that´s stupid, paid your courses you will see it is not like YT but a lot more, to not to speak about time saving, in YT evrybovy is an engineer and most part of time you will fing they are only sellers, Brandon Li is one of the few from you can be influenced but you will never learn to work as he work watching his YT videos, totally stupid to me what you are saying
You are by far, one of the few RUclipsrs who explain stuff really really well. Other people can get things done, they make how-to videos or review a gadget or a software, but cannot go into explaining the logic behind how’s and why’s. I like how your videos are straightforward, well-thought, very well explained, honest, and most of all, very informative. No time wasted when watching your videos.
I am currently enrolled in one of the top film school programs in the world, in Los Angeles, but would actually recommend *against* film school . . . . . . so *I'm dropping out* AND HERE'S WHY: There's nothing you can learn in film school that you can't learn outside of it. The thing is, you must make it your full-time job to educate yourself, network, get experience, network more, volunteer on sets/productions, etc. Film school helps facilitate those things for you, but at a MASSIVE cost--we're talking upwards of $100,000--and that is simply not worth the price for most people. Actively search out information on every single part of the industry with RUclips, Reddit, other random filmmaking forums, etc. while also reaching out to other amateurs, new people to the industry, and even established professionals to ask them questions, advice, and interviews to help you learn from them. Go to colleges, meet students there, volunteer to work for them and learn on set with them. Film students will often love to have extra help, and are willing to answer your questions. Keep these contacts and continue to grow your knowledge. Volunteer for these people, work with these people, grow with these people. You can absolutely start your career without film school, but the key is my wording. *YOU* must start *your* career. If you aren't passionate enough to put in the time and work (which you have to do while in film school and after you graduate as well anyway), than you aren't cut out for the industry, because that is the entire industry life. If you put all the time and effort that you would've put into film school into starting your career independently--which means working at least full-time, every day of the week, in order to improve and grow your connections and skillset--than you can begin your career around $100,000 richer than you would've been otherwise (or not $100,000 in debt, that is). Of course, this is from a classic "film industry" perspective. If you just want to make youtube videos, vlogs, or super tiny productions like filming events, weddings, travel, etc. than you can mostly do that yourself right now with minimal youtube training. The only valuable thing film school has done for me is the initial connection to other people interested in film and producing short films. So if you don't go to film school, this is something you have to do for yourself by being brave and going out there looking. It is completely possible if you have the drive and work ethic, and is even a preferred path by many industry professionals who see film students as arrogant kids who think their degree means they are talented (which isn't too uncommon). In general, for on-set production jobs, your previous work/projects are what matters, NOT a degree. Brandon's advice in this video hits a lot of similar points to me, and I agree with him fyi.
Specter Ranger, thanks for this man, I’m really struggling to choice in going or not. Being 25 and now being able to support myself to actually go to a film school is a great feeling, but I question wither going is a really good idea. In the past I struggled with choices I’ve made, a relationship, jobs, and money that made my passion for film gone from my head. Now that things are going great for me single, with a 75k career, strong, and alive. All I have now is this passion that I’ve ignored in the past since a child. Do I spend $70k for school or invest in myself? I have some gear. Some writings that my younger cousin and I work on. I guess wanting to go to a film school would make me feel like I did something with my life, but a degree that is meaningless to the industry is pointless to even go. Half the stuff I know now was from this burning passion and self learning. I even go to night clubs to recorded because you know those promoters are hungry for the babes. It was a way for me to better understand the camera on my own. Editing. Lighting in dark rooms, sound from the loud music. Maybe I’m just venting out the frustration on here because what you say is honestly 1000% the fucking truth. I need to find people like me to work on things too, something I’m missing. Dreaming is easy but living it, doing it, is what makes me feel so alive!!!!
Benefits to film school for me that have paid off: 1) Engaged instructors who were passionate about teaching. 2) Building contacts and relationships that ended up lasting me my entire career so far. (I'm a professional editor on film and tv series and I'm working in a building with 4 people from my graduating class.) 3) Credentials: Not sure it's 100% needed later on in your career, but early on sometimes a Degree is all you have apart from some bitty work here and there to your name and that might make an employer want to hire you. You don't need film school to learn, youtube is great for that, even in film school i did most of my learning through my own channels. This was BEFORE youtube days, but the contacts I made, the interaction with the industry professionals and my degree have proven invaluable in my career. Great video though, it's a big topic that has many answers I think depending on where you live (access to good schools) budget (tuition has gotten INSANE last 10 years) etc.
So it was basically the people you met, not the industry itself. I knew a classmate who did not go to film or acting school and made connections by auditioning in plays in LA (that's where he and I live) and never step foot in a film or acting class. He does well now. He went up to TV and short films and the pay is okay for his roles since they are minor.
