Crawler Canyon Quick(Re)view: Axial SCX10 Pro
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2024
- So this is a culmination of sorts, the conclusion (not exactly) of the Build-a-long series of the 10 Pro, the official ghost ride that has to come before paint, and the inevitable head-to-head episodes, of which there will be... several.
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I'm interested to see this head to head with the VRD.
I would not trade the selective underdrive for a permanent fixed underdrive. I love the ability to switch to one to one or to 40%. Can't wait to see it up against the VRD!
I am the same way
Looks good doing the thing on the rocks, can't wait to see the side by side showdown with the vrd!
He looked very stable side hill all in all, can't wait to see the side by side in the future... Nice job driving as always.
The sidehill is absolutely glue-like. Just stuck to the ground.
And sidehilling is definitely the weakest part of a box stock VRD
I can’t wait for the Pro vs Vrd comparison 🤩
I have both the Pro and VRD. In my limited experience (as a crawling enthusiast) with these two trucks, the VRDs advantage over the Pro is belly clearance/breakover. The Pro's advantage over the VRD is its planted sure-footedness and light weight. I have a fusion pro in the 10-Pro and a Holmes Team Spec 1800 revolver in the VRD and I love both systems. Looking forward to your head-to-head comparison.
what is the weight of both ? curious
@lastcreations8845 the VRD weighs 5.6lbs while the Pro weighs 5.5lbs....both weights are without a battery. I have heavy brass portal covers on the VRD and medium weight SSD brass on the Pro. Both run the exact same Megalithic tire and Squid SL3D inserts. Hope this helps.
This makes sense to me. My VRD carbon runs the pro and it is almost unstoppable.. it climbs practically straight vert without a flop.
Here's an idea. Compare them like you plan to, with the pins, then put them on a set of bot so good tires, and see how good either would do without the extra boost
Awesome! Can't wait to see the VS!
Tires definitely helped with the drive, fuskes woo be good to try
the first pass on the hillside AKA Yella's line looked excellent - no slip no hesitation - she is a side hill queen
and underdrive the front diff 33/8 that will also get the top end down
20% overdrive and dig would have made it better. I don’t need selectable overdrive.
My pro transmission clicked for 6 months before it finally broke. I replaced it with a creeper t and it smoothed the drive out so much. I run TRX4 shocks on mine and love it.
Ey up lads and lasses.
I put a fusion 1200 in my Capra with stock tranny, haven't done the math but feels good with plenty of torque and middling wheel speed.
Should be about right, the Capra box has (IIRC) a 1.2:1 internal ratio, which is... dumb. All of the reduction is in the portals. I think a Capra is maybe 40:1 final, which is insane for a portal rig.
How did you get this to fit, Vader skid?
@@JasonLumpkin I'm using a printed skid, the model is free on thingiverse. A Vader skid would of course be the proper way, some people shave the link mount.
I love the Po10 body!
You to be in the minority. I very nearly looks the same coming and going, and good from neither.
@@CrawlerCanyon LoL 😆
@@CrawlerCanyon I'll take a pro over a goyzer any day!
Love the axles and the servo behind the axle. The rest is parted out and the rails and transmission is binned. Can not recommend buying this over something like a VRD
I think the Pro and the Vrd are so close, that in the end it will be a decision between what you prefer or what you’re looking for, straight axles or portals.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the comparison tonight VRD Carbon. Right up until Vanquish announced and released the Carbon kit I had a 10-Pro on a similar ridiculous back-order from horizon you experienced.
Slick rock looked absolutely perfect. Advantage 10 pro.
Regarding the panhard conversion, here in UK, I believe some guys use the Element set up.
Fortunately you have a switch to go between 40% and 0%. You are not locked in running it one way or the other. Just like dig.
Been waiting for this. There are definitely things about Axial that aggravate me and I'm sure the VRD would be more fun to build, but I'm kind of a straight-axle guy these days and the performance is undeniably there. Yeah, the body is hideous. Looking forward to the head-to-heads before making a decision one way or the other.
A straight axle VRD could easily be had-- I'm sure someone would trade you F10 for F10 in a heartbeat.
@@CrawlerCanyon Well that's an option I hadn't considered. Hmmm...that may well tip the scales, but I'm still curious to see how this plays out. Thanks!
We need to see this guy on the Crawlimpics, the performance surprised me a little bit
I really dont like that body, but the one that WDW owns looks amazing to me
Nice review 🤟🏿💯
you should try the dawn dish soap method when you paint it. or maybe red white and blue
I did that on my creeper. Yellow and blue. It was easy and turned out bad ass.
