This $30 trillion dollar empire has been dying since the American Civil War. Why don't you let the international markets speak for themselves because China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran are dying. The US is still growing and will outlast communism and dictatorships.
Hi. Just like to let everyone know, RedNote is *NOT* actually the Chinese version of TikTok. There is another app that is the Chinese version of TikTok. But unfortunately it's not available outside China. *RedNote* is more of a *lifestyle guide* type of app. It's for people to share their travel experience or restaurant experiences, etc. It's also for people to share advice on clothing and hairstyles, etc. But I'm sure the creator of the app is thrilled with this influx of new users. So maybe they'll adjust RedNote to become more like Tiktok! 😊
The tik-tok ban was never about China. It was always about restricting the ability of young Americans to criticize Israel or share critique of the US Military Industrial Complex. The assumed boost to other providers that would result, was never a real thing.
its about business , US companies want to have the profit too and they lobbying the congres. TikTok is not the first. dont forget the French Alstom and Japan's Toshiba were forced by US government to sell to US company too.
I'm Chinese. 2 days ago I open 小红书 as usual, and found out that all the feeds are English. I thought I open a wrong APP. 🤣Good job! Americans! People aroudg the world are so much alike. We are all just common folks trying to live a better life.
After ordinary people in China and the United States compared the cost of living on Xiaohongshu, Chinese netizens raised the following questions: 1. Are all your hospitals in the United States run by robbery gangs? How is a price this high any different from robbery? 2. Vegetable freedom, meat freedom, fruit freedom, clothing freedom, snack freedom, do these words really exist? Aren’t the above the basic guarantees of life? Why do you need lunch loans, fruit loans and things like that? 3. What is the purpose of the US government not treating you as human beings? Given your current life pressures and living conditions, what is the point of talking about human rights and democracy? If you can't even afford to eat meat and are afraid of getting sick, can you still be called a "human"?
It was a massive mistake for the world to allow the U.S. to have control of the internet, and the U.S. is increasingly of the opinion that they can simply shut down or "ban" any alternative viewpoints, ensuring that we're increasingly reliant on keeping them sweet, while they seek to ensure that the masses only hear their side of every story. It's a coercive and controlling relationship.
What I hate the most is, USA banning all the triggering words according them, but fail to understand that most people not speak english and don't care about what happens in there. There is drama about this in my country, there is a word "nggak" That mean "no", but suddenly some people claiming that this word is a slang for the N-word, which is stupid how they fail to notice that the rest of the sentences is not in english, so why do they not assuming that those word is probably not in english, both in language and context.
@@cobasaja7354 Excellent point. It's all about what's offensive in *their* culture, so they're forcing conformity to their values onto the whole world, and that's not right when most other countries don't share their shameful history with race, and only have that N word because Americans brought it with them. And they couldn't care less about what's offensive in other countries. For example, calling someone a "spaz" is a totally unacceptable slur in my country, but the U.S. thinks that word is no problem, so I bet this comment doesn't get censored by RUclips because U.S. standards apply on the internet.
@@blatherskite3009How is the world going to stop the US from controlling the internet and world-wide web infrastructure it created and currently maintains? The US government can exercise control over the internet platforms just as the CCP, and now Russia, does for their own internet providers. You're free to go argue against the TikTok ban behind the Great Firewall of China. It might not seem fair or nice, but neither China, the EU, Japan, South Korea, UK, nor Russia can control the majority of internet traffic. Unless you're going to purchase control of the internet from Silicon Valley, your complaints mean nothing.
Social media platforms are private companies; freedom of speech doesn't apply. When you sign up to a platform, you confirm that you agree to their terms and conditions (the thing that no one reads), which include rules around conduct and the type of content you can share and access.
@@Elcore Social media platforms are private companies that ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO RIGHT TO EXIST AS PRIVATE COMPANIES, past a certain level of adoption, i.e. mass adoption. They are public utilities that happen, WRONGLY AND INEXCUSABLY, to have private owners. Think: private owners of the air, or of the oceans.
@@skyblazeeterno It's easy to be libertarian when out of power. Lenin wrote "In capitalist usage, freedom of the press means freedom of the rich to bribe the press, freedom to use their wealth to shape and fabricate so-called public opinion", but we saw what Russia became
:) Cold War era person here: Not really - This was the inevitable outcome ever since we apparently decided collectively to make a bet on hypercapitalism instead of international cooperation back in the '90s...
Chinese netizens were shocked when they asked questions about ambulance services because American media has long promoted cheap villas, happy education, and free healthcare for American citizens in China website. You read it right, they have institutions in China and are living very well
Haha, these two people in front of me let me see what is incompetent anger, and they are still trying to discredit China! It is true that what they said is true, but only part of it! China banned RUclips from Google because they didn't want to store China people's data in China, and they didn't even want to abide by China's laws to restrict harmful information! As for Tik Tok, you should know that the China version of Tik Tok was born earlier and belongs to the same company as the international version!
Give RedNote a try. There's a strict censorship against violence, sexual themes and politics so people don't argue in comments and there's no toxic content. It's actually pretty wholesome and cool
The empire is desperately trying to maintain the illusion that capitalism produces wealth, while socialism leads to poverty. Of course they don't want their population to find out that they are the ones living in an underdeveloped banana republic 😂😂😂
@@Trip-PlayUSA is the one isolating them all. So connecting to China is the first step to unifying the world in friendship instead of enmity and hostility to legitimize endless wars and sanctions….
The best thing about this is that responding to a ban on a Chinese-owned social media app by going DIRECTLY to an explicitly Chinese app is the MOST EUROPEAN thing Americans could possibly do. It's got British humour and French Revolutionary spirit all over it XD
It's actually pretty cool, the Chinese citizens are helping Western users Chinese, and the Western uses are teaching Chinese users English. It's really sweet
On the square where hundreds were murdered, and thousands wounded by the chinese military, when they protested for political liberalization in 1989? That square?
@@Furious_Anonymous And the Article 35 of China's Constitution states that “[c]itizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration." (intended to insert some sarcastic remark here but decided that the quote is enough.)
Any time the US gets its a$$ kicked in a business there’s always an accusation of national security threat or some bogus, outrageous claim being leveled against the country that is kicking the US’s a$$ in such a business! This playbook has been used so many times for so many decades people are fed up with it! Even many Americans are fed up with this bullshit lie and tactic!
Brazil is currently getting investments from multiple EV manufacturers including Chinese ones, so in the nearest future you may be able to buy a cool and cheap Brazilian EV. If they won't be tariffed as well
We're getting quite a lot of variety of Chinese EVs in my country. There's even some Teslas on the road here now. But the Chinese EVs do give you more options. I've only seen Model 3s so far.
The United States has closed its trade doors and dares not allow China's advanced environmentally friendly electric vehicles to enter. American car companies can only make money by selling Chinese electric vehicle parts.
I think RedNote needs to hire many UI/UX engineers ASAP because the UI is mediocre and not very intuitive for English speakers(especially compared to TikTok). They need to be quick because they have all the hype and media attention now. There's no time to waste. If they are hiring people from the UK, I will apply😅
@@okene I find that to be the issue with lots of Chinese apps and customer websites, sometimes to hilarious effects. Luckily I'm a native speaker so can just use the Chinese versions. I guess when you have such a large internal market, there's little incentive to cater to non-Chinese.
A Chinese saying: a community with a shared future. When people from all over the world communicate with each other without any barriers, a true community with a shared future is formed.
Rednote has. already change their algorithm to seperate chinese ids and us ids , so basically you are still using 2 versions of the same apps. US PEOPEL move to Rednote because they want to have freedom of speech. such an ironic behavior .你们这些玩意就是被你们的政府宠坏了, 被网络带走了思考的能力,这么说吧 你们的思想完全取决于网络算法怎么推荐给你们. and speaking about barriers , u can download rednote and talk to chinese people , can chinese people freely download even TIKTOK to talk with you guys ? without any consequeces ?
@rugsthreecrows3697 That's true. I can joke in my native English and in Indonesian/Malay but wouldn't try to joke in Mandarin without a few years exposure to daily conversation.
I've been meaning to learn Chinese anyway. I had to cram learning numbers in Mandarin to enter the verification code because they left an automated phone authentication message to complete registration 😭
It is amazing , here come the little red note , now , citizens of the two countries can do real culture exchange virtually on the cyber space forming new community.
@@mof5490 As a Chinese, why be so political all the time? Just enjoy life, be kind, and live brother. We are all spirits having an experience on a floating rock.
