Regarding your views on the exhaust noise output, I think that for a proper adventure bike it is much nicer to have a quieter bike, just so that you’re not making a noise nuisance out in the countryside.
+1 I have stock exhausts on both of my bikes exactly for that reason. I do not want to create any unnecessary noise when I ride in the countryside... even with the stock pipe on 890 I recently scared off the horses and that didn't feel right... Cheers!
Hey mate and this is like a cure to my soul to hear that there are trouble-free owners, as those camshaft groups are jumping on me far too often :) Happy to hear about your milage too, it is just about the same for me. Best!
Good video. I liked that you explained the fuel. It's nice to be confirmed of my own conclusions. I even went down a tooth on my drive camshaft at 15000km, and I highly recommend it, "recommended bt Chris Birch" that is what he runs on his 890. I've got 20000km now with 1/3 offroad and have not had any issues other than ones I caused myself.
Hi Rafal! Good to see that you are happy with your "new" bike and that the KTM is a worthy successor for your former 701. Have fun with it and stay safe!
Hey! A nice review! I have the same bike, and the only thing that made me look for an improvement was the engine vibration felt on a handlebars, especially when I am on a highway with a speed above 120kmph. I installed PDS with a little change. However, when I added the accessory bar end weight, it improved significantly overall comfort! I use barkbuster, so I went for their external bar end weight. Cheers!
very good, honest review. I can completely follow your path to get there. I drive Norden 901. I stress the bike. I did some TET sections in northern Italy and ACT Italy. So far minor issues with bike.
Thanks for sharing! That is comforting to know, especially with the cam-shaft-gate rising in social media so quickly. I really hope KTM will address this problem as a responsible company should. Best!
I liked your summary...feel the same way. The bike is SO much more capable than I am. It really inspires confidence when you come up on something that's a little more challenging and this thing just glides right through it. Would be interested to hear more about your 2-up riding on it though....seems a little "tight" for two. (Great video!)
Thank you very mich Milwriter, it was a pleasure to read your comment. In regards to riding with a passenger - I have two teenagers at home, that sometimes hop on my bike. No long distance trip together yet, but I think about weekend camping get away with one of my kids. If that will finally happen, I'll make sure to share reflections afterwards. Best!
Great review, i have an 890 smt and when i brake gently approaching lights or junction mine shudder quite a bit, so not a clunk but a bad vibration as if the contact surfaces are binding, its fine under hard/normal braking but light feathered braking causes a nasty shudder, if it wasnt for that the bike would be perfect
Thanks! I believe I also had that shudder in the beginning, but a few hundreds kilometers in this was gone (and replaced by a clunk, that was recently fixed during a service). Have you tried cleaning the brake discs ? Maybe that would be helpful too. Keeping my fingers crossed for a solution. Cheers!
The clunk at low speed with front braking is probably the head tube. This is a known issue as it loosens up over the first 500-1000 kms and develops play. I had this issue with mine and they tightened it back up at the first service. You can do it yourself, but you need the bike supported with the front wheel off the ground.
Hey there, thanks for the question - and I have no issues what so ever, at least so far after 13k km (8K miles). KTM recently said they will cover the cost of any cranks related repairs, so I am a bit less stressed about it. Anyway, I totally enjoy riding my 890!
That is interesting - as I see in the 2023 Manual (23_3214754_en_OM.pdf), page 97, 13.9 Checking the chain tension, point #1: Raise motorcycle with rear lifting gear (page 94). So as per User Manual to my bike - it it not on the side stand. Best!
Nobody I know XO with one of these bikes runs the service out to 15000, most do it at 7500 kms. Even my dealer suggested it was way too long at 15000 kms
I agree. It would be kind to the engine if you were to change the oil twice as often as recommend, so around 7500km. It's easy enough to do, so you can do it yourself. You could skip the oil filter change during these interim oil changes.
Very friendly and explanatory, thanks a lot! Question is the engine heat disturbing the legs, mentioned by some 890r users, do you have any complaints or simply, what’s your experience?
Thank you so much for your comment :) in regards to heat I just wrote this reply for one of the comments: Surprisingly, the Norden 901 Expedition I tested had a more noticeable heating issue than the 890 Adv R. Both bikes generate a lot of heat due to the Euro 5 emissions standard and large catalytic converter, especially when riding slowly or at stops. So yes, heat is an issue, but with current emission regulations it will probably be something we need to get used to... :/ But honestly, even with such a ultra hot summer like the last one - I was noticing the heat, but it never reached a level of being a problem. I was in Morocco, I was riding when there was 36 degrees C on the highway and still it was business as usual.
