The Eerie Disappearance of Ron Brown's Ill-Fated Mission! | Mayday: Air Disaster
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- In April 1996, a U.S. delegation led by Commerce Secretary Ron Brown faced a perilous landing in Dubrovnik due to rain. The American plane disappeared from radar, and the war-torn airport lacked proper equipment.
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Mayday: Air Disaster - From Season 4 Episode 8 "Fog of War": Military 737
April 3, 1996, a military 737 carrying high-powered passengers crashes miles from its intended destination in Croatia. Was the accident an act of terrorism against the United States or were other factors to blame? The investigation into the crash forces the military to change the way it operates.
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Inadequate equipment, bad weather and restricted airspace in a warzone. What could possibly go wrong?
May all rest in peace.
You need to look into this story deeper. This isn't what happened
Not wishing to sound insensitive but there was waaay too much emphasis put on not upsetting people and not enough put on flight safety.
This isn't what actually happened. Look into this story deeper
This program ‘Mayday’ is typically fairly accurate in its portrayal of accidents and the facts. That is, until it comes to pointing the blame at certain individuals or agencies. I realize this program follows the official narrative of the accidents, but also think they could add some open end questions when it’s quite obvious the narrative is not right.
As a pilot myself who’s been flying many years, in fact long before this crash happened back in 1996, I think most professional pilots of my age and older if they watch this program will pretty quickly know what happened to cause this crash. It wasn’t a “false ADF/NDB beacon” set up to guide them away from the airport, and it wasn’t due to any kind of military action against the aircraft. It wasn’t because the airport “wasn’t approved for landing” by the Air Force higher ups, and it certainly wasn’t because the systems were so antiquated that a safe landing couldn’t be done. And lastly, it was NOT because the aircraft didn’t have two ADF’s/NDB radio navigation units!
In fact, when looking at the radar returns from the airborne Air Force radar plane, it shows us experienced pilots from back in the day, exactly what caused the crash.
This crash occurred because of one main circumstance. And that is, that none of the pilots onboard knew how to properly fly an ADF/NDB approach. The Air Force would never admit this, especially with such high profile passengers. But even on this program, they’re making deceptive statements, or perhaps instead of calling them deceptive statements, half truths would be more accurate to say. Like the statement that the aircraft didn’t have two ADF/NDB navigation radios so that made it unfit to fly the approach. No, it didn’t. In fact, because the airport had TWO ADF/NDB beacons, made it an even much EASIER approach to fly. Most airports back in the day only used ONE. Having TWO is a bonus, NOT a detriment. And switching a radio back and forth to receive two different beacons, is something we did as routine back years ago, when ADF approaches were everywhere and used frequently.
The problem here is the pilots didn’t know how to properly use the ADF proficiently. By 1996, younger pilots had received minimal training flying ADF/NDB approaches. When we learned to fly in the 1970’s and before, NDB approaches were taught and you had to be proficient in flying them. And these approaches require old school flying. Meaning, calculating degrees, intercept angles, and all kinds of mathematical equations and reciprocal bearings to fly a good stabilized approach. If an airport had two beacons, that made it much easier because you can fly a “to” radial at the halfway point. Anyhow, without getting to technical, these young pilots were not proficient in doing a taxing ADF approach in pouring rain and high winds. Their straight in approach line shows us, they didn’t have a clue what they were doing. They simply overflew the first NDB, and then flew an inbound heading of 117 degrees the entire way into a mountain. They were supposed the fly the 117 degree radial, which in high winds from the south, would have made their proper course more like 125 degrees, not 117. But they didn’t know how to interpret the instruments to read their outbound radial. And BTW, the whole thing about the Jeppesen charts not being “approved”? Nonsense. Jeppesen charts were always the best. The gov issued NOAA charts not so good. The AF also used that as an excuse.
See, by 1990, FAA was saying all ADF’s would become obsolete. They used to be used everywhere and we had to know how to use, but then training softened on them when word came for obsoletion. Flying beacons took skill, not like following a GPS in today’s flying that’s so simple.
Most Pilots today could never fly an ADF approach in bad weather and survive. Because they’ve never had to become proficient at it. Unless their an old timer like myself who flew in the days when ADF was still common place, and ADF was used not only for approaches, but also enroute navigation. Especially up in Canada.
