I got stuck real bad once while camping in a remote forestry area. 4x4 and mud tires weren't enough that day. I had to wait many hours until a guy with a winch happened to drive by. It was the only vehicle I saw that entire weekend, and I'm lucky he was prepared when I wasn't. Traction boards and a shovel permanently live under the back seat since then
You know your in trouble when you have off-road tires and a true 4 wheel drive and you get stuck. I watch Matt’s Off-road towing and I see how useful having a winch is. Traction boards and a shovel are great things to carry.
@@mikefoehr235 Only if there is something to anchor to... I was in the desert last weekend and a winch would have been useless. Kinetic rope, traction boards and a shovel. And don't go alone.
Sorry I haven’t finished watching the whole video yet I just couldn’t wait to give everyone an extremely useful tip! A tip that should always work no matter the type of terrain your stuck in and it’s something that pretty much all cars have and it’s something that you first step on each time you get into your car…..It’s something that can save your day or maybe even save your life…so here it comes…in one…two….three….your car’s FLOOR MATS!!!! Before you start looking for sticks and twigs and rocks and or people, look in your car for those handy dandy mats and take them out and then put them under the driven wheels or in awd/4wd vehicles the wheels with better chances of getting traction and ultimately getting you unstuck…I had a stranger help me one time when I was stuck in snow and to my embarrassment he was able to very quickly and very easily get my car unstuck, he just simply pulled my cars floor mats and placed them under the front wheels (fwd car) and told me to drive forward and sure enough my front wheels were gripping the floor mats really good and so, short story long…..I was stuck no more!!! So much for those hours of brainstorming different things I could try to get my car unstuck when the answer was right under my nose or should I say, right under my feet….
take the seat belt out of the car and put it over your shoulder (like a backpack) and pull the car as if you were a horse harnessed to a cart. I think the two guys would have taken the car out immediately.
This car is owned by Mazda and unless they loaned this one out for several days, there is probably another journo waiting to review it and they'd rather not have chewed up floor mats😂
@@jbm0866 I rather have to buy new floor mats then having to pay for a tow truck to come rescue me which I imagine would be more expensive then 2 Mats, but i see what you mean that would be pretty funny to see their faces when they first get into the vehicle and come upon some nasty ass shredded mangled looking front mats….
The problem was you treated it like it was tracked tank when it didn't even have 3 peak snow rated tires. Those are simple all weather tires. Plus you treated the car like it didn't belong to you, which it didn't.
There was plenty of power in the rear you had 0 traction . Proper tires would have made a bit of difference . Also you were high centered . This is not a matter of not having torque . You could have a 4 wheel locker with 1000 ftlbs of torque ,but stuck in a rut uphill on ice with 0 traction torque is 0 regardless of the powertrain . The video clearly shows the awd spinning the rear wheel that shows it was doing its job well
The problem isnt the car.......no sane person takes a compact cuv up in the mountains with 2 feet of snow in the odd spot with 7 inches of ground clearance and Turanza all season tires. Stop complaining how bad the awd system is. When all 4 wheels are spinning, its the tires not the awd system. You might as well be driving on rims up there. And as far as the on road driving characteristics of the car go.....its the champ in its class. Nothing even comes close. If you want something more, pony up and buy a Macan........horrible review and super unfair to Mazda and to the value of this vehicle.
Agreed, my mother bought one brand new for a very reasonable price from the dealership, and she loves how that car drives in bad conditions. It doesn't slide too much because it only weighs 3300 pounds
Sure we all find ourselves in a situations we didn't intend to be in, this review shows how the vehicle reacts in such situation. Really proved it is on road bias crossover where a Subaru is more skewed off-road, what some of us wanted to see in a test.
You have done a mistake, Ryan. Right after vehicle stops moving you need to stop spinning wheels and deflate all tires to half a regular pressure(15-17psi). Often only this will suffice and car would move again. If that isnt enough then someone needs to push from behind and finally you always have at least 4 floor mats in your car, use them as traction pads. Digging snow and ice with bare hands isnt good for your body at all, but I hope you will be fine.
@Paul Holterhaus He tests cars as they come. To not give an unfair advantage. He tests so many cars. Would you want him to put snow tires on every tester car he gets? I like these real world tests. This guy has a ton of experience and does this for a living. Your not telling him anything he doesn't already know.
All season tires do not work in deeper, especially wet, snow. The treads fill up with snow, packs solid and turns them into slicks. My wife has a 2021 CX-30 N/A and AWD. I fitted the car with 4 Michelin X-Ice snow tires. Last winter in New England that car never failed to go anywhere I pointed it, including some pretty deep snow and through snowbanks. It performed as well as the 2018 Outback she had previously. Dropping 1 wheel into a hole would likely stop most crossovers, including the Outback. Snow tires, without a doubt would have made all the difference.
Not so sure. The rear tires didn’t even spin. There was no AWD transfer. It just appeared to fail. I’m not so sure that the outback or a toyota would have a similar fail
@@martinr8278 They did spin, watch the very beginning, the first attempts of trying to get out. Later on the system got overheated and cut the rear axle power.
@@millerliteguruUnless they were the earlier ones with CVTs, and couldn't transfer enough torque to the drivetrain to climb a molehill. They finally figured out how to use a CVT and still put some torque down, but there for a while they completely ruined their off-road ability.
seriously the way you filmed this is fantastic. especially the outside/filming of the vehicle rolling up and down the road. is really great. I do like to see the overall vehicle in motion. the germans are the Top in exterior design. this Mazda looks great but like all Japanese automotive Companies. their tire specs are always narrow no matter the diameter of the wheels. still, tire specs are slim, unlike the Germans. their Tires Specs are wide. and that does change a lot. the overall character of the Vehicle. I have to add. I think if you have dedicated snow tires. probably it will be a different experience.
