WATCH LIVE: ‘Take Care of Maya’ Trial - Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital - Day One
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2023
- The family of Maya Kowalski, the subject of Netflix’s “Take Care of Maya,” allege that a report of child abuse from Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital led to Beata Kowalski taking her own life. The Kowalski’s are suing doctors, the Department of Children and Families, and Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital for $200 million dollars in connection to Beata’s death. According to court documents, the child abuse case against Beata was pushed forward after Maya’s physician confirmed her condition, complex regional pain syndrome, was not the fault of her parents. During the time Beata was separated from Maya, she took her own life.
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my story is nearly exactly like maya’s. i have crps, went to the same exact hospital just a year or 2 later than her, and still had to fight really hard to get them to prescribe me ketamine to get me out of my quadriplegic state. thank god they didn’t seperate me from my family (likely bc they were already battling maya’s family) but i heard them talk negatively about me and my family. they also told me it was all in my head, and told me to get up and walk while i was paralyzed in a wheelchair, bc they didn’t believe me. i had to fight to get my meds. i then saw dr. hanna like maya and he saved my life. maya’s situation saved my families lives, but i wish none of her family had to go thru that. i thank maya so much for raising awareness about crps and for fighting so so bravely for the justice they deserve.
i even had the same therapist marissa at tgh 🥲🫶🏼
@@shellyliban7069 hmmm… have you ever thought maybe…. just maybe … i had more than one condition 😮 crazy i know!
@@shellyliban7069 Never had pain that made you freeze and not move?
@shellyliban7069 if you can't use your legs because of pain, you might as well be paralyzed. But way to look for any pedantic holes in a sick person's story. Does that make you feel good? Seems to make these doctors feel good. Mind your own health. Seriously. Yes, I am sure you know more than a person who actually has the illness... 🙄
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The importance of this case is the public notice of how social workers and first responders DO NOT always or often have the best interest of the children. This is happening across the nation!
They are incentivized NOT to! 💔
yep
Yup it’s all about the MONEY! It’s sad 😔
Florida cps is for profit. The more kids they take into custody the better they are paid.
My Daughter was in traction for 3 months for severe scoliosis from marfan syndrome. I slept beside her every night and called the hospital home for the entire time. The thought of being separated from her during this time like 'Maya' was makes me feel physically sick!
The fact that one staff member said she was better off now that her mom’s dead makes me sick. 🤢 💔
That certainly was a disgusting statement wasn't it
It’s very sad but Mayas mother was misled by a quack. Who would allow their child to be put in a drug induced coma and kept on potentially deadly doses of ketamine and other dangerous drugs. Since the mother tragically ended her life and the Ketamine stopped Maya began to walk and has continue to improve ever since. Look at her. She’s a beautiful girl who appears healthy. Her mother didn’t want her better. She wanted her tranquilized. The mother was clearly mentally ill and behaving irrationally.
Dr Vose said that.
Çouldnt be working for me
@mandystrong8196 That is hard to argue that he was a quack, he has over 40years experience and is an MD, and anesthesiologist. His area of specialty was pain, he dedicated 20yrs to south Florida University understanding pain, If you have children, have they ever been under anesthesia, have you been put under anesthesia? Did you trust those Drs? Beata did with her daughter, he was a pain specialist plus an anesthesiologist. As a mother myself I cannot judge what I would do and not do for my daughter in debilitating pain. She would scream all night and day in agonizing pain.
His treatment of Ketamine is no different than a hospital giving it to a patient. I do not think she was a bad mom by any means. Just a desperate mom to find answers that nobody could give her at the time.
The family has already won one lawsuit proving that she wanted her daughter better and the Drs were wrong in their judgment.
My mom was diagnosed with CRPS. It took roughly 5 years to even get the diagnosis and she’s been on ketamine treatments for 14 years as of Sept 24th. It may seem like a simple arm hold doesnt hurt, however for someone who has CRPS, its excruciating. This documentary is so important and I hope Maya and her family win and are taking care of themselves.
Prayers for your mom, you, and your family❤
Yes, I live with this dreadful disease and a pain pump has helped me tremendously. Prayers for your mom
Yet Maya is doing fine without any treatment since she recovered.
@@shootfilmnotguns2023 did you not watch Dr. Chopras testimony today??? No one said she is doing fine, they said she was forced to do it w/o pain management. Just because she's walking doesn't mean she's fine🙄
@@ambermcvay6844 100% I have thoracic outlet syndrome. Something as simple as holding hands sets my symptoms off. You learn to function at a higher level of pain and THROUGH pain after being forced to because people who think they can’t see it means it doesn’t hurt.