The last one I watched, also had a twisted tale of half truths, about Avianca flight 52, that crashed when it ran out of fuel as NY traffic controllers ran them all over the sky instead of letting them land. But that’s another story! You can see my comment there. 👍👍👍
PS*”Military pilot” is not always synonymous with “ very good pilot” as people normally, & falsely believe.
I agree. I soled on my 16th birthday 1971. Geometry was my favorite subject and I had found good use for it. Things sure have changed.
Just say you lack basic comprehension skills. Also....when hurling out insults, spelling out words helps prove your own level of intelligence.
@@edmondt848 that’s a shame. I read every word, and I really learned something.
Thank you for explaining all that. I don’t really have any major interested in flying, except that RUclips started showing me this and I’m on a bit of a binge. But what you said makes a lot of sense. Signed, a 51 year old American.
So, add poor pilot training on top of it all. Just another thing on to the pile of AF screwups from the bad charts to the missing voice data recorders and flying into that primitive airport with a plane and crew not properly prepared to begin with.
Assuming you're right it just piles more errors on top of the ones noted. I wouldn't exactly call the documentary inaccurate. I myself am an old CPA and I won't bore you with the details, but young accountants today also don't have the depth of knowledge with the tax code that we used to because today the kids let the computers fill out all the forms for them unlike us old guys who had to do it all manually with paper and pencil.
So, I understand your attitude. It's just not one that would occur to the kids who made this doc.
IMO
My grandfather passed away in this crash before I was born, he was a civil engineer heavily involved in the reconstruction of the Bosnian region. About 10 years ago my whole family hiked up to the memorial placed atop the hill the plane crashed into. Absolutely surreal seeing videos about the accident…
Diverting to Brindisi, Italy would
have been a prudent move.
Wow! Finally, a reasonably new episode!😊
i love watching these and everyone thinks i’m weird for it 😭
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Agree! I love flying too
I like watching them a lot more when they're not re-runs. But, I do, too. I think, the reason I like it is because it's comforting to see how much effort goes in to the investigation and how hard they try to prevent re-occurrences. I know it also has to do with finding out who's liable. That is, whether it's the airline, the airport, the airplane manufacturer, or an individual, etc. They do this to see whose insurance will have to pay all the damages. I know that. But they also try to prevent it from happening again. Still, I've been watching these for over a year and, at this point, I'm not sure I want to fly again-- LOL!
I've watched so many I doubt I will ever fly again. Seriously.
@@brianisaac1575 same. the littlest bit of turbulence and i’m going to start writing my will
How about the day before you take off with 200 souls on board "YOU TAKE A LOOK AT A TOPOGRAPHIC MAP TO SEE WHAT MIGHT BE IN YOUR WAY."
Nah. That takes too much time.
I always do, and I am fond of avoiding war zones
It's almost like there's more to this story...
Now, I've seen another documentary that has a whole another approach to this.
why was the crew blamed? the data they had to go by said they could fly much lower than was safe. so running into the mountain was not their fault. they were sent into a non-safe situation.
i seem to recall seeing this episode a few years ago.
The Air Force was blamed also, the charts had not been reviewed and were rated for 2200 feet they should have been changed to 2850ft this is a minimum in the US it is not so uniform across the world which is why charts are reviewed and corrected for pilots. The crew also should have had a brief that included routes, reroutes, severe weather avoidance plan aka SWAP. The plane should also have had 2 auto radio direction finders for an NDB approach. It was time to wave off and select a location with the proper systems.
I may have explained something incorrectly (leaving out a couple details due to my own ignorance), but this is the basic reasoning behind it. I mess around with single engines only and have jumped out of larger ones, I am in no way an expert, I am an amateur.
@@callmethreeone understood. i just don't think the crew should have been blamed at all. not with all the other issues you named. it's as if they make the crew into scapegoats.
thanks for the well articulated response.
@@redshoesgirl The military does frequently use us as scapegoats, understandable when these projects cost billions, failure looks awful. This is a case where the pilots knew the capabilities of their plane and were warned twice that they would not be able to land with what was equipped, but they still chose to.
Good chatting with you! I hope you have a great day.
@@callmethreeone thanks and you too. 🙂
Can anybody say Arkancide?
Reflecting back at the time, if my memory serves me correct, Ron Browns body was found with a bullet hole in the back of his skull.
Why didn't the AWAC let him know he was off-course for a landing???????????????????
Thank You to the Croatians who tried their best in impossible situations .
