i think if you were to upgrade from an older PlayStation or just don't have one, this would be a good choice to choose as it servs as more of a refresh for the ps5 and would last a couple years longer then the original ps5.
If PS5 wasn't given to so many scalpers and if Sony put some sort of protections in for people.. or even just had product? Then I'd have a PS5 right now. As it stands, they didn't and I got to see that there is nothing on PS5 that I want. I rarely even touch my PS4 anymore outside of playing a few console games with friends who don't have computers... but to play online with them some games require a PSPlus sub, which is insane. I can't justify paying $70 for a game and THEN playing $15 a month just to play the game when I can move to PC and pay $50 for the game and play it for free after that. I'm sort of feeling like the market for consoles is going away, companies are getting greedier and greedier and the main competition being a PC is just leaving them behind.
I agree with so much of this. The scalping is truly horrible. Supposedly Nintendo delayed releasing Switch 2 to next year for that very reason. Supposedly they are producing so many of them that the scalpers won't be able to keep up with how many people buy them at retail price. I don't know how on earth that will work, but we can hope. Console gaming is still my favorite, the 2 best things about the PS5 are the fast loading times and the incredible controller. For me anyway, that's how Sony has managed to keep me happy. The Adaptive triggers and haptic feedback are so cool and not something available on PC. But yeah I can play my PC with my Xbox controller on my TV, it's WAY more cost effective and better looking than my PS5, but cumbersome. Thanks for watching and keeping the conversation going!
@@GameListPlus I believe you can also connect your PS5 controller to PC, and Steam accepts it almost automatically (yay Steam!), I think the only issue I've seen was some games having problem if the controller is plugged into the PC when the game is started..which I don't understand. But yeah, you should be able to play any game on PC with your PS5 and have few issues. Now, do the adapter trigger work? That I don't know as I gave up trying to get a PS5.
Ah yes, a PS5 Pro when developers aren't utilizing the full power of the current PS5. More games that use the full power of the PS5 is what we need, not another refresh of the current console.
i am so happy with my steam deck that i will never buy another console again. the physical freedom of portability plus the freedom of software just cant be beat
If you reeeally think about it, the shortage kinda messed with both Sony and MSoft in different ways: Sony had only the PS5, so people begged and begged and waited for it, and many got scalped. And now they’ve had it for only like 2 years, as this video says. With MSoft, there was the S Series as an alternative, both when you couldn’t get the X, or when you simply realized you didn’t need it. But that created problems for Xbox and developers being limited by the hardware (Larian being a notable example) when trying to release for Xbox series. Now in 2024, we’re seeing the consequences of all those issues. PS5 sold better despite Xbox X Series being a very capable console (with an actually superior HDMI color gamut). And Microsoft has been forced to make some odd moves lately which remind of Dreamcast days. Meanwhile, we have this Pro news from Sony, which doesn’t quite make sense. In a way, what happened to the Xbox and what is happening with the PS5 doesn’t quite “make sense” as a whole, unless we include two things: shift in gaming needs (except for a couple of games, for most people these consoles are just F2P playing machines) and a shift in the portable gaming market. This didn’t exist last generation, where Fortnite and the like weren’t the ONLY games and many gamers didn’t have a Steam Deck or Switch to play the other “more traditional” games on. The market is just trying to figure itself out, because right now most gamers would rather play a game like Mario or Silksong on a portable device, but then use their console for Fortnite, Warzone, etc etc etc… except these are free games, and the only way to make money from those is to get gamers to buy gamepads and accessories that will make your experience better. All these complications are distorting the once simple market.
As a collector I'd be happy to buy the PS5 Pro, however I believe Sony could build stronger relationships with publishers and encourage them to make more games for the PS5 instead of bringing another console out.
@@GameListPlus I was lucky enough to pre-order one and I've been playing it since the North American launch day. I like the console but some of the performance modes in games like FF 16, 7 rebirth, Robo Cop, Immortals of Aveum look blurry on a 4K display and a better GPU with advanced upscaling similar to DLSS is an appealing upgrade to me. I was a big fan of both the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X and while I have a decent gaming PC (5800x + 3070ti) I prefer to play most games on consoles because I prefer controllers, physical games and sitting back on the couch.
I’ll be honest just keep your ps5 in good shape you won’t have to worry about long terms problems. But I’m not saying don’t get the pro if you already have a ps5 but let just be real though people still will get the ps5 pro either way.
