Excellent research Ryan! I lived through the collecting period of the mid to late 80s and as I recall growing up in NY Donruss was hard to find in stores from 1984 to 1986. In 1987 it became more common, and by 88 Donruss was everywhere and looking back, 87 to 88 felt ike the dramatic rise of the junk wax era.
Thank you so much, I appreciate that. I'm glad you mentioned this because it mirrors what many collectors and dealers were saying at the time, though it doesn't appear that Donruss was acknowledging their cards were being intentionally sport printed? I'll be revisiting this topic in another video. I find it fascinating honestly. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yeah I'd be shocked if Donruss didn't produce at least 2 times as many cards in 88 as they did 87. 88 Donruss was everywhere and I rarely saw 87 Donruss for sale in packs.
Same thing here, quit collecting new stuff in 92. Didn't start collecting again until 2010. This time it was investment graded vintage HOF'ers (well centered with eye appeal). Mr. Mint and the Doc, an old You Tube interview with Mr. Mint, and why he recommended collecting vintage way back then. So, that's what I did. I have been blessed. Check it out, it's still on You Tube.
I remember watching that Mr. Mint interview. I'll have to go back and rewatch it. For me personally, I don't think I would have made it as a Modern collector much longer had the 94 Strike not happened and I'd most likely be out of the hobby completely. Vintage was the right way to go. Did you find it easier to collect Vintage in 2010 as opposed to now? The prices for pre war is crazy, I can't believe it!
Something happened with production in 1984 in particular. Finding 1984 Donruss is much more difficult than 1981-1983 and 1985-Forward. 1985 is actually not that easy to locate. But nowhere near 1984.
I completely agree. I never saw 1984 Donruss packs in the 1980s. The 84 Donruss I did see were singles, and they were expensive. 1985 Donruss I thought were a step or two below the 1984 design but I didn't see too many of those. In fact, the mid-1980s was a difficult time to be a collector of anything but Topps cause Fleer was always expensive too.
Excellent research Ryan! I lived through the collecting period of the mid to late 80s and as I recall growing up in NY Donruss was hard to find in stores from 1984 to 1986. In 1987 it became more common, and by 88 Donruss was everywhere and looking back, 87 to 88 felt ike the dramatic rise of the junk wax era.
Thank you so much, I appreciate that. I'm glad you mentioned this because it mirrors what many collectors and dealers were saying at the time, though it doesn't appear that Donruss was acknowledging their cards were being intentionally sport printed? I'll be revisiting this topic in another video. I find it fascinating honestly. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yeah I'd be shocked if Donruss didn't produce at least 2 times as many cards in 88 as they did 87. 88 Donruss was everywhere and I rarely saw 87 Donruss for sale in packs.
Same thing here, quit collecting new stuff in 92. Didn't start collecting again until 2010. This time it was investment graded vintage HOF'ers (well centered with eye appeal). Mr. Mint and the Doc, an old You Tube interview with Mr. Mint, and why he recommended collecting vintage way back then. So, that's what I did. I have been blessed. Check it out, it's still on You Tube.
I remember watching that Mr. Mint interview. I'll have to go back and rewatch it. For me personally, I don't think I would have made it as a Modern collector much longer had the 94 Strike not happened and I'd most likely be out of the hobby completely. Vintage was the right way to go. Did you find it easier to collect Vintage in 2010 as opposed to now? The prices for pre war is crazy, I can't believe it!
@@historythroughcards-shortc814 A lot easier and the prices were 1/4 what they are today. Plus, a better selection.
I remember the “panic” in 1984 when dealers and retailers suddenly discovered wax cases were no longer available through wholesalers.
Wonderfully enjoyable listen. Thanks.
84 Donruss very expensive. Centering is terrible, though it is a very beautiful card
Something happened with production in 1984 in particular. Finding 1984 Donruss is much more difficult than 1981-1983 and 1985-Forward. 1985 is actually not that easy to locate. But nowhere near 1984.
I completely agree. I never saw 1984 Donruss packs in the 1980s. The 84 Donruss I did see were singles, and they were expensive. 1985 Donruss I thought were a step or two below the 1984 design but I didn't see too many of those. In fact, the mid-1980s was a difficult time to be a collector of anything but Topps cause Fleer was always expensive too.
It's the 90's all over again.
@@FDLrick It certainly feels that way. The only thing that's different is the technology.
All advice is not good advice. That's some good advice right there!