I've flown many complicated n d b approaches and it takes experience and patience. It's not likely that the air force pilots were skilled in Long lost art.😢
I saw a detailed analysis of this. their instruments weren't working right when they tried landing. I think this disaster was planned.
“To do business and politics ten thousand meters in the sky” I love the concept of being something you do. “What do you do, Bill?” “I do politics, Charlie.”
Dang it, Bill!
Sounds like they were heading to Epstein island
"Do more with less" Nope. You do less with less.
Depends on the circumstance. Sometimes there really are too many cooks in the kitchen
Man, I couldn't even begin to imagine what Special Ops member Dodge Caravan must've seen while approaching this plane crash with all distinguished passengers and crew having passed.
The issue was not that they were flying 600 feet below what the the minimum visual contact altitude for the airport would have been in the U.S.; but that they did not know where they were or in which direction they were headed. It certainly does not make sense to blame the fact that one part of the military bureaucracy overruled another part to allow flights to that airport in the first place. These are really just very indirect holes in the Swiss cheese failure model. A lot of living people seem to have been blamed for this. But it was the aircrew’s decision to apparently proceed with an unapproved gyroscopic approach after losing confidence in the best available navigational aids. If they lost the landing aid, or lost confidence in it and relied instead on gyroscopic navigation knowing that that gyroscopic Information conflicted with the fixed point navigation aid, (and while approaching an airport with mountings looming over it on one side), that was their fault.
Their failure was obviously due to none of the pilots knowing how to fly an ADF approach. The talking heads in this program tell us loads of half truths and point the finger at many higher ups, mainly to save face, instead of saying pilots who weren’t proficient in flying ADF approaches, had no clue what they were doing and killed a bunch of “important” people, especially political figures. As a pilot who flew in the days when ADF was still popular, there was nothing wrong with the approach they were supposed to fly. In fact, since it was equipped with TWO beacons, instead of the normal ONE beacon, it made for an even easier approach! But the talking heads spun that in a deceptive way, saying the aircraft didn’t have TWO ADF radio navigation aids so they couldn’t properly fly the approach. Any pilot worth his salt, who flew in the days of ADF popularity, knows full well that switching back and forth between two beacons was often standard practice. In those days many aircraft only carried ONE VOR navigation aid as well. So switching between frequencies on VOR & ADF was not out of the ordinary.
Today’s pilots don’t realize how easy they have it. Flying today is how many people envisioned it was years ago. “A line pops up on a screen and all you have to do is follow it and arrive safely”. While GPS does that for the most part today, flying back in the day required constant figuring, constant mathematics being done while in flight to determine course, wind corrections, ground speed and an entire host of other things. These three young military pilots didn’t have that experience. And that’s pretty clearly shown when you look closely at their radar track inbound after they crossed the first beacon inbound. They didn’t know what to do. So, as many students used to do in ADF flying when first learning, they simply turned the aircraft to their inbound heading on their approach plate. They didn’t know how to track an ADF radial outbound, in blowing wind and rain so they just held their 117 degree heading in a straight line! This was a common mistake of new pilots back in the day flying ADF.
Young pilots in the mid nineties hadn’t received good ADF training during their instrument rating training, because the FAA had declared a handful of years prior they were doing away with all ADF’s. So sadly, training on that lightened up.
What the FAA failed to say, was that ADF’s would still be found and used as primary navigation aids all around the world in countries besides the US for many years to come! Believe it or not there’s still functioning ADF beacons today. But even in the 90’s, they were still all over Canada, and even the US. But in the US by 96 had mostly been turned into approach fixes, no longer navigation aids.
@@jmflyer55 Yes usually these investigations are too apt to blame pilots when the plane’s instruments are giving them wrong information or no information, or when there are mechanical failures causing a confusing set of circumstances that it would take a mechanic or a lot of time to figure out, or when they are following procedures but the procedures allow for discretion that costs money or time and are implicitly discouraged, or when weather conditions force them to fly near maximum safe altitude, or turn around, or make a diversion that puts them at the edge of their fuel reserves, and they make one of several less sage but reasonable decisions and things sideways and instrument or autopilot problems cause too much confusion for them to recover. Here, it seems to be the opposite for some strange reason.
Arkancide...
All Top of the line individuals, surely loved by their family's and proud of them. Such a devastating accident to so many important "Mover's and Shaker's especially but not more so than the others Ron Brown. It's been a life time since this happened and I hope the family's are okay.
I'm wondering if the approved flying corridor airplane could have been used to identify the airplane.