@@GameListPlus the slim and pro will be like the most ps5 console that will still be selling than the original ps5. So at the end of the day I can still see people buying the pro or just getting the slim version
remember when ps4 launched with 4k support and very few games ran at 4k 30 with upscaling its gonna be the same as that with this ps5 pro 4k 120 with upscaling not worth buying it at all honestly if u have a ps5 then wait for switch 2
I hope it fails. Can’t believe I’m saying that. I think corporations just throw more graphic power at the games instead of actually innovating. I love my ps5. I don’t think any co has produced a single game that can actually tax it to its borderline. Like in old days you compared a snes game that came out at launch to a game that came out at the end of its life. I’ll be waiting for a ps6
I wonder if when the PS6 launches, no one buys it, because they know a better version will always come out and make games run poorly on the launch version 🤷♂️
I don't think so! The games for PS4 vs PS4 Pro were all great. I expect the same of PS6 being solid. I plan to buy the PS6 and PS7, not pro models. What if Trinity is secretly just PS6 and they just announce it for 2026?! That would be awesome!
Come on, give me a break. 😟😟😟 I just got my ps5... 😂😂😂😂.... Guess I should have waited.. But I read a comment here, and he has a point.. I don't see many ps5 titles, many games I see in the store are ps4 titles, so something is not right with this..
Yeah their priorities are all out of whack. Not a lot of PS5 games that we can be proud of. Pretty soon I feel like everything is going to be cross platform. At least we have God of War, Spider Man and Wolverine still.
Yes, yes I do. I have a SX and I'm waiting for the PS5 PRO to release so I can play Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade. I am thankful to have an Xbox because of Stalker 2 and Halo. I'll probably buy GTA 6 for the Pro.
what is the point on a "NEW" ps5 if you didn't have GAMES?? Why Sony spend A LOT of money on the stupid PS Portal and a PS5 Pro? we do not have any games! Sony studios are spending time on AAA games and remasters or remakes.. The market is getting worst because of this decisions.. Insomniac spend 300 millions on Spiderman 2. Why????? they could easy make a smaller game, spend less money... and get wAYYY more profit.. Same for the other IPs.. I miss the PS2 and 3 era... a lot of great games and fun.. What is the point to get a ps5? to play ps4 games on a better framerate and graphics? the same ps4 games that are ps3 remasters?? The ps5 game list is a JOKE! Final Fantasy VII Spiderman 2 Horizon Demon's Sols And a couple more games.. I wanna get a ps5.. don't give wrong.. But just imagine.. on 2025.. I will play Spiderman 2 Demon's Sols Maybe Final Fantasy VII And GTA 6 Maybe Marvel's Wolverine death stranding 2 That is it! 6 games that i want to play We do not have ANY GAMES SONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF???????
I definitely plan to upgrade my PS5 digital I got in Feb 2021 to the PS5 Pro. It's not going to cost $600 or $700 for the PS5 Pro. There have been several games that have suffered low dynamic resolution in order to maintain the 60fps of the performance mode, that's would not happen on the pro. Given the pandemic and stock shortages I would totally expect the PS6 to not come out until 2028. I will sell my PS5 digital once I get the pro so what ever the pro price is I overall it will be around £150 cheaper than the RRP because of that sale.
The projected retail is $599. But we shall see! Yeah I'm definitely going to be tempted to upgrade. I think the Super Spectral Resolution is my biggest draw. But I feel like I'll be fine waiting a couple more years for the PS6.
It's going to be a minimum of 3 years before PS6. There are plenty of people who will be willing to buy when you upgrade. Same will be try of the ps5 pro to ps6 transition.
There's literally no point. There's barely any games available that take full advantage of the regular ps5, by the time games that make the regular ps5 look slow come out, the ps6 will be right around the corner.
Yeah that's how I felt about the PS4 Pro. They should just maximize the games on the current system. It is possible... Ghost of Tsushima was on PS4 and is still one of the most gorgeous games I've ever played... They pushed the system to the limit, we haven't seen the best the PS5 can do!
Ill wait or PS6. I also think this the ugliest PS ever. I cant make look good in anything color than black. Too many big curves instead of more design will always come out wonky.
I've gotten used to the look, but I keep it in the cabinet horizontal anyway. Yeah I hope PS6 is a little less extravagant. Something more minimalist would be preferable. Thanks for watching!