I know what it is, Brandon, the thing that your audience loves about you. First they read the comments and check Facebook yadda, yadda, yadda... The bottom line is that you're humble. And that self assured, "can do" or "can try, fail and learn" attitude pervades your work. It's what we all need to learn most. Yes, your top finished products are ridiculously well done. We all study and aspire. But you didn't just poop them out. This has been a long road for you that hit the Vimeo/RUclips intersection a while back and now we all watch and learn. Want to make movies? Your timely advice, I think, is to do it to make yourself happy first and foremost. The rest is gravy. JR Hook
Hey Brandon, I wanted to thank for always being short, concise, and informative. If you ever get time a video on workflow would be extremely helpful! Keep it up and thanks for all the insight.
0 responses from 100 resumes, wow. I'd say that took some motivational thinking to still keep moving forward. Something I personally struggle a lot is something you mention in the video: having to deal with other people's criticism. It usually follows a pattern: 1. client: "oh, just do what you want to do, that's fine with me". 2. I deliver the film for approval 3. Now all of a sudden the client's wife, a co-worker, a golfer friend and two neighbors told the client what they would do differently and of course now you have to somehow address those opinions or explain in detail why some of those ideas just don't make sense. Painful. Every time. Thanks for sharing your experiences, Brandon.
Haha that's exactly what happens every time with clients. "Blank slate" until they see what I come up with. Even if they like it, they ask for changed because their boss might not like it. That's why I make personal projects..so nobody can tell me what to do.
Coming from Graphic Design (2D) background, exact same thing-school helped me learn to withstand others ripping apart my work, or just suggesting different approaches...so that needs to happen prior to jumping into paid professional contract work. Must know how to communicate precisely with clients, so having that critique situation for a grade first is best, rather than money and time on the line. To have open mind about ideas, yet skills to persuade client when your ideas are more marketable-all that is probably easier in classroom first, then real-world.
I genuinely believe what you say in this video. I've heard somewhat similar advise other places, but the way you present it just makes it - and you - so trustworthy. Thanks a lot!
Nice! So much wisdom - wish I watched this five years ago! I made a video about this too - I went to film school and it's just some tips looking back. Love your vids!
This is so inspiring! I know I'm way too far from making money out of my videos, but I will continue to travel, make more videos, and eventually improve my style and my basic filming and editing skills which I learned from people like you. I'm a housewife, 36, and I hope I'm not too old to start a new career which I love lol! Thank you for inspiring us! Mad respect and lots of love from the Philippines! 😘
I hope this video go all corners of the globe in direction to all aspiring filmmakers. This is what to know before making any formal decision to start a career in the film industry of today. I love the video, this is very instructive from A to Z.
Hi Brandon Li, you are the one inspired me a lot on how to be a filmmaker, especially becoming a travel filmmaker, i watched all of your personal products and commercial products to analyze and learn techniques, the way you tell your stories and how you use sound effect, i even print your profile photo to get inspiried everyday. Now i'm currently on my biggest project:" Color of the world". Thank you for your films, big fan from Vietnam.
Another great video! Thx for sharing your story Brandon. We went to film school under the dated model of Hollywood filmmaking and roles. But now the jack of all trades, nibble filmmaker is a whole new ball game. And ultimately allows for a better business model, lifestyle, and creative freedom.
Unfortunately simply learning on youtube doesn't leave you with any credentials or contacts. I remember my first day of film school and our TV studio teacher said "look around, these are the faces you'll be working with the rest of your careers". She was bang on. I graduated in 2002 and I'm constantly working with fellow graduates. The co-op also helped land me my first paid gig after graduation. Depending on the film school there is REAL value having working professionals who are passing their knowledge onto you. I love RUclips, it's a great resource but knowing how to "make cinematic video" or "make next trendy transition" does not a better filmmaker make. It's an art form, that runs deep and to have a better understanding of it and the themes you're trying to convey, you need a critical understanding of it. I graduated and thought the same thing though, film school was a waste, only now so many years after graduating do I see the value of it. You definitely do NOT need it to succeed the same way Zuckerberg didn't need a Havard Degree to make Facebook. I guess my point is it's highly complicated and you don't want to throttle your potential for the future if say filmmaking isn't something you find yourself passionate about in 15 years.