MASSIVE difference with Blizzaks.........Whole different Vehicle............Paul..........I once drove My Blizzak equiped Outback thru a continual 18" snow with front bumper acting as snow plow...............Paul
I’m looking at one of these tomorrow with the NA 2.5 liter and AWD for $24k. I need it for a new job I’m taking that extends up into the Sierra Nevada mountains in California so the AWD is a must. Looking forward to taking it for a test drive. We have a 2019 a CX9 touring and it’s been a great vehicle so far!
I love my 2024 mazda cx 30 carbon turbo. I have heavy duty tires on it non stock, and its freaking awesome. The inside of the car is so premium and this car is definitely my go to. My wife has a subaru 2024 wilderness crosstrek and I think they are both on par.
Another great review. Been watching your channel for about 2 yrs and learned so much from your very informative videos. My next vehicle will be an Outback Wilderness for soft roading, nothing crazy, plus it will be easy for my wife to drive to and from work in inclement weather.
Not sure why you are blaming the car? You said yourself if you go off track, you are dead in the water, so what do you do? Exactly what you said not too. I think you are asking the vehicle to do things that other vehicles in this class wouldn’t be able to do either. You set yourself and the Mazda up to fail.
Thanks for the honest video, showing you got stuck. The worst time I got stuck in snow with my FWD Mazda 3 on winter tires, I used the jack to lift the front wheel that was spinning the most to put some big pieces of wood underneath. Traction-aids (which I always keep in the trunk in the winter) were not sufficient in this case.
Filmed 6 months ago?! 😳 I knew you were a little behind in stuff, but did not expect it to be that old. I would have been surprised if this was done in September, but wow! Super surprised. You were far more "adventurous" than I would have been in that car running w/out recovery gear or a back up vehicle. That single track road you took more spirited in that vehicle than I would have as well. lol I mean, that is 4Runner territory as far as I am concerned. Nothing like an AWD system that fails when you really need it. lol Big lessons learned/re-learned for you here. Always be prepared. Glad you had people coming and going that could find and help you in a timely manner. When I run solo(with gear)I am not always in the most traveled areas. But I def. try to be. (phone and CB is part of my gear)
My experience on other vehicles is that turning off traction control helps when you'r taking off in deep snow. They should allow it to be disabled in this vehicle.
😂😂 Man you're the only one who can think of using a Cx30 with less than 7 inches of ground clearance in 1ft deep snow situations. Mazda's AWD has nothing to do with getting out of that snow. From what I saw your awd system did work but it didn't send traction to the rear wheels because the tires hadn't detected traction (even with 3 guys in trunk) that's because the front stall was so deep that the Cx30 kept sending all its power to the front. remember it's not 4x4. Next time don't go too deep into a crossover that's a multi-terrain but not an all- terrain.
I’d say it was as much the tires as the faults of the awd system. I don’t know how many crossover and suv vehicles could have gotten out of that situation with all seasons.
this guy is so negative. Anyone that knows anything knows that tires are more important than AWD. I bet those tires are garbage stock tires. You're driving a car with 7-8 clearance and then complaining when you get stuck in deep snow. LOL
Nice video unfairly trashing Mazdas AWD system, which is actually good. Mazdas are great affordable cars, you’re a fool who got yourself stuck. AWD doesn’t mean you get a LSD
I was just going to suggest that. I have been following this car for a little while as I find it intriguing, but it clearly is not a Subaru grade all wheel drive system. Having driven several Subarus, I can attest to their utility in this aspect. I would really like to see one of their vehicles in this type of setting replicated as precisely as possible. Thanks Ryan!
Unfortunately it's basically impossible to repeat this test. I drive in the snow a lot for fun. One thing I have learned from 40 years of driving in Washington State snow -- it is different every time. In fact it can change significantly even in the same day. It can vary from very good to extremely poor traction. The only way to compare two vehicles or different tires in real-world snow is to run them at the same time so the snow conditions are the same.
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson where do you get your info about Subaru? TFL? I believe you would be mistaken with your comment Another cvt comment…..didn’t you forget the current oil consumption also? So many stranded Subarus on the road every day. Ughhh
@@shanesnyder7359 look through his videos because I believe there was a similar test. Subaru performed well as it should. One of the best AWD system there is. 🏆🥇😊
Great video! I remember on this channel, that Ford Explorer Timberline got stuck in deep snow in a similar way. So always get snow tires and bring recovery gear. :)
Really appreciate what you do for us viewers. I’ve had my misadventures too! Eventually it’ll happen to us all. My takeaway???……vehicle u tested is not designed for this stuff. Also, great idea to bring along a manual come along Things I’ve learned to do…..the hard way! Lol, what happened to u? Oh I been there!
A come-along can be useful, but only if you have a cable, chains, or strong rope to extend its reach. Typical inexpensive come-alongs have around 10 feet of cable. This is almost never long enough to reach an anchor point (unless you have a second, un-stuck, vehicle).
Manufacturers ground clearance measurements are almost always questionable. Personally I like the way Subaru does it, since they give the minimum measurement which to me is most useful. A lot of manufacturers love giving the max ground clearance so it sounds more impressive but for anyone that actually goes off road the minimum number is more important. Mazda does build a great looking car but nobody does AWD like Subaru.
There are better AWD systems than Subaru's. They have the best open diff brake vectoring systems, but no brake vectoring can match a mechanical LSD, for example like a Torsen diff. Of course those are heavier and more expensive, so they don't make sense in crossovers...
@@matus201 Torsen is not the best example of lsd, it is limited by its TBR. When it comes to brake vectoring combined with open diffs - not only Subaru makes it great, there are a few other brands.
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson They did have some issues but that was mainly with the 2010-2012 Outback’s. Buy 2013 they had that worked out. I’ve heard of people upgrading their WRXs with bigger turbos and other go fast parts and they seem to not have too many issues with the CVT in the auto WRX. Most of the CVT issues have been with other manufactures.