I seriously think ps5 pro doesn't make any sense and it's not even close the same situation like it was with ps4/ps4pro. Even with ps5 there are not that many games available and there are so many previous generation games that don't take any advantage of ps5 even though they should. What guarantees that developers will make sure their games are ps5pro boosted?
i think if you were to upgrade from an older PlayStation or just don't have one, this would be a good choice to choose as it servs as more of a refresh for the ps5 and would last a couple years longer then the original ps5.
This is true for sure. I know some people who are excited to get it.
If PS5 wasn't given to so many scalpers and if Sony put some sort of protections in for people.. or even just had product? Then I'd have a PS5 right now. As it stands, they didn't and I got to see that there is nothing on PS5 that I want. I rarely even touch my PS4 anymore outside of playing a few console games with friends who don't have computers... but to play online with them some games require a PSPlus sub, which is insane. I can't justify paying $70 for a game and THEN playing $15 a month just to play the game when I can move to PC and pay $50 for the game and play it for free after that.
I'm sort of feeling like the market for consoles is going away, companies are getting greedier and greedier and the main competition being a PC is just leaving them behind.
I agree with so much of this. The scalping is truly horrible. Supposedly Nintendo delayed releasing Switch 2 to next year for that very reason. Supposedly they are producing so many of them that the scalpers won't be able to keep up with how many people buy them at retail price. I don't know how on earth that will work, but we can hope. Console gaming is still my favorite, the 2 best things about the PS5 are the fast loading times and the incredible controller. For me anyway, that's how Sony has managed to keep me happy. The Adaptive triggers and haptic feedback are so cool and not something available on PC. But yeah I can play my PC with my Xbox controller on my TV, it's WAY more cost effective and better looking than my PS5, but cumbersome. Thanks for watching and keeping the conversation going!
@@GameListPlus I believe you can also connect your PS5 controller to PC, and Steam accepts it almost automatically (yay Steam!), I think the only issue I've seen was some games having problem if the controller is plugged into the PC when the game is started..which I don't understand.
But yeah, you should be able to play any game on PC with your PS5 and have few issues. Now, do the adapter trigger work? That I don't know as I gave up trying to get a PS5.
@@Artimidorus you can definitely use the Dual Sense with Steam games, but no adaptive triggers. 😭
Ah yes, a PS5 Pro when developers aren't utilizing the full power of the current PS5. More games that use the full power of the PS5 is what we need, not another refresh of the current console.
Agreed!
Developers just need to finish games before release.
Right?! I miss those days.
It would be great if they just made any new games, with maybe some new ideas and not something that has been done since 15 years ago.
@@lordbunbury agreed!
i am so happy with my steam deck that i will never buy another console again. the physical freedom of portability plus the freedom of software just cant be beat
That's awesome! I have been thinking about getting one. Seems like the best of both worlds! Thanks for watching!
I still have a PS 4 Pro. So, I am REALLY waiting for the new PS 5 Pro !!!!! So, yes. I DO WANT a PS 5 Pro. :P
They are making this system for you!
If you reeeally think about it, the shortage kinda messed with both Sony and MSoft in different ways:
Sony had only the PS5, so people begged and begged and waited for it, and many got scalped. And now they’ve had it for only like 2 years, as this video says.
With MSoft, there was the S Series as an alternative, both when you couldn’t get the X, or when you simply realized you didn’t need it. But that created problems for Xbox and developers being limited by the hardware (Larian being a notable example) when trying to release for Xbox series.
Now in 2024, we’re seeing the consequences of all those issues. PS5 sold better despite Xbox X Series being a very capable console (with an actually superior HDMI color gamut). And Microsoft has been forced to make some odd moves lately which remind of Dreamcast days. Meanwhile, we have this Pro news from Sony, which doesn’t quite make sense.
In a way, what happened to the Xbox and what is happening with the PS5 doesn’t quite “make sense” as a whole, unless we include two things: shift in gaming needs (except for a couple of games, for most people these consoles are just F2P playing machines) and a shift in the portable gaming market. This didn’t exist last generation, where Fortnite and the like weren’t the ONLY games and many gamers didn’t have a Steam Deck or Switch to play the other “more traditional” games on.
