Ford Model T - Replacing Transmission Band Linings
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In this video, I show you in detail, the procedure for re-lining the transmission bands on your Ford Model T
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I imported my 1925 Ford Model T from the USA, not far from Detroit, Michigan where it was built.
The Model T was manufactured between 1908 and 1927, and was know by various names including Tin Lizzie, Flivver, T‑Model Ford, or just 'T'.
The Model T set 1908 as the historic year that the automobile became popular. It is generally regarded as the first affordable automobile, the car that opened travel to the common middle-class American; some of this was because of Ford's innovations, including assembly line production instead of individual hand crafting.
On May 26, 1927, Henry Ford watched the 15 millionth Model T Ford roll off the assembly line at his factory in Highland Park, Michigan. 
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Mitch! Thank you so much for the videos to a 4th generation (but learning everything for the first time) T-owner! Sending good vibes from Memphis US
What an amazingly simple little car it was.
You are reminding of things I thought I long forgot. This is cool. Thank you.
Hey Mitch, Thanks from Binghamton, NY USA. Ron
Nice to see you using cotton linings. Drive correctly, and they last well and no worries about ruining the drums.
You can speed up the soaking in process by using automatic transmission fluid.
The bendix should be removed before unscrewing the starter motor because if the bendix should rest against the magneto windings under the weight of the starter motor, the insulation is likely to be damaged.
When relining the bands, the end of the lining should be only a few mm over the end of the band, and the end rivets put in first. There will be a lump in the middle of the lining as a result, but this is simply 'massaged' out so the lining is flat against the band. Then the other rivets are installed.
One problem with starting with the lining overlapping the ends is that not all linings are the same length, so you could be caught short (some Scandinavian repros made by Cantex had this problem). Also, if the ends are riveted first, you might find that as you rivet further along the band the lining starts to want to stretch - the lining now being tighter against the band that when simply holding it by hand.
You have the right riveting technique, but to save damaging the material when flattening down the rivet, use a ball pein hammer.
Mitch,
I agree that the transmission band linings need to be flush at ends.
I did my first set of transmission band linings incorrectly and the lining was stretched between each rivet. That first set quickly wore out.
I subsequently have done many more sets in my 40 years of Model T restorations and the band linings last longer when done correctly.
Thank you for posting this video.
More videos like this please.
Nice video, Mitch. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for video , from UK !
How do the pedals pull in the bands when they're moving perpendicular to the tension direction? There must be some kind of cam or something right?
Hey Mitch, I can't thank you enough for these videos! My dad's '15 (he completely restored when I was a boy) is now in my garage and I've been learning things the hard way... one of which is that I likely toasted the brakes. I was watching this video and you pulled the hogs head to change bands. Here are a couple questions:
Was it necessary to pull the hogs head or could you have done it without pulling it? Or better asked, is it that much easier to change them by pulling the hogs head? I barely remember the work my dad did so I'm like ok Ing for the best advice I can get.
Can the brake band be adjusted prior to replacing them or do I just have to replace them?
Are all three bands the same including the liners (are they interchangeable)?
Again, thanks for the videos!
Top Video!!!!
Glad you removed the keys! bless my quick change bands......
Nice video,, interesting. I'm thinking about buying one as an extra toy, my muscle car is always breaking. Did you put new gaskets on the hogshead?
Excellent videos!
Who keeps down-voting these? Explain yourselves...heathens.
What name of the song's opening??
I have two questions for you. What kind of transmission oil works best and is it OK to run synthetic oil in the engine?
+Russell Sova Hi, Matt here. I'm a MTFCA member an owner of a Model T chassis and maintain my grandfather's 1924 Roadster for him too. Honestly just about any modern car oil is of higher quality than the molasses like stuff they used back in the day so you really can't go wrong. 10W-30 is a favorite for many club member for normal spring-fall driving. Synthetic is alright. An important note though: if your motor has not been disassembled and cleaned try to avoid using detergent based oils. They work so well you're likely to gum up the works as it cleans out a century worth of garbage. If you go detergent based change the oil often for the first couple thousand miles (like every 200 miles until it's cleaned out).
I suppose it's best to get the Ford manual. You did not show how to set up the adjustment once the bands were reinstalled.....
I have another video on RUclips which shows how to do that.
funny, you missed the part about hooking them back up and adjusting them. Important I would guess. ?
I am so thankful for your videos! In the service manual I find no mention of transmission fluid. How is transmission fluid kept full? How is it drained and replaced? What sort of fluid is used? Thank you!
L. E. Brookshire the T doesn't use trans fluid. It uses the same oil as the motor
The transmission uses the oil from the engine crankcase.
How is it that the ends of the metal lining rivets don't scrape the drums?
The rivets will rub the drum when the lining wears out. They're brass so they won't hurt the drum unless the car is driven a lot with worn out bands.
What are those band linings used for
its basically the equivalent of brake pads or clutch disk material of a modern car. If you have metal on metal, you'd have no slip, BUT they would destroy one another.
The cotton linings give the friction needed to remove slip, but become the sacrifice of the system, so instead of replacing expensive metal parts, only a cotton band has to be replaced.
Did you have a six or twelve volt battery on yours? I bought a 1925 Ford Model T a year ago and I'm almost ready to put a battery in, my grandpa used to have a model t with a six volt, and he says that a six volt really is not powerful enough, and we spoke to an expert who claimed you could just bolt in a twelve volt battery and you would be fine, is that true?
87craftsmanCUBE The battery is only used for starting so if your stater motor can handle 12 volts then yes its fine.
87craftsmanCUBE Strictly speaking, NO. Never connect 12 volts to a Model T starter motor, else it it will burn out the windings and break the bendix gear -- fact.
I have 3 model-T's and all run on 12 volts with 6 volt starters and no problems. You don't run the starter long enough to hurt them. If you have electric lights you will need to change the bulbs to 12 volts or they will burn out. Coils can stand 12 volts and will start faster on the extra voltage.
As long as the starter, battery, cables and switch are in good shape and all connections are tight and clean a 6 volt battery cranks the engine more than fast enough. While a lot of people use 12 volt batteries it is absolutely not necessary and is much more likely to damage the bendix drive and flywheel ring gear.
You do realize that it is not necessary to remove the hogshead to replace the bands of the transmission and go through removing the starter u-joint and all that they make a tool for removing the bands and installing the new bands. www.snydersantiqueauto.com/band-tool it is much quicker and easier than removing the hogshead and does not require and new gasket. By the way if the hogshead gasket has been on their since the last time the bands were replaced the gasket needs to be replaced also. If the gasket is in good shape that means that the transmission bands are either cheap quality or improperly adjusted causing them to wear to fast.
I know it's not technically necessary, but it does make the job a little easier and less fiddly than working through the transmission cover lol....
I don't know about that I found that using the band tool only takes about an hour to remove and install new bands including riveting new band material. I admit it takes practice but with practice it goes faster and you learn the tricks to get it to go smooth. But I still think in your video you should mention that this is not the only way and give your viewers the option to do like you or investigate other options.
A time when you could actually work on your cars.