@@matus201 So the WRX and many of the older Outbacks had a LSD in the rear. The STI has had and LSD front and rear for some years now. Many companies are dumping LSDs for the exact reasons you mentioned. If I was to build a rock crawling type vehicle then I would got for true 4WD with and LSD front and rear. For 99% of the people (like me) that drive on the road in all kinds of weather open diffs with brake vectoring work well and help reduce wight and MPGs.
You said it! 🏆. Subarus are known for their continued reliability and quiet honestly their cvts are not bad, compared to most other cvts in the industry. My wife’s 2015 Honda Civic, transmission went out. We had all the services done, they considered it a catastrophic failure, found nothing wrong with it. At least Honda helped with most repair Every car has its issues
Expected result, I would have truly been surprised if it were easy to get out of that mess. Subaru is considered to have one of the best AWD systems, but results with a Crosstrek would probably be similar on all season tires. The truth is you'd probably be better off with a FWD CX-30 on winter tires vs AWD on all seasons..which really aren't remarkable in any season.
Might be worth carrying a pair of recovery straps and a manual cable puller. Could have looped one strap through the drivers side wheel and the other around a tree. Then use the puller to drag the front end back on the road. Hindsights always 20/20
My wife has the exact same car but with black interior and I put some vredestein quatrac pro tires on. For everyday driving and driving in snow in NE Ohio it’s awesome.
Last year was a lot more snow then usual but this Mazda really struggled in the snow and it wasn’t that high where other efficient AWD SUVs were more capable
Next time the floor mats will work better because of the texture of the bottom this work for us when we got stuck on ice at the crystal mountain resort
@@martinr8278 I drive a 2018 Mazda 3 hatchback fwd and I live in Maine. We get a lot, I mean A LOT of snow here. You will be shocked what the winter tires can do. The right tires and knowing your and your car limitations will help you immensely not have any problem driving in snow.
@@marlonmullon if that’s how you feel, I’m going by what I see right here in the video that’s all. I gotta go with the facts and what he was able and unable to do unfortunately
I almost bought one but instead went for a Subaru Crosstrek. At times I need to plow through a foot of snow, and I know I can trust the Subaru awd, and wasn't sure about the Mazda system. Thanks for showing me that I made the right choice, as I really wanted the turbo, but the awd system was what made me not pull the trigger.
For me it was the same reason, and Subaru has full independent double wishbone rear suspension. The Mazda still uses a twist beam torsion bar for the back, which in my opinion is cheaping out.
I drive my turbo in snow storms as a nurse going house to house in Northern Ontario winters and have never got stuck or scraped the bottom! It's the tires and stupidity that'll get u stuck. Subarus r the ugliest suvs on the road and almost everyone i see driving is over the age of 40 so pick your poison. One thing it does better then anyone tho is handling rough roads. that i will give it all the credit for the smooth ride!
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson the video clearly showed no movement on the back tires. Snow tires were not the answer. The AWD system failed. Just keep this vehicle on a couple inches of snow or on plowed roads…..it’ll perform wonderfully 😉
Excellent choice. I’ve seen those get out of a lot of messes in the winter where most others fail. You have one of the best AWD systems. But don’t take my word just research it. Not sure what raptorsnation4x is talking about because the crosstrek is one of the hottest selling, mostly to late 20-30 year olds. But pick what you choose to see I guess
@@martinr8278 yeah its actually my 4th Subaru. I was hoping to get away from Subaru's and try something different, but there are times I need to get through a foot of snow. My old wrx sometimes I wouldn't chance it, and sometimes got stuck. I'm assuming it should go better this winter, so far I am very happy with it.
Maybe the floor mats will work as track pads? And when your getting in snow they make tire gloves much less bulky than tire chains FYI ..... I have a mazda se cx30 will upgrade to cx30 turbo p+ really like it fits in garage well front doors very good opening in tight spots
Another pointless "lets take a car with all seasons on it and see how stuck we can get it" video. Nobody drives in harsh winter conditions without snow shoes. It's frustrating because I like this vehicle and it would be nuce to see how well it perfoms with snow tires on.
I own this car (2021) and drive in worse conditions (North Idaho) and never got stuck. When winter hit I tried to get it stuck near my house where I could use my truck to get it out and it never got as stuck as in this video. I was able to drive out of every stoppage. The amount of mistakes made in this video does a disservice to the car, it is more capable than is shown, it just wasn't driven properly. I hope people don't use this as a means to decide on purchasing this car as most of what is shown isn't correct. That being said, every vehicle has it's limits so individual knowledge and skill apply, caution is best used in these situations, best to avoid if possible.
The roughest terrain my 2022 CX-30 usually experiences out here in southern Arizona is the supermarket parking lot. 😝 I did take it out into the dessert along some off-road trails once though just for the heck of it.
@@drivingsports I thought so myself. I own a 2021 Crosstrek Limited (without the fancy dual X-Mode), and without Winter tires; and I was shocked how the Mazda was stuck cause I was thinking there would be no way the Subaru would be stuck. I intentionally drive in tricky situations because they are so much joy.
I got my self in some worse situations with my crosstrek, and always get my self out, just turn of traction control if it not going forward or backwards it will go sideways because they can spins all 4 wheels. FYI it will cutdown power at 40K RPM.
So, I dd not understand why you did test it with winter tires? Most people who have decided to get that kind of car use winter tires... there is a huge difference of result of your test... deep snow without winter tires from my point of view is asking to get a problem.
Yes, it would have done better because it’s much more aggressive at shifting power L-R and the system doesn’t cut out after a few minutes like the Mazda.
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson I don't buy your argument for a second. Just as easy to get stuck with a manual transmission car. Most of the cars I've owned were manual transmission cars. Whatever deficiencies there might be, these modern systems more than makeup for any differences. X mode for example.