I don't disagree with you. I guess it's a different journey for everyone. The reason I said what I said was because all though people always say create with what you have, it's not that easy anymore especially in 2017 because the bar is being set really high in terms of quality so a person shooting on their iPhone vs someone with a gh4/80d/a7sii etc will always produce better content (provided they know what they are doing of course). Personally, I feel the quality of the work trumps the credentials. I won't deny that the networking part of film school won't be beneficial though, because it definitely will as this business is all about who you know. I never went to film school simply because I could not afford it. what I did was ask my friends if i could shoot their events/weddings/birthdays for free to gain experience that way and watched 100s of hours on RUclips/read online to learn the little things. Don't get me wrong, If i had the money, I would have gone to film school but for me, living in a 3rd world country, it was either purchase a camera(a Nikon D3300) or pay a deposit to go to film school. I shot with the D3300 with a kit lens (terrible lens) but I made it work and charged very little for video work. I saved up for the 50mm 1.8g and my quality tripled. a year later, that d3300 ended up paying for my a7si and a zhiyun crane v2. I get where you are coming from though. Not many people is as determined as I was to learn on their own (or know the basics) and they need guidance, A LOT of guidance If there is anyone reading this that chooses to go the 'buying the equipment' route, I'd say be prepared to go into smaller lesser known stores and businesses and ask to speak to their marketing team (always try to speak to them face-to-face, you'll get better answers and they can see your personality and determination come through) and see if you can shoot something for them. build relationships with them and produce the best content you possibly can. charge little to nothing (get a other job to pay for bills - if you still living with your parents now is the perfect time to take advantage of that because you can focus entirely on your craft and not have to worry about bills) All it takes is shooting one super great video for you to show other businesses and they might hire you. But before you even approach any businesses, make sure you know what you are doing.After a while, your work will speak for itself and you'll be on your way to making your passion a full time job. It takes a lot of hard work. there is no easy way to make it.
Well said mate. And I completely agree. I do think it’s important to get some forum of post secondary education, doesn’t have to be film school. Cost sucks though but it’s anninvestment in yourself. I know lots of people who went to film school and aren’t even in the profession any longer or who didn’t go to film school and are in the profession. Production quality is one thing, but if you can tell a compelling story than it doesn’t matter how it looks. I truly believe that. Looking good only holds up if the content is solid. They don’t teach you how to maleness better content, they teach you how to make it ok better. You simply can’t teach the nuances of story telling and filmmaking in 8 min videos. Much easier to “how to make shots look a cinematic” (slow motion/color grading etc) when what really makes a shot cinematic is how it pertains to the story being told. There are loads of ways to get in as you say. First and foremost love the craft ;) the drive, quality and work will come.
Yes you have to be dynamic...so many variables. I’m lucky I live in a city where loads of production happens. I did events on the side while editing at ad agencies and then much music. Moved onto tv series and films from there so lots of hard work but also lots of opportunity. If I lived in some small city woo little commercial production I would go the event/wedding rout for sure. Buy a camera, editing system and go nuts. That’s exactly what I did when I started school. 11k with of gear, made 59,000 that first year. Worked my ass off though because of that initial start Up capital. Good convo dude, appreciate your perspective.
Thanks for this Brandon! I always thought that all the other procedures and technical stuff could be learned on your own. But that storytelling structure is the key.
Brandon - thank you for your valuable perspective, and practical advice on this. I'm graduating from film school @ Vancouver in March, and I had a very similar experience to what you described. As a fan, it's really enlightening to hear how you started, and you do always kinda hear the same thing - just go do it. Right now my goal is getting most of my gear together before school is over. Thanks again for all of your useful content - hope to work with you someday 😁
Whoa Brandon! I’m a fellow pickle as well! class of ’11. Fan of your work and it pleases me to know we went to the same place! Many of the points you have I share as well (and made a video about it as well) Thanks for sharing your views!
I follow all the top RUclipsrs who have addressed this question and none of them have answered it this well. They all generally say, "Film school is good for some, but not every one and you can succeed without film school." I always look forward to your content as I feel it is very informative.
I went to Visual art school in Shanghai, major is producing, and I have graduated for almost 4 years, all I know is I don't remember any information from school. What I totally agree with Brandon is the things I learn in three months from internship working on a TV show for SMG(Shanghai Media Group) is way more than 4 years of school.BYW Brandon li! You have such a nice personality, I and my colleague are all your follower, haha.
The best thing about going to film school is you will learn the basics. It would be like attending engineering college, you learn how to build something correctly.
Thats amazing sir. The answer that i was looking for so many days, now finally got it. I am trying to make career in film making just through youtube tutorial. You story is very inspiring. I'll definitely follow your steps sir. 😊
Thanks for clarifying the difference between RUclips and Vimeo, I think that was really valuable to know so I know I’m posting my stuff in the right place. I’d like to know more about your journey and what you think are the best things that happened along the way because I’m trying to follow your path and become a nomad filmmaker. Thanks for everything you’re the best!
Oh Wow, very good advice's and insight. Follow your hart , do what you love to do and get good at it. Perhaps why i love your short movies. Thanks Brandon for sharing.
Wow that is awesome. I have been making videos for a while. Specifically martial arts videos are my favorite to make but I also have been doing a variety of videos for over 15 years. Went to school for graphic design, learned and experienced a lot. Made so many short films. Yet still, can't get into the Film Industry or find my own clients. The way I see it, it's all about who you know and bringing value to people. which is my weakness. I want to create content that is valuable and draws interest in people to want to share it and demand more. And I want to network with others to build up my network especially with those whom are already doing it successfully. Maybe, someday I will break through and figure out how to create films as a career rather than a hobby.
