Chopsy you just answered the question why I've kept my Firestorm for so long. A big v twin with just over 100bhp but usable torque and easily accessible power. You aren't chasing revs and it gives the illusion of being more powerful. Sounds like your KTM is similarly tuned. Re the pikes peak. A friend of mine has recently purchased the v4 after a couple of years with the twin. He quite likes it!
I had a 1997 Firestorm. Sold it in 2000 and am still regretting it. I've had many bikes since then, an at the moment a 2007 BMW R1200GS and a 2016 RnineT in the garage. It's only since owning the RnineT that I'm not missing that wonderful Firestorm. They are very similar in power delivery and handling.
Why are there not loads of bikes like this, so few of us ride off road.. Well done KTM.. it even looks good with that head light.. This bike is made for you chops..
I’ve owned an 06 KTM 950 SM for the last 15 years and can relate completely to this review. It’s old school analogue and I sometimes think about trading it in but I just cant come at it. It’s a keeper. There are times when I head out with adventure bikes and when we hit the dirt, it’s doable but I do feel wanting with the small front wheel even with mt60rs Pirellis. Then we get back on the twisty bitumen and all is forgiven.
890 Adventure. Full adjustable Andreani fork cartridges, Tractive Suspension fully adjustable with Hi/Lo speed compression and a hydraulic preload adjuster v the mechanical OEM one. 17" SMPro wheels, tubeless spoked, 3.5 front, 5.5 rear. M9RR tyres, Rottweiler airbox with Powercommander 6 and two maps. Decatted, Remus pipe, evap can removed, lithium battery, Brembo Stylemas on Brembo Serie Oro rotors, Brembo RCS master cylinder. It goes...on trackdays, touring Europe fully loaded. Weighs about 187 kg. 113 bhp allegedly. I like my 20 litre ballbags. 300+ mile range and keeps my feet sheltered on tour. SMT R? I've had one for two years.😂
Dont know a great deal about kTM. Reliability would be my concern and the after sales service, No, don't think you're day, was a productive one, broken glasses and a camera 😢,
Rode several KTMs, My first bike was a 640 DUke, and I've had a 1290 Super Duke R< 890 Duke R, 390 Adventure, and also rode RC390, 390 DUke, 790 Adventure and 690 SMC R and 690 Enduro R, and the 690 Duke. Every one of those bikes had me smiling the whole ride!, everytime! I loved the earlier KTM supermotos, and the earlier SMT, and frankly, I am so happy they've made this, that I may have to get one? (I was looking at Hypermotard 950, but this is funlooking!)
Someone has done it before - Ducati’s Multi 950. And the S has electronic Skyhook suspension. I had the S for two years, flawless bike. Not one issue in 20k kms.
The one problem with the 890smt, is the fact that we had a 990smt which made 115hp 100nm of torque, and had a proper v-twin lc8. Brembos aswell, it seems the 890 is a cheaper made version of the old 990
I rode a Gilera Nordwest once, a mate wanted go on my new exup (back in the day) we were in French alps riding back from Bol Dor . I absolutely loved riding the nordwest , admittedly we were on mountain roads ,but what a laugh that was to ride. Part of reason I bought a pikes peak v4 last year,and after doing 9000 miles in last 10 months on the v4 I’m soooo glad I did. I think that KTM 890 SMT is spot on, need more bikes like this , adventure /supermoto with 17 inc wheels are mental. Great vid. 👍👍.
just bought myself a second ktm690 enduro 2023 which is an absolute blast on A/B roads, Middleweights is where it's at for me, there seems a gap for edgy exciting stuff like this, built for a bigger / taller rider, none of us are getting any younger! The perfect hooligan do it all bike for 2023, nice one KTM. 50 year olds balll bags, its a good shout, my wife would be in complete agreement!!
I always really liked the look and the idea of the 990 SMT. I'm glad they 'waited' to bring this thing out, until after I'd bought the 1090 Adventure. Otherwise I might have put myself into some financial discomfort to get one! Definitely proposes an exciting option for us on the 'larger' side! Nice work Chopsy. Sorry about the camera! PS, all ads fully watched! 😘
Got one love it Sat watching this while mine is being serviced. This bike does not need the 890 r engine imo, most people dont even use all the horsepower anyway
I am 5ft 8i inches tall nd way in at a whopping 160 pounds.I can't get enough of my 890, by far the best machine I have ever owned.There are no superlatives available to describe how good this machine is.
Took one out again today while my Superduke was serviced, went back and put suspension in sport (all clickers on 5 clicks out) and it’s way better. The standard settings are too soft, so if your considering one, demo it in those settings.
I took one out for a test today an knew it was special before I'd even left Colwyn Bay Motorcycles forecourt. The next 70 miles over the Crimea pass and back was a revelation. Easily the best handling bike I've ever ridden. I'd have to throw a sheet over it in the garage tho if I owned it or only approach with my eyes closed 🤣🤣
I am enjoying your videos. I like your style and enthusiasm. I am a 790R owner with 30,000 klms and love the KTM parallel twin. Shame you have no gravel roads or desert to test a bike because it adds another dimension to the review and makes them relevant to Australia/USA. You should leave blighty!
I agree with you about great middle-weight bikes . I had a 2012 Triumph street triple r that I loved, but at 6'1" I looked like I was on a kids bike. This looks like a bike that will fit me much better.