The market is just trying to figure itself out, because right now most gamers would rather play a game like Mario or Silksong on a portable device, but then use their console for Fortnite, Warzone, etc etc etc… except these are free games, and the only way to make money from those is to get gamers to buy gamepads and accessories that will make your experience better. All these complications are distorting the once simple market.
I agree! Everything has gotten much more complicated. Thanks for adding to the conversation!
I don’t want a ps5 pro. I want a price drop
For real.
As a collector I'd be happy to buy the PS5 Pro, however I believe Sony could build stronger relationships with publishers and encourage them to make more games for the PS5 instead of bringing another console out.
I agree, priorities are all out of whack!
yes i DO. because i own a 7 year old PS4 Pro so obviously I will buy PS5 Pro #jetscreamFTW
This system is for you!
I do
Nice! Do you already have a PS5?
@@GameListPlus no
Of course, my preorder will be going in 👍
I like it.
goofy
@@italysr 🤪
I only got a ps5 4 months ago lol... won't buy a pro version unless gta6 runs like crap on the OG
It'll run great I'm sure. Developers know the PS5 original is what MOST people will be playing on.
Day 1 purchase for me
Do you already have a PS5? Or will it be your first?
@@GameListPlus I was lucky enough to pre-order one and I've been playing it since the North American launch day. I like the console but some of the performance modes in games like FF 16, 7 rebirth, Robo Cop, Immortals of Aveum look blurry on a 4K display and a better GPU with advanced upscaling similar to DLSS is an appealing upgrade to me. I was a big fan of both the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X and while I have a decent gaming PC (5800x + 3070ti) I prefer to play most games on consoles because I prefer controllers, physical games and sitting back on the couch.
@@racerboyo you can use a controller on PC and hook it up to your TV just like a console now watch you make another excuse
@@DeadPiixxel you can even use an Xbox controller wirelessly if you have a Bluetooth card!
I’ll be honest just keep your ps5 in good shape you won’t have to worry about long terms problems. But I’m not saying don’t get the pro if you already have a ps5 but let just be real though people still will get the ps5 pro either way.
Yeah I'm sure I'll be tempted. It'll definitely lower the price for a used PS5 original by a lot!
@@GameListPlus the slim and pro will be like the most ps5 console that will still be selling than the original ps5. So at the end of the day I can still see people buying the pro or just getting the slim version
remember when ps4 launched with 4k support and very few games ran at 4k 30 with upscaling
its gonna be the same as that with this ps5 pro 4k 120 with upscaling
not worth buying it at all
honestly if u have a ps5 then wait for switch 2
I agree! It's funny too, the current PS5 box says 8K on it. The Switch 2 is going to have its own version of DLSS upscaling too. Thanks for watching!
I hope it fails. Can’t believe I’m saying that. I think corporations just throw more graphic power at the games instead of actually innovating. I love my ps5. I don’t think any co has produced a single game that can actually tax it to its borderline. Like in old days you compared a snes game that came out at launch to a game that came out at the end of its life. I’ll be waiting for a ps6
I hear ya! They really need to push the capabilities instead of just making people buy new hardware. Frustrating.
I wonder if when the PS6 launches, no one buys it, because they know a better version will always come out and make games run poorly on the launch version 🤷♂️
I don't think so! The games for PS4 vs PS4 Pro were all great. I expect the same of PS6 being solid. I plan to buy the PS6 and PS7, not pro models. What if Trinity is secretly just PS6 and they just announce it for 2026?! That would be awesome!
Come on, give me a break. 😟😟😟 I just got my ps5... 😂😂😂😂.... Guess I should have waited.. But I read a comment here, and he has a point.. I don't see many ps5 titles, many games I see in the store are ps4 titles, so something is not right with this..
Yeah their priorities are all out of whack. Not a lot of PS5 games that we can be proud of. Pretty soon I feel like everything is going to be cross platform. At least we have God of War, Spider Man and Wolverine still.
what games are at 8k to use it’s full potential 😂
Right?! Nobody has 8K yet. 🤣
Not really. There's little point. If people are chasing native 4K res and a few more frames, just get a PC.
Agreed.
I absolutely want 4K 120 lol
Heck yeah. On PC you can play at even higher framerates at 4K, but it'll be a first for console games to look that smooth.
Yes, yes I do. I have a SX and I'm waiting for the PS5 PRO to release so I can play Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade. I am thankful to have an Xbox because of Stalker 2 and Halo. I'll probably buy GTA 6 for the Pro.
