The Sony a7sIII .... Sucks for Photography?
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2021
- The Sony A7siii is a beast of a hybrid photo and video camera. But is it any good for photography? In this video, we put it to the test to see if its good... or bad for photography.
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What’s the biggest you’ve printed one of your photos?
24x36 is the max I've printed,
I shoot with Canon 5D mark iv, and planning to switch to Sony.
Was considering Sony a7r iii but not sure if thats worth buying in 2021?
I actually think a used a7riii is a crazy good value in 2021
Once printed a billboard 👀 and that was on an A73 haha
@@kylemeshna yeah, this makes a lot more sense! thanks man
Haven’t printed one yet lol but I will now cheers man 😁
Great video bro! I've been testing out the A7Siii on some photography sessions and I'm with you, it's good enough for photography. The cropping was my worry too but when I used it in street photography session with an 85mm, it worked well for me.
Totally agree Man! I think it kinda forces you to be a bit more purposeful with your composition and focal length choice… which one could argue makes you a better photographer as well
Dude, this is such solid review. As someone who just got the A7SIII and takes WAY more photos.. this was super helpful.
Thanks a ton man! Really appreciate it.
Thank you for making this video. Clear, concise, and practical real world examples. Cheers!
Cheers fam!
Awesome video man, thanks for the demos!
Thanks Ryan!
I've had a Canon EOS R (30mp) since late 2019. I love most of the photographs and video that come out of the EOS R except in certain low light situations, and I don't like the crop in 4K. I've owned the Sony a7siii (12mp) for about a month now, which I absolutely bought for both video and stills. I just got through testing both cameras side-by-side for low light, resolution, and color. First I was surprised at how well the EOS R did in low light compared to the a7siii... until you hit those really high ISOs. Once you hit the high ISOs all those extra megapixels mean nothing! The a7siii had similar or better detail as the EOS R in high ISOs because the EOS R has higher noise in low light (obliterating detail). In good light with my Aputure c300d II at around 50% with a 30" Glow Easy Dome/Dish on it, both cameras did stunningly well. The EOS R does out-resolve the a7siii when you pixel peep at tiny eyelashes and such, but I was STUNNED at how close the 12mp a7siii looked. It's a fantastic hybrid camera for general photos and video as long as you don't need to crop much. Last thing, I'm still learning how to best set up the a7siii for color, but I'm already getting more accurate (to my eyes) color from it, than I got from the EOS R, which does a fine job itself. Oh, last last thing, the menus were easy to learn. I just had to watch a few good youtube tutorials. For now I'm keeping both cameras. I still want the extra megapixels for certain photo work including studio photos. The only thing keeping me from switching totally to Sony now is that huge price tag on the a1. I'd love to see an a74 with 30 megapixels at a reasonable price so that I could switch to a single system.
Duuudddeee. Your camera raw file enhance tip saved me. I have 3 images in an online sale that were only 13mb or so and camera raw enhance got them to easily print at up to 40x50
Oh heck yes! So stoked to hear that!
Bro, your presentation is awesome! Keep rocking similar kind of videos.
Really appreciate it man!
Finally someone made a video on this. I was wondering why people kept saying the a7siii wasn't good for photo and they are so wrong I print 20 by 30 photos and it looks great and that's all you need. I bought 2 a7siii :)
Definitely all you need! Heck yeah man! Glad you’re loving them
I definitely agree...I used to have the original A7S and it had great image quality especially in low light compared to my A7R II, it was cleaner, sharper less noise. Of course the A7R II was the king then of image quality and resolution. My point the A7S was still good.
People are fixated again on megapixel counts...back in 2004-2005 I saw pro photographers with their big pro cam bodies like a Nikon D2 or something it only had 12MP and not that great iso range.
100% agree!
It's not a camera that gives you much latitude for cropping, but there is some.
Damn you bought 2?
Great stuff Kyle, thanks for this. I have a Sony a7siii so this is really good to know :)
Stoked you found it helpful!
Great video brotha 🔥🔥🔥 love how you broke it down definitely gave me more confidence in my A7SIII
Stoked you found it useful! I think you should be more than confident in the a7siii for sure. How are you liking it so far?
@@kylemeshna I love it brotha I’ve been using the fx6 as well for my job ( I shoot professional soccer ) and now I want one of those too lmfao 😂
@@peopleruineverything3998 fx6 looks so dang rad tbh
Brilliant that cameras is incredible and your print is super dope man 👌🏼
Thanks for sharing your take on this Kyle! Much appreciated the fresh take and proving that it can be more than a glorified thumbnail maker for photo use 😉
When you know they made it to the end of the vid 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Great video and comparison for ppl who cant decide which one to pick.
