I agree with most things you said, except the eyes in the black suit, I think they were designed that way to make Spidey look like he's constantly pissed off, which fits perfectly with this game's story
Exactly he’s always glaring when In the black suit since it’s him having a negative outlook on the world. Same with venoms symbol it’s distorted as venoms undergoing a mutation something the game hinges on
I respect your opinion, but I’ve never had a problem with the designs. I’ve personally always thought the designs fit the world they are in. The smaller eyes on the symbiote suit fit pretty well tbh, they make him look really mad and aggressive which is probably the most recognizable side effect of the symbiote in modern media, but then again it’s your opinion and I respect it. (The symbols do kinda bother me a bit though.)
I think having vibrant colors on Spider-man's suit wouldn't have worked well seeing as nothing goes well for him and results in him being tired and hopeless throughout the story. I personally think that many of the design choices that made this game "ugly" were ultimately made to work well with the story and I think things like the big Venom eyes and brighter Spider-man coloration would've been a bit much just for the sake of accuracy (although the logos on the two suits are pretty off-putting now I look at it).
Yeah. I understand where he's coming from, but I think they went with this approach because, well it's Peter Parker. He's always gonna be down of his luck. This gritty world wouldn't complement a vibrantly colored Spider-Man at all and I personally like the ruggedness of of the important characters, including Venom. It's a city overrun by massive hordes of symbiotes, not Disneyland or some whimsical fairy tale of a dashing savior in shining armor.
That's true but his suit is supposed to contrast his dreary and mundane life the bright colors on his costume make him stand out aswell it would've worked perfect, it would make the heroes a symbol of hope in the symbiote invasion, They're supposed to stand out and not blend in with the world they're supposed to be heroes for the people.
You wrong about Venom's design, your redesign looks cleaner wich is the opposite of what Web of Shadows Venom is, he's a messy scary dark monster thats how he's portrayed throughout the game and the design fits that vibe perfectly
the web swinging and all the animations clipping through objects etc etc makes me cringe so hard when people try to say this game is better than spider-man ps4. the web swinging in web of shadows is worse than the web swinging in spider-man 3 and everyone knows 2 actually has the best web swinging of any spider-man game to date minus miles morales
i respect your opinion, and I can see why you feel that way. but as good as your redesigns are , i just don't think they would fit in "this" game. as someone else pointed out the black suit eyes being small is to make peter look pissed off, which is what he is 90% of the time in that suit in-game lol. and personally i just love how the classic suit looks like a slightly grungy ditko/classic spidey suit. the brighter red just feels out of place juxtaposed with the grittier nyc (pre and post symbiote invasion.) i do like your front logo change. and your venom redesign is fire tho. 10/10 vid my guy,
My favorite part about the swinging in Web of Shadows if the fact that you can hear Peter breathing heavily when really pushing his speed while he swings.
@@morozpauchok5818 several years ago in the age of games with a grey and brown color palate and generally muddy textures yeah no one really paid attention to the visuals but with videos like this that point out the flaws with the general looks of characters and gaming in general taking a big leap in graphics yeah my point still stands
Electro’s suit design in this game is what I wished the insomniac games did. A good blend of grounded and comic accurate. I wasn’t a fan of the power armor/ plating they went for mostly all of the characters in the newer games
That “power armor” is his harness… Spider-Man deduced that Otto upgraded Electro’s harness in order for him to be close to “pure energy” as possible according to the PS4 game.
@@theunknownvoidz1409 I know there’s story reasons why they have it, I’m just saying I don’t like the look. It takes away a lot of the iconic imagery spidey’s villains have
@Psycho Shenanigans tbh I'd be fine if it wasn't comic accurate if it weren't for the fact that electro honestly had a forgettable design in the insomniac game
I actually love the design of the red and blue suit, it has a menacing battle hardened look that really fits the the world it's set in with the skinny muscular body that makes Spidey feel strong and agile. Come to think of it, I love all the designs in this game including venom, they just have this serious aesthetic that I love
Best combat though. As they advertised, I remembered fighting guys in the ground, then taking it to the air with air enemies, and then the wall. This game was insane and had amazing combat. The camera angles with the web strike was so sick, you could no even know what direction you’re in in the air, but it makes sense. I wish they make another game w the combat.
