Practicing with Headphones - Line 6 Helix Tips
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
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In this video I’ll be sharing with you the best techniques I’ve found for maximizing the tone when you’re practicing through headphones. Often times, the same presets you use for performance will sound brittle, harsh, or fizzy when being played through headphones. Through creative compression, EQ, and amp block techniques, we can tune those existing presets to be more ideal for use with headphones. This is a video I’ve been wanting to make for a while now, and with the current pandemic it seemed more appropriate than ever since a lot of us are home full-time with family.
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Table of contents:
0:00 - Introduction
1:43 - Best headphones for guitar practice
3:12 - Building the practice preset
4:03 - Compression
4:55 - Reverb
5:52 - Tuning the amp/cab block
9:23 - Playing samples (bridge pickup)
9:51 - Playing samples (neck pickup)
10:13 - EQ tricks
15:17 - Final playing samples
15:53 - Thoughts on heavily overdriven tones
16:40 - Outro
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Alex FW 3.0 Came out today! Look forward to your patches with new firmware! Added A Princeston along with some Princeton CAB's and Acoustic Sim based off of Boss-AC 2 12 String Imitation, as well as Poly tuning/sustain and 8 Blocks(im interested in how to optimize your DSP usage though?)
OMG, that's... BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!! Such a great idea to use the looper for adjusting! That really makes my life easier, thank you so much!
Underrated video. This was SO helpful. I have a set of the Beyer Dynamic headphones you recommended in the mail although I already noticed a massive difference with my in ears.
Glad it was helpful!
Great tips since I've been living with headphones on for over a year now and jamming online. I particularly enjoyed hearing about the EQ tricks. And some good overall sound engineering advice sprinkled in as well. Thanks for sharing some of your knowledge!
Thanks David! I’m glad it was helpful
My tip to everyone who practices with headphones: End the chain with a ROOM-reverb, mixed pretty high. It's a night and day difference, gives you the sensation of the amp filling the room, bouncing off walls before hitting your ears. Not for recording, but for getting the feeling of having the amp in the room with you, instead of two small amps strapped to your ears..
Joakim Westin even if you already have a reverb in the chain?
Will definitely try this. I've avoided headphones because they sound so "flat". Your tip, along with this video, has given me great starting points. Thanks.
@@Stringprodigy Absolutely - Think of it this way, you usually use reverbs before your physical amps right? The room you're standing in also adds a bit of physical reverb, as I'm guessing you're not putting your ear right next to the speaker cone? This is what we're simulating by putting a room reverb last in chain in a modulator.
@@Blahaba excellent. so how would you typically set your pre-delay decay, and mix with the room verb? I would have thought something like a hall reverb would be more desirable if you’re going for recorded tones. I like the sound of an amp in the room but I like the sound of an amp in the context of a band mix much better...
@@Stringprodigy I would pretty much set it to try and emulate our rehearsal room. Bring down the high frequencies a lot, back off on decay, predelay between 5-15 ms and mix around 40-44% to get the feel of sitting in a tight room .
Thanks for the tip on using looper. Made it so much easier to play around with settings without going back and forth between guitar and Helix
Great channel, been going back through some of your posts, some great tips. Good luck
Thanks Steve! Glad it’s helpful
Many thanks, using an old line 6 podxt live and the basic principles helped a lot. I am using akg k52.
Really helpful video - thank you for making it!
Great stuff. Thanks for the helpful video. I use the Boss GT-1000 but a lot of this will transfer over pretty easily
Yeah! I think so
Thanks Alex, very helpful.
I still have studio headphones called "Metrophones" have served me very well. Literally feels like I've got my amp in my ear :D
Perfect man. Thanks for this
Thanks for the support Ricky 🙏🏼
Thanx for this video, it helps a lot!!!
Glad to hear that! Thanks for commenting
enormously helpful…thanks! Some other posters suggest adding a stereo effect near the end of the chain to add some width to the sound. Seems to help a lot.
Damn this is full of just good tips all around, not just for guitar.
Awesome!
Brilliant Alex! I got a Pod Go this year during lockdown, and had been put off practicing in the late evening due to how terrible my presets sound in my AKG 240s. This advice is just what I was after, thanks again.
Dang. I have the same setup and can’t stand the sound. Very disappointed out of the box. Hoping this helps.
@@alexnelson8 Yep I'm still generally very unhappy with AKG 240 / Pod GO especially with distorted presets. Let me know if you find something that works!