No it's not This is just the first time they face real resistance. On many fronts That is why you think that way The fight is just getting started my friend and it's gonna be a long one
@jihigh482 Been saying it for years, as China gets richer and the US poorer, the US will eventually be forced to tighten its media landscape more and more openly to hide the truth from its citizenry, until they start reducing contact with not just China, but also 3rd party news sources like the rest of the world. Every empire rises and falls, no exceptions. America is obviously declining. China is rising now, I give it 300-400 years before it falls again.
@@jihigh482 they faced resistance from the 50s-80s. They “won” cause life wasn’t (as) horrible for the average American and there was mostly cohesion in local communities. Everyone read the same newspapers and watched the same 3 tv channels. It’s completely different now. They can try to ban internet platforms all they want but the cat is out of the bag and quality of life has been on a steep decline for 20 years.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times". You are at the "weak men" phase. At the end of the cycle.
Tiktok is already heavily regulated, my Mandarin comments get removed for no reasons, and my English ones stayed. 😂 I haven't seen this in other fully Chinese for Chinese apps
And TikTok actually is NOT China's app. It is Singaporean's. It is banned not because of China whatsoever. It is 1. to kill competitor. 2. to censor protest against Genocide. In the end, it is the Juice. It's always the Juice.
@@panyaboonc5621 to be fair, Japan and South Korea are forced vassal states, it's not like they have a choice. Either they follow the US or their economies die.
US government has over capacity of using to decouple from the world. Is it the reason that the US politicians want to ban Chinese garlic because of national security? They also ban Chinese made port cranes because of national security. Now they want to ban Chinese EVs because of national security as Chinese EVs contain AI.
Any time the US gets its a$$ kicked in a business there’s always an accusation of national security threat or some bogus, outrageous claim being leveled against the country that is kicking the US’s a$$ in such a business! This playbook has been used so many times for so many decades people are fed up with it! Even many Americans are fed up with this bullshit lie and tactic!
"History is gonna say this is the moment US & China finally established TRUE Diplomatic relations." ---- Some random Chinese comments i saw on XiaoHongShu.
The Red Book is so fun these couple of days 😂😂😂 we welcome American people and people from all countries to use it! 🎉 This is the first time people from these 2 countries communicate directly and we have already started comparing notes. 😂😂😂
There is no problems with Tiktok in Russia, but now i want to install Red Book as well just because i'm infinitely curious to watch this contact of civilizations
@@VanceKarpenterI'm in Australia and downloaded it yesterday to see what's happening, and watching the interactions between Chinese and US citizens is really awesome
How long will it last until China feels the Chinese are being corrupted by the West?! The West we all know are very liberal sometimes to the point of shocking too! For real 👀
It's no wonder I'm getting so many Rednote adverts and I'm not even part of the US. That's how big this is. Thank you so much US citizens. That's how much impact you guys made regarding the issue in Gaza.
@@numberonedad No. Tik Tok still works in China. Recently, when I opened China's TikTok, I saw a lot of short videos of Americans. Tik Tok has pushed me many videos of handsome men and beautiful women😄
@@hyrenaj2888 Indeed! Learning that unfettered capitalism is only one economic method and that many of the happier more equal nations that are still capitalist have more controls and practise greater ethical capitalism - social democracy and indeed socialism doesn't mean totalitarian Communism.
@numberonedad OK, no worries, I bow to your greater knowledge. According to Google, TikTok is unavailable in China, but the Chinese have their own version. Sky News have reported that TikTok is to be banned in U.S. from Sunday. Perhaps as this is Sly News that article will be BS..?
Update: after the brief ban TT has scrubbed clean Palestine content, israel evident of war crime the LA fire, any Ameruvan protest, etc. The algorithm also changed and it is much worse now.
See! Isn't it nice when the world greets each other with "Hello, how are you today? Instead of "Hey, what's wrong with you?". A happy neighborhood is a happy community that brings happy living.
I checked it out. Pretty cool. Chinese people are nice. Also no negativity. They don’t allow hate speech and racism. It’s mostly food, travel and fashion plus lots of pet videos music and dance
The cat is out of bag and any suppression of discourse around Palestine will only anger people further and bring more awareness towards oppression of Palestinians
@@numberonedad It is not banned, they just use their version of Tiktok. It is called Douyin which came out before Tiktok did. The only difference is Tiktok is sold to a Singaporean company to operate under international policies and regulations.
I thought people were going to start using VPNs and hacking their phones 😂 Jumping straight to volunteering their data was a radical jump I wasn't ready for. YOU GO GEN Z YA'LL ACTING UP AND I LOVE IT!
@@Banmuyuan You can just sideload it; slightly complex but given that RedNote is hosted entirely within China and they happen to have the infrastructure to be fully isolated if they so wish, the only problem a ban would need would be to find the app and manually install it, and for China to choose to politely hold a few entrypoint servers open if foreign users behave to their taste. App access is super easy (just don't get caught) when you know there's sites out there to sail the high seas with phones.
It's high time for the Americans especially the youngsters to know the real China, rather than having lies and endless proofless slanders against China shove down their throats. The Red Note will open doors for meaningful and mind-opening communications and interactions between people of the two big powers. Good progress...
My Chinese friends have berm complaining that their red note platform has suddenly been invaded by Americans LoL... they had no idea about the Tik Tok ban as Tok Tok is not really used in China.
It’s hilarious to see the people on both sides are busy exchanging information eg living costs, wages, health care, tax . It’s beautiful to witness a tearing down of information iron wall. People are same everywhere. We’re all facing the same challenges.
To be fair you also have quite a few excellent alternative channels on YT although they are suppressed, and trying to get through in the comments field is a nightmare. Like flipping a coin to find out what goes or not.
@@DA-mo7mw “The most essential thing about tiktok is its horse racing mechanism, which is the biggest difference from INS YT and so on. Tiktok is decentralized, and the horse racing mechanism makes it easier for ordinary people at the bottom to be seen and become opinion leaders. This makes it easier for the United States to achieve something that can be completed more easily, that is, the class leap!”
The same people telling us Biden did a great job are talking about misinformation. Hi food prices, gas prices, war, incompetence, Americans freezing in NC, auto, housing and banks in bad shape and the average consumer having lost 30% of purchasing power.
The last thing the American politicians want is for the Chinese and the American people to communicate and learn from each other because once the two people learn more about each other’s country it makes it much harder for the American politicians to spread their anti-China propaganda!
What congressman Mike is saying, is that we gotta get rid of TikTok, so that WE are their only source of information. Remember Jakidna of New Zealand!?
Xiaohongshu has changed my life!!! I never knew how lied to we had been!!! Now there’s no going back!!! I am a full on Proud communist now!!! They are superior in every way!!! 😂❤
@ It's easy to dehumanize and pit people against each other. Having genuine dialogue and sharing life experiences on xiaohongshu helps to build new bridges.
Americas demise is being accelerated by these stupid moves. Don’t they realise that times have changed. Americans ineptitude is beyond parody. Free Palestine. Go TikTok.
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The globalists are installing their totalitarian system.
Was China also labeled as stupid when they banned google, youtube, IG, Facebook and Yahoo? Or its ok when China bans US apps but when US bans ONE Chinese app it makes them stupid?
@ The Chinese gov has been clear on their stance from the start. I think it's more about how the US gov always champion free speech and does the opposite. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
I'm downloading the app because I can! I will never allow anybody and especially my government to censor my free speech. I'm perfectly willing to follow the rules of the app and respect the laws of China but I owe no such regard for my own government. This is the land of the free and I'm going to do my part to keep it that way.
All social platforms are censored by governments if they are capable. The only differences are good intention or bad intention. Good gov't censors for the good of its people, bad gov't censors to control its people. Chinese gov't must censor because US CIA spies are everywhere.
@hyc1266 All censorship is bad. There is no such thing as "good" censorship. The truth can handle the light it is only the lies that must be protected. Let the truth come out through open dialog. Any and all censorship leads to tyranny.
As native Chinese, I have to spend more than a thousand a year to keep in touch with the world outside the Great Firewall. Never thought that one day a bunch of outside people would rush inside the "wall"🤣
It's interesting to hear that perspective! In the West, we value individual freedoms, freedom of speech, and open debate, which sometimes lead to very different ideas about unity and governance. While solidarity is important, we also believe that people should have the right to challenge authority, express differing opinions, and make their own choices. It’s important to have a system that encourages open discussion and allows everyone to have a voice, even if it means disagreement.