@@Dangangela6565 lmfao nooooo buddy. Ps4 Spider-Man failed in one place to out do Web of shadows : The combat. Neither Miles Morales or Spider-Man ps4 has a better combat system than web of shadows
@@Dangangela6565 the combos you can do in Web of Shadows are leagues better than PS4. You can even keep pummeling your foes after they lose their health. Way better
@@hachelyd_i3232 which is the most un-spiderman thing ever. spider-man wouldn't beat on thugs he already captured he ain't daredevil. also the combat is way to zippy and cartoonish and would be terrible if they tried to put it in a realistic style game where combat is supposed to have weight and not be this comic book style weightless acrobatics
I agree with ur opinion, people say that it's supposed to look dark because the game is dark fail to understand that edge of time had a dark tone but Peter's suit looks light-hearted. Plus the city is dark and ugly, but heroes are supposed to save the city with their acts and bright costumes to give the innocent people hope, but WOS has the heroes look as ugly as the city.
The suit redesigns look really good. But I do think that the venom logo should be a bit smaller. It is a bit to big and the venom suit logo should be higher.
Personally, I don’t like the brighter suit. Maybe for the start of the game, but as the story gets darker, the more muddy the suit should get. I think it was a artistic choice cause of the more serious tone of the game. The one design I think looks weird is Venoms. Like I get what they were going for… but that suit is just ugh….
I like the brighter costume better because the eyes fit the depressed side of this Peter while the colors and the logo fit the jokey side of this Peter.
You had a similiar with the TASM2 suit of the red being too dark, but just like with that case, having a brighter red doesn't work with the tone or the aesthetic choice. I'm not saying your designs look bad, they look good, but they don't feel right within the context of this game. That's also why the small eyes for the black suit works so well, because it fits with his pissed off attitude in the game. Also the large logo works with the small logo, as the logo with this suit acts more like the blue on the classic suit, being a secondary colour, so it's not a case of looking at in contrast with the lense, but rather the location of the colour pallette. I like your venom, but I like the game one more for in game as it feels like an out of control venom, who's becoming more monster like, which it's logo design showed.
I don't have much of a problem with the designs (heck I'm a fan of the "ugly" art direction), but... your redesigns (I will admit) are a lot better. Along with Electro's design being S-Tier quality (especially when compared to the PS4 game.
I think they were going for a uniform aesthetic with the costumes and each character’s design is consistent with it. Like the less saturated normal suit and the navy blue on Wolverine’s costume. Each costume looks exactly like it could’ve jumped off the page but in a sort of uncanny valley way that aids in the construction of the creepy tone the game has.
Definitely love your redesign for Venom the most. His original logo looked more like a centipede than a spider, and the eyes made him look too much like some sort of sea monster or something
I agreed with every design take except the symbiote eyes, I would’ve made them the same. It gives him this pissed off or menacing look, idk. It looked badass imo, I think it was the legs on the spider logo that were too thick tbh.
if this game got a big budget and time like insomniac it would have been talked about to this day instead of living in the subconcious of kids who grew up in the 2000's
I completely agree. It's a game with great mechanics hindered by bad design, like everything looking like it's covered in gallons of oil. and also the horrible tutorials like "Use this new ability 30 times. Then go here. Then use it another 30 times.."
I disagree with your opinion on the spiderman suits in the game. The black suit having smaller eyes makes spiderman look mean and aggressive. And for the red and blue suit the spiders on the front and back look fine and the trees being thick helps it stand out. Lastly it having darker colors also fits with the tone. If it was brighter colors it wouldn't fit at all
dude, I totally agree with you. The author of the video could criticize the symbiotic suit, but the classic suit in this game is simply divine, the colors are chic, that blue and red, yes, there are problems with red on the PC, this is due to rendering and the fact that the developers apparently did not have time to make him the one red, which is in the game's trailers, and in the trailer, the suit destroys any other spider suit. I really like the back logo a lot, it's iconic and looks great, both the body of the spider and the legs (legs), yes, maybe not quite the perfect front emblem, but it's not that bad. And by the way, his costume redesign, in my opinion, is much worse than the game one, he said that red in the game is similar to orange, but in the end, in its redesign, it looks brighter and even more orange, so to speak (although in the redesign, red looks red and, in principle, its redesign is worthy).
At first I was like "What are you talking about the game looks fine" but then when you revealed you were using mods and showed what the game actually looks like I went "oh..."
One part of the design of Classic Spidey that's really solid but you missed is that his lenses look like he's pissed and looks like the OG Spidey suit lenses
@@mghost7742 I mean that’s your opinion and you are valid for having it but I believe personally his design is both a beautiful mix of new while also being an original look
6:20 THIS. This is where you got a problem. They're supposed to look like that, to match the environment. Making them super comic accurate would've made them completely off the tone. I do agree there's some truly bad choices on character models such as Venom's stupid head shape, but then they would have to be completely redone, because it's the only way to fix it. Making them brighter and with bigger features would've actually made them worse, because they would look too flat and silly in comparison to the background. PS.: It would give anyone a headache just staring at Spider-Man looking like a big untextured red spot on the screen.
