You know, I enjoy videos, but it's really aggravating when you don't show all of the steps. My question is this, I am working on a 2005 Freightliner Columbia w/ 14L 60 Series Detroit. I have gone through 4 sets of injectors. Now I am doing the job myself. How do you adjust an N3 fuel injector. I know how to get to the top lobe travel. How far do you turn in the plunger??? Do you keep turning it until the adjustment doesn't turn anymore, back off 3/4 of a turn, then adjust it to 40 in lbs and then tighten the lock or jam nut??? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
@@jamesstafford9067 the adjustment screw on the injector you need to tighten until it bottoms out (turn to the right). DO NOT force it. Just until stop or you feel resistance then stop. You back off just 3/4 turn and that’s it.
@@jamesstafford9067 you are correct. Just until the plunger stops. Do not force it beyond that. You got this, glad you are trying to do your own work. I like to see that.
Hello Pedro I have a question I need to replace the same gasket it leaks and want to fix it properly I also need to replace the injectors harness.. my question is do I need to rotate the motor 🤔 or just remove the Jay breaks? Thank you for your awesome video I just subscribed very helpful
If you are just going to replace the gasket and the harness then you should be fine with just removing the engine brakes (Jake brakes). You don’t have to rotate the engine. You only have to rotate the engine if you are replacing an injector or adjusting valves. Other than that just remove, install, torque down the Jake brakes and install the harness.
@@CarlosDieselElectric Pedro thank you so much you are giving so much good information I really appreciate what you do. This is my first truck hoping it won't give me no Manger issue I want it to last me tell 2023 so I'm trying to baby it as much as possible thank you so much
@@CarlosDieselElectric pedro I have one more question sorry for bugging you this truck is leaking quite a bet it only has 670k miles but with 20,000 hrs . The ECM computer harness connector its full of oil but only in the bottom it starts from where the oil pan is at but I when all the way up on the ECM harness and no signs of oil it dry and clean I opened the black casing to see the wires and they look in very good condition. I was thinking it my of got oil from the oil pan gasket but I'm not to sure if that's possible cuz it's like 4-6 inches away from the harness. I'm going to open it up and see in side the ecm connector yo see if there oil in there oh and I dont have any codes I just want to prevent from having a brake down especially cuz I'm starting soon in the tomato session here in cali thank you Pedro let me know what you think if you think it's possible that I has oil from the oil pan because the gasket is very bad just hard to believe that it would splash over to the wire but it did have a pto on it so it might make sense when runing the pto sorry for a long message
@@staypositive5598 carefully pull back the yellow lever at the ECM (MCM), that will allow you to check to see if the oil is actually at the computer and inside the harness. If oil is present then most likely it is coming from the injector harness and worked it’s way down towards the computer.if is possible but unlikely the oil is leaking into the computer.
jose delgado you are welcome, to program the injector code you need to have the Diagnostic Link software from Detroit. The software makes troubleshooting fault codes a lot easier. You can make parameter changes to speed, increase or decrease. Injector cutout test. Worth having.
Is it necessary to drain coolant and purge diesel out of the fuel line before removal of the injector? I heard there's a possibility that diesel or coolant might leak into the combustion chamber upon removal of the injector.
David Tsang David Tsang no need to drain coolant. The injector cups will hold the coolant in its place. You can remove the valve or check valve on the series 60 to allow the fuel drain from the system. Then pull the injector and proceed with replacement or just pull the injector and replace it without. I have done it both ways. How many injectors are you replacing?
@@CarlosDieselElectric. Hi, Thanks for the great advise. I think it should be the #2 injector. I did the automatic cutout test and it showed #2 cylinder has issue. But I havent done to manual cutout to check the fuel delivery. But i do hear a slapping noise when I step on fuel pedal increasing rpm to 1200. Have not remove the Valve cover to physically check it.
@@davidtsang4670 Definitely try the manual cut out test so you can try at low RPM and then try at a higher RPM. This will help you confirm if the injector is not responding. I had a similar issue and it was the injector rocker that was broken, but you can verify once you remove the valve cover. But first try the manual cut out test.
@@CarlosDieselElectric Appreciate the tips. I will definitely do that when the rains stop. It is a swimming pool there at my rental yard. That might explains the noise. Hopefully it didnt cause damages. Thanks again!!
Rodney Goodman to be honest, I have installed some and the truck will work just fine. I believe it has to with the internal clearance inside the injector. This way the computer knows how much diesel to injector.