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson why should I believe you when I've owned a few Subarus and my family as well (Northeast) without issue. Real world experience trumps your opinion. And you said it yourself, it's all about maintenance. As long as you change the CVT fluid, you won't have issues. Same with engine oil, lol! People who buy cars and expect them to go forever without doing maintenance are the culprit. Of course there will be problem models or problem years, same as any other manufacturer out there. I had a 2007 Toyota Camry, and it had the worst oil consumption ever! I know right, precious Toyota and their amazing reliability 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson where do you get your info??? He answered yes the crosstrek would. You must be a lot smarter on Subarus then the experts. Where are you a mechanic at? If that’s partially true you need a career change. I wouldn’t want to work on cars that you think aren’t worth it
Even with the rear spinning, they’re 3 season tires and have no grip. This would have been a most likely better outcome with winter tires :) even though down the mountain, winter tires would be useless lol
I mounted Michelin cross climate 2 tires and have yet to have any issue in snow or mud in Michigan's back country trails and my trips to Tennessee mountains during winter time. The OEM tire are well crap, but not even close to the Michelins.
I'm surprised how unprepared he was. He knew he's gonna go through snow plus it wasn't his first time offroading and still no shovel or some flat wood boards or snow chain in the trunk.
@@drivingsports I must have ffd the video but you're right, I missed that info. I still stand by my statement, you always test the vehicles offroad, you should be better prepared. Read JR's comment.
@@drivingsports Were you not expecting to get stuck in the snow? You have never driven this car so you don't know how good or bad it is offroad either until its too late and wish you had stopped at Walmart for five minutes to pick up a snow shovel and maybe not floored the gas pedal or better yet turned around. It's a compact city SUV so I don't know why you immidialty assume it has an A+ AWD system
Snow tires are not going to get you unstuck from a drift like this. If they had chains, maybe. Snow tires have a softer rubber compound that helps with ice and gives you much more flexibility when it is cold...for me that's less than -25 degrees Celsius. Winter tires wouldn't get you out of that either...they are made to keep you on the road so you don't have to get pushed out of a rut.
That's the like the biggest fear is getting stuck in snow up the mountain.....You gotta be prepared bring all the tolls you need just in this type of situation.
I got stuck real bad once while camping in a remote forestry area. 4x4 and mud tires weren't enough that day. I had to wait many hours until a guy with a winch happened to drive by. It was the only vehicle I saw that entire weekend, and I'm lucky he was prepared when I wasn't. Traction boards and a shovel permanently live under the back seat since then
Scary stuff
A winch can be a game changer.
You know your in trouble when you have off-road tires and a true 4 wheel drive and you get stuck. I watch Matt’s Off-road towing and I see how useful having a winch is. Traction boards and a shovel are great things to carry.
Ain't that a real education.....
@@mikefoehr235 Only if there is something to anchor to... I was in the desert last weekend and a winch would have been useless. Kinetic rope, traction boards and a shovel. And don't go alone.
Sorry I haven’t finished watching the whole video yet I just couldn’t wait to give everyone an extremely useful tip! A tip that should always work no matter the type of terrain your stuck in and it’s something that pretty much all cars have and it’s something that you first step on each time you get into your car…..It’s something that can save your day or maybe even save your life…so here it comes…in one…two….three….your car’s FLOOR MATS!!!!
Before you start looking for sticks and twigs and rocks and or people, look in your car for those handy dandy mats and take them out and then put them under the driven wheels or in awd/4wd vehicles the wheels with better chances of getting traction and ultimately getting you unstuck…I had a stranger help me one time when I was stuck in snow and to my embarrassment he was able to very quickly and very easily get my car unstuck, he just simply pulled my cars floor mats and placed them under the front wheels (fwd car) and told me to drive forward and sure enough my front wheels were gripping the floor mats really good and so, short story long…..I was stuck no more!!! So much for those hours of brainstorming different things I could try to get my car unstuck when the answer was right under my nose or should I say, right under my feet….
Nice Tip Sire!
take the seat belt out of the car and put it over your shoulder (like a backpack) and pull the car as if you were a horse harnessed to a cart. I think the two guys would have taken the car out immediately.
This car is owned by Mazda and unless they loaned this one out for several days, there is probably another journo waiting to review it and they'd rather not have chewed up floor mats😂
@@jbm0866 I rather have to buy new floor mats then having to pay for a tow truck to come rescue me which I imagine would be more expensive then 2 Mats, but i see what you mean that would be pretty funny to see their faces when they first get into the vehicle and come upon some nasty ass shredded mangled looking front mats….
You’re out of your mind. Ruin my beautiful, clean, plush floor mats?? No way in Hell. I would rather wait until Spring… 😅
The problem was you treated it like it was tracked tank when it didn't even have 3 peak snow rated tires. Those are simple all weather tires. Plus you treated the car like it didn't belong to you, which it didn't.
There was plenty of power in the rear you had 0 traction . Proper tires would have made a bit of difference . Also you were high centered . This is not a matter of not having torque . You could have a 4 wheel locker with 1000 ftlbs of torque ,but stuck in a rut uphill on ice with 0 traction torque is 0 regardless of the powertrain . The video clearly shows the awd spinning the rear wheel that shows it was doing its job well
The problem isnt the car.......no sane person takes a compact cuv up in the mountains with 2 feet of snow in the odd spot with 7 inches of ground clearance and Turanza all season tires. Stop complaining how bad the awd system is. When all 4 wheels are spinning, its the tires not the awd system. You might as well be driving on rims up there. And as far as the on road driving characteristics of the car go.....its the champ in its class. Nothing even comes close. If you want something more, pony up and buy a Macan........horrible review and super unfair to Mazda and to the value of this vehicle.