I see where your coming from but I disagree about the Spider-Man suits. I love the pissed off, squinty-eyed look of both suits. It gives Spider-Man a more mature and gritty look to him and it really fits the tone of the overall game, same with his colors. In fact I personally really wish that we could see this more mature look more than just what's in this game and pieces of art from Alex Ross and Gabriel Delotto. My personal Spider-Man suit would for sure have a similar look to this if I had one, though I'd go for a more washed out blue and red.
I can't express to you guys how many hours I spent swinging around this city, scaling buildings, and throwing cars at innocent civilians! Not to mention directing fans at my face so I felt like I was swinging in the wind! Lol :D
@@jb3058 and he said that his was objectively better even though that's not true... the black suit looks like a true menace to society plus venoms logo is fine and is disorted because of venom mutating over time and was supposed to be different plus his redesign of the default looks so fucking bad... the red looks comically bad and the eyes of the black suit redesign is just ruins the look and his venom looks poo poo and doesn't look that much different
I personally don't mind the default designs. I do agree that they can be better but they don't bother me as much as they seem to bother you. I do however like and agree with your suggested changes especially for venom. The logo as a whole should be revamped tbh cause it's just all over the place. I myself played the game with mods. I preferred the Sam Raimi mods and think those fit the game kinda well Cool vid nice stuff
I see what you're saying lol but I don't think modern feels right in this game, because this game is supposed to be dark I like the design they make lol
Just curious, if Wolverine had his wrists bent like that when he extends his claws wouldn't they come out of his wrists instead of his hands? The claws don't bend unless a certain magnetically powered villain was involved.
The black suit having small eyes is perfect. This isn't your standard comic book Spider-Man game, this is an edgy, grittier version, so the black suit looking constantly pissed off and menacing works perfectly. Additionally, your rework for the red suit kinda takes away the edginess of the suit. Venom's biggest design issue in this game isn't the eyes or the logo. The eyes are fine, the problem is the size of his head in proportion to his body and the textures on said body. He's way too smooth, way too disproportionate, and your rework only really solves the logo. "Shut up, this is objectively better" Objectively: in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions. Use a dictionary once in a while, it'll make you look like an idiot less often. "I think the yellow and brown suit would've been better, since it would fit with the grungy aesthetic they were going for" This coming from the guy who thought the black suit's eyes were too small and the red suit wasn't bright enough.
The redesign look good I like the black suit also the original suit redesign is incredible I love Steve dinkos art it’s so awesome and to see you pay omogsh to it mwa chefs kiss
I respectfully disagree with you. I think the characters all like fine myself. Honestly, it just sounds like you're completely nitpicking. Spiderman and characters have been redesigned in so many games that it's not really that hard to believe that Venom would get a slight redesign here, especially since he's the main center of this game. Also It's an old game. Of course it's not gonna look that great by today's standards. It's for the Wii, what did you expect, PS5 graphics? Also, you really need to do something more productive with your time. Getting on youtube and complaining about a Wii era game not looking good is a complete waste of time. It's not going to make the game look any better. I know you're salty and all, but you need to let it go. As for the costumes only being in the Wii version... I was doing research on it, and I thought the costumes were in every version. If not, that is a really big hinderance, and I will definitely agree that is stupid.It's an old game. Of course it's not gonna look that great by today's standards.
@@Venom-Bell_420 I just don’t like the escort missions that count as your main way to get EXP in way that’s not just “web-strike like a hundred infected.”
@@MightyAverage I'm with ya there man. I HATE escort missions in basically ANY game. Especially in this one. We needed more bosses. The ones we had were ok, but too quick and easy. Didn't get enough of Venom either. Both Venom AND Carnage should've been the antagonists. Carnage wasn't even mentioned whatsoever
@@antonmaevski3823 No Shattered Dimensions classic suit has a more traditional spider emblem on the chest and back. Plus I like the messy webbing on the Edge of Time costume
@@antonmaevski3823 As much as I love it ill just classify it as my favorite classic redesign. Especially since there a lot of good designs on the Spider-Man PS4 game like scarlet Spider and 2099 for sure
I agree with everything said in this video BUT hear me out make the eyes on the classic suit bigger in width than it is truly perfect what? I just like big spoder men eyes
one of the things that bothers me the most about the designs in this game is that spideys symbiote suit is shaded purple while every other symbiote in the game is shaded blue. ik its just one of those little inconsistencies but its bothered me since like 2011
I always hated all the blue or purple shades it’s literally called the BLACK suit so just make it black spectacular spider-man gets it with both spider-man and venom
Yo electro? Dude cmon it looks like he has a pile of bananas in his face. I get that he is a broke dude. But cmon he has the power of electricity he could steal a costume that looks way better
I never had a problem with any of the character designs in Web of Shadows. The gameplay is just so fun that I didn’t think to complain about Spider-Man’s suits. You’re just nitpicking.
