I'm at up to 1 million views a month at times and it was hard to get lenses out of them. I managed to get two. Im hanging out to see others reviews of them, they seem to have a "look" that I can not really put my finger on. Flare is pretty much nothing left in my brief testing.
@@christopherduran9926 In all honestly I don't think I'm qualified to answer that question. For me the image does have a bit of a "wow" factor- The Athena's are described as "clean" and they don't look like the Athena's, but I think I would call these clean too? I have just been given a launch date of early June, so will start working on the video for real now.
I think more often than not, “a look” can properly be described by the technical aspects of the lens. “Boring” is usually a word someone will use when they didn’t find some fancy thing to get excited about. ANY decent lens can make an extraordinary picture. I have a good bit to say on this, and an upcoming video about this very topic. I’d hoped to add an Arles to that video, but if I can’t, it’ll still be okay.
@christopherduran9926 - my apologies, my phone was glitching and wouldn't show comments ... then suddenly said I'd successfully hidden yours. I didn't mean to! I'm trying to resurrect it, but can't find it.
I was so close to pull the trigger on the Athena’s but man these look interesting. Still not enough information yet, I may have hyped myself up too early… as one does with gear 😂 Any idea about focus breathing and CA? If well controlled I might just get these instead 🤔 I really love that the Athenas almost don’t breathe at all and I think I can live with the CA of the 35mm & 25mm from Nisi. But the background on the Nisis is kind of overcorrected and thus a bit too busy for my taste. So if these new DZO lenses can keep up with the Athenas with regard to focus breathing and have a cleaner background I’m all in. Any idea on when they will be released? Greetings from Germany 👋🏼
Hi Richard, thanks for watching! I would expect these to be very well-controlled in the breathing department. DZO has stated as much and I believe them. I will get my hands on these at Cinegear in about 10 days, and I promise to spend as much time with them as I can. Honestly, I would probably rather have 2-3 of these than 5 Athena lenses, which is about the price difference.
Similarly, CA looks pretty minimal in the sample footage I've seen so far. They vignette *slightly* more than the closest comparable T1.5 lenses (Sigma, Zeiss, Tokina), and more than the Athenas at T1.9, but of course that's not a fair comparison. By T4 they are perfectly even at every focal length, and at T1.4 they are all easily correctable. They are a little bigger, heavier, and more expensive than Athena, but otherwise they dominate in every category as far as I can tell.
@@nick_salazar Looking forward to your video from cinegear then 👍 Really quite crazy times we live in in terms of cine lenses. I mean if these deliver as promised, why bother spending more than double the amount on something like the Zeiss Nano Primes or the SP3s with their massive focus breathing and horrible CA? Man I want to see the reviews now :D Your hype catched me
Everyone will have their own preferences. Some folks might want the Zeiss pedigree to impress clients. Others might prefer a different brand for its particular characteristics (bokeh, color, flare, etc). For me, these will likely be an easy choice just as you suggest.
For me the speed IS the advantage. A massive one. Perhaps it isn’t so important to others. But in my opinion, going from f1.8 to f1.2 (the approximate difference here) is an entirely new world. Moreover, that depth of field (1.2 on VV) puts you into the DOF territory of the best IMAX setups out there, and with lenses this clean and this high resolution, there’s essentially no loss of quality between this and a true IMAX rig. I’ll get into it in more depth and demonstrate what I mean once I get my hands on them.
@@nick_salazar I appreciate the response. This is very intriguing and would love to hear it more in detail once you acquire the lenses. In your opinion then would it be redundant to keep both the athena primes and Arles if they both essentially provide clinical clean look. The only advantage I see in the Athena's at this point is likely the price and weight of the Athena primes.
Well presently the Athena set also goes down to 14mm and as long as 135mm. And as you mention the size and weight are substantially lower. So for things like gimbal work the Athena set might be preferable. But you’re right that the features overlap significantly. So generally it may be redundant for a single owner operator to own both, unless you are renting your equipment out to others, or you want it for backup, etc.
Swappable EF and PL mount, 95mm outer diameter to fit most compact matteboxes, no moving protruding rear lens element to conflict with filter adapter...
Great points Frank, and all true. There is of course the Breakthrough DFM which takes care of the rear VND. But you’re absolutely right that these are very convenient to use.
Hi there bro thanks for videos but may you do a beginner how to use starter settings for red raptor X I also have arri signature lenses 35 I’m just waiting on my lpl adapter to arrive but would love to hear from u. I make video games from scratch so filming is new to me an would love stepping stone
Hey there! The tough part about your request is that these cameras are really not geared toward beginners. With a little effort, anyone can learn to use them for sure. But if you're just learning to film, you might learn a lot faster on a simpler camera. I'm always happy to answer questions if you have them, and I can continue to tell you how I like to use my camera, but a generic "starter settings" video is probably not one I plan to do in the near future.