Thanks for your thoughts Brandon :) Iwish I could go to a film school but I really don't have much time and the little free time I have is for me to make my own videos. Trying to figure out my "uniqueness" Cheers!
Very helpful, and very encouraging ! Thank you Brandon for your videos, your insight on the subjects you choose to talk about is so interesting ! Merci :)
I've worked side by side with guys that have gone to film school and honestly our skills and knowledge are basically the same. Anything you want to know these days, you can learn online for free or pay for courses that are much cheaper than tuition. The only advantage I've heard is networking--and even that can be done without film school....I would never go--at least not now seeing that my capabilities are the same as alumni.
Great stuff man. I volunteered for a film studio and now working there. I don't have time to make a passion project cause I having too much fun with my job
Brandon - great advice. I'd like to hear how you learned filmmaking fundamentals like composition and lighting. Did you just pick this up on the job when you were working? These are probably the most neglected aspects of the art in terms of teaching yourself, so I'd be interested in any resources or other recommendations.
I dont agree with people telling you to change your style of filming or photography based on what they think is right or wrong. Why would you tell an artist that the way he or she has created something is incorrect. Its a matter of personal opinion. Did someone look at a picaso and say the brush strokes are incorrect? Everyone is an expert in there own mind. Film and photography is an art form thats original to the creator. Only when you are not happy with what you have created it is then no good. You need to be a critick of your own work and have a mind of your own.
I have to disagree. Constantly getting positive feedback because nobody wants to tell you what they really think is very harmful for your development as an artist. I've always found that getting a lot of opinions is useful even if you disregard 70% of what people say. Often it's the little things that really help. Like maybe your style is great, but your timing is a little off, and having a few extra pairs of eyes is that little tip you need to improve.
If you ever happen to visit Namibia, I will be more than happy to help you for free... your work is really inspiring... I just shoot basic build videos, but I am really developing an interest for a more artistic style of video... keep up the good work man...
Nice insight bro!! I got to learn filming just by looking at guys like you on youtube. The only down side is that technically I dont really dont know shit HAHA but I can produce films and I do it for companys all the time. I am on a net of 300k right now... and still growing. I think as longest you want to grow there will be paths to choose and it doesnt always need to be exactly like everybody elses path.
RUclips is the new film school and for anything you want to learn.
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that´s stupid, paid your courses you will see it is not like YT but a lot more, to not to speak about time saving, in YT evrybovy is an engineer and most part of time you will fing they are only sellers, Brandon Li is one of the few from you can be influenced but you will never learn to work as he work watching his YT videos, totally stupid to me what you are saying
@@nandoblondemobydick5438 Of course, one of the processes of learning is by actually doing.
True. I learned how to program, solve Physics, create designs, and cook from RUclips alone. School is just a hindrance off you ask me.
@jaspal singh I just wrote a short list.
You are by far, one of the few RUclipsrs who explain stuff really really well. Other people can get things done, they make how-to videos or review a gadget or a software, but cannot go into explaining the logic behind how’s and why’s. I like how your videos are straightforward, well-thought, very well explained, honest, and most of all, very informative. No time wasted when watching your videos.
Yup!
Totally agree.
I am currently enrolled in one of the top film school programs in the world, in Los Angeles, but would actually recommend *against* film school . . .
. . . so *I'm dropping out*
AND HERE'S WHY:
There's nothing you can learn in film school that you can't learn outside of it. The thing is, you must make it your full-time job to educate yourself, network, get experience, network more, volunteer on sets/productions, etc. Film school helps facilitate those things for you, but at a MASSIVE cost--we're talking upwards of $100,000--and that is simply not worth the price for most people. Actively search out information on every single part of the industry with RUclips, Reddit, other random filmmaking forums, etc. while also reaching out to other amateurs, new people to the industry, and even established professionals to ask them questions, advice, and interviews to help you learn from them. Go to colleges, meet students there, volunteer to work for them and learn on set with them. Film students will often love to have extra help, and are willing to answer your questions. Keep these contacts and continue to grow your knowledge. Volunteer for these people, work with these people, grow with these people. You can absolutely start your career without film school, but the key is my wording. *YOU* must start *your* career. If you aren't passionate enough to put in the time and work (which you have to do while in film school and after you graduate as well anyway), than you aren't cut out for the industry, because that is the entire industry life. If you put all the time and effort that you would've put into film school into starting your career independently--which means working at least full-time, every day of the week, in order to improve and grow your connections and skillset--than you can begin your career around $100,000 richer than you would've been otherwise (or not $100,000 in debt, that is). Of course, this is from a classic "film industry" perspective. If you just want to make youtube videos, vlogs, or super tiny productions like filming events, weddings, travel, etc. than you can mostly do that yourself right now with minimal youtube training. The only valuable thing film school has done for me is the initial connection to other people interested in film and producing short films. So if you don't go to film school, this is something you have to do for yourself by being brave and going out there looking. It is completely possible if you have the drive and work ethic, and is even a preferred path by many industry professionals who see film students as arrogant kids who think their degree means they are talented (which isn't too uncommon). In general, for on-set production jobs, your previous work/projects are what matters, NOT a degree.