Regarding _all_ of these severe problems with internet censorship, this is the only solution: *All types of intellectual property (IP) laws must be fully abolished immediately, in any and all jurisdictions worldwide.* All IP laws are extremely unethical for humankind. ‘Against Intellectual Monopoly’ is the most informative book humanity has on the subject now. ‘Against Intellectual Property’ is _another_ incredible essay, but it’s written with right-libertarian rhetoric so if you’re, like me, not right-libertarian you’ll have to read with an open mind and extract the essential info. _Only_ these two texts are the gold standard when it comes to intellectual property.
I think it's also important to note how deeply penetrated US social media is by intelligence agencies, both Alphabet and Meta have whole departments specifically for collecting and sharing data with them. That's a huge part of what this is about.
@iRelevant.47.system.boycott why are you okay with it? You are aware that it's a violation of your constitutional rights in regards to unwarranted search and seizure? The government is constantly spying on you, while demonizing other countries for supposedly doing the same thing, and you're just cool with that?
@erin1569 Writers around the middle of last century predicted a whole heap of this dystopian BS. "Yeah man, but it's OUR dystopia, so must be ok..right?.."
It’s really good to know that young people in the US are opening to getting the truth on everything instead of just listening to the very “old” government and the “traditional” fake news media and pure profit oriented social media. This just give us hope that there will be a more peaceful next generation that could work together across different cultures to do exactly what people need to do to save the world from total destruction, either from war or from damaged environments.
Quite the opposite, polls show that many American GenZ males are becoming more and more conservative (nationalistic). It is a bad sign that our younger generation can't take the competition and are instead turning far right. This "cultural" war will never end and is becoming dangerous.
@@Frle1001 Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek vision of the future where humanity puts aside rapacious consumerism...OK, the unity only happened in his verse after WW3 killed 600 million..
Tik Tok is operated by Bytedance which IS CCP. Why do you think the CCP bans its citizens from using Tik Tok, and instead uses a different version of it?
And if they hop over to Bilibili, they will see shitload of Ukraine / Gaza / Sudan / Lebanon footages mainstream media would never ever show. China does have censorship on lots of stuff, but if you understand the rationale behind the decision, and the appropriate way to get around censor subtlety, then all's good. That's to say Chinese social media is not for everyone, but it does open up a whole new world for those with an open mind.
Just don't expect to hold an insightful discussion on the Uighur genocide, Taiwan, the Senkaku islands, Tiananmen Square, the Umbrella Movement, the housing bubble, or whatever Chinese social unrest happens to be going on in a given week, and you'll be fine. Cat videos and makeup tutorials are cool. Food is also cool so long as it doesn't show people behaving with excessive gluttony. Confucian values are also cool. People using powerdrills to eat corn is sometimes cool, sometimes might get you banned.
@@Elcore let's look at that from another perspective. With the Chinese at least I know what's taboo and what's not, and that's no worse than living in the illusion that I have free speech, proceed to type a zillion words to express my thoughts and have them just disappear.
Fun fact: Comrade Mao's book of socialist ideology is also called Little Red Book. Beyond just being a true red China app, the app is named after THE Chinese socialist guide!
Every human from any country has full right to befriend others from any other country. History repeats itself, the power hungry will always divide us, but the population will always prevail. Nothing is stronger than the curiosity and hope humanity has. We would be so much stronger as a whole, without oppressive governments.
In the past, Google was unwilling to establish a local database, and the map annotation error could not be solved, so Google chose to withdraw from the mainland Chinese market. China makes its own software. TikTok has established a special database in the United States, which has passed the legal certification of the United States, and is also the responsibility of Americans themselves. Now it is banned. There is still a difference between the two. Executor of H.R.1157 ？
Welcome to Cold War 2 The Sequel. Americans are scared of anything they call communist and socialist, and they don't like how younger Americans like socialism and call them communists and then blame it on scapegoats like TikTok. Because to old Americans the only reason someone would like socialism is if China indoctrinates them into USSR-era communists.
In China, lobbying is almost equivalent to bribery. When I first heard that lobbying is legal in the US, I was shocked. This kind of thing is absolutely despised in China.
Yup, lobbying is bribery euphemised. “Defending Freedom and democracy” is pretexts for wars and bombings and robbery and neo-colonialism….. wolves in sheep’s skin….
Our Chinese social media platforms are much better than American-controlled ones. I always use red notes to get information about health. We also have bilibili and weibo. China is a tech sovereign country.
@@alan2102X Do you know about the Indonesian Black May riots, the Srebrenica massacre, the Sudanese civil war, the Gujarat riots in India, and similar events? How many political incidents in recent decades have resulted in hundreds of deaths? Have you ever wondered why most people haven't heard about the majority of political events around the world, yet they remember the Tiananmen incident so clearly?
Symptoms of an empire dying: Every thing they do, fires back even worse
It's not dying If you stop thinking of it like an "Empire" - it is an country and we are in FLUX 🎉
One thing about superpower vs superpower, it is never about who's good at it, but who's bad at it. :)
They will always be in control.
This $30 trillion dollar empire has been dying since the American Civil War. Why don't you let the international markets speak for themselves because China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran are dying. The US is still growing and will outlast communism and dictatorships.
Well said.
I'm in the UK and it's no.1 on the app store here too haha
Wow. I'm not in the US and don't use TikTok but I'm goinna download this app 🤣
I just downloaded and I never had a TikTok
Wow! Impressed by the conscious Brits! 😊
Someone got to keep an eye out for our overseas cousins.
Hi. Just like to let everyone know, RedNote is *NOT* actually the Chinese version of TikTok.
There is another app that is the Chinese version of TikTok. But unfortunately it's not available outside China.
*RedNote* is more of a *lifestyle guide* type of app.
It's for people to share their travel experience or restaurant experiences, etc. It's also for people to share advice on clothing and hairstyles, etc.
But I'm sure the creator of the app is thrilled with this influx of new users. So maybe they'll adjust RedNote to become more like Tiktok! 😊
The tik-tok ban was never about China. It was always about restricting the ability of young Americans to criticize Israel or share critique of the US Military Industrial Complex.
The assumed boost to other providers that would result, was never a real thing.
And also it does not hurt if a US oligarch gets to get the other part of tik-tok for free, paid by our tax dollars.
its about business , US companies want to have the profit too and they lobbying the congres. TikTok is not the first.
dont forget the French Alstom and Japan's Toshiba were forced by US government to sell to US company too.
I'm Chinese. 2 days ago I open 小红书 as usual, and found out that all the feeds are English. I thought I open a wrong APP. 🤣Good job! Americans! People aroudg the world are so much alike. We are all just common folks trying to live a better life.
me too, hahaha, i thought i opened the wrong app not xiaohongshu (red note)🤣🤣🤣
Hello from America. Thank you, friend 🧡
Hello from Kenya 🇰🇪.. my sister lives in the US and she's on Red Note already! Is a revolution!!
Me too. I thought are they learning english or ... ?
Thankyou for inventing noodles, fireworks and now Democracy !
🤣🤣🤣 Zuckerberg is such a loser , why can’t he call it a day and be a full time Dad to his kids
You would think, as a dad, he would know better than to ban anything. Kids are only encouraged to move on to something else. 😂
Because he still thinks he can win the capitalism game. It's him Bozo and Elmo at the head of the field
On the asshole scale though, Elol is still no. 1
The girl says bcoz we don't feel like supporting you, your meta, epic !
He’s a terrible role model as a father, less time he spends with his kids the better.
After ordinary people in China and the United States compared the cost of living on Xiaohongshu, Chinese netizens raised the following questions: 1. Are all your hospitals in the United States run by robbery gangs? How is a price this high any different from robbery? 2. Vegetable freedom, meat freedom, fruit freedom, clothing freedom, snack freedom, do these words really exist? Aren’t the above the basic guarantees of life? Why do you need lunch loans, fruit loans and things like that? 3. What is the purpose of the US government not treating you as human beings? Given your current life pressures and living conditions, what is the point of talking about human rights and democracy? If you can't even afford to eat meat and are afraid of getting sick, can you still be called a "human"?
We need egg freedom now in the US. $9/dozen eggs in NYC !!!
只剩下自由了😅
The Chinese don't have a public health care system. Everything is about money.
But you earn dollars😢@@hyc1266
For a country so adamant that they aren't spreading propaganda.. l-
It was a massive mistake for the world to allow the U.S. to have control of the internet, and the U.S. is increasingly of the opinion that they can simply shut down or "ban" any alternative viewpoints, ensuring that we're increasingly reliant on keeping them sweet, while they seek to ensure that the masses only hear their side of every story. It's a coercive and controlling relationship.
Saying this in a discussion of the US vs China is hilarious.