@@davidwales9657 The best way to put it would rather be: you prefer your Triumph over the KTM. I'm sorry but I can't figure out how a 675 Street Triple could be better than a 890 R Especially in the engine department 🤣🤣🤣
@@davidwales9657I've owned a 675R and a 890R and also a CP3 engined Tracer GT , still currently own the last 2. The engine is so much better on both the 890R and the Tracer. I loved my 675R but when I tried the others it was sold quickly. The newer 765R is much better but even then doesn't compare with the mid range and bottom end grunt out of corners from the 890R. To release all the power you have to have wheelie control off as it really holds it back in gears 1 and 2 as it wants to come up on the throttle constantly. With WC on you would only get full power in 3rd. The 890R engine is unbelievable for a muffle weight. It also puts to shame both other bikes for fuel consumption even after having them re mapped. There is only 1 downside to the 890R engine and that is servicing costs in comparison to the others with 3 oil filters and KTMS pricing its is exspensive. I'll be selling both my Tracer GT and 890R when the SMTR comes out.
@@CharlieboySLONDON I owned the first iteration of the MT-09 Tracer before my 675. I feel like the only thing that the MT-09 and 890 engines have over the 675 is just the power and torque numbers. Sure they pull harder, but the throttle response and sound of the 675 just does it for me so much more than the other two. I just didn't care that the 890 pulled hard, i just found the way it come onto the power, and the gearbox, so unpleasant it ruined it for me
Ooh, Chopsy. You were lucky with that orange tractor-trailer combo overtake, my friend! If a car had pulled out right, you'd of been bonnet-surfing! Always run Waze vi a detachable on the test-bike bars, so that you can at least get a heads-up of the side turnings on blind overtakes. Keep it sunny side up! 👍
Thats the first bike video in a long time that made me laugh. You remind me of me , leaving your glasses behind. Great video, great riding and lovely bike. If only we could have 3 or 4 bikes in the garage!
Awesome vid as always big man, keen to see some more on this bike. A few questions and thoughts: why is it that - just like you mentioned - there are no more bikes such as this? I've heard people say that a bike like the SMT is too niche, it will be loved by only a selected few and most people will consider it a jack of all trades that's not particularly good at anything. Also, just as interesting (if not more) to see if there will be an R version, could this be the platform for the rumoured return of the legendary Husqvarna Nuda...?? 🤔
Been eagerly awaiting your take on this bike…did not disappoint! Just picked up another 701, but this sounds like it ticks all the same boxes with more power, better seat, and some wind protection. Can’t wait to see the day trip vid!
I've had a go on both a 1260 Multistrada and a V2, and it's the same bike, the V2 is not significantly lighter but the engine is a lot blander, not bad but if you're there you might aswell buy a slightly older 1260 or 1200 instead of a 950/V2, but then if the 1200/1260 is too big for you then the 890 SMT is MUCH MUCH lighter and more agile. The V2 is a whale by comparison.
@@LambChopRides I'm fortunate to have the fun and commuting stuff largely covered with other bikes...no real touring option though atm. I'll wait to watch your longer day test and then book up some test rides I think 👍
So did you buy one? And I didn’t see you use any insta360 footage in either of your 890 SMT vids? Love the bike..never thought I’d prefer a middleweight to a full power bike..
At 15:45-ish, you ask why there hasn't been a bike like this before. IMO, the Yamaha Tracer 9, with the semi-active suspension, 17" sticky-ish wheels, and upright seating, fits that box quite well. Any thoughts?
Hi Chops, nice to see your enthusiasm about the 890 SMT. I wonder how different the bike is compared to my 990 SMT. I'm burning the rubber off it in Germany atm, but if your close to the Netherlands one day and still want to try the 990 SMT you can take mine for a spin.
This bike will be a winner as there are a lot of bikers looking at middleweight bike. Sports bike not popular anymore and heavyweight tourers are to much to lug about. We all want a light middleweight bike that handles and is comfortable to ride. And this looks the be the business for sure. Great video as usual and you allow say how it is. Thanks chops👍👍
100% agree - as long as it has enough power (and more importantly) torque, to excite someone coming off a sports or hypernaked, to entice them. Need to have proper decent suspension too, which is where this and the 890R are ticking the boxes! :)
Dam choppsie , I was loving this untill you started talking about the R version possibility or lack there of ,wouldn't it be a super weapon if they put all the Duke R bits on it ? Haha never mind I'll stick to the 701 for now , cheers
Another great bike in the mix. KTM covering a lot of bases, pretty sure an R will turn up . If it does I’m sure it will sell quicker than Cornish Pasties. Great video Chops.
Waiting for my local dealership to have a demo bike available. For now, I'll stick with my 2019 790Adv with its 19" front and 17" rear (1090 wheels). 35,000 miles on the clock now. It's doing well 👍
Im also waiting for a SMTR , I currently have a 890R and a Tracer GT and this would be the perfect single bike if it had the R hardware. Also on my 890R i can have slip angle and TCS activated whilst having wheelie control off. Surely this is doable on this ? I really would like an R version in the garage asap but i waited over a year for 890R to come out after the 790 so looks like ill be waiting a while. Will also be interested to see if Yamaha do a Super tenere with the Cp3 engine and SM set up.
