Dominic Thiem Tennis Forehand Evolution 2014-2020 - Thiem Forehand Analysis

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  • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
    @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +17

    Download our FREE forehand guide here - www.top-tennis-training.com/free-guide/

    • @dr.rodgers
      @dr.rodgers 4 года назад

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  • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
    @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +66

    Will Thiem win his first grand slam at the 2020 US Open?

  • @RossCallen2028
    @RossCallen2028 4 года назад +10

    Wow! you're absolutely the best tennis teacher on the internet today! You have this awesome ability to easily sum up exactly what's happening in every situation. Good job! I'm in the USA so thanks for putting you're videos online so we all get to benefit. I'm shooting for the pro tour so it's nice to know that even the pros are still tweaking their game when they get there. Great job analyzing it!

  • @willkittwk
    @willkittwk 4 года назад +4

    Always the most detailed break downs without talking about extra stuff that doesn't matter!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the support
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @MrAustinab
    @MrAustinab 4 года назад +28

    I was waiting for someone to comment on how compact his FH has gotten since 2019. No surprise he’s being more aggressive with it.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +8

      Exactly, now he's capable of staying close to or inside the baseline and dictating play from there.
      He still can defend from 8-10 feet behind the baseline but he also has that aggressive option with his new forehand

    • @MrAustinab
      @MrAustinab 4 года назад +2

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons makes you wonder if the next gen FH is worth the court positioning you give up with the long take back.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +7

      I prefer the modern style forehand personally, NextGen is too wristy and has too many flaws IMO

  • @pravithgouroji7721
    @pravithgouroji7721 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for making this video. Please do more of these

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching
      Any players or strokes you want to see in particular?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @OldRacket
    @OldRacket 4 года назад +19

    I remember playing guys with the "next gen" swing in the 1970's and I played around with it hitting against the backboard. They tended to have a lot of power but were inconsistent. It was hard to time perfectly given the small rackets, fast courts, etc. There really is nothing new in tennis. What is optimal has changed based on changes to the rackets, strings, court surfaces, and even the balls.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @imateapot51
      @imateapot51 4 года назад +3

      Are you sure? Do you have any videos? The racquets were still pretty bad in the 70s. None of the pros then even lagged.

    • @PDCConstruction-pi1rd
      @PDCConstruction-pi1rd 4 года назад +1

      You must be talking about the 80's not the 70's. I could believe that after watching Lendl and Becker.

  • @jameserickson4331
    @jameserickson4331 4 года назад +5

    LIked seeing the drill that Thiem uses with his coach. Good analysis.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @tennisschulenetzroller728
    @tennisschulenetzroller728 4 года назад +2

    Great analysis!!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for the support
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @angeloandreotti4394
    @angeloandreotti4394 4 года назад +2

    Great lesson as usual! Thanks for sharing knowledgement, Simon, you´re a great teacher!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the support Angelo
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @MykolaIvanchenko
    @MykolaIvanchenko 4 года назад +1

    Excellent breakdown of the forehand, thank you!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @marcdhumeaux9718
    @marcdhumeaux9718 2 года назад +1

    These thorough analyses of players style evolution are amazing. Please do more if you can :-)

  • @Vamos_JSH
    @Vamos_JSH 4 года назад +1

    can totally relate with the comments at the end about evolving games. Great analysis thanks! 👍

  • @sefermemisoglu3800
    @sefermemisoglu3800 4 года назад +1

    Excellent analysis!!! Having see evolution of a star player’s forehand provides deep understanding physics and logic of how to perform much better strokes. Thanks a lot!!!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @sefermemisoglu3800
      @sefermemisoglu3800 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thanks dear Simon, indeed I would like to see some lessons. For instance; for the duce side and advantage side both, I would like to know more about returning techniques, shifting grips in between, especially against hard hitters. In the final of the US Open 2020, Thiem was limping, and then shortly after he lost his back hand and kept going slicing against Zverev. I would like to hear your analaisies about this intensive tennis struggle if it makes sense also for you. Thank you a lot for all!!!