Chinas TikTok algorithm doesn’t spread any of bullshit the American one does.
What I hate the most is, USA banning all the triggering words according them, but fail to understand that most people not speak english and don't care about what happens in there.
There is drama about this in my country, there is a word "nggak" That mean "no", but suddenly some people claiming that this word is a slang for the N-word, which is stupid how they fail to notice that the rest of the sentences is not in english, so why do they not assuming that those word is probably not in english, both in language and context.
@@cobasaja7354 Excellent point. It's all about what's offensive in *their* culture, so they're forcing conformity to their values onto the whole world, and that's not right when most other countries don't share their shameful history with race, and only have that N word because Americans brought it with them.
And they couldn't care less about what's offensive in other countries. For example, calling someone a "spaz" is a totally unacceptable slur in my country, but the U.S. thinks that word is no problem, so I bet this comment doesn't get censored by RUclips because U.S. standards apply on the internet.
@@blatherskite3009How is the world going to stop the US from controlling the internet and world-wide web infrastructure it created and currently maintains?
The US government can exercise control over the internet platforms just as the CCP, and now Russia, does for their own internet providers. You're free to go argue against the TikTok ban behind the Great Firewall of China.
It might not seem fair or nice, but neither China, the EU, Japan, South Korea, UK, nor Russia can control the majority of internet traffic. Unless you're going to purchase control of the internet from Silicon Valley, your complaints mean nothing.
@@crazybanditt because China censors their internet, big brains
Lobbying = Legalized BRIBERY.
Exactly.
The same logic applies to campaign funding
What if I just accept the money and don't do shit, isnt that not bribery?
@@meng2ken872 That is a scam
= corruption
The US is the most corrupt nation on Earth
我來自台灣，以前有很多美國和英國和台灣的媒體和政治人物，總是嘲笑中國政府以國家安全為由，限制中國的老百姓使用"美國的FB和RUclips"。
但美國政府現在也以國家安全為由，限制美國老百姓使用"中國企業的Tik Tok和無人機和電動車"。
這是否表示美國的政治人物和媒體有嚴重的雙重標準?
為什麼美國企業可以透過FB和RUclips影響世界各國的安全?
為什麼美國政府可以透過iPhone監控歐洲國家的元首?
但任何一個不想被美國影響安全的國家，譬如中國
卻總是被美國媒體和政治人物公開污辱和嘲笑?
這是否表示美國的政治人物正在跟中國學習如何治理國家?
我想請問美國的政治人物和媒體，你們現在是否依然認為中國政府限制老百姓使用"美國的FB和RUclips" 是剝奪人民的權利? 你們現在是否認為中國政府的作法是可以值得美國學習的?
如果你們認為中國政府不應該限制，為什麼美國政府卻可以限制?
因为 他是美国 这个世界规则是他写的
自由的基礎是雙向的。如果兩條村有自由進出的規則，其中一條村反對了，只容許自己村的人自由進出別人的村，這樣公平嗎？當另一條村開始反對你不公平的自由進出他們的村，你有權批評他們嗎？真滑稽
@@raythink 自由的基礎從來就不是雙向的。一個經濟和科技比較先進的國家，掌握了較多的能力和話語權，他可以輕易的迫使比較落後的國家按照他制定的規則走。美國當年迫使日本簽下廣場協議，就是一個例子。
美國一直是掌握石油和美元霸權和網路科技霸權的國家，歐洲和日本傻傻的相信自由是雙向的，不懂得保護自己，導致歐洲和日本至今都沒有辦法發展出強大的網路科技，連各國元首的iPhone都會被美國竊聽
中國以前是弱國，本來就應該保護自己，適當的限制強國在政治和文化和經濟上的入侵是必要的，有智慧的治國者會制定法律和規則，讓強國遵守，完全開放是傻瓜和天真無知。
只有當國家逐漸變強，才能逐漸開放，你懂嗎?
當你的國家面積極大，人口極多，包含多種民族，又歷經戰亂教育部尚未完全普及，你確定你要天真的把國家的大門完全打開，讓國外有錢的資本家完全掌握你的科技和經濟發展?
在古時候，二個國家戰爭，大家各自站一排，然後互相砍殺，沒有任何謀略和戰術，請問大國一定贏，不是嗎? 如果弱國以為平等雙向是基礎，那叫做太笨，好嗎?
如果有一個人全身都是肌肉，找你一對一單挑，跟你說這樣比武是公平的，然後聯合其他人一起嘲笑你，嘲笑你用謀略取勝，嘲笑你用棍棒保護自己
你確定跟他公平對打是正確的嗎?
當你開始不用拿棍棒也可以打贏他以後，他才發現自己應該拿棍棒保護自己，這就是美國，好嗎?
石破茂投共了，美國塌房了，賴清德躲在家裡瑟瑟發抖，1450這幾天集體收聲😂
@@raythink 请告诉我在你的例子里，谁只允许自己村的人自由进出别人的村，另一个村又是谁？我等着看笑话
So the land of the free doesn’t even have the freedom to speak.
Correct
Never did
Its all an illusion.
Social media platforms are private companies; freedom of speech doesn't apply. When you sign up to a platform, you confirm that you agree to their terms and conditions (the thing that no one reads), which include rules around conduct and the type of content you can share and access.
@@Elcore Social media platforms are private companies that ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO RIGHT TO EXIST AS PRIVATE COMPANIES, past a certain level of adoption, i.e. mass adoption. They are public utilities that happen, WRONGLY AND INEXCUSABLY, to have private owners. Think: private owners of the air, or of the oceans.
God the cold war era people would be flipping out. Communists being for free speech and capitalists banning it 😂
I think free speech is more a battle between libertarian and authoritarian viewpoints
Don't forget the US is against free market economy when it suits it.
It’s about protecting the Steins, Bergs and Witz. AIPAC has been fighting hard to get it banned😊
@@skyblazeeterno It's easy to be libertarian when out of power. Lenin wrote "In capitalist usage, freedom of the press means freedom of the rich to bribe the press, freedom to use their wealth to shape and fabricate so-called public opinion", but we saw what Russia became
:) Cold War era person here: Not really - This was the inevitable outcome ever since we apparently decided collectively to make a bet on hypercapitalism instead of international cooperation back in the '90s...
Chinese netizens were shocked when they asked questions about ambulance services because American media has long promoted cheap villas, happy education, and free healthcare for American citizens in China website. You read it right, they have institutions in China and are living very well
both tiktok and youtube are banned in china
yeah. do you know that in China hospital, you have to pay upfront to get cure of any diseases.
Haha, these two people in front of me let me see what is incompetent anger, and they are still trying to discredit China! It is true that what they said is true, but only part of it! China banned RUclips from Google because they didn't want to store China people's data in China, and they didn't even want to abide by China's laws to restrict harmful information! As for Tik Tok, you should know that the China version of Tik Tok was born earlier and belongs to the same company as the international version!
@@numberonedadChina has their own TikTok (douyin) and RUclips is banned because they refused to comply with Chinese law
@@raythink I just told you what netizens in Red note think about,why they ask tiktok refugees about live costs.
I never used tiktok but i like this drama unfolding. Worth a big bucket of popcorn
Give RedNote a try. There's a strict censorship against violence, sexual themes and politics so people don't argue in comments and there's no toxic content. It's actually pretty wholesome and cool
@@Davenport901 people DEFINATELY argue in the comments
you should go see the posts about controversial topics
however they're mostly in mandarin
tru 😭
@@Davenport901 it like RUclips with little extra rules❗
@@Davenport901 China prohibits pornography, gambling, drugs and hate speech.
Europe - stop using genocide-loving Meta products. just stop it.
Odds are, Google/RUclips does too.
Europe. Leave a light on for the future Republic of Scotand.
No matter what platform you use. They are the same...
I don’t use them and I’m European 😂
Didn’t expect people to wake up this soon
If China 🇨🇳 cancel Instagram they will call it dictatorship
But if USA 🇺🇸 CANCEL TIktok they will call it democracy 😂😂
American Freedom firewall when?
😂😂
If Tik Tok can access American Data, how about America App access people data around the world? Should the world ban America products?
Good question. Walmart is also in China collecting Chinese people personal data sent back to CIA.
Exactly!
True.
I don't think the US judges are as smart as you and will be fair. They can be bought by money and have personal interests for their own party.
America has already been doing it, especially in those countries that have digital biometric ID cards.
The empire is desperately trying to maintain the illusion that capitalism produces wealth, while socialism leads to poverty.
Of course they don't want their population to find out that they are the ones living in an underdeveloped banana republic 😂😂😂
Exactly. The opposite is true.