Nice, you are exactly the person that Sony is glad to still have in waiting for the new system. I'm looking forward to seeing how that PSSR looks.
yes. bye.
Haha
Short answer: fuuuuuuuuuuck no
Haha heard.
what is the point on a "NEW" ps5 if you didn't have GAMES??
Why Sony spend A LOT of money on the stupid PS Portal and a PS5 Pro? we do not have any games!
Sony studios are spending time on AAA games and remasters or remakes..
The market is getting worst because of this decisions..
Insomniac spend 300 millions on Spiderman 2. Why????? they could easy make a smaller game, spend less money... and get wAYYY more profit..
Same for the other IPs..
I miss the PS2 and 3 era... a lot of great games and fun..
What is the point to get a ps5? to play ps4 games on a better framerate and graphics? the same ps4 games that are ps3 remasters??
The ps5 game list is a JOKE!
Final Fantasy VII
Spiderman 2
Horizon
Demon's Sols
And a couple more games..
I wanna get a ps5.. don't give wrong..
But just imagine.. on 2025..
I will play
Spiderman 2
Demon's Sols
Maybe Final Fantasy VII
And GTA 6
Maybe Marvel's Wolverine
death stranding 2
That is it! 6 games that i want to play
We do not have ANY GAMES SONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF???????
I hear your plight good sir!
Fun fact: If you want the PS5 Pro Pro Pro Pro model, just buy a PC.
Right? I did, and it's great. But it doesn't have the Dual Sense controller. PC needs a proper controller like the Dual Sense.
I mean you can plug in a ps5 controller and there is a program where you can activate the adaptive triggers too
We just need good games not consoles... Most of the best game ever released are on ps3, xbox 360
I agree. Too much technology concern not enough quality gaming innovation.
I definitely plan to upgrade my PS5 digital I got in Feb 2021 to the PS5 Pro. It's not going to cost $600 or $700 for the PS5 Pro. There have been several games that have suffered low dynamic resolution in order to maintain the 60fps of the performance mode, that's would not happen on the pro. Given the pandemic and stock shortages I would totally expect the PS6 to not come out until 2028. I will sell my PS5 digital once I get the pro so what ever the pro price is I overall it will be around £150 cheaper than the RRP because of that sale.
The projected retail is $599. But we shall see! Yeah I'm definitely going to be tempted to upgrade. I think the Super Spectral Resolution is my biggest draw. But I feel like I'll be fine waiting a couple more years for the PS6.
It's going to be a minimum of 3 years before PS6. There are plenty of people who will be willing to buy when you upgrade. Same will be try of the ps5 pro to ps6 transition.
Day one
Do you already have a PS5?
There's literally no point. There's barely any games available that take full advantage of the regular ps5, by the time games that make the regular ps5 look slow come out, the ps6 will be right around the corner.
Yeah that's how I felt about the PS4 Pro. They should just maximize the games on the current system. It is possible... Ghost of Tsushima was on PS4 and is still one of the most gorgeous games I've ever played... They pushed the system to the limit, we haven't seen the best the PS5 can do!
I'm not sure my eyes are good enough to really see a difference.
You might be surprised. But it's not worth it in any case if you already have a PS5. At least in my opinion!
@@GameListPlus I have a PS5 and a good OLED TV. What I need now is a better pair of glasses...lol
@@Jarrod-if6uv definitely! Lol
Ill wait or PS6. I also think this the ugliest PS ever. I cant make look good in anything color than black. Too many big curves instead of more design will always come out wonky.
I've gotten used to the look, but I keep it in the cabinet horizontal anyway. Yeah I hope PS6 is a little less extravagant. Something more minimalist would be preferable. Thanks for watching!
I seriously think ps5 pro doesn't make any sense and it's not even close the same situation like it was with ps4/ps4pro. Even with ps5 there are not that many games available and there are so many previous generation games that don't take any advantage of ps5 even though they should. What guarantees that developers will make sure their games are ps5pro boosted?
Right? Apparently there are specific rules for which games with what framerate upgrades etc will be allowed to "PS5 Pro Enhanced" logo.
Yes we need it since the actual ps5 is garbage.
I disagree! Have you seen cyberpunk running on it?! Its gorgeous!
nope, PC and Nintendo is all you need
In theory yes. I have those too, but I do love me some God of War Ragnarok. Amazing game.
Unnecessary!
Haha right?