Just because you look okay does not mean the pain is not there.
🕑 TIME STAMPS 🕐
0:01 Jury Instructions
4:00 Start of opening statements
1:22:25 15min break- releases jury
1:23:30 Court releases for 15 min break
1:45:23 Audio starts
1:45:40 Cameras on- back from break
1:48:00 Continues opening statements
3:01:25 Judge releases Jury for the day
3:21:50 Court recesses for the day
Thank you, good person 🙏
Thank you!
The fact that the doctors were calling her “ketamine girl” in their personal texts to each other. Hope the family wins their lawsuit.
That’s a pretty accurate name actually. Listen to defense opening and then their turn in the trial. She was given more ketamine that any these Dr.’s had ever seen. Ketamine girl isn’t a lie,
Sounds reasonable to me given the fact that for some reason the mother felt that her daughter should be taking an incredible amount of ketamine in spite being told that these treatments had a 50 percent chance of death.
@@sharonhoyt2133 no the coma was the 50% of deaths. But also nobody’s ever died from it.
was so sick seeing those texts
@@PEBBLEZ21 But that's the same as calling a cancer patient "Chemo girl" because she keeps getting cancer and requiring chemo and then acting like it some derogatory slight. It's absolutely rude to call her that. If they wouldn't call a young female chronic cancer patient "Chemo girl" it makes no sense they would refer to Maya in such a derogatory fashion simply because her case is more severe than others (especially when they forced her to suffer for so long because they didn't believe her or her previous healthcare team. Again, imagine denying a young girl chemotherapy because you think she is faking cancer and then refusing to talk to the oncologist who diagnosed that girl with cancer and then mocking her behind her back at how bad she fakes cancer).
I’m so glad this finally went to trial. IMO, criminal charges need to be pressed against the CPS workers & doctors
Sucks that the family had to drop one of the defendants, Sally… I think was her name, the cps worker
@@ariannaarredondo1641she actually settled out of court. Well Suncoast (her employer) settled out of court.
@@brandilee4366 oh ok i didn’t know that…
Thank you for clarifying it 🙂 i only understood what the news said that they dropped her from defense. I’m just learning the details on this case
@@ariannaarredondo1641I think the case against the social worker Cathy Bedy was dropped.
Dr Sally Smith and Cathy Bedy were both under Suncoast. Settlement was $2.5M from reports I’ve seen/read.
I can’t wait to hear all the evidence in this case! I work in healthcare and everyone who does takes an oath to do no harm. I started researching this case when I first heard about it, and I was actually surprised that this isn’t the first or last case of the hospital treating families this way. The lawyers for J. H. is going to have to work a miracle because the emails and messages between the hospital staff is very damaging, IMO!
I hope the attorneys for the plaintiffs will have credible witnesses to explain the treatment for CRPS that their client was going through. Because those not in the medical field could have a harder time understanding that all kinds of medications are used for various off label treatment. And there are many treatments for different illnesses that are successful being used in other countries that aren’t available in the United States. Just because they aren’t used in the United States doesn’t mean the treatments don’t work.
I just retired from my hospital last year, after 45 yrs of nursing. I also, by the way, have RSD, now called CRPS, & have for 40+ yrs. This whole story makes me sick, and has for a long time. I was following it before I heard of the Netflix doc. Those emails, there is no way to defend their way out if that!
@@KansasCityScientologyAudit how on earth did you do nursing with RSD TYPE 1/CRPS TYPE 1
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@@KansasCityScientologyAudit I 💯 agree!! And I too researched this case and some others before the Netflix documentary came out. I haven’t even seen the documentary as I don’t have Netflix! Those emails are very damaging!
I agree! The text messages were awful. One Dr. Said "Ketamine mom died." then said something like her assumption was right. The dr. that responded to her said it was sad and felt bad.
The Netflix documentary was so well done. The social workers were truly out of line with the treatment of the family. Truly evil.
What was it called?
@@beffis1980“take care of Maya“ as the „title“ of this lawsuit
@@rangi75rehua ty I figured it out. It was new to me.
That is why so many people have decided the trial is only necessary to get the money....minds are made up that the hospital should have just written a cheque...swayed by a TV show. It has taken years to get this trial to court, and the hospital is fighting this, for a very good reason, they do not accept the accusation that they caused the mother's death, by misdiagnosing Maya or reporting their concerns to the Child Protection Service. Many miss the point that the mother killed herself in her home so her husband & son would find her. Hung herself...could not be more dramatic or cruel. Their lawyer said in his opening statement that an expert with show the Mother was not mentally ill. Her actions belie that statement.