I got this car and have driven it on the snow for months as long as you know what you are doing you shouldn’t get stranded but hey ig
Agreed, my mother bought one brand new for a very reasonable price from the dealership, and she loves how that car drives in bad conditions. It doesn't slide too much because it only weighs 3300 pounds
The cx30 is a champ in every category except one......that cladding is hideous!😂🤣
I am going to take the plastic off and spray it with bed liner. @@Painting_Inspiration
Sure we all find ourselves in a situations we didn't intend to be in, this review shows how the vehicle reacts in such situation. Really proved it is on road bias crossover where a Subaru is more skewed off-road, what some of us wanted to see in a test.
"The dampers soaked up the bump nicely" as he flies out of the seat.
I am convinced
This guy dislikes Mazda!
Been watching for years and I am now convinced.
7:30
He loves Subarus
pretty biased and I dont like that, hes bagging on the mazda all video you can tell he's not having fun driving this awesome vehicle/
You have done a mistake, Ryan. Right after vehicle stops moving you need to stop spinning wheels and deflate all tires to half a regular pressure(15-17psi). Often only this will suffice and car would move again. If that isnt enough then someone needs to push from behind and finally you always have at least 4 floor mats in your car, use them as traction pads. Digging snow and ice with bare hands isnt good for your body at all, but I hope you will be fine.
Better idea.......Either install Blizzaks or don't go..............Paul
@Paul Holterhaus He tests cars as they come. To not give an unfair advantage. He tests so many cars. Would you want him to put snow tires on every tester car he gets? I like these real world tests. This guy has a ton of experience and does this for a living. Your not telling him anything he doesn't already know.
His first mistake was overestimating his knowledge & capabilities.
All season tires do not work in deeper, especially wet, snow. The treads fill up with snow, packs solid and turns them into slicks. My wife has a 2021 CX-30 N/A and AWD. I fitted the car with 4 Michelin X-Ice snow tires. Last winter in New England that car never failed to go anywhere I pointed it, including some pretty deep snow and through snowbanks. It performed as well as the 2018 Outback she had previously. Dropping 1 wheel into a hole would likely stop most crossovers, including the Outback. Snow tires, without a doubt would have made all the difference.
here is but summer tires
@@standa4210 Not summer but all seasons.
Not so sure. The rear tires didn’t even spin. There was no AWD transfer. It just appeared to fail. I’m not so sure that the outback or a toyota would have a similar fail
@@martinr8278 They did spin, watch the very beginning, the first attempts of trying to get out. Later on the system got overheated and cut the rear axle power.
I hate to say it because of all the pain you went through, but this was my favorite video of yours yet!
I am not shocked at all.
Most FWD based crossovers would have performed the same.
Especially when they are clearly road-focused.
@@millerliteguruUnless they were the earlier ones with CVTs, and couldn't transfer enough torque to the drivetrain to climb a molehill.
They finally figured out how to use a CVT and still put some torque down, but there for a while they completely ruined their off-road ability.
I have a 2022 CX30. Glad I watched this! Thanks.
seriously the way you filmed this is fantastic. especially the outside/filming of the vehicle rolling up and down the road. is really great. I do like to see the overall vehicle in motion. the germans are the Top in exterior design. this Mazda looks great but like all Japanese automotive Companies. their tire specs are always narrow no matter the diameter of the wheels. still, tire specs are slim, unlike the Germans. their Tires Specs are wide. and that does change a lot. the overall character of the Vehicle. I have to add. I think if you have dedicated snow tires. probably it will be a different experience.
MASSIVE difference with Blizzaks.........Whole different Vehicle............Paul..........I once drove My Blizzak equiped Outback thru a continual 18" snow with front bumper acting as snow plow...............Paul
Actually surprised how well it did. I would never take it into that snow, but glad to know what's possible if ever forced to on all-season tires.
I’m looking at one of these tomorrow with the NA 2.5 liter and AWD for $24k. I need it for a new job I’m taking that extends up into the Sierra Nevada mountains in California so the AWD is a must. Looking forward to taking it for a test drive. We have a 2019 a CX9 touring and it’s been a great vehicle so far!
I love my 2024 mazda cx 30 carbon turbo. I have heavy duty tires on it non stock, and its freaking awesome. The inside of the car is so premium and this car is definitely my go to. My wife has a subaru 2024 wilderness crosstrek and I think they are both on par.
It's no joke to be in this situation but this was fun to watch!
Make more videos like this 👍
Another great review. Been watching your channel for about 2 yrs and learned so much from your very informative videos. My next vehicle will be an Outback Wilderness for soft roading, nothing crazy, plus it will be easy for my wife to drive to and from work in inclement weather.
Good luck with their cvt mate...
And the notorious subie head gasket garbage
Not sure why you are blaming the car? You said yourself if you go off track, you are dead in the water, so what do you do? Exactly what you said not too. I think you are asking the vehicle to do things that other vehicles in this class wouldn’t be able to do either. You set yourself and the Mazda up to fail.
I found it to be extremely interesting to see how this all-wheel drive transmission dealt with some of the stresses of off-road.
"He chose poorly..." Mazda's FWD->AWD System seems to be "gender-confused"! ...and worthless.
@@drteknical6571 When is this said?
Thanks for the honest video, showing you got stuck. The worst time I got stuck in snow with my FWD Mazda 3 on winter tires, I used the jack to lift the front wheel that was spinning the most to put some big pieces of wood underneath. Traction-aids (which I always keep in the trunk in the winter) were not sufficient in this case.
with that much snow and those air temps with those tires what did you expect?
Interesting thing is that Mazda uses the same AWD system as Toyota GR Corolla and GR Yaris but with higher rear overdrive ratio (1%).
That means this car for offroad is a shit?
@@Djsore22 This means that it is all about the software (which of course is different).
@@Djsore22 This means that is all summer tires
where did you get this info that Mazda and Toyota uses the same AWD system?
@@zero7523 Technical specs and interviews with Dave Coleman. It's ITCC system by JTEKT (but with standard, not extented clutch-pack).