  • @extol_entry
    @extol_entry 4 года назад +9

    The filming location is reminiscent of a Norse horror film. Love the analysis.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +5

      Thank you for the support Ryan
      I don't watch horrors so I don't know what those look like but I love this club, perfect place for filming, busy clubs are a nightmare to film in
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @extol_entry
      @extol_entry 4 года назад +2

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons it looks beautiful, I’ve never played on grass as I live in a city in the USA. Right now, as a self-taught beginner-intermediate player, I’m struggling with how to improve my skills without a coach. What should be my distribution of practice vs game play? This is a very specific request for a working guy but this is something I’m trying to figure out. Thanks for the response!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +4

      I would aim for 80% practice and 20% gameplay.
      When you're playing points, you can't focus on the technique.
      Here is a video on some ideas to improve without a coach - ruclips.net/video/FVjSZQ9qbww/видео.html

  • @marcomarchionni4617
    @marcomarchionni4617 4 года назад +7

    Excellent analysis as usual Simon. I was just checking Thiem's evolution in last couple of days and I detected his legs starting position, well parallel, 90 degrees to the baseline, weight starting on both legs, and the grip with his index finger well separated from others (and this is also well visible in your shot of Kirgios). I believe their grip is the real basic step also referring to the final pronation that reminds me the pronation at the end of the service.

  • @elkabras
    @elkabras 4 года назад +7

    I think he adapt the FH to the surface and the time he has got to hit the ball...if you film some more videos maybe he make the loop nowadays too...but despite that he achieved a massive racquet head speed and confidence, and he moves really well, is a beast on the court

  • @RamKumar-li8mq
    @RamKumar-li8mq 4 года назад +1

    Great video, as always :-D. I was watching Thiem in the finals and I paid close attention to the details you have described. wow! thanks Simon. you are a great teacher.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for the support Ram
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @rajatisivan381
    @rajatisivan381 4 года назад +1

    Nice analysis! Thank you!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      My pleasure!
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @bhnaparalela
    @bhnaparalela 4 года назад +1

    Another great vídeo!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @niuren
    @niuren 4 года назад +1

    Great video Simon! :)

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @thomaskuk7474
    @thomaskuk7474 4 года назад +12

    Do a analysis of Medvedev’s forehand. Seems a pretty different forehand on the tour, he finishes, his forehand, with a WTA forehand termination

  • @emilianocazaresarroyo4060
    @emilianocazaresarroyo4060 3 года назад +1

    Dude, I met them on instagram and I had no idea that they had a RUclips channel haha, very good video and very good channel

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching 👍
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @jasonroussel2881
    @jasonroussel2881 4 года назад +1

    So great. Thanks. My son was pointing racquet the same way. I think it helps with tracking the ball, but it seems to take more time. I prefer to keep it simple. Thank you for another great video. I have forwarded it to his coach!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @speedypete4987
    @speedypete4987 4 года назад +1

    Oh man, that is a beautiful court!

  • @gletsu
    @gletsu 4 года назад +3

    Awesome video you guys rock! He’s about to win the US open too 👍🏿

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      He crushes Zverev or do you think it will be close?

    • @gletsu
      @gletsu 4 года назад +1

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons I think he crushes Zverev but I am wrong a lot 😂

  • @recordgaming6643
    @recordgaming6643 4 года назад +6

    Great Video, can you explain Theim backhand? how he handle with high bounce balls?, how he hold the grip (1 \ 1.5)?