PS, Loved the video! Stay safe.
The trick using the parametric eq in logic can also be done with the global eq in hx edit. The controls are the same as the para-eq block, but with visuals.
Yes. I would love to see the ability to make a couple Global EQ presets in a future Helix update. One for FOH, one for when you’re practicing with headphones, one for when you’re using just a stand-alone PA speaker, etc.
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Hi Alex, I just bought a used HX Stomp, this video was super helpful since my practicing will be through headphones the majority of the time. Question, I am getting "digital noise" out of my headphones (ATH M50, 38 ohms impedance), even with the unit unplugged from everything except the headphones and on an empty patch. Sort of a pop or click that happens a 2 or 3 times per second. When the guitar is cranked up it's inaudible, but it bugs me while I'm watching/listening to my guitar lesson through the headphones plugged into the unit. Do you have any suggestions on what I might do to remedy the situation? Thanks!
Good tips. Have u ever used bluetooth headphones/earbuds with ur Helix? If so, did it work well? That run you started at 15:20 took me back to when I was a student at GIT (back when it was called GIT). Lots of guys walking around playing jazz runs, arpeggio exercises etc through Rockmans😝.
Great, thanks so much this - I’ve got a Stomp and like to practice and write late at night. Also, what was that scale you were playing around with at 15:20? Cheers
Hey! I've always been playing guitar over the speakers of my amp no problem. But I recently moved into a new flat and can't really play that loud. I've tried using my gaming headset as headphones for guitar but all I get is a really distorted and echoy sound. It's also very quiet. Does switching to stuido headphones like the beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro help? I'm playing on a Line 6 Spider Jam
I thought that once the sequence is recorded on the loop block we can't change its sounds anymore!?
If so it's a good idea to work on any sound. Great tip. Thanks
Hey mate great videos and awesome playing. I am thinking about grabbing the helix stomp for home practice use with headphones as well as basic recording stuff. I was wondering is there any way to plug in an iPhone for backing tracks ?
Hi Frankie - yes you can use the FX return to connect any external device to in order to play back tracks through the HX Stomp. You’ll need Apple’s annoying lightning to 1/8” adapter and then any cable that can go mono or stereo fan out to 1/4” TS for the aux input.
Great video! I own the AKG K553 MK11. They sound excellent! What do you think of the Bose Quiet Comfort 35? I need a really good set of headphones for practicing, I play a lot of Classic Rock, AC/DC, Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin that of stuff. The AKG have good low end, lot of bass. Beside these any other ones you can recommend? Thank you for posting this. Stay safe out there. Have a good holiday!
Hi Angel - knowing what I know about Bose, those are consumer-grade headphones. They’re meant for people who want the appearance of high quality audio and are usually pretty inflated in price. What I think that we as guitarists are looking for in headphones, is something that is relatively flat response. The Bose might sound good when listening to music, but chances are the kids are scooped out a bit to give the impression of hi-fidelity to people that don’t know any better.
The Beyer Dynamic DT990 headphones are another good option that I didn’t mention in this video. They are the open-back version of the DT770s.
I could also need some advice if anyone can help me with this :D I got the Samson SR 850 for practicing the guitar. They are cheaper ones but reviews say they're great for the prize. They sound fine when I play rather clean sounds, but yesterday I wanted to play something with a lot of gain and overdrive. The amp without headphones made just a little humming noise as usual on that setting but when I plugged in the headphones I just heard a really loud beep. (without touching the guitar)
My question is if this problem simply relates to the quality of the headphones, or the ohm rating (headphones have 32ohms) or if this is just a general problem when playing with the gain turned up.
At the moment I'm hesitating to get different ones as I'm not sure what's the problem, but I'm also a bit bummed out not being able to play distorted stuff :/ thanks in advance!
Hey, I just bought a POD GO couple weeks ago, and I considered to buy a headphones for practice and building preset on my Line6 POD GO. Any advise for headphones? What about the ideal headphone’s impedance for POD GO? Thanks ^^
Alex - have you ever tried a device with a BETTER overall headphone experience than a Helix?
What headphones are you using and what ohm rating?
If you play with iems wouldn’t you just eq to your iems for practice. Same as live. Sound tech adjusts tone in the house to fit in the mix. Assuming you have monitors with a flattish response and sure add reverb to taste.
Just got one of these. Plugged in my guitar. Plugged in my headphones. Turned up the volume and can't hear anything. Is there something I am missing?
