The extremely tight supplies of Star Wars and One Piece are probably holding both games back at this point, especially One Piece. I think all of the games on this list could easily last 5 more years, but beyond that it's hard to say. The track record of FaB and its slower release schedule will definitely be advantages in the long-term.
True, the games you mentioned sell out in the blink of an eye, and FAB continues to set the standard for how a new game should react to the market and it's playerbase
One piece is readily available at my lgs but at higher prices than msrp. It's like $190 a box for 06, $260 a box for 05 and the community is growing. I've been into yugioh, pokemon, one piece, lorcana, MtG but going to check out FaB as the prices seem more reasonable
The one reason why i havent started playing One Piece is because of the huge money hurdle. There was an admiral deck my friend let me use when he was teaching me how to play and after hearing the price, it was an immediate turn off. I played yugioh before, im not gonna play another game just because theres no balancing/rotation when thats the cause of overpriced cards.
@@breloopharos1919 $150 - $350 for meta decks is pretty standard though. You're not going to get any cheaper with Lorcana or Flesh & Blood either. Not sure about the other too. Honestly feels like Pokemon is the only affordable competitive TCG.
Bro ive played the “big 3” extensively. One Piece is by far the most fun TCG I’ve ever played and it’s NOTHING to do with the IP. You are underselling it massively here - the game itself is why it’s so successful. The game rocks!
I fully agree I just picked up two blitz decks to play with my girlfriend and this is after years of play yu gi oh and collecting Pokémon cards. I'm about to go buy some flesh and blood packs or one more blitz deck before I start buying singles.
I am shocked with how well Grand Archive has done at my LGS. I had never heard of it until someone came in and asked if we would host events, we said yes and didn't expect much. To our surprise, we have averaged about 10 players a week, and I even built a Rai deck and have been having a blast
Digimon kinda killed itself with the feature/power creep, it is insane... I loved the game in the beginning, but everything after BT-8 or 9 I think got out of hand and so many people, including myself, stopped playing.
@@mrwhite2039 I think lorcana is considered a good game now and preferred by many over digimon. However, I’ve never played either one of them, so I’m just going by what I see covered online. Maybe I’m wrong.
Statistically speaking, most of these games won't make it long term, but it would be nice to see a few of them make it 10+ years. And of course Flesh and Blood should see 20+ years.
FaB dumped there 1st edition cards.. Showing very poor managed fundamentals, since 'collecting and trading' should be the core driver of what makes a good TCG.. Furthermore there artwork is mostly in the realm of depressing dark and gore allowing less demographic (16+). They also print new sets too fast and making older sets power creep hard! Its just a very bad investment cash grab company, with very bad card cut quality (I still need to offload 10 boxes Tales of Aria 1st edition below retail!).. Grand archive beats all these flaws and then some, creating less bulk in cards since all decks can use almost all cards, it has the best deck building variety hence the name 'Grand Archive' - and for the poor competing people they allow proxy cards into tournaments, very clever!.. (FaB cards that are required to be competitive are money gated, is bad by design) The GA card quality is top tier premium, the game has its own IP and is created by true card gamers for card gamers, backed and kickstarted by the community itself.. They are doing slow print runs to allow people to get involved, while keeping all initial classes balanced and are able to expand on those classes, while keeping them innovative and interesting using elemental combo`s and different lineages!.. Grand Archive has way more potential in not only playability with great pacing and mechanics, but also with collecting high value cards, that are honestly distributed and these cards are not required to be competitive.. Making GA a true all-round innovative top notch TCG. People are just not fully awake yet to realize and kill there darlins, to come to the conclusion what has just been said.. Go figure but my FaB decks are dusty and I will be happy to sell or burn them..
All of my kids 7,8, and 9 and my niece 14 and nephew 11 have seen and currently watch OP. Everytime their friends come over to swim they end up watching it. I think it being popular now and to the players/anime fans of the future is going to continue massive success
I started getting into Flesh and Blood. After the Universes Beyond stuff with MTG, I might just put all my effort into it. My wife really enjoys Lorcana and I've gotta say I was very skeptical at first but I'm actually loving the way they do it!
Quit magic and went into sorcery for a couple reasons, 1 it was brand new at the time I was looking for a new game and I love that art. I'm 27 so I never had the chance of early days magic and this makes me feel good. I really enjoy the unique game play too. One piece, lorcana, Star wars all seem like cheesy cash grabs because they have popular IPs.
Naa you dont need to know One Piece to enjoy the game. The game is actually AMAZING. Most players seem to be ex-yugioh players who haven’t even read One Piece
I would like to see a video about Lorcana. I personally am not interested in playing but I would be interested in seeing the expectations vs reality of the game Flesh and Blood and Grand Archive are my favs at the moment!
