Frankfurt to Paris on a FAST 320km/h DB ICE 3 Velaro D High Speed Train!

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @fredburley9512
    @fredburley9512 6 месяцев назад +31

    What a quality train. I like the re-introduction of wood paneling on the interiors, adds some feeling of luxury to your journey. 👍

  • @psausp
    @psausp 6 месяцев назад +17

    Did London -> Paris -> Munich two years ago in First Class. Can agree to the praise of the Velario. Eurostar and the ICE from Stuttgart to Munich have been amazing. The TGV was fast, but their 1st class was less comfortable than 2nd class in any ICE from my experience.

  • @anderslarsen6009
    @anderslarsen6009 6 месяцев назад +8

    I did in in june 2022, just reverse and with a TGV Duplex but also in first class. But because of track works we did take another route from the german border to Frankfurt that was around 30-40 minutes longer than usual.

  • @Djsj1313
    @Djsj1313 Месяц назад +1

    Great channel great content so glad I found your channel. I lived in Germany from 1980-1985 and remember my parents and I using the DB IC trains all the time

  • @JenniferRussell-qw2co
    @JenniferRussell-qw2co 8 дней назад

    This video has helped cement some ideas for a trip next year. It's the perfect link for a multi city/country holiday. I often struggle with choosing between France and Germany, now I can do both. Fly to Frankfurt, (sirry), ICE to Strasbourg for a couple or so nights, ICE to Paris, another stay there, then Eurostar home 🤗 I've always loved trains, but have flown to most destinations, however I am converting where I see the opportunity. The nighttrains bother me a bit, unless I can have an en suite. Sharing accommodation is a stretch too far for me, but having full facilities eliminates the need for an hotel, so that can be a very good option. Thank you for all the info and ideas 🙋‍♀️🤗

  • @barnabynorman157
    @barnabynorman157 6 месяцев назад +3

    I took the service between Stuttgart and Paris at the end of lock-down. A first class ticket booked on the day cost me 93 euros which is a snip compared to the £345 that eurostar charged me to the second leg. The train was just as you described, clean and punctual although we had to change train sets in Karlsruhe for some reason. My second leg was very poor, crowded into the security area of gar de Nord with no services and scruffy train back. Thanks for sharing.

  • @simonbaker6962
    @simonbaker6962 6 месяцев назад +10

    im in Germany next week and will be going first class from Dortmund to Hamburg. From there to Vienna on the new OBB night train.

    • @OMtheRails
      @OMtheRails  6 месяцев назад +3

      Enjoy, it’s a great train!

  • @the_oreo_whale
    @the_oreo_whale 6 месяцев назад +8

    Great video as always! There’s been a big big update to the IC and ICN services by trenitalia, with new liveries, services and trainsets! I would love to see a review on this soon!

    • @OMtheRails
      @OMtheRails  6 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you, I’ll try and arrange it when I can!

  • @ce1834
    @ce1834 6 месяцев назад +2

    Took the same route but going through Kaiserslautern and Saarbrücken - ICE trains are the best out there imo, masterclass in design and more spacious/comfortable 🙌

  • @FoCoBuzz
    @FoCoBuzz 2 месяца назад +1

    I think the interiors of the ICE trains are so elegant. I have not travelled on there in almost 10 years but there was a certain high quality feel from that interior that the French double-decker TGVs lack. I really like the TGVs and if the two were sitting side by side it would be a tough choice! I am considering a trip across Europe via train next summer and I may try to get an ICE in there!

  • @Londoncycleroutes
    @Londoncycleroutes 6 месяцев назад +12

    You actually part-alluded to one other reason why the London ICE services didn't happen - the stock you're on was needed to replace/reinforce unreliable existing international services (even though it was originally ordered for a London service)

    • @rabitec.
      @rabitec. 5 месяцев назад +1

      Another reason why it didn't work out is that the Operators of the Eurotunnel require the Rolling Stock that passes through the tunnel to be 400m fully walk through (for emergency evacuation reasons I think), which neither the DB Class 406 nor 407/408 are.