Anyone skating berating this bike for its “Parts Bin” aesthetics, has to ride one!! I’ve just had one for an hour and it’s bonkers!! Feels like it has huge torque and I stepped off of a 1290 SDR. Extremely comfy seat and so nimble. Needs a screen for the motorway as it’s a lot more turbulent than my 1290.
Looks absolutely shocking....they got to the clay model part i think and just pushed it into a wall... KTM design dept: "Fuck it lads...that'll do...."
@@LambChopRides I agree....i like KTM's style...i love the 1290 Superduke - probably one of the best looking naked's out there....RC8 (lovely) - all of their supermoto range - great...no problems there but, they throw in an ugly duckling/curveball and this one is it for me...kinda like that 690 they did about 10 years back....that was a honker as well...
Chopsy, just after you lost your camera. Coincidentally a RUclips ad popped up. Normally I hit "skip ad" as quickly as I can. But after your comment that we need to watch the ads so that you get as much money as possible to replace the insta360, I watched the whole ad. Fortunately the ad was for the new Guardians of the Galaxy movie, which I'm very much looking forward to watching, and the ad was very funny. So it's a win win. Keep up the good work.😀
Great bike, if it's anything like the 990 I had.WP suspension is just brilliant. But, what is the point of that hideous white "beak" thing? What's wrong with a normal guard?
Where has a bike like this been you ask? Ducati Hypermotard! I have a proper 450 sumo but the Hyper gives me ability to do sumo antics and go pretty far. The 450 it has to be on kart track or super tight twists for it to be enjoyable. The hyper vtwin is amazing and it looks amazing unlike the horrible bug-orange ktm.
Interesting bike & first impression. I can see this very much suiting you Chops. I imagine you'd also find some of that lost power too. I think there's a good chance KTM will do an R version as is their way but could be a year or two & do you want to wait for something that may not happen? Also noticed your ZX10 comment. Oh dear.
I don’t need fish eye views 360 cams vieW of you, just a good stable view out the front that shows the cockpit, a good walk around and that’s it. All you guys need to get over your selves……😎🇨🇦good vid!
As an SMT'er ( Supermoto Tourer ) myself, I bought the Aprilia Dorsoduro 900 based on your response to it a few ago... and it was/is a 'lovely' bike as you said. Western Canada is the place for these Chops ;)
Damn you Chops. Stop saying you don't want to take your adventure bike off road. I've had heaps of sportsbikes and never taken them on track, and my GS will never go off road either. RIP camera and glasses.... I watched the adverts this time 😂 Looks like KTM have another winner there. I'll get my test ride booked.
Pulled over on the M20 as I forgot to put in my earplugs, put my bins on the fuel tank when I took off my lid, put the lid back on and realised I hadn't put my bins back on, interesting ride home lol
How do you find jumping on something like the SMT after a sportsbike? I've ridden sportyish bikes all my life, current bike is an RC8 which I've had since 2010!! I once briefly test rode the 990SMT and it felt big, squidgy and a bit gutless after jumping straight off the RC8.... love the idea of the SMT and really interested in the new one, since I'm tall and no spring chicken any more.
Doing so well KTM. Love it! This was going to be my next bike, right up until the traction control must be switched off every start. That's a big no from me!! Sorry guys, I had 7 new ktm's, but my traction control has just spat me off.
Great review on a cool bike. Thought I would let the video run again with full adverts as it might help you with ad revenue. Glasses and camera one day, what a nightmare
Great review,.. think i might be chopping in my smcr , has it room for a pillion ? The mrs comes out with me on short trips but the smcr seat aint very accomodating for her ample airbags i end up sitting nearly on the headstock !!
I had a 06’ 950 SM for a year and it was the most wheelie happy motorcycle I ever rode, too bad I sold it because I thought it wasn’t fast enough smh I’m gonna just buy another or 990 SMR if I can find one lol
How do you find the bike compares to the Hypermotard? I love the engine, playfulness and position of the Hype, but wish it were less painful for longer trips or motorway. Why Ducati ever stopped the Hyperstrada is a mystery. I like the idea of this, although find it an unattractive bike, and wish it wasn't a parallel
I’m seriously lusting after one of these. Does it make ANY sense to have this AND a Super Duke?🤔 I dont want a GS or Super Adventure, i just want that riding position on a bike that is fun and chuckable…
Changing brake pads does wonders for the Jjuan brake. I change mine to Brembo pads on my Duke and EBC HH pads on my Norden. Very happy with the brakes after that
Test rode it recently and didn't get on with it. Tall rounders are not for me even though I'm 6ft 1in. I prefer something lower to ground for inherently better handling. Also wished they had used the 890 Duke engine, which I've tried on a test ride of the 890 Duke and much prefer. The SMT's engine has that initial shove but runs out of revs too soon and you need to change gear far too quickly. I prefer to be able to rev an engine out and was constantly hitting the rev limiter. Not an issue on the 890 Duke. Also was surprised that the seat was a bit too wide and splayed my legs out too much so that when standing on an incline, it was a stretch to get my feet onto the ground. Finally although their was no wind buffeting, the wind noise was shockingly bad at much more than 50mph, even though I wore earplugs.