@@CykloGamonieThank you so much for the reply. And I havent ridden any 890 yet, but I guess that the heat felt is the airflow directed by the radiator fans. That is what I see and guess diving into the design. So, unless the fans run, no heat is felt.
that could be true. I can surely say - heat is noticeable, but (at least for me) not an issue. It was much worse on Norden 901 - practically same bike, but heat management very different. Best! :)
perfect review! Thank you so much! One question: how does it perform on the highway at 130 km/h (80mph)? RPM? Does the high fender cause problems with the wind?
Hey there and thank your the comment. Fun fact, the fuel consumption is very different on this bike: I was able to get down to 3,4 l/100km in Morroco where it was a very slow kind of easy riding. 4,3-4,5 is my everyday consumption. 5,5 in on highway with 130km/h set on cruse on regular fuel (and regular is 95 octanes here in Poland, premium is 98) - it is working a bit north of 5k rpm on 6th gear (red line is at 9k rpm, so you still have plenty of space for acceleration). No issues with high fender whatsoever at highway speeds. No worries. Cheers!
I would also suggest headset bearing. KTM is not using the strongest bearing type. Not a big problem but requires attention now and then. I had to replace mine after 24k. It's great bike, happy for you.
@@CykloGamonie I noticed that clunk when my 890Adv R had only 400 miles . At 500 miles the bike was not stable on the motorway abowe 70 mph . After inspection I found loose steering damper ( 2 bolts connecting to the frame were loose ) and of course additional loose headstock bearings . A bit too early for my liking, but after eliminating all those loose ...everything works as it should again ;)
Thank you for the tip - I have just checked the steering dumper screws (including the two connecting to the frame) and all of them were properly tighten (or at least 8Nm+). So maybe my clank is related to the headset bearing. I will ask the service to check that. Thanks!
Bardzo ciekawy i kompletny materiał. Brakuje takich informacji od użytkowników. 9000 km to wystarczający okres, żeby coś powiedzieć. Jestem w trakcie zmiany motocykla i w grę wchodzi właśnie 890, 690 lub Tenerka. Wiem, że miałeś 690. Mam podobny wzrost do twojego i jestem ciekawy, czy nie jest to zbyt wysoki motocykl. Czy różnica w wadze po zmianie motocykla nie jest dyskwalifikująca dla 890?
Hej Tomek i dzięki za pytania. Jeśli chodzi o wysokość siodła w 890, to jest ono jednak trochę niżej niż w 701 (879mm vs 925mm). Przy moich 180cm wzrostu na obu motocyklach ogólnie podpieram się jedną nogą... ale tę niewielką różnicę jednak czuć na korzyść 890. Waga to zagadkowa sprawa - bo przy wolnych manewrach w garażu 890 wydaje się być krową w porównaniu do 701, ale jak już jedziesz więcej niż 10km/h, to różnice są zaskakująco minimalne. Także to zdecydowanie nie jest element dyskwalifikujący. W video zapomniałem o jednej rzeczy - ten silnik to piec, latem katalizator mocno grzeje w buty. Można usunąć, ale jeśli podróżuje się sporo przez Niemcy czy Austrię - to może kiedyś być kłopot. Z moich doświadczeń z oboma maszynami: 690/701 jest doskonała do jazdy w offie, ale na dłuższe przeloty autostradowe jest dość męcząca, zwłaszcza jeśli jedziesz w towarzystwie, które lubi przelotową powyżej 120 km/h. 890 nie jest tak poręczna w offie jak 701, ale nie ma dramatu. Trzeba ćwiczyć technikę jazdy i wszystko na tym motocyklu da się zrobić. Natomiast jest to o wiele bardziej uniwersalny moto niż 701. Jeśli tylko masz taką możliwość, weź oba na jazdy testowe. Jakiś czas temu KTM w Warszawie na Prymasa miał oba te sprzęty do testów. A jakbym mógł jeszcze jakoś pomóc, pisz śmiało. Pozdro!