And 3rd* where the hell was digimon tcg, the games been going strong since its been released, the cards are nice and thick, the foils are super unique and pringle... mtg - - . The gameplay is fast and is a tug of war between u and the opponent. Game can be over in like 5 to 10 mins max
I am still waiting for Lorcana set three to come down in price a bit before I fully commit to it, but I love the direction Grand Archive and Flesh and Blood are heading too. Seeing how successful Grand Archive is as a Kickstart TCG makes me wonder just how big of a splash Altered TCG will make when it finally hits shelves.
so I've been looking for a tcg to collect because all the main ones like yugioh and Pokémon and mtg aren't interesting to me anymore so now I'm wondering should i be collecting flesh and blood or grand archive? Christmas is coming up so i wanna choose soon.
Lorcana looks really cool. It’s like magic but an interesting twist. Even my local game stores have started hosting Star Wars. One piece and Digimon are surprisingly big in my area. One piece slowly seems to be taking over Digimon tho.
Go Grand Archive!! I’ve played almost all the games on the list (just not Star Wars) and it’s def my most fav so far~ The art, community, and interaction with the dev team really make it a top notch game imo. Hopefully year 2 brings it more attention to new players!
Lorcana in my area is still really difficult to get a hold of. It got too expensive too fast in my opinion. The community is hyper, toxic and small. I don’t know if I’m just a unique area, but I really wanted to like the game but at this point it left such a bad taste that I don’t think I’d ever try it again
Grand Archive is an absolutely phenomenal game and a great alternative to MtG for someone like me who's fed up with how commander focused Magic has become (I don't like anything commander has to offer). It offers so much complexity and originality but also has the cool factor in spades with what you're able to do in a turn. Even though I'm a huge anime and manga fan I don't like the overly waifu-centric approach to the art but the cards that aren't focused on boobs (and some of them as well) look really great...
Its taken awhile but it really feels like companies have a grip on making strong marketable and sustainable card games. Tournament support dev transparency and online resources are at an all time high. Out of the 5 you put up there Ive only really dabbled in fab and grand archive cuz one piece gameplay is a bit too similar to other games Ive tried and I just haven't had a chance to check out the star wars game. I disagree with people who say digimon should have been here, its doing very well with what it has but its not making the splash these 5 games have been for various reasons (time, support, etc) but its an incredibly unique game that's a great product for the ip.
I'm very hesitant about the Star Wars TCG, and that's because of FFG's track record. They tend to release a great release & 1st expansion, but starts power creeping the crap out of and destroying the game 2nd expansion on. I love FaB & Grand Archive, though!
I think FaB is a fantastic game, the best out there IMHO. However, I have some concerns when it comes to the collection aspect of the game as it is a very important component of the success of a TCG. Today, prices are solely driven by the cards playability, it is not unusual to see Majestics being more expensive than CF Legendaries. As soon as a hero reaches LL, cards played in this specific class will see their prices drop significantly. When a new hero is announced, the cards used by this hero class will see their prices increase dramatically. Playing FaB is expensive and it is very frustrating for a new player to see the hero they invested so much time and money in going LL after just a few months - thinking about Kayo of course, even though he's not LL yet. Is getting marvels of your favorite hero really worthwhile considering the fact that prices will drop immediately after that hero goes LL? I know that heroes will still be playable in the LL format but...is it really going to happen? Is the LL format really going to be a thing? Who will want to play Kayo when they can play Lexi, Chane, Briar or Starvo? LSS needs to find the right compromise between players and collectors to keep the game healthy, I really want this game to last for as long as possible.
The game is healthy as it is, collectors have CF legendaries, extended arts, fabled and marvels. Let the players play with the cards and the meta decided the value of a card meant to be play. IMO the bad side of LSS/FaB is the products they sell, outside of the boxes, the blitz decks and now the Armory decks (with low supply), there is not enough variaty of producs for different kinds of people and for all budgets.
The TCG/CCG's I'm casually, currently playing are Digimon, Cardfight Vanguard & Redemption. I honestly have no interest in getting involved in other card games right now, it starts to get expensive.
I am an avid One Piece player, love playing it at my local LGS and while I really like Flesh and Blood, it doesn't seem to have a big following locally. I dabbled in Lorcana and while it felt fine, it just didn't hook me and make me yearn for that perfect build or to crack packs. Star Wars looks like fun in how it plays but the product is like One Piece, near non-existent which gives me little desire to chase it. I am looking forward to trying out Altered when it releases and I also enjoy playing the new Dragon Ball Fusion World but it shares the Bandai curse, finding product is a game of hide-and-seek.
FAB and One Piece for me. FAB i tried cos imo it's the best card game out there, and One Piece, because I grew up with it. I am 31, and have been following one piece for 20 years now. When I saw a card game it was only logical to try it out. I had lots of fun with it, and my local community for one piece is big, so I picked it up. I am biased, but between FAB's organised play plan I believe in, and as you yourself said, the fact that One Piece already kinda becomes the "big 4th" making the big 3 big 4, I believe both of the games I play are here to stay!