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I agree with most things you said, except the eyes in the black suit, I think they were designed that way to make Spidey look like he's constantly pissed off, which fits perfectly with this game's story
Same man
Yeah, most of the time I agree with him but he does have some bad takes lol
Exactly he’s always glaring when In the black suit since it’s him having a negative outlook on the world. Same with venoms symbol it’s distorted as venoms undergoing a mutation something the game hinges on
Yeah I only disagree with his takes on the spiderman suits. Like who focuses on the thickness of the webs or the spiders lol
yeah but the red and blue suit makes him look pissed off too
I respect your opinion, but I’ve never had a problem with the designs. I’ve personally always thought the designs fit the world they are in. The smaller eyes on the symbiote suit fit pretty well tbh, they make him look really mad and aggressive which is probably the most recognizable side effect of the symbiote in modern media, but then again it’s your opinion and I respect it. (The symbols do kinda bother me a bit though.)
nah u just trippin/weird
@@PathoRUclips yeah opinions right? Who needs them.
@@DukeofBurg Fuck opinion of a guy whose name is Face
@@PathoRUclips ok pathoyt LOL
@@DukeofBurg ok goofy
This game really deserves a remaster. Improved graphics, alternate costumes (maybe some new voice lines, but that’s probably asking too much)
wii ver had aternate costumes
“Where’s Cage and his search party?”
“GAH! You’re no help!”
Agreed on the voice lines. That Spidey voice is just… ROUGH
@@MightyAverageI think it'd be funny to allow you to use the old ones
remake*. It was RUSHED like MOST other spiderman games with CRAZY potential for some reason😭
Agreeeed^
I think having vibrant colors on Spider-man's suit wouldn't have worked well seeing as nothing goes well for him and results in him being tired and hopeless throughout the story. I personally think that many of the design choices that made this game "ugly" were ultimately made to work well with the story and I think things like the big Venom eyes and brighter Spider-man coloration would've been a bit much just for the sake of accuracy (although the logos on the two suits are pretty off-putting now I look at it).
Yeah. I understand where he's coming from, but I think they went with this approach because, well it's Peter Parker. He's always gonna be down of his luck. This gritty world wouldn't complement a vibrantly colored Spider-Man at all and I personally like the ruggedness of of the important characters, including Venom. It's a city overrun by massive hordes of symbiotes, not Disneyland or some whimsical fairy tale of a dashing savior in shining armor.
Which explains why it's like that from the literal first second of the game, of course.
That's true but his suit is supposed to contrast his dreary and mundane life the bright colors on his costume make him stand out aswell it would've worked perfect, it would make the heroes a symbol of hope in the symbiote invasion, They're supposed to stand out and not blend in with the world they're supposed to be heroes for the people.
You wrong about Venom's design, your redesign looks cleaner wich is the opposite of what Web of Shadows Venom is, he's a messy scary dark monster thats how he's portrayed throughout the game and the design fits that vibe perfectly
not really but nice try buddy
@@mihaimercenarul7467 yes really but nice try buddy
Exactly bro. He’s supposed to be a creepy alien monster
@@mihaimercenarul7467 it really does tho bud
Nah
The redesign looks good it just needs dirtier whites like the vanilla colors and it would be better
"has most realistic physics" proceeds to slide up a building
Average day in new york dawg
@@WyaSlay 😂😂😂
the web swinging and all the animations clipping through objects etc etc makes me cringe so hard when people try to say this game is better than spider-man ps4. the web swinging in web of shadows is worse than the web swinging in spider-man 3 and everyone knows 2 actually has the best web swinging of any spider-man game to date minus miles morales
@@bitchface235 yeah the games on the ps4 and spider-man 2 did it the best
Well if you were spiderman and coming out of the arc of your swing I don't see why you wouldn't scoot up the building with your momentum
i respect your opinion, and I can see why you feel that way. but as good as your redesigns are , i just don't think they would fit in "this" game. as someone else pointed out the black suit eyes being small is to make peter look pissed off, which is what he is 90% of the time in that suit in-game lol. and personally i just love how the classic suit looks like a slightly grungy ditko/classic spidey suit. the brighter red just feels out of place juxtaposed with the grittier nyc (pre and post symbiote invasion.) i do like your front logo change. and your venom redesign is fire tho. 10/10 vid my guy,
Keyword is saturation. You have to keep Color’s in similar amount of saturation.
The colours are ugly. It is way too washed out
@@deanshine5201 agreed.
@@deanshine5201 its supposed to look that way... just like prototype
@@deanshine5201 mf it's supposed to be ugly
My favorite part about the swinging in Web of Shadows if the fact that you can hear Peter breathing heavily when really pushing his speed while he swings.