Pedro buenas tardes estoy reparando un s60 11.1 cual es la calibración de los injectores se que existe una carta de referencia y como se calibran los Jake brake?
Yes, drain coolant from radiator and from the side of the engine block. The side of the engine block will get everything out which is the best way to go. Especially since you want all the coolant out of the cylinder head. Look for the lowest point to drain.
I’m sure the injector harness was a pricey part. I’ve driven art of 12.7s which were great engines. I’ve often wondered why the 14.0L was never very popular.
Wayne Swicegood when the first 14L (2004-2007) came out they weren’t that good. Expensive EGR valve right under the turbo, V-Pod that controlled the turbo actuator. Not a good design. 2008-2009 we’re pretty good. I have a few customers who are right at 1,000,000 miles with just the right maintenance being done and no inframe.
I'm over a million on a 2005 14 liter now and having injector 1 coming back on my diagnostic. They are great motors I bought a chip to permanently shut the EGR .. Do you HAVE to enter the injector code into the computer? Can you not just swap it out without messing with the computer?
Hack Daddy - Official - I purchased my books from Valley Power Systems (Detroit Diesel distributor). You could check with them or also check with your local Freightliner. Not sure if they have it available PDF. I have the books
I have a 2005 freightliner Columbia with a 14 l Detroit I am replacing the bullgear but I have found 3 different timing marks on the bullgear, The book does not refer to those marks can i use anyone out of those 3 timing marks located on the bullgear to set the timing on the motor???
@@CarlosDieselElectric I don't have the part number but if you provide me with your email I can send you a Pictures of the old bullgear and the new bullgear Both have 3 separate timing marks on it
Black smoke could be too much fuel, have your mechanic perform a tube up on the valves and injectors. You will need height tool for the injector. The valve cover will dictate which one to use. If that doesn’t work, you might want to have the injectors bench tested or replaced.
One more thing wen u unplug them 2 wires connector it should tell u in the COMPUTER that the j brakes 1 and 2 are disconnected and the 6 inyectors right
@@CarlosDieselElectric should it said anything about the injectors or just the j brake cause when i do that it just said that the j brake 1 and 2 are open or shoted to high
Jorge Arriaza if the jake brakes are disconnected, you will get a fault code. If the injector is disconnected then no code unless the engine is running. What is it you are trying to do? What is it that is happening?
I have a ddec6 that was out of frame. Everything run good except when I'm acceleration loaded my truck loose power and blow black/gray smoke. Can that be because injectors not calibrated.
Yes the cam removal is very different, I would check with Valley Power Systems. They are located in City of Industry, Ca. or check with Detroit Diesel. They may have a PDF format available. hope this helps.
Thanks for this video. I've read that the Series 60 EGR engines are bad on fuel so would you mind letting me know what kind of MPG you're getting with your truck?
Robert Braun I don’t own a Series 60. I just work on them. Most customers get 6.5-6.9 mpg. The first 2005-2007 14L Series 60 with EGR had their issues. But they made improvements with the 2008-2009
14L does have an adjustment but not like the 12.7L To adjust the injector, you have to bottom out the adjustment screw, then back it off 3/4 turn. When you bottom out the screw, don’t force it any further. That should be all the adjustment you need.
@@mko0626 no height tool is needed. The adjustment or “height” is done by adjusting the screw on the rocker for that particular injector. It is actually really easy to do.
What about the sequence i know in other series 60s you have to do opposite firing cylinders to adjust injectors is it the same? Like to adjust injector 6 you must have valve overlap on one?
Jorge Arriaza the injector code will always be in the injector. Look for numbers or letters and numbers. When I get back to work tomorrow I will look an injector I have and put an example.
Sos Madmax yes it is recommend to program the injector code into the engine computer. However the truck will still work even if you don’t. The code is specific to the injector and tells the engine computer the exact internal clearance or tolerance of the injector so it knows how much diesel to inject.