Not much to say. Obviously a crazy idea to land in such a weird airport in extreme conditions. The fact that civil planes are not allowed to land is probably a clue to the pilots that maybe they shouldn't bother.
This story goes way deeper than you realize
I have some very vivid memories of this happening. I was in Bosnia at the time as part of IFOR, that stood for Implementation Forces. In other words, we were there as I put it, to shove peace down everyone's throat. The only ones who didn't like it were the Serbians, but they finally signed the peace treaty and there was "Peace".
Back to Ron Brown. That morning, we were stationed at Guardian Base but were to go to the nuclear reactor which was at most 1 mile away. The MP Platoon I was with was assigned to was tasked with providing security for Ron Browns visit. If I remember correctly, he was there about half an hour and then left. We actually had a day off afterwards. Later that evening we saw it on AFN-TV that the plane crashed in bad weather. It took all of us by surprise and shocked that he and the others were dead.
He was murdered 🤔🎩🇺🇸💀
The woman tech sergeant would not have worn a hat indoors, no pony tail, and no dangling earrings.
😂😂😂
True.
True
Kind of ruins the mood...
@@XxBuRkaDuRkA They're not claiming she had any military service at all. If nothing else - They're not paying attention to military dress requirements for a reenactment. No valour was stolen.
That is very strange, no one lived. 🤔
I'm not 100 percent sure but wasn't there something else about Ron Brown that came out. I could be completely wrong since it's memory I'm going by but wasn't it found he had a bullet wound to the back of the head as well?
One of the 1st Clintoncides.
wdym
DuH! It was a plane crash!!
19:06 - A rotary phone? Granted, my family still had one at the beginning of the ‘90s but we were almost the last and this is an airport/military base!
Vince Foster Air Charter.. may I help you…oh Senator Wellstone, we’d be happy to book a charter for you and your family.
(Scratches the Wellstone’s off Christmas card list.)
And later Vince's name was scratched from the Clinton's Christmas card list. Another body bag or two, who's counting??
No ordinary flight? These people were more important….
i was gonna say dont they all fly seperate just in case like this happens but thats fairly new
the investigaters American flag is hung incorrectly. Can u find it?
Is it me, or is the 737 a narrow body. I know it's just a reenactment, but the set was a wide body. I might be dumb.
I haven't see this one. This is interesting.
I thought that the controller guided the plane into that mountain. Also didn't the controller commit suicide the next day?
You're operating on memory as I am. I seem to remember something like that too and also wasn't Ron Brown found to also have a bullet wound to the back of the head?
As to the two comments above:
The Air Traffic Controller committing suicide…. No, the ATC did not commit suicide. HOWEVER, the person who DID commit suicide just 3 days after the crash, may be even more curious. For it was the maintenance technician himself, that was responsible solely for working in the two navigation aids, and being sure they were in proper working order, who committed suicide just 3 DAYS after the crash, and BEFORE a scheduled interview with top brass of the US Air Force….Hmm…🤔.
Second:
Ron Brown’s body found at crash site with a bullet wound in his head? Interestingly enough, a senior doctor for the US Air Force was given X-Rays of Ron Browns autopsy report. In those X-Rays he filed in his report that he saw evidence of Ron Brown having been shot in the back of the head prior to the crash. He said the X-Ray showed a clear entrance would and the normal metal fragments.
Shortly after his statement, his superior officer, also an Air Force top brass doctor, stated publicly that the first doctor had made an error, and that NO gunshot wound was found. He stated that the metal fragments were caused by an aircraft part contacting Browns head, and that the alleged .45 caliber bullet seen in the X-Rays was nothing more than a defect in the cassette that the X-Ray films are housed in. He additionally stated there was no exit wound.
So, that’s the entire scoop on those two issues. Wow! Even a person with just a hint of conspiracy theorist in them, well, this is more than enough to run wild on! Especially when you consider that Brown was to testify against Hillary Clinton when he got back to the states. He stated to his coworkers how sick of Hillary’s using him as a puppet he was, and covering her illegal activities.
So, the question is; Is it all a cover up after the fact, and the Clintons had their hand in all of it? With over 50 people directly related to the Clintons business practices dead, I guess we have to ask ourselves just how many coincidences can happen without ruling it intentional? Almost 60 deaths sounds pretty staggering to me. One or two people? Yea okay. Half a dozen? Hmm…well maybe. A dozen people dead? Hmm… Well, presidents know a lot of people so….maybe? How about between 50 to 60 people dead? Could it happen? …….🤔….😳
@Vlasko60There is enough in this history to make people a little strange if they don't think it's - let's say collusion so you don't think people are just making things up. Of course I don't have any information that would implicate any one of them... 😮 and jm flyer is just stating facts that have been written before.