I have been playing OP since it came out but I wish they slow down on the set releases, we are seeing up to 5 sets per year with special releases, that is every 2 1/2 months. people trying to get cards for the first month and practice with it and when you think you are ready to use the deck you put together is already unplayable lol. Maybe 3 releases per year will be good.
@@DMArmada doesn't seem like it lol. I usually skip one set since I can't keep up with the releases and the prices are very high the first 2 months after the release
Hi DM, congratulations on your channel, let me tell you a story, I am a HUGE fan of Star wars so when I went to my local game store to learn how to play I was very impressed with the game and I love it, but... Is more strategic than I thought and a little heavier for my family and friends, the player community of unlimited is very small in my area. So, that same day one of the guys that teache me Unlimited was going to take a how to play Lorcana from another group in the store so I decided to stay, and we played Lorcana, easy, fast and most important FUN, my family loved it, my friends loved it. And I will play Unlimited but just my deck probably 2 and that´s it, our main TCG will be lorcana, I have 3 decks so far, Hades titans. Hades green and 101 puppies, so yes I believe is going to be for long term game. Thanks for reading.
So, I played Flesh and Blood and still play Lorcana and One Piece. In my opinion Lorcana is the best game of these three with the crucial downside that is still has no organized play. That's why I mostly play One Piece at the moment. It has more players and regular events. But I'm hyped for when Ravensburger at last gets their s**t together... 😊
@@IanM92 awesome, I thought their business model was, but seeing you not mention them had me asking haha. How do you find those other games by the way? I’m way more interested in exploring newer ideas, creativity and small businesses, especially when they learn so much from what’s come before like FaB did
@@IanM92 sorry mate, I can’t see anything other than the message asking if your reply sent. Sounds like you put some effort in as well, I appreciate it anyway
I wish I could agree with Grand Archive. I really want to get into it, but no LGS near me has players playing it. Same thing happened with Shadowverse Evolve. It's so frustrating there are all these fun looking TCG's I want to try, but the same 3 games just dominate everywhere so I just can't try them. These companies need to focus on getting online game clients for their games, I really don't understand how it's not a priority.
Id say lorcana is in the big guys court right now judging by personnal experiance. With the big 3 its the only game avaiable to all 3 lgs in my area. All others sucha as onepiece or digimon skip one or two of the lgs. Also its everywhere, book store, music store, non tcg lgs and many more carie this game and rarely any other.
Have tried to dive into other games, but there just isn’t enough time or money😭. Flesh and Blood is such a difficult game it’s taking more time than I have already. Trying to get better and collect all the cards for just that game is overwhelming. Love Star Wars gameplay and IP. Tried Lorcana briefly and had fun, ultimately being impossible to get the first set turned me away early. Grand Archive seems like a fun game haven’t tried it. Liked art and gameplay of Alpha Clash. Haven’t tried or been interested in One Piece. Keep getting sidetracked from trying Sorcery. Almost got sucked back into Pokémon. If I had endless money and time I’d play and collect more😭
digimon tcg also had potential next year go for 5th year and unification release set english and JP cant wait share gameplay with jp and english version.... also ultraman tcg also otw
Has anybody heard of these Dragon Ball 40th anniversary jump box card sets? I saw a few of them and they look pretty cool but I’m worried that they’re not licensed. The seller mentioned that they come from China which is a big red flag for me also. Like I said, they’re cool looking cards and I’m interested, butI’m kinda only interested in licensed product
Until One Piece dies down. I see more longevity in Lorcana than One Piece. Pokémon and Disney are always going to appeal to kids. One Piece is more centered around older people.
Played FaB for a while. Community was nice but also very try hard. Couldnt really build a fun deck because everybody only wanted to play meta decks. Also the cost to invest in it is already too much to get the cards you need for competitive. Im into both Lorcana and SWU now and i got in when they both came out so i can grow with the game and hopefully get value out of early cards when later sets release. p.s. Feel like Digimon has a bigger following than Grand Archive personally. Never heard of that game before this video.
As a content creator of One piece card game from brazil i can say that The game is taking brazil out!!! But i'm enjoying Fab a lot for two reasons: here in brazil its easy to find and cheap!!
can anyone actually question the longevity of One Piece??? One of the most investable/collectable card games to be released recently. I think people recognize that value. Most memorable characters and nostalgic factor. This will have a large player base regardless
FFG now is not the same FFG it was 2 years ago. Ownership is different, leadership is different, the design teams are different, the OP teams are different and the media teams are different. I was very hesitant to buy into SWU but after learning this, and the quality of the game, I have no hesitation.
@@lightgames7474I've been burned by FFG too many time to put any money into their games anymore, I hope it ends up sticking around though from what I hear the game's good.
DM i know you think Sorcery is a board game, and not a TCG, but i disagree and think it has a brighter future than everything on this list save for FAB and SWU.