wiesz, co - w sumie oba mocno grzeją przez Euro5, ale 890 grzeje wyjątkowo intensywnie. Fajnie, że będziesz miał opcje pojeździć testowo. Nomen omen moja 890 pochodzi właśnie od dealera ze Szczecina (moto46) :)
Hej, jeszcze w tym roku będe kupował motocykl, najpierw mial być KTM 890 a później KTM 690. Czy wg Ciebie jest duża różnica w jeździe off road między nimi? U mnie z pewnością jest to proporcja 80 _ 20 na korzyść off. Przed sprzedażą 701 mówiłeś, że po próbach innych motocykli wracałeś do swojej 701 jak do roweru. Czy tu też jest taka różnica? Dziękuję za wszystkie filmy. Dobra robota. Pozdro. Mirek
dzięki Mirek. Jeśli faktycznie 80% czasu (lub przebiegu) będziesz spędzał w offie, to 690/701 będzie dobrym wyborem. Ja sprzedałem 701 tylko dlatego, że coraz więcej jeździłem dwupasmówkami, a czasem także z pasażerem. Wtedy 890 jest zdecydowanie lepsza niż 690/701. Ale jeśli Ty głównie jeździsz solo i w offie, to 690/701 da Ci mnóstwo frajdy. Czy między 701 a 890 jest duża różnica - w wolnych manewrach z pewnością tak, na korzyść 701. Ale jak już jadę 890 z prędkością większą niż 10km/h, to wrażenia z jazdy są zbliżone do 701. Dodam tylko, że nie jestem jakimś harpaganem w offie - jeżdżę w trasy typu TET czy ACT, czyli jest to takie offroadowanie typu adventure, a nie hard. Powodzenia w wyborach - oba motocykle są absolutnie super.
Hey there, to be honest I was considering T7 for a very long time. Finally I gave up after a few longer test drives - it was far too top heavy for me (I actually dropped the bike at the dealership....), the way the exhaust is mounted to the frame is basically a total mistake and yes... I need a good cruise control for those long highway miles... T7 has some positive sides like engine and reliability, but besides that the rest is already not so cool in 2024... Cheers!
Do you ever get this bike cook your legs? I've tried the 2024 version and the heat on the back of your calves is pretty excessive. I'd have to install a heat shield or something.
Hey there and thank you for the comment. To be honest, I felt a lot more heat on Norden 901 than on my 890 Adv R, and I know this is strange as those engines are the same. Answering your question - I can feel the heat on my legs, but this is far, far away from excessive cooking you mentioned. And in summer I am riding to work wearing jeans and Dainese York Air Shoes, and it is absolutely fine. It might be different settings for other markets...
Hey James and thank you for the question. After two years on Husky 701 with seat height at 925 mm, KTM with 879mm seems a bit more manageable, but without a doubt this is not a bike you can comfortably put two feet down on the ground (at least I can't). I've learnt to use one leg for all situations, also in off-road stuff. Confidence level is much lower than on my CRF250, but it is not discouraging me from riding ;) Best!
Hej Docent i dzięki za komentarz. Bez dwóch zdań czuć tę dodatkową wagę motocykla, zwłaszcza przy wolnych manewrach. Ale jak już jedzie, to idzie to jak dzik... Powiem Ci tak - na początku na tyle brakowało mi po zamianie lekkiego motocykla, że kupiłem CRF250L jako drugi i tylko do zabaw offroadowych, bo początkowo trochę nie ogarniałem tego KTMa. Ale im więcej nim jeżdżę, tym rzadziej sięgam teraz pod CRF250. Ogólnie, jak już pierwszy opór minie, to 890 jest naprawdę wdzięcznym moto w offie. Pozdro!
Rafał, to jeszcze inaczej zapytam. Sam mam kanał więc wiem, komentarze w cenie😊. Jedziesz jutro na TET POLSKA w garażu stoją 701 i 890 . Co bierzesz dzisiaj? Analogicznie, na przykład., jedziesz TETem na Nordcap , nie wiesz jak będzie. Co bierzesz?
a to dobre pytanie! Jeśli jechałbym z całym sprzętem do campingu, to pewnie chętniej zrobiłbym polski TET na 890. W tym tygodniu jadę na krótki wypad z namiotem i całym szpejem do biwakowania i cieszę się, że pojadę 890tką. Jeśli to byłaby jedno-, dwudniowa wycieczka w wersji light ze spaniem na kwaterach -> chętniej na 701. Ale już na Nordkapp tylko i wyłącznie 890. Jechałem do Rumunii i z powrtotem na 701 - da radę to zrobić, ale... można wygodniej. Ja już dobiegam do 50tki, więc pewne aspekty związane z wygodą zaczynają nabierać znaczenia. Ważne jest też to, czy jedziesz sam czy w towarzystwie. A jeśli w towarzystwie, to jakie towarzystwo ma moto. Bo jeśli oni są też na siglach, to nikt nie będzie cisnął zbyt szybko na możliwości 701, ale jak już mają twiny, to będąc na 701 zwalniasz grupę (tak, ja wiem, można na tym moto pojechać szybko, ale po pierwsze to będzie strach w oczach, dojedziesz roztrzęsiony i tankowanie będzie co 150km). Myślę, że jazdy testowe dużo Ci wyjaśnią. Jeśli mogę podpowiedzieć, to też też 690 na autostradę i zobacz, czy przy 120-130 km/h nie ma dla Ciebie za dużo wibracji (mi od nich drętwiały ręce, więc zakładałem PHDS i było trochę lepiej). No i kanapa - w 690/701 to jest duży temat przy dłuższych wyprawach. Na 890 spędziłem 2 tyg w Maroko i ani razu nie było problemu z siedzeniem...