  • @MichaelScherkamp
    @MichaelScherkamp 6 месяцев назад +9

    Hi. Great Video, but don't you think that the ticking noise is for the People with visual impairmant? Reduced hearing people can see the doors.

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe 6 месяцев назад +4

    In Vendenheim took place the first and only deadly accident in the history of the TGV . A pre-opening test train went to fast into the connecting curve and derailed and killed 11 people.
    The HSL Est-Européen is designed for speeds up to 350km/h but operational costs are too high for that speed…

  • @mariokrings
    @mariokrings 3 месяца назад +1

    [1:36] Happy you recognized later on, that platform 24 was the train above yours (RB10 to Neuwied). 😛

  • @vincentstuer
    @vincentstuer 6 месяцев назад +2

    i should really try this service at some point during an interrail, it is kinda just awkward for me tho as it connects 2 cities i have more direct rail connections too so i doubt i will take these any time soon. i still loved watching the video despite the ice wifi (ice 4 from switzerland)

  • @WINGSANDRAILS
    @WINGSANDRAILS 5 месяцев назад +2

    Nice video! if the German trains are on time it is a comfy way of travel

    • @iuciubbb
      @iuciubbb 28 дней назад

      On time, but outside Germany.

  • @Voyagerthe2nd
    @Voyagerthe2nd 6 месяцев назад +4

    Bit unusual to run a 16-car set from Frankfurt to Paris. How good!

  • @AustinKelly94
    @AustinKelly94 6 месяцев назад +2

    It'll be great when Germany constructs it's high speed line to the border. I've read Paris to Frankfurt will be 2 hours 30 minutes then

  • @thegaelicgladiator665
    @thegaelicgladiator665 14 дней назад

    The American mind can not comprehend this

  • @happyslappy5203
    @happyslappy5203 6 месяцев назад +20

    Frankfurt to Paris: 475 km, 4 hours
    Paris to Bordeaux: 570 km, 2 hours 10 mn

    • @user-cz9ss4yq4x
      @user-cz9ss4yq4x 6 месяцев назад +19

      It makes sense, the German population is more dispersed, so there comparatively more attention to the regional rail network. France is much larger than Germany but Germany has 10000km more rail. This also means high speed trains have to share routes with regional rail which slows them down.

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@user-cz9ss4yq4xGermany is slightly larger then France. It’s population is 1,6 times as large

    • @kokotheclown
      @kokotheclown 6 месяцев назад +16

      Germany isn't centralised around one city. So there are more interdependencies on service. It's impossible for German high speed trains to be as fast or as punctual as french trains and would make no sense. Still a lot of room for improvement though, and things have gotten worse over the last 10 years.

    • @user-cz9ss4yq4x
      @user-cz9ss4yq4x 6 месяцев назад +10

      @@MrJimheeren I meant France being larger in terms of area, not population.

    • @user-cz9ss4yq4x
      @user-cz9ss4yq4x 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@kokotheclown I guess it's gotten worse in other parts but the south has seen some nice improvements. The new Go-Ahead regional trains run very reliably and frequently now after a painful start and they easily go 150km/h.
      I made the journey from Munich airport to Augsburg in about an 1:30h yesterday (15 min deboarding, 40 min S-Bahn, 25 min ICE, few minutes of wait times). This is an hour faster than it used to be due to scheduling bubbles. Stuttgart 21 is finally completing soon too which upgrades the whole south of the country and Europe west-east rail at large.
      All of this comfort comes at the cost of lower top speeds for ICEs at least until the Deutschlandtakt is ready...