  • @alangoudie2299
    @alangoudie2299 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting.Tennis has changed a lot in 60 years.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      The biggest change has been the technology for sure, the new rackets and strings allow the crazy techniques to flourish.
      It would be near to impossible for Jack Sock to hit his forehands with the technique he uses with a wooden frame

  • @Maxine_126
    @Maxine_126 3 года назад +1

    With this video i'm going to watch to videos about the forehand of the next generation

  • @alex70301
    @alex70301 4 года назад +1

    Really useful video, with clear, structured explanations on how to perform a forehand. Learned a lot about what needs to be checked. Thanks!!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in 2021?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @ABSStudios123
    @ABSStudios123 4 года назад +1

    Epic analysis gud job

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for the support
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @ABSStudios123
      @ABSStudios123 4 года назад +1

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial can you please do daniil medvedev's forehand or serve as he has a very different style of playing.

  • @danimalsauce
    @danimalsauce 4 года назад +2

    Great job as usual guys. I’m a 4.5 player and have trouble handling heavy pace off my 1HBH side. Can you do a video about how to handle heavy pace but also how to have better patience/recognition of an off speed ball which tends to be over hit/shanked?

  • @ricardosalas6408
    @ricardosalas6408 4 года назад +1

    I am fascinated on technique changes over time. The first time I saw the next-gen forehand was Andy Roddick around 2002. I am not totally sold on it for similar reasons you point out. Sure players can generator semi-nuclear power with this technique but it's a huge production that take lots of energy. But yes, it's also a lot of fun hitting it, just ask Jack. For now I find the modern forehand with its use of gravity assist for momentum, the best current option. Surely there will be a something new in the future. Can't imagine it yet.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Great comment Ricardo
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @stevegordonson720
    @stevegordonson720 4 года назад +1

    Great video! I've noticed Thiem becoming more competitive on hardcourt. Now I know why. I think Thiem will take it this year, he seems less streaky than Zverev.

  • @djalilz7901
    @djalilz7901 4 года назад +1

    Great !!! 💥💥💥

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @vannesslin1295
    @vannesslin1295 4 года назад +1

    Thank you , coach. I want to know how to hit back a ball back when the ball is fast but low and you have really less time to get ready.

  • @martingaspar847
    @martingaspar847 4 года назад +8

    What grip does he use? Semi western?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +4

      Yes, the semi-western grip. Most pros use it

    • @edhorstmann8668
      @edhorstmann8668 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial As I look at these videos it seems to me that he is using a much more extreme grip. You can see this in the video of the training of the private club. His racket is pointing directly at the opposite fence and his knuckles are at the top bevel. At contact they have come all the way under. Isn't that the key to the forehand he's hitting?

  • @ryansodhi1815
    @ryansodhi1815 3 года назад +2

    What is the grip of thiem? Is it semi western or something slightly different?

  • @LGLG-mc3dt
    @LGLG-mc3dt 4 года назад +2

    Great explanation. It gives me more confidence for my forehand. One phenomenon I noticed is that for open or semin-open stance forehand, in the power loading position, the body weight is always on the right leg. however, in the end of the stroke (after contact point), sometimes the body weight is shifted to left leg, while sometimes the body weight is still on the right leg. what is the reason for this difference? Thanks!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +3

      There are different ways to use the open or semi-open stances in terms of power steps through the shot. Often when the goal is to drive upwards (to create more topspin) you'll end up on the right leg again. If you want to produce more power and a flatter shot, the right to left hop step can be used
      We need to make a lesson on the different power steps
      All the best
      Simon

    • @LGLG-mc3dt
      @LGLG-mc3dt 4 года назад

      Thanks for the explanation. Look forward to that lesson.

  • @guuillaumelefrancais5734
    @guuillaumelefrancais5734 4 года назад +1

    Cool. tanks !

  • @originalbowwow
    @originalbowwow 4 года назад +6

    Great video. Never was a fan of the next gen swing. I like the modern style but, still think Agassi style is best.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @originalbowwow
      @originalbowwow 4 года назад +1

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I'm pretty sure I've watched about 95% of TTT's videos. You guys probably covered pretty much everything on the mechanics. Tough to think of something. I know how you guys feel...lol! Maybe some more doubles stuff??