dzisiaj wpadł mi w oko artykuł na jednej ze stron opisujących platformę 690/701 i zgadzam się ze stwierdzeniem: "motocykl został stworzony z myślą o jednodniowych wycieczkach, więc jeśli przerobisz go na motocykl turystyczny ADV i okaże się niewygodny, możesz winić tylko siebie..." - tak dokładnie, nic dodać nic ująć :)
Jestem Tobie niezmiernie wdzięczny za pamięć i dodatkowe informacje. Wykorzystam Twoją cierpliwość i zadam jeszcze jedno pytanie. O Hondzie. Znam jej ograniczenia, ale chciałbym je pominąć. Wielu ludzi na Hondzie jeździ po świecie, pewnie ze względu na zaufanie i możliwość napraw. Jednak w pewnych aspektach jest podobna do 701 ( wąska kanapa, wielkość) . Czy można zatem wysnuć wniosek, że gdybym zdecydował się pojechać Hondą w długą podróż to równie dobrze, a może i lepiej będzie mi na 690 KTM?
No heat issues? Everyone says its roasts your legs alive? I commute, tour and ride offroad and my current GS is a little warm on my legs when in the city or very slow rocky sections but Ive heard this bike completely roasts you.
Hey there and thank you for the comment. Surprisingly, the Norden 901 Expedition I tested had a more noticeable heating issue than the 890 Adv R. Both bikes generate a lot of heat due to the Euro 5 emissions standard and large catalytic converter, especially when riding slowly or at stops. So yes, heat is an issue, but with current emission regulations it will probably be something we need to get used to... :/
even when you are riding on highways for few hours? or you do not ride highways for long distances? For me cruise control is a feature I would not buy an adventure bike without. Cheers!
@@CykloGamonie very dangerous! Often people put hands somewhere else when using CC! I was doing 600km per day in last trip never had a problem w wrist. Not using CC
@@michsky46 There is no point in delving further into whether it is worth having or not having Cruise Control. But personally I like it and use it a lot bot on highway and in slow steady traffic ;)
Regarding your views on the exhaust noise output, I think that for a proper adventure bike it is much nicer to have a quieter bike, just so that you’re not making a noise nuisance out in the countryside.
+1
I have stock exhausts on both of my bikes exactly for that reason. I do not want to create any unnecessary noise when I ride in the countryside... even with the stock pipe on 890 I recently scared off the horses and that didn't feel right...
Cheers!
I agree. Nice and quiet is the way to go these days.
Thanks for the video. I have 22,000 km on my 2023 890 and like my previous 790 it has never let me down. I usually limit 400 km max between refuelling
Hey mate and this is like a cure to my soul to hear that there are trouble-free owners, as those camshaft groups are jumping on me far too often :)
Happy to hear about your milage too, it is just about the same for me.
Best!
Good video. I liked that you explained the fuel. It's nice to be confirmed of my own conclusions. I even went down a tooth on my drive camshaft at 15000km, and I highly recommend it, "recommended bt Chris Birch" that is what he runs on his 890. I've got 20000km now with 1/3 offroad and have not had any issues other than ones I caused myself.
Thank you! Going down a tooth on front sprocket - I will consider that. At the moment I am ultra happy with the bikes performance :)
Best!
Hi Rafal!
Good to see that you are happy with your "new" bike and that the KTM is a worthy successor for your former 701. Have fun with it and stay safe!
Thank you :)
Hey! A nice review! I have the same bike, and the only thing that made me look for an improvement was the engine vibration felt on a handlebars, especially when I am on a highway with a speed above 120kmph. I installed PDS with a little change. However, when I added the accessory bar end weight, it improved significantly overall comfort! I use barkbuster, so I went for their external bar end weight. Cheers!
Hey there, thank you for the comment and your hint on reducing handlebar vibrations. Sounds good!
Like you my previous bike was a 701 and like you I love my 890 adv R. Keep them videos coming
Thanks, will do!
very good, honest review. I can completely follow your path to get there.