Brandon's advice in this video hits a lot of similar points to me, and I agree with him fyi.
Specter Ranger, thanks for this man, I’m really struggling to choice in going or not. Being 25 and now being able to support myself to actually go to a film school is a great feeling, but I question wither going is a really good idea. In the past I struggled with choices I’ve made, a relationship, jobs, and money that made my passion for film gone from my head. Now that things are going great for me single, with a 75k career, strong, and alive. All I have now is this passion that I’ve ignored in the past since a child. Do I spend $70k for school or invest in myself? I have some gear. Some writings that my younger cousin and I work on. I guess wanting to go to a film school would make me feel like I did something with my life, but a degree that is meaningless to the industry is pointless to even go. Half the stuff I know now was from this burning passion and self learning. I even go to night clubs to recorded because you know those promoters are hungry for the babes. It was a way for me to better understand the camera on my own. Editing. Lighting in dark rooms, sound from the loud music. Maybe I’m just venting out the frustration on here because what you say is honestly 1000% the fucking truth. I need to find people like me to work on things too, something I’m missing. Dreaming is easy but living it, doing it, is what makes me feel so alive!!!!
Man u are so inspirational and You explain alot of valuable informations for free! I really hope u stay here for more 50 years
Benefits to film school for me that have paid off: 1) Engaged instructors who were passionate about teaching. 2) Building contacts and relationships that ended up lasting me my entire career so far. (I'm a professional editor on film and tv series and I'm working in a building with 4 people from my graduating class.) 3) Credentials: Not sure it's 100% needed later on in your career, but early on sometimes a Degree is all you have apart from some bitty work here and there to your name and that might make an employer want to hire you.
You don't need film school to learn, youtube is great for that, even in film school i did most of my learning through my own channels. This was BEFORE youtube days, but the contacts I made, the interaction with the industry professionals and my degree have proven invaluable in my career.
Great video though, it's a big topic that has many answers I think depending on where you live (access to good schools) budget (tuition has gotten INSANE last 10 years) etc.
you have given a neat and clean and simple explanation
In short, it might be color coded?
So it was basically the people you met, not the industry itself. I knew a classmate who did not go to film or acting school and made connections by auditioning in plays in LA (that's where he and I live) and never step foot in a film or acting class.
He does well now. He went up to TV and short films and the pay is okay for his roles since they are minor.
Great advice right here!
Motorz amen
It's 1 40 AM and I'm very motivated after watching this
one of my favorite filmmakers out there. thanks for sharing brandon!
I know what it is, Brandon, the thing that your audience loves about you. First they read the comments and check Facebook yadda, yadda, yadda... The bottom line is that you're humble. And that self assured, "can do" or "can try, fail and learn" attitude pervades your work. It's what we all need to learn most. Yes, your top finished products are ridiculously well done. We all study and aspire. But you didn't just poop them out. This has been a long road for you that hit the Vimeo/RUclips intersection a while back and now we all watch and learn. Want to make movies? Your timely advice, I think, is to do it to make yourself happy first and foremost. The rest is gravy. JR Hook
Thanks for sharing your experiences Brandon!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Brandon. Every video you make I learn something.
Great video! Thanks for the insights on film school. 100 resumes and 0 responses is seriously no bueno...
And he is neither white nor black. That didn't help either.
Such honest and candid take. Thank you for being real and not just glossing over or glamorising 'film school'...
Hey Brandon, I wanted to thank for always being short, concise, and informative. If you ever get time a video on workflow would be extremely helpful!
Keep it up and thanks for all the insight.
I second this. god knows an amateur like me needs a way to go through nearly 1000 clips in the fastest way possible lol
I have great videos on workflow on my channel - ruclips.net/channel/UCug6Gnyb2BtVoBmlhcypQFw?
0 responses from 100 resumes, wow. I'd say that took some motivational thinking to still keep moving forward. Something I personally struggle a lot is something you mention in the video: having to deal with other people's criticism. It usually follows a pattern: 1. client: "oh, just do what you want to do, that's fine with me". 2. I deliver the film for approval 3. Now all of a sudden the client's wife, a co-worker, a golfer friend and two neighbors told the client what they would do differently and of course now you have to somehow address those opinions or explain in detail why some of those ideas just don't make sense. Painful. Every time. Thanks for sharing your experiences, Brandon.
Haha that's exactly what happens every time with clients. "Blank slate" until they see what I come up with. Even if they like it, they ask for changed because their boss might not like it. That's why I make personal projects..so nobody can tell me what to do.