You're showing very little things on this video. Didn't say anything of how to set the injector hight,harness installation,foot torque you used....and many more. It's just an advertising video,nothing more.
not too thorough...For us doing it for the first time- Do we have to set the injector height? Special tool for injector height? Do you have to do a full overhead? Or just torque things back down "As it was" ? You can really confuse beginners here without the important steps and cause uis interference issues and broken valves and pistons
Injector replacement can be done different ways. I have seen where mechanics just pull the bad injector out and then put everything back without adjusting the injector. The correct way, IMO, is to start at TDC and go from there. Or start at the injector that is bad. There is NO height injector tool UNLESS you are working on a 12.7L then you have to have one of 3 tools needed. The valve will dictate which tool to use. But I am assuming you have a 14L Detroit Series 60, so in this case NO tool is needed. You tighten the adjusting bolt until it bottoms the plunger out and gets hard to turn, and then you back it off counterclockwise 3/4 of a turn then lock the nut. Then put it all back together and torque it properly.
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You know, I enjoy videos, but it's really aggravating when you don't show all of the steps. My question is this, I am working on a 2005 Freightliner Columbia w/ 14L 60 Series Detroit. I have gone through 4 sets of injectors. Now I am doing the job myself. How do you adjust an N3 fuel injector. I know how to get to the top lobe travel. How far do you turn in the plunger??? Do you keep turning it until the adjustment doesn't turn anymore, back off 3/4 of a turn, then adjust it to 40 in lbs and then tighten the lock or jam nut??? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
@@jamesstafford9067 the adjustment screw on the injector you need to tighten until it bottoms out (turn to the right). DO NOT force it. Just until stop or you feel resistance then stop. You back off just 3/4 turn and that’s it.
@@jamesstafford9067 you are correct. Just until the plunger stops. Do not force it beyond that. You got this, glad you are trying to do your own work. I like to see that.
Well done thanks 👍
Thank you, video is helpful
Thank you!
Hello Pedro I have a question I need to replace the same gasket it leaks and want to fix it properly I also need to replace the injectors harness.. my question is do I need to rotate the motor 🤔 or just remove the Jay breaks? Thank you for your awesome video I just subscribed very helpful
If you are just going to replace the gasket and the harness then you should be fine with just removing the engine brakes (Jake brakes). You don’t have to rotate the engine.
You only have to rotate the engine if you are replacing an injector or adjusting valves. Other than that just remove, install, torque down the Jake brakes and install the harness.
@@CarlosDieselElectric Pedro thank you so much you are giving so much good information I really appreciate what you do. This is my first truck hoping it won't give me no Manger issue I want it to last me tell 2023 so I'm trying to baby it as much as possible thank you so much
@@CarlosDieselElectric pedro I have one more question sorry for bugging you this truck is leaking quite a bet it only has 670k miles but with 20,000 hrs . The ECM computer harness connector its full of oil but only in the bottom it starts from where the oil pan is at but I when all the way up on the ECM harness and no signs of oil it dry and clean I opened the black casing to see the wires and they look in very good condition. I was thinking it my of got oil from the oil pan gasket but I'm not to sure if that's possible cuz it's like 4-6 inches away from the harness. I'm going to open it up and see in side the ecm connector yo see if there oil in there oh and I dont have any codes I just want to prevent from having a brake down especially cuz I'm starting soon in the tomato session here in cali thank you Pedro let me know what you think if you think it's possible that I has oil from the oil pan because the gasket is very bad just hard to believe that it would splash over to the wire but it did have a pto on it so it might make sense when runing the pto sorry for a long message
@@staypositive5598 carefully pull back the yellow lever at the ECM (MCM), that will allow you to check to see if the oil is actually at the computer and inside the harness. If oil is present then most likely it is coming from the injector harness and worked it’s way down towards the computer.if is possible but unlikely the oil is leaking into the computer.
@@staypositive5598 series 60 is a good engine. Oil change every 10-15K with good oil and you will be fine.
Thank you for making the video. This video is really helpful.
What’s software are you using to program the injector ?
jose delgado you are welcome, to program the injector code you need to have the Diagnostic Link software from Detroit. The software makes troubleshooting fault codes a lot easier. You can make parameter changes to speed, increase or decrease. Injector cutout test. Worth having.
I got mine put in but didn’t set the injectors
Is it necessary to drain coolant and purge diesel out of the fuel line before removal of the injector? I heard there's a possibility that diesel or coolant might leak into the combustion chamber upon removal of the injector.
David Tsang David Tsang no need to drain coolant. The injector cups will hold the coolant in its place. You can remove the valve or check valve on the series 60 to allow the fuel drain from the system. Then pull the injector and proceed with replacement or just pull the injector and replace it without. I have done it both ways. How many injectors are you replacing?