@@GRMLS5Agree. My father hung himself. The problems came from inside himself and the hanging was cruel to those left behind. I don't think Maya's mother was a hero in her fight to get her daughter life threatening drugs or in her death by her own hand.
My heart absolutely breaks for Maya and her family. This Netflix documentary was incredible and could open up a lot of people’s eyes to disabilities and medical conditions that you can’t always see. As a nurse, I applaud Beata for all that she did to advocate for Maya and only giving up when she couldn’t take the insane allegations anymore. I pray for the Kowalski’s throughout this trial and I hope they are able to find some peace and comfort at the end of all of this.
It is such a sad story. What is the name of the Netflix documentary?
What's it called ? This is first I've heard of Maiya 😢
@@lg6041Take care of Maya
@@Cindy.m.RTake care of Maya
@lg6041 Take care of Maya
If she didn't have CRPS why did they use that diagnosis code to charge the insurance for 3 months?
It’s astonishing that this hospital doubled down on their actions and let this go to trial. This happens far more than many are aware of. The fact that they billed over 500k for the diagnosis they took Maya away for is disturbing and infuriating.
The despair Beata felt is unimaginable. Justice for Beata and family.
When I saw that at the end of the documentary, I was even more angry! I hope this family gets compensated. Unfortunately, they will never get Beata back. 😢
Did you hear the dangerous treatments she was getting..why do people overlook this child was hooked on dangerous drugs!
@DNC-justmyopinion - Just stop. Either you are PR for the hospital, were not listening, a troll, or ignorant of the reality that is our medical system related to under researched illnesses.
@@PEBBLEZ21wouldn’t that be on the doctors and not Munchausen By Proxy? Is that why you’re missing?
@@heleennuts1 this is what I didn’t get about the whole thing! Yes the drugs were extreme and maybe there could have been a better way to treat her…but how is it the parents fault for doing what the doctor prescribed. They listened to the doctor did what he asked and she seemed better what else were they supposed to do?
I just the Netflix documentary of Taking Care of Maya a couple days ago and my heart shattered for the Kowalski’s. Shame on the state, Dr. Smith, judge Haworth and other medical staff who destroyed the Kowalski’s. Praying for justice that the Kowalski’s get justice! Rest in paradise Beata ❤
I hope Mayas lawyer communicates more clearly going forward. That opening was rough
Super rough...the defense came across much more favourably to the jury on this first day
This is exactly what I was thinking. This needed to be much more clear and structured. Too much meandering. Hopefully the witnesses will be very strong. I watched the NF documentary and it did a far better job of outlining all of the facts.
Yes that was about the worst opening I have ever heard... He looked very informed b4hand, but after that opening I was shocked.. He had me all confused. It didn't flow very well
Yes it was very rough! Didnt finish sentences, spoke about certain medical things that some jurors may not even know what it is, very scattered and emotionless!
I can’t understand a word he’s saying. I mean I’m only slightly exaggerating but good GOD. He’s worst than our deteriorating politicians, and they’re awful!
My heart goes out to Maya and her family.
I suffer from this condition. Complex Pain Syndrome. It took 4 long years for a proper diagnosis that all of my doctors missed. Finally, a UCI neurologist ran a series of tests and found severe nerve damage in my left leg.
In 1995 I had an accident that forever changed my life. 😢
Me too, although I've had it for more than 40 yrs, so still call it the original name, RSD. 🫂🫂🫂
I've been on pain mgmt for over 30 years. I feel your pain. Pain is tricky sometimes because you can't always prove it.
@@julin2rs548 awe, I feel your pain. I am so sorry. It's been a tough road for us both. 😥😥
@@julin2rs548Same here. What people don't see re pain doesn't exist. Even family members become deaf & blind because they hear the same moans and groans every day for years. It's awful.
@julin2rs548 I am with you on that. I have been treated like a criminal drug addict by a number of "professionals". Anyone who knows me, knows that by the time I ask for help, I have done everything under the sun to help myself from yoga, pilates, self hypnosis, otc, topicals, heat, ice, tens, etc
As a CRPS sufferer this truly breaks my heart. I watched the documentary and was left so upset and angry. I hope they get everything they deserve and i hope this brings more awareness to this life changing condition 😢
Did you do ketamen treatment?
@tthomas no its a fight to get it in the UK. I take a bag full of meds every day that just makes it bearable.
@witchinastitch4882 ooooooh. I hope you're feeling ok today :-)
I just finished watching it. I paused this so I could learn about the case. I cried so hard that I'm nauseous. I hope they win.
It's heartbreaking to watch.
I was told l had Parkinson's and treated for a year. Then sent to a hospital in London for a week l didn't have Parkinson's l had FND a software problem to the brain.