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This game graphically didn't age well despite it's gameplay being pretty good
Really dude. If your gonna voice an opinion imply it, don't just say it's bad straight
@@morozpauchok5818 several years ago in the age of games with a grey and brown color palate and generally muddy textures yeah no one really paid attention to the visuals but with videos like this that point out the flaws with the general looks of characters and gaming in general taking a big leap in graphics yeah my point still stands
It didnt age badly the deisgns and color pallet just werent that good
@@sloppysilass3182 really just ignored how I was talking about the muddy textures and color pallette
Looks like prototype one graphics
I actually love Venom's design in this game. It's super alien looking and I love it.
I agree
My only problem with Venom is he isn't in the game enough
You know a game is good when you still want to play it even if it doesn’t look good anymore.
True star wars knights of the old republic looks fucking disgusting but its such a good game
@@hue_marlon727 Just give that game a proper remaster and raise the level cap and it would hold its own against modern games.
Electro’s suit design in this game is what I wished the insomniac games did. A good blend of grounded and comic accurate. I wasn’t a fan of the power armor/ plating they went for mostly all of the characters in the newer games
That “power armor” is his harness… Spider-Man deduced that Otto upgraded Electro’s harness in order for him to be close to “pure energy” as possible according to the PS4 game.
@@theunknownvoidz1409 I know there’s story reasons why they have it, I’m just saying I don’t like the look. It takes away a lot of the iconic imagery spidey’s villains have
@Psycho Shenanigans if it’s accurate then they complain of no originality lmao
@@austinbatton4849 well you’re barking at the wrong tree because that’s not me, and neither is what the other dude said.
@Psycho Shenanigans tbh I'd be fine if it wasn't comic accurate if it weren't for the fact that electro honestly had a forgettable design in the insomniac game
3:14
Venom: Has eyes spreading almost to the top of his head.
Uploader: HIS EYES ARE SO SMALL.
I think he's talking about the length of it ace attorney man
I actually love the aesthetic of the game, but I see where you are coming from. It’s a more
Dark and gritty spiderman game which I love about it.
Whilst your redesigns do look great in isolation, especially that modernized Ditko suit, I don't think they fit the tone of the game as much.
Yea and he's whining about the dark colors but fails to realize that this game IS DARK
@@Jamie007_N the problem is that it blends in, that's just bad character design and color theory
@@Jamie007_Nthe edge of time suit had a light hearted look despite the tone so you're pretty much wrong
I actually love the design of the red and blue suit, it has a menacing battle hardened look that really fits the the world it's set in with the skinny muscular body that makes Spidey feel strong and agile. Come to think of it, I love all the designs in this game including venom, they just have this serious aesthetic that I love
"Look at my screen"
Well actually it doesn't look that bad-
"I'm using mods"
small front logos on a spidey suit is a cardinal sin
Definitely disagree on the black suit eyes, I think it looks great for the black suit personally
Every other black suit: AHEEEEM!!!
"BrO ThIs gaMes is so GodDaMn uGly"
Me: absolutely jamming to the sonic unleashed music
Needs a remake desperately
Best combat though. As they advertised, I remembered fighting guys in the ground, then taking it to the air with air enemies, and then the wall. This game was insane and had amazing combat. The camera angles with the web strike was so sick, you could no even know what direction you’re in in the air, but it makes sense. I wish they make another game w the combat.
@@Dangangela6565 I fucking love that game and I haven’t played this one but from the limited amount I’ve seen…the combat seems better.
@@Dangangela6565 lmfao nooooo buddy. Ps4 Spider-Man failed in one place to out do Web of shadows : The combat. Neither Miles Morales or Spider-Man ps4 has a better combat system than web of shadows
@@Dangangela6565 the combos you can do in Web of Shadows are leagues better than PS4. You can even keep pummeling your foes after they lose their health. Way better
@@hachelyd_i3232 which is the most un-spiderman thing ever. spider-man wouldn't beat on thugs he already captured he ain't daredevil. also the combat is way to zippy and cartoonish and would be terrible if they tried to put it in a realistic style game where combat is supposed to have weight and not be this comic book style weightless acrobatics
@@hachelyd_i3232 Ps4 version is just a Arkham knight ripoff. They didn't even bother the combat system is a direct ripoff from the Arkham games
Genuinely the best design for Electro. By far. Usually not a fan of the classic mask but making it out of scrap metal looks really cool.
I agree with ur opinion, people say that it's supposed to look dark because the game is dark fail to understand that edge of time had a dark tone but Peter's suit looks light-hearted. Plus the city is dark and ugly, but heroes are supposed to save the city with their acts and bright costumes to give the innocent people hope, but WOS has the heroes look as ugly as the city.