Are we only talking new card games? cause if not Pokemon will probably stay top 1. This thing is a juggernaut and the kids still love it. Maybe One Piece has the potential to surpass it one day but I doubt it.
I mentioned alpha clash briefly in the video, and I'm pretty neutral on Digimon ATM. It has continued to sell consistently but very rarely played at the LGS's is in my area
@@MrRayRockstar I was originally not that interested in sorcery but once I started collecting and even playing I’ve been absolutely hooked like no other tcg so far! It’s all personal preference! But I do like the way the company is being run also which is reassuring for its future (hopefully!)
I think the biggest turn off from this list, altough all amazing games and i totally agree with your view on them (specially flesh and blood), is about mainly One piece. OPTCG biggest problem is the lack of supplies, specially in my country, since jp cards are banned in locals and regionals and english packs are so hard to find now
I want to like FaB. But the learning curve is steep, deckbuilding is extremely limited (pick a hero and the deck practically builds itself), and it's getting way too expensive to build competitive decks.
completely disagree with Grand Achieve, the player base will ruin this game. I play it competitively and the prices that people try to get are absolutely delusional. And I will agree even though i hate the show, but one piece seems to be really holding strong. Flesh and blood is a solid game but just lacks something a little more immersive.
Agree prices are pretty ludicrous at the moment. I think there's a lot of people out there sitting and hoarding cards and putting out singles. That might just be a symptom of being a less mature market but hopefully that improves in the future.
Idk about Grand Archive. I don't see a lot of anything about it online and most of the LGS's near me have dropped it already. And while they aren't likely to be the next Pokemon or MtG, I think Mythik TCG and Nostalgix are great smaller games to look into!
The extremely tight supplies of Star Wars and One Piece are probably holding both games back at this point, especially One Piece. I think all of the games on this list could easily last 5 more years, but beyond that it's hard to say. The track record of FaB and its slower release schedule will definitely be advantages in the long-term.
True, the games you mentioned sell out in the blink of an eye, and FAB continues to set the standard for how a new game should react to the market and it's playerbase
One piece is readily available at my lgs but at higher prices than msrp. It's like $190 a box for 06, $260 a box for 05 and the community is growing.
I've been into yugioh, pokemon, one piece, lorcana, MtG but going to check out FaB as the prices seem more reasonable
The one reason why i havent started playing One Piece is because of the huge money hurdle. There was an admiral deck my friend let me use when he was teaching me how to play and after hearing the price, it was an immediate turn off. I played yugioh before, im not gonna play another game just because theres no balancing/rotation when thats the cause of overpriced cards.
@@breloopharos1919 $150 - $350 for meta decks is pretty standard though. You're not going to get any cheaper with Lorcana or Flesh & Blood either. Not sure about the other too. Honestly feels like Pokemon is the only affordable competitive TCG.
Thanks god the reprints slowly coming and big influencer like moistcritical and hassanabi playing one piece also help.
FAB is such a great TCG. I've been obsessed for a year and it just keeps getting better!
I play FaB, SWU, and Lorcana. Lorcana has been surprising. SWU feels really nice but nothing compares to FaB for competitive game though imo.
I wish I had fab in my area. But nope.
Bro ive played the “big 3” extensively. One Piece is by far the most fun TCG I’ve ever played and it’s NOTHING to do with the IP. You are underselling it massively here - the game itself is why it’s so successful. The game rocks!
I havent ever had as much fun with a TCG as i am playing flesh and blood and ive been playing and collecting tcgs for as long as i have memories
I fully agree I just picked up two blitz decks to play with my girlfriend and this is after years of play yu gi oh and collecting Pokémon cards. I'm about to go buy some flesh and blood packs or one more blitz deck before I start buying singles.
I am shocked with how well Grand Archive has done at my LGS. I had never heard of it until someone came in and asked if we would host events, we said yes and didn't expect much. To our surprise, we have averaged about 10 players a week, and I even built a Rai deck and have been having a blast
Dang, the disrespect that digimon wasn't even on the list 😒
Because it’s not good 😂
Digimon kinda killed itself with the feature/power creep, it is insane... I loved the game in the beginning, but everything after BT-8 or 9 I think got out of hand and so many people, including myself, stopped playing.
Digimon isn't here, just like Magic, Yu-Gi-Oh! and Pokemon and I'm sure these will be here too in 5 years
Yeah and instead Lorcrapa
@@mrwhite2039 I think lorcana is considered a good game now and preferred by many over digimon. However, I’ve never played either one of them, so I’m just going by what I see covered online. Maybe I’m wrong.
Huge Grand Archive fan went to a random event and it had 59 people at it lol
As a TCG fan It feels so nice to be eating this good this regularly.
Statistically speaking, most of these games won't make it long term, but it would be nice to see a few of them make it 10+ years. And of course Flesh and Blood should see 20+ years.