Illusion? Socialism literally leads to poverty.
It's so funny reading the English comments in the app, saying that they have been lied to, and didn't know China was that developed.
@lorenam8028 what socialist country is wealthier than the west?
They live in the future in East Asia.
I love Red Note! I will NEVER go back to Meta or TikTok. I refuse to give the billionaires one more penny! DONE!
Not just young people going to red note. 61 years old and I’m having a blast. 😂
Glad you support government surveillance
@mof : Lmfao.. Do you really think the US and its corporations (Meta, FB, Instagram, etc. ) aren't spying on you?
It's been an interesting and positive experience. We need more intercultural dialogue :)
🗣BE ORIGINAL @@mof5490
@ I agree. That place is gorgeous and so far the people are lovely 😊
Once American people and Chinese people are connected, then the world will be in peace.
The world? Really? What about North Korea? Russia? Israel? Afghanistan? Etc?
@ One step at a time
@@Trip-PlayUSA is the one isolating them all. So connecting to China is the first step to unifying the world in friendship instead of enmity and hostility to legitimize endless wars and sanctions….
Don't bet on it...
China glazing is wild considering what China is doing to SEA nations.
As a progressive socialist Chinese, I feel so proud that my country makes products that billions around the world adore haha 😂😂😂😂
自谦则人愈服，自夸则人必疑。谦虚点，兄弟
So do you have time to talk about Tiananmen Square in 1989. Or the situation with the Uyghurs?
@@esbam2002Don't be jelly 😅
More lies and propaganda the West made up
🇨🇳👍🕊🤝
The best thing about this is that responding to a ban on a Chinese-owned social media app by going DIRECTLY to an explicitly Chinese app is the MOST EUROPEAN thing Americans could possibly do. It's got British humour and French Revolutionary spirit all over it XD
Learned from the best
This is freedom, this is freedom, this is real fucking freedom
@@jnielson1121 haha describing moving to another chinese app as revolutionary is the height of irony. Did you know tiktok is also banned in china?
@@numberonedad stop spreading the rumor. TikTok is not banned in China, and Chinese version of TikTok is called Douyin which is being widely used.
@@numberonedadtiktok has Chinese version
As long as the sinophobes and anti-China misinformers stay out, I might actually join this social media app. Could even help my mandarin.
Unfortunately XHS has China haters too.
You will learn so fast since you will be practicing it every second you use it.
It is using Chinese law on censorship so those anti China types won’t have a chance there
Such people will be banned on red note. This is a China controlled app.
It's actually pretty cool, the Chinese citizens are helping Western users Chinese, and the Western uses are teaching Chinese users English. It's really sweet
On the Tiananmen Square in Beijing is written a sentence in Chinese "世界人民大团结", which means great unity of the people of the world
Tiananmen Square you say 😊
On the square where hundreds were murdered, and thousands wounded by the chinese military, when they protested for political liberalization in 1989? That square?
@@Furious_Anonymous And the Article 35 of China's Constitution states that “[c]itizens of the People's Republic of China enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration." (intended to insert some sarcastic remark here but decided that the quote is enough.)
I want to buy one of those very cool Chinese EV's but The US can't compete so I can't buy one.
Any time the US gets its a$$ kicked in a business there’s always an accusation of national security threat or some bogus, outrageous claim being leveled against the country that is kicking the US’s a$$ in such a business! This playbook has been used so many times for so many decades people are fed up with it! Even many Americans are fed up with this bullshit lie and tactic!
“If you can’t beat em, ban em.”
Brazil is currently getting investments from multiple EV manufacturers including Chinese ones, so in the nearest future you may be able to buy a cool and cheap Brazilian EV.
If they won't be tariffed as well
We're getting quite a lot of variety of Chinese EVs in my country. There's even some Teslas on the road here now.
But the Chinese EVs do give you more options. I've only seen Model 3s so far.
The United States has closed its trade doors and dares not allow China's advanced environmentally friendly electric vehicles to enter. American car companies can only make money by selling Chinese electric vehicle parts.
同志们，抓紧时间学中文吧！大家多多交流！
All jokes aside, I'm extremely keen to see what such extensive people-to-people contact between the two societies brings out.
I think RedNote needs to hire many UI/UX engineers ASAP because the UI is mediocre and not very intuitive for English speakers(especially compared to TikTok). They need to be quick because they have all the hype and media attention now. There's no time to waste.
If they are hiring people from the UK, I will apply😅
In the Rednote app, Is there instant translate much like Google or Meta apps?
@@SilverSilence002 no, not yet
@@okene I find that to be the issue with lots of Chinese apps and customer websites, sometimes to hilarious effects. Luckily I'm a native speaker so can just use the Chinese versions. I guess when you have such a large internal market, there's little incentive to cater to non-Chinese.
I know you are keen to see extensive contact between different societies but there hasn't been is because the CCP banned it. It will be the same here.
To our fellow Americans, freedom is not what you thought it was.
A Chinese saying: a community with a shared future.
When people from all over the world communicate with each other without any barriers, a true community with a shared future is formed.
Rednote has. already change their algorithm to seperate chinese ids and us ids , so basically you are still using 2 versions of the same apps. US PEOPEL move to Rednote because they want to have freedom of speech. such an ironic behavior .你们这些玩意就是被你们的政府宠坏了, 被网络带走了思考的能力,这么说吧 你们的思想完全取决于网络算法怎么推荐给你们. and speaking about barriers , u can download rednote and talk to chinese people , can chinese people freely download even TIKTOK to talk with you guys ? without any consequeces ?
Unless you bring up certain topics, lol.
let us know when the CCP allows its citizens on tiktok or youtube lol
China should lift their firewall for their citizens for better communication with Americans in the future
中国并不完全禁止翻墙，大学生基本上都知道怎么翻墙。但普通民众没有只够的认知，容易被一些不怀好意的人愚弄，所以我不认为会解除防火墙@@ryana5435
It'd be awesome if they actually started learning Chinese (Mandarin) and speaking to each other!
With AI translation they don't need to learn each other's languages to do that. 😊
@rais1953 not that good for jokes or cultural idiom, though, and to actually build understanding, little things like that matter
they already started talking to each other virtually.
@rugsthreecrows3697 That's true. I can joke in my native English and in Indonesian/Malay but wouldn't try to joke in Mandarin without a few years exposure to daily conversation.
Chinese people are well educated. Many speak English already.
I've been meaning to learn Chinese anyway. I had to cram learning numbers in Mandarin to enter the verification code because they left an automated phone authentication message to complete registration 😭
Only 4'000 symbols to learn ... how hard can it be ... :)
告诉你一个秘诀，学习中文只要把汉字的部首偏旁牢牢的记下来，就会很轻松的记下来3000个汉字，就能进行复杂的中文对话，相信我，我是中国人
It is amazing , here come the little red note , now , citizens of the two countries can do real culture exchange virtually on the cyber space forming new community.
More like listening to Chinese propaganda on how much better China is than America😂
@@mof5490 why so much hate and insecurity?
@@drebei901 better question is why are you projecting?
@@mof5490 As a Chinese, why be so political all the time? Just enjoy life, be kind, and live brother. We are all spirits having an experience on a floating rock.
@@mof5490more like seeing video and graphical proof of how good the quality of life is in China 😂
I'm not even American and TikTok isnt banned in my country but I too move to RedNote to show support for American tiktokers
American-owned Tik Tok wouldn't be the same. Look what happened to X, Facebook, etc.
The empire is literally on its last legs.
Let's hope so!
No it's not
This is just the first time they face real resistance. On many fronts
That is why you think that way
The fight is just getting started my friend and it's gonna be a long one
@jihigh482 Been saying it for years, as China gets richer and the US poorer, the US will eventually be forced to tighten its media landscape more and more openly to hide the truth from its citizenry, until they start reducing contact with not just China, but also 3rd party news sources like the rest of the world. Every empire rises and falls, no exceptions. America is obviously declining. China is rising now, I give it 300-400 years before it falls again.
@@jihigh482 they faced resistance from the 50s-80s. They “won” cause life wasn’t (as) horrible for the average American and there was mostly cohesion in local communities. Everyone read the same newspapers and watched the same 3 tv channels. It’s completely different now. They can try to ban internet platforms all they want but the cat is out of the bag and quality of life has been on a steep decline for 20 years.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times". You are at the "weak men" phase. At the end of the cycle.
China made rhe right choice in not selling to the US. They thought the Chinese would cave in and sell their algorithm. Excellent 👍👍👍
They thought Chinese is the same as Japanese or South Korean.