The suit redesigns look really good. But I do think that the venom logo should be a bit smaller. It is a bit to big and the venom suit logo should be higher.
Personally, I don’t like the brighter suit. Maybe for the start of the game, but as the story gets darker, the more muddy the suit should get. I think it was a artistic choice cause of the more serious tone of the game. The one design I think looks weird is Venoms. Like I get what they were going for… but that suit is just ugh….
Very underated comment.(
I like the brighter costume better because the eyes fit the depressed side of this Peter while the colors and the logo fit the jokey side of this Peter.
You had a similiar with the TASM2 suit of the red being too dark, but just like with that case, having a brighter red doesn't work with the tone or the aesthetic choice. I'm not saying your designs look bad, they look good, but they don't feel right within the context of this game.
That's also why the small eyes for the black suit works so well, because it fits with his pissed off attitude in the game. Also the large logo works with the small logo, as the logo with this suit acts more like the blue on the classic suit, being a secondary colour, so it's not a case of looking at in contrast with the lense, but rather the location of the colour pallette.
I like your venom, but I like the game one more for in game as it feels like an out of control venom, who's becoming more monster like, which it's logo design showed.
What also triggers me about the normal suit are the eyes, I feel like they're placed way to high lol
Based off actual pendulum physics.
Also Spider-Man: 0:20
despite not looking the best, it was one of my favorites, remaster deserved
How dare u to call this ugly, this piece of gem shows how first gen spiderman game so great in his time.
I don't have much of a problem with the designs (heck I'm a fan of the "ugly" art direction), but... your redesigns (I will admit) are a lot better. Along with Electro's design being S-Tier quality (especially when compared to the PS4 game.
I think they were going for a uniform aesthetic with the costumes and each character’s design is consistent with it. Like the less saturated normal suit and the navy blue on Wolverine’s costume. Each costume looks exactly like it could’ve jumped off the page but in a sort of uncanny valley way that aids in the construction of the creepy tone the game has.
I honestly like the designs in the game, but that's just me
I couldn’t imagine if they somehow got the swinging physics into the next Spider-Man game so it doesn’t feel like your flying with cooler animations
Definitely love your redesign for Venom the most. His original logo looked more like a centipede than a spider, and the eyes made him look too much like some sort of sea monster or something
his original is supposed to be a messy dark monster... which is perfect and yes I stole those words for venom from a different comment
I think everything he's saying is actually why they look cool lol
I agreed with every design take except the symbiote eyes, I would’ve made them the same. It gives him this pissed off or menacing look, idk. It looked badass imo, I think it was the legs on the spider logo that were too thick tbh.
3:47 I think the small eyes make him look more serious/intimidating
if this game got a big budget and time like insomniac it would have been talked about to this day instead of living in the subconcious of kids who grew up in the 2000's
I completely agree. It's a game with great mechanics hindered by bad design, like everything looking like it's covered in gallons of oil. and also the horrible tutorials like "Use this new ability 30 times. Then go here. Then use it another 30 times.."
people just love to pretend that bad ugly things are good
its q good game, just looks kinda ugly
Just like people do with ok pretty games (Miles Morales. The original PS4 game had good qualities besides graphics and art style)
this was my favourite Spiderman game for years until the insomniac one came along.
That suit will forever just be the spiderman gmod skin to me.
he just silenced you 😭😭😭 4:09
nuh uh
I love most of your redesigns you Always put so much quality And hard work in your redesigns and I love it
4:15 these are indeed objectively better.
I loved ur luke cage description 😭 “big black man in yellow shirt and pants” got me wheezing 😭😭😭
I finished this game 3 times and I had the exact same amount of fun every single time
You didn’t wanna say nothing to lex Luther because you get hated on
I disagree with your opinion on the spiderman suits in the game. The black suit having smaller eyes makes spiderman look mean and aggressive. And for the red and blue suit the spiders on the front and back look fine and the trees being thick helps it stand out. Lastly it having darker colors also fits with the tone. If it was brighter colors it wouldn't fit at all
dude, I totally agree with you. The author of the video could criticize the symbiotic suit, but the classic suit in this game is simply divine, the colors are chic, that blue and red, yes, there are problems with red on the PC, this is due to rendering and the fact that the developers apparently did not have time to make him the one red, which is in the game's trailers, and in the trailer, the suit destroys any other spider suit. I really like the back logo a lot, it's iconic and looks great, both the body of the spider and the legs (legs), yes, maybe not quite the perfect front emblem, but it's not that bad. And by the way, his costume redesign, in my opinion, is much worse than the game one, he said that red in the game is similar to orange, but in the end, in its redesign, it looks brighter and even more orange, so to speak (although in the redesign, red looks red and, in principle, its redesign is worthy).
can you please post more. you're MORE than creative, i literally jump everytime i see ur posts man. POOOOSTTTT
the problem i had with the game is after you beat the story you cant play anymore
You can, you just have to watch the credits two times and then you can start a new game plus with all of your upgrades.