I drive Norden 901. I stress the bike. I did some TET sections in northern Italy and ACT Italy. So far minor issues with bike.
Thanks for sharing! That is comforting to know, especially with the cam-shaft-gate rising in social media so quickly. I really hope KTM will address this problem as a responsible company should.
Best!
Great video and I agree about the chain, mine has never needed adjustment 5000 miles amazingly
Thanks for sharing that is not only my chain, as I was quite confused with it :)
I liked your summary...feel the same way. The bike is SO much more capable than I am. It really inspires confidence when you come up on something that's a little more challenging and this thing just glides right through it. Would be interested to hear more about your 2-up riding on it though....seems a little "tight" for two. (Great video!)
Thank you very mich Milwriter, it was a pleasure to read your comment.
In regards to riding with a passenger - I have two teenagers at home, that sometimes hop on my bike. No long distance trip together yet, but I think about weekend camping get away with one of my kids. If that will finally happen, I'll make sure to share reflections afterwards.
Best!
No problems with the camshafts on 890 Adv. Engine. 890@R rules. Best Adventure Bike ever.
Keeping my fingers crossed for mine as well :) Thanks!
Nice bike. Thanks for sharing your experience.
My pleasure, mate!
Great review, i have an 890 smt and when i brake gently approaching lights or junction mine shudder quite a bit, so not a clunk but a bad vibration as if the contact surfaces are binding, its fine under hard/normal braking but light feathered braking causes a nasty shudder, if it wasnt for that the bike would be perfect
Thanks!
I believe I also had that shudder in the beginning, but a few hundreds kilometers in this was gone (and replaced by a clunk, that was recently fixed during a service). Have you tried cleaning the brake discs ? Maybe that would be helpful too.
Keeping my fingers crossed for a solution. Cheers!
The clunk at low speed with front braking is probably the head tube. This is a known issue as it loosens up over the first 500-1000 kms and develops play. I had this issue with mine and they tightened it back up at the first service. You can do it yourself, but you need the bike supported with the front wheel off the ground.
Thank you for the tip. I will try to tighten it up and see the result. Cheers!
I am happy for you :)
Thanks!
the low speed clunk is the steering head loose. loosen triple tree clamps before tightening. retighten all to spec.
Right, thanks! I have already checked the bolts on the steering dumper (as this was suggested before), head bolt is next. Best!
Great content, clean cut as it is 😎👍🏻
Thanks 👍
I’m not a tall person but I run the power parts tall comfort seat to help with the leg bend problem.
Thank you, that is a cool hint!
@@CykloGamonie You’re welcome! I hope it helps!
Any problems with Cranks etc?
Thinkin about this one but, so much conflicting bad news.
Many thanks👍👍🏍️🏍️🎃🎃🙏🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧
Hey there, thanks for the question - and I have no issues what so ever, at least so far after 13k km (8K miles). KTM recently said they will cover the cost of any cranks related repairs, so I am a bit less stressed about it. Anyway, I totally enjoy riding my 890!
Hi, according to the service manual the bike must be standing on the ground on its side stand when measuring the chain tension 👍
That is interesting - as I see in the 2023 Manual (23_3214754_en_OM.pdf), page 97, 13.9 Checking the chain tension, point #1: Raise motorcycle with rear lifting gear (page 94).
So as per User Manual to my bike - it it not on the side stand.
Best!
Nobody I know XO with one of these bikes runs the service out to 15000, most do it at 7500 kms. Even my dealer suggested it was way too long at 15000 kms
Right, sounds reasonable. I am considering having a service soon, it will be 8k km since last one, so still far earlier than @15k. Thanks!
I agree. It would be kind to the engine if you were to change the oil twice as often as recommend, so around 7500km. It's easy enough to do, so you can do it yourself. You could skip the oil filter change during these interim oil changes.
thanks personally I would drop the oil regardless of KTM's recommendation
I definitely will very soon, thanks!
Very friendly and explanatory, thanks a lot! Question is the engine heat disturbing the legs, mentioned by some 890r users, do you have any complaints or simply, what’s your experience?
Thank you so much for your comment :)
in regards to heat I just wrote this reply for one of the comments:
Surprisingly, the Norden 901 Expedition I tested had a more noticeable heating issue than the 890 Adv R. Both bikes generate a lot of heat due to the Euro 5 emissions standard and large catalytic converter, especially when riding slowly or at stops.
So yes, heat is an issue, but with current emission regulations it will probably be something we need to get used to... :/
But honestly, even with such a ultra hot summer like the last one - I was noticing the heat, but it never reached a level of being a problem. I was in Morocco, I was riding when there was 36 degrees C on the highway and still it was business as usual.