It's a difficult condition to treat.
You are just written off and made to feel you are a fake.
The medical professionals think they are God's and know it all and are not compassionate.
I hope this family gets the answers they are seeking. ❤
It's sad that it took the netflix doco to blow up for this family to finally be granted a fair trial. But I'm glad that this beautiful family finally get a trial and a chance. The whole case is so heartbreaking and shows how much both her parents loved their children. Maya's mother stood up for her daughter and just wanted the best treatment for her, as a loving and caring mother would. It's so sad that it came to this tragedy for the doctors and social workers to believe her parents and Maya. Rip Beata
I'm sure they knew that Netflix was making a documentary though because Netflix usually reaches out to parties invlolved. So I'm sure they understood they couldnt do the rinaround anymore.
The medical industry is overwhelmingly criminal. If you think surgery is necessary, think again. It’s necessary to keep the hospitals afloat and the surgeons flush.
Maya and family, if you see this, the world is on your side. Your mother's death will never be in vain. Be strong and know your mother will always be an angel for you all. Her strength is in you all. Fight this to the very end. God bless you and your family 🙏
This had been happening for years. It's so sad and noone should ever have this happen to them. How incredibly isolating for the mother. The medical staff and even law enforcement had zero problem pinning this all on her and even pin her own family against her, that's horrific. May God have mercy on their soul
Beats was so beaten down and depressed she felt eliminating herself was the only answer for getting Maya out of the hospital. Even her own husband thought she was being too pushy in her fight for her child's best interests!
Any good mother will do absolutely anything for their child, go to the ends of the earth, including Mexico, and fight like a Grizzly to protect her child! Beata was a nurse, so with that knowledge, and everything she’d already gone through trying to find some relief for her daughter, combined with months of listening to her baby girl screaming in pain day and night, absolutely made Beata come off as aggressive towards her daughters care, because she’d seen it work so well before! Regardless, if the Ketamine treatment is safe, or not, she believed what she was told by a very reputable Physician, and had seen it completely change her daughters life for the better, so I’m not debating that. I’m just saying that there’s no love as strong as a mother’s love! And there’s a big difference between a mother’s love and a mother being crazy! I’ve seen people in the comments call Beata mentally ill and etc! Those are just the types of people that put her in her grave!
>>Karma is always watching..
I'm so happy they got their day in court. They deserve everything they are seeking and more. I'm rooting for them
Maya if you get to see this after everything I want you to know my heart is with you, your brother and your father. I'm so sorry 😞
I did medical malpractice work my entire career. Maya and her family have a strong case. Her attorney is giving a weak opening statement. I hope he is stronger over time. I have not yet heard the defense attorney give his opening statement.
My exact thinking. His opening remark was weak
Maya's story is an eye-opener for all parents. RIP to Beata Kowalski.
This is absolutely terrifying. What this family had to go through. So very sad.
I’m so happy they are finally going to trial. I hope justice is served. I also wanna a meet and greet with the Dr 👊🏾
Them stripping her down to her bra and shorts and taking her pictures is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!
I want to see that woman on the stand so bad being drilled by the defense 🙏
@@andreasalgado3296that lady is either the one that settled out of court or had to be dropped I think sadly
She already testified she was under instruction from risk assessment who were directed by DCF.. Maya was removed from her parents custody so they did not need consultation nor was their permission required for the pics. DCF usually take photos when a child is being moved to another location to ensure evidence of their physical condition is recorded. That day they were unable to send someone to take them so asked that the hospital have it done.
They were not entered into her medical record…
The opening by Maya’s lawyer was a mess. I am so disappointed. Maya, her brother, dad and especially her late mother deserved better than that.
Absolutely
Agreed. Dude had all the time in the world to prepare thoroughly but he was not very comprehensive, accurate, convincing or articulate. I hope the jury are able to decipher some of his incessant babble.
yeah i was surprised because the trial kept getting pushed back so you would think he would have had EXTRA time to prepare his speech… saying “i think” multiple times after presenting points in the case is not good… you shouldn’t have to “think” you should just “know” the details of the case by now..
also, constantly mixing up Beata and Maya’s names… good lord…
My heart hurts for Maya and her family. I hope they receive justice for the treatment and heartbreak they endured.
This hospital should be closed down and investigated if this is the way they treat there patients. It's freakin disgusting. The " medical people" should be struck off and sent to jail never to walk free again.
Or at least they should never be able to do their jobs again!!
That judge should go to jail for not allowing Maya’s mother to give her one hug, just one! 😡
Yes, best to eliminate a pediatric hospital and prevent thousands of children getting care. Good call!