Can you share some raw sample images if possible
Sick video man. Keep it coming.
Thanks Keith!
Kyle, you absolutely killed it on this one. Most people have gotten into this huge megapixel war and it is unfounded most of the time. 12mp is more than enough for most people. You just showed the size of a ton of Doctor's and Dentist office sized prints in your last example. The Nikon D700 had 12mp and it is still used today and it produces beautiful images. The Nikon D4, D4s, have 16mp, the Nikon D5 and D6 are around 20 megapixels and you have professional sports shooters, who still use them.
Most people don't even print, they post on the web. If you are a wildlife shooter, or shooting planes and jets and you crop a lot, then your image if you don't have long glass will fall apart. How many people go to their doctors, Hospitals and dentist's office look at the large photos and say well that's crappy. You look at the larger image overall, but if you did look closely and are a pixel peeper you can see the problems, but most don't. The big thing with the cameras that I mentioned is the pixels on the sensor are actually larger and are able to bring in much more light because of it, so the photos when the exposure correct gather much more light.
This is why Sony did this for videography and the A7SIII does so well in low light Videography and low light Photography. I own the A7SIII, A9, A7RIII and the A7IV, so yes, I know how good the A7SIII is for photos, it is magnificent. Thank you for doing this Kyle because it needs to be done and said more often. I challenge any of you to take the A7SIII out at night for photography with a 1.4 aperture lens and see how low your iso will be by comparison to the other cameras that I have and how much cleaner some of your images can be in some cases better than the cameras that I already mentioned. Those larger megapixel cameras do have their purpose, but for a lot of people they are unneeded.
couldn't have said it better myself.
I use my a7s3 more than my OG a7r3.
Other reasons for it are the virtually non existent rolling shutter. Ability to shoot fast pace images in silent mode without any distortion, no banding using silent shooting with artificial lighting, buffer never fills, significantly smaller files sizes and the list goes on
Agreed on all of those for sure! It also makes for some really incredible time lapses that dont destroy your computer trying to process haha
How’s the noise compared with a7r3?
@@gimaru1 much much better on the a7siii. Especially at the higher end. the image cleans up a ton at 12800, so you can basically see in the dark.
Can you tell me why there's no banding in artificial lighting? :)
@@maxedel2180 There's an anti-flicker setting that Detects flickering/blinking from artificial light sources and times the shooting of images to moments when flickering will have less of an impact.
It's pretty rad.
Solid tips and great print shop 🤙🏻
Stoked to hear it man! NM Prints is the best for sure
Amazing review, definitely gives me the green light to shoot pics with this beast of a camera. Ps: billboards actually don’t require very high quality images, simply because we view them from such a distance the prints they use are fairly low resolution.
Great video, do you think it could be used for printing wedding books or magazines?
I got my a7siii on it’s way! Can’t wait for it to arrive
A7siii arrival day is arguably the best day of the year. Stoked for you! What are you most hyped to shoot first?
Great video man, thanks!
This is a great video 🤜
Great review
Great video man, so much value! A few months back I was afraid to use my A7siii for photography projects, but I’ve found it does a good enough job for social media, and this video eliminated any doubts I had about printing shots taken on it. The inability to crop in is the only downside, but it has forced me to get the frame right in camera which is good practice. Have you found a way to preview the files on mac before loading them into LR or PS?
Yeah exactly, I think you just need to be a lot more intentional with your framing in camera... which does lead to me bringing more lenses than I'd like to sometimes lol.
As for the previewing files on a Mac. I'm so glad someone else is having this issue too haha! I've emailed both Sony and Apple customer support multiple times trying to get an answer, but no luck yet. My latest attempt at solving is actually to use Adobe DNG converter to convert them all to DNG. I know there's some drawbacks to this, but it does work and I've yet to notice an issue quality wise.
@@kylemeshna hopefully we get an update that allows us to preview soon! It would definitely help my work flow
@@graysonking6093 A7siii is actually listed as compatible on the Apple support page now... I'm going to update now and report back
support.apple.com/en-us/HT211241
@@graysonking6093 Got my hopes up too soon... Doesn't seem to have solved the problem.
Great Video. Do you mind sharing exactly which spot is this in the picture...close to Golden Gate.
