guy and his family were on the run from the Taliban for a decade because Lutrell didn’t keep his promise and bring him and his family to Texas like he promised he would… spare me the you don’t know what you’ll do til that you stuff… There are times like that maybe in some other cases of something else but this one ain’t it
Clearly you didn't watch the interview. He criticizes Marcus for lying about the entire operation. At the end of the interview he even says it's not entirely Marcus' fault in that it was his first mission. Watch the interview before you come at him like that.
@Milton_Waddams. always help your people, that first mission bs is not an excuse, not at his level of training. I would accept that if you were a mechanic, administrative, and other support roles. But not a Seal try again
@@geneburdette5238 I agree. It's even worse than him simply leaving them. One of them talks about how they had an old bunk mate who was in the ranger unit that rescued Marcus and he said Marcus told them the rest of the SEALS were dead (also pointed out that all his mags were full). Due to them going off this intel they decided to go about finding the guys in a less hasty manner in order to be more safety conscious. Because of this it took them 10 days all together to find all 3 bodies. The last guy they found on the 10th appeared to have only been dead for a day or 2. They might have saved that man had they not been under the assumption he was dead...
crazy, everyone is a tough guy til they are at the end of that gun....God bless these real men... All of them.
He’s a coward, he didn’t stay around to hear his “teammate” who he left behind scream his name. He’s a liar, profited off his “teammates” death. He’s such a bad ass, he was found with all his mags full still, even in his rifle there was a full mag.
I’m confused 😮
Post a source
So marky mark played a coward in the movie
He couldn't get to Murphy because of the difficulty it was to climb back up the mountain after he fell down 30 plus meters?? also being pinned down by the taliban gun fire on both center and both flanks. Has anyone on this podcast ever been in a gunfight what tf??
I've been in Gun fights and had to overcome that fear of hurting people or being hurt brotherly love gave me courage, it's terrifying anyway!
Be careful....if him abandoning his teammates to die alone caused him to need a support dog 24/7 I wonder what he will need when the world realizes his story was all a lie??
I'm a Marine veteran and I know a Airforce veteran that's never seen combat, never been near it and he has a support dog and full disability because of his severe ptsd ..he keeps dreaming of people and children losing their lives in war..war that he's never seen. I guess it's all how you're raised because I could never embellish or lie about my service.
@@MrStaybrown I agree. you can not teach integrity
I was more so just calling Marcus a non-truth telling (YT friendly) co war d that left his teammates to die. I can not WAIT until that predator footage has to be released.
@@MrStaybrownHe's what we in the army called a " Milker". I bet he didn't even finish his enlistment, before finding a way to get out on some bullshit mental/medical discharge, and once back home it was straight to the VA for his benefits.
This is frustrating because I had several relatives who served from ww2 to Vietnam, in both army and marine infantry, and I never remember any of them depending on shit like a "support dog"or getting anything close to full disability. I also see guys like me, who served in peacetime, going to the VA and sucking up benefits that should be reserved only for personnel who have combat related illnesses or injuries. No wonder we have real veterans offing themselves daily.
I don’t know who the old man is at the end. But he’s got some big balls to draw conclusions about that day.
Well he was a Navy Diver, and SEAL. Listen to the whole podcast. The first hour and a half is about that gentlemans background and why he's qualified to talk about it. Also none of this is new information. Read Matthew Cole's book "Code Over Country."
I think drone footage told the truth. Seak out that info if you're curious.
DOD has drone footage of him running away during the gun fight...the whole story was BS
DOD has footage of what? What are your sources for that info?
he has facts.. people that were there. Plus people that seen the drone video
only a person in that situation can say anything. Him firing his weapon wouldn’t have made any difference at all. but he gotta live with that pain of screaming and passing
This is gross man…. They were being hunted by THREE HUNDRED MEN. Stop pretending he didn’t help his friend in an easy to help scenario
They were NOT, it was TOPS a dozen.... And in the after-action report luttrell had pretty much every magazine he left the base with... So basically s*** popped off and he ran off
It was like 12 dudes on a ridge line. Unfortunately you can find the talibans video footage of the op on RUclips. A couple rpk’s can lay down enough hate to make your force seem slightly larger than it is
@American-BadAss732 glad you were there to clear that up for us.