I was so confused when I saw the snow seeing as it's supposed to be 84 tomorrow in the Seattle area. 😂
hat summer tires video is old
This guy would drive a crazy person nuts. No snow tires on this test vehicle, Ryan? You have no cred.
Filmed 6 months ago?! 😳 I knew you were a little behind in stuff, but did not expect it to be that old. I would have been surprised if this was done in September, but wow! Super surprised. You were far more "adventurous" than I would have been in that car running w/out recovery gear or a back up vehicle. That single track road you took more spirited in that vehicle than I would have as well. lol I mean, that is 4Runner territory as far as I am concerned. Nothing like an AWD system that fails when you really need it. lol Big lessons learned/re-learned for you here. Always be prepared. Glad you had people coming and going that could find and help you in a timely manner. When I run solo(with gear)I am not always in the most traveled areas. But I def. try to be. (phone and CB is part of my gear)
Nice see your dad by your side and keeping in calm. A real life driving problem vídeo.
What?
Is you speak English?
My experience on other vehicles is that turning off traction control helps when you'r taking off in deep snow. They should allow it to be disabled in this vehicle.
😂😂
Man you're the only one who can think of using a Cx30 with less than 7 inches of ground clearance in 1ft deep snow situations. Mazda's AWD has nothing to do with getting out of that snow. From what I saw your awd system did work but it didn't send traction to the rear wheels because the tires hadn't detected traction (even with 3 guys in trunk) that's because the front stall was so deep that the Cx30 kept sending all its power to the front. remember it's not 4x4. Next time don't go too deep into a crossover that's a multi-terrain but not an all- terrain.
Use the rubber matts
under the wheels, and i think the screw in thing is with the spare tire kit.
I’d say it was as much the tires as the faults of the awd system. I don’t know how many crossover and suv vehicles could have gotten out of that situation with all seasons.
Yea the awd on this is fine.
Mazda should sue this guy for misrepresentation of this cx30 he's phonier than a 3 dollar bill😅
Tires, tires, tires. ❄️
this guy is so negative. Anyone that knows anything knows that tires are more important than AWD. I bet those tires are garbage stock tires. You're driving a car with 7-8 clearance and then complaining when you get stuck in deep snow. LOL
Thanks for upload, was thinking of buying one.
Nice video unfairly trashing Mazdas AWD system, which is actually good. Mazdas are great affordable cars, you’re a fool who got yourself stuck. AWD doesn’t mean you get a LSD
Can u do this test with subaru and other awd cars? This should be your go to test from now on lol
I was just going to suggest that. I have been following this car for a little while as I find it intriguing, but it clearly is not a Subaru grade all wheel drive system. Having driven several Subarus, I can attest to their utility in this aspect. I would really like to see one of their vehicles in this type of setting replicated as precisely as possible. Thanks Ryan!
Unfortunately it's basically impossible to repeat this test. I drive in the snow a lot for fun. One thing I have learned from 40 years of driving in Washington State snow -- it is different every time. In fact it can change significantly even in the same day. It can vary from very good to extremely poor traction. The only way to compare two vehicles or different tires in real-world snow is to run them at the same time so the snow conditions are the same.
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson where do you get your info about Subaru? TFL? I believe you would be mistaken with your comment Another cvt comment…..didn’t you forget the current oil consumption also? So many stranded Subarus on the road every day. Ughhh
@@shanesnyder7359 look through his videos because I believe there was a similar test. Subaru performed well as it should. One of the best AWD system there is. 🏆🥇😊
This guy probably thinks “it’s just a rebadged ford” even though ford hasn’t touched a Mazda since 2015💀
What tires is he using? Is it the stock tire?
Great video! I remember on this channel, that Ford Explorer Timberline got stuck in deep snow in a similar way. So always get snow tires and bring recovery gear. :)
I think AWD Subaru system is better as per ruclips.net/video/SsEFOH7KP-Q/видео.html&ab_channel=CarExpert
Really appreciate what you do for us viewers. I’ve had my misadventures too! Eventually it’ll happen to us all. My takeaway???……vehicle u tested is not designed for this stuff. Also, great idea to bring along a manual come along Things I’ve learned to do…..the hard way! Lol, what happened to u? Oh I been there!
A come-along can be useful, but only if you have a cable, chains, or strong rope to extend its reach. Typical inexpensive come-alongs have around 10 feet of cable. This is almost never long enough to reach an anchor point (unless you have a second, un-stuck, vehicle).
I am sure that turning the "traction control off', would have helped a bunch.
Apparently the engine doesn't give you full power until broken in which is 3 tanks of premium gas. And then you only get 250 with premium.
You can turn the floor shifter into a straight 6 manual instead of using the paddles. I much prefer that (see the M-D label).
They should have tried using the floor mats in the trunk 😂
Committed to your craft. Love it thx for the content
Manufacturers ground clearance measurements are almost always questionable. Personally I like the way Subaru does it, since they give the minimum measurement which to me is most useful. A lot of manufacturers love giving the max ground clearance so it sounds more impressive but for anyone that actually goes off road the minimum number is more important. Mazda does build a great looking car but nobody does AWD like Subaru.
There are better AWD systems than Subaru's. They have the best open diff brake vectoring systems, but no brake vectoring can match a mechanical LSD, for example like a Torsen diff. Of course those are heavier and more expensive, so they don't make sense in crossovers...
@@matus201 Torsen is not the best example of lsd, it is limited by its TBR. When it comes to brake vectoring combined with open diffs - not only Subaru makes it great, there are a few other brands.
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson They did have some issues but that was mainly with the 2010-2012 Outback’s. Buy 2013 they had that worked out. I’ve heard of people upgrading their WRXs with bigger turbos and other go fast parts and they seem to not have too many issues with the CVT in the auto WRX. Most of the CVT issues have been with other manufactures.