Good info. I shot for many years with a Nikon D200(10mp). Had several magazine covers with it. Lots of editorial work. The resolution was never a problem. Portraits with 60mp aren't going to make a lot of friends.
Lol so true. Every millimeter of those crows feet showing through
@@kylemeshna A7SIII perfect for those mother of the bride shots. She'll think you're a genius.
I used a 12mp Nikon for years and routinely printed 24”x36” and larger. I have even printed a 44”x 60” that looks just fine at normal viewing distance. Most of what I do now does not get printed at all. 12mp is just fine, you just don’t have the cropping flexibility that you have with 24mp.
Many how says 12 mega pixel or 24 mega pixels these days are not enough. do not know about prints or format at all ! Great review 😎😎
I just bought a sony a7siii and I'm worried that it generates a lot of moiré, aliasing in video and photo. I come from Fujifilm and this has never happened to me. Have you had this problem and/or have you found a solution? Thank you for sharing so much knowledge in your videos!
Here because of slow growth's slack community....your video is dope man! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks a ton!
My fancy photo printer can make up to 13" x 19". At 300 dpi, you can make 20" x 30" prints from a 12 MP sensor. So, 12 MP is plenty of resolution as long as you're not cropping significantly. However, that is a real issue for me doing wildlife.
Man I want a Sony A7siii so bad 😎 great video dude!
I personally like how it forces you to be more intentional and plan your shot so you dont have to crop.
Absolutely agree. The only time I've really felt the need to do aggressive cropping is for wildlife.
Hey! what colour profile did you shoot those photographs in for the sony a7siii they look good! Do you you use log for photo?
Standard for photos! Log only for video
I’ve seen some amazing images from this camera from other photographers. I was blown away.
Absolutely awesome camera for sure!
Awesome video dude! For 90% of user I think 12mp is more than enough 🙌🏻 Now I just need another print of yours for my house haha
Thanks man! Definitely agree that its enough for most people... and can absolutely get you set up with a print once you get settled back in the ABQ
Resolution of more pixels is just hype!!! I started in 2014 with original A7s because it was like night vision, sky full of stars with a very bright ground at the time f/4 lenses. Capturing stars is the real test of lenses for clarity, sharpness, wide angle pincushion distortion and RESOLUTION! High Pixel numbers YES are better for cropping, but how much cropping is done? I now own the A7Siii (because they stopped making the Sii) and the 1224 f/2.8, 20 f/1.8 and 24 f/1.4. The detail of the lenses and the A7SM3 of the Milky Way and ground beach/driftwood at +300x zoom bark groves are really sharp and now extra stars are seen in the dark horse nebula dark section, the milky path from horizon to horizon stars on each side are like led light stars that are concentrated and on the path are the faraway stars like stepping stones scattered so as not to fall into the deep darkness. The stitching of frames of a panorama can now be done even in Ps/Lr/ON1 RAW without interruption between using 15 degrees between shots. The main PLUS today is Topaz Gigapixel getting a 300MP image to print from that could be cropped, if you SO DESIRE! I compared an image using the 2470 f/2.8 GM lens on the A7SM3 and the A7RM2 of driftwood trees at 50 yards zooming at 400% able to count bark trails and ridges on a Sand Dollar that was at the bottom nearest, just using the rule of f/# two stops above widest for best sharpness near and far, on both cameras. So Stills on the A7SM3 are superb, like the original A7S that started the on camera video craze, should not be ignored!!!!
Absolutely love how effortless it is to photograph at night with the a7siii
Hey Kyle, how did you arrive at 115 pixels per inch as being the best for printing?
Hopped on the phone with the print shop and asked!
Also, to clarify... 115 isn’t the best. It’s just the best before it’ll stop looking good.
@@kylemeshna I work in the print industry, 115dpi for print is horrible, for a lot of our print work we'd accept 250dpi at a push, 200dpi if we really had to, but never below.
you can print billboards from iPhone 5 images. billboards DO NOT HAVE a high DPI. not even close. the opposite in fact.
Great video. Answered a lot of questions I had. Could you talk about image quality with the A7siii when it comes to digital photos on the web and social media? That is, can someone tell if the image quality of a photo on Instagram is from a A7siii or an A1?
Maybe I'll let you be the judge! For the last few months I've been shooting on the A1, A7siii, and A7riii. If you go check my IG, can you tell which ones are which?