  • @marianpredescu8853
    @marianpredescu8853 4 года назад +1

    Thanks Simon and while I agree that the smaller/medium loop is better on hard courts then the large loop, isn't there a third option, even more compact?
    My coach idicated a couple of years ago to do "Thiem's older forehand technique, the tip of the racket would be pointing down the court, towards the opponent" especially to deal with fast icoming balls, implying to just start the forward swing from that position(with not much of a loop), what do you think?
    Then I had another coach telling me that I still need a loop (be it smaller) and I am doing now what Fed/Nadal/Joker/Thiem are doing on the take back, with the head of the racquet poiting up.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Hi Marian
      Most players have three main swings with their forehand:
      1. Full swing - When they have time
      2. Half swing, shortened version of the full swing, when dealing with faster balls but still have some time
      3. Return swing - used when returning serve and dealing with extremely quick balls
      It's important to master all three
      All the best
      Simon

    • @marianpredescu8853
      @marianpredescu8853 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      Thanks, but you are talking about "Thiem's FH swing", the go to swing on hc, for rallies?
      Same for me, at one point I was trying the new gen take back but with no loop, just a fw swing from there.

  • @CJZM7777
    @CJZM7777 3 года назад

    This is a good video and very sound advice. But, many players in the 1970/80/90s led back with the elbow up and away from the bod. Arias, Borg, Sampras, and others led back with the elbow. Vic Braden taught this method in the 1970s and many other coaches too.

  • @keshavahuja6359
    @keshavahuja6359 4 года назад +1

    Hello sir
    Which grip do you use for your FH please tell

  • @donnieb87
    @donnieb87 3 года назад +1

    Hi!
    I noticed the same issue of Thiem 2014 in Musetti's forehand.
    Indeed he has clear issues on hard courts.
    I'm asking : why the coaches set them as that if this kind of preparation has these clear cons?
    Thanks!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  3 года назад +2

      I don’t know if it’s the coaches or the players themselves. Most often coaches come and go, players tend to jump all over the place when they’re growing up and switch coaches like they switch rackets.
      So we definitely can’t blame the coaches unless the player has been with the same coach since day one

  • @cjurado86
    @cjurado86 4 года назад +1

    Great analysis. Btw, do you like those shoes you are wearing? I'm thinking about getting them? Thanks

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching
      Honestly, the shoes are horrendous. So tight, first few days wearing them my feet went numb from lack of blood and the insoles were shocking. I took them out and added my own and they improved slightly but I’ll never get another pair like these. I’d prefer to play in bare feet 🦶

    • @cjurado86
      @cjurado86 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial haha thanks. Yes, honestly I was surprised you were wearing them because they are quite cheap and forma Nike that means for amateur players. But I saw you wearing them and I thought I'd give it go. Now that you say that, I won't. Thanks! Keep up the amazing work you do.

  • @alexnguyen9606
    @alexnguyen9606 4 года назад +1

    Could you do a video on how to hold your 2 handed back hand grip? Thanks

  • @Perionian
    @Perionian 3 года назад +1

    Hi Simon, my forehand doesn't have the tip pointing directly to the sky. I point it to the side and about 45 degrees upwards. What is the advantage (if any) of pointing it to the sky? More powerful?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  3 года назад +2

      The two main benefits are:
      1. The wrist gets laid back when the tip points upwards, making it easier to create lag later in the swing
      2. More space to accelerate the racket head prior to contact.
      Hope that helps
      Simon

    • @Perionian
      @Perionian 3 года назад

      Thanks!

  • @koppenknyul7113
    @koppenknyul7113 4 года назад +1

    Great video, as usual. Could you do one on Zverev's backhand? In my opinion one of the best two handed backhands out there with quite a unique technique/swing.

  • @n.nurkic4674
    @n.nurkic4674 4 года назад +1

    What Grip size do you use Simon?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      I use a very thick grip, a few sizes above the biggest you can buy 👍

    • @n.nurkic4674
      @n.nurkic4674 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial interesting. And how heavy is your racquet ?