Tiktok is already heavily regulated, my Mandarin comments get removed for no reasons, and my English ones stayed. 😂 I haven't seen this in other fully Chinese for Chinese apps
And TikTok actually is NOT China's app. It is Singaporean's. It is banned not because of China whatsoever. It is 1. to kill competitor. 2. to censor protest against Genocide. In the end, it is the Juice. It's always the Juice.
@@newname3718 I am Chinese, and 40% of my comments on RUclips are deleted every day, and I do not attack anyone with my language at all.
@@panyaboonc5621 to be fair, Japan and South Korea are forced vassal states, it's not like they have a choice. Either they follow the US or their economies die.
The irony of America banning tiktok for doing the exact same thing American companies corporations and Govt does
US national security usually means US economic interests.
For the 1%. They couldn’t care less about the economic interests of the rest of us.
US government has over capacity of using to decouple from the world. Is it the reason that the US politicians want to ban Chinese garlic because of national security? They also ban Chinese made port cranes because of national security. Now they want to ban Chinese EVs because of national security as Chinese EVs contain AI.
Any time the US gets its a$$ kicked in a business there’s always an accusation of national security threat or some bogus, outrageous claim being leveled against the country that is kicking the US’s a$$ in such a business! This playbook has been used so many times for so many decades people are fed up with it! Even many Americans are fed up with this bullshit lie and tactic!
For the 1% that don't pay tax at all. 😂😂
@@Pårchmēntôs More like the 0.01 %
"History is gonna say this is the moment US & China finally established TRUE Diplomatic relations."
---- Some random Chinese comments i saw on XiaoHongShu.
Guys! That's the starting point of the Firefly universe. That's where Americans learn all the Chinese swears😂
我没想到第一个和中国群众大规模友好交流的是美国人······而不是我们传统意义上认为的俄罗斯人
@@lordives7181 not the swears! 😂😂
never will on government level for a long time. US gov't wants to control China and this is impossible.
@@lordives7181中国人骂人最高境界是不带脏字。😂😂😂
It seems to me that "lobbying" is just a synomym for "bribing". Am I wrong?
You're correct, just ask AIPAC.
Nope
Dude I think we're witnessing one of the biggest cases of instant karma or backlash of a new policy/order in a long long time.
what to expect when Us politicians work for the oligarchs. Greed and corruption
the idea that westerners are going to learn chinese en masse is hilarious.
tiktok is banned in china.
yeah but it could also backfire for China with pro-Palestinian activists jumping on the app of country that persecutes its native Muslim minority
I don't particularly want red note but I think I'll download it just to piss of the idiots that tried to control tik tok. 😂
Exactly what i did ...
The people trying to control TikTok is the Chinese government - the same ones controlling XiaoHongShu. What exactly is your point?
😂
It's quite refreshing to see the local Chinese fashion and lifestyle trends on rednote
I'm looking at the food recipes. Making me hungry.
Hypocrisy is so blatant!
Congratulations to Americans that are having none of it!✊❤️
The Red Book is so fun these couple of days 😂😂😂 we welcome American people and people from all countries to use it! 🎉 This is the first time people from these 2 countries communicate directly and we have already started comparing notes. 😂😂😂
There is no problems with Tiktok in Russia, but now i want to install Red Book as well just because i'm infinitely curious to watch this contact of civilizations
@@VanceKarpenterI'm in Australia and downloaded it yesterday to see what's happening, and watching the interactions between Chinese and US citizens is really awesome
how are you on youtube? it's banned in china. so is tiktok.
@@numberonedadVPNs
How long will it last until China feels the Chinese are being corrupted by the West?! The West we all know are very liberal sometimes to the point of shocking too! For real 👀
Israel isn’t my ally nor yours.
They do NOT fw with us
@@tenshi7478 fw with us? 🤔
I'm pretty sure the politicians were referring to themselves (about Israel being an ally), not to the ordinary folk.
neither is china
Its not your ally but its what control your government
It's no wonder I'm getting so many Rednote adverts and I'm not even part of the US. That's how big this is. Thank you so much US citizens. That's how much impact you guys made regarding the issue in Gaza.
There is a huge cultural exchange about to happen. This really is a historic moment
tiktok is banned in china
@@numberonedad No. Tik Tok still works in China. Recently, when I opened China's TikTok, I saw a lot of short videos of Americans. Tik Tok has pushed me many videos of handsome men and beautiful women😄
Not ban， is too kind of version.@@numberonedad Because the China and the United States the law is different
Nope.
Tictok is called Douyin in China
It can only be a good thing for Americans (and people in general) to learn more about the world around them.
Only the people can really show the world what's going on social media, especially in a heavily censored state like the PRC.
Unfortunately, many still think that the NFL is really a "world" series participated by the majority of people on this planet. LOL
you won't do that by "interacting" with CCP-approved internet
@@numberonedad Will it do any good by "interacting" with Elon Musk approved internet? LOL
@@hyrenaj2888 Indeed! Learning that unfettered capitalism is only one economic method and that many of the happier more equal nations that are still capitalist have more controls and practise greater ethical capitalism - social democracy and indeed socialism doesn't mean totalitarian Communism.
the irony of America trying to build the 'firewall' themselves now...
Sanctioning the whole world, believing everyone is 'isolated' but them ...
The bill to ban TikTok is also followed by ban on VPN🤮
correct
Lol 😂😂I'm in South Africa and it's currently No.2 here. We stand in solidarity with our American brothers and sisters 😂😂😂😂😂
Wait until the power goes out again...
@cehaem2 power? What's that go to do with this again?
Free speech?? What a total and utter joke!
tiktok will still be accessible in the US, unlike in China, where it's banned
@numberonedad OK, no worries, I bow to your greater knowledge. According to Google, TikTok is unavailable in China, but the Chinese have their own version. Sky News have reported that TikTok is to be banned in U.S. from Sunday. Perhaps as this is Sly News that article will be BS..?
@ according to everyone, tiktok is unavailable in china.
no, it won't be banned in the US it just won't be sold on app stores.
@@numberonedad 中国有这个APP。叫抖音，两个APP是一家公司，只是审核制度不同而已，是针对文化不同做的区别而已。不是禁用，这个禁用说法太肤浅了
@ haha the difference is also based on the US being an open democracy and china being a closed autocracy.
good try tho! you guys are too funny
Update: after the brief ban TT has scrubbed clean Palestine content, israel evident of war crime the LA fire, any Ameruvan protest, etc. The algorithm also changed and it is much worse now.
If TikTok sells to Elon Musk ill stop using it
That was fake news btw. No such thing is going to happen.
Bytedance the parent company already denied the rumor, it ain't gonna happen
They said TikTok will financially do just fine without the us participation, they wouldn't need to sell or even care to sell TikTok.
ooooooooooh you wouldn't dare !!!!!
Funnily, I saw a thread of this on rednote.
See! Isn't it nice when the world greets each other with "Hello, how are you today? Instead of "Hey, what's wrong with you?". A happy neighborhood is a happy community that brings happy living.
Never heard about the app. Downloading now out of curiosity.
Thank you Barbra.
The US threatening to ban TikTok made me a TikTok user out of curiosity, TikTok refugees make me a Rednote user. :D
if you think joining chinese apps is an act of rebellion you are very silly indeed
@@numberonedad get out
This number one sb is trying so hard to earn the 1.6B$...
@ haha choosing a new app controlled by an autocracy isn't rebellious in any sense of the word
Are you telling me there is an app minus all Americans? Maybe I should give this TikTok thing a chance.
Don't you believe it, there's going to be American big time companies hiding there. Capitalism is a poison and infiltrates anything healthy.
😅
Don't pretend like the UK is any better.
Actually without China and Americans in the world.
Good luck finding any good content without us lmao
I checked it out. Pretty cool. Chinese people are nice. Also no negativity. They don’t allow hate speech and racism. It’s mostly food, travel and fashion plus lots of pet videos music and dance
The cat is out of bag and any suppression of discourse around Palestine will only anger people further and bring more awareness towards oppression of Palestinians
I got most of my info on gaza on youtube and middle east journalism
@dukeloo you feel like north korea yet
I hate to break it to you - the vast majority doesn't care.
speaking of suppression of discourse, tiktok is banned in china
@@numberonedad It is not banned, they just use their version of Tiktok. It is called Douyin which came out before Tiktok did. The only difference is Tiktok is sold to a Singaporean company to operate under international policies and regulations.
I thought people were going to start using VPNs and hacking their phones 😂 Jumping straight to volunteering their data was a radical jump I wasn't ready for. YOU GO GEN Z YA'LL ACTING UP AND I LOVE IT!