I’m in search of some new headphones as the helix just landed today, I already have the Audio Technica MX20’s which I would say are great but haven’t heard anything else. I watched your video and clicked on your link for the DT770’s which are at 80ohm but I have actually seen the same pair at 250ohm for less. My question is what is better, higher or lower impedance? Thanks 👍🏻
I’ve read that some people claim that the higher impedance ones are better however I personally use the 80 ohm version and have always been happy. I don’t think most people would notice a difference honestly.
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The 250 Ohm version is much quiter
@@musikus7092 would 250 version go well with Zoom G5n? Or would it still be quiet?
Which version of this headphones do you have? 32 ohm? 80 ohm??
Hi Alex! i have a question... Is it necessary to have a headphone amplifier for higher impedances or is only the multi-effect enough?
I'm looking for one for my nuxmg300
thanks good video
Hi Juan - some people have said that 250 ohm headphones have worked well for them and some have said they wish they had gotten a power impedance set of headphones. 300 is starting to get high so I would try to go lower if you can. If you don’t might carrying a preamp around, they’re not actually that expensive though. You can get a little tube pre for around $30 I think.
Alex, Two questions. 1) Are the presets you sell optimized for a live setting or headphones? 2) Would you be willing to share your live setup, i.e. Helix-FRFR? or Helix-board direct?
The reason I ask is that I just got my Helix a few weeks ago, spent hours working on patches, purchased some presets, IR's, etc, came up with some that sounded pretty good in my headphones (AKG K240's) at home. I got to band rehearsal and, alas, they don't sound good.
Hi Gregg - All of my presets are tuned for live performance by plugging directly into board and coming through the FOH speakers. This video showcases how I would transform a live preset into a practice patch for use with headphones.
For 5 months last year and early this year I was working on a cruise ship where I perfected a lot of these patches. I would initially create them with headphones, then I would test them on a standalone JBL FRFR at performance volume, 90-100db and make the needed adjustments. When I was ready, I took the presets to the stage with an 8-piece band that I was working with in the main theater each night. I tuned them each over a course of a couple performances so they'd sound good in a very dense mix. Lastly - towards the end of my contract I had taken my board up to the FOH control and played just by myself through the mains. I made some final and very minor adjustments there.
I had a lot of free time on the ship and I had a high end theater sound system at my disposal so it was a great opportunity to get to know the Helix software! I went a bit more in depth about the process in this video:
ruclips.net/video/O9sVbCTvcSI/видео.html
If you want to make the most out of the Helix amp sims for performance, you should be tuning the settings in direct reference to whatever medium they will be amplified on. I chose to use the mains in the theater I was working in because it was a very high quality and finely tuned system.
Good advice. And I will check out that video for sure. My challenge is that I’m in a rock cover band and on any given night I need to sound like 10 different guitarists. This was the main reason I went with the Helix. Cheers.
That’s what’s so cool about the Helix - that you can store presets to recall easily and that you can download them online. It’s pretty fun honestly
i kinda dealing with the same thing. it’s so annoying when we bought someone presets and we play it thru headphones sounded awesome, then it’s trash when trying live.. 😢
Thank you for the video! However, I am saddened by my purchase of the HX Stomp yesterday - the sound through my headphones is just awful. At the same time, I record the same sound via USB and listen to the recording through the same headphones and lo and behold, the recording via USB is good! I am sure that the sound through the headphones is different from the sound through USB. Sennheiser Momentum earphones, not wireless. I want to sell my HX Stomp.
I also tried my momentum (wireless though) and they sound like crap. Beleive me, its not the stomp. Its the headphones. Great for listening to music but not for reference listening.
Hi, Question
**** How did you make your presets through front of house PA on ship?
Did you go out into the crowd seats and listen to your guitar from there?
I plugged directly into the console and sat behind the FOH desk. Most of the preset design was done beforehand. I used the time I had in the theater after-hours to refine everything.
can you play without going through com?
Alex, I have the same Beyerdynamic DT 770 headphones. What ohm rating are you using? They come in 32, 80, and 250 (I have the 80ohm version) but unfortunately I find they are not as nice as a pair of lesser ohm headphones I have from Bang & Olafson. I really want to like and use these BD 770’s more but I am concerned that the HX Stomp headphone output might not be enough to drive them. I have a headphone driver, but I am purposefully not hooking this up yet to see if there might be some setting changes to make them sound better before I go that route.