FaB dumped there 1st edition cards.. Showing very poor managed fundamentals, since 'collecting and trading' should be the core driver of what makes a good TCG.. Furthermore there artwork is mostly in the realm of depressing dark and gore allowing less demographic (16+). They also print new sets too fast and making older sets power creep hard! Its just a very bad investment cash grab company, with very bad card cut quality (I still need to offload 10 boxes Tales of Aria 1st edition below retail!)..
Grand archive beats all these flaws and then some, creating less bulk in cards since all decks can use almost all cards, it has the best deck building variety hence the name 'Grand Archive' - and for the poor competing people they allow proxy cards into tournaments, very clever!.. (FaB cards that are required to be competitive are money gated, is bad by design)
The GA card quality is top tier premium, the game has its own IP and is created by true card gamers for card gamers, backed and kickstarted by the community itself..
They are doing slow print runs to allow people to get involved, while keeping all initial classes balanced and are able to expand on those classes, while keeping them innovative and interesting using elemental combo`s and different lineages!.. Grand Archive has way more potential in not only playability with great pacing and mechanics, but also with collecting high value cards, that are honestly distributed and these cards are not required to be competitive.. Making GA a true all-round innovative top notch TCG. People are just not fully awake yet to realize and kill there darlins, to come to the conclusion what has just been said.. Go figure but my FaB decks are dusty and I will be happy to sell or burn them..
All of my kids 7,8, and 9 and my niece 14 and nephew 11 have seen and currently watch OP. Everytime their friends come over to swim they end up watching it. I think it being popular now and to the players/anime fans of the future is going to continue massive success
Agreed
just over here in my corner playing vanguard LOL
I mean I think it should be on here they just celebrated 10 years and are doing really well rn
I love the Feisty Locals hat. As a Fiesty Local, it's another reason to play Flesh and Blood - it has one of the best TCG communities hands down!
I started getting into Flesh and Blood. After the Universes Beyond stuff with MTG, I might just put all my effort into it. My wife really enjoys Lorcana and I've gotta say I was very skeptical at first but I'm actually loving the way they do it!
Quit magic and went into sorcery for a couple reasons, 1 it was brand new at the time I was looking for a new game and I love that art. I'm 27 so I never had the chance of early days magic and this makes me feel good. I really enjoy the unique game play too.
One piece, lorcana, Star wars all seem like cheesy cash grabs because they have popular IPs.
Naa you dont need to know One Piece to enjoy the game. The game is actually AMAZING. Most players seem to be ex-yugioh players who haven’t even read One Piece
I would like to see a video about Lorcana. I personally am not interested in playing but I would be interested in seeing the expectations vs reality of the game
Flesh and Blood and Grand Archive are my favs at the moment!
Thoughts on digimon?
Love your comments on Grand Archive, easily my favorite TCG I’ve ever played
Here's hoping that Warlord manages to make a good comeback after it's kickstarter
And 3rd* where the hell was digimon tcg, the games been going strong since its been released, the cards are nice and thick, the foils are super unique and pringle... mtg - - . The gameplay is fast and is a tug of war between u and the opponent. Game can be over in like 5 to 10 mins max
I am still waiting for Lorcana set three to come down in price a bit before I fully commit to it, but I love the direction Grand Archive and Flesh and Blood are heading too.
Seeing how successful Grand Archive is as a Kickstart TCG makes me wonder just how big of a splash Altered TCG will make when it finally hits shelves.
Looking forward to seeing Altered on a future version of this video :)
so I've been looking for a tcg to collect because all the main ones like yugioh and Pokémon and mtg aren't interesting to me anymore so now I'm wondering should i be collecting flesh and blood or grand archive? Christmas is coming up so i wanna choose soon.
thoughts on grand archive?
well really i guess which one would you recommend? of the two
SWU is easy to pick up, but has a very high skill ceiling, the amount of decision points in every game is insane. It's so much fun.
Lorcana looks really cool. It’s like magic but an interesting twist.
Even my local game stores have started hosting Star Wars.
One piece and Digimon are surprisingly big in my area.
One piece slowly seems to be taking over Digimon tho.
It'd be nice if they had digital games out for these. Kinda wanna check em out
Go Grand Archive!! I’ve played almost all the games on the list (just not Star Wars) and it’s def my most fav so far~ The art, community, and interaction with the dev team really make it a top notch game imo. Hopefully year 2 brings it more attention to new players!
Sorcery: Contested Realm ... should be in here ...Fabled-S is coming out, Drakerion, Mythrel resurgence!
What about Digimon TCG???
Just bought a sealed 1st edition blue bottom one piece booster box. Do I open or diamond hands?