What if the RedNote got banned also?
Make a progressive version @@Banmuyuan
@@Banmuyuan That mean American become 3rd world dictator like country and they will lose popularity
have you tried banning p0rn? trying to ban stuff on the internet is like trying to fight fire with paper... xD
@@Banmuyuan You can just sideload it; slightly complex but given that RedNote is hosted entirely within China and they happen to have the infrastructure to be fully isolated if they so wish, the only problem a ban would need would be to find the app and manually install it, and for China to choose to politely hold a few entrypoint servers open if foreign users behave to their taste.
App access is super easy (just don't get caught) when you know there's sites out there to sail the high seas with phones.
TikTok has officially denied any sell to Elon Musk, they would close it instead.
Which is interesting.
It's high time for the Americans especially the youngsters to know the real China, rather than having lies and endless proofless slanders against China shove down their throats. The Red Note will open doors for meaningful and mind-opening communications and interactions between people of the two big powers. Good progress...
No ccp bootlickers either
though the CCP regime is suppressive and kinda asshole towards it's citizens, power should reside in people to choose
Like around 85% of Chinese people own their homes 😂
the vibe is really warm and welcoming. try it.
No warmongers botlickers either@@_asantesana_squashbanana_
My Chinese friends have berm complaining that their red note platform has suddenly been invaded by Americans LoL... they had no idea about the Tik Tok ban as Tok Tok is not really used in China.
当TT被要求把服务器设在美国的时候就分成了两个版本，每个版本需要服务器所在地的手机号码注册，中国人没有其他国家的手机号码，所以很自然不会登陆美版的TT。
It’s hilarious to see the people on both sides are busy exchanging information eg living costs, wages, health care, tax . It’s beautiful to witness a tearing down of information iron wall. People are same everywhere. We’re all facing the same challenges.
I didn't know about rednote, i thought chinese tiktok is called douyin?
@@aeoligarlic4024 rednote is 小红书/xiao hong shu/； tiktok chinese version is 抖音 /douyin/. They are two different apps
Probably Chinese/Americans or Chinese/Canadians bcs Chinese from China have been very welcoming.
TikTok is the key to real news. They want you to be fed filtered and altered news 😂
To be fair you also have quite a few excellent alternative channels on YT although they are suppressed, and trying to get through in the comments field is a nightmare. Like flipping a coin to find out what goes or not.
"Free Trade" and open society in the "Land of Freedom".
China is famously free....
"Tear Down This Wall ! " -------------------------------------- President Reagan's Historic Speech
What are you complaining about? China doesn't believe in free trade.
tiktok最本质的是他的赛马机制，这是和INS YT等最大的不同。tiktok是去中心化的，赛马机制让底层的一般人更容易被看见，并成为意见领袖。这让一件美国很难达成事情可以比较容易完成，就是阶层跃迁！
This is an interesting perspective, and an important one too.
@@JamieFurlong how you read his/her message? Can you speak mandarin? Cos lately my youtube doesnt translate mandarin anymore 😢😢
@@DA-mo7mw “The most essential thing about tiktok is its horse racing mechanism, which is the biggest difference from INS YT and so on. Tiktok is decentralized, and the horse racing mechanism makes it easier for ordinary people at the bottom to be seen and become opinion leaders. This makes it easier for the United States to achieve something that can be completed more easily, that is, the class leap!”
@@DA-mo7mwthere is a translate to English option at the bottom of the message. Check your app settings you may need to enable it
@@DA-mo7mw There's an option to translate at the bottom of messages if you have that option enabled.
F the empire covering their crimes in Gaza
American govt worried about misinformation 😂
biggest joke of all time, isn't it?🤣🤣
Like criminal worries about crimes.
The same people telling us Biden did a great job are talking about misinformation. Hi food prices, gas prices, war, incompetence, Americans freezing in NC, auto, housing and banks in bad shape and the average consumer having lost 30% of purchasing power.
The US government is the criminal that accuses other countries of the crimes that it committed!
almost as funny as the chinese government worried about disinformation
Such an unexpected, yet comical and fantastic outcome for the people of China and USA getting to know each other for REAL ❤
The last thing the American politicians want is for the Chinese and the American people to communicate and learn from each other because once the two people learn more about each other’s country it makes it much harder for the American politicians to spread their anti-China propaganda!
@@grandwonder5858then why did China banned all the non-Chinese social media apps in their country?
tiktok is banned in china
😂😂
This is a game changer for governments across the world.🎉
and also for people in the US and west.
What congressman Mike is saying, is that we gotta get rid of TikTok, so that WE are their only source of information. Remember Jakidna of New Zealand!?
其实，你们才是不自由的
Only source of MIS-information. LOL
Xiaohongshu has changed my life!!! I never knew how lied to we had been!!! Now there’s no going back!!! I am a full on Proud communist now!!! They are superior in every way!!! 😂❤
Agreed😂
What types of stuff did you see that made you realize you were lied to?
@ It's easy to dehumanize and pit people against each other. Having genuine dialogue and sharing life experiences on xiaohongshu helps to build new bridges.
Me2!
It's so funny reading the English comments in the app, saying that they have been lied to, and didn't know China was that developed.
Where is the freedom of information and freedom of speech 😢?
Americas demise is being accelerated by these stupid moves. Don’t they realise that times have changed. Americans ineptitude is beyond parody. Free Palestine. Go TikTok.
The globalists are installing their totalitarian system.
Was China also labeled as stupid when they banned google, youtube, IG, Facebook and Yahoo? Or its ok when China bans US apps but when US bans ONE Chinese app it makes them stupid?
@ The Chinese gov has been clear on their stance from the start. I think it's more about how the US gov always champion free speech and does the opposite. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Isn’t Tik tok also banned in China…China has a different version of TikTok..Lemon 8?
@@annle9671 Douyin
If people still beleave this is the greatest country, and land of the free, they are in complete denial, or legitimately tarded
It's AMAZING how selective conservatives are when supporting FREE SPEECH.
@@stevesmith7839 100%
I'm downloading the app because I can! I will never allow anybody and especially my government to censor my free speech. I'm perfectly willing to follow the rules of the app and respect the laws of China but I owe no such regard for my own government. This is the land of the free and I'm going to do my part to keep it that way.
你在中国的应用程序上，不能说黄，毒，赌话题，还有对于一些敏感话题也是不能说的。中国人大多数关注的是自己的生活而非政治。
@@JL-xg5jfThis is incorrect. You can discuss political issues based on the truth but not making up facts in Chinese social media.
@@JL-xg5jf I apologize in advance for the crimes against culinary arts you're about to see from some American users.
All social platforms are censored by governments if they are capable. The only differences are good intention or bad intention. Good gov't censors for the good of its people, bad gov't censors to control its people. Chinese gov't must censor because US CIA spies are everywhere.
@hyc1266 All censorship is bad. There is no such thing as "good" censorship. The truth can handle the light it is only the lies that must be protected. Let the truth come out through open dialog. Any and all censorship leads to tyranny.
As native Chinese, I have to spend more than a thousand a year to keep in touch with the world outside the Great Firewall. Never thought that one day a bunch of outside people would rush inside the "wall"🤣
你咋那么贵？？？
@@秦风-d9i 对啊，也就20一个月~你咋那么贵。。
@@JayYao-u8s 还有稳定
你咋那么贵，我一年才一的十分之一
😂😂👏👏👏👏
A sight to behold, I believe in humanity again.
Long live the great unity of the proletariat worldwide - Greetings from China
Ni Hao! ✊️
It's interesting to hear that perspective! In the West, we value individual freedoms, freedom of speech, and open debate, which sometimes lead to very different ideas about unity and governance. While solidarity is important, we also believe that people should have the right to challenge authority, express differing opinions, and make their own choices. It’s important to have a system that encourages open discussion and allows everyone to have a voice, even if it means disagreement.
Welcome to our work camp... Enjoy the astrology based social engineering and numerology we offer lol jk. Good luck and God speed out there 🙏
Go Rednote! Free free Palestine!
That's a topic not allowed on Red Note. No politics.
@@hyc1266小红书没有禁止政治话题，只是政治话题在小红书上不太吸引人注意。中国政治话题比较多的app叫 哔哩哔哩（bilibili）
Regarding _all_ of these severe problems with internet censorship, this is the only solution:
*All types of intellectual property (IP) laws must be fully abolished immediately, in any and all jurisdictions worldwide.* All IP laws are extremely unethical for humankind.