@Vlasko60Ockham’s razor applies here.
Some say that lone survivor Shelly Kelly was murdered after being taken from the crash site so there would be no witnesses to what really happened.
That’s ridiculous. It’s clearly obvious what happened. See my other comment. 👍
And Ron Brown's head had an unexplained hole in it and the brain suffused with lead particles.
@@jmflyer55ummmmmm the video CLEARLY stated she was a survivor.. tf are you talking about
@@relatablerealness973 she died...
@@hannahyoung6762.. on the way down in the ambulance.
He should have gone to his alternate
That man was Murdered!🤔🎩🇺🇸💀
@@handsome-brute2666 thank you Bill and Killary
this report leaves out a lot of important details. There was a survivor
She died on the way down the mountain. Supposedly, the two people responsible for maintaining the NDB were found dead a few days later. That to me is really suspicious. They also forget to mention that Ron Brown was charged with some "crime" that could've possibly involved the Clintons if he implicated them. But, the video stuck to the facts as reported. If you think the Clintons were somehow involved, the video will not change your mind. Me: I don't know. I think the Clinton involvement theory is a pretty big stretch... there were 2 aircraft coming in and one made it... how would you have known which one Ron Brown was on. Could it have been a act of sabotage? See above.
The attendant lady right? Died mysteriously after wreck?
@@andrewandres148mysteriously?…yea just like the other hundreds of people around the Clinton’s.
You got it....... The continually rising Clinton "dead pool".... Even Ron Brown.. @@mattnj211
It was Sgt Kelly!! YeH...she probably will never want to fly again! I wouldn't blame her at all...what a waist of lives.
Why would they fly in such terrible weather?
Politicians believe the laws of physics do not apply to them.
Going to repost what another commenter put here;
The Air Traffic Controller committing suicide…. No, the ATC did not commit suicide. HOWEVER, the person who DID commit suicide just 3 days after the crash, may be even more curious. For it was the maintenance technician himself, that was responsible solely for working in the two navigation aids, and being sure they were in proper working order, who committed suicide just 3 DAYS after the crash, and BEFORE a scheduled interview with top brass of the US Air Force….Hmm….
Second:
Ron Brown’s body found at crash site with a bullet wound in his head? Interestingly enough, a senior doctor for the US Air Force was given X-Rays of Ron Browns autopsy report. In those X-Rays he filed in his report that he saw evidence of Ron Brown having been shot in the back of the head prior to the crash. He said the X-Ray showed a clear entrance would and the normal metal fragments.
Shortly after his statement, his superior officer, also an Air Force top brass doctor, stated publicly that the first doctor had made an error, and that NO gunshot wound was found. He stated that the metal fragments were caused by an aircraft part contacting Browns head, and that the alleged .45 caliber bullet seen in the X-Rays was nothing more than a defect in the cassette that the X-Ray films are housed in. He additionally stated there was no exit wound.
So, that’s the entire scoop on those two issues. Wow! Even a person with just a hint of conspiracy theorist in them, well, this is more than enough to run wild on! Especially when you consider that Brown was to testify against Hillary Clinton when he got back to the states. He stated to his coworkers how sick of Hillary’s using him as a puppet he was, and covering her illegal activities.
So, the question is; Is it all a cover up after the fact, and the Clintons had their hand in all of it? With over 50 people directly related to the Clintons business practices dead, I guess we have to ask ourselves just how many coincidences can happen without ruling it intentional? Almost 60 deaths sounds pretty staggering to me. One or two people? Yea okay. Half a dozen? Hmm…well maybe. A dozen people dead? Hmm… Well, presidents know a lot of people so….maybe? How about between 50 to 60 people dead? Could it happen?
The flag on the back wall at the hearing is backwards. The field of blue always goes in the upper left.
That happens a lot in these productions...oh well🤷 3:26
All standards should be the same
9:00 what in the world that was 1996, and that part of the country had a airplane that patrolled like a police officer driving a car.. that's crazy! 👀
AWACS. They are deployed in war zones as a radar tower in the sky.