@@CarlosDieselElectric. Hi, Thanks for the great advise. I think it should be the #2 injector. I did the automatic cutout test and it showed #2 cylinder has issue. But I havent done to manual cutout to check the fuel delivery. But i do hear a slapping noise when I step on fuel pedal increasing rpm to 1200. Have not remove the Valve cover to physically check it.
@@davidtsang4670 Definitely try the manual cut out test so you can try at low RPM and then try at a higher RPM. This will help you confirm if the injector is not responding. I had a similar issue and it was the injector rocker that was broken, but you can verify once you remove the valve cover. But first try the manual cut out test.
@@CarlosDieselElectric Appreciate the tips. I will definitely do that when the rains stop. It is a swimming pool there at my rental yard. That might explains the noise. Hopefully it didnt cause damages. Thanks again!!
Do you have to have a computer to set them
Yes, you need the software from Detroit to make these changes.
Carlos Diesel Electric well I’ve had mine in for about two months but I don’t have the computer
Rodney Goodman to be honest, I have installed some and the truck will work just fine. I believe it has to with the internal clearance inside the injector. This way the computer knows how much diesel to injector.
Do you do complete rebuild
Pedro buenas tardes estoy reparando un s60 11.1 cual es la calibración de los injectores se que existe una carta de referencia y como se calibran los Jake brake?
Is here any problem if I change only 2 injectors and not all?
That really depends on who you ask, some will say all 6 if possible but if you replace just 2 you will be fine.
Do I have to drain coolant if I'm cha ging injector cups
Yes, drain coolant from radiator and from the side of the engine block.
The side of the engine block will get everything out which is the best way to go. Especially since you want all the coolant out of the cylinder head.
Look for the lowest point to drain.
I’m sure the injector harness was a pricey part. I’ve driven art of 12.7s which were great engines. I’ve often wondered why the 14.0L was never very popular.
Wayne Swicegood when the first 14L (2004-2007) came out they weren’t that good. Expensive EGR valve right under the turbo, V-Pod that controlled the turbo actuator. Not a good design. 2008-2009 we’re pretty good. I have a few customers who are right at 1,000,000 miles with just the right maintenance being done and no inframe.
I'm over a million on a 2005 14 liter now and having injector 1 coming back on my diagnostic. They are great motors I bought a chip to permanently shut the EGR .. Do you HAVE to enter the injector code into the computer? Can you not just swap it out without messing with the computer?
I did my valves an injector myself... valve lash etc....Just need to program the injector on computer, which program you use
Mark Rob nice 👍🏼 I use the Diagnostic Link from Detroit Diesel to make all my changes.
4:03 bro please reply. Where did you get that book from? Online. PDF. Or something. For dd15 or similar
Hack Daddy - Official - I purchased my books from Valley Power Systems (Detroit Diesel distributor). You could check with them or also check with your local Freightliner. Not sure if they have it available PDF. I have the books
Carlos Diesel Electric how much were they? Expensive? And do you know any free sites that may have something like this?
What is the torque for the injector holder bolt
I have a 2005 freightliner Columbia with a 14 l Detroit I am replacing the bullgear but I have found 3 different timing marks on the bullgear, The book does not refer to those marks can i use anyone out of those 3 timing marks located on the bullgear to set the timing on the motor???
Verify the part number of the bull gear according to the VIN. I believe there should only be marks towards the crankshaft.
@@CarlosDieselElectric I don't have the part number but if you provide me with your email I can send you a Pictures of the old bullgear and the new bullgear Both have 3 separate timing marks on it
@@kamarnieevans3983 email me carlosdiesel@sbcglobal.net
My detroit 60 series 12.7liter is heavy on fuel what might be the problem and it has black smoke
Black smoke could be too much fuel, have your mechanic perform a tube up on the valves and injectors. You will need height tool for the injector. The valve cover will dictate which one to use. If that doesn’t work, you might want to have the injectors bench tested or replaced.
One more thing wen u unplug them 2 wires connector it should tell u in the COMPUTER that the j brakes 1 and 2 are disconnected and the 6 inyectors right
Jorge Arriaza if the wires or harness is not plugged in. You should get a check engine light or fault code telling you. Yes, you are correct.
@@CarlosDieselElectric should it said anything about the injectors or just the j brake cause when i do that it just said that the j brake 1 and 2 are open or shoted to high
Jorge Arriaza if the jake brakes are disconnected, you will get a fault code. If the injector is disconnected then no code unless the engine is running. What is it you are trying to do? What is it that is happening?