Well, that was an incident-packed ride, you're in good company though, Usernamekate has just smashed her Insta360 X3 up, as well. I bought an Insta360 X3 a few months ago, but I ordered the metal cage and lens guards to go with it, and I'm glad I did, because it can work out bloody expensive! I had a Yamaha Ténéré 700, I liked most aspects, and it was a good bike, but I found it way too top-heavy, with a very high centre of gravity. I sold it and went back to a sports bike, and I'm much happier, but the KTM 890 SMT looks like a very interesting option with its 17" inch wheels. 👍
Only 3 questions. Supermoto, but without the Brembo's (like the 890r). And tourer, but with super sticky tyres, that won't get you much touring? And priced at nearly £1000 more than the 890r which has top notch suspension and brakes. 🧐
You’re absolutely right I think. SMT are a niche of their own (that would explain the tires, if you have ever ridden the old SMT you’ll get that part). But the pricing is wrong considering the lower quality peripherals compared to the Duke R.
Brakes are actually very good, just missing the bling and name. It's priced inline with the 890 adventure that's where they get the 12,500 from. Tyres wear wasn't too bad, those Michelin GP (I think they were) are dual compound so harder centre to give some distance.
My main issue with modern KTMs aside from the 'will there wont there be an R' and the whole demo mode thing.. is knowing the models only hang around for a year or 2 max before theyre changed. I wouldn't be surprised if they bump this up to a 990SMT in 2024 which will hurt residual values of the 890
Of all the bikes I’ve seen you own and review, including your guest stint at PB, I’d (presumptuously) nominate the 890SMT as the ideal bike for you. Might be half the price of the Pikes Peak but I bet it’s more fun on the road. BTW, KTM made a v-twin 990 SMT back in the day when they had the 990 SuperDuke/R & Adventure. If I wasn’t an old bugger and a 5’7” midget I’d have an 890 SMT in a heartbeat.
I dropped my glasses once on the road, luckily no damage done, until I bent down to pick them up, misplaced my foot on top of them and dragged the lenses across the tarmac. I feel your pain!
As an 890 Adventure R owner, I have to say the SM-T has the most comfortable seat of the all the 790/890 KTMs.
Chopsy you just answered the question why I've kept my Firestorm for so long. A big v twin with just over 100bhp but usable torque and easily accessible power. You aren't chasing revs and it gives the illusion of being more powerful. Sounds like your KTM is similarly tuned. Re the pikes peak. A friend of mine has recently purchased the v4 after a couple of years with the twin. He quite likes it!
I had a 1997 Firestorm. Sold it in 2000 and am still regretting it.
I've had many bikes since then, an at the moment a 2007 BMW R1200GS and a 2016 RnineT in the garage.
It's only since owning the RnineT that I'm not missing that wonderful Firestorm. They are very similar in power delivery and handling.
Why are there not loads of bikes like this, so few of us ride off road.. Well done KTM.. it even looks good with that head light.. This bike is made for you chops..
Vstrom (except DE models), Tracer 7/9, BMW XR, Multistrada v2, Versys and some others... road "adv" / trail bikes already exist
I've had mine a couple of weeks now and loving it . I had a 701 before this loved that but this is another level.
I’ve owned an 06 KTM 950 SM for the last 15 years and can relate completely to this review. It’s old school analogue and I sometimes think about trading it in but I just cant come at it. It’s a keeper. There are times when I head out with adventure bikes and when we hit the dirt, it’s doable but I do feel wanting with the small front wheel even with mt60rs Pirellis. Then we get back on the twisty bitumen and all is forgiven.
Just can't think of selling mine, ever!
890 Adventure. Full adjustable Andreani fork cartridges, Tractive Suspension fully adjustable with Hi/Lo speed compression and a hydraulic preload adjuster v the mechanical OEM one. 17" SMPro wheels, tubeless spoked, 3.5 front, 5.5 rear. M9RR tyres, Rottweiler airbox with Powercommander 6 and two maps. Decatted, Remus pipe, evap can removed, lithium battery, Brembo Stylemas on Brembo Serie Oro rotors, Brembo RCS master cylinder.
It goes...on trackdays, touring Europe fully loaded. Weighs about 187 kg. 113 bhp allegedly.
I like my 20 litre ballbags. 300+ mile range and keeps my feet sheltered on tour. SMT R? I've had one for two years.😂
Love the enthusiasm of your videos Chopsy. My favourite biker channel. I watched it twice to help fund your new camera and glasses.
Thanks David 👍 😁😁
I’m hoping that KTM bring out an R version next year. As long a the seat height isn’t ridiculous, I will be buying it
Couldn’t agree more ! This ticks a lot of boxes , an R model would be very tempting .
Am am 176cm tall (5'9") I tested it here in Belgium and the seat hight is great. Suspension feels awesome.
Agreed - give me the Brembos and suspension upgrades and it will be on my list!
Dont know a great deal about kTM.
Reliability would be my concern and the after sales service,
No, don't think you're day, was a productive one,
broken glasses and a camera 😢,
Being 6'5", I want a ridiculous seat height!
Rode several KTMs, My first bike was a 640 DUke, and I've had a 1290 Super Duke R< 890 Duke R, 390 Adventure, and also rode RC390, 390 DUke, 790 Adventure and 690 SMC R and 690 Enduro R, and the 690 Duke. Every one of those bikes had me smiling the whole ride!, everytime! I loved the earlier KTM supermotos, and the earlier SMT, and frankly, I am so happy they've made this, that I may have to get one? (I was looking at Hypermotard 950, but this is funlooking!)
This is the first KTM that’s got my attention. Now to start saving up for one 😅
Someone has done it before - Ducati’s Multi 950. And the S has electronic Skyhook suspension. I had the S for two years, flawless bike. Not one issue in 20k kms.