@@evansj62189if you can’t do a job right you shouldn’t be in it.
I passed this documentary so many times on Netflix, watched some trial … watched the documentary today and I cried like a baby 😢
Wow, I’ve watched a lot of trials. The video quality is incredible. Hope a certain someone who is going to be on trial at some point in the future will have this kind of quality.
Definitely one of the saddest cases I've heard, prayers for the family 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I'm so sorry for you and your family's loss. I was diagnosed with crps in 2019 after a work injury in 2018. I have had my own battles with my previous place of work and workers comp . I'm so sorry for what you have all been through, and I hope you get the justice you all deserve. My heart goes out to you and your family . As a previous nurse and now crps sufferer myself, what this hospital and staff put you all through is appalling . Sending prayers
As a master social worker working at a children’s hospital, I find the way CPS handled this patient and her family incredulous! From the CPS type cop I find she and her power grabbing ego made this hospitalisation (s) into something totally unnecessary and the continued piling on was aided by this social worker taking a stand and making sure the nurses on Maya floor were complicit in not presenting this to hospital administrator and/or attorney.
I also have CRPS (RSD REFLEX SYMPATHETIC DYSTROPHY…older term that IMHO should never have been changed as RSD is clear by name of health issues explains well what the person is dealing with.
My heart is out to this family. The person in charge that ruined this family should at least never practice with children for rest of life.
The fact that the diagnosing doctor who caught this first should have been taken as a qualified provider who actually works with those who have RSD/CRPS.
what they did to this family is unrecoverable!
Is there reason this head offender isn’t named as a solo defendant?!
As a retired social worker I totally agree it should all be on Dr. Sally Smith!
@@juliewilson654 Yet it is the hospital that was put on trial. The family should sue CPS then.
My understanding is Dr. Smith has retired and settled for 2.5 million.
@@shootfilmnotguns2023they settled with the doctor. This is not the hospital's responsibility.
Smith settled.
I wish so much strength and healing to the poor Kowalski family. Hope justice finally prevails
Maya’s lawyer seems to be on the ball & very informed. I pray she finally gets what she deserves. RIP Beata ❤️
Really? He seemed all over the map to me.
Me too. He had me confused as heck.. He would briefly mention sumthing then he would say he would get into it later, he did that many times but never go back to cover it.@@jovicrazed
I thought he was bad at laying out this story. It was confusing and seemed to want to cover every possible fact that may come up in this trial instead of telling the heartbreaking story of the system destroying this family.
@@garybaker497 This was my exact thought
Thank you!! I thought I may be the only one who feels the family’s lawyer is terrible! Did they have any fundraisers for legal expenses? This lawyer is monotone and as he talks he comes across as disinterested! He shuffles papers and reads off them with no emotion at all. A lot of cases come down to the lawyers personality. So I pray the family has great witnesses and clear evidence because this lawyer is putting everybody to sleep!
Among all the scummy things the hospital did is the contradiction between charging the family's medical insurance for half a million dollars for the treatment of an illness they insisted Maya didn't have. I don't get it.
So sad & at the same time so infuriating! What these doctors & hospital administration should be taken to the Supreme court.
As someone in the Healthcare Profession, this makes me sick they would treat any patient like this, let alone a child 💔 This has to be one of the worst cases I’ve heard as far as Medical Professionals being involved. 😞
Hope this family gets justice this case has went on long ❤
I won’t watch the documentary until after watching the whole trial. The court of law will show the evidence from both sides where a documentary will only show one narrative.
Yeah that's what I'm going to do
I already watched it, but I’m going into the trial with an open mind. We want to hear the hospital’s side to see their defense
That may be so, but because they have already reached a settlement with the social worker who was involved I wonder how her involvement will be revealed,
Agree! I would never, ever base anything on a Netflix Doc. They are in the business of creating a story that will play on the side of their take on the subject rather than all of the facts.
No, the court will only show the evidence the judge deems to be allowable, which will definitely not be all of it.
This is so heartbreaking!! I'm crying for this family watching this! God Bless you all! RIP Berta. You are a good mother watching over your family from Heaven!
Omg you gotta watch the documentary 😭 this family deserves the upmost respect and justice that I have ever heard this poor family and what that mother endured is heartwrnching 😭
Just watched it... I cried so hard I'm sick to my stomach.