I’ve watched dozens of these plane crash investigations and what gets me is ANYTIME a plane crashes immediately we go to looking for fault. Who can we blame for this? Alls this crash did was ruin the lives of over a dozen people that were not involved. Demoted, forced to resign, forced to retire ect. No matter how you look at this we lost way more people in the investigation than the crash, we had to replace all those military personnel. No doubt many of the people their referring to who actually were fired had never even step foot on the airport their referring. We send these politicians out all over the world to hostile regions and third world countries this can happen easily again and I’m sure eventually it will. Their not exactly maintaining airports in places like Africa or in the Middle East.
You're right. Let's not investigate crashes at all...
With a much money as the American govt gives to our military, there's no excuse for this happening.
Simple, incompetence by the Air Force and nobody was held accountable.
No, it wasn't that simple. This flight was doomed to fail. Ron Brown was under numerous investigations. It's all too easy to blame the Air Force for incompetence but when you take a closer look at all the available facts like the bullet hole in Ron Brown's head then the lines start to blur.
This originally aired in 2007
In America we don’t use metric 😡😡
Why even fly in that weather? Commercial planes were grounded for a reason.
How in the world could anyone say that the lack of the CVR or FDR contributed to the accident? They help with figuring out what happened, but have nothing whatsoever to do with wny a crash would occur in the first place. Saying they're needed as a "safety" measure is ridiculous.
Sorry, but why did the pilots NOT tune in the second NDB, the one right at the end of the runway? That there is a huge error. Even with only one ADF receiver, they should have tuned it Iver, OR missed approach.
No, because that’s not the proper procedure to fly that approach.
The crash happened because none of the pilots were proficient with flying an ADF approach. Being younger pilots in 96, pilots were no longer trained as extensively as we were back when ADD was still everywhere and used not only for approaches but also enroute navigation.
But the proper way to fly that approach, is tuned to the first ADF/NDB beacon. They just didn’t know how to fly an ADF radial outbound in blowing wind and bad weather. That’s obvious from the radar data the other Air Force plane supplied.
They took big chances to fly there in a bad rain storm at night and to an airport that is not fully functional...
Btw . Did anybody notice the radio audio in the background is playing backwards
37.10 .Whats going on there.........
Reupload
Shocked the world.. sure if you say so.😂😂😂
Some American diplomat said, "Get me there today" and threw his or her weight around. It was foolhardy to send that plane in the dark, in the rain to a place with bombed out and destroyed landing equipment.
The video has been dramatized. If you listen to the timeline they were flying in the middle of the day. On the subject of dramatization, does anyone really think that a US diplomat would be standing on a runway, in the rain?
Classic Clinton footage here, smirking almost as if trying to hold back a full-out laugh. He always looked like he just finished snorting a line.
It hurts you when people look happy, doesn't it?
@@mangos2888 Only when it's obvious they are evil like that POS
It’s called “duper’s delight”.
@@robertjones8598 That is exactly what it is. He was a classic example.
@@mangos2888looks happy while talking about the death of sec brown? I wouldn't think he was happy, or I hope not, but he certainly looks like it. I haven't seen him speak in a long time but that struck me just watching him.
Ron Brown had to go...his certain criminal downfall was going to bring down his boss. Shelley Kelly couldn't be allowed to survive, either.
You may be onto something there…🤔
@@bassnbrass9272Maga rat
Elaborate, please. I cant find any info on the topic
@@belleami7675 I found this: Former Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown died on April 3, 1996, in a plane crash near Dubrovnik, Croatia. Thirty- four persons accompanying Brown on the trade mission also died in the crash. Due to the efforts of Judicial Watch we now know beyond a reasonable doubt that seats on Brown's Commerce Department trade missions were sold to raise funds for the Democratic National Committee and the 1996 Clinton/Gore Campaign. There is overwhelming evidence that Bill and Hillary Clinton knew of and approved this improper and illegal fundraising scheme [1].
Even more serious than the sale of public property for campaign contributions is the likelihood that transfers of American technology, approved and overseen by Ron Brown's Commerce Department, breached national security. Bernard Schwartz, head of Loral Corporation and a major donor to the DNC, accompanied Brown on a 1994 trade mission to China. During this trade mission Brown set up a meeting between Schwartz and a Chinese government official. This meeting led to a transfer of American missile technology to the Chinese that is now the subject of a congressional investigation [2].