Hi Daniel - I’m using the 80 ohm model. I know that they “technically” should need a preamp but I don’t find that I’m missing much without one.
I got this set years ago when I was working on a cruise ship. My roommate (trombone player in my band at the time) had gotten a set of these and they sounded great so I decided to buy my own pair as well. He was using a little cheap tube preamp, which I found that improved the sound a bit, but didn’t make a huge difference. I A/B’d the headphones with and without the preamp a couple times and came to the conclusion that I didn’t want to buy one. It wasn’t worth the hassle of having an extra thing to set up when I wanted to practice.
Daniel Woodcock so for Helix are you saying you should use 32ohm for Helix?
Rob, I have been doing some testing with my basic lower-ohm headphones, Bang & Olafson and Bose QC15 on the low ohm setting, and my 80ohm 770s. I have found that 770s only sound good when I plug them into my OX Box. I also have a Strymon Iridium that has a headphone jack and it is a little better than the HX stomp headphone sound quality, but still not great. I think I would recommend that unless you have a studio-grade interface, the 32 ohm cans are going to sound better out of the HX Stomp and most other pedal-like gear that has a headphone jack.
From Line6 Headphone F.A.Q. :
Q: What is the recommended headphone ohm rating for use with Line 6 products?
A: For devices with a 1/4" output, we recommend headphones rated between 150-600 ohm (pro or semi-pro level) studio headphones for best results. For those with an 1/8" output, headphones designed for MP3 player usage are usually a good match. Results may vary between headphone models and manufacturers.
Hi Alex. Thank for the video. Sorry for my English! I have a question. With my audio technica atx m50x I have a horrible sound very thin such us a little radio. It's really frustrating. In your opinion the problem is the headphones or is the hx stomp defective. Thanks and good job
Thanks Alberto. It’d be hard for me to believe that there is a problem with either to be honest. When you listen to music normally through those headphones, how do they work? And when you use other headphones with the HX Stomp, how does it sound?
Sometimes we have to tailor our presets to work specifically on whatever reference system you’re using - headphones, computer speakers, a small PA, FOH system, etc. They will all sound different
Thank Alex. You've been very kind to me!!!
I use two things for headphones: room reverb and global EQ.
Hi, does the HX stomp sounds the same as Helix on headphones? I know that both have different I/O settings, but in terms of hardware wise are they different? Coz it does sound terrible
That could be a myriad of things. What headphones are you using first off?
On a computer, try this for your specific model of headphone. www.sonarworks.com
There's nothing like that for the HX Stomp, but the app will show you graphically how it adjusted the EQ, and maybe you could transfer that manually to the HX Stomp.
Man that's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing that
@Ganjang gongjangjang On Windows or MacOS, the software uses data that the company has measured on hundreds of models of headphones to perfectly flatten the frequency response. You can even send in your own headphones and they will measure them for you. The software can do the same for speakers in a room by using a calibrated measurement microphone.
You can try it out for free on their website if you have one of the headphone models they have measured.
Could you use the stomp by itself with headphones or do you have to connect it to a power amp or amp?
The Stomp has a dedicated built in amplified headphone input
Alex if you have a always on Compressor in front of the HX Stomp(CALI 76) would you still reccomend Comp. after the Amp or no?
I would just say to experiment with it a bit. The comp after the amp block certainly isn’t necessary, but it can help. You might find that’s there’s just too much compression when you start stacking that kind of effect. The compression at the end of the chain is so minimal though.
@@AlexPriceMusician Thanks Alex i appreciate it! im interested in buying your preset pack and heard you mention 5$ or 10$ but when i click link it's not set up like that anymore? do you still offer that upon request
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What ohm version of the beyerdynamic headphones are u using with the helix?
80ohm, though I’ve heard that the headphone amp in the Helix is powerful enough for the 250 version as well.
@@AlexPriceMusician thanks, was thinking of getting the 250ohm version
Laptops and phones may have trouble driving the 250ohm though, that’s the main reason I went with the 80ohm.
I'm using the line 6 pod go, i dont know if it will be the same with the hx stomp, but whenever i use the headphones out, the output level is very quiet compare to the main out to monitor, i have to adjust the level everytime i switch preset, anybody knows why or have any solution to this ?
I don’t know about the Pod Go, but the Helix has a function in global settings that you can change so that the volume knob only affects the headphone out and the left/right main outputs are always at 100%. A pretty useful feature.
how about i would like to play with a backing track ?