Been trying to decide between the a7iv and siii. Amateur landscape and astrophotography. Don’t like to do much more than edits in Lightroom. Sometimes cool object, maybe wildlife if I ever got ahold of a decent lense.
I’d love to have mainly better quality Astrophotography photos. Landscapes as long as they’re decent I don’t mind. Would you recommend the siii over the a7iv? I’d never print or at least for now. Mainly just phone and instagram saving. Although the idea to print would be neat if I ever got decent enough ha. Maybe years away.
Thanks!
Are you doing much video? If not, I think the a7iv is the better bet. From the sounds of it you need a good photo camera that can work pretty well in lowlight. The a7iv is the best value for camera for what you’re looking for I think
@@kylemeshna awesome thanks so much! And no video! Kind of was leaning towards that so I appreciate your content and comments!
I have taken some stunning photos on my Sony A7S2, but if I were going to take photos that I knew would be enlarged to a high degree I would choose a higher megapixal sensor just because why would you not.
A few years ago I used my old Nikon D300 (12 mio megapixels) for shots used to make XXXXXXL prints (printed in 100dpi) for big truck-trailers and it looked great. Nobody complained or noticed :-) Megapixels is great for cropping in, but not really that necessary for most shots - and if you enhance/enlarge in like PS most people wouldn´t even notice any major difference. Besides most photos are used mainly for screens/web these days in 72dpi - so 12 megapixels will be more than enough most of the time.
Was the image taken with the A7sIII? You never mentioned anything about the actual photo. Thanks for the video. A great sensor makes all of the difference resolution aside.
Yes sorry! Thought that was implied, but indeed the main photo and the 2 astro photos shown towards the end were all taken with the A7sIII
@@kylemeshna Thanks :) Just thought I would check!
My A7SIII screen froze one me while shooting. Even turning the camera off the screen stayed on and frozen. Had to take the battery out. Anyone had any issue with this? Whats the best Sony support email to contact someone? Thank you
The Sony Alpha chat support online has always helped me out a ton
This 4th gen body is probably the best all around camera Sony has ever produced. And at a still reachable price. AND at one point in time, 12 megapixels was screaming state of the art and no one complained back then. This particular camera is the ONLY Sony camera I would ever consider purchasing, I don't care how many megapixels something has.
The 4th gen body is sooooo much better. I love how much they’ve listened to feedback
What about if you do most of your photographing after dark. As far as 12 mp, I cheat and now use ai gigapxiel. Also, who has perfect vision to actually see these?
It’s strange people ask this questions as if digital photography started with high megapixel camera like photographers were shooing and making prints with 12mps and fewer for years so if they were able to make prints then why wouldn’t they now
I actually love it! The photos in my A7s3 are good. Ok, not as good as my a74’s photos. But I like how my a7s3 handles the luminance.
I find the a7s3 images to be super pleasing. And you can always use AI enhance in Lightroom if you need to boost the resolution a little bit
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Can’t tell you how much I appreciate this, Brian! Thank you!
@@kylemeshna 🙌🙌🙌
I have been loving my S3 for photography. The color out of it reminds me of my old Nikon D700. Except it has virtually no noise. I had a few events to cover for several days and they had super crap light. So between my A9, A7r3, and S3 I found myself using the S3 for 90% of the time. Since then, I have shot a pile of events with the S3. The photos get used on social media.........so why go crazy with resolution? I now have added an A1 because the S3 made me realize how old and worn out my other bodies feel. I wonder which one will win my event battle? I have feeling I will still prefer the S3 for basic event stuff.
I think if you’re doing event photography you might find the added speed and AF performance on the A1 pretty wonderful. I think it does pretty decent in low light too. I just posted some thoughts about the A1 as a separate video as well btw
@@kylemeshna I know the A1 blows the S3 out of the water in most situations. But man that 12 mega pixels is super practical for a lot of applications. I think people get wrapped up in megapixels and might never print a thing. Great review pointing out how big you can actually go. Especially with the new Adobe tools.
@@infinityphotorob Absolutely true about the 12MP being super practical. One thing I really love is using it for Timelapses. Such a more manageable experience all the way around
How’s the noise in photos compared with a7r3?
@@gimaru1 Much petter noise performance compared to the A7r3. What are you using it for? Theres some added benefits of the smaller sensor as well for stuff like Astro. You'll have less star trails on the a7siii for a given exposure time due to lower MP sensor.