@@matus201 So the WRX and many of the older Outbacks had a LSD in the rear. The STI has had and LSD front and rear for some years now. Many companies are dumping LSDs for the exact reasons you mentioned. If I was to build a rock crawling type vehicle then I would got for true 4WD with and LSD front and rear. For 99% of the people (like me) that drive on the road in all kinds of weather open diffs with brake vectoring work well and help reduce wight and MPGs.
You said it! 🏆. Subarus are known for their continued reliability and quiet honestly their cvts are not bad, compared to most other cvts in the industry. My wife’s 2015 Honda Civic, transmission went out. We had all the services done, they considered it a catastrophic failure, found nothing wrong with it. At least Honda helped with most repair Every car has its issues
Glad that you made it out safe and sound! Thanks for the very realistic review of the CX 30 and more power!
its cool seeing a city car being put to offroad stress
Can’t wait for the 2023 CX-50 vs. 2023 Outback 😬
I own the 2021 cx30 and it's great in the snow in my opinion I think that was on you not the car
He just likes Subarus. Other reviewers have praised the mazda from what I've seen.
Great video!
Expected result, I would have truly been surprised if it were easy to get out of that mess. Subaru is considered to have one of the best AWD systems, but results with a Crosstrek would probably be similar on all season tires. The truth is you'd probably be better off with a FWD CX-30 on winter tires vs AWD on all seasons..which really aren't remarkable in any season.
Might be worth carrying a pair of recovery straps and a manual cable puller. Could have looped one strap through the drivers side wheel and the other around a tree. Then use the puller to drag the front end back on the road. Hindsights always 20/20
Were you getting an indication on the dash that AWD had failed? That is concerning if it doesn't notify the driver of that issue.
It was mentioned in the video. I noted the on-screen error (that wasn't exactly specific.)
@@drivingsports My apologies. I missed it. Thanks for good reviews.
It's a self protection . It's monitoring temperature of the clutch disks . It will take the awd off line to protect them from damage
Your channel is interesting, Ryan. Not only are you cheesy but you make watching cheesiness enjoyable
You could try the Jack to jack up the front wheels and put the floor carpets under to get tractions..
I used this method once to get out of a situation where I got stuck in the snow. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of this solution.
Pushing stuck vehicle on snow can be rather dangerous, I hurt myself last year as something released in my upper back, so I was weak for a few weeks.
On the Eastcoast we have some brutal weather. Your video was very helpful and interesting. Always love your videos. Thank you
Why are you complaining about the 0-60 thats plenty of fast anything under 8 secs is more than enough
Only a fool would take low profile all season touring tires into a snow and ice off road .
My wife has the exact same car but with black interior and I put some vredestein quatrac pro tires on. For everyday driving and driving in snow in NE Ohio it’s awesome.
Last year was a lot more snow then usual but this Mazda really struggled in the snow and it wasn’t that high where other efficient AWD SUVs were more capable
@@martinr8278 stock tires?
@@Kman09JGC stock tires on Mazda?? Yes. But no movement on rear tires. AWD system couldn’t handle it, it just failed
@@martinr8278 hmmm I had no issues and drive through some pretty good snow. But the stock tires are absolutely horrible in all conditions
@@Kman09JGC that’s a fair assessment
Next time the floor mats will work better because of the texture of the bottom this work for us when we got stuck on ice at the crystal mountain resort
Deep snow with the wrong tires, just asking to be stuck.
Throw some good winter tires on this and it will be more than enough.
exactly
It’ll still struggle. There was no rear tire movement. AWD just failed. That’s terrible for Mazda
@@martinr8278 I drive a 2018 Mazda 3 hatchback fwd and I live in Maine. We get a lot, I mean A LOT of snow here. You will be shocked what the winter tires can do. The right tires and knowing your and your car limitations will help you immensely not have any problem driving in snow.
@@marlonmullon if that’s how you feel, I’m going by what I see right here in the video that’s all. I gotta go with the facts and what he was able and unable to do unfortunately
Great video. Hope your dad was not freezing too much!
I almost bought one but instead went for a Subaru Crosstrek. At times I need to plow through a foot of snow, and I know I can trust the Subaru awd, and wasn't sure about the Mazda system. Thanks for showing me that I made the right choice, as I really wanted the turbo, but the awd system was what made me not pull the trigger.
For me it was the same reason, and Subaru has full independent double wishbone rear suspension. The Mazda still uses a twist beam torsion bar for the back, which in my opinion is cheaping out.
I drive my turbo in snow storms as a nurse going house to house in Northern Ontario winters and have never got stuck or scraped the bottom! It's the tires and stupidity that'll get u stuck. Subarus r the ugliest suvs on the road and almost everyone i see driving is over the age of 40 so pick your poison. One thing it does better then anyone tho is handling rough roads. that i will give it all the credit for the smooth ride!
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson the video clearly showed no movement on the back tires. Snow tires were not the answer. The AWD system failed. Just keep this vehicle on a couple inches of snow or on plowed roads…..it’ll perform wonderfully 😉
Excellent choice. I’ve seen those get out of a lot of messes in the winter where most others fail. You have one of the best AWD systems. But don’t take my word just research it. Not sure what raptorsnation4x is talking about because the crosstrek is one of the hottest selling, mostly to late 20-30 year olds. But pick what you choose to see I guess
@@martinr8278 yeah its actually my 4th Subaru. I was hoping to get away from Subaru's and try something different, but there are times I need to get through a foot of snow. My old wrx sometimes I wouldn't chance it, and sometimes got stuck. I'm assuming it should go better this winter, so far I am very happy with it.
Maybe the floor mats will work as track pads? And when your getting in snow they make tire gloves much less bulky than tire chains FYI ..... I have a mazda se cx30 will upgrade to cx30 turbo p+ really like it fits in garage well front doors very good opening in tight spots
Could u have used the floor mats for traction?
Another pointless "lets take a car with all seasons on it and see how stuck we can get it" video.