  • @Annoy-u4e
    @Annoy-u4e 4 года назад +1

    I’ve been trying to adapt this style of forehand but found that it was much harder to generate the same racquet speed & momentum into the shot compared to leading with the elbow . Is there a way to fix this ?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      If the elbow leading works better, why change it?

    • @Annoy-u4e
      @Annoy-u4e 4 года назад

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons
      Because I want to take the ball earlier and stay closer to the baseline or inside . Leading with elebow my position is deep for the rallies in the forehand side

  • @xdddxddd5799
    @xdddxddd5799 4 года назад +1

    Hi! I have one quoestion and i would appreciate if you have time To answer. I have been playing tennis a very long time and my forehand has always been my weapon but nowadays i started to struggle with it and now i can not hit it consistently. I have done everything To fix it but it just does not work anymore. When i hit the Ball it feels like i dont have any power and the ball just goes somewhere but i cant decide where. So if you have any tips how to fix it i would love to know. Btw sorry for my bad english..

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      I would go back to the basics, get the fundamentals right, this lesson should help you - ruclips.net/video/aZj7DIEftPg/видео.html

    • @xdddxddd5799
      @xdddxddd5799 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial thank you!

  • @steveswen
    @steveswen 4 года назад +1

    Can you do an analysis of the Naiomi Osaka forehand?

  • @Shubham-mv3oz
    @Shubham-mv3oz 4 года назад +2

    Hey SIMON!!! Great analysis... Just a question: how are you able to hit so clean. I mean your strokes are way more clean then many on ATP tour....

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      Years of training my friend, plus another 12 years as a human ball machine for thousands of students 😂

    • @Shubham-mv3oz
      @Shubham-mv3oz 4 года назад +2

      You put in a lot of hardwork!!! Keep up the great work that you are doing through youtube helped me and my coach a loooottttt!!!!

  • @edhorstmann8668
    @edhorstmann8668 4 года назад +1

    As I look at these videos it seems to me that he is using a much more extreme grip than a semi-wester. You can see this in the video of the training of the private club. His racket is pointing directly at the opposite fence and his knuckles are at the top bevel. At contact they have come all the way under. Isn't that the key to the forehand he's hitting?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      I haven’t seen any evidence he uses an extreme grip, I’ve got a lot of images of him using a semi western though. You can easily manipulate the strings in the preparation, it’s more to do with the wrist position and forearm supination/pronation 👍

    • @edhorstmann8668
      @edhorstmann8668 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thanks so much...and by the way, I think your lessons and instruction are fantastic!!

  • @fotodawka
    @fotodawka 4 года назад +1

    Super 👍

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @luismanuelpena1104
    @luismanuelpena1104 4 года назад +1

    Hey Simon, which strings do you use? Is it Solinco Hyper G?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      I use cheap poly strings, they're not a big brand

    • @luismanuelpena1104
      @luismanuelpena1104 4 года назад +1

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Wow, that's quite surprising haha, since you are a very good player. But gear isn't everything. What tension do you play with?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Normally around 50lbs, it often depends on the weather too what tension I choose

  • @augustocastellanos2948
    @augustocastellanos2948 4 года назад +2

    what calls my attention is his grip, which grip does he use

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thiem uses the semi-western forehand grip

    • @rbutthamilton
      @rbutthamilton 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Really!? looks more extreme to me than the orthodox frying pan appearance. May be bevel 4.5?

  • @sefermemisoglu3800
    @sefermemisoglu3800 4 года назад +1

    If I’m not wrong, he also shifted then from western grip to semi western grip, right?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +3

      I haven't seen any images of him using a western but I've seen him using an extreme semi-western, so between both grips.
      Now he seems to be using a true semi, so probably adjusted it slightly to be able to flatten it out more

    • @sefermemisoglu3800
      @sefermemisoglu3800 4 года назад

      Right, Igot it now, Thanks a lot !!!