I'm at up to 1 million views a month at times and it was hard to get lenses out of them. I managed to get two. Im hanging out to see others reviews of them, they seem to have a "look" that I can not really put my finger on. Flare is pretty much nothing left in my brief testing.
@@christopherduran9926 In all honestly I don't think I'm qualified to answer that question. For me the image does have a bit of a "wow" factor- The Athena's are described as "clean" and they don't look like the Athena's, but I think I would call these clean too? I have just been given a launch date of early June, so will start working on the video for real now.
I think more often than not, “a look” can properly be described by the technical aspects of the lens. “Boring” is usually a word someone will use when they didn’t find some fancy thing to get excited about. ANY decent lens can make an extraordinary picture. I have a good bit to say on this, and an upcoming video about this very topic. I’d hoped to add an Arles to that video, but if I can’t, it’ll still be okay.
@christopherduran9926 - my apologies, my phone was glitching and wouldn't show comments ... then suddenly said I'd successfully hidden yours. I didn't mean to! I'm trying to resurrect it, but can't find it.
I was so close to pull the trigger on the Athena’s but man these look interesting. Still not enough information yet, I may have hyped myself up too early… as one does with gear 😂 Any idea about focus breathing and CA? If well controlled I might just get these instead 🤔 I really love that the Athenas almost don’t breathe at all and I think I can live with the CA of the 35mm & 25mm from Nisi. But the background on the Nisis is kind of overcorrected and thus a bit too busy for my taste. So if these new DZO lenses can keep up with the Athenas with regard to focus breathing and have a cleaner background I’m all in. Any idea on when they will be released?
Greetings from Germany 👋🏼
Or at least when to expect the first real reviews?
Hi Richard, thanks for watching! I would expect these to be very well-controlled in the breathing department. DZO has stated as much and I believe them. I will get my hands on these at Cinegear in about 10 days, and I promise to spend as much time with them as I can. Honestly, I would probably rather have 2-3 of these than 5 Athena lenses, which is about the price difference.
Similarly, CA looks pretty minimal in the sample footage I've seen so far. They vignette *slightly* more than the closest comparable T1.5 lenses (Sigma, Zeiss, Tokina), and more than the Athenas at T1.9, but of course that's not a fair comparison. By T4 they are perfectly even at every focal length, and at T1.4 they are all easily correctable. They are a little bigger, heavier, and more expensive than Athena, but otherwise they dominate in every category as far as I can tell.
@@nick_salazar Looking forward to your video from cinegear then 👍 Really quite crazy times we live in in terms of cine lenses. I mean if these deliver as promised, why bother spending more than double the amount on something like the Zeiss Nano Primes or the SP3s with their massive focus breathing and horrible CA? Man I want to see the reviews now :D Your hype catched me
Everyone will have their own preferences. Some folks might want the Zeiss pedigree to impress clients. Others might prefer a different brand for its particular characteristics (bokeh, color, flare, etc). For me, these will likely be an easy choice just as you suggest.
Why do you believe dzofilm Aries have any advantage over the Nisi Athena's aside from speed?
For me the speed IS the advantage. A massive one. Perhaps it isn’t so important to others. But in my opinion, going from f1.8 to f1.2 (the approximate difference here) is an entirely new world. Moreover, that depth of field (1.2 on VV) puts you into the DOF territory of the best IMAX setups out there, and with lenses this clean and this high resolution, there’s essentially no loss of quality between this and a true IMAX rig. I’ll get into it in more depth and demonstrate what I mean once I get my hands on them.
@@nick_salazar I appreciate the response. This is very intriguing and would love to hear it more in detail once you acquire the lenses. In your opinion then would it be redundant to keep both the athena primes and Arles if they both essentially provide clinical clean look. The only advantage I see in the Athena's at this point is likely the price and weight of the Athena primes.
Well presently the Athena set also goes down to 14mm and as long as 135mm. And as you mention the size and weight are substantially lower. So for things like gimbal work the Athena set might be preferable. But you’re right that the features overlap significantly. So generally it may be redundant for a single owner operator to own both, unless you are renting your equipment out to others, or you want it for backup, etc.
Swappable EF and PL mount,
95mm outer diameter to fit most compact matteboxes, no moving protruding rear lens element to conflict with filter adapter...
Great points Frank, and all true. There is of course the Breakthrough DFM which takes care of the rear VND. But you’re absolutely right that these are very convenient to use.
Hi there bro thanks for videos but may you do a beginner how to use starter settings for red raptor X I also have arri signature lenses 35 I’m just waiting on my lpl adapter to arrive but would love to hear from u. I make video games from scratch so filming is new to me an would love stepping stone
Hey there! The tough part about your request is that these cameras are really not geared toward beginners. With a little effort, anyone can learn to use them for sure. But if you're just learning to film, you might learn a lot faster on a simpler camera. I'm always happy to answer questions if you have them, and I can continue to tell you how I like to use my camera, but a generic "starter settings" video is probably not one I plan to do in the near future.