  • @oskarpurkiss1638
    @oskarpurkiss1638 6 месяцев назад

    I'd love to do this train service. Albeit between Paris and Strasbourg

  • @ringo7561
    @ringo7561 6 месяцев назад +14

    I really like the ICE trains....i did this trip on a Eurail first class pass, I think I had to pay around a 20.00 reservation fee, but it was worth it. I went from Germany to Paris on a TGV and came back on the ICE

    • @Patrick-on2ty
      @Patrick-on2ty 6 месяцев назад +1

      6euro

    • @ringo7561
      @ringo7561 6 месяцев назад

      @Patrick-on2ty nah, it's more then six euros on an ICE train to Paris....its the only segment where I had to pay a reservation fee on an ICE train....the ones to Belgium and Switzerland don't need one....this was first class though

    • @Patrick-on2ty
      @Patrick-on2ty 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@ringo7561 Sometimes you need it and it's 5,90 for the train to Switzerland in First class. i ride this route 3 or 4 times a year from Berlin -Bern via Basel and 20,- is a lie!

    • @Patrick-on2ty
      @Patrick-on2ty 6 месяцев назад

      @@ringo7561 db booking app

    • @ringo7561
      @ringo7561 6 месяцев назад

      @Patrick-on2ty I've always jumped on ICE trains both going to Switzerland to and from Germany ( about 8 times total)....I just find an empty seat in first class with my Eurail Global first class pass. I've never been asked to pay a reservation fee from the train ticket taker. I guess I've gotten lucky each time.

  • @HerrGru
    @HerrGru 6 месяцев назад

    I only took the TGV between germany and Paris… But in tow weeks i am going to take an ice to Visit Paris again

  • @IncognitoTS1
    @IncognitoTS1 2 месяца назад

    Great Video!
    Do you know by any chance these and the e320 are electric or diesel?

  • @781David
    @781David 6 месяцев назад

    I've never been to Europe, hopefully in 2026...
    I'll definitely have to try some high speed trains if I do make it, most trains in Europe would likely be faster than what we have in Australia.

  • @TracksOfBritain
    @TracksOfBritain 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is it just me or did the ice doors sound sounded like a class 380 in the uk?

  • @BenjaminSchubert6789
    @BenjaminSchubert6789 6 месяцев назад +1

    There will be No >300mk/h lines in Germany because the benefits of time savings are too small compared to the amount of enenergy consumption due to the short distances. So the the Velaro D are only capable of 320km/h...because they use the LGV Est.

  • @joemercedeschannel196
    @joemercedeschannel196 6 месяцев назад

    Can I request you something please.
    Can you maybe do the WMR Class 730 sometime as they have ow entered passenger service on the Cross City line between Bromsgrove and Lichfield.
    That would be appreciated. Thanks.
    Great video once again Midland.

  • @daanwolters3751
    @daanwolters3751 6 месяцев назад +4

    DB wont revive the train to london, both frankfurth and colone main station are already seeing more trains than the station was designed to handle (and good luck enlarging the station since it is in the middle of the city) so they are unwilling to sacrifice an entire platform for the passport controls, as the platform could otherwise serve a lot more trains. And belgium, understandably, is not keen on letting the german trains have an enourmous stop in brussels to do the checks there, as brussels also has better uses for that capacity. Especially since you cannot buy trough tickets to other stations in the uk, making it less attractive to use the channel tunnel if you need to go to another city in the uk.
    So unless there is a check in system where people can have their passports checked online beforehand, skipping the need for passport checks at the station, or the UK decides to just do the checks in st. pancras. There wont be a direct gemany-london connection anytime soon.

    • @barrieshepherd7694
      @barrieshepherd7694 6 месяцев назад

      Only wonders if the passport control difficulties are deliberate to halt the development of UK - EU train services for fear of upsetting the airline industry.

    • @jandron94
      @jandron94 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@barrieshepherd7694The channel tunnel is Anglo-French, the access LGV line is French, the Eurostar Group is mainly a French company (55% SNCF) ... so no benefit indeed in making things esay for Eurostar (though Siemens did manage to sell them their trains).
      I vaguely guess the Germans (the Government, DB, Lufthansa, whatever...) are waiting for some sort of eventual copartnership in the managment of that "international" tunnel/line and the creation of a Eurostar competitor that could be Anglo-Dutch-German or German-Belgio-French... whatever as long as Germans are a big part of it and get some good income out of it... basically they only want to participate if they are too a "top player" (at least equal to the UK or even France)
      There are a bit more Germans than French living within a 500km distance from the Tunnel... There is the Brussels "bottleneck" but a bypass (mainly tunnel) is not unconceivable...
      In 8 years both Turin and Milan will be within 4 hour of Paris (through the Alps !) ... in a sense it shows where priorities are in governments...