@@CykloGamonieThank you so much for the reply. And I havent ridden any 890 yet, but I guess that the heat felt is the airflow directed by the radiator fans. That is what I see and guess diving into the design. So, unless the fans run, no heat is felt.
that could be true. I can surely say - heat is noticeable, but (at least for me) not an issue. It was much worse on Norden 901 - practically same bike, but heat management very different.
Best! :)
perfect review! Thank you so much! One question: how does it perform on the highway at 130 km/h (80mph)? RPM? Does the high fender cause problems with the wind?
Hey there and thank your the comment.
Fun fact, the fuel consumption is very different on this bike:
I was able to get down to 3,4 l/100km in Morroco where it was a very slow kind of easy riding.
4,3-4,5 is my everyday consumption.
5,5 in on highway with 130km/h set on cruse on regular fuel (and regular is 95 octanes here in Poland, premium is 98) - it is working a bit north of 5k rpm on 6th gear (red line is at 9k rpm, so you still have plenty of space for acceleration).
No issues with high fender whatsoever at highway speeds. No worries.
Cheers!
The clank could be the headstock bearings.
It is just tighten the main bolt on the top 👍
I would also suggest headset bearing. KTM is not using the strongest bearing type. Not a big problem but requires attention now and then. I had to replace mine after 24k. It's great bike, happy for you.
it might be, I will definitely check for that. Thanks!
@@CykloGamonie I noticed that clunk when my 890Adv R had only 400 miles . At 500 miles the bike was not stable on the motorway abowe 70 mph .
After inspection I found loose steering damper ( 2 bolts connecting to the frame were loose ) and of course additional loose headstock bearings .
A bit too early for my liking, but after eliminating all those loose ...everything works as it should again ;)
Thank you for the tip - I have just checked the steering dumper screws (including the two connecting to the frame) and all of them were properly tighten (or at least 8Nm+). So maybe my clank is related to the headset bearing. I will ask the service to check that. Thanks!
Bardzo ciekawy i kompletny materiał. Brakuje takich informacji od użytkowników. 9000 km to wystarczający okres, żeby coś powiedzieć. Jestem w trakcie zmiany motocykla i w grę wchodzi właśnie 890, 690 lub Tenerka. Wiem, że miałeś 690. Mam podobny wzrost do twojego i jestem ciekawy, czy nie jest to zbyt wysoki motocykl. Czy różnica w wadze po zmianie motocykla nie jest dyskwalifikująca dla 890?
Hej Tomek i dzięki za pytania.
Jeśli chodzi o wysokość siodła w 890, to jest ono jednak trochę niżej niż w 701 (879mm vs 925mm). Przy moich 180cm wzrostu na obu motocyklach ogólnie podpieram się jedną nogą... ale tę niewielką różnicę jednak czuć na korzyść 890.
Waga to zagadkowa sprawa - bo przy wolnych manewrach w garażu 890 wydaje się być krową w porównaniu do 701, ale jak już jedziesz więcej niż 10km/h, to różnice są zaskakująco minimalne. Także to zdecydowanie nie jest element dyskwalifikujący.
W video zapomniałem o jednej rzeczy - ten silnik to piec, latem katalizator mocno grzeje w buty. Można usunąć, ale jeśli podróżuje się sporo przez Niemcy czy Austrię - to może kiedyś być kłopot.
Z moich doświadczeń z oboma maszynami:
690/701 jest doskonała do jazdy w offie, ale na dłuższe przeloty autostradowe jest dość męcząca, zwłaszcza jeśli jedziesz w towarzystwie, które lubi przelotową powyżej 120 km/h.
890 nie jest tak poręczna w offie jak 701, ale nie ma dramatu. Trzeba ćwiczyć technikę jazdy i wszystko na tym motocyklu da się zrobić. Natomiast jest to o wiele bardziej uniwersalny moto niż 701.
Jeśli tylko masz taką możliwość, weź oba na jazdy testowe. Jakiś czas temu KTM w Warszawie na Prymasa miał oba te sprzęty do testów.
A jakbym mógł jeszcze jakoś pomóc, pisz śmiało. Pozdro!
@@CykloGamonie Dzięki. Dzwoniłem do dealera w Szczecinie i będę jeździł oboma. A mówiąc o silniku jako o piecu to masz na myśli 701, czy 890?
wiesz, co - w sumie oba mocno grzeją przez Euro5, ale 890 grzeje wyjątkowo intensywnie.