Lorcana in my area is still really difficult to get a hold of. It got too expensive too fast in my opinion. The community is hyper, toxic and small. I don’t know if I’m just a unique area, but I really wanted to like the game but at this point it left such a bad taste that I don’t think I’d ever try it again
@@TheDavethepally interesting, perhaps it's the locals there but I haven't experienced the toxicity you've mentioned
Might dip my toes into Lorcana, but FAB continues to crush it.
Grand Archive is an absolutely phenomenal game and a great alternative to MtG for someone like me who's fed up with how commander focused Magic has become (I don't like anything commander has to offer).
It offers so much complexity and originality but also has the cool factor in spades with what you're able to do in a turn.
Even though I'm a huge anime and manga fan I don't like the overly waifu-centric approach to the art but the cards that aren't focused on boobs (and some of them as well) look really great...
Its taken awhile but it really feels like companies have a grip on making strong marketable and sustainable card games. Tournament support dev transparency and online resources are at an all time high.
Out of the 5 you put up there Ive only really dabbled in fab and grand archive cuz one piece gameplay is a bit too similar to other games Ive tried and I just haven't had a chance to check out the star wars game.
I disagree with people who say digimon should have been here, its doing very well with what it has but its not making the splash these 5 games have been for various reasons (time, support, etc) but its an incredibly unique game that's a great product for the ip.
lorcana is super fun, great local scene and loving the direction.
I'm very hesitant about the Star Wars TCG, and that's because of FFG's track record. They tend to release a great release & 1st expansion, but starts power creeping the crap out of and destroying the game 2nd expansion on. I love FaB & Grand Archive, though!
I think FaB is a fantastic game, the best out there IMHO. However, I have some concerns when it comes to the collection aspect of the game as it is a very important component of the success of a TCG.
Today, prices are solely driven by the cards playability, it is not unusual to see Majestics being more expensive than CF Legendaries. As soon as a hero reaches LL, cards played in this specific class will see their prices drop significantly. When a new hero is announced, the cards used by this hero class will see their prices increase dramatically.
Playing FaB is expensive and it is very frustrating for a new player to see the hero they invested so much time and money in going LL after just a few months - thinking about Kayo of course, even though he's not LL yet. Is getting marvels of your favorite hero really worthwhile considering the fact that prices will drop immediately after that hero goes LL?
I know that heroes will still be playable in the LL format but...is it really going to happen? Is the LL format really going to be a thing? Who will want to play Kayo when they can play Lexi, Chane, Briar or Starvo?
LSS needs to find the right compromise between players and collectors to keep the game healthy, I really want this game to last for as long as possible.
I think this is how it's supposed to go. Mtg was same in early 2000. Cards not in standard went from 20$ to 2$ etc.
The game is healthy as it is, collectors have CF legendaries, extended arts, fabled and marvels. Let the players play with the cards and the meta decided the value of a card meant to be play. IMO the bad side of LSS/FaB is the products they sell, outside of the boxes, the blitz decks and now the Armory decks (with low supply), there is not enough variaty of producs for different kinds of people and for all budgets.
As someone who has been looking to diversify my game pool, this video was perfect.
Thank you!
The TCG/CCG's I'm casually, currently playing are Digimon, Cardfight Vanguard & Redemption.
I honestly have no interest in getting involved in other card games right now, it starts to get expensive.
I am an avid One Piece player, love playing it at my local LGS and while I really like Flesh and Blood, it doesn't seem to have a big following locally. I dabbled in Lorcana and while it felt fine, it just didn't hook me and make me yearn for that perfect build or to crack packs. Star Wars looks like fun in how it plays but the product is like One Piece, near non-existent which gives me little desire to chase it. I am looking forward to trying out Altered when it releases and I also enjoy playing the new Dragon Ball Fusion World but it shares the Bandai curse, finding product is a game of hide-and-seek.
FAB and One Piece for me. FAB i tried cos imo it's the best card game out there, and One Piece, because I grew up with it. I am 31, and have been following one piece for 20 years now. When I saw a card game it was only logical to try it out. I had lots of fun with it, and my local community for one piece is big, so I picked it up.
I am biased, but between FAB's organised play plan I believe in, and as you yourself said, the fact that One Piece already kinda becomes the "big 4th" making the big 3 big 4, I believe both of the games I play are here to stay!
100% agree
Watch as Sorcery surpasses all of them.
@@ShivanAngel15 we shall see! Sorcery knows it's niche well
I really like FaB and SVE!
I have been playing OP since it came out but I wish they slow down on the set releases, we are seeing up to 5 sets per year with special releases, that is every 2 1/2 months. people trying to get cards for the first month and practice with it and when you think you are ready to use the deck you put together is already unplayable lol. Maybe 3 releases per year will be good.
@@Electro-nics ouch, that's painful... Are they lowering the release cadence?