Good bikes but servicing costs are ridiculous.
The one problem with the 890smt, is the fact that we had a 990smt which made 115hp 100nm of torque, and had a proper v-twin lc8. Brembos aswell, it seems the 890 is a cheaper made version of the old 990
Or just more upto date and better?
@@korma9732 nah
@@kbeightyseven1783 yeah, the 990 is past it's best. Old and lardy.
I rode a Gilera Nordwest once, a mate wanted go on my new exup (back in the day) we were in French alps riding back from Bol Dor . I absolutely loved riding the nordwest , admittedly we were on mountain roads ,but what a laugh that was to ride. Part of reason I bought a pikes peak v4 last year,and after doing 9000 miles in last 10 months on the v4 I’m soooo glad I did. I think that KTM 890 SMT is spot on, need more bikes like this , adventure /supermoto with 17 inc wheels are mental. Great vid. 👍👍.
Thanks Craig and I agree! 👍
Agreed!!! :)
20 year old ball bags!!?? Great vid as always Chopsy! And the glasses just tops it off! 🤣
just bought myself a second ktm690 enduro 2023 which is an absolute blast on A/B roads, Middleweights is where it's at for me, there seems a gap for edgy exciting stuff like this, built for a bigger / taller rider, none of us are getting any younger! The perfect hooligan do it all bike for 2023, nice one KTM.
50 year olds balll bags, its a good shout, my wife would be in complete agreement!!
I always really liked the look and the idea of the 990 SMT. I'm glad they 'waited' to bring this thing out, until after I'd bought the 1090 Adventure. Otherwise I might have put myself into some financial discomfort to get one! Definitely proposes an exciting option for us on the 'larger' side! Nice work Chopsy. Sorry about the camera! PS, all ads fully watched! 😘
Your a legend thanks very much Andy 👍
@AndyManCam Well.... I spot a possible opportunity then.... no.... ? ;) :p :D
Ads not skipped!😄 Hope the replacement gear isn't too expensive. Thanks for the review Chopsy, another good one.
Thanks buddy 😁👍
Ducati hyperstrada 821 and 939 two of the best bikes I've have!
Got one love it
Sat watching this while mine is being serviced.
This bike does not need the 890 r engine imo, most people dont even use all the horsepower anyway
I'm putting my Buell Ulysses back on the road soon. 1200cc, 193 kg dry. The most underrated bike ever.
I am 5ft 8i inches tall nd way in at a whopping 160 pounds.I can't get enough of my 890, by far the best machine I have ever owned.There are no superlatives available to describe how good this machine is.
Gonna be my test bike when the SDr gets its first service in a few weeks, looking forward to it. Great vid man.
Took one out again today while my Superduke was serviced, went back and put suspension in sport (all clickers on 5 clicks out) and it’s way better.
The standard settings are too soft, so if your considering one, demo it in those settings.
I took one out for a test today an knew it was special before I'd even left Colwyn Bay Motorcycles forecourt. The next 70 miles over the Crimea pass and back was a revelation. Easily the best handling bike I've ever ridden. I'd have to throw a sheet over it in the garage tho if I owned it or only approach with my eyes closed 🤣🤣
Great review Chopsy.... looks like a load of fun!
I am enjoying your videos. I like your style and enthusiasm. I am a 790R owner with 30,000 klms and love the KTM parallel twin. Shame you have no gravel roads or desert to test a bike because it adds another dimension to the review and makes them relevant to Australia/USA. You should leave blighty!
I agree with you about great middle-weight bikes . I had a 2012 Triumph street triple r that I loved, but at 6'1" I looked like I was on a kids bike. This looks like a bike that will fit me much better.
The 890 engine will disappoint you after the 675. I test rode the 890 duke r, and ended up just keeping my 675 str because its so much better
@@davidwales9657 The best way to put it would rather be: you prefer your Triumph over the KTM. I'm sorry but I can't figure out how a 675 Street Triple could be better than a 890 R Especially in the engine department 🤣🤣🤣
@@moulip to each their own. Have you ridden the 675?
@@davidwales9657I've owned a 675R and a 890R and also a CP3 engined Tracer GT , still currently own the last 2. The engine is so much better on both the 890R and the Tracer. I loved my 675R but when I tried the others it was sold quickly. The newer 765R is much better but even then doesn't compare with the mid range and bottom end grunt out of corners from the 890R. To release all the power you have to have wheelie control off as it really holds it back in gears 1 and 2 as it wants to come up on the throttle constantly. With WC on you would only get full power in 3rd. The 890R engine is unbelievable for a muffle weight. It also puts to shame both other bikes for fuel consumption even after having them re mapped. There is only 1 downside to the 890R engine and that is servicing costs in comparison to the others with 3 oil filters and KTMS pricing its is exspensive. I'll be selling both my Tracer GT and 890R when the SMTR comes out.
@@CharlieboySLONDON I owned the first iteration of the MT-09 Tracer before my 675. I feel like the only thing that the MT-09 and 890 engines have over the 675 is just the power and torque numbers. Sure they pull harder, but the throttle response and sound of the 675 just does it for me so much more than the other two. I just didn't care that the 890 pulled hard, i just found the way it come onto the power, and the gearbox, so unpleasant it ruined it for me
I like this. But yeah, the R would be worth waiting for.