Coming from Graphic Design (2D) background, exact same thing-school helped me learn to withstand others ripping apart my work, or just suggesting different approaches...so that needs to happen prior to jumping into paid professional contract work. Must know how to communicate precisely with clients, so having that critique situation for a grade first is best, rather than money and time on the line. To have open mind about ideas, yet skills to persuade client when your ideas are more marketable-all that is probably easier in classroom first, then real-world.
It's very nice to listen and watch the way that you share the knowles and the experience that you have. Really, thanks man!
I genuinely believe what you say in this video. I've heard somewhat similar advise other places, but the way you present it just makes it - and you - so trustworthy. Thanks a lot!
2 things I am so excited for, Brandon’s upcoming new film, and Sam Kolder’s “My year 2017”
that's my two favorite videomaker
Solid advice and info, sir. Looking forward to your next piece of visual art coming out.
Super Encouraging! Doing what u love instead of what the markets demand is soooo important to personal happiness!
Nice! So much wisdom - wish I watched this five years ago! I made a video about this too - I went to film school and it's just some tips looking back. Love your vids!
This is so inspiring! I know I'm way too far from making money out of my videos, but I will continue to travel, make more videos, and eventually improve my style and my basic filming and editing skills which I learned from people like you. I'm a housewife, 36, and I hope I'm not too old to start a new career which I love lol! Thank you for inspiring us! Mad respect and lots of love from the Philippines! 😘
I hope this video go all corners of the globe in direction to all aspiring filmmakers. This is what to know before making any formal decision to start a career in the film industry of today. I love the video, this is very instructive from A to Z.
Hi Brandon Li, you are the one inspired me a lot on how to be a filmmaker, especially becoming a travel filmmaker, i watched all of your personal products and commercial products to analyze and learn techniques, the way you tell your stories and how you use sound effect, i even print your profile photo to get inspiried everyday. Now i'm currently on my biggest project:" Color of the world". Thank you for your films, big fan from Vietnam.
I have been thinking about joining a film school for a while now. I know what to do now, thank you Brandon for sharing!
weapon! so much truth in this
Another great video! Thx for sharing your story Brandon. We went to film school under the dated model of Hollywood filmmaking and roles. But now the jack of all trades, nibble filmmaker is a whole new ball game. And ultimately allows for a better business model, lifestyle, and creative freedom.
Thanks Brandon, needed this advice this week before I venture out into this industry in 2018.
I learn a lot from your videos bro. Keep up the good work.
Don't go. Invest the money you would have paid for school into gear. Way more beneficial. RUclips is a great place to learn.
Unfortunately simply learning on youtube doesn't leave you with any credentials or contacts. I remember my first day of film school and our TV studio teacher said "look around, these are the faces you'll be working with the rest of your careers". She was bang on. I graduated in 2002 and I'm constantly working with fellow graduates. The co-op also helped land me my first paid gig after graduation. Depending on the film school there is REAL value having working professionals who are passing their knowledge onto you. I love RUclips, it's a great resource but knowing how to "make cinematic video" or "make next trendy transition" does not a better filmmaker make.
It's an art form, that runs deep and to have a better understanding of it and the themes you're trying to convey, you need a critical understanding of it.
I graduated and thought the same thing though, film school was a waste, only now so many years after graduating do I see the value of it.
You definitely do NOT need it to succeed the same way Zuckerberg didn't need a Havard Degree to make Facebook.
I guess my point is it's highly complicated and you don't want to throttle your potential for the future if say filmmaking isn't something you find yourself passionate about in 15 years.
I don't disagree with you. I guess it's a different journey for everyone. The reason I said what I said was because all though people always say create with what you have, it's not that easy anymore especially in 2017 because the bar is being set really high in terms of quality so a person shooting on their iPhone vs someone with a gh4/80d/a7sii etc will always produce better content (provided they know what they are doing of course). Personally, I feel the quality of the work trumps the credentials. I won't deny that the networking part of film school won't be beneficial though, because it definitely will as this business is all about who you know. I never went to film school simply because I could not afford it. what I did was ask my friends if i could shoot their events/weddings/birthdays for free to gain experience that way and watched 100s of hours on RUclips/read online to learn the little things. Don't get me wrong, If i had the money, I would have gone to film school but for me, living in a 3rd world country, it was either purchase a camera(a Nikon D3300) or pay a deposit to go to film school. I shot with the D3300 with a kit lens (terrible lens) but I made it work and charged very little for video work. I saved up for the 50mm 1.8g and my quality tripled. a year later, that d3300 ended up paying for my a7si and a zhiyun crane v2. I get where you are coming from though. Not many people is as determined as I was to learn on their own (or know the basics) and they need guidance, A LOT of guidance
If there is anyone reading this that chooses to go the 'buying the equipment' route, I'd say be prepared to go into smaller lesser known stores and businesses and ask to speak to their marketing team (always try to speak to them face-to-face, you'll get better answers and they can see your personality and determination come through) and see if you can shoot something for them. build relationships with them and produce the best content you possibly can. charge little to nothing (get a other job to pay for bills - if you still living with your parents now is the perfect time to take advantage of that because you can focus entirely on your craft and not have to worry about bills) All it takes is shooting one super great video for you to show other businesses and they might hire you. But before you even approach any businesses, make sure you know what you are doing.After a while, your work will speak for itself and you'll be on your way to making your passion a full time job. It takes a lot of hard work. there is no easy way to make it.