  • @wavesnbikes
    @wavesnbikes 6 месяцев назад

    Yes, the Restaurant and cafe sets the ICE apart. Kudos to DB.
    The TGV seats is the only thing I like about TGV, now.
    I have never encountered a comfortable seat on any Siemens train.
    SNCF is very shitty when it comes to clean trains and food service. It seems the French Railways no longer have any pride.

  • @ThunderTiger0801
    @ThunderTiger0801 6 месяцев назад +1

    5:15 whats the point of building a 300 km/h line for the short leg of Frankfurt to Mannheim if you can only travel at up to 250 km/h between Mannheim and Stuttgart + Stuttgart and Ulm and even slower from Ulm to Munich anyways?

    • @larthvader112
      @larthvader112 6 месяцев назад +5

      New lines are planned based on a future timetable (Deutschlandtakt). 29 minutes travelling time between Frankfurt and Mannheim is needed to reach all connections in Mannheim. With the chosen route, it's only possible with 300kmh

  • @Patrick-on2ty
    @Patrick-on2ty 6 месяцев назад +1

    1.clas has 2 Buttons 🤔 1 at the side and 1 under the seat!

    • @torstenwinkler1157
      @torstenwinkler1157 17 часов назад

      indeed... one to control the recline, the other to control the length of the seat cushion

  • @DarrellMarch90
    @DarrellMarch90 8 дней назад

    Why are the two wnds different?

  • @TuneTamasha
    @TuneTamasha 6 месяцев назад

    do you feel nausea at that speed?

  • @srikanthshastry4546
    @srikanthshastry4546 6 месяцев назад

    40€ ahh what a bargain!

  • @zaired
    @zaired 5 месяцев назад

    I wouldn't recommend taking this train starting from July 2024 to December 2024, as the main line between Frankfurt and Mannheim will be completely shutdown and 1/3 long distance train will be cancelled

  • @barrieshepherd7694
    @barrieshepherd7694 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have never understood the provision of foot rests on trains. They don't add to comfort, must add to weight and maintenance work and always seem to hit my ankles or restrict access - altogether a waste of time IMHO.

  • @CMBelite-FR
    @CMBelite-FR 2 месяца назад

    How could an ICE travels on French railway ? The signalisations are way différents and the speed control balise are différents

  • @tld8102
    @tld8102 6 месяцев назад

    Why aren't we more outraged at the Eurostar monopoly?

  • @brian402
    @brian402 2 месяца назад

    Far better and much more enjoyable option instead of flying i reckon, and with my love affair for trains globally i prefer trains over planes to get around., only fly when i really like....have too!. Awesome train travel report there OM the Rails🚝👍

  • @Angryvideokidnerd
    @Angryvideokidnerd 5 месяцев назад

    ah yes the 120min delay train

  • @Danielzsy
    @Danielzsy 5 месяцев назад

    I wish it reaches 380km/h

  • @DrNagi
    @DrNagi 6 месяцев назад

    3:37 reduced hearing? Don't you mean reduced sight?

    • @OMtheRails
      @OMtheRails  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yes apologies, made a typo by mistake! Many thanks for letting me know 👍

    • @benjibatch
      @benjibatch 3 месяца назад

      I’m glad you said something I was about to say, people don’t find doors by sound usually do they? 😂😂😂

  • @trainlagged
    @trainlagged 6 месяцев назад

    great video, better than superlabs travels

  • @sirenity8839
    @sirenity8839 Месяц назад

    omg Frankfurt Station, if u have to commute from there, it s a mess

  • @il9988
    @il9988 3 месяца назад

    You’re wrong in Germany the Ice is allowed to drive 320 kmh and can for example between Munich and Berlin

    • @OMtheRails
      @OMtheRails  3 месяца назад +2

      No I'm not, Munich to Berlin is limited to 300km/h - I've done that service several times now. There's nowhere in Germany ICEs do above 300km/h.