@@DMArmada doesn't seem like it lol. I usually skip one set since I can't keep up with the releases and the prices are very high the first 2 months after the release
Alpha Clash is another good game its been trending up for a year straight now. With a board game coming in the fall
You missed out Sorcery
Hi DM, congratulations on your channel, let me tell you a story, I am a HUGE fan of Star wars so when I went to my local game store to learn how to play I was very impressed with the game and I love it, but... Is more strategic than I thought and a little heavier for my family and friends, the player community of unlimited is very small in my area. So, that same day one of the guys that teache me Unlimited was going to take a how to play Lorcana from another group in the store so I decided to stay, and we played Lorcana, easy, fast and most important FUN, my family loved it, my friends loved it. And I will play Unlimited but just my deck probably 2 and that´s it, our main TCG will be lorcana, I have 3 decks so far, Hades titans. Hades green and 101 puppies, so yes I believe is going to be for long term game. Thanks for reading.
So,
I played Flesh and Blood and still play Lorcana and One Piece.
In my opinion Lorcana is the best game of these three with the crucial downside that is still has no organized play. That's why I mostly play One Piece at the moment. It has more players and regular events. But I'm hyped for when Ravensburger at last gets their s**t together... 😊
Flesh and Blood is legit the best TCG ive every played. insane skill ceiling but easy to pick up. also helps that LSS are an amazing company.
FaB and SWU here. 1V1 duel and frontlines versus. This is the way
I’m far more interested in indie card games like Sorcery: Contested Realm, Warlord: Saga of the Storm, Alpha Clash.
Wouldn’t FaB count as an indie?
@@CommissionerManu yes
@@IanM92 awesome, I thought their business model was, but seeing you not mention them had me asking haha. How do you find those other games by the way? I’m way more interested in exploring newer ideas, creativity and small businesses, especially when they learn so much from what’s come before like FaB did
@@CommissionerManu did my reply send? It was quite long. But it’s not showing it sent on my end
@@IanM92 sorry mate, I can’t see anything other than the message asking if your reply sent. Sounds like you put some effort in as well, I appreciate it anyway
I wish I could agree with Grand Archive. I really want to get into it, but no LGS near me has players playing it. Same thing happened with Shadowverse Evolve. It's so frustrating there are all these fun looking TCG's I want to try, but the same 3 games just dominate everywhere so I just can't try them.
These companies need to focus on getting online game clients for their games, I really don't understand how it's not a priority.
Id say lorcana is in the big guys court right now judging by personnal experiance. With the big 3 its the only game avaiable to all 3 lgs in my area. All others sucha as onepiece or digimon skip one or two of the lgs. Also its everywhere, book store, music store, non tcg lgs and many more carie this game and rarely any other.
what about altered tcg?
Where's digimon, dragon ball super, and cardfight? I haven't even heard of some of these
Grand Archive is well deserved!! Great game!!!
I'm sure if you had expanded the list to 6, Genesis would have made the list. :)
Renaissance of TCGs?? HAHAHHAA
Alpha clash wasn't included 😥
Have tried to dive into other games, but there just isn’t enough time or money😭. Flesh and Blood is such a difficult game it’s taking more time than I have already. Trying to get better and collect all the cards for just that game is overwhelming. Love Star Wars gameplay and IP. Tried Lorcana briefly and had fun, ultimately being impossible to get the first set turned me away early. Grand Archive seems like a fun game haven’t tried it. Liked art and gameplay of Alpha Clash. Haven’t tried or been interested in One Piece. Keep getting sidetracked from trying Sorcery. Almost got sucked back into Pokémon. If I had endless money and time I’d play and collect more😭
digimon tcg also had potential next year go for 5th year and unification release set english and JP cant wait share gameplay with jp and english version.... also ultraman tcg also otw
Has anybody heard of these Dragon Ball 40th anniversary jump box card sets? I saw a few of them and they look pretty cool but I’m worried that they’re not licensed. The seller mentioned that they come from China which is a big red flag for me also. Like I said, they’re cool looking cards and I’m interested, butI’m kinda only interested in licensed product
Until One Piece dies down. I see more longevity in Lorcana than One Piece. Pokémon and Disney are always going to appeal to kids. One Piece is more centered around older people.
Played FaB for a while. Community was nice but also very try hard. Couldnt really build a fun deck because everybody only wanted to play meta decks. Also the cost to invest in it is already too much to get the cards you need for competitive. Im into both Lorcana and SWU now and i got in when they both came out so i can grow with the game and hopefully get value out of early cards when later sets release.
p.s. Feel like Digimon has a bigger following than Grand Archive personally. Never heard of that game before this video.
As a content creator of One piece card game from brazil i can say that The game is taking brazil out!!! But i'm enjoying Fab a lot for two reasons: here in brazil its easy to find and cheap!!
Sadly FaB is dead at all my local shops 😞 Stuck to purely online and friendlies
can anyone actually question the longevity of One Piece???
One of the most investable/collectable card games to be released recently. I think people recognize that value. Most memorable characters and nostalgic factor. This will have a large player base regardless
The artwork of One Piece cards is top notch as well.