I didn’t skip the ads ti help the cause 👍
You star thanks! 😁👍
First time ever not skipping the ads!
Better luck for next time.😊
Thank you so much 😀
Ooh, Chopsy. You were lucky with that orange tractor-trailer combo overtake, my friend! If a car had pulled out right, you'd of been bonnet-surfing! Always run Waze vi a detachable on the test-bike bars, so that you can at least get a heads-up of the side turnings on blind overtakes. Keep it sunny side up! 👍
Thats the first bike video in a long time that made me laugh. You remind me of me , leaving your glasses behind. Great video, great riding and lovely bike. If only we could have 3 or 4 bikes in the garage!
Awesome vid as always big man, keen to see some more on this bike.
A few questions and thoughts: why is it that - just like you mentioned - there are no more bikes such as this? I've heard people say that a bike like the SMT is too niche, it will be loved by only a selected few and most people will consider it a jack of all trades that's not particularly good at anything. Also, just as interesting (if not more) to see if there will be an R version, could this be the platform for the rumoured return of the legendary Husqvarna Nuda...?? 🤔
That's a rumour I like the sound of!
Let's hope so! 🤞
Oh look, its the new CFM Moto 890 ! :D
After seeing the cf-moto NK800 I cant wait for their version.
@@RupeWilson :D :D :D a lot of bot action going on on cfm moto videos, not surprised.
Been eagerly awaiting your take on this bike…did not disappoint! Just picked up another 701, but this sounds like it ticks all the same boxes with more power, better seat, and some wind protection. Can’t wait to see the day trip vid!
How many TicToc adverts do I need to watch to pay for your new camera?? 😂
Good vid mate, love that new KTM SMT ❤
Haha lots 😆👍
I've got to test this I sat on it at motorcycle live is super comfy 👌 I love the looks and them 17in wheels are perfect 😊
Chopsy, if you were looking for a bike which was for 60% touring, 20% fun and 20% commuting, would you go for this or a Multistrada V2?
I've had a go on both a 1260 Multistrada and a V2, and it's the same bike, the V2 is not significantly lighter but the engine is a lot blander, not bad but if you're there you might aswell buy a slightly older 1260 or 1200 instead of a 950/V2, but then if the 1200/1260 is too big for you then the 890 SMT is MUCH MUCH lighter and more agile. The V2 is a whale by comparison.
@@AntaresSQ01 interesting, thanks, sounds like a good excuse for some test rides...
Yeah SMT would run rings around the V2 imo.. more weather protection on the V2 mind
@@LambChopRides I'm fortunate to have the fun and commuting stuff largely covered with other bikes...no real touring option though atm. I'll wait to watch your longer day test and then book up some test rides I think 👍
thanks for the review. love it!
feel sorry for the glasses and camera lol. unlucky!
So did you buy one? And I didn’t see you use any insta360 footage in either of your 890 SMT vids? Love the bike..never thought I’d prefer a middleweight to a full power bike..
At 15:45-ish, you ask why there hasn't been a bike like this before. IMO, the Yamaha Tracer 9, with the semi-active suspension, 17" sticky-ish wheels, and upright seating, fits that box quite well. Any thoughts?
Yup it's certainly in the same category, think it won't be quite as aggressive though.. not sure never tried a Tracer.. better sort that out 👍
Mk1 Multistrada is the same principle
Tracer9 feels way wider to sit and ride. Its like a bus compared with this. I drove them on a course right after each other.
Hi Chops, nice to see your enthusiasm about the 890 SMT. I wonder how different the bike is compared to my 990 SMT. I'm burning the rubber off it in Germany atm, but if your close to the Netherlands one day and still want to try the 990 SMT you can take mine for a spin.
Really like the look of that bike,great video.👍🏻
Great review. Had days like that dropping stuff, I put it down to over enthusiasm 😂
I need to save up for one of those insta 360s. Love tour videos mate
This bike will be a winner as there are a lot of bikers looking at middleweight bike. Sports bike not popular anymore and heavyweight tourers are to much to lug about. We all want a light middleweight bike that handles and is comfortable to ride. And this looks the be the business for sure. Great video as usual and you allow say how it is. Thanks chops👍👍
Thanks buddy 100% agree! 👍
100% agree - as long as it has enough power (and more importantly) torque, to excite someone coming off a sports or hypernaked, to entice them. Need to have proper decent suspension too, which is where this and the 890R are ticking the boxes! :)
Wait for the R version to come out 👍
with the switches from the Superduke gen3 please
Chopsie, I believe in you, you can afford the pikes peak like I did, still gotta sell the tuono and 690 😅
I pulled the pin on one of these a few days ago.. Should pick it up in Feb.. I am super excited.......😁😁😁😁😁
Brilliant!! 👍
I believe in track mode you can separate the traction control & wheelie.. well you 100% can on the 890r duke..
Dam choppsie , I was loving this untill you started talking about the R version possibility or lack there of ,wouldn't it be a super weapon if they put all the Duke R bits on it ? Haha never mind I'll stick to the 701 for now , cheers
Thanks Tim 👍
Another great bike in the mix. KTM covering a lot of bases, pretty sure an R will turn up . If it does I’m sure it will sell quicker than Cornish Pasties. Great video Chops.
Waiting for my local dealership to have a demo bike available.
For now, I'll stick with my 2019 790Adv with its 19" front and 17" rear (1090 wheels).