Imo this young lady & her family will win. Especially if anyone on that jury panel has ever been in the hospital alone. Never at no time are there 3 nurses smiling taking photos in a patients room just for f sakes. Like Maya said she had to use the bathroom on herself at times cuz they didn’t want to help her. All those nurses who helped carry out this wickedness should be individually sued as well. Like not one of them just maybe considered Maya being in pain? Sad to know that this is a epidemic in the USA. All doctors believe they know your body better than you. Tell you what hurts & how much it hurts. It’s insane that it goes on more than ppl know. Especially if you have nobody. You get treated badly. Ive been treated by by er nurses at different hospitals in my city. I find that a lot of nurses just become nurses for employment. Not cuz they actually care. Seems like these indifferent people are in high positions. That John hop psycho lady she needs her badge snatched off dined & thrown in jail.
This defense lawyer is not cohesive in his remarks 🙄😳🫣
I meant the lawyer for Maya
This is the worst freaking lawyer I have ever the displeasure of listening to in delivering such an important opening. He just has not oomph.
I agree the plaintiff lawyers need to up there game.
Also, he goes “I guess” after stating facts that are crucial multiple times. I don’t know if it’s just a bad habit but it makes his statement far less compelling.
@@alliek13 it felt like he just ended like ohh well, the story narrative was all over the place. If I ever have to be represented I won't have till lawyer till I've seen them in action.
Literally I’m here in the comments just to see if anyone else thought this about their lawyer. He’s soooo hard to listen and follow. Oh man… oof.
Yeah, it's really bad. The defense lawyers are serious contenders and they're going to come with their A game. The opening lawyer is really watering down their case with these details that make zero difference.
I hope the hospital is made to pay every penny. What they did to this family is an outrage. I hope justice is served!!
Oh my word. Give the lawyer a personality
This has to be one of the worst opening statements I’ve heard in a long time. I’m glad the jury saw past this and into the facts. This is yet another horrible case of basic standard of care and social work.
When you're in chronic pain you usually don't have the strength to eat. I wouldn't.
The lawyer basically destroys his own case. Every time she has a difficulty in her life, her symptoms appear. And he mentions how they were treating the son for some other “rare illness”
And she has improved and functioned much better since the hospital intervention and not on ketamine. The ketamine was not working. If it was controlling her pain it was destroying her other functional abilities. She was wheel chair bound, atrophied, malnourished, not able to perform ADLs, wearing briefs, she presented to ED in severe pain, and so on..
@@NurseKayPyou must not have watched the documentary
@@jackielove2737 the extremely one-sided propaganda piece documentary
Continue watching because from Maya’s own testimony, she worked her hardest to get stronger and better. She blames herself for her mom’s death. She was trying everything to never go back to the hospital because of fear. The ketamine helped her!
The family definitely deserves justice and compensation.
That amount??? Come on…that will bankrupt a great hospital.
Great hospital? Doesn’t sound like it! I certainly wouldn’t go there.
Medical gaslighting at it's finest. Wow a cautionary tale for everyone in health care.
You can't judge an entire case based of a documentary. I'm just saying. I definitely had my bias going into this, but I feel like the defense did a good job with his opening.
The hospital was supposed to look at the patients medical history and they dint do that
Same
I agree. I want to hear both sides but more importantly, I want to hear from the doctor that helped her the first time.
Absolutely!
@@rachelwalsh6116they absolutely did…they could see how many different hospitals this mother was going to for dangerous treatments. Classic Munchausen by proxy?
I was diagnosed with stage, four RSD 24 years ago and the pain is so excruciating that there are times when I wish I was dead. It took 16 doctors to diagnose what I had and not one. American doctor knew what it was but doctors that went to medical school, and their countries knew what it was. Nothing helps. no matter what they do or give me nothing helps. Ketamine did not help. Now they’re going to have to put another door so calm stimulator to see if that works. The pain is over 85% of my body and I don’t even feel like a living person. Mine began as a victim of a crime.. Doctors used to tell me it was all men mental, doctors tell me that it doesn’t spread, and that I was lying about it, etc. I felt like I was the only person at this level until Maya, the documentary came out on Netflix, and for the first time I felt there was somebody else out there that understood what I have. I am now 64 years old, a man that is now being treated like a little child, because I cannot do anything for myself hardly.
This goes to show, that people in power have the power to take your children. They’ll take your children, hurt your children and sleep like babies at night. this is heartbreaking 😢
You got that right 100 percent. I have no trust in our health care system, government, and for sure social workers. Too many, unnecessary, trauma filled events from people of authority and everyday people that are nosey, on a power trip, mean, and just want to control people. I have no trust in most of our systems that are supposed to be of help to others.
TO THE KOWALSKI FAMILY. MAY YOU BE FOREVER HEALED FROM THS NIGHTMARE. AND RIP TO MRS KOWALSKI. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL. HUGS FROM PHILIPPINES
SO glad this finally came to trial!!!