Fajnie, że będziesz miał opcje pojeździć testowo. Nomen omen moja 890 pochodzi właśnie od dealera ze Szczecina (moto46) :)
Hej, jeszcze w tym roku będe kupował motocykl, najpierw mial być KTM 890 a później KTM 690.
Czy wg Ciebie jest duża różnica w jeździe off road między nimi? U mnie z pewnością jest to proporcja 80 _ 20 na korzyść off. Przed sprzedażą 701 mówiłeś, że po próbach innych motocykli wracałeś do swojej 701 jak do roweru. Czy tu też jest taka różnica? Dziękuję za wszystkie filmy. Dobra robota. Pozdro. Mirek
dzięki Mirek.
Jeśli faktycznie 80% czasu (lub przebiegu) będziesz spędzał w offie, to 690/701 będzie dobrym wyborem. Ja sprzedałem 701 tylko dlatego, że coraz więcej jeździłem dwupasmówkami, a czasem także z pasażerem. Wtedy 890 jest zdecydowanie lepsza niż 690/701.
Ale jeśli Ty głównie jeździsz solo i w offie, to 690/701 da Ci mnóstwo frajdy.
Czy między 701 a 890 jest duża różnica - w wolnych manewrach z pewnością tak, na korzyść 701. Ale jak już jadę 890 z prędkością większą niż 10km/h, to wrażenia z jazdy są zbliżone do 701.
Dodam tylko, że nie jestem jakimś harpaganem w offie - jeżdżę w trasy typu TET czy ACT, czyli jest to takie offroadowanie typu adventure, a nie hard.
Powodzenia w wyborach - oba motocykle są absolutnie super.
Dzięki wielkie za odpowiedź. Rób dalej filmy. Ja czekam. Pozdro
Отличный отзыв! Но почему не рассматривали Yamaha Tenere 700?
Hey there, to be honest I was considering T7 for a very long time. Finally I gave up after a few longer test drives - it was far too top heavy for me (I actually dropped the bike at the dealership....), the way the exhaust is mounted to the frame is basically a total mistake and yes... I need a good cruise control for those long highway miles... T7 has some positive sides like engine and reliability, but besides that the rest is already not so cool in 2024... Cheers!
the buffering is from the handguards on the norden remove them and its gone
Hey there and thanks for the comment - is is quite intersting, I have probably the same handguards, I might want to give it a shot :) Best!
Do you ever get this bike cook your legs? I've tried the 2024 version and the heat on the back of your calves is pretty excessive. I'd have to install a heat shield or something.
Hey there and thank you for the comment.
To be honest, I felt a lot more heat on Norden 901 than on my 890 Adv R, and I know this is strange as those engines are the same.
Answering your question - I can feel the heat on my legs, but this is far, far away from excessive cooking you mentioned. And in summer I am riding to work wearing jeans and Dainese York Air Shoes, and it is absolutely fine. It might be different settings for other markets...
Hi. Question on the seat height. You mentioned you are 180 (I am 178)
How do you find the seat height in off-road situations… Thanks
Hey James and thank you for the question.
After two years on Husky 701 with seat height at 925 mm, KTM with 879mm seems a bit more manageable, but without a doubt this is not a bike you can comfortably put two feet down on the ground (at least I can't). I've learnt to use one leg for all situations, also in off-road stuff. Confidence level is much lower than on my CRF250, but it is not discouraging me from riding ;)
Best!
I don't bother looking at the fuel gauge or range. Just go by the kms.
and it makes perfect sense!
Cheers mate.
Hej. Fajny materiał. Jak porównujesz z 701 masę tego motocykla w terenie. Różnica dość znaczna...około 50 kg... jazda w błocie, koleinach itd...
Hej Docent i dzięki za komentarz. Bez dwóch zdań czuć tę dodatkową wagę motocykla, zwłaszcza przy wolnych manewrach. Ale jak już jedzie, to idzie to jak dzik...
Powiem Ci tak - na początku na tyle brakowało mi po zamianie lekkiego motocykla, że kupiłem CRF250L jako drugi i tylko do zabaw offroadowych, bo początkowo trochę nie ogarniałem tego KTMa. Ale im więcej nim jeżdżę, tym rzadziej sięgam teraz pod CRF250. Ogólnie, jak już pierwszy opór minie, to 890 jest naprawdę wdzięcznym moto w offie.
Pozdro!
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Rafał, to jeszcze inaczej zapytam. Sam mam kanał więc wiem, komentarze w cenie😊.
Jedziesz jutro na TET POLSKA
w garażu stoją 701 i 890 . Co bierzesz dzisiaj?