You can
@@KazzKobb WHAT
@@Empare1 YES
i honestly love the design you made for spider-man in this game
0:01 yeah me too man, it's to the point where me and WOS's relationship got further! We have a family!
Ok, its your opinion, you dont have to be......aggresive..
The character design is the only bad part about this game, i really don't understand what problem do they have with lenses.
You actually did a good job on improving the look
I didn’t realize the alternate suit feature was exclusive to the Wii! (I had the Wii version)
Same
Unmatched web swinging
*watches him struggle to webswing without getting stuck on the building and struggle with the camera*
At first I was like "What are you talking about the game looks fine" but then when you revealed you were using mods and showed what the game actually looks like I went "oh..."
One part of the design of Classic Spidey that's really solid but you missed is that his lenses look like he's pissed and looks like the OG Spidey suit lenses
Damn he’s shitting on my favorite Venom look but damn his venom redesign is better…
Not really it makes venom look like a dumb symbiot
@@mghost7742 I mean that’s your opinion and you are valid for having it but I believe personally his design is both a beautiful mix of new while also being an original look
@@georgebaynard4096 yeah I mean I'm not hating on it it just looks weird
@@mghost7742 no I get it
6:20
THIS. This is where you got a problem. They're supposed to look like that, to match the environment. Making them super comic accurate would've made them completely off the tone.
I do agree there's some truly bad choices on character models such as Venom's stupid head shape, but then they would have to be completely redone, because it's the only way to fix it.
Making them brighter and with bigger features would've actually made them worse, because they would look too flat and silly in comparison to the background.
PS.: It would give anyone a headache just staring at Spider-Man looking like a big untextured red spot on the screen.
I see where your coming from but I disagree about the Spider-Man suits. I love the pissed off, squinty-eyed look of both suits. It gives Spider-Man a more mature and gritty look to him and it really fits the tone of the overall game, same with his colors. In fact I personally really wish that we could see this more mature look more than just what's in this game and pieces of art from Alex Ross and Gabriel Delotto. My personal Spider-Man suit would for sure have a similar look to this if I had one, though I'd go for a more washed out blue and red.
What do you think of tasm 1 suit ?
I love those redesigns there super clean.
I can't express to you guys how many hours I spent swinging around this city, scaling buildings, and throwing cars at innocent civilians! Not to mention directing fans at my face so I felt like I was swinging in the wind! Lol :D
My man’s said “BOOM” and instantly I salivated. Definitely nailed it.
5:11 every kid in school: “RACIST”
While I love the og designs since I grew up playing this game, I actually LOVE your redesigns and think they would look awesome as a mod or remaster.
Bro really thought he was the authority on character design 💀
Bro what
Lame joke? He was voicing his opinion on redesigns that make the characters actually look good.
@@jb3058 and he said that his was objectively better even though that's not true... the black suit looks like a true menace to society plus venoms logo is fine and is disorted because of venom mutating over time and was supposed to be different plus his redesign of the default looks so fucking bad... the red looks comically bad and the eyes of the black suit redesign is just ruins the look and his venom looks poo poo and doesn't look that much different
@@godzillazfriction disagree very much
Giving opinions = Demanding authority?
Never thought I'd heard Windmill Isle as background music on these types of explanation videos.
I personally don't mind the default designs. I do agree that they can be better but they don't bother me as much as they seem to bother you. I do however like and agree with your suggested changes especially for venom. The logo as a whole should be revamped tbh cause it's just all over the place.
I myself played the game with mods. I preferred the Sam Raimi mods and think those fit the game kinda well
Cool vid nice stuff
Bro who hurt you😂, this shit was hella funny tho haha
I see what you're saying lol but I don't think modern feels right in this game, because this game is supposed to be dark I like the design they make lol
Just curious, if Wolverine had his wrists bent like that when he extends his claws wouldn't they come out of his wrists instead of his hands? The claws don't bend unless a certain magnetically powered villain was involved.
The black suit having small eyes is perfect. This isn't your standard comic book Spider-Man game, this is an edgy, grittier version, so the black suit looking constantly pissed off and menacing works perfectly. Additionally, your rework for the red suit kinda takes away the edginess of the suit.
Venom's biggest design issue in this game isn't the eyes or the logo. The eyes are fine, the problem is the size of his head in proportion to his body and the textures on said body. He's way too smooth, way too disproportionate, and your rework only really solves the logo.