Please give it a digital version ;-;
Never trust FFG.
FFG now is not the same FFG it was 2 years ago. Ownership is different, leadership is different, the design teams are different, the OP teams are different and the media teams are different. I was very hesitant to buy into SWU but after learning this, and the quality of the game, I have no hesitation.
@@lightgames7474 hard pass for me. I loved them pre asmodee. Got my name in a few of their games and did podcasts but fool me three times and byyeee.
Rip The Game of Thrones card game o7
@DrMocktopus1 For sure. I'm holding out slim hope that with the expanded universe, and success of SWU, that they'll revisit that at some point.
@@lightgames7474I've been burned by FFG too many time to put any money into their games anymore, I hope it ends up sticking around though from what I hear the game's good.
DM i know you think Sorcery is a board game, and not a TCG, but i disagree and think it has a brighter future than everything on this list save for FAB and SWU.
To each their own, and I'm a fan of Sorcery as well! I just don't see it having the same impact from a gameplay perspective as a TCG in the space
Digimon TCG?? It literally plays just like One Piece (both are made by Bandai) and has a dedicated fan base as well as good sales numbers.
Ya, but I just amazed by One piece art work on the Card's ❤❤❤
grand archive seems to not be popular/supported as much in (most of?) EU, even though anime is popular, most anime TCG are not that popular though
Are we only talking new card games? cause if not Pokemon will probably stay top 1. This thing is a juggernaut and the kids still love it. Maybe One Piece has the potential to surpass it one day but I doubt it.
Marching towards the future of FaB takeover 💪
Bro optcg just two year coming and become dark horse of tcg.
@@HiDup_Di_InDonesia if you're referring to one piece, there is no way that that is the dark horse of TCGs. It is one of the top four in the world!
I love Flesh and Blood, but someday it will be sold.
Here's hoping it's 20 years from now
how about Digimon?
Alpha Clash?
I mentioned alpha clash briefly in the video, and I'm pretty neutral on Digimon ATM. It has continued to sell consistently but very rarely played at the LGS's is in my area
@@DMArmada how's your personal review on Alpha Clash?
Alpha Clash TCG is so huge in the Philippines!
Any sorcery fans out there??
I'm a hater. Does that count?
I'm in a bubble with the sorcery fans so mind telling me why you hate it?
@@MrRayRockstar I was originally not that interested in sorcery but once I started collecting and even playing I’ve been absolutely hooked like no other tcg so far! It’s all personal preference! But I do like the way the company is being run also which is reassuring for its future (hopefully!)
@@udoaver9726 only 12 more weeks until AL my friend!
Yes, Grand Archive is just the best truly all-round TCG in all aspects, compared with all the other TCG`s, go figure..
Altered TCG!
I think the biggest turn off from this list, altough all amazing games and i totally agree with your view on them (specially flesh and blood), is about mainly One piece. OPTCG biggest problem is the lack of supplies, specially in my country, since jp cards are banned in locals and regionals and english packs are so hard to find now
Got my eye on the new TCG Neverrift on Kickstarter
I want to like FaB. But the learning curve is steep, deckbuilding is extremely limited (pick a hero and the deck practically builds itself), and it's getting way too expensive to build competitive decks.
Flesh and blood is the top TCG out there
Star Wars unlimited is #2
completely disagree with Grand Achieve, the player base will ruin this game. I play it competitively and the prices that people try to get are absolutely delusional. And I will agree even though i hate the show, but one piece seems to be really holding strong. Flesh and blood is a solid game but just lacks something a little more immersive.
Agree prices are pretty ludicrous at the moment. I think there's a lot of people out there sitting and hoarding cards and putting out singles.
That might just be a symptom of being a less mature market but hopefully that improves in the future.
One of the saddest games that actually got ripped off mostly by Lorcana and then altered is Keyforge. That game should have stuck!
Sad to not see final fantasy tcg on here :(
The GA world champ Glenny_Boi
One piece is really good but it’s not played anywhere near me.
Same with Lorcana
And flesh and blood
Pokémon it is
Shout-out Meta Zoo lol
You're missing digimon there.
Sorcery??
Lorcana and One Piece wear their theme awfully
In my opinion non of these games will be there in 10 years from now. Especially Disney´s Lorcana and Grand Archive.
You must check Summoner Wars, it's not a TCG but it plays better than most of these games! very tactical duel card game in my opinion
bandai cant even handle a card game theyll drop the ball with OP eventually
Idk about Grand Archive. I don't see a lot of anything about it online and most of the LGS's near me have dropped it already.
And while they aren't likely to be the next Pokemon or MtG, I think Mythik TCG and Nostalgix are great smaller games to look into!
Less cinematic tráiler more Gameplay examples please
3 months is too long but 4 months isnt? I don’t understand.
I meant to say 3 months was too short 😅