    • @iuciubbb
      @iuciubbb 28 дней назад

      No way, I know that line and for sure you can't reach such a speed. Sometimes you even run slower.

  • @Lynxfan2
    @Lynxfan2 6 месяцев назад

    Hello Midland London, this is a very enjoyable video. Is the LGV EST Line the same route that runs between Paris - Lyon which opened in 1981 or were you on a different French high speed line?
    Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce. St Albans. Hertfordshire.

    • @KyrilPG
      @KyrilPG 6 месяцев назад +1

      No, the line between Paris and Lyon is the LGV Sud-Est (Southeast), which opened partially in 1981 and fully in 1983.
      The fastest lines in France are the LGV SEA (Tours Bordeaux, extending LGV Atlantique all the way to Bordeaux and reducing travel times to 2 hours and 3 or 4 minutes), LGV Est between Paris and Strasbourg or the German border, LGV BPL between le Mans and Rennes, LGV Rhin-Rhône that is a stretch between Alsace and Lyon's regions.
      Currently, there's the Bordeaux Toulouse that is being built.
      These lines are operated at 320kph.
      Other older lines are limited at 300kph.

  • @OldSchool-px1xk
    @OldSchool-px1xk 6 месяцев назад

    Folks, I need to pour water into the wine. In theory, the ICEneo is Europe's most recommendable HST next to Italy's Frecciarossa 1000, which I regard the the currently best train in Europe. However. I am from Germany and a frequent business traveller on the Frankfurt to Düsseldorf route. Here, ICE3neo already are in revenue service. My general experience with ICE travel is: Out of 10 services, on 5 the restaurant is closed, serves only drinks or none at all because the kitchen is broken or the coffee machine, or the crew didn't show for work - they are never short of reasons not to serve the passengers. What is more you urgently should avoid to have any litter, the litter boxes are a joke. Until couple of years ago, a cleaning guy would walk the train every hour end to end and collect trash into a big bag - gone. Most likely cost cutting measure so the upper managers to get an even higher bonus. Which they are gettiing anyway. Not for making the German railroad the reliable transportation again it used to be for 150 or so years. Came rain or shine, the train was alwasy 'there" and on time - back in the days when I was young. Maybe they did not have these fancy high-spped ICE, but snow could pile up to the sky - the trains were running. On the dining car, they served real cooked meals on real china, not these microwave crap they serve today. But, of course, strictly vegan and organic. Today, for German railroad management it is only important they hire enough women and immigrants and all that stuff. DEI at highest standards outside the Harvard university. It is just into May and I already have had my fair share of passengers sitting next to you, listing loudly to music from their smartphones, making video calls on loudspeaker to Syria or Afghanistan. I witnessed two brawls about reserved seats, and no conductor bothered to show up... I could tell you a whole lot more. Not for all of these issues the DB is at fault. But often I wish in Germany, trains couldn't be accessed without any check or control. Recently, I was in the US, in Florida. They now have this Brightline service from Miami to Orlando. It isn't high speed. only a small section at 125 mph, the rest is 79 to 90 mph. But service is much better. The stations... you wouldb't believe what is possible, if you only know German railroad stations. Clean you could eat from the floor. No smell of piss, no beggars, pickpockets or drug pushers which are frequent attendants at Frankfurt Central. Security is similar to air travel, but it makes the journey more secure.
    How is the situation in the UK? As bad, or is it any better. Any yes - at times, my ICE is on time, the toilets not defect and the other passenger quiet and polite. But that would be one joureny out of 10.

  • @Matthew-p2h
    @Matthew-p2h 17 дней назад

    The phrase "from London to Europe" will not make sense to Americans.