You can plug whatever is playing the backing track into the auxiliary input on the Stomp - or use the USB and play the backing track on your computer.
I have mini amp nux lite but i only practice using headphone. do i need a bigger amp for better sounds or the sounds are the same by using headphones? i plan to use pedals. prohibited to make some noise in apartment
Using headphones are entirely different than playing through an amp. I don’t think it’ll ever sound as good.
@@AlexPriceMusician that’s cuz headphones are hifi audio devices, guitarist life is difficult :( , for a keyboard player these things work the best
How about something more budget for home playing like Audio Technica M20x connected to Line 6 POD HD500?? Anyone tried? I'm looking for something around 50 bucks to sound decent. If I happen to play guitar more, then I will buy something more expensive
The headphones are extremely important if you're going to be using them to practice guitar all the time. I've used the M20x and I don't think I'd be happy with them if I had to use them every day. It's already difficult enough to get a decent tone out of headphones so I think a good set is worth the money, sorry.
Are there any in your complete preset library that are made for headphone practice?
Nope. I would say to take your favorite preset and apply some of these techniques too it. That’s what I do
@@AlexPriceMusician thanks!
Is it possible to use iems provided that they're stereo?
Absolutely! If those sound good for you, keep using them.
Question is why does my headphone sound alot better but when i plug into my amp it sound bad? The effect and tone aren't that strong compare to headphone. For example there are less drive when i use the amp compare to the headphone.
You're plugging your HX Stomp into your amp through the headphone out? The headphone out has a preamp made to drive a hotter signal in order to drive a set of headphones. It's going to be much louder than the stereo outs, which are mic or line level depending on your global settings.
Are those dt770s the 80ohm or 250ohm version?
I have the 250s
Just one more thing - watch out for you headphone volume. Keep it at reasonable level, you don't want to damage your hearing.
Can i connect multi fx direct to regular speaker?
Yep! That’s how I use it.
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is that 250 ohm ? and can i use 250 ohm headphone with amplug ?
Mine is the 80ohm version but I’ve heard the pre on the Helix is powerful enough to work with the 250ohm as well.
@@AlexPriceMusician i have Zoom g5n. Do you think 250 one would do well?
I bought the Dt770s and hated the sound of my Helix Lt patches. I have made them previously with a HD?? from Sennheiser and the sounds came out really nice on all PAs and in one occasion on a TV broadcast they sounded immense!
I felt like the same patches that had so much life and clarity before, sounded completely muffled and in front of my nose on the Dt770s.
I am struggling so hard to find a pair of headphones that sound good + that are comfortable to use for a couple hours...
For me the Dt770s are not comfortable at all.
Try DT-250s. They are my favourites to work with helix. They sound more natural than the DT-770s. The Dt-770s have too much bass and treble
Can you use stomp without a computer? Like guitar > hx stomp > guitar?
Yep! The only thing I use the computer for is editing the HX Stomp presets, just because it's easier with the computer software than it is editing the parameters on the actual pedal.
The HX Stomp is a complete standalone piece of gear that would function just like any other pedal you have. There are so many adjustments you can make to it that Line 6 decided to give you the option to connect it to your computer to edit if you want to.
@@AlexPriceMusician I've been trying to figure out how. My guitar is on the input mono/L and headphones in the left where the headphones logo is. I don't get any sound. the volume knob is all the way up.
@@secreswallowtail7435 it'll likely be too quiet to hear anything before you add an amp and cab to the chain, but I'm guessing you figured that out in a month
I Couldn't leave you at 666 likes...haha. I liked the video. Thats why i looked. =)
Ok - later you said Dt 770s
I own the 80ohm version, which work great. I've also heard that the 300ohm version works well with the Helix too.
If you plan on using them exclusively with the Helix, get the 300ohm - they might sound marginally better. If you want to be able to use them with you computer and phone headphone jack, get the 80ohm version.
@@AlexPriceMusician Thanks for the insight!
what what would then be the advantage of the 300 ohm headphones?
I don’t really understand this topic so I’m sure someone could clarify. I believe they are just overall more sensitive to frequency and amplitude
The DT-770s are not ideal for creating guitar sounds. The have too much high treble and too much deep bass. With them you will create your sounds too dull and bass light.
Try instead the DT-250s. They sound nearer on whats coming out of studio monitors or PA systems