Prayers for the family
Although this is a difficult trial I am glad it is making more people aware of CRPS and I pray that a lot of good comes out of it in terms of how hospitals/providers handle this.
I saw the Netflix documentary and it made me sick. So many people should be held accountable not just the Hospital. It's hard to believe this happened in the USA. I pray for the Kowalski family and hope they get the justice they deserve. Unfortunately that won't bring Beata back. It really seems criminal charges should be brought against some of the people that allowed this to take place.
After the many reports of horrible behavior by doctors and emergency medical personnel during the recent international widespread illness (cannot be named on this platform), reported by nurses who witnessed these things, many people have become very distrustful of the medical community. I know I go to the doctor far, far less. And I don't automatically take the doctor's prescription or diagnosis as fact. My friend underwent heart valve surgery without anesthesia because some medical person took her drugs for their habit, and she felt very step of the operation. When she tried to talk to her doctor about it, he gave her vague answers to protect himself and the hospital. I know there are trustworthy doctors, but how do you find them? Maya's (Beata's) story just reinforces how I feel.
Your friend didn’t have open heart surgery without anesthesia. Wtf are you talking about
That sounds absolutely crazy! Is that even possible??🤨
@@SlothLoveChunk14 She had a valve repair. And yes, she felt everything. They didn't open up her chest. It was less invasive, but during the surgery, she kept complaining and the doctor was yelling, "Where is the anesthesiologist? My patient is feeling pain."
A sweet 10 year old girl in Australia was diagnosed in July 2023 with the same disease! I pray our Heavenly Father has his hand over her and heals her.
If you need hospital care….DON’T go to J Hopkins. What they did is outrageous… no matter what they say now… they managed this situation poorly… pathetic.
Please give this family some justice ♥️
Plaintiff’s lawyer is a mess! I really wonder if he threw his opening statement together in less than an hour last night. Terrible!!
I believe he did it in a bar the night b4!! He sorta looked hungover and unclear!!!!
John Hopkins need to go bankrupt, have them be the example to other hospitals.
I feel especially since they love to advertise how they're the best at anything even complicated health issues yet pull this
Other children hospitals in our country are the same way unfortunately. Doctors from one of the two children hospitals in my city did a podcast on this topic last month because of the documentary
So many families destroyed in that documentary. I believe some of the parents are still in jail.
@@Lori_in_CT only one family in that documentary which is Maya's. But that hospital and doctor Sally Smith has put alot of children in the system.
They are quackery!
I LOVE that jurors are allowed to submit questions. This should be the procedure in every state!
Prayers for Maya and family, such a sad case.. Justice for her and her family 🙏💜✝️✡️
A long time coming
He should have started this case by thoroughly explaining what CRPS is. By going on and on vaguely referring to it in relation to his client and the hospital . . just confuses the jury.
That's what the experts are for. Having a lay person try to explain something as complex as the diagnosis would be much more confusing.
@@88jeebs A simple dictionary definition would have gone a long way to clarify the term.
@@tthom2459 fair enough
37:42 - he describes it
I hope the Kowalski’s other lawyers are better than the one that gave the opening statement! That opening was extremely difficult to listen to!
He didn’t even talk about CRPS correctly - it’s complex regional pain syndrome…. not chronic
Thank you!!!
I just watched it and he said complex the first time
Right! I had to google the correct term
I have it & I don't call it either. 😂 I've had well past 40 yrs, & back then, it was only called RSD, Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy. I was in the clinical trials of doing Radical Sympathetomies for treatment of RSD (CRPS). For all of us that have it, or for me at least, the goal is to just be able to manage a life, and not do anything that might exacerbate things and go into a full blown RSD cycle.
The terminology for the disorder has changed over time. As more people have been diagnosed and treated neurologists have refined and updated treatment approaches. The name for the disorder has also changed. At one time fibromyalgia was not recognized as a "real" disorder, among others.
The attorney for Maya was horrible at opening. I truly hope he gets better as trial continues
This made me cry
Justice for Maya and family! 🙏🙏🙏
I would like to understand how it is possible for physical and occupational therapy to be performed on a child who is screaming in agony, sometimes with even a minor touch to her skin?
My mom got RSD after a roller skating injury and it’s extremely painful. This poor family
My heart hurts for this family
Sounds like this mom knew what her daughter needed and she was a health professional too. Some doctors/nurses get offended when you try to ask for what you know you need. Like they’re god and don’t tell them what to do.
I want to hear both sides before I decide.
This is so tragic. 😢
It's very sad this was done to this family. I hope they win.