‘Against Intellectual Monopoly’ is the most informative book humanity has on the subject now. ‘Against Intellectual Property’ is _another_ incredible essay, but it’s written with right-libertarian rhetoric so if you’re, like me, not right-libertarian you’ll have to read with an open mind and extract the essential info. _Only_ these two texts are the gold standard when it comes to intellectual property.
I also have a playlist (not _my_ videos) of *the* best videos on intellectual property laws on my channel for all interested.
4:18 why Americans citizens are living in an occupied land next to a concentration camps 5000 miles away from home
I don’t see Native Americans revolting
@@mof5490cos they have all been wiped out 😔
I think it's also important to note how deeply penetrated US social media is by intelligence agencies, both Alphabet and Meta have whole departments specifically for collecting and sharing data with them. That's a huge part of what this is about.
I'm OK with that part, it is the censorship department which is the problem.
@iRelevant.47.system.boycott why are you okay with it? You are aware that it's a violation of your constitutional rights in regards to unwarranted search and seizure?
The government is constantly spying on you, while demonizing other countries for supposedly doing the same thing, and you're just cool with that?
@iRelevant.47.system.boycott I straight up don't believe you're a real person, with an opinion like that.
"Imagine" by John Lennon.....world without borders is inching closer to reality! NO TO WARS!!!!
Can't wait for the list of the state-approved social media
And be just like China hehe
@erin1569 Writers around the middle of last century predicted a whole heap of this dystopian BS. "Yeah man, but it's OUR dystopia, so must be ok..right?.."
It’s really good to know that young people in the US are opening to getting the truth on everything instead of just listening to the very “old” government and the “traditional” fake news media and pure profit oriented social media. This just give us hope that there will be a more peaceful next generation that could work together across different cultures to do exactly what people need to do to save the world from total destruction, either from war or from damaged environments.
你使用“旧”形容美国政府我认为是非常准确的，就像汽车，在硅基芯片几乎达到物理极限，环境污染日益变得严重的今天，西方的汽车工业仍然不突破传统的驱动方式，虽然这与美国的政治结构关连，但世界的进步不会因为霸权主义而停止，就像人体的细胞，无论如何对待自己的身体，但细胞总希望突破，即使发展成为癌症直到毁灭。这个世界没有真正的霸权，美国政府不能总以自我为中心否定一切，否则不是美国毁灭就是世界毁灭。正视他人的发展，共同进步才能使人类文明延续的更加持久。
Quite the opposite, polls show that many American GenZ males are becoming more and more conservative (nationalistic). It is a bad sign that our younger generation can't take the competition and are instead turning far right. This "cultural" war will never end and is becoming dangerous.
@@Frle1001 Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek vision of the future where humanity puts aside rapacious consumerism...OK, the unity only happened in his verse after WW3 killed 600 million..
America's youth is the Future of America. May they be blessed with wisdom, knowledge and acceptance of a diverse universe
@ Why do you quote the rhetoric of communism? Do you also agree with communist values?
The Tik Tok owner is from Singapore, not Chinese. And 42% from Investors are Americans 😂
Tik Tok is operated by Bytedance which IS CCP. Why do you think the CCP bans its citizens from using Tik Tok, and instead uses a different version of it?
And if they hop over to Bilibili, they will see shitload of Ukraine / Gaza / Sudan / Lebanon footages mainstream media would never ever show.
China does have censorship on lots of stuff, but if you understand the rationale behind the decision, and the appropriate way to get around censor subtlety, then all's good.
That's to say Chinese social media is not for everyone, but it does open up a whole new world for those with an open mind.
I guess it is like in the ussr almost everything is legal except if you criticise the party and im fine with that
Just don't expect to hold an insightful discussion on the Uighur genocide, Taiwan, the Senkaku islands, Tiananmen Square, the Umbrella Movement, the housing bubble, or whatever Chinese social unrest happens to be going on in a given week, and you'll be fine. Cat videos and makeup tutorials are cool. Food is also cool so long as it doesn't show people behaving with excessive gluttony. Confucian values are also cool. People using powerdrills to eat corn is sometimes cool, sometimes might get you banned.
@@Elcore let's look at that from another perspective. With the Chinese at least I know what's taboo and what's not, and that's no worse than living in the illusion that I have free speech, proceed to type a zillion words to express my thoughts and have them just disappear.
@rafl326 You can criticize, it is organizing a revolt/sedition that is not allow.
@@Elcore Which parallel world do you live in, or you just still believe in your mainstream media’s propaganda?🤣
I was never on TikTok and I'm against Genocide! I guess you will have to ban my morality. Good Luck!
Morality has already been banned in government
Tik Tok has nothing to do with genocide.
what genocide?
……. I will pay you the fees in wherever you want. Just book a flight yourself 😅
Do you mean Israel or the Native Americans?
Fun fact: Comrade Mao's book of socialist ideology is also called Little Red Book.
Beyond just being a true red China app, the app is named after THE Chinese socialist guide!
毫无关系，本意是女孩们的爱美笔记，小=可爱小巧，红=红色，鲜艳，女人喜欢，书=笔记本，记录生活，画妆，穿衣方法笔记
not really.
Gone are the days when the Uncivilized States government could decide on everything in the world.
They're banning that stupid platform only in the US, wtf are you on about?
I am surprised that in Europe and North America, most of the top 1 app in the Apple Store are rednote.🤣🤣🤣
Australia 也是一样
😂 please please please never stop calling it Twitter 🤣
Every human from any country has full right to befriend others from any other country. History repeats itself, the power hungry will always divide us, but the population will always prevail. Nothing is stronger than the curiosity and hope humanity has. We would be so much stronger as a whole, without oppressive governments.
Well said!
What would be funny is if the younger generation will be the one to mend the relationships between us where politicians failed miserably.
We Chinese only use xiaohongshu to share daily life and experience and that's what us government called a propaganda😅
Before foreign users came in, I used Xiaohongshu as a search citation
@ 我也 查攻略啥的很方便
@@理塘最強伝説絕兇の猛 哥们你名字都这样了就别打英文了
@@段光-m6x 我也不知道她是国人呀
@@理塘最強伝説絕兇の猛 你简直笑死我了兄弟哈哈哈哈哈
In the past, Google was unwilling to establish a local database, and the map annotation error could not be solved, so Google chose to withdraw from the mainland Chinese market. China makes its own software. TikTok has established a special database in the United States, which has passed the legal certification of the United States, and is also the responsibility of Americans themselves. Now it is banned. There is still a difference between the two. Executor of H.R.1157 ？
In conclusion, USA is the real wall country, real dictatorship and censorship country, not China ❤❤
Welcome to Cold War 2 The Sequel. Americans are scared of anything they call communist and socialist, and they don't like how younger Americans like socialism and call them communists and then blame it on scapegoats like TikTok. Because to old Americans the only reason someone would like socialism is if China indoctrinates them into USSR-era communists.
正确的，许多人以为是中国政府直接ban掉了国外软件，实际上那些软件进入中国时充满了傲慢，并且中国本土软件快速补充了市场
加入小红书的美国人，真的觉醒了，逃离了政府障碍，抛开了媒体偏见误导，看到了真实的中国。。。。然后彻底觉醒了
How was lobbying ever acceptable? From the first time I heard of it I thought it was foul
To lobby is simply a prettier way of saying to "bri8e". At the end, there is nothing pretty about it!
In China, lobbying is almost equivalent to bribery. When I first heard that lobbying is legal in the US, I was shocked. This kind of thing is absolutely despised in China.
Yup, lobbying is bribery euphemised. “Defending Freedom and democracy” is pretexts for wars and bombings and robbery and neo-colonialism….. wolves in sheep’s skin….
Americans also ask the same thing. It's been complained about here in the US for DECADES.
It is legalised corruption. Been there ever since the SCOTUS ruled it was covered by the first amendment.
Our Chinese social media platforms are much better than American-controlled ones. I always use red notes to get information about health. We also have bilibili and weibo. China is a tech sovereign country.
So long as you don't mention a certain country or square amirite.
@@ooombasa5080 You swallowed the lies about Tiananmen
@@alan2102X其实绝大部分人都没有了解那件事情的真相,就像美国不喜欢中国一样。他们也就不可能公正的来评判这件事。,他们不会把对中国有利的新闻呈现给你。😂
@ Yep. That's what it is like in the U.S.
@@alan2102X Do you know about the Indonesian Black May riots, the Srebrenica massacre, the Sudanese civil war, the Gujarat riots in India, and similar events? How many political incidents in recent decades have resulted in hundreds of deaths? Have you ever wondered why most people haven't heard about the majority of political events around the world, yet they remember the Tiananmen incident so clearly?