I have a ddec6 that was out of frame. Everything run good except when I'm acceleration loaded my truck loose power and blow black/gray smoke. Can that be because injectors not calibrated.
I am assuming this is a 2005-2007?
where do i get the manual for the 14L? i have it for the 11.1 and the 12.7 but cam removal is different. thanks
Yes the cam removal is very different, I would check with Valley Power Systems. They are located in City of Industry, Ca. or check with Detroit Diesel. They may have a PDF format available. hope this helps.
What kind of seal did you use on corners of lower valve cover beacause i need to do this job also thx
I use just the black or gray Permatex, make sure to apply in the corners of the CAM covers/caps.
How much mechanical changed for replacing injector
Oliver Diaz it takes about 2-3 hours to replace one injector. So depending on the shop, 200-250 for labor.
Thanks for this video. I've read that the Series 60 EGR engines are bad on fuel so would you mind letting me know what kind of MPG you're getting with your truck?
Robert Braun I don’t own a Series 60. I just work on them. Most customers get 6.5-6.9 mpg.
The first 2005-2007 14L Series 60 with EGR had their issues. But they made improvements with the 2008-2009
Amigo maestro. Donde puedo conseguir el manual de ese motor
De el motor Series 60, no estoy seguro. Porque aquí ya casi no se usa. Me imagino eBay
Do you need to set injector height on a 2006 series 60 14l ? I can't find the adjustment hole anywhere on the injector
14L does have an adjustment but not like the 12.7L
To adjust the injector, you have to bottom out the adjustment screw, then back it off 3/4 turn.
When you bottom out the screw, don’t force it any further.
That should be all the adjustment you need.
Ok thank you so much so for the 14 l you don't use the height tool?
@@mko0626 no height tool is needed. The adjustment or “height” is done by adjusting the screw on the rocker for that particular injector.
It is actually really easy to do.
What about the sequence i know in other series 60s you have to do opposite firing cylinders to adjust injectors is it the same? Like to adjust injector 6 you must have valve overlap on one?
One more question lol how do you turn this engine i usually work on cats and cummins
WERE DO U GO ON THE COMPUTER TO Get that number in
Jorge Arriaza the injector code will always be in the injector. Look for numbers or letters and numbers. When I get back to work tomorrow I will look an injector I have and put an example.
Thank u man..dou have to program the injector after u put new one ?
Sos Madmax yes it is recommend to program the injector code into the engine computer.
However the truck will still work even if you don’t.
The code is specific to the injector and tells the engine computer the exact internal clearance or tolerance of the injector so it knows how much diesel to inject.
@@CarlosDieselElectric thank u boss
Where did you find those repair manual
Yonatan Oporta I purchased through Valley Power Systems. You might be able to buy them online.
porque no hases videos en español gracias
Where can I get shop manual book?
Kalister kalister check your local or authorized Detroit Diesel. They could order it for you or possibly have it for purchase PDF.
Can u give me a qoute labor an parts
Здорова, можешь выслать на электронную почту спецификацию о ремонте мотора с60
Николай Н I want to reply I am not sure what language you are using. Try using google translate so I can reply
You're showing very little things on this video.
Didn't say anything of how to set the injector hight,harness installation,foot torque you used....and many more.
It's just an advertising video,nothing more.
Fair enough, this is definitely one of my first videos. I agree with your opinion.
not too thorough...For us doing it for the first time- Do we have to set the injector height? Special tool for injector height? Do you have to do a full overhead? Or just torque things back down "As it was" ? You can really confuse beginners here without the important steps and cause uis interference issues and broken valves and pistons
Injector replacement can be done different ways. I have seen where mechanics just pull the bad injector out and then put everything back without adjusting the injector.
The correct way, IMO, is to start at TDC and go from there.
Or start at the injector that is bad. There is NO height injector tool UNLESS you are working on a 12.7L then you have to have one of 3 tools needed. The valve will dictate which tool to use. But I am assuming you have a 14L Detroit Series 60, so in this case NO tool is needed. You tighten the adjusting bolt until it bottoms the plunger out and gets hard to turn, and then you back it off counterclockwise 3/4 of a turn then lock the nut. Then put it all back together and torque it properly.
Weak audio. Hard to hear.
Yeah, I am trying to get better at recording. I will invest in a mic or something. I do everything from my iphone, this was one of my first videos.