@JohnCammarota I first saw Adam from Cape Crawlers use that method. And him and his son did two bodies,and they were really cool
I believe they set it up for portals because soon after the release of the pro axial they came out with portal axels.
Not unlikely. But that smacks of cash grab, because the gearbox is definitely a portal-ratio box-- so why not just release two versions? Why is there no 10 Pro portal kit? Ohhhhh, that's right, I keep forgetting-- #justaxialthings
@@CrawlerCanyon you should make a page #justaxialthings
@@Bonitacreekrc Axial Engineer One: I have everything from M3x10 through M3x25, so how many screw lengths should we use on the cage?
Axial Engineer Two: Yes.
@@CrawlerCanyon I guess to axials defence, they want as much thread engagement as possible,that might be there reasoning. They probably just don't trust there plastics
Undertaker looks like advantage VRD.
Knowing what you know now, how would you compare an Ecto versus VRD, ZRD or PRO with electronics and wheels/tires being equal.
Fellas.....
Fly weight it ! battery to front mount next to bumper, cut front mount to move FMM forward as much as possible, and swap to the other t case as forward as possible on skid. maybe 1 diff gear to reduce down to 20% ish range. a lb for tcase, dang. ran good
Dropping the 10.3 box out of the CJ and replacing it with the fake Creeper T took off a pound, not including the shift/dig servos. I figure the reduction here would be 12oz.
My Pro is a badass. Took some
Tuning but its ready for comp.
I'd be really tempted to give it a good amount of OD in the axle gears and then use the OD function more similarly to dig. Very curious about that.
Before you creeper T it kill some underdrive by going 8-33 front and 8-27 rear. Then find out how front underdrive performs. I think you'll be surprised.
So you're saying overdrive the rear, underdrive the front, and lock it in 40% on the box? For a fixed 20% UD, but 10% lower FDR. I'll definitely consider it.
@@CrawlerCanyon it's the availability to shift into the "wrong" configuration. You might find it a helpful tool in certain situations. Plus you have a more friendly rear UD for "normal" conditions. You don't know until you know. 😎
"I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested."
morning gents😊😊
Toss the Axial gearbox and put in a OD-3, gives you 18%O.D. or a creeper t at 30%. Should bring the weight down and a little more forward as well.
£519 in the UK 😬 I wonder what difference it would have made today if this had been running the XHX Pin.
I jumped and ordered a 10 pro on release, assembled it and felt the same way you described in your videos. Uhg. I tried the brazin scale chassis and still disappointed. Sold it before i even ran it.
Whatever you do, don't mention the VRD. I did eaarlier but I think I got away with it!
it definitly did better than i figured it would. but you did use cheat codes ie; the pins with the inserts
That was the same setup that went out on the VRD a few weeks ago, so I figured it would be a more reasonable comparison.
In ghost form it’s difficult to tell the front from the back…Is it coming or going?
I said to someone today, "the Pro body looks like the bottom half of a hotdog bun." It's funny how ugly it is, it's hilarious that they made a comp body that's not comp legal.
@CrawlerCanyon Hopefully it looks better painted and stickers
Needs - not a axial gearbox and a rock pirates kraken chassis
in a german store here in europe, the SCX10 Pro costs 469€, i could get a TRX4 Sport kit, with a better body and scale stuff for 417
I would put a Sport body on a 10 Pro just to confuse people.
@@CrawlerCanyon that would be fun
do xhx pins like big overdrive
Not yet tested, but absolutely should, as the Comp Pins are great on big OD/UD.
I must be the only person left still with 0% overdrive😂 I'm looking to put like what 12% in my 10.3 though now. I've never driven overdrive so am I in for a life changing surprise?
At the least you'll get tighter turning and less chance to "doodlebug" over backwards. I don't really think there's a drawback to 12%.
@CrawlerCanyon you know what my scx10iii does😂 it does exactly that haha. I'll get some better shocks and some overdrive or underdrive maybe instead of gearing the pinion down.
@@CrawlerCanyon doodlebug is a good word too👌😂
the Phoenix box says 6.5% & 33%. at least for the portal version
Yeah, but they got the math wrong, from what I understand. If you look up the VFD Twin gearbox kit on Vanquish, it says something along the lines of "standard overdrive 6.5%, selectable overdrive 46%"
@@CrawlerCanyon damn. they can't do math, they can't get the front shock towers right in the instructions...what can they do?...lol
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