All around, the noise performance is fantastic on this camera. Dont think there's a camera out there that does better in low light scenarios.
Can you enhance the RAW file and then crop it later in editing?
Yeah definitely!
what are the websites you recommend to order prints from ?
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I just got this camera for video and photos . It’s 12mps whaaaat ? The Nikon d700 one of their most favored cameras ever and its 12mp . Small files are a nice thing over my d850 and d810 Nikon dslrs .
excellent camera still..
Aren’t billboards only about five megapixels since it’s so far away
A little late to the party but your 100% RUclipsrs saying its an IG/social image producer-only, with AI getting better with systems like Adobe's raw enhancer i generally think it will go back the other way eventually. Another thing that people miss with this sensor (I've only had it on loan and testing files from Dp review raw files) is the colour. Its very very fuji like (if not a little better) don't know what they've done but none of their other cameras are like this (must be a nightmare for sony shooters with an arsenal of sony bodies to match colour quickly), if anyone is a fuji shooter like me and you're looking to move over for whatever reason but still lust after your fuji colours this is closest with very little work by a good long way. The images have a fantastic filmic quality to them. As for cropping well, it just has to be done in-camera with zoom lenses, the holy trinity will be a must for this camera. This will make a better photog for sure in regards to cropping.
Very well said! I agree on all accounts!
Nice video man and I have < zero interest in the Sony a7sIII lol
Haha perfect! You can still use the same trick for that brick of a canon you’re lugging around, don’t worry! 😈
Soooo, in that case, would GH5 be a better choice? :D
Thanks to your video, I decided to buy an a7siii instead of waiting for the a7iv
Epic! You’re gonna love it
I had a a7iii and now have a a7siii and I Iv taken the best photos Iv ever taken with even just 12mp
I think it’s a big time net-upgrade over the a7iii. I think compared to the a7r series or A1 is where there could be some complaints (from a photo perspective)
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I really do not understand who would purchase this camera and expect it to be a photo centric camera. At the professional level (not consumer or prosumer level) each camera has it’s niche. If you are a professional photographer/videographer it shouldn’t come as a surprise to you. As a Professional, you understand that you purchase “tools” based on your niche. As a consumer maybe you would by the latest release from a manufacturer and not understand that it’s not a “one size fits all” when it comes to the professional full frame camera market. These manufacturers design these tools for professionals to earn a living and get the most return for their investment. My camera makes me money and I earn my living from it, so why would I purchase a camera that would not cater to my niche?
Why would anyone purchase a camera clearly designed toward video shooters and expect it to be exceptional at anything other than the target market it was designed for? The “S” on a Sony Alpha camera stands for “Sensitivity” meaning better low light image quality and fewer pixels. Whereas the “R” stands for resolution meaning more pixels. If I want a high resolution camera for print work and/or commercial photography I would purchase a Sony A7RIII or A7RIV. Purchasing an A7SIII and complaining about the print resolution would be tantamount to me buying a Corvette ZR1 and then complaining that it doesn’t have a good for towing capacity for a 14,000 LBS trailer (Should’ve purchased a Chevy 2500 HD if I wanted that).
it was designed for video. Do ya print Billboards
Thanks but as has been mentioned, 115ppi is awful quality. Even a magazine which prints at smallest 8x11, editors and art directors want 300dpi. So sure, 115ppi COULD work for personal work because of viewing distance from the posters, but for serious printing, this camera is just a no.
12 megapixels may be sufficient for that poster, but if that same picture was taken by an A7RIV or a Canon R5, the image would have been even better
I have a Sony A7S iii for video....I will pair it with an A1...when I get the scratch
DOPE.
The A7S III is just a fantastic camera...does it all...just works.
Agreed
It's 2021. Nobody prints. I mean, some do. Those are dinosaurs.
If you arent printing your work and only viewing them on smartphones and computer monitors, you are really doing yourself a disservice., Every photographer should be printing at least some of their work and really enjoying it. I make up to 24x36s, and all sizes in between, from my work quite often.
@@michaelbell75 You can do 24x36s with a 6MP camera. People did all the time when it was "state of the art" and you wont see much difference from 12MP or 24MP... It's also not about "yourself" - it's about printing for customers and such.
who the fk buys an a7S3 for photography? Its like buying a ferrari to go offroad.
Uh… you just don’t know how to use it.
On the contrary it does great for photos
Did you even watch the video?
I’ve seen some amazing images from this camera from other photographers. I was blown away.
It’s honestly fantastic