Analogicznie, na przykład., jedziesz TETem na Nordcap , nie wiesz jak będzie. Co bierzesz?
a to dobre pytanie!
Jeśli jechałbym z całym sprzętem do campingu, to pewnie chętniej zrobiłbym polski TET na 890. W tym tygodniu jadę na krótki wypad z namiotem i całym szpejem do biwakowania i cieszę się, że pojadę 890tką.
Jeśli to byłaby jedno-, dwudniowa wycieczka w wersji light ze spaniem na kwaterach -> chętniej na 701.
Ale już na Nordkapp tylko i wyłącznie 890.
Jechałem do Rumunii i z powrtotem na 701 - da radę to zrobić, ale... można wygodniej. Ja już dobiegam do 50tki, więc pewne aspekty związane z wygodą zaczynają nabierać znaczenia.
Ważne jest też to, czy jedziesz sam czy w towarzystwie. A jeśli w towarzystwie, to jakie towarzystwo ma moto. Bo jeśli oni są też na siglach, to nikt nie będzie cisnął zbyt szybko na możliwości 701, ale jak już mają twiny, to będąc na 701 zwalniasz grupę (tak, ja wiem, można na tym moto pojechać szybko, ale po pierwsze to będzie strach w oczach, dojedziesz roztrzęsiony i tankowanie będzie co 150km).
Myślę, że jazdy testowe dużo Ci wyjaśnią. Jeśli mogę podpowiedzieć, to też też 690 na autostradę i zobacz, czy przy 120-130 km/h nie ma dla Ciebie za dużo wibracji (mi od nich drętwiały ręce, więc zakładałem PHDS i było trochę lepiej). No i kanapa - w 690/701 to jest duży temat przy dłuższych wyprawach. Na 890 spędziłem 2 tyg w Maroko i ani razu nie było problemu z siedzeniem...
Dziękuję Ci bardzo. To mi bardzo dużo mówi. Szerokości
dzisiaj wpadł mi w oko artykuł na jednej ze stron opisujących platformę 690/701 i zgadzam się ze stwierdzeniem: "motocykl został stworzony z myślą o jednodniowych wycieczkach, więc jeśli przerobisz go na motocykl turystyczny ADV i okaże się niewygodny, możesz winić tylko siebie..." - tak dokładnie, nic dodać nic ująć :)
Jestem Tobie niezmiernie wdzięczny za pamięć i dodatkowe informacje. Wykorzystam Twoją cierpliwość i zadam jeszcze jedno pytanie. O Hondzie. Znam jej ograniczenia, ale chciałbym je pominąć. Wielu ludzi na Hondzie jeździ po świecie, pewnie ze względu na zaufanie i możliwość napraw. Jednak w pewnych aspektach jest podobna do 701 ( wąska kanapa, wielkość) . Czy można zatem wysnuć wniosek, że gdybym zdecydował się pojechać Hondą w długą podróż to równie dobrze, a może i lepiej będzie mi na 690 KTM?
a o której Hondzie rozmawiamy? O CRF 300 Rally?
No heat issues? Everyone says its roasts your legs alive? I commute, tour and ride offroad and my current GS is a little warm on my legs when in the city or very slow rocky sections but Ive heard this bike completely roasts you.
Hey there and thank you for the comment.
Surprisingly, the Norden 901 Expedition I tested had a more noticeable heating issue than the 890 Adv R. Both bikes generate a lot of heat due to the Euro 5 emissions standard and large catalytic converter, especially when riding slowly or at stops.
So yes, heat is an issue, but with current emission regulations it will probably be something we need to get used to... :/
2025 or 2024 ?
this is a 2023 model.
Cheers!
@@CykloGamonie thanks for clarification. Title says 2025. Haven’t seen any literature on 2025 models yet.
for me cruise control is waste of money. I have it for free on bike and never use it
even when you are riding on highways for few hours? or you do not ride highways for long distances?
For me cruise control is a feature I would not buy an adventure bike without. Cheers!
@@CykloGamonie even 10h on highway… for what u need to put cruise control? I do a lot highways
well, at least to give my right wrist some rest. For me this is super comfortable when riding for few hours.
@@CykloGamonie very dangerous! Often people put hands somewhere else when using CC!
I was doing 600km per day in last trip never had a problem w wrist. Not using CC
@@michsky46 There is no point in delving further into whether it is worth having or not having Cruise Control.
But personally I like it and use it a lot bot on highway and in slow steady traffic ;)
Now have your valves and cams checked.....
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I will, I will, but so far bike works flawlessly. Fingers crossed.
No need until 30,000 for valves