Oh, I also recommend getting a website and building a portfolio as you go. There's no right answer. Just do what is best for your situation.
Well said mate. And I completely agree. I do think it’s important to get some forum of post secondary education, doesn’t have to be film school. Cost sucks though but it’s anninvestment in yourself.
I know lots of people who went to film school and aren’t even in the profession any longer or who didn’t go to film school and are in the profession.
Production quality is one thing, but if you can tell a compelling story than it doesn’t matter how it looks. I truly believe that. Looking good only holds up if the content is solid. They don’t teach you how to maleness better content, they teach you how to make it ok better. You simply can’t teach the nuances of story telling and filmmaking in 8 min videos. Much easier to “how to make shots look a cinematic” (slow motion/color grading etc) when what really makes a shot cinematic is how it pertains to the story being told.
There are loads of ways to get in as you say. First and foremost love the craft ;) the drive, quality and work will come.
Yes you have to be dynamic...so many variables. I’m lucky I live in a city where loads of production happens. I did events on the side while editing at ad agencies and then much music. Moved onto tv series and films from there so lots of hard work but also lots of opportunity. If I lived in some small city woo little commercial production I would go the event/wedding rout for sure. Buy a camera, editing system and go nuts. That’s exactly what I did when I started school. 11k with of gear, made 59,000 that first year. Worked my ass off though because of that initial start Up capital.
Good convo dude, appreciate your perspective.
Thanks for this Brandon! I always thought that all the other procedures and technical stuff could be learned on your own. But that storytelling structure is the key.
It always great to hear you speak about your experience and journey. Thanks for sharing. Im happy to see your channel growing!
Thank you for always making informative videos 🌸😊💜
Brandon - thank you for your valuable perspective, and practical advice on this. I'm graduating from film school @ Vancouver in March, and I had a very similar experience to what you described. As a fan, it's really enlightening to hear how you started, and you do always kinda hear the same thing - just go do it. Right now my goal is getting most of my gear together before school is over.
Thanks again for all of your useful content - hope to work with you someday 😁
Whoa Brandon! I’m a fellow pickle as well! class of ’11. Fan of your work and it pleases me to know we went to the same place! Many of the points you have I share as well (and made a video about it as well) Thanks for sharing your views!
Stellar advice thanks man 👌🏼
I really thank you brother li
I follow all the top RUclipsrs who have addressed this question and none of them have answered it this well. They all generally say, "Film school is good for some, but not every one and you can succeed without film school." I always look forward to your content as I feel it is very informative.
I went to Visual art school in Shanghai, major is producing, and I have graduated for almost 4 years, all I know is I don't remember any information from school. What I totally agree with Brandon is the things I learn in three months from internship working on a TV show for SMG(Shanghai Media Group) is way more than 4 years of school.BYW Brandon li! You have such a nice personality, I and my colleague are all your follower, haha.
LEGEND! This information is so valuable. Thanks so much for sharing Brandon!
You are a legend Brandon!! :) Such wise words in such a short time man! Come to NZ... would love to meet you one day.
i am currently enrolled on a film school,and im exactly feeling what you had felt!
@brandon 5:45 your 'UNTIL' phase and those visuals of Haridwar/Rishikesh, India has a deep spiritual connection with your destiny.
shiiiitttt thank you Brandon. Started watching your stuff before I went to a film school
Inspirations.. Thanks Brandon. and more videos like this more often please :)
Wow great insight Brandon thanks for sharing. Your work is very impressive.
You always have something relevant and helpful to say --loved the video.
Thanks for sharing your experience it's really helpful 👍
The best thing about going to film school is you will learn the basics. It would be like attending engineering college, you learn how to build something correctly.
Thanks for your insight, Brandon! You've given me and the rest of us in the comment section something to think about :)
Thats amazing sir. The answer that i was looking for so many days, now finally got it. I am trying to make career in film making just through youtube tutorial. You story is very inspiring. I'll definitely follow your steps sir. 😊
I like the way you edit the videos and the movements. I want to learn from you
Thanks for clarifying the difference between RUclips and Vimeo, I think that was really valuable to know so I know I’m posting my stuff in the right place.
I’d like to know more about your journey and what you think are the best things that happened along the way because I’m trying to follow your path and become a nomad filmmaker.
Thanks for everything you’re the best!
Thanks for the advice !
Feels great to know you got your started in India with your Rishikesh project, Ganges blessed you :)
Perfect advice.