@American-BadAss732 a dozen tops?I understand he said it was many more,but let's say 12 vs 4,higher ground,all knew the area,unlimited ammunition.however he escaped he very lucky
@@christoph9587 it's called an after-action report... Look it up
Let this guy be put in Marcus place, and see how brave he'd be. Stop criticizing our soldiers.
That's not what this is about, it's about the truth
He is a soldier so he can critique his ass all day
This guy is a soldier... he's been on 3 SEAL teams and retired as an E8. If he can't criticize soldiers than who can? I can tell you didn't watch this interview or else you would have known that. Theirs a good reason he's criticizing Marcus Lutrell you should listen to it before you come at him like this.
There is nothing wrong with being a coward but profiteering from someones death is BS.
@@rul1175 Um if you enlist and sign up for that job and you end up costing lives due to cowardice I absolutely think there is something wrong with that...
People forget he went back into combat after he recovered from this the book is very diffrent from the movie
The question is, how many people would have made that far in this battle. Everyone has a snapping point, this was his.
He had no chance TO help, he was down the hill and torn up. He lost his wit because he couldnt handle hearing his brother be killed while he is helpless to do anything. He didnt duck out in a firefight.
He chose survival over certain death ☠️ just as his team would had wanted him to do. When all is lost live to fight another day.
Why is it that people get so offended when the truth finally comes out? It’s ok to realize most of these guys are not who they claim to be. Especially the ones that chase the spotlight.
SEALS eat their own. Even they admit it. Worst SOF in the US in terms of loyalty.
That’s crazy to be the top 4 going on a mission an deep down guys really don’t like each other an would let em die if it means to save theirs
He probably regrets this everyday of his life! Nightmares !! Lost his BFF and mentally couldn't take it, regret of not helping and try save his team mate
The whole clip he explains he fell down to far down the mountain and couldn't reach Murph, he was helpless everyone has a opinion but YOU WEREN'T THERE, let alone how many of you had bullets fly pass you .
What I have learned in my life is that it is quite difficult to assess a situation that you have not witnessed firsthand. Putting it bluntly and looking at things in black and white can quickly tempt us to develop a firm opinion and thereby become convinced that we have the facts, while the whole event is only partly clear to us.
It is important to approach situations with an open mind and consider different perspectives before coming to any conclusions. It is also important to be aware of our own biases and preconceptions, and to be willing to admit when we may have been mistaken in our assumptions.
More balls than most men to admit his "failure". But bro. For me, personally, I would probably break at that point too. It's called the moment of realisation. War is a vile game. No place for normal lads. No place for anyone really, only the shareholders and politicians benefit from your sacrifices.
No one has the right to judge someone who has been through this.
Yeap didn’t shoot not one shot while the others were ran away like a coward all that training he did was hell an look how that turned out, I’ll do better without the training 🤣
I can only imagine how hard it is for him to say that! Right or wrong what he did it's still hard to admit that he's got a heart
As a military mom I’m disgusted by his armchair quarterbacking a disaster of a mission. Shame on him. Shame.
Call me weak but , hes not a coward in my book. By God , he made it to the fight !!! You can hear the pain in his voice !! 💯 Respect Soldier !! Salute !!
Yeap didn’t shoot not one shot while the others were ran away like a coward all that training he did was hell an look how that turned out
All these people in the comments weren't there. Something clearly haunts Marcus because he didn't do what he should of. He calls himself a "coward" so clearly let his team down in his opinion
Yes as a former soldier that is the ultimate betrayal of a Conrad and goes against all our training very cowardice. Wonder how Murphs family feels about you sir.
That was brave of him to come forward and get honest. I am a trauma therapist for veterans and I am a veteran. Now I am concerned Marcus is at risk to become one of the 22 per day. I hope not and I hope he is getting help.
Its crazy how special operations is turning into pro wrestling. And this guy speaking is like Scott Steiner. Just calling everyone out stirring up drama nobody compares to him. Hes the real deal nobody else is.