35,000 miles on the clock now. It's doing well 👍
Cracking vid 👏🏻 they do say it comes in 3’s. So hopefully now your done bud
Im also waiting for a SMTR , I currently have a 890R and a Tracer GT and this would be the perfect single bike if it had the R hardware. Also on my 890R i can have slip angle and TCS activated whilst having wheelie control off. Surely this is doable on this ? I really would like an R version in the garage asap but i waited over a year for 890R to come out after the 790 so looks like ill be waiting a while. Will also be interested to see if Yamaha do a Super tenere with the Cp3 engine and SM set up.
Chopsy !!!nightmare day for you there 😮 glasses camera 🙁I thought you had the yellow tape on the Speedo as well.😁 good fun if expensive day out .👍
Anyone skating berating this bike for its “Parts Bin” aesthetics, has to ride one!!
I’ve just had one for an hour and it’s bonkers!!
Feels like it has huge torque and I stepped off of a 1290 SDR.
Extremely comfy seat and so nimble.
Needs a screen for the motorway as it’s a lot more turbulent than my 1290.
Looks absolutely shocking....they got to the clay model part i think and just pushed it into a wall... KTM design dept: "Fuck it lads...that'll do...."
No I think it looks good! Might be one of those you need to see in the flesh to appreciate 🤷♂️👍
@@LambChopRides I agree....i like KTM's style...i love the 1290 Superduke - probably one of the best looking naked's out there....RC8 (lovely) - all of their supermoto range - great...no problems there but, they throw in an ugly duckling/curveball and this one is it for me...kinda like that 690 they did about 10 years back....that was a honker as well...
As much as this bike suits you… I think it might be cursed. Faffmageddon!
Haha you could be right Tim! 😆
Love the video mate 👌.
Chopsy, just after you lost your camera. Coincidentally a RUclips ad popped up. Normally I hit "skip ad" as quickly as I can. But after your comment that we need to watch the ads so that you get as much money as possible to replace the insta360, I watched the whole ad. Fortunately the ad was for the new Guardians of the Galaxy movie, which I'm very much looking forward to watching, and the ad was very funny. So it's a win win. Keep up the good work.😀
OK win win!! 🏆 😄👍
You will be able to fit Duke 890 R handlebars to this bike just like I did my Norden 901. They should be about 30mm narrower and a little lower.
Great bike, if it's anything like the 990 I had.WP suspension is just brilliant. But, what is the point of that hideous white "beak" thing? What's wrong with a normal guard?
Where has a bike like this been you ask? Ducati Hypermotard! I have a proper 450 sumo but the Hyper gives me ability to do sumo antics and go pretty far. The 450 it has to be on kart track or super tight twists for it to be enjoyable. The hyper vtwin is amazing and it looks amazing unlike the horrible bug-orange ktm.
I agree with engine makes me grin all the time on me 890 adv
And the weight love it 👍👍👌👌
Interesting bike & first impression. I can see this very much suiting you Chops. I imagine you'd also find some of that lost power too. I think there's a good chance KTM will do an R version as is their way but could be a year or two & do you want to wait for something that may not happen? Also noticed your ZX10 comment. Oh dear.
I specifically didn't skip the ads to help you out Chopsy. You could do with a Specsavers sponsorship. And maybe Insta 360.
Your a star! 👍👍
I don’t need fish eye views 360 cams vieW of you, just a good stable view out the front that shows the cockpit, a good walk around and that’s it. All you guys need to get over your selves……😎🇨🇦good vid!
As an SMT'er ( Supermoto Tourer ) myself, I bought the Aprilia Dorsoduro 900 based on your response to it a few ago... and it was/is a 'lovely' bike as you said. Western Canada is the place for these Chops ;)
Great bike too! 👍
Me too 😂😂
Hi chops, just looking at your gloves looks like a 1970 shower mat. Nice bike
Thanks for the thrill ride, sorry about the glasses and camera!
Nice to see a spiritual successor to the hyperstrada
Damn you Chops. Stop saying you don't want to take your adventure bike off road.
I've had heaps of sportsbikes and never taken them on track, and my GS will never go off road either.
RIP camera and glasses....
I watched the adverts this time 😂
Looks like KTM have another winner there. I'll get my test ride booked.
Pulled over on the M20 as I forgot to put in my earplugs, put my bins on the fuel tank when I took off my lid, put the lid back on and realised I hadn't put my bins back on, interesting ride home lol
Adds watched ,brilliant review the ktm really suits you
Thank you 🙏👍
How do you find jumping on something like the SMT after a sportsbike? I've ridden sportyish bikes all my life, current bike is an RC8 which I've had since 2010!! I once briefly test rode the 990SMT and it felt big, squidgy and a bit gutless after jumping straight off the RC8.... love the idea of the SMT and really interested in the new one, since I'm tall and no spring chicken any more.
You had me at ball bags!
Doing so well KTM. Love it! This was going to be my next bike, right up until the traction control must be switched off every start. That's a big no from me!! Sorry guys, I had 7 new ktm's, but my traction control has just spat me off.
Does it throw water to rider? Do you need rear or front fender while driving in rain or wet asphalt?
Great review on a cool bike.
Thought I would let the video run again with full adverts as it might help you with ad revenue.