At the time of his death Ron Brown was under subpoena to produce documents relating to the sale of seats on trade missions to Judicial Watch for its suit against the Commerce Department. Nolanda Hill, a friend and business partner of Brown, testified under oath that Brown had shown her a collection of such documents in an ostrich skin portfolio. These documents were withheld from Judicial Watch in violation of the subpoena and a FOIA request. Just before his death Brown reportedly said of his mounting legal troubles, "I am too old to go to jail. If I go down, I'll take everyone else down with me"
@@belleami7675 I think my reply was scrubbed. But Ron had dirt on many people and said, 'I won't go down alone', hours before the crash.
After seeing about 50 airline crash documentaries over the last 3 weeks, most of which I was unaware, I think I'll Never fly again . The world has gotten SO crazy , maybe I'll just hunker down in my bedroom, with Lots of canned food , & and basic utensils . Think I'm Kidding ?
No I don't. I'm 68. Pilot, A&P mechanic, and I've gotten to the point if I didn't do the maintenance and I'm not the pilot I'm scared to fly. Only in extreme emergency situations to save time will I fly. And to say the least I've been in some very close calls. Perhaps I feel I've just run out of luck. I prefer to walk.
30:37 is called mil spec
Are there more that we should add on to a certain list?
Ron Brown died in this plane but not necessarily the crash. He had a bullet sized hole in his head.
😢😢😢
I have saw this plane. This is just like a 737
Lol "Ram-Schteen"
I love this show for scenes like 32:05; it's such a ridiculous thing to do that could never happen in real life. But on Mayday some director thinks it's great plot device.
Landing is wet?
Yea, what was that? I kept trying to figure that out.
💔🙏
I'm sure governement will be up front and will let us know exactly what happened. Especially Clinton. 😂😂
Ask Jared Kushner
Is chewing gum during flight common for pilots?
Might be a nicotine addict. A lot of people chew gum when they can’t smoke to calm their nerves lol.
I think its dumb actors
I thought chewing gum was and is forbidden for pilots and others while working?
It helps ease ear popping at altitude changes.
Who knew the female who survived the crash was gonna die on the way to the hospital? That's a given when the job calls for no survivors!
y'all like that new USAF logo for all your old logo era videos.
You'd have to ask Hillary Clinton what really happened to get to the bottom of this one
Ron was a Washington Insider with lots of charisma. Could it be he could have been to close to Killary? We ALL know how she deals with those who could expose her even more.
A time before the confident broke and we actually had money
Air force pilots are not that good as commercial pilots...
A time when democrats weren’t crazy…
Can we check politics at the door please?
@markgraham5796 Uhhhhh, you mean just about every point in time after post-1967...?
Actually, in a way you’re quite correct. Although the Clintons were and are horrible, our government was not yet filled with anti American communists calling themselves “democrats” as it is today. Now that much is most certainly a fact.
Crazy republicans are following a clown who wants to throw out the constitution
True. Now they destroying the Country
Im guessing they wanted no witnesses......
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Oh Shush!
@@scott_madsennigga u shush this channel has an obsession of posting the same videos with different titles and thumbnails
@@scott_madsentalkin bout some “oh shush!” 🤓🤡
And?
When you have more new crashes to cover you can make what ever episode you want.
why didnt they go ahead and get the mechanic they getting everyone else
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Typical of liberal politicians like Billy Clinton, our commerce secretary is not for American commerce, but the worlds commerce secretary.
They told why don't be a maga rat
I'm sure your guy was focused on US commerce...
@@mangos2888 You apparently did not listen to the story here.
You do realize they took Ron Brown out as he was about to squeal, right?
@@baseballworldwide9439 Yes, he, like so many others connected to the Clintons, ended up dead. He got the Foster treatment.
None of those helicopters were MH53s lo. The closest you got to a 53 was one of their weird delta models. IDIOTS.
Obviously kidding about the ‘idiots’ part. 19:41
They killed the surviving flight ✈️ attendant with overflow of oxygen 😷 in the ambulance 🚑🎩🇺🇸
Hello
Kinda lame with no audio 😢
Go Fever strikes again.
Meh politicians
Does not the Holy Bible say to pray thy flight or travels be not in winter or on the sabbath? Yes it does. And us not bad weather in the sky when an airplane is flying through it? Yes! Read your Holy Bibles! I will pray that you do. Amen.
My sympathies to all on board that ill fated flight except one....if Brown helped get Clinton elected then I have none for him....from a Vietnam era vet!
Trump didn't go to Vietnam or any damm republican f you
Feel free to pass any day now
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