  • @joshw7129
    @joshw7129 4 года назад +1

    The “old school” prep also allows for better disguise if you wanna hit drop shot

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @albertoolmos21
      @albertoolmos21 4 года назад

      I don’t think so, as a top female drop shooter does. Andreescu uses the racket as a weapon sight, in front of her face pointing to the target half a second before hitting the ball without further preparation. Needless to saying that drop shooting is not surprising, and requires to push your opponent back behind its back line. Take a look at ruclips.net/video/yw8Nd6dKc-Y/видео.html, vs.
      Cross-sided:
      Bertens 0:11; Kenin 0:35; Bertens 1:47; Begu 1:56; Hsieh 2:37; Muguruza 4:10; Pliskova 4:22; Bertens 4:53
      Back-hand disguise: The racket points to the target, low, 1-second before the shot.
      Williams 1:06; Svitolina 1:25; Kenin 1:35
      Parallel (frontal):
      Begu 2:02; Begu 2:26; Kasatkina 4:33; Bertens 4:41
      , etc.
      In summary, you can foresee Andreescu’s drop-shot targeting intentions 0.50 secs +/- 50ms in advance.
      Usually, it's too late.

  • @n.nurkic4674
    @n.nurkic4674 4 года назад +1

    How heavy is your racket ?

  • @hansolsson3409
    @hansolsson3409 4 года назад +1

    Nice video Simon!
    John McEnroe at 1:20.

  • @coquillage8211
    @coquillage8211 4 года назад +3

    Can you explain why Federer has changed his forehand technique ? It seems like his forehand was at its peak during the 2004-2007 period, yet he modified it 😕

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +5

      That's a video I was planning on making, the evolution of Federer's forehand.
      It will be a long one, so many things to cover, I'll try to make it before the fall

  • @bryllebahari5212
    @bryllebahari5212 4 года назад +1

    What grip thiem use?

  • @erensungur4552
    @erensungur4552 4 года назад +1

    Dominic's forehand affected my forehand really bad :) I am trying to hit more aggresive like him but I realised that I am not this level player , so I hope I can fix it ...

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      I always say you shouldn’t try to mimic the technique of a pro but you can copy the fundamentals. Early coil, racket up above the grip, good power position, lag, good finish.
      Those are the keys 🔑

    • @erensungur4552
      @erensungur4552 4 года назад

      Yes you are right sir ! :)
      I believe that I will fix it

  • @justinwoo5649
    @justinwoo5649 4 года назад +1

    I know alot about tennis because i play a lot of tournaments from usta

  • @leon-ma
    @leon-ma 4 года назад +2

    Why most players spread the fingers on non-dominant hand when they do unit turn?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      It gives you greater contact with the racket. More control over the racket

    • @leon-ma
      @leon-ma 4 года назад

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons Thanks. But I asked about non-dominant hand that has stretched and spread fingers.

    • @tontran4139
      @tontran4139 4 года назад +2

      @@leon-ma because it would help loosen the dominant hand. Try and see it for yourself

    • @leon-ma
      @leon-ma 4 года назад

      @Ton Tran Thanks. That was my guess. Will try and see.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +2

      I was talking about the non-dominant hand. When the players are holding the throat of the racket.
      But if you mean when they release the hand and start tracking the ball, then it's for that purpose, tracking the ball

  • @alekseyplotnikov8394
    @alekseyplotnikov8394 4 года назад +1

    Looks like Zverev has changed his forehand too. Could you do comparison of his forehands too?