"Shut up, this is objectively better"
Objectively: in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions. Use a dictionary once in a while, it'll make you look like an idiot less often.
"I think the yellow and brown suit would've been better, since it would fit with the grungy aesthetic they were going for"
This coming from the guy who thought the black suit's eyes were too small and the red suit wasn't bright enough.
Right this game show dark spider man story with two ends.
What's wrong with black cats design it's perfect
4:00 Made me laugh too much 😂😂😂
Bros the Spider-Man police
I'm sorry but ugliest spider-man game goes to either spider-man 3 or amazing Spider-man 2
tasm 2 looked very average for a 2014 game
@@Prosta_Gierka but it was a ps4 game, and now with marvel's spiderman for ps4 the game looks obsolete
The redesign look good I like the black suit also the original suit redesign is incredible I love Steve dinkos art it’s so awesome and to see you pay omogsh to it mwa chefs kiss
I respectfully disagree with you. I think the characters all like fine myself. Honestly, it just sounds like you're completely nitpicking. Spiderman and characters have been redesigned in so many games that it's not really that hard to believe that Venom would get a slight redesign here, especially since he's the main center of this game. Also It's an old game. Of course it's not gonna look that great by today's standards. It's for the Wii, what did you expect, PS5 graphics?
Also, you really need to do something more productive with your time. Getting on youtube and complaining about a Wii era game not looking good is a complete waste of time. It's not going to make the game look any better. I know you're salty and all, but you need to let it go.
As for the costumes only being in the Wii version... I was doing research on it, and I thought the costumes were in every version. If not, that is a really big hinderance, and I will definitely agree that is stupid.It's an old game. Of course it's not gonna look that great by today's standards.
I love this game, a remaster/remake would be perfect
I think the symbiote takeover portion of the game drags on for way too long, but the game is great overall and the mods are (mostly)incredible.
Thats my favorite part of the game man
The whole plot revolves around that. It's not called bloody web of sewers.
@@Venom-Bell_420 I just don’t like the escort missions that count as your main way to get EXP in way that’s not just “web-strike like a hundred infected.”
@@user-vp6cq4sv3d Gonna clarify, I don’t like the escort missions being some of the only out-of-story activities at that part of the game.
@@MightyAverage I'm with ya there man. I HATE escort missions in basically ANY game. Especially in this one. We needed more bosses. The ones we had were ok, but too quick and easy. Didn't get enough of Venom either. Both Venom AND Carnage should've been the antagonists. Carnage wasn't even mentioned whatsoever
I like how you fixed the suits in web of shadows and that make your own spider man video it gave me a idea to make my own spider man design
Is it just me or does Wolvie's face look really elongated / just stretched a *little* too much? I guess it's mostly because of the flatter cowl shape.
My favorite classic Spider-Man design is the Edge of Time costume since it basically looks like a realistic spectacular Spider-Man costume.
not shattered dimensions?
@@antonmaevski3823 No Shattered Dimensions classic suit has a more traditional spider emblem on the chest and back. Plus I like the messy webbing on the Edge of Time costume
@@GatoPerroReviews got it, Edge of time suit is your favorite spiderman suit ever or just your favorite classic suit?
@@antonmaevski3823 As much as I love it ill just classify it as my favorite classic redesign. Especially since there a lot of good designs on the Spider-Man PS4 game like scarlet Spider and 2099 for sure
@@GatoPerroReviews What do you think about the advanced suit in the PS4/PS5 game?
6:03 *Miles* Better heh
its stylized, not supposed to be super realistic
I agree with everything said in this video BUT hear me out make the eyes on the classic suit bigger in width than it is truly perfect
what? I just like big spoder men eyes
“Best web swinging” laughs in insomniac Spider-Man
one of the things that bothers me the most about the designs in this game is that spideys symbiote suit is shaded purple while every other symbiote in the game is shaded blue. ik its just one of those little inconsistencies but its bothered me since like 2011
Well if you combine blue and red you get purple
I always hated all the blue or purple shades it’s literally called the BLACK suit so just make it black spectacular spider-man gets it with both spider-man and venom
Yo electro? Dude cmon it looks like he has a pile of bananas in his face. I get that he is a broke dude. But cmon he has the power of electricity he could steal a costume that looks way better
3:34 this goes hard
I would love a remaster of this game, hope Insomniac take some mechanic of this game to put in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 (for the Symbiote suit)
I never had a problem with any of the character designs in Web of Shadows. The gameplay is just so fun that I didn’t think to complain about Spider-Man’s suits. You’re just nitpicking.
I does look ugly though
Venom's model looks like he's about to give you a biiiig hug.
2:49
^ Wait that’s a thing🤔
The sonic unleashed music while describing a spider-man game got me geekin bruh