Glasses and camera one day, what a nightmare
Your a star thanks 😁👍
According to my local KTM dealer, they can activate the tech pack at any time, you don't have to activate it before 1500 miles from new....
Great review,.. think i might be chopping in my smcr , has it room for a pillion ? The mrs comes out with me on short trips but the smcr seat aint very accomodating for her ample airbags i end up sitting nearly on the headstock !!
Yeah probably pretty comfortable on the back I would think.. 👍
Oh mate I'm gutted for you reference the camera and glasses.. kinda luck I have chopsy
Great vids as always
Always my No1 choice on the Tube🤟
Thanks Lee 👍
I had a 06’ 950 SM for a year and it was the most wheelie happy motorcycle I ever rode, too bad I sold it because I thought it wasn’t fast enough smh I’m gonna just buy another or 990 SMR if I can find one lol
How do you find the bike compares to the Hypermotard? I love the engine, playfulness and position of the Hype, but wish it were less painful for longer trips or motorway. Why Ducati ever stopped the Hyperstrada is a mystery.
I like the idea of this, although find it an unattractive bike, and wish it wasn't a parallel
I can't think how many pairs of glasses I have forgotten on the back of my bike.Nightmare to ride without your glasses.Cheers.
Haha yeah normally I get away with it but not this time 😫
I’m seriously lusting after one of these. Does it make ANY sense to have this AND a Super Duke?🤔 I dont want a GS or Super Adventure, i just want that riding position on a bike that is fun and chuckable…
As long as a man can twiddle his remote knob, all is right with the world 🙂 A comfortable KTM seat? How is such a thing possible- witchcraft!
Bloody hell John, you need to stay in bed for the rest of the week LOL
Kinda sounds like someone might find out how addictive off-pavement is. Go on, it opens up so many more experiences.
Changing brake pads does wonders for the Jjuan brake. I change mine to Brembo pads on my Duke and EBC HH pads on my Norden. Very happy with the brakes after that
The brakes are actually very good, just being a brake snob 😆👍
@@LambChopRides Im pretty sure the Brembos is a direct fit on the SMT ;-) just saying..
Hooligan meets Hooligan..
A match made in Heaven..😄😄😄
Test rode it recently and didn't get on with it. Tall rounders are not for me even though I'm 6ft 1in. I prefer something lower to ground for inherently better handling.
Also wished they had used the 890 Duke engine, which I've tried on a test ride of the 890 Duke and much prefer. The SMT's engine has that initial shove but runs out of revs too soon and you need to change gear far too quickly. I prefer to be able to rev an engine out and was constantly hitting the rev limiter. Not an issue on the 890 Duke.
Also was surprised that the seat was a bit too wide and splayed my legs out too much so that when standing on an incline, it was a stretch to get my feet onto the ground.
Finally although their was no wind buffeting, the wind noise was shockingly bad at much more than 50mph, even though I wore earplugs.
Well, that was an incident-packed ride, you're in good company though, Usernamekate has just smashed her Insta360 X3 up, as well. I bought an Insta360 X3 a few months ago, but I ordered the metal cage and lens guards to go with it, and I'm glad I did, because it can work out bloody expensive! I had a Yamaha Ténéré 700, I liked most aspects, and it was a good bike, but I found it way too top-heavy, with a very high centre of gravity. I sold it and went back to a sports bike, and I'm much happier, but the KTM 890 SMT looks like a very interesting option with its 17" inch wheels. 👍
Nice bike nowadays they just keep getting better I reckon you are up for one Chopsy.
105hp fun Street bike✊🔥🔥
Only 3 questions. Supermoto, but without the Brembo's (like the 890r). And tourer, but with super sticky tyres, that won't get you much touring? And priced at nearly £1000 more than the 890r which has top notch suspension and brakes. 🧐
You’re absolutely right I think. SMT are a niche of their own (that would explain the tires, if you have ever ridden the old SMT you’ll get that part). But the pricing is wrong considering the lower quality peripherals compared to the Duke R.
Brakes are actually very good, just missing the bling and name. It's priced inline with the 890 adventure that's where they get the 12,500 from. Tyres wear wasn't too bad, those Michelin GP (I think they were) are dual compound so harder centre to give some distance.
I like everything about it…apart from the headlight thing. The 950 Hypermotard looks so nice in comparison even if it is a bit more money.
My main issue with modern KTMs aside from the 'will there wont there be an R' and the whole demo mode thing.. is knowing the models only hang around for a year or 2 max before theyre changed. I wouldn't be surprised if they bump this up to a 990SMT in 2024 which will hurt residual values of the 890
Of all the bikes I’ve seen you own and review, including your guest stint at PB, I’d (presumptuously) nominate the 890SMT as the ideal bike for you. Might be half the price of the Pikes Peak but I bet it’s more fun on the road. BTW, KTM made a v-twin 990 SMT back in the day when they had the 990 SuperDuke/R & Adventure. If I wasn’t an old bugger and a 5’7” midget I’d have an 890 SMT in a heartbeat.
Thanks Bruce! Yeah I did absolutely love it, but I've got the Superduke here now and think maybe that's the one for me.. dam just both so good!
The perils of being a road tester and riding too many bikes 😂
@@LambChopRides yeah, real world problems 😚
I dropped my glasses once on the road, luckily no damage done, until I bent down to pick them up, misplaced my foot on top of them and dragged the lenses across the tarmac. I feel your pain!
Haha whoops 🤭 😁👍