@Law&Crime Please tell me you are going to cover this entire trial! This one is personal to me, as I also suffer from RSD (CRPS). REFLEX SYMPATHETIC DISTROPHY =COMPLEX REGIONAL PAIN SYNDROME
It would be great if the L&C logo wasn't covering up the relevant images on screen.
I don't know much about the case for now, but I think the lawyer for the hospital did quite a good job in the opening. May not be a very popular opinion.
This beautiful young woman is so like her mum please god there will be no more pain for this family.x
This is a nightmare for families with children with rare illnesses!!!
Exactly!!!
I pray this family gets justice
Nothing in this entire world will ever be able to erase the pain those two baby’s feel knowing their mommy killed herself because of this hospital, there is a chance they will never be able to find peace. Dr sally smith & cathi are the most despicable woman & all the staff working at that hospital.
There is absolutely nothing that will reverse this trauma & ache that keeps this family up at night. The only thing keeping them going is the divine presence of the mom. This is sick & I’ve never seen a case touch my heart in such a way.
My son was accused by a neighbor he had a minor conflict with, you would not believe what he and his wife went through. My daughter-in-law was so distraught she almost fled, it was insane
It’s sad that’s malpractice is hard to win with so much proof drs nurses and hospitals need to be held responsible for any unprofessionalism or harm in any way!! Drs need to stop and start believing in their patients !!!
Doctor ego!
It’s interesting that ketamine is/was such a controversial treatment. I’ve read that’s it effective at treating resistant depression prior to even hearing about this case, so for why is it so outrageous for severe pain. It’s also a schedule III non-narcotic, but has been referenced as a narcotic.
yes a lot of people are using Ketamine treatment for bipolar disorder, anxiety etc. obviously it’s monitored etc . i watch the doc last night and let me tell you it really opened my eyes to how common medical kidnapping is etc. the fact her mother felt she had to take her own life for her baby to be safe is outrageous and than the hospital bills for the condition they said didn’t exist. this family deserves every cent they are suing for unfortunately it will not bring her mother back but it will help them get back in their feet
The problem is that it was a novel treatment for this disorder at the time and the dosage for treatment is very high. The jh doctors made assumptions based on the dosage, it seems.
Just want to add how inhumane and dysfunctional our justice system is. We should have the best in the world and instead we end up harming and damaging victims even more. Congrats America for not even attempting to overhaul this congested mess.
No victim here. The hospital was onto that mothers terrible treatment plans.
@@PEBBLEZ21 She's dead a--hole. So whatever your crazy mind wants to think that family deserves compassion. Their medical doctor was fully involved and it was their choice to choose the route they did. Their daughter's condition had improved. It's not your call how they chose to treat their daughter. She was loved and cared for. The system killed that mother and emotionally, financially ruined hundreds of others. Grow a heart ffs.
Wishing Maya and her family total justice.. I hope they receive every bit of compensation..nothing will bring her mum back or restore the injustice that the ‘Goliath’ mentality of social worker and hospital did .. but dad and brother and Maya deserve every bit of it… I hope they bring them to their knees .. full blown apology and admitting the wrong doing they bestowed on this family .. what a hero Maya and her family are 🫶❤️🫶
I have been watching this trial off and on for a few weeks. Just watched the Netflix video. Now have so many questions. Have to go back to day one and watch the WHOLE trial. So sad if all is right in the documentary.
Gut wrenching dude to see her cry!!! What MONSTERS that hospital is full of!!! I’ll never go to that hospital! Not even if my life depended on it.
Omg just watched the documentary, I’m a balling mess this is so so sad so wrong . That poor family 😢
I haven't watched the documentary, but I think the defense had a stronger opening statement.
I think I could have done a better job than the plaintiffs attorney
This case is a slam dunk for the plaintiff. Why sweat when you've got it in the bag?
Once you watch the documentary, you'll understand that it is a huge uphill battle for the defense.
Nevermind how many people will now boycott the hospital.
Ketamine is not fda approved for the treatment of crps yet. Which is why most people with it cant get the treatment because its so expensive! Without it being recognized as a treatment for crps, insurance will not pay for it. Sorry for all of the comments but i have CRPS so this really hits home for me. 😢
It’s dangerous that’s why!!!
@@PEBBLEZ21 there are dangers to every pharmaceutical. Ketamine has given many their quality of life back that suffer from crps. When you have CRPS you're willing to try anything to not be in pain. It does work for many.
@@PEBBLEZ21Chemotherapy is dangerous. Radiation therapy is dangerous. Yet people with cancer choose the treatments every day. If your life is being destroyed by a disease, you will choose the dangerous treatment.
why was their first thing to do , wean her of a treatment she'd been on for 9months? it seems very weird.