  • @2ndAveScents
    @2ndAveScents 4 года назад +2

    I thought the first forehand bounced off the coaches head and he hit it again until I flipped my phone and watched it in full screen

  • @GrungePopRecords
    @GrungePopRecords Год назад +1

    🎾🖤

  • @justinwoo5649
    @justinwoo5649 4 года назад +1

    like every week

  • @buzmez01
    @buzmez01 4 месяца назад

    It’s sad to see what that grip and his forehand technique made his wrist problems that leads to retirement 😞

  • @Rockyou12
    @Rockyou12 4 года назад +1

    👍👍👍😊

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @gmnboss
    @gmnboss 3 года назад

    Next gen forehand not winning slams?

  • @kaceyzeiltritch7374
    @kaceyzeiltritch7374 4 года назад +1

    Thiem thiem thiem

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @kaceyzeiltritch7374
      @kaceyzeiltritch7374 4 года назад

      Haha tysm, but i am rather new to tennis. I am only beginning to learn the jargon. And this video pretty simplistically explained an incredible concept. Well, all i can say is keep the good work up!! I would love to watch more hence I subscribed :))

  • @IdontspeakBro.
    @IdontspeakBro. 3 года назад

    I thought this was old school tech 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @alvaromenabustamante4273
    @alvaromenabustamante4273 4 года назад +3

    The subtitles always says “team” instead of “Thiem”

  • @justinwoo5649
    @justinwoo5649 4 года назад +1

    michigan

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      I was #1 in Michigan back in 1995, under 12s. I was 9 at the time, won around 30-40 events in one year and the nationals, but they didn't put me in the rankings since I wasn't a US citizen.
      They hated my guts, especially my dad. Couldn't stand the fact a 9 year old who wasn't American was able to beat all their best 12 year olds!
      I lived in Saginaw, competed in Ann Arbor, Detroit, Flint, Lansing, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, and Bay City. Many more places but I remember those areas. So many funny stories that I really need to share, maybe when we start a podcast I'll tell them

  • @justinwoo5649
    @justinwoo5649 4 года назад +1

    Also he has more experience

  • @claudemirsilva6918
    @claudemirsilva6918 4 года назад

    Ultimamente to vendo muita conversa em relação ao tenis.muito bla bla bla.tudo coisas que existem a muito tempo não sabem como vender mais o produto e tem colegas entrando nessa amigos confiem no sua capacidade como eu confio na minha e não fiquem engolindo tudo que veem.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Ultimamente estou vendo muita gente que não contribui com nada para o tênis, fala muita besteira, bla bla bla, ao invés de nos agradecer pelo nosso trabalho duro, você quer ser o figurão. O que você fez pelo tênis? Minhas aulas ajudaram milhões e milhões em todo o mundo, de graça!

  • @classicGamers444
    @classicGamers444 4 года назад +2

    Slinger bag sir

  • @notarealname7737
    @notarealname7737 4 года назад +3

    My dude is either the most Kiwi-sounding Brit or British-sounding Kiwi of all time.
    31/12/20 edit: I think he's South african

  • @justinwoo5649
    @justinwoo5649 4 года назад +1

    im 11

  • @farhadrosh
    @farhadrosh 4 года назад

    Having the racket tip pointing at the net can cause major problems. Just skip it. And I wish you mentioned that bc many students
    see this video and think that’s the way to do. The position you called power position is the key, you wanna get your arm/ racket in this position.

  • @justinwoo5649
    @justinwoo5649 4 года назад +2

    Yes because it’s against zverev

  • @randomcon123
    @randomcon123 4 года назад

    Thiem is still too far back in his starting position to be a threat on faster courts

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      Didn’t he just win the US open?

    • @randomcon123
      @randomcon123 4 года назад

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial he did but he was standing too far back... even Nadal when he won in 2019 was only half his distance... and Djokovic pretty much stands right on the line. The way he allowed Zvrev to attack him in the first couple of sets was evident... also think nerves got the better of him... but if he wants to be better than “best if the rest”... he will need to cut his take back even more. I can’t imagine him playing this kind of physical tennis into his 30s.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 года назад +1

      He changes court positions depending on how/who he’s playing. Since shortening the forehand he has moved up the court more frequently