Nobody drives in harsh winter conditions without snow shoes. It's frustrating because I like this vehicle and it would be nuce to see how well it perfoms with snow tires on.
So you did a video where 75% of it was in snow with all seasons?
I own this car (2021) and drive in worse conditions (North Idaho) and never got stuck. When winter hit I tried to get it stuck near my house where I could use my truck to get it out and it never got as stuck as in this video. I was able to drive out of every stoppage. The amount of mistakes made in this video does a disservice to the car, it is more capable than is shown, it just wasn't driven properly. I hope people don't use this as a means to decide on purchasing this car as most of what is shown isn't correct. That being said, every vehicle has it's limits so individual knowledge and skill apply, caution is best used in these situations, best to avoid if possible.
The roughest terrain my 2022 CX-30 usually experiences out here in southern Arizona is the supermarket parking lot. 😝 I did take it out into the dessert along some off-road trails once though just for the heck of it.
Impressive for the price and what it's designed for.
Best quote: Luckily I brought my dad with me, the way we always want to use our dads. 🤣
Maybe using the floor mats to place under the tires to get traction could have helped?
Do you think if a Subaru Crosstrek was stuck in the same situation... Would the results any different?
It was all about tires. No traction, you are stuck
Yes. It wouldn’t have squandered grip like the Mazda. We have lots of videos of Subarus doing better in similar situations.
@@drivingsports I thought so myself. I own a 2021 Crosstrek Limited (without the fancy dual X-Mode), and without Winter tires; and I was shocked how the Mazda was stuck cause I was thinking there would be no way the Subaru would be stuck. I intentionally drive in tricky situations because they are so much joy.
I got my self in some worse situations with my crosstrek, and always get my self out, just turn of traction control if it not going forward or backwards it will go sideways because they can spins all 4 wheels. FYI it will cutdown power at 40K RPM.
So, I dd not understand why you did test it with winter tires? Most people who have decided to get that kind of car use winter tires... there is a huge difference of result of your test... deep snow without winter tires from my point of view is asking to get a problem.
Because there was no chance of snow. This was filmed very late in the spring and it should have been long-gone.
Should of use floor mat under the wheels
Well, this is one of my worst nightmares. Thankfully, you weren't alone, at night. :)
What’s better this or Crosstrek?
Mazda watching this like 😳👀😬
Do these cars even have recovery points that can be added to it somehow?
No. Just a screw-in towing receiver.
Do you think your wife's crosstrek sport would do better in that exact situation? I'm asking because I have a Crosstrek limited. Thanks
Yes, it would have done better because it’s much more aggressive at shifting power L-R and the system doesn’t cut out after a few minutes like the Mazda.
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson I don't buy your argument for a second. Just as easy to get stuck with a manual transmission car. Most of the cars I've owned were manual transmission cars. Whatever deficiencies there might be, these modern systems more than makeup for any differences. X mode for example.
@@drivingsports Thanks for the reply! Glad I bought a crosstrek 😎
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson why should I believe you when I've owned a few Subarus and my family as well (Northeast) without issue. Real world experience trumps your opinion. And you said it yourself, it's all about maintenance. As long as you change the CVT fluid, you won't have issues. Same with engine oil, lol! People who buy cars and expect them to go forever without doing maintenance are the culprit. Of course there will be problem models or problem years, same as any other manufacturer out there. I had a 2007 Toyota Camry, and it had the worst oil consumption ever! I know right, precious Toyota and their amazing reliability 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Maurice Lamont-Jackson where do you get your info??? He answered yes the crosstrek would. You must be a lot smarter on Subarus then the experts. Where are you a mechanic at? If that’s partially true you need a career change. I wouldn’t want to work on cars that you think aren’t worth it
Should have released some air from tires.
20:54 "be careful these sticks are super pokey". 🧐 🤣
I’ve heard Mazda awd system wasn’t good now I can see that !
Even with the rear spinning, they’re 3 season tires and have no grip. This would have been a most likely better outcome with winter tires :) even though down the mountain, winter tires would be useless lol
What is the color of this cx-30?
I had to stop the video to get popcorn.
I mounted Michelin cross climate 2 tires and have yet to have any issue in snow or mud in Michigan's back country trails and my trips to Tennessee mountains during winter time. The OEM tire are well crap, but not even close to the Michelins.
I'm surprised how unprepared he was. He knew he's gonna go through snow plus it wasn't his first time offroading and still no shovel or some flat wood boards or snow chain in the trunk.
The first half of the video was me basically saying that I wasn't expecting any badf weather (or snow) -- how did you miss that?!
@@drivingsports I must have ffd the video but you're right, I missed that info. I still stand by my statement, you always test the vehicles offroad, you should be better prepared. Read JR's comment.
@@drivingsports Were you not expecting to get stuck in the snow? You have never driven this car so you don't know how good or bad it is offroad either until its too late and wish you had stopped at Walmart for five minutes to pick up a snow shovel and maybe not floored the gas pedal or better yet turned around. It's a compact city SUV so I don't know why you immidialty assume it has an A+ AWD system
Snow tires are not going to get you unstuck from a drift like this. If they had chains, maybe. Snow tires have a softer rubber compound that helps with ice and gives you much more flexibility when it is cold...for me that's less than -25 degrees Celsius. Winter tires wouldn't get you out of that either...they are made to keep you on the road so you don't have to get pushed out of a rut.
It would have done fine if the right tire didn't go into a ditch.
That's the like the biggest fear is getting stuck in snow up the mountain.....You gotta be prepared bring all the tolls you need just in this type of situation.
“I’m not seeing bouncing!!” 😅🤣💀
why didn't you break some branches off with the pine needles still attached? that would have worked much better than just sticks.
Good to see someone is making a WRX hatch.
Would love to see the Trailblazer Active trim AWD. Perform this test.
I’m planning on getting one next month.
Honestly...this was hilarious lol. Sorry but it made for good entertainment! 😁
Thanks for watching!