Thanks Brandon. Great practical advice and artistic encouragement...
I needed to hear this. Perfect timing. Thank you.
I just gotta say that you're my favorite RUclipsr!
Oh Wow, very good advice's and insight. Follow your hart , do what you love to do and get good at it. Perhaps why i love your short movies. Thanks Brandon for sharing.
Yup, follow your true dreams.
Much needed video brother. Thank you for sharing the knowledge. Keep creating authentic content 🙌💙🤙
Good and inspirational history! Congrats man!!! Great content always! Keep Rolling!!!
Thanks again. Awesome info
Wow that is awesome. I have been making videos for a while. Specifically martial arts videos are my favorite to make but I also have been doing a variety of videos for over 15 years. Went to school for graphic design, learned and experienced a lot. Made so many short films. Yet still, can't get into the Film Industry or find my own clients. The way I see it, it's all about who you know and bringing value to people. which is my weakness. I want to create content that is valuable and draws interest in people to want to share it and demand more. And I want to network with others to build up my network especially with those whom are already doing it successfully. Maybe, someday I will break through and figure out how to create films as a career rather than a hobby.
Great one. Thank you for sharing your story Brandon!
very valuable! thanks for sharing
Motivating stuff Brandon, thanks for this video.. I have been saying such stuff and not many agree on the practical part
Mate, your content is so valuable. Thanks!
Hi Brandon I always get discouraged and when I see u videos it's gives me a bit of boost.. thanks again fo sharing
Thanks for your thoughts Brandon :)
Iwish I could go to a film school but I really don't have much time and the little free time I have is for me to make my own videos. Trying to figure out my "uniqueness"
Cheers!
I'm agree with you...
Great video and advice! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Awesome content as usual! thanks for sharing your experience!
thank you, i will be graduated this year, your video inspires me a lot
Thank you so much Brandon! Can you please make a video about how to travel to places like you do, how you begin to travel?
Very helpful, and very encouraging ! Thank you Brandon for your videos, your insight on the subjects you choose to talk about is so interesting ! Merci :)
Great video! That gave me a little self confidence, just what I needed!
I've worked side by side with guys that have gone to film school and honestly our skills and knowledge are basically the same. Anything you want to know these days, you can learn online for free or pay for courses that are much cheaper than tuition. The only advantage I've heard is networking--and even that can be done without film school....I would never go--at least not now seeing that my capabilities are the same as alumni.
Great stuff man. I volunteered for a film studio and now working there. I don't have time to make a passion project cause I having too much fun with my job
Brandon - great advice. I'd like to hear how you learned filmmaking fundamentals like composition and lighting. Did you just pick this up on the job when you were working? These are probably the most neglected aspects of the art in terms of teaching yourself, so I'd be interested in any resources or other recommendations.
Thanks for sharing man, super insightful!
Loved this insightful video. Thanks, Brandon
I love this channel!.. Ty Brandon, always great content.
Top notch advice, Brandon!
Great video. Thanks.
Thank you for sharing this! Helped me a lot🙌🏻
100% real advices as always!
This person inspired me soo much.
Thanks for the advice, it was on point!
Thanks Brandon! Great inspiration right there!
Scary to hear this but its a good advice anyway from ur own experienced. Its really help and make me rethink again for my next move. Thank you!
This is really great advice and knowledge!
Honest and inspiring.
TQ Brandon Li always inspiring me!
I dont agree with people telling you to change your style of filming or photography based on what they think is right or wrong. Why would you tell an artist that the way he or she has created something is incorrect. Its a matter of personal opinion. Did someone look at a picaso and say the brush strokes are incorrect? Everyone is an expert in there own mind. Film and photography is an art form thats original to the creator. Only when you are not happy with what you have created it is then no good. You need to be a critick of your own work and have a mind of your own.
yup, I very much believe in finding your true style. Sometimes that means learning other styles and then adapting what you like best.
I have to disagree. Constantly getting positive feedback because nobody wants to tell you what they really think is very harmful for your development as an artist. I've always found that getting a lot of opinions is useful even if you disregard 70% of what people say. Often it's the little things that really help. Like maybe your style is great, but your timing is a little off, and having a few extra pairs of eyes is that little tip you need to improve.
Thanks Brandon! Super advise!
If you ever happen to visit Namibia, I will be more than happy to help you for free... your work is really inspiring... I just shoot basic build videos, but I am really developing an interest for a more artistic style of video... keep up the good work man...
Nice insight bro!! I got to learn filming just by looking at guys like you on youtube. The only down side is that technically I dont really dont know shit HAHA but I can produce films and I do it for companys all the time. I am on a net of 300k right now... and still growing. I think as longest you want to grow there will be paths to choose and it doesnt always need to be exactly like everybody elses path.
Thank you so much for sharing this, man! :)
Thank you. You